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This week on Altered Geek, join Steve "Megatron" Phillips and TFG1Mike as they dive into the latest in geekdom! Get ready for rumors on The Social Network Part II in the works, early Ironheart reviews, and the shocking Simpsons Season 36 finale. Plus, we'll discuss Tom Cruise, Lilo & Stitch 2, and James Gunn's thoughts on Wonder Woman and The Batman II! TFG1Mike brings his Marvel vs. DC rant, including the Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy re-release and a deep dive into MCU Phases 4 and 5. Get Altered, Get Geeky, with the Altered Geeks!
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way. Anyhow, this week we have a rather large
amount of news articles that we can talk about.
Some of them to lesser degrees than others. Varying
between superheroes and other things. Yeah, there's
four main news articles. There's two YouTube
video things. And then there's the overall main
topics. Yeah, more so there's honorable mentions.
Yeah. With quick commentary. Yeah. Just that.
All right. Kicking it off. You pointed out. Does
this really need a sequel? Really? So my wife
and I have been going through this kick lately
of watching. based on a true story films I know
that not all of them are 100 % factual there's
you know a lot of a lot of dramatization aspects
added to the storylines of most of these what's
interesting is is we watch this one and I know
that parts of it were on point and then a lot
of it was just there for the drama yeah with
this because Even when the first movie was out,
I remember both of us going, oh, this is so overrated.
I don't really give a crap. I could care less.
I'm the CEO, bitch. Yeah. I didn't much care
for it. Yes, it was Mark Zuckerberg's story,
but I found, honestly, all of the different Steve
Jobs movies. To be more entertaining. I also
have to say this. Sorkin's stuff, while somewhat
interesting, I don't really like his filmmaking.
It's a specific style, I'll say that. It's a
very specific. I know he's been good in the newsroom.
a few good men and things like that the steve
jobs film i thought was crap uh studio 60 was
good yeah uh yeah the steve steve jobs film there
was a lot of liberties taken with that as well
like yeah there was a couple of key things that
actually happened but then a lot of it was just
bull um same thing with this like i didn't much
care for the first one my wife didn't either
like she's like yeah that's kind of interesting
you know and then we were like meh and then promptly
didn't care anymore she was more engaged by the
steve jobs films than this and honestly like
while while it's interesting to hear that he's
doing these social network too is it really necessary
like i i get we want the origin story for a lot
of these but i don't feel like we need their
entire life and rundown of like everything yeah
I mean, the thing with Aaron Sorkin is he's mainly
a Hollywood writer. He's not a director, so he
didn't... He wrote the story for a lot of the
stuff. That's the key here, is that he's a Hollywood
writer. Because the first, from 92 to 2015, all
of his films, he is not the director. He's the
writer. So a few good men, malice, American president,
Charlie Wilson's war, social network, money ball,
Steve jobs. He's not directing those films. He's
just writing them. Yeah. And, and even then,
like, that's what I'm getting at. It's like,
I don't care who directs it. Cause yeah, it's
not, it's not that it's the story. Yeah. Oh,
absolutely. And, and yeah, I mean, out of, out
of all of the stuff that he's, done i haven't
even finished the newsroom i got to like i don't
know the first five or six episodes of the first
season i liked what i saw of the newsroom out
of the movies that he's written for i liked a
few good men i liked the american president i
liked the social network it was okay i don't
I remember seeing Steve Jobs. I think I saw the
other one. I think Steve Jobs is not... Steve
Jobs is not the one with Ashton. Jobs is the
one with Ashton. Jobs is the one with Ashton.
Steve Jobs is the one with... With Michael Fassbender.
Yeah. And it's not a knock against the actors.
I mean, they did great for what they were given.
Fassbender actually looks like older Steve Jobs.
ashton looks like younger steve jobs yeah yeah
and so they do a really good job at playing the
character of you know in the person of steve
jobs and so those i did enjoy for different reasons
i enjoyed jobs more than steve jobs and then
of course i've seen pirates of silicon valley
of course you have which is which is much older
yes and it's got more of the microsoft and uh
apple starting yeah but this i mean and especially
reading what he wants to more or less wrap into
this into into the social network too yeah he's
because obviously the first one was the origins
of facebook he wants to follow it up with more
of a uh writing about facebook and its impact
on democracy and then the january 6th thing and
it's like god get out get out shut the fuck do
you we can move on i'm done yeah yeah i don't
even care yeah so that's that's i have zero interest
now like nope not even like uh -uh no no huge
difference in wanting to write a sequel to a
movie of an origin story and maybe tell how mr
zuckerberg continued on with his story of how
he caved to finally putting ads on facebook or
maybe he finally did something different than
he like maybe he sacrificed one of his morals
or something that he said he would never do with
facebook or maybe he it would have to be something
that in the first movie he said he would never
do that he eventually just buckled under the
pressure of having to do that something in order
to keep facebook alive or oh hell no yeah so
anyways we'll move on yeah i'm done with that
that's like I don't, why would anyone want to
see that? I don't know if they're going to specifically
touch on that specific date, but they're going
to definitely be very political with it. And
honestly, I'm looking for any escape from it.
Like we're living it. I don't like Star Trek
had this nice way of, of infiltrating it in,
in the story without like being in your face.
And it was more cerebral and made you kind of
go, Hmm, you know, like not. in your face with
it but they were they were like making you think
yeah and that was what i enjoyed about how star
trek pulled it off yeah that's the kind of story
we want in entertainment is we want to be able
to have the entertainment make us think about
certain things and not I definitely agree with
the ability to question either side. It doesn't
matter. I'm not getting critical. No, no, no.
Absolutely. I feel like you should be able to
have that conversation, yes. And I feel like
people should not be so far up the butt of either
side of it that they can't have a civil conversation.
That being said, there are things that both of
them do equally that are horrible at different
points of time. And honestly, having it in your
face constantly like between the news and social
media is why people are so charged and just can't
unwind and to have you know i would rather that
it was more of like that that thing that makes
you go hmm think about it thing rather than an
in your face like oh that's let's just rehash
this again yeah um when it's been in the news
for years now so i i would much rather just have
something that's just entertaining which is why
i pretty much stay away from any of these type
of things anymore and i watch old stuff unless
it's like you know like the new happy gilmore
2 that's going to be coming out and you know
some of the just things that are older and based
on a true story but they're you know it's it's
it's a segment of different point of time and
it's not necessarily like horrid yeah constantly
so yeah well this is why so for me this is why
i so again you know you can tell a story like
you take something like um i'm trying to think
what's the what's the um Not 16 blocks. I forget.
Double Jeopardy or Basic Instinct or insert whatever
old ass movie here. You take like Husband Murders
Wife or Wife Murders Husband. X number of whatever.
Nowadays for me, that kind of stuff or that kind
of whatever. true crime stuff i watch true crime
shows for that kind of stuff for the real like
for me movies need to be an escape uh you can
do the murder mystery suspense thing that's fine
but i don't need i i don't i try my best not
outside of marvel and stuff like that i try my
best not to do the political thriller thing because
I don't like politics in my entertainment most
of the time. Yes, I understand there's going
to always be politics in entertainment because
that's just the way the Hollywood writers write
things and everything else, but specifically
saying that you're going to potentially have
January... No. So anyway... Over in the Marvel
Cinematic Universe, we have Ironheart. And all
the reviews are swaying one way. Hey, look, I'm
just glad people like something in the Marvel
Cinematic Universe again, finally. I find it
funny that they say that it's got, you know.
cultural nuance millennial nostalgia and yada
yada yada but i don't i just i just don't care
now i i've been interested into in reading in
into some of the riri williams comics i have
not had a chance to check out any of the i've
known about the character for years now and i
just have never had a chance to check out her
character in the marvel comics universe Uh, but
I don't know. I need something in, and we're
going to get into this later when we talk about
phase four and phase five in the main discussion
of the podcast tonight, tonight, today, whenever
you find people listening to this, but I just.
Every trailer I see of this or every clip or
every snippet I see of this, I'm. interested
to find out what it's about so for me to see
people talking about it positively even though
i'm not going to remember about half of the stuff
that people have said at least i know people
are talking about it positively will make me
think at some point whenever i get to watching
ironheart that i know i'm at least going in looking
at it as oh this could be good See, I look at
it from the stance of like if it's got an average
tomato meter that it's high, I'm generally not
going to like it. It's got a 55 percent for average
popcorn meter, which is, you know, you're you're
every man more or less. Now, that being said,
you know, I also watched, you know, the National
Treasure Edge of History. And the critics gave
it a 38 percent and the audience gave it a 49.
And I have to agree it was crap because they
missed out on having the biggest one that they
could have in it, which was Nicolas Cage. Yes.
Now, that being said, I. I'm not a huge fan of
all of the Marvel television series. I don't
watch most of them. The only ones I cared to
watch. were the ones that were in the actual
Avengers films. And so like, did I like, I liked
Loki from the perspective of he was trying to
fix part of the multiverse, which was all jacked
up anyway, because of all the stuff they've been
doing. Right. And that's how he kind of comes
into play into the next two Avengers films. And
so in that regard, I find that one useful. Hawkeye.
That show was was interesting because I again,
I like the character. It's not my favorite character
of the group, but I do like the character. And
then, you know, then you had, you know, Scarlet
Witch, you know, show. And then you have the
the animated. You know, what if the rest of them,
you know. Even the Winter Soldier and Falcon
and the Winter Soldier, that one was okay, but
it was kind of, again, a miss. What If was generally
entertaining across the board. Hawkeye was entertaining
across the board. I have not enjoyed any of the
other Marvel shows. I've tried giving some of
them a chance. I tried watching She -Hulk. I
tried watching a few of the others. I just could
not. I watched them most of the way through.
I was like, okay, I'm done with the television
stuff. I'm just going to stick with the films.
Even then, a lot of the films have been a miss.
We'll get into that later. In this regard, I
just don't care. yeah i'm it's so for me with
marvel right now where i am is it's a wait and
see like for me with a lot of stuff right now
it's a wait and see because i've got so many
other things that i'm currently doing or so many
other things i'm currently not doing because
i'm so backed up because of my medical stuff
that's going on i'm okay folks but Fine, getting
into this. A couple months ago, something happened
with my right arm, which is my cerebral palsy
arm, where from the top of my shoulder to right
above my right elbow, I had nothing but constant
pain in my upper bicep, tricep, whatever area
this up here. And we did x -rays, we did this,
we did that. Did all kinds of stuff. And about,
well, by the time you find people who hear this,
it'll probably be the 4th of July weekend. Yay!
We're actually recording this Monday, June 30th,
2025. 30 years ago to the date of the release
in theaters of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers,
the movie. Talk about that later, too. That's
a good movie. That's right. We'll talk about
that later, too. So as of this date, as of the
sound of my voice, about a month and a half ago,
I hit my left elbow, which is my good arm on
the wall. Don't ask me how I hit. It's a balance
issue thing, and I have bad balance issues because
of the cerebral palsy. So you know how when you
hit your elbow and the pain is like at first,
it's like, oh, holy. I hit my elbow. What the
going on here and everything else? And that pain
lasts, let's say, 20, 30 minutes, whatever, maybe
less than that. And then, you know, two days
later, you forget about it. Well, my two days
later, my in between my middle finger and ring
finger from my ring finger out to my pinky and
down to my wrist, that whole side of my left
hand, even right now as I'm speaking. is constantly
numb like you sleep on your hand and your hand
goes numb and normally you can just rub your
hand and like you can shake your hand out and
it goes away it's that kind of numbness and tingliness
and the more i use like if i'm sitting here typing
if i'm sitting here writing or if i'm doing the
dishes or if i'm doing laundry the more i use
my left hand which is my good hand it's the only
hand i can freaking use the more I use it, the
more the numbness spreads to my middle finger,
my index finger and my thumb, and it spreads
to my whole hand. So again, as of this recording
today, I just got out of the doctor's office
to do an EMG test, which is basically them putting
a bunch of needles in my arm and hand and else
to do their tests. And I'm waiting on test results
to figure out what the hell's going on. And the
whole point of all of this is to say that I haven't
been keeping up on a lot of things and everything
else. So, yeah, it's just just just crazy. So
just trying to keep up with some of this stuff
lately is like I'm not really caring. I'm not
keeping up with Marvel as like I'm not so sharp.
With Marvel, as I used to be. And like you've
already said, and we will talk about later, it's
not like, and I've said this before, you name
your quote unquote 22nd or 23rd movie, whatever
it is, the end game. In my mind, that means it's
the end. That means you're wrapping up your story.
I understand you can make more movies and do
more stories in the future with different characters
and other characters. And that's all. fine but
you wrap up this x number of 15 years 16 you
know however the hell many years it was from
2008 to 2019 i'm not doing the math on that right
now but like i don't know everything after endgame
i was very skeptical at first i liked a lot of
it but i i don't know And as far as phase four
and five, like we said, we're going to do a deeper
discussion in a little bit here, folks on the
show, but I just don't pay attention as much
as I used to. And the only reason why we're even
talking about any of this now is because Ironheart
news came out and it's like, oh, it's coming
up. And oh, the reviews are, every review is
so positive. It's skewed to the positive. Finally.
Somebody's actually talking positive about something.
That's what we flippin' need in geekdom right
now. We need some flippin' positivity, dammit.
See, I used the flippin' and I used my other
thing for the dammit. You're lucky, because I've
been trying my best not to fluck off. And fluck
it up. I said fluck. I understand negativity
and bad things and horrible things happening.
I get it. If it bleeds, it leads. I get it in
news. Trust me, I understand that. We've been
covering news for 15 years, 16 years, whatever
it is. I get it. But the fact that these reviews
for this show... This six episode show. Six episodes.
You got to be kidding. I hate the Disney Plus
model. I really do. Oh, for sure. Give me something
I can sync. Look, I'm not asking for 22. I'm
not asking for 23. I'm not asking for the old
days of that kind of to give me 10. Give me 12.
Give me something. Six. Really? because i guarantee
you they're gonna give you six episodes and on
that sixth episode they're gonna leave it on
cliffhanger and if they don't get enough in the
ratings or if they don't get enough in the streaming
numbers they're gonna say well we didn't get
enough in the streaming numbers so iron heart
will never be seen again unless it's in some
random movie with groot because let's face it
groot is the grogu of the marvel universe sorry
not sorry there you go make a clip out of that
buddy Yeah. Oh God. But yeah, no, I mean, I'm
interested to see what it is, what, what happens
with that show when I, whenever I end up seeing
it, whether it's what, whatever, whenever. So
we'll, we'll see on the flip side of, of the
superheroes. We have DC, uh, where James Gunn
says that, um, That Adria Arona or Arjona as
Wonder Woman, she'd be a great Wonder Woman.
I've never heard of this person. I would have
to click on her name to see what her actual credits
actually are. Because literally this is the first
time I've ever heard her name from anywhere.
American Guatemalan actress known for a lot of
roles. Screen debut in 2012. She was in the movie
Hitman. Okay. She was in Andor. She was in Morbius.
She was in Six Underground. She was in Father
of the Bride in 2022. Yeah. Oh, she was. Okay.
She was a million. Okay. She was a million. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. She was in Book of Boba Fett. Yeah.
Okay. Person of interest. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Cool. Cool. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. Okay. Sure.
She's dating Jason Momoa. Nobody gives a rip.
No, no, no. I find that interesting because he's
Aquaman. well he's aquaman but he's playing lobo
yeah that's true in the new dc universe with
james gunn yep so yeah it might come with the
territory yeah so but yeah i mean i'm i'm fine
with it i think it'll be interesting to see i'm
not so like dead set on who you know oh no it
can only be this person who plays this no no
no not at all um yeah I mean, I think it's great
when, you know, you can't have a legacy actor
continue to play the character, you know, such
as like, um, Obi -Wan Kenobi and, you know, stuff
like that, uh, from like Ewan McGregor and, you
know, where, where you have other series that
kind of continue on with same people. But I get
it. Like every time somebody new gets in here,
they're going to reboot it. And. Two to three
films is about the max. We see somebody play
a superhero in most cases. Yep. Marvel, notwithstanding,
but true. Even the Sony stuff like you were good
for two or three films and then it was like,
all right, bye bye. So I'm I'm fine with this.
Like, it'll be interesting to see somebody else
take on the role. And. I've seen a lot of different.
takes on like i remember years ago when they
they had this like casting of who should play
who and the guy that played the lone ranger was
like on tap to possibly play batman and then
yep um yeah so i mean i i'm i'm fine with it
i think it'll be interesting either way yeah
absolutely uh yeah very fun very fun And then,
folks, we go to animation. Oh, boy. Marge Simpson
dies tonight. Well, sort of. Yeah. They killed
her off in the season 36 finale. Yeah. In a flash
forward scene. Yeah. But yeah. It shows Bart
and Lisa grow apart after they stop watching
Itchy and Scratchy show. And then Marge thinks
that they'll both become estranged and 35 years
later she dies. And then it's funny because Homer
looks the same age. Everybody else is old. But
it says Homer is taken out of retirement home
by the senior protective services. But yeah.
I don't know. I haven't watched the show in ages,
so it's kind of funny. I haven't either. I don't
like if they do a specific spoof. I might watch
a clip on YouTube, but I haven't actively watched
The Simpsons since 1993. I think it stopped being
relevant like 10, 15 years ago. I guess. Yeah.
I don't know. It's interesting. What I find funny
is when did this episode air? It aired like a
week ago. Not even that. All the posts were coming
out on June 25th. and we're sitting at june 30th
here so it's it's been almost a week it will
have been a week by the time you hear this episode
yeah okay because uh the phineas and ferb season
the phineas and ferb season five thing kind of
did the same thing where they their mom disappeared
too and it made it look like that one of their
inventions killed her So they did kind of the
same thing, which I find ironic considering Disney
owns both Phineas and Ferb and The Simpsons.
It's like, wait a minute, guys. Something wrong
here. There are no new ideas, man. No new ideas.
What would that be? I mean, yeah. i i've not
been a fan of a lot of the tv stuff that marvel
or not marvel disney or marvel whomever has been
putting out like it's all been kind of yeah the
original air date was may 18th so we are way
safer for spoilers here I just find it funny
that it got revealed later. Yeah. Like a month
later. Usually it tells you how much people it
somebody must have been like, hey, I think I'll
watch the Simpsons finale again. And then they're
like, oh, crap. Oh, crap. Yeah. It's crazy. Simply
crazy. All right. Yeah. Moving on. I think we
have a couple of other. yes minor clip it's here
yep so the minor clip it's are the tom cruise
youtube video thing where he lip syncs to the
weekends can't feel my face song have you watched
this i did it's entertaining yeah because it's
tom cruise and it fits with with his 80s 90s
aesthetic yeah yeah yeah what i think is hilarious
is jimmy jimmy uh fallon's reaction to because
like when the song starts he has his fingers
up and like his two fingers are between jimmy's
face and jimmy just cracking up i just find this
absolutely this is one of those clips that does
not need to die like i'm not gonna bring it up
all the time but like it just is one of those
things where people don't need to forget this
because it's just so funny And then the other
one, it's just a simple little thing. It's just
them announcing that Lilo and Stitch 2 is in
development and it's Stitch going around the
studio in a car where I think it did say too
fast at first. I was like, wait a minute. Is
he going to be in Fast X Part 2? I really hope
they don't call it Fast X Part 2. For God's sake,
don't do that. Just call it Fast 11, damn it.
You know they're bringing back Paul Walker. Yes,
I was going to mention that. They're going to
use his brothers again, probably. They're going
to use mocap on his brothers and bring him back
one more time. I just saw the clip or the news
that Vin wants him back. yep which honestly i
think is i think it's like why just let it go
let it go dom come on man like i get it because
they started the franchise together but paul's
been dead for a decade now longer did he die
because i know he died around the same time i
died Which is 10 years ago, this past May. No,
oh no, he died two years before my son died.
He died in 2013. So, like, I don't know, dude.
I... I don't know. I just don't know anymore.
Nothing. yeah i stopped watching that like after
the second film i would it's not a knock against
it it really is i just i just lost interest it
was more so that and then like i know three like
was technically like a prequel or some sort or
something and then it wasn't really a prequel
three was out of so if you look at it in was
it like david s pumpkins it was its own thing
yeah kind of because because sean boswell or
sean beeswell or whatever the sean character
i don't know because honestly i i have seen tokyo
drift exactly once in my lifetime and unfortunately
here pretty soon i'm going to have to see it
twice in my lifetime so here so well it's my
own fault but um i know yeah so so here's the
thing with tokyo drift originally As far as I
know, Tokyo Drift was its own thing. We just
assumed that they weren't going to do any more
after Tokyo Drift, etc., etc., etc. They came
back with a vengeance in 2009. Tokyo Drift was
2006. They came back with a vengeance with Fast
and Furious 4 in 2009. 2011 was Fast 5. Yada,
yada, yada. Fast 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. Well, they
haven't done 11 yet, but basically the events
of Video Drift fit in between Fast 6 and Fast
and Furious 7. And the reason why they do that
is because at the end of Fast 6, you see Deckard
Shaw, who is Owen Shaw's old brother. Deckard
is played by Statham. You see him in Tokyo, quote
-unquote, killing Han, who is the character that
was in Tokyo Drift. I say, quote -unquote, killing
Han because he's not really dead. Spoiler, not
spoiler, because I know you don't care. So that's
how they made it fit into the franchise story.
So technically, the franchise goes 1, 2, 4, 5,
6, 3, 7, 8, 9, Hobbs & Shaw, 10, and then 11,
and hopefully they'll really actually be done
at 11, because that's what Diesel has said, 11
is the last film. Hopefully. Speaking of films
and stuff, and... Marvel vs. DC and everything
else. So we have... We have news of Marvel doing
their own film re -release. Because Marvel actually
loves their fans, and they want their fans to
be, you know, happy. And they want their fans
to actually see their movies in theaters. Fucking
DC. Release the Schumacher cut, you bastards.
They will after they get bought. Who's buying
DC? No, I'm just saying, like, Warner Brothers.
Warner Brothers here. Yeah, that's true. Okay,
so Sam Raimi's Spider -Man trilogy returns to
theaters. The success of Spider -Man in 2002
helped launch the modern era of superhero films.
All eight live -action Spider -Man movies returned
to theaters last spring, much to the delight
of fans. The re -releases racked up millions
of dollars in ticket revenue. Yada, yada, yada,
yada, yada. It does not say when. that the three
will release, but they are re -releasing in theaters
this fall. So that's the big news there, which
is just like Marvel to actually care about their
fans, unlike DC, who doesn't give two shits about
their Batman Forever fan people. What's it going
to hurt you, DC? It's actually going to make
you money if you release it. You know that old
saying, if we build it, they will come. If you
re -release it, they're going to buy the fucking
tickets, you idiots. Well, movie theaters are
kind of on their way out anyway. Yeah, I know.
But the same token, people were like, give us
the Snyder Cut. And DC was like, yeah, nice,
nice, nice try, guys. All right. So here we go.
Marvel phases four and five. I'm going to run
down the quick list for films and TV shows for
each phase. I think we should also mention which
ones we watched and which ones we enjoyed after
you list them. Well, yes, we will. That's that's
the point. But I just want to get the list out
first. We'll list movies first, and then we'll
say our favorites and least favorites, and then
ones we haven't even watched, because there are
some that I haven't even watched. And then we'll,
yeah, so. All right, phase four. This is phase
four, correct? Yes, phase four. Make sure I hit
the right link. Do your job, Mike. Do your job.
All right, in phase four. Ehad, Black Widow,
Shang -Chi, The Eternals, Spider -Man No Way
Home, Doctor Strange and the Monsters of Madness,
Thor Love and Thunder, and Black Burp and Wakanda
Forever. So that's Black Widow, Shang -Chi, Eternals,
No Way Home, Doctor Strange 2, Thor Love and
Thunder, and Black Panther and Wakanda Forever.
What do you got? So. I watched. I watched Black
Widow, Spider -Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange,
Thor out of these grouping, Shang -Chi and Eternals.
I just didn't care. Again, third tier characters.
Black Panther. I was interested. when we had
the original actor yeah after that point i just
didn't care anymore um not that that one would
have been bad i i probably would have cared about
that just because like they were some of the
stronger parts of the infinity war and end game
um just from part of the roles that they played
But out of these that that I've seen, the only
like Black Widow was really good. Gave us kind
of a glimpse of, you know, during the blip. Yeah.
And then or at least pre blip because. Romanoff's
sister, you know, Yelena disappeared during the
blip. Yep. So this was pre blip. But anyways,
I found that film to be really entertaining,
really good. And then Spider -Man No Way Home
was like. My absolute favorite of that year.
Of that of that phase was because. We got. We
got all of the Spider -Man. Yep. So that that
was like, OK, we're paying tribute to all of
the previous Spider -Man. Yeah, pretty much so.
And my favorite was always like the Tobey Maguire
Spider -Man. So that that in essence and then
the William Dafoe Green Goblin and, you know,
Otto Octavius. And so I really enjoyed it. And
that that for me was like the icing on the cake
for for my favorite of that that phase. Doctor
Strange was weird. And I liked some of the fan
moments, especially with the parallel universe
and, you know, the Reed Richards and Professor
X and things like that. But again, they just
love to kill Patrick Stewart as Professor X because
it happened in X3. It happened in Multiverse
of Madness and it happened in Logan. So we were
three for three at that point. Or Patrick. Thor
would have been OK, but it was just too goofy.
more than ragnarok ragnarok fit this was just
like okay we're stretching it yeah so but yeah
those those out of those films like spider -man
no way home and black widow were my favorite
yep i have only seen black widow and spider -man
no way home i don't care about any of the other
films in phase four i black panther wakanda forever
i might watch just to see how that story kind
of concludes kind of thing but i don't feel like
it's something i absolutely have to watch i was
done with thor after the dark world i did watch
ragnarok i thought ragnarok was the best out
of the thor movies i thought if they did another
thor movie it would only go downhill from here
and from what you've said and from what others
have told me I was right. I'm not judging it
based on something I have not seen. I'm just
judging it based on your opinion and what others
have told me. So I'm not making my own assumptions
on something I have not watched. I'm just going
off of what others have said. But I had zero
interest in Shang -Chi. I had zero interest in
the Eternals. I don't know. I just had no interest
in either of those. Black Widow I really enjoyed.
Black Widow I wish had come out so much earlier
than when it did as far as the continuity of
the film itself. But it is what it is. So that's
the Phase 4 films. Here is the Phase 4 television
series. We have... WandaVision, Falcon and the
Winter Soldier, Loki Season 1. These are all
Season 1. What If, Hawkeye, Moon Knight, Ms.
Marvel, and She -Hulk, Attorney at Law. So, out
of this batch, I... I watched WandaVision. I
watched Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Loki,
What If, Hawkeye, and She -Hulk. Ms. Marvel didn't
interest me whatsoever. Moon Knight really didn't
interest me whatsoever. I enjoyed WandaVision
for what it was. Didn't love it, but it was better
than what they did to her character in Doctor
Strange. Yeah. and the multiverse of madness
the falcon and the winter soldier was okay had
they just kept it to um to falcon and the winter
soldier yeah instead of all the other people
that they added uh that later became a part of
phase five um loki was a slow burn season one
i kind of was like okay like it got better. And
then when they, they brought in Kane, uh, I think,
I think that's his name. Kang. Kang. Yeah. I,
you can tell how much I cared. Um, I, I didn't
care for his character whatsoever. Didn't like
the actor. Didn't like portrayal, whatever. I
just didn't care for it. Uh, what if I enjoyed
Hawkeye? Enjoyed she Hulk. I tried. It was trying
way too hard. And so in that, I didn't care for
it either. So out of this batch, the only ones
I really enjoyed were What If and Hawkeye. I
liked WandaVision for the psychology of it all,
to see what she was dealing with. But in general,
I'm not... The... The easiest way I can equate
this is you take Lord of the Rings and put it
on one side and you take Star Wars and put it
on the other side. I'm going to choose Star Wars
every day. So you take something like WandaVision
and Falcon and Winter. I'm going to pick Falcon
and Winter every day of the week. Or even if
you want to take WandaVision and put Hawkeye
on the other side of that, I'll take Hawkeye
every day of the week. I didn't dislike WandaVision.
I enjoyed it for what it was, but it just wasn't...
I don't know. I'm not... I'm more Batman than
Jason the Magic Boy, his adversary that he goes
up against sometimes. So there's that. Falcon
and winter. I really enjoyed what I really enjoyed
about Falcon and winter was the two of them constantly
arguing like a bitter old married couple. Like
those counseling sessions in that show, the therapist
sessions between the two of them. Oh, good fun
right there. I did not watch Loki because I don't
care about Loki as a character. I never have
cared about Loki as a character. The less Loki
I see in the Marvel Universe, the better. I was
done with Loki after the very first Avengers
movie. If Loki just fell into the Earth's core
and died, I would not care. What If is amazing.
All three seasons, even though I haven't watched
the third season yet, but the first two seasons
of What If, simply amazing. I can't wait to finally
get a chance to watch the third season. Hawkeye
is great. Absolutely love Hawkeye. Kate is hilarious.
Kate and Clint together are even more hilarious.
Absolutely love that. I'm not a Moon Knight or
Ms. Marvel fan. I just didn't get into those
shows. And I am actually waiting to watch She
-Hulk with the Chaos Queen. So, yeah, I'll have
to reserve judgment on She -Hulk. So that is
Marvel Phase 4. All right, getting into Phase
5 with the film. I forgot that Phase 5 actually
started with Ant -Man. And the wasp, Quantumania.
Shoot me now. Don't wait till you get home. Shoot
me now. I stopped watching the Ant -Man movies
after the Ant -Man. I could give two craps less
about Ant -Man and his Quantumania of whatever.
So I didn't watch that one. I'll just come out
and say it. The only movie I've seen in phase
five so far is Deadpool. I kind of had interest
in watching them. I don't know if I'll watch
the models. I know I want to watch Brave New
World and I know I want to watch Thunderbolts.
So that's my experience with the phase five films
to this point. So. I have watched Ant -Man 3.
I had started Guardians 3. And then I watched
Deadpool and Wolverine. And then I've had no
interest in the rest. The Marvels, I didn't like
Captain Marvel anyway. And I just honestly didn't
like. The premise, so I just didn't care. And.
Kind of the same thing with like Guardians of
the Galaxy three, I just lost interest. Captain
America Brave New World with the amount of reshoots
that we'd heard that they'd had and. I just it's
just not the same. But it's nothing against it's
nothing against Falcon. It's, it's, it's nothing
against the actor. Cause like, I, I think he
would do fine. I just think that there was a
lot of. Okay. But the reshoots and all of that
and whatever else that they had to do, we don't
know what that original movie was going to be.
So whatever reshoots they had to do, whatever
movie they ended up giving us, that's the movie
we got. It's kind of, I know I, it's not what
I'm. Okay, so what are you trying to say? It's
not what I'm beating it up for. I just think
that it... Yes, they brought in things like adamantium
and, you know, other things to kind of bring
aspects of the pre -MCU parts of this into the
MCU. Yeah. But... I think that they're I mean,
yeah, they're setting him up, you know, Wilson,
obviously, to become Captain America here, like
officially outside of Falcon and the Winter Soldier
and and to kind of tee up the multiversal battle.
Yeah, but I just I don't know. I just it didn't.
The trailers didn't do it any favors. In my opinion.
And then Thunderbolts, I just didn't care to
have one. Then they got the asterisk on there
because they're like, oh, the new Avengers. Yeah.
And I know it takes place after the Captain America
Brave New World. Yeah. I. I don't. I don't love
the aspect of them being the new Avengers. Well,
OK, so the and it kind of rubbed me wrong that
it's more like more like Suicide Squad. So for
me, in essence, yeah, in essence, you're right,
because that's kind of what it is. But here's
the thing. I care more about Yelena. And Red
Guardian. than any single member on the Suicide
Squad ever. I've never cared, never cared about
any of the members on the Suicide Squad. Yeah,
you got Deadshot in there. Yeah, you got King
Shark in there. Yeah, you got, who's the other
guy? Captain Boomerang. You've got Captain Cold
sometimes. Captain Cold, maybe. I've cared about
him a couple. Let me get Harley Quinn. Yeah,
you got Harley. Okay, sure. A stand -in for Yelena.
Sure, fine, whatever. Vice versa, if you really
want to say. But, like, I don't know, man. And
I think for me, the biggest thing, and I don't
have my phone with me. I'll have to. They use
the song in the trailers by some band. And I'll
have to figure it out later. And it just kind
of... Those trailers where she's just letting
go and just diving off that building. That swan
dive off the building. Just, ugh. It just sunk
me in to wanting to watch that damn movie. It
really did. And I'll tell you all now, the single
reason why I am not actively paying attention
to the films directly is because At some point,
probably next year, Studio 2009 is going to go
through the whole cinematic universe from the
beginning. Films and shows in story order. It's
going to be the big thing for Studio 2009, 2026.
i don't know who's gonna be on it with me and
it can be rotating because i know not everybody
would be welcome to do rotating because like
there's some of these yeah no i'm i how long
you know me like i would make you watch everything
you gotta be kidding me come on dude no i that's
why i said it's going to be rotating because
i know not everyone likes but my thing is i want
to explore it all So for me, it has to be everything.
For everybody else, you pick and choose what
you want. And we go from there. But I've been
thinking about this for years. Because we tried
doing this years ago when they first started.
I remember on MWire. We tried doing Iron Man
1, 2, 3. We did Avengers. We did this. We did
that. yada yada yada yada yada we did batman
begins dark knight and dark knight rises and
here we are 20 freaking years later getting ready
to do one podcast in a couple of weeks talking
about the 20th anniversary and we're going to
talk about all three films because 20th anniversary
of batman begins is this year i'm sure the actual
date has already passed but 2025 2005 It is the
year 2005. Don't zipper it in me. I'll do what
I want. I was putting something in my backpack.
Anyways, yeah, I mean, as far as the films are
concerned, there's a lot that I don't care for
in the later, you know, phase four and five.
Yeah. And then Phase 5 TV shows. Make sure. Yep.
Phase 5. Series. Phase 5 TV series include. Sorry
to cut you off. Nope. Secret Invasion, Loki,
What If, Seasons 2 and 3, Echo, Season 1, Agatha
All Along, Season 1, Your Friendly Neighbor,
Spider -Man, Daredevil, Born Again, and Ironheart.
Ironheart. debuted today, actually. Well, by
the time you people are hearing it, it debuted
July 1st. You need that list again? No, no. I
watched Secret Invasion. I did not enjoy it,
especially what they kind of I enjoyed part of
it. Like the very end. But I didn't like how
they kind of ruined Nick Fury. Yeah. Otherwise,
it was decent. Loki season two was pretty good.
What if season two and three? Great. Ended it
on a pretty good note. Echo didn't care. Agatha
all along really didn't care. The friendly neighborhood
Spider -Man kind of irrelevant to. You know,
I just didn't care. Daredevil. I know a lot of
people love that, especially the fact that they
brought him back from the the old ABC cinema
or, you know, ABC Universe or Netflix or whatever.
Yep. And then and then there's Ironheart, which
I don't care. But. And Daredevil's already kind
of shown up in. Spider -Man. yeah no way home
and uh so i mean he's he's in the mcu uh the
other ones like i just none of them i really
felt resonated with me like so honestly out of
this group it'd be loki and what if yeah like
i i could go without the rest of them and not
care because in the grand scheme of things i
don't feel like a lot of these outside of like
daredevil and loki are really going to play any
role in what's coming down the pipe well i thought
echo was going to because that's a part of the
daredevil world um but uh yeah i secret invasion
i thought was going to be better because it was
nick fury and it was based on the whole thing
and i thought it was going to lead to have some
sort of lead up to secret war What if season
two I've seen? I loved it. I need to see season
three. I'm sure I'm going to love it, but I love
the what if animated series. And yeah, the rest
of it, I have not seen any of it yet. I want
to see Friendly Neighborhood Spider -Man. I think
that's going to be really cool. So, yeah. The
only thing I probably will not watch, obviously,
is Loki. and agatha because i just don't care
loki is the only one that i could see making
sense from the multiversal standpoint right it
also in order to fully understand deadpool and
wolverine i feel like you have to have watched
loki to fully understand what they're doing with
the multiverse crap Because a lot of the characters
from the TBA, it's all relative and kind of ties
over. The Kang the Conqueror stuff, it ends up
being irrelevant because he wrote himself out
by, you know, getting fired. He got fired. He
got fired. But no, I mean. They and they kind
of. By the end of season two of Loki, like they
already knew they were firing him and he was
already gone, and so Loki essentially takes on
the mantle. And that's he's the one holding the
universe together. So he becomes like goes from
like kind of villain to like anti hero to hero.
Yeah. So it's a redemption arc for Loki. And
so in that manner, I feel like they kind of redeemed
him, but it was in a tasteful manner that he.
The struggle he has to go through to get there,
I feel like it was earned. And when he gets to
see Thor again and some of the others, like he'll
have a deeper appreciation for the Avengers.
So it may actually be him plucking. alternate
versions of the avengers that are dead to fight
doom i guess i don't know i could i could see
this i could see him being more important in
the the final unraveling of the the multiverse
right now he's kind of sitting on his tree throne
you know that he's and he's kind of like the
Madam Web of the universe, like observing things
from the outside. I mean, when I say Madam Web,
I mean from like the 90s. I know, I know what
you're talking about, but no. So I feel like
that one's more deserved. The rest of them, I
don't care. Yeah, I don't know. It's going to
be interesting to see where it goes. That's all
I know. So that's all I got. Oh, did you see
the other tirade? What? Oh, wait a minute. What
did I miss? You missed something and it came
out. It has nothing to do with the Marvel Cinematic
Universe. This is this is just a. tangent that
we can we can touch on in the future on all things
transformers oh no they're discussing bringing
michael bay back oh yes there is that too to
the franchise and it's funny because even comicbook
.com goes the transformers franchise is dead
if michael bay returns yes yes yes it says if
michael bay returns and the transformers movies
truly are dead and buried uh Because honestly,
I was done with it. They're even saying returning
to the old is a sign of creative stagnation.
I think Transformers 1 got a bad rap. It got
a horrible rap because of poor marketing. And
they're like, oh, well, we want to see explosions.
There were plenty of explosions. Where were you?
Yeah, where were you? It was well written. The
animation was good. You could clearly hear them.
You could clearly see them. Yeah, it, it didn't
need to be like, we don't need a crossover. Like
even they even have an article saying transformers
and GI Joe don't need a crossover. Yep. Nope.
Uh, the, um, what was the third or something
else with that? Oh, these people now having to.
Okay. So we've always said transform 2007, right?
we've never okay these people now are using vernacular
transformers one 2007 and i'm sitting here thinking
stop that don't do that just say transformers
2007 transformers one is from when did it come
out 2024 whatever the hell like don't try to
confuse people with the vernacular people stop
it I remember what the other thing is. Happy
anniversary. Mighty Morphin Power is the movie
of the year today. Just finished watching it
before we recorded the podcast. Oh, God. That
movie. So good. That, okay. That's a movie that,
that's a movie that I don't think is good today.
Because if you... Whether it's effects or whatever,
but specifically runtime. That movie's runtime
is... Where the hell's the runtime? Hello? How
long is your movie, sir? How long is your movie,
ma 'am? Is it down here? Where is the damn...
Seriously, I just looked. We don't know. Oh,
for... Hold on. It pulled up the stu... I know
I put in the movie after I hit... There. It is...
It comes in at 96 minutes. So it's an hour and
a half plus six minutes. Okay? Mm -hmm. I watched
up until when they got the great power. And then
I just kind of started doing stuff around the
apartment for the last... Because by the time
they get the power and they go back to Angel
Grove for the final fight, it's the final fight.
I know that final fight like the back of my hand.
Like, you know, they destroy one of the ectomorphicons
and... And then Ooze does something stupid and
he makes himself grow and get into the other
ectomorphicon and they fly into space and they
use Titan's comet or Orion's comet or whatever
comet to blow him up. Giant Ooze man go boom
and they save the day and we get Fred Campbell,
the Gold Ranger. Fred Campbell. Get off my one.
But no, the point is, is that 1995, June 30th,
1995, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, the movie
released the theaters. I was there and it was
awesome. And I missed Jason David Frank immensely.
And I wish he was here to celebrate the anniversary.
And obviously we know he can't be here to do
that. I'm glad all the other actors are here
now with us and everything else. That movie has
a perfect beginning, middle, and end. There are
no wasted moments. There are a few comedy moments
I could do without. I mean, I roll my eyes at,
what's the character's name? Mordant. which is
the the second alien that's that's with uh uh
goldar he's kind of like yeah that one was weird
because like he didn't really exist anywhere
else yeah no he doesn't and he's kind of like
the squat and babu version of me um because they
didn't bring in squat and babu um but yeah so
yeah But no, I mean, you don't have too much
bulk and skull in this. I mean, you got them
doing the whole skydive thing, and you got them
doing the whole thing with the foreman when they
land. But other than that, no, I really dig this
movie. It's so fun. It's just really fun. I enjoy
it. Yeah, absolutely. So happy 30th, Mighty Morphin
Power Rangers. So I think with that, I think
that's all we have on this episode. Yup, I see
it. That's all she wrote. Yup. Yup. So thank
you as always for listening to Altered Geek.
I've been your host, Steve Megatron with TFG1
Mike. Be sure to check out As we mentioned before,
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