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Digital vs. Physical Media and Actor Digital Resurrection

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About this Episode

Steve and Mike discuss the ongoing debate between digital streaming and physical media ownership, examining Netflix's download feature, their experiences trading DVDs for digital collections, and the pros and cons of each approach. They also tackle the moral implications of digitally resurrecting deceased actors for film roles, sparked by Carrie Fisher's passing and the use of digital recreations in Rogue One and Tarkin appearances.

You're tuned in to Steve Megatron on Altered

Geek. Hello and welcome to Altered Geek. I'm

your host Steve Megatron Phillips and in this

episode with me is... Dave John Mike. Hello,

welcome back from the great west. Yes. The great

deep west. I will not be going west, young man.

From the great Adam West. Oh, hell no. No, no,

no, no. Were you in Mayor West's town? No, not

at all. Yeah, I don't think Adam West lived in

Hemet, California. I was a little north of San

Diego, but a hell of a lot south of L .A. So

it was kind of like in the middle there. And

being out there, it was great. It was fun. I

had fun with my friends, Doug and Alicia. The

rest of it, it's... It's a blur. Yeah. It didn't

happen. It's not in continuity. Yeah, John Machida

Jr. basically sped past me multiple, multiple

times, taking me into a completely alternate

timeline. But no, it was fun out there. It was

an interesting thing. It was interesting actually

finally getting to see part of California because

we all see California on TV and movies. That's

the polish, the glitz and glam of California.

You know, so, but the real thing is not actually

that half bad. I had, I normally don't eat Mexican

food because I'm just. You had carne asada fries.

Yes, yes. I saw Doug gloating about it. I got

Blanchard to try something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, okay, so any kind of food that is not.

your basic burger, basic hot dog, basic, you

know, pizza, whatever, any kind of food that

has more spices than I care to think about. That's

what I think of when I think of Mexican food

is it's, Oh, it's, it's, it's burn your ass,

hot, spicy kind of food. Um, and I was really,

really reluctant, but the carne asada fries,

basically what it is folks is it's French fries

with real carne asada steak, not dog food. from

taco bell uh and it's got uh guac and sour cream

mixed in and it's just this giant plate of awesomeness

i had that i had in and out burger after eating

in and out burger i will never eat at mcdonald's

for lunch ever again in and out burger is the

best basic simplest burger you could ever have

um but yeah no california was you know fun for

the most part and uh And yeah, I don't think

I'll be traveling again for another 18 years

of my life. So there's that. Awesome. So how

was your Christmas vacation? It wasn't like the

movie. No, I mean, it was pretty decent. I mean,

we went and visited houses. We went and saw family.

I don't know, just a lot of stuff running around

doing as a family. And then kids got a decent

chunk of toys. We kind of didn't really, I mean,

we didn't really do gifts for each other, Mary

and I, because she got a blender that's, like,

expensive. She got it, like, heavily discounted

because of the Christmas time. Right. With massive

coupons and just because she's this, like. extremely

difficult um to buy for well it's not even to

buy for it's the fact that she's a very price

conscious shopper um so she kind of pays attention

to what she's getting um so in that that regard

um you know it wasn't it wasn't really that that

bad um in a sense so um so yeah then i treated

in a bunch of stuff yes and got uh i got myself

you got a cat yeah yeah i did not get myself

a cat um i got myself a uh no she sat on my headphone

uh because these new headphones have the uh the

volume thing on the cord instead of on the headset

like my old pair which i miss um she sits on

it all the time while i'm listening to stuff

for work so it it does this but um we uh we traded

in a bunch of our dvds and our nintendo we and

i bought myself that 27 inch monitor so um i

like it um i also have my 21 inch next to it

um which is again it's a flat panel but it's

like a sony it's it's a high -end sony but it's

still squared it's not rectangular and my rectangular

one the 27 inch is an asus and it plugs in hdmi

and it's got this little speaker bar at the bottom

and the black around the edges is like so thin

that if i were to get a second screen of the

same kind it would be like almost um I could

almost put them side by side and it would look

very transitional. It would be awesome if I had

the second one so that I could do it with gaming.

Because then I could have some really surround

visuals. Absolutely. But there's a lot of settings

on this monitor and I really like it. It's got

a reading mode, a dark mode, a theater mode,

a standard mode, a scenery mode. gaming mode

um so i turned on gaming when i'm gonna play

and uh the first time i played battlefield one

with this thing i was like i had to take 10 steps

back because like i was blinded with the amount

of like stuff in my face um and then i got yelled

at over my phone because i was talking way too

loud because i had my microphone sitting on my

desk and i'm sitting like three feet away from

my desk playing my game because like the screen

was so vivid I will tell you my sniping game

has gotten a lot better that's good because I

can see the people now I can see the little because

like there's like a little flashlight effect

when people are like zooming in so that's how

people are usually destroying me so I've been

doing pretty decent with that but um I'm pretty

proud of my no scopes but Just the Zoom click

fire. There's just no timing on it. So, yeah,

I did that. And then, yeah, just kind of I got

a little bit of a side gig and been working on

that and been working on my job. And school just

started up. Not thrilled about that. Last semester,

thankfully. But it's going to be a lot of projects.

Thankfully, I already have ideas for what I'm

going to do when we actually have to physically

go out into the world with cameras and interview

people for our projects in class because I have

plenty of people I know that work for a variety

of businesses or even people at my church. So

that will make my job a lot easier in trying

to find somebody to interview. Because that's

one thing I am terrified about. It's going and

talking to strangers. People I don't know. I

don't do well with that. Yeah, well, it's like

with us with the podcasting, we always would

have to test, have just a 20, 30 -minute conversation

with people before we start bringing them on

to host. Well, that's an entirely different beast.

I can talk to somebody I've never seen in real

life. skype yeah but when it comes to meeting

somebody in real life yeah i am extremely like

introverted i do not talk well i um i i put on

a front the best i can like today we in class

we had to stand in front of everybody and we

had to interview and it was kind of a novel way

that my teacher did this um he gave everybody

playing cards you know like uh like the joker

yeah jack ace joker you know uh but he only gave

two of each kind out so that you were intentionally

paired with one person um and he gave me one

and then the other guy got one and then so we

had to interview each other with questions that

were on the board and had to write down and then

we had to present it in front of the class um

I did okay with it because, one, he went first

with me. And then, two, I've, well, one, last

week, because I got baptized, I didn't realize

I had to say a speech in front of everybody beforehand.

And, of course, Mary can talk for hours in front

of everybody. It doesn't bother her in the slightest.

They were just like, I don't know, 50 people

in there. And granted, I know everybody that

was there. But it's still, it's standing in front

of people. Yeah, it's very daunting. So I've

got this method that I've discovered through

my classes. Is I look at the wall. I look past

everyone. And then I just kind of glance at different

corners of the wall. So it looks like I'm looking

at people. Yep. Which helped me. uh immensely

during the uh the process but i did it again

today but at the same time i could kind of stare

because there was only 12 people in the class

um and i really didn't care um so i i did it

fine today but the uh the aspect of talking to

somebody i that's i think that's partially why

i don't enjoy conventions as much as i thought

i would right is because i feel awkward walking

up to somebody and be like hey can i interview

you hey can i can i get a picture with you okay

and i blah blah blah because like i just i i'm

not that outgoing yeah like if i had somebody

that was outgoing with me and was like you know

approach it and said it then i would be fine

yeah but it's when you're flying solo it just

kind of sucks yeah absolutely so like No intention

of going to any conventions this year. See, if

I was up there, like if I was up there on vacation

visiting you guys, oh boy, we could so go to

conventions because I'd be like, dude, it's Rob

Paulson. Let's go talk to him. Like Rob Paulson,

I think I'd have no issue with. When it was Jason

Marsden, I felt extremely comfortable around

the dude. Granted, I've never talked to him on

the network. We should get him back at some point.

Yeah, I got to shoot Jason on some. And I'd be

interested in diving in on that, too. But it

was great talking to him at the convention that

I went to last year. And the other guys, it was

a little awkward and a little weird. I got yelled

at for talking to Fry, Voice of Fry. That would

be Billy West. at billy west i got in trouble

for um recording and taking a picture of billy

west um and that's by the convention person at

the the convention which it could have been something

that was stipulated before i don't know but like

i was i was i did it to uh uh the original voice

of alpha 5 too so um i didn't feel all that bad

they're just like you can't do that and i was

like oh okay and then i just stopped But, yeah,

so that was, you know, about the only time I

was a little bit outgoing. And I talked to people

that I was in the line with for, like, three

hours. But other than that, like, I'm not. So

I don't know where I got on that conversation.

So, yeah, I mean, that's just kind of a lot of

what's been going on. So, yeah, this is the second

episode to be released solely exclusively on

AlterGeek .com. Yes, it is. Yes. AlterGeek .com

needs some major improvements when it comes to

text. Yeah. Sorry, I have to. Cornhole. Hey,

you bust my balls on so many other things. I

figure I can bust your balls on the fact that

I can't read anything on the website. I'll fix

it at some point. I'll leave it like that just

to irritate you. So yeah, one of the questions

that was brought up, Brad Mull commented, new

site, new look, new feel. Is it a new year? Funny,

first up, he says, I got a Slurpee ad, which

would probably be Blog Talk Radio because that's

where the files are hosted. and i've been purposely

what's that talk rules yep and thankfully i've

i mean yeah you gotta listen to an ad or two

um during the uh the episode on their thing but

it at the same time helps me out by having the

ad play it also helps um me having the episode

directly linked to their file rather than on

the server because i get a more accurate read

on who's downloading the file or watching or

listening or whatever right So that's kind of

why it's that. But he said he finds one of the

topics interesting that I talked about on the

last episode of Netflix removing some of Mary's

favorite shows. He says, a few weeks ago, you

discussed selling DVDs and only having online

content. All the idea on paper sounds good. In

reality, it has issues. First up, it's always

assumed the internet will be there to stream.

He says, no, I don't want to sound like a doomsday

prepped. or anything like that, but small things

like a blackout, network outage, or hardware

failure can leave you high and dry without the

ability to stream films and shows. He says, I

recently lost power for three days. And he says,

oh, how much we rely on that Wi -Fi signal. He

says, so he's building a digital media collection.

He says he always wants a hard copy of that media

on hand if ever needed. He's not 100 % on how

the new Netflix feature works where you can download

a movie to watch later. He says, but I bet there's

an expiry period on anything downloaded. He says,

being in Australia, I won't see that feature

for another three years. The whole digital versus

physical media discussion is endless, but it's

interesting to look at both sides and see the

pros and cons. To which I have to agree. The

Netflix thing, I believe, I'm not 100 % sure

on how it works with that, but I know that you

get to download episodes of TV shows and movies

to watch later at a given point. But it's only

on specific shows and movies. It's not everything

that's in their library. It's only specific shows.

And I want to say that it might be just Netflix

exclusive stuff. I don't know that for certain

though. I haven't seen the download option though

on a lot of stuff. And I might pull that up on

my phone just to see if I have it still installed.

If it gives me that option on anything. But for

me, I like having physical copies of my stuff.

Same token, I don't really want... I don't really

want the physical copy because how often do I

actually... watch them yeah that was my biggest

thing you know 2008 2009 when we first started

podcasting almost you know nine ten years ago

now or more uh or a little bit less but whatever

i had and i've got pictures of this i might actually

have you throw one of these pictures in the post

um i had a whole wall of tv shows on dvd movies

everything else i would go to that wall and i'd

be like i don't want to watch that I don't want

to watch that. I haven't seen that in a while,

but I'm not in the mood. And it's like, why do

I have these? Like, seriously, why do I have

them? Other than they look nice. on the shelf

really quickly. I did Google and I am on Netflix's

website, downloading TV shows and movies on Netflix.

You can download select TV shows and movies to

watch without an internet connection from the

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connection, the latest version of the Netflix,

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while connected to Wi -Fi. See our help center

for more information on data usage. So I am trying

this out right now. I did do a physical search

on my Netflix app. Some of the Netflix -related

shows you cannot do. It's the other ones. And

certain movies will let you and certain ones

will not. For instance, I tried Captain America

Civil War. Will not let you. But I tried Ratchet

and Clank and it will. I tried The Flash and

it will let you download that. But I tried Fuller

House and it will not let you do that. So, I

mean, like, I think it's like give or take like

what it will let you do. It's probably similar

to their like, hey, this month these are leaving.

and this month these are being added, so it's

probably going to change up. And there is a My

Downloads folder on the thing, but it does download

the full whatever it is. I'm sure there's a way,

and just for curiosity's sake, not for bootlegging's

sake, I just want to see if I can actually pull

the file off the device. Just to see if it's

possible or if it's like an encoded file. Right,

yeah. So I may try that just to see how that

looks because I've got to imagine they're going

to have some kind of a security system built

into the file that either kills it if it leaves

the device or, you know, I'm sure there's something

to the file. I'm curious what it is. It might

even be a file format that's exclusive to the

app. So I'll check that out at a later date.

But for me, I went through, and this was another

issue, like I said, I was having with my physical

media. I had certain shows I was not really ready

to partake with. But at the same token, I really

couldn't hold on to them anymore. Because when

I sold my comics again, it's killed. This is

the second time I've had to do it. But I saved

a certain amount of them. Well, they wouldn't

fit in the tote if I didn't get rid of some more

DVDs. And so I got rid of ones I already had

on digital, or some of them that I had on digital,

or ones that I haven't looked at. Now, granted,

I've bought some that I haven't even... I've

watched them once since I bought them. But I

remember them so vividly that there's not even

a point in me popping the disc in. I mean, I

enjoy them. I sold my Ace Ventura discs because

I remember the movies vividly, but I also have

them digitally. But I sold the three Amigos,

which I don't have digitally, but I remember

the movie. Granted, I may try and get that digitally

at some point. Because it's Steve Martin, Chevy

Chase, and Martin Short. Really funny movie.

Oh, yeah. And then I sold a bunch of TV shows

that I had that were cartoon. The only ones that

I did not get rid of that were TV show of animated

series were Beast Wars, Beast Machines. Now,

mind you, I kept the Shout Factory, Beast Wars,

the Rhino ones I gave to my brother. Right, right.

Because... They were the same discs, but they

took up four times the amount of space. Yeah.

And I was like, I don't really need these. And

the special bonus feature that's on the disc,

I already have because of Predacon Empire. Well,

you do know that the Shout Factory Beast Machine...

It's missing now. Oh, really? Yeah, it doesn't

come with that. It's the specific scene I'm talking

about. There's an animatic on... The disc of

Nemesis Part 1 or Part 2. Oh, okay. It's one

of the two. And then there's a scene where Primal

or Optimal is putting this Megatron spark back

in Megatron. Right, right, right. And those are

not on the disc. But there are other features

that are on the disc of Shock Factory. So I wasn't

really worried about losing those. Now, granted,

I would rather have the Shout Factory release

of Beast Machines compared to the Rhino ones

that I have. As far as quality, I would agree.

But as far as features, there really is no difference

between Rhino and Shout Factory because they

ported over. I just like Box. Yeah. It's Box.

Oh, no, absolutely. And then there's, of course,

I saved the animated movies of G .I. Joe, Transformers,

Mask of the Phantasm, Return of the Joker. I've

saved all my Batman Beyond, all my Batman animated

series, all of my Beware of the Batman. I've

pretty much sold everything else. I got rid of

TF Prime. I got rid of G1. Just because I can't

watch them. Well, I mean, Prime is good, but

G1. I may have kept Prime. G1 I know I got rid

of because it puts me to sleep. The box art was

great, but that was... Don't get me wrong, it's

great in nostalgia's hindsight, but I can't...

I've found a lot of shows that I've tried to

go back and watch. I can't stomach them now.

With Transformers Generation 1... I can go back

and watch certain episodes and just relive my

childhood at this point. Yeah, certain episodes.

Certain episodes I can definitely go back to.

Is it something I can put on in the background

while I'm doing something else? Yeah, sure. Is

it something I can marathon watch and sit here

for 98 half hours? Probably not. So, yeah. Yeah.

So. In any case, I get rid of a bunch of stuff.

I totally get it. I have a hard drive where I

have stuff that I've owned that's now digital.

I'm still continuously adding to it. As I'm getting

rid of some of my DVDs, I'm just ripping them

to digital so that I can put them on there. pawning

everything and then the stuff the pawn shop won't

take or the uh the dvd uh place dvd video game

you know disc replay um won't take i've been

giving to family so uh it's whittled down my

1400 movie collection down to like 200 wow that's

uh dang dude well i mean because i mean 90 of

what was in there we never watched yeah like

it just it sat in there like a good we would

watch the movie once every three years and for

that they'll appear on netflix at some point

yep so um and then like i don't know if i mentioned

it in the last episode i touched on uh i because

mary was frustrated with half her shows leaving

i decided to give hulu a shot right And yes,

I realize you have Hulu. I just wanted to try

it on my own. Well, okay. So the interesting

thing here, what I noticed when I came back from

vacation. There's nothing on it? No. Ass. I can

add profiles. So it's kind of like they finally

caught up to Netflix with Hulu. Like I can create

you a profile. under my account and you can go

in and you can add your own stuff you can do

whatever you want to without actually changing

any of my stuff so it's similar to the netflix

profiles where netflix allows you i believe let

me look at this including your main profile it

allows you up to three additional profiles so

four profiles in total plus they have the kids

profile on netflix So it's kind of the same thing

with Hulu now is they've added profiles. So that's

absolutely not a problem for me. I can absolutely

add you a profile so you can just go to town.

But, yeah, so, I mean, we tried that out. I'm

telling you, ad -free Hulu is ten times better

than ad Hulu. I don't mind paying the $12 a month

for ad -free Hulu at all. I get so much enjoyment

out of it. Instead of sitting here, how many

ads is this block going to be? Oh, it's six.

Oh, it's seven. Oh, too many ads. So, yeah. Yeah.

So, anyways, we tried it out, and there wasn't

really much that we would watch that's on it.

Really? Yeah, I didn't really find all that much.

Are you talking about movies or TV shows? either

one really well we don't watch that many movies

anymore okay but like yeah i i agree i'm not

really watching i'm not really paying for hulu

for movies i'm paying for hulu for tv shows for

next day tv show airings like the simpsons or

which i don't often often watch that but that's

just one of the ones or um you know, uh, what's

a TV show, recent TV show, like imposter on TV

land and, and, uh, blind spot on NBC. They just

added the new Emerald city on, on, on NBC. So

yeah, I pretty much watch and pay for Hulu for

the TV shows, not the movies. Uh, there's tons

of TV shows on there that I'll watch. Hmm. Yeah.

So, I mean, um, I'm kind of torn. We tried Amazon

Prime. Couldn't do that either. It was worse.

The worst part about them was they were stuck

behind such a weird paywall. It made it almost

unbearable to deal with them because you didn't

know what... what was free according to your

plan or what was going to cost you money until

you were clicking in it. Plus, you can't really

view anything until you have... Amazon Prime

paid for. Yeah, I'm so not. The only time I've

ever taken advantage of Amazon Prime is if every

so often they'll offer me a free 30 -day trial.

And if I have extra money and I actually want

to buy something and I want to get it here in

two days, that's really the only thing I've ever

taken advantage of when it comes to Amazon Prime

is the free two -day shipping. Yeah, so I just

didn't care for it. it was it was crap um it's

crap so yeah i i just i didn't care for it at

all so i canceled it too um so yeah that was

just a lot of fun um so what are these surprises

you're gonna spray on me these these topics oh

that that's the fun part boy Oh, but think of

the fun. So, obviously, with the unfortunate

passing of Carrie Fisher in December, we have

that moral dilemma, I should say, of should they

bring her back digitally? In Episode 9. Now,

before you cut in, because I know there's a comment

coming. I know it. I can see it seething underneath

your skin. They did digitally bring her into

Rogue One, which was okay because, one, she was

alive, and two, they basically took canned audio

of her that was left over from A New Hope and

put it in there. So even though it looks awkward

and she still doesn't look quite right in that

visual in the movie compared to her A New Hope

version. And there was the moral dilemma of Tarkin.

Yeah, there's always the moral dilemma of Tarkin.

So, and while I get he was kind of imperative

to be there and it wasn't really, you know, I

mean, it was still the family's estate to say

so, which. The fact that Robin Williams, when

he passed away a couple of years ago, had said

that nobody could use his likeness or his audio

or anything that's stuck in a, you know, archive

somewhere tells you that he knew this was coming

way back when. So Disney and Lucasfilm has opted

not to digitally recreate Carrie Fisher for episode

nine. Which leaves them the moral dilemma of

what they're going to do with her character since

in episode 8 she has a very big role in the movie

and was supposed to have another big role in

episode 9. Hmm. So that kind of leaves them up

a creek. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what they're

going to do. I'm glad they're not just reusing

or going to digitally animate or whatever. I

think that's the smart way to go, not doing that.

So there is that. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't

want them to do it, for one. Just because I don't

think that it's morally right. Right. But, yeah,

I hope they don't go this route. Like, I know

that they've been digitally altering people for

a long time, you know, and they did it even in

the Hunger Games movies with, what was his name?

I'm horrible with names right now. Gandalf or

whatever. No, Gandalf. I don't know. I'm looking

the movies up because I can't remember well he

was he was a well known actor but he'd Philip

Seymour Hoffman oh yeah that's right he died

before the second movie could come out and they

had to digitally add him in to the second movie

but they didn't have very many role like him

speaking in that film at barely at all because

they didn't have any footage for those scenes

So they had to digitally add them in. So, like,

I mean, I kind of find that there's been a lot

of that questionable nature in Hollywood for

quite some time now. But it just kind of begs

to that moral dilemma of should they do it? Yeah.

Should they or shouldn't they? Normally, I would

say they shouldn't for the most part. Yeah. I

mean, it's okay. And I know you're not that interested

in this, but look at when Paul Walker died. He

was halfway through filming of Fast and the Furious

7 when he passed away, when he got killed in

the car wreck or whatever it was. They brought

his two younger brothers in to kind of fill out

his scenes. And that's fine. If you have that

much, instead of scrapping the movie and you've

got people that... pretty much can double for

the guy sure yeah go ahead and that was fine

but we don't need digital recreations we don't

need holograms we don't need any of that kind

of stuff now if you like if they want to do like

a just a homage to carrie fisher at some point

you know help me obi -wan you're my only hope

kind of thing yeah sure use the old footage but

don't craft it to where it's trying to fool the

audience into thinking that it's new footage

when we all know she passed away yeah so like

i i kind of get it but you know like i said same

token and just it's it's that morally gray area

yeah so yep absolutely um uh this one's a fun

one though i found this uh this came out january

9th A fan -made Home Alone clips. Oh, no. Did

you see this? No, I did not see this. They add

realistic digital blood and gore. Oh, no. So

it shows like after they gave it like the, it

says, have you ever thought to yourself, man,

I would love to do the Christopher Columbus Home

Alone or what would it have been like if Eli

Roth or Quentin Tarantino directed it? And it's

turning it from the PG -rated family comedy into

an R -rated blood -soaked gore fest. Don't do

that. It's actually quite hilarious. It shows

things happening. Some of it you get to see visually,

and then some of it you don't. Some of it's off

-screen. Most of the scenes, they're dead by

the end of it. That's just wrong. The bricks

to the forehead, the metal pipes to the skull,

and the shovels to the face. I can see if they

want to do that to Home Alone 3 and 4, but the

original? Come on, guys. It was funny. They have

all the clips on this link. I found it on Collider,

but it says they've got four clips. It's quite

humorous. The beginning part, it sounds like...

They do the part of the music for this thing,

and then they have the mom yell, Kevin! Because

it says Home Alone with blood, and then when

it says the blood splatters, that's when she

says it. And then there's the scenes where they're

getting hit with everything, and they're pretty

much... This is not a gray area for me. Don't

do this, people. This is a very black and white

thing. No. Just say no. Just say no, no, no.

I think it's hilarious. It's not morally right

at all. No, it's not. It's funny. Oh, crikey.

So, yeah. I think it's funny. But we'll leave

that there. So there's rumors. Well, actually,

not really rumors. It's kind of confirmed. But

Black Flash and Return of Gorilla Grodd on The

Flash. Yep. Well, we knew Wally was going to

be coming. I mean, we... Well, also, they're

saying that Zoom... Oh, okay. It's going to be

back as Black Flash. Okay, well, that's fine.

And we all knew that Gorilla Grodd was going

to come. Look, folks, the Flash has a very unique

universe, but his universe is not wide -reaching.

The Flash's rogues gallery, while very unique,

interesting, and diverse, there's only a certain

few many things you can do. I mean, you know,

for me right now with The Flash, when it comes

to bringing villains back or seeing more of the

different classic Flash villains, I can't wait

to see if they do another Mirror Master episode.

And The Flash to me has really just been firing

on all cylinders. So I'm just excited for all

the shows to come back because they come back

next week. Yay. I know. You know what the bitch

of it is, though? Legends moved. You got Flash

and Legends on the same damn night, 8 and 9 p

.m. Eastern Standard Time. So Legends is on Tuesdays

now after Flash. Hey, I can live with that. Yeah,

I can too, but I'm just saying it's like this

superhero all week stuff is kind of... And I

think Arrow and Supergirl are on the same time.

Yeah, yeah. Oh. I don't know. Chain me to the

wall. If this is torture, chain me to the wall.

Yeah, I could have sworn that they... I don't

know what they're doing with Supergirl. I thought

they were going to do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

kind of thing, but let's see. Season 2, Medusa,

Better Angels. Oh, that's the ratings. Supergirl

lives January 23rd. That's Monday for Supergirl.

She lives on 23rd? Yes. Where does she go? That's

the Kevin Smith directed episode. Yeah, I think

Supergirl is going to stay on Mondays and I think

Arrow is going to stay on Wednesdays. I don't

know what CW is going to do for Thursday. Maybe

that's... No, Legion is FX. That's the... It's

the X -Men thing. Well, did you hear that Black

Lightning is going to be going to Fox? Oh, wow.

But it's not going to cross over with... But

they did bring Constantine as a CW Seed series,

though, and it's digital, kind of like the Vixen

series. Right, right. Animated. So they do have

John Constantine on that. Yeah, and plus he appeared

on Arrow, so I'm sure he's going to cross over.

He may come back at some point. Yeah, at some

point. It's not going to be his own series, but

as a character, he can come back into the universe.

I've got to say, I... But Gotham is – like Arrow

is like higher than Gotham for me now. Gotham

is just – I'm almost ready to drop that again.

I'm excited to see what they do with the Jerome

thing because that was the latest episode, the

episode that came back this week, January 11th,

the Monday, January 11th episode. Or last week

I should say. Whatever the hell. The January

11th episode of Gotham was all right. It was

interesting, but it wasn't interesting to me

until the Jerome stuff started happening. The

whole Cobblepot thing and the whole Falcone and

What's -Her -Nuts Tompkins are going to get revenge

on Gordon for killing Mario. This is just a nighttime

soap opera that should be on during the day at

this point. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't

know what to think about it at this point. I

am looking forward to all the shows coming back,

though. Absolutely. Supergirl, Flash, Arrow,

and Legends. I think I'm more excited about Legends

only because I don't know what's going to happen

as far as Rip Hunter. And I haven't yet watched

the trailer when they're pulling him in. Yeah.

The one I posted on the GCR thing. Yeah. So I

haven't watched that yet. That's the only reason

why I knew it was moving. It was because I watched

the damn trailer. It was like, new night, new

time, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, wait,

what? And then, of course, we have Mark Hamill

reading Donald Trump quotes as the Joker. Yes.

Which he started doing. He says, but he writes

such good lines. And, you know, I get people

are like a little cranky that he's doing. You

know what? Honestly, the guy is having fun with

it. He's not getting political with it. He's

not politically bashing. I mean, he's not doing

anything different than what Billy West did with

Zap Brannigan. Yeah, I mean, and, you know, it's

not like, you know, Mark is making a stance because

he can't really make a stance as the voice of

the Joker. He's just reading them in the Joker's

voice. And it's stuff Trump has already said,

and it's fine. It's hilarious. I absolutely enjoy

it. I think it's funny. Well, like Trump said,

and I'm not getting political. No, no, no. Yeah,

yeah. But Trump said, this is the one that spurned

the whole thing, though, is so Donald Trump puts,

you know, Happy New Year to all, including my

many enemies and those who have fought me and

lost so badly that they don't know what to do.

And then he says love. And so. Matt Oswalt says...

What the heck is Matt Oswalt? I don't know what

you're talking about now. Well, I'm just reading

it from a site. But he says, this sounds like

something the Joker would say right before releasing

a swarm of killer bees into Gotham. He says,

billion dollar idea, an app that you can feed

every Trump tweet into it that plays it back

in Mark Hamill himself's Joker voice. You're

welcome. There you go. And then Hamill says,

as soon as I figure out how to tweet soundbites,

I'd love to. Nobody writes better supervillain

dialogue than Trump Putin. And so it says about

seven hours later, Hamill succeeded in his goal

and posted the result. And then it's got the

Christmas with the Joker picture behind it. And

then he's reading it. And, you know, so he reads

the whole line. He's doing a couple more, too,

I think. Yeah, he's... But it goes, Happy New

Year to all, including to my many enemies, and

those who have fought me and lost so badly that

they just don't know what to do. And then he

goes, Love! And then he just does the cackle

at the end, but, like, it was... It was just...

Either way, it was hilarious. It was awesome,

yeah. And then, of course, we have... the latest

debate of because CW has been inching its way

closer and closer to a Batman possible appearance

and it's been hinted at and some of the actors

are like I'd love to see Batman and then they're

like we should get Ben Affleck and they're like

they'll never get Ben Affleck it's like it's

two different universes geniuses they should

get Will Arnett they almost need to get somebody

a little bit more gruff. Like he's been in a

game a while, but he'd have to be from like super

girls and, uh, you know, um, Superman's timeline,

not from arrows. Oh yeah. He'd almost, I mean,

but at the same time, but at the same time, cause

like they've joked about Gotham specifically

and super girl. Yeah. Um, but they've also like

had Wayne industries and the flash. Yeah. So

it's kind of a toss -up where that could end

up. As long as it's not birthed on Arrow. I don't

mind if it's birthed on Supergirl or Flash, because

like you said, they've mentioned it. Diggle had

made a joke about how he'd just love to see Batman

and Arrow just throw down. Honestly, you know

what? I don't know if this would ever work. I

don't think this would ever happen. But seriously,

you know who they should really get? I don't

know if he can pull off the suit, but the one

man that has voiced Batman for 25 years this

year is BTAS's 25th anniversary, Kevin Conroy.

He wouldn't fit the role. Oh, come on! I love

Kevin Conroy. He could be an older Batman. He's

a voice actor. He would not fit the CW -ness

of Batman. He would have to be a middle -aged

actor that's younger. Screen Rant has a list

of 15 people they think it could be. I'm going

to go down the list. You're not going to know

who half these people are. I'm having a feeling

I don't either. They got this guy. This is Brent

Doherty. Never heard of him. Who's he been in?

Chick Flicks. Okay. That's all I had to say.

So then they had Tom Welling at number 14. No.

As much as I love Tom Welling, and that would

be kind of cool, a nice little reversal of fortune

thing there. If they're not going to bring him

back as Superman, they're sure as hell not going

to bring him back as Batman. Well, and then they

had Wes Bentley. No clue. He's been in... Check

Flicks. Interstellar. Oh, okay. Hunger Games.

American Horror Story. Then there's Tomo Peneket,

who was in Battlestar Galactica, Supernatural,

Dollhouse, Continuum. He was in that. Somebody

put Nathan Fillion. No. They should have him

just be Green Lantern. In the show. That just

cut to the chase. Just bring Green Lantern in

and have him do it. James Badgedale. Never heard

of him. I've heard his name. He was in Iron Man

3. 13 Hours. World War Z. CSI. 24. I think he

was in first season of 24. Yeah. I've heard of

him. I just haven't... Yeah. Somebody put...

Dave Annabelle, never heard of him. He's been

in a lot of canceled shows. Aiden Turner, never

heard of him. There's a lot of weird names. None

of these guys seem to fit the look. They have

Brett Dalton from Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D.

Grant Ward is on the list at number four. He

could pull it off, but he looks too, I don't

know. I don't think he'd fit it. They have David

Boreanaz at number three, which I could see that

more so than the rest that they've listed so

far. Then they got this guy, Anson Mount, and

then E .I. and Bailey, who... He almost got cast

as Batman instead of Christian Bale on The Batman

Begins, which is why they have him on it. But

he's on Once Upon a Time, a TV show. I would

like to see them bring in Jensen Ackles from

Supernatural. Yeah, just like I mentioned when

the live -action stuff was coming. Because, honestly,

he's already on their payroll, and he could fit

that brooding, and he's got the buff. Yep. and

he already doesn't play well with others on that

show, so it would kind of make sense. And that

would be another interesting Smallville recap

because he used to be Whitley. Or not Whitley.

He was Lana's boyfriend in the first season of

Smallville, originally, before he left. Switching

gears just a little bit, I'm going to spring

this on you. Have you heard of this new TV series

from ABC called Big Fan? No. You've never heard

of it? No. Big fan. The U .S. TV network ABC

announced Big Fan in February 2016. The series

is based on a segment on Jimmy Kimmel Live called

Who Knows, in which contestant competes against

a celebrity of whom he or she is a fan, answering

trivia and biographical questions about the star.

The half -hour series is hosted by Andy Richter,

Jimmy Kimmel. David Goldberg and Caroline Baumgart

as executive producers. Basically, what it is

is it's a battle to find out who's the biggest

fan of whatever people, the four episodes they

have. First episode, Matthew McConaughey. Second

episode, Aaron Rodgers. Third episode, Kim Kardashian

West. And the most recent episode is Kristen

Bell. It's currently on Hulu. So what is the

purpose of this show? It's basically to find

out who is their biggest fan. Who is the biggest

fan of the actor? Of that person that's on the

show, yeah. So each episode is a certain celebrity,

and they ask fans the questions, I guess, to

find out who is the biggest fan of that person.

Sometimes ABC just... I just have to shake my

head because... And this is from Kimmel and Richter.

Why are you going to take a skit from your late

night show and make a whole show out of it? That

makes no damn sense. Because it's Kimmel? Yeah,

that's true. I'm Jimmy Kimmel. So, yeah, there

was a lot of the stuff that I was going to bring

up because it's just kind of humorous in and

of itself. That Home Alone stuff is just so wrong,

though. The Home Alone thing is hilarious. It's

hilarious, but it's hilarious and wrong all at

the same time. So, there was something I was

going to bring up, too, and I just forgot what

the heck it was. It was important a minute ago,

but I don't remember now. I don't know. So yeah,

and I guess I'll tell this here now that we're

on this show. My wife and I were going to do

that challenge on Fit Ready Go, and we opted

not to because it was disgusting. It was... a

juice cleanse right type thing it was like a

juicing uh fast type of thing so you like every

meal that you have it's like juice you know of

some kind but you you take a juicer and you put

the vegetables and the fruit in and it was the

most vile smelling and tasting things i've ever

had in my entire life it gave me a new appreciation

for actual food that i have been so picky about

um And we were going to do it. I had the video

edited. I had the day one edited. We went through

the first day. Today was the second day. We opted

not to do this. We're like, this is like... And

she folded first. That's funny. Because it made

her ill, not getting real food. Plus, we also

realized how much caffeine we were addicted to.

Because the moment we weren't on it, Heads throbbing,

brains hurting, non -functional, zombie -like

state. Like, we were just out. So yeah, it's

not been fun. At all. So what are some movies

that everybody's looking forward to for 2017?

I made a list on AlteredGeek .com on the sidebar,

now that I've fixed the text. And it says coming

to theaters in 2017. I, of course, have Resident

Evil listed in the coming next to theaters. So

every month I will change that. I have no idea

why the graphic's not showing up for that right

now. I'll have to fix something with it. But

anyways, the Lego movie comes out in February.

I put Space Between Us, which I can't remember

what that was. Oh, I think it had to do with

that Mars kid. The kid's born on Mars. which

looked interesting just because of that. So yeah,

Lego Batman, Logan, Power Rangers. Logan, Power

Rangers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Pirates of

the Caribbean, Wonder Woman, Cars 3, Transformers,

Spider -Man, Order of the Planet of the Apes,

Blade Runner, Saw, Thor, Justice League, Star

Wars 8, and Jumanji. I'm not looking forward

to Jumanji at all. That'll be something I will

not see right away. I'm looking forward to it

just because I want to see what they do. Lego

Batman. I've been watching all the trailers for

it. I absolutely love it. I don't know if I'll

actually see it in theaters, but I'll see it

eventually. The only one I'm going to see in

theater out of any of these movies is going to

be Star Wars. Yeah. And Justice League, maybe.

Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff coming

out this year that I'm interested in. Cars 3.

I just want to see what the story they're going

to create. Because as everyone knows, 11 years

ago when Cars came out, everybody loved the original

Cars. Then when Cars 2 came out, they were like,

oh, why did you make it about Mater? And now,

no, no, no. You know what it's going to be about,

right? Yeah, I know. It's going to be like a

passing of the torch, kind of like the Doc situation.

Yeah, I know. However, it's going to show, unlike

Doc, that... Lightning still has what it takes

to play with the – Right. No, I understand that.

But what I'm saying is you look at everything

Cars has done between three – two, almost three

movies. The first movie was pretty much Lightning

Story and whatever else. The second movie they

tried to make Mater the headliner, which I don't

mind Cars 2. I actually like Cars 2. I think

it's fun. And now Cars – I like Michael Caine.

Yeah, as is Finn McMissile. And now Cars 3, they've

got this new animation style and they've got

this whole new story and whatever else with lightning.

And I'm really, really interested in it. And

so, yeah, that and, you know, Transformers has

just become Transformers at this point. It is

what it is. I'm very excited for Justice League.

I'm very excited for Star Wars as well. I think

I'm most excited about Star Wars out of that

whole list. But if I had to give them a top five,

my number one would be Star Wars. My number two

would be Justice League. My number three would

be Wonder Woman. Number four would probably be

Logan. And number five would probably be Spider

-Man. With a close number six being, like, Cars

3. Yeah, yeah. The rest of them I'm excited for

too, but to lesser extent. Power Rangers, that's

going to be on Netflix. Majority of these are

going to be Netflix for me because I just don't

care enough. I would be curious to see what people's

top five movies are for the year. coming out

i because i honestly this is what hit my main

radar not saying that there aren't other things

that will i just and i've been watching a lot

more documentaries lately lately right um so

i mean that's that's been kind of something interesting

to me too lately but um but yeah i'd just be

curious absolutely so let us know on that folks

um Anything else you want to bring up before

we get the flock out of here? I think that's

about it. We're clocking in right here at about

the one -hour mark, and I think we've done pretty

well. Awesome. So until next time, get Altered

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