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Transformers: Requiem of the Wreckers Review

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for you to enjoy. Okay, well, I knew that was
coming. That's a really big cast. For those of
you that don't know this, here on my right, Twin
Twist and Cup, on the left are Perceptor and
Topspin. My name's Springer, and I'm in charge.
That's one way to wreck a childhood, right? Speaking
of wrecking, all right. Autobotly August 2018
continues as we talk about Transformers Requiem
of the Wreckers. You can't talk Wreckers without
the Lady Wreck being here. Everyone say hello
to Amy. Good to be here. Yes, yes, yes. It's
clobber time. Oh god. Joining us also is Ryan
even flow Merkley aka nightbeat who apparently
died already. I don't know Wow, you guess you
get a super cheerful. She gets a super cheerful
intro of mine's like oh also Ryan's here Well,
I couldn't find anything Uh, we are back for
another week of Transformers comic goodness here
inside the pull bag on all things Transformers.
This is episode 321 of TPB and I am of course
TF2 and Mike. Today we explore the final story
of the Wreckers Saga. And I will say this right
now folks. You all should have read Walking Dead
issue number 202 for this. Well, OK, then I'll
say this right now, folks. You all better listen
to the entire podcast because there's going to
be a special guest at the end of the episode.
Wait, I thought you were going to say because
there's going to be a quiz at the end. OK, wait
a second. There's a special guest. So obviously,
you didn't even tell us. Yeah, it's obviously
not me because he gave me the shitty intro. You'll
just have to listen to it when it goes online.
It's a it's a special add -in piece. Okay, no
deal What is no deal? I don't like hearing my
own voice in person much less on the podcast
You can skip to the end. You don't like like
I will give you the timestamp like if I like
if I owned a podcast I wouldn't actually have
me on it. Then I'd have to listen to me and that's
a problem I'm just saying. Well, I have to listen
to you all the time when I edit, so it's like,
that's even a bigger problem for me at this point.
Yeah, but I'm hilarious to you, at least. Yeah,
that's true. How many podcasts have you been
on, Ryan? I don't know. It's been a lot now.
Yeah. I was going to say, yeah. Of course, you've
known that you had to edit, right? Hey, do you
think? Hey, do you think you could get, oh no,
I used to edit TFY and some of the other ones.
Hey Amy, do you think you could get me a guest
gig on some other shows? Get my name out there?
I don't know. Come on, have your people talk
to my people. Yeah, my people is usually just
me. Well then you talk to you later. Talk to
me later. See what I can do. I'll see what I
can do. All right. So Requiem of the Wreckers.
One thing I want to point out. Wait, wait, wait.
Stop, stop, stop. You're ruining my whole thing
here. Fine. This is what friends are supposed
to do. They ruin everything. Exactly. Just like
Michael Bay. Uh, Requiem of the Wreckers, wreck
and rule. They've been beaten up, torn apart,
betrayed, and had their sins revealed. The few
remaining Wreckers are more lost and lonelier
than they've ever been, which makes it the perfect
time for them to come under fire from an anti
-Cybertronian campaigner and an old foe. Remember
them fondly, because this is the Requiem of the
Wreckers. Yeah, that's the back of the issue,
I mean. Oh, shit. I'm just trying to be helpful,
you know. All right. If I had my passport, I
would come up there and beat the living crap
out of you. That's fine. I just have you detained
at the border. So one thing I want to point out,
the art duties on this, like before we start,
are split up significantly. So it was written
by and then some of the arts done by Nick Roche
Unsurprisingly what I thought was really neat
they get Jeff senior who longtime transformer
fans will recognize from the generation one UK
days and the tail end of Marvel US As well as
they get Brandon Cahill back who is one of IDW's
many excellent people But the art in this is
fantastic, and I want to point out I want to
point out that each one of them has different
pages and different segments to do to in this.
So I mean, Senior does the flashbacks, which
look perfect, especially if you're a longtime
fan of Transformer comics. And then Roach and
Cale are just fantastic. So like most of the
IDW stuff, I feel like a broken record, but the
art is amazing in all of their books. Yeah, it
is. I agree. They have to do top -notch work.
We demand a lot. Well, it seems like everybody
they find, right? So, you know, Cahill... There
have been a few over the years that have been
kind of a few missteps, but... Yeah, but especially
recently, though, I mean, Cahill, I hadn't really
heard of before his transformer work, and I like
him. I knew Jack Lawrence from... He did some
really old work for Marvel in comics that were
pack -ins with pewter figures, including the
Punisher. So I knew his work, but he has knocked
it out of the park, especially recently on Lost
Light. And then there's people like Key Zama,
who was just a... I shouldn't say just, sorry.
Oof, that was a really dumb way to say things.
Anyway, she had done... fan or deviant art work
for Transformers before this and just was enamored.
Now she was enamored with Last Stand of the Wreckers,
which is the first part of this trilogy we're
talking about. And she just kind of got signed
on and does amazing work. So, yeah, yeah, you're
right. She's just amazing. So. Yeah. And running
out this group, Tom B. Long is one of the letterers.
I have nothing more to say about him. He is the
best in the business. And Sean Lee as well who
does. Yeah. And Sean Lee is the lead, but it's
also like he's also excellent. So. Yeah, on Lee
as far I know he does other stuff at IDW But
mainly where I know his name from is the TMNT
books and yeah I think he letters almost all
of the main ongoing for TMNT unless it's some
sort of special thing or something amazing amazing
work There's not enough love out there for letters.
Good job guys So who's gonna go first jeez, I
don't know Did we mention the two Josh's on colors?
Amy's talked to them before. That's true, yeah.
I've talked to almost everybody on this list.
You kidding? Except the letters, unfortunately,
because I just haven't had a chance to be at
a convention where they were at, dog on it. Yeah.
Two more. I don't really have more to say about.
Josh Vircham is incredible. Yeah. Yeah. And Josh
Perez has, I know Perez, I can't remember when
else he does, but I know most, I know his Transformers
work obviously, which is quite good, so. Yeah.
All right, so. Now my mind is blank, I can't
remember the other stuff that Josh is doing too,
but he's, just follow him on Twitter and he's
got stuff. Yeah, I feel bad. Yeah, he's got stuff
that he, he's always doing stuff, so. He's always
doing stuff that is That is base. I'm sure that's
gonna be the next intro Blanchard gives me on
a podcast and he's always doing stuff. It's Ryan
Well dog on it, let me hop over to is So anyway
This is part three of the record saga we started
with last stand of the records as mentioned in
the intro by Mike they Preface it with that and
they also bring up their sins which of course
sins of the records which was part two which
introduced tarantulas and the concept of Springer
as the son of tarantulas essentially And we're
now on to Requiem of the Wreckers, which if you've
read the first two, then you know the cast is
a little bit smaller at this point. Yeah. And
if you have not read the first two, if you haven't
read the first two, I can't recommend Last Stand
of the Wreckers enough. It is a terrific jumping
on point for IDW books and a great lead in to
Death of Optimus Prime, which is the launching
point for More Than Meets the Eye, Robots in
Disguise, and all the other books that are still
running, slash finishing up. But these are really
good individual standalone stories. Even if you're
unfamiliar with a lot of the Transformers and
the IDW stuff, I recommend these heavily, as
well as the Not as much standalone, but the Dinobots
trilogy as well. It's quite good, but this works
very much as a standalone. You don't really need
to know anything about the universe. Yeah, no.
This is just, you know, the wreckers and their
adventures and it's so great. I actually thought...
When this was first announced or first shown
off whenever that happened, I forget off the
top of my head That I thought this was gonna
be another five issue series or something like
sins was I was hoping I knew wasn't yeah I saw
it. I'm like, oh, it's just a one -shot really
well like two issues shot actually Yeah, it's
a little larger. So yeah, it's larger than normal
issues. And yeah, I'll point out now to the Josh
Perez works on Mega Man, which is also for. Oh,
yeah, that's right. Yeah. I'm glad you saw that.
Yeah. Mega Man. My favorite of all the. No, anyway.
So, yeah, the price tag for this one's a little
higher. Don't be fooled. The trade the trade
issue was seven ninety nine up here. Yeah, that
sounds about right. Yeah. No, it wasn't. It was
even more expensive up here. Whatever. Anyway,
nobody cares about my problems with pricing.
So yeah, this ended up being basically a two
shot or probably a little longer because there's
no ads than most of IDW's other work. Yeah, but
it also makes sense that this isn't the full
series because to be blunt There's so few of
the cast members remaining that it's not tough
to focus on everybody in one issue Other than
just the three pages in the back that had like
the the notes and stuff from from Nick No, I'm
looking at it now and I just I think there's
three pages. Yeah, it's just the three pages
of notes from Nick. There were no other actual
ads On Comixology, it was originally listed at
$4 .99 here in the States, and now apparently
it's still on sale for $3 .99. Nice. Yeah, there's
the usual IDW ads in the back, but I don't really
count them. It's not the same as the Marvel or
DC stuff where they break it up. Yeah, and IDW
is not a company that will put ads in the middle
of books at all. Thank heavens, because it's
really frustrating when they do that. I hate
that. They don't do that. In IDW, you're not
going to get that problem. It's not going to
be an interruption in the middle of your book.
I mean, that's only in the print issues that
that happens, like the digital issues. I don't
think Marvel in DC does that either, because
I've been reading the new Tony Stark Iron Man,
and I've been reading a couple other things.
So digitally, they don't. Print -wise, they do.
I have, like, I just, I can't do print anymore.
Yeah. Just can't. So yeah, we start out with
Verity and Springer and... I don't know if it's
the lighting or what the deal is, but Springer
looks a little differently colored at this point.
It's the mood lighting. Yeah, they're in hiding
and that's the whole sort of point. So previous
two Sins of the Wreckers, Verity and Springer
have stayed on Earth and they just kind of monitor
what's going on. despite the fact that Springer
in particular didn't really want to. Yeah. But
they've just learned that and this is from a
spoiler for Transformers versus visionaries,
apparently issue one, which came out of left
field. But I knew it had happened. They learned
of the death of Cup, which affects both of them.
Cup was Springer's real father, essentially.
I know I mentioned that. The guy that pretty
much raised him. Yeah. So it affects him. Verity
was fairly close to Cup, despite Cup's near constant
verbal abuse towards her. He legitimately cared
about her. Yeah. That's probably why. It's like,
you know, when you're a kid and you tease the
person that you like, you know? Yeah, and we
get flashbacks that show the relationship between
Cup and Springer. It should be noted, I think,
well, not I think, when we did our review on
Optimus Prime Volume 1, I talked about that the
flashbacks seemed fairly intrusive at points.
They're not in this book. They're not here. Well,
they were. This is the first time I have not
had an issue with the Transformers flashbacks.
Well, they also set the mood really well to what's
going on at the moment. And I found some of the
Optimus Prime stuff was just sort of in there
to get through certain storytelling pieces, which
again, I have a real hard time. knocking it because
Barbara does such a good job with that. But I
read this and see how the flashbacks are used
by Roach and it's really well done. It feels
like it slides right in when you need it and
goes right out when you're done. I mean, it's
really seamless. Anyway, we get back to the issue
Okay, so with the flashback part of this that
the first part is it just me or does cup look
like he's on his last? back to Spotlight cup
where yeah He had the super old looking body
that was broken down and he refused to upgrade
to a new one like everybody else Well, that makes
sense for the continuity of it too, because this
is supposed to be in the past, you know Yeah,
speaking that works really great for his character
didn't really get the upgrades until after this
Yeah, so it's a callback to yeah, it's a callback
to that and good continuity Very very doesn't
like that. There's no chapter mode obviously
They can't exactly fly around. Well, they're
supposed to be in cover, under cover. Yeah, exactly.
A little too inconspicuous there, right? Yeah.
This gas station scene is just too much. I just
like... I know Transformers need gas and all
that, but it just seems... Oh, they didn't stop
for him, they stopped for her. Yeah. Right, no,
I know, but I'm just saying that... the whole
thing with them at the gas station, just that
whole concept. Just seeing Springer in his alt
mode in front of a gas pump is just like, wow,
it's cool. Springer then gets nabbed. Yeah. Well,
Verity is not with them and we've got some problems
now. Oh, yeah. And Springer disappears for a
bit. However, we sort of move forward to a human's
first rally. Jeez, who does that remind me of?
Well, anyway. Springer shows up and tries to
kill the speaker, which is a bit odd and out
of character for Springer. And we discover that...
That sounds something that Impactor might do.
Hmm we and we just we discover that one of our
springers favorite good friends is Masquerading
as a anti -robot Politician It's overlord, you
know somebody else can fill this in jeez I Was
extremely happy to see him again. I love pretty
much all of overlord's appearances. Yeah Uh,
there's a piece of me that's a little sad that
Roberts doesn't get the last word on him, but
on the other hand, uh, Roche is the one that
brought him into prominence, so it's only fair.
Yeah. Yeah. But in any case, uh, so everybody
confronts Overlord. Uh, that goes about as well
as you think. Actually, I think it's the other
way around. I think he confronts everybody else.
Oh, yeah. But, yeah. At this point, I'd be like,
we're about made! Carnivax, yeah, a group of
mayhem thinks it's a great idea to attack him,
which, for anyone who doesn't know, Overlord
is a phase sixer in the Transformers universe,
and is essentially unbeatable. Except for Lester
Megatron, right? Yeah, so, well, whatever. Get
into that a little bit. Megatron, to be fair,
one -on -one is a pretty bad pretty bad dude
uh so yeah he mauls the mayhem's off panel and
then just takes off with verity yep um i love
the art in these panels i think that is super
cool um this like it's it's been a year since
we did sins i think or so i forget when like
It's been a while. I wish they've like I Understand
things happen in people's lives and things like
that But if they're gonna do like this trilogy
like I knew it was a while between last stand
and sins but they did have to be so long between
sins and this because Yeah, cuz a lot of stuff
happened. Yeah No, my point is that I think it
had to because there's a lot of other stuff and
other characters going on like I mentioned overlord
and they pretty much had to have the Reckoning
slash meeting of Megatron the Autobots and overlord
before this Right. Yeah, as well as some of the
other stuff that was just set up not to mention
the things with cup I mean, I think it ended
up making this book stronger that cup was gone
which disturbs me to say, because I love the
character, but anyway, go ahead. I kind of want
to say that I think, and maybe I'm really not
sure, maybe it'd be a good time for me to, you
know, somebody ask Nick or whatever, because
it seems like this was announced, this book was
announced, and then like a month later we also
found out that things were also going to be wrapped,
that they were going to wrap things up. So I
kind of get the sense that The reason why he
wrote it to issue is because he knew it was going
to wrap up, and this was his opportunity to wrap
things up, the story that he had started, knowing
that this might be the end of the last time he's
going to get a chance to do that. Yeah, so why
don't you just call your best buddy Nick? I mean,
I obviously can't. I'm not even important enough
to get a decent intro, but. Stop. Geez. That's
all you, Mike. That's all you. I'm not going
to touch that one. No, it would just be interesting
to be a fly on the wall to see how some of this
stuff kind of unfolded, you know, how long, you
know, from the time that he was told, hey, guess
what, we're wrapping things up to the point,
you know, to the time where he said, OK, you
know, this is this is what I came up with for
the wrap up for the records. I just wonder about
some of that, you know, how that time line goes.
It's quite interesting. And speaking of which,
we get a little bit of closure on Carnivac and
his squad in the next page, who are now all deceased.
But anyway, Impactor. Till all are dead. Yeah,
basically. So Impactor picks up Springer at this
point. Overlord brings Verity back to see the
guy who's pulling all the strings. Tarantulas,
yeah. Yep. Nice touch, by the way, that now granted
they mentioned it later on in the book, but Tarantulas
was the spider we saw at the end of Sins of the
Wreckers. So he was, you know, keeping tabs on
everybody the whole time. I thought that was
a nice touch that they answered that question.
Same with, I mean, previously it was Streetwise
at the end of Last Stand. And that was confirmed
in Requiem, or Sins, but this is Requiem. What
I love about this is when they go to basically
give the origin of how Springer joined the records,
I think that's cool. with him and Impactor and
all that, that's fun. I love the art on the page
where he's like, do you know how violated you
feel after your body is forced to change from
one mode to another? And his new power, like
the way that the art's done on Springer's face,
I'm like, wow, I've never seen that character
look that way before, that's kinda cool. And
we also get to my favorite parts in all in these
are in both these issues and this book and that
is the delightful interplay between overlord
and tarantulas I love overlord and tarantulas
is a moron for working with him because The inevitable
occurs I mean as soon as you saw Overlord and
found he was working for somebody, you knew whoever
that was was gonna die. He's not the most stable
guy. Yeah, but you also have to look at the fact
that Tarantulas has been pretty much working
on his own for so long, he doesn't make the best
decisions. Overlord's a terrible employee, though.
I mean, he pretty much always... He's gonna totally
go postal on you. Yeah, he's gonna kill the boss
or try to kill the boss at some point. That's
really his MO. And much like... He'll tolerate
you to a point until it does not further his
means anymore and then that's it. All deals are
off. Much like his appearance in... the final
act of More Than Meets the Eye, where he teams
up and then completely undermines Tarn and the
DJD, which was delightful. He does the same here,
but not quite yet. We get another flashback to...
Well, actually, yeah, this is the flashback Mike
mentioned. And we jump to Springer is displeased
with Impactor. Surprise, surprise. This is the
best scene. I really like this. It's like, hey,
punch him in the face. Yeah. So Impactor took
him, picked him up and took him to the mayhem
HQ to basically fix him because he got knocked
pretty good. He was the only survivor of the
little smackdown between Overlord and the Mayhem
squad. Only because he didn't attack, because
he was brainwashed. Yeah, pretty much. He's just
like, ah, Overlord, yeah, boom. Knock to the
face and you're out for the count. So then we
jump to, we finally get Tarantulas' plan, which
is to go back in time and nudge events. And we
find out why Overlord was working for him, which
is to go back in time and try to beat the shit
out of Megatron again. Yep. Yeah, because he's
singularly focused on that. And seeing as how
the one that's in this time is not worthy, you've
got to go back in time to the one where he was
actually worthy, right? Yeah, to try to kill
him. And this is where the inevitable falling
out happens. I'm with Verity on this one. I think
it's hilarious that. Yeah, I mean, they're both
completely two sides of the coin. They're both
completely consumed with one person, but in very
different ways. And Overlord's focus has always
been even more unhealthy that Overlord's focus
is just unhealthy to everybody around him because
he's the strongest being in all of IDW, seemingly.
Pretty much. Yeah. One of them. Yeah. I mean,
he's a walking planet destroyer, so... Yeah.
Yeah. So that goes about as well as you'd think
for Tarantulas here. He gets roughed up. Yeah.
Overlord gets roughed up pretty good, too. Because
Impactor's like, damn it, I was trying to get
the same eye as last time. Well, he gets him
in the eye again, but... He just kind of shrugs
it off, as usual. Oh, yeah. And an Overlord can
sustain some pretty major damage. But yeah, Impactor
and Springer intervene. They fight. It does not
go particularly well. No. The Springer and Impactor
end up separated from everybody. Yep. Taking
on Overlord by themselves, yeah? Yeah, great
idea there. We got more flashbacks to another
personal favorite character, which is prowl the
prick At least he's not flipping tables in this
issue. No, that's true. They should have found
a way to throw that in all right and I really
like so the next sequence is a Reimagining reverse
role of what we were told happened on pova which
was Impactor fires through Springer to take the
Decepticon mayhem by surprise. Here we have the
reverse. Springer fires through Impactor, killing
him in order to stun Overlord. And by stun, I
mean, it basically just knocks him off his feet
and he gets back up anyway. It doesn't do too
much other than knocks him out of the way for
a bit and gives him a few seconds more to run.
Yeah, that's pretty much the most anyone's ever
done to the guy. I mean, Fort Max pummeling him
when he was incapacitated. Even that just brought
him down to a knee. So it takes a lot to hurt
the guy. However, we learn what Springer's plan
is here, which is really smart, might I add.
Probably the one few things that they could do
to stop Overlord, to be honest. Yeah, with Karnavak's
help, they force Overlord to transform. Now,
for anybody who doesn't know this, Overlord in
Generation 1 and actually in every toy since
then, he splits into two pieces. The top piece
is a jet. The bottom part is a tank. And Verity
working the controls and Springer using the portals
throws his jet mode into the future. And his
tank mode into the past. Into the past. Yep.
Which by the way, could he survive that? I always
wonder about this. I'm not sure though, because
I mean, if his tank mode just sort of hangs out,
won't his jet mode eventually... Don't know he's
really tough. So yeah, but you're also talking
about it's not just they're not just two different
places They're also in two different times. Yeah,
there's only so far. I mean, I my guess is that
you get so far it just It snaps like he's he's
half the man. He's half the body used to be Yeah,
like quite literally. I mean they quite literally
Yeah, they quite literally time jumped him lengthways.
Yeah. The other thing right before that happens
is Verity goes and takes some money for herself.
Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. The hacking on
the terminal. Yes. I love the the end bits of
this i'm not the biggest tarantulas fan in the
world but this was really cool the um the goodbye
between him and springer oh i've always had to
see a prowls though i mean the whole reason why
you didn't go look for springer to begin with
was because he was told that springer was dead
and so it's kind of like you don't know it just
kind of He feels bad, because you're like, hey,
it's like the kid that I never knew I had, but
I had, but I'm, yeah, so it's very... I've said
it before, all of the IDW universe boils down
to decisions and strings being pulled by either
Prowl or Shockwave. They are literally the two
most important characters in all of the IDW universes.
It always comes down to them, so Yeah, we go
to the touching moment between Verity and Springer
So there's that yeah, so Springer decides to
go back to the past in an attempt to kind of
Fix yeah nudge things into a better Place and
have to be wreckers. There would have to be records.
Yeah And I guess we'll never know if he succeeded
or not, which is fine I think it's an excellent
ending for the Wreckers in general. He's the
last member left. There are former members kicking
around like world, but they're few and far between
He got kicked out. Yeah, we're trying to kill
Springer. Yeah No, was it? Was it? Oh, yeah,
you're right. It was Springer. That's right.
Try to give them a spark eater. Zero point. That's
right. OK, gotcha. But yeah, so. Yeah, and we
close with so since sins, this is very much been
actually sorry, since the beginning of Last Stand
of the Wreckers, the story of the series has
essentially been children and their parents,
right? We started with Overlord. We went back
to it with Tarantulas and now we have the two
of them here and Springer and his unresolved
issues with Cup as well. And we close with Verity
seemingly going to see her parents who she kind
of ran away from her family way back. At the
very beginning of IDW's run. Infiltration. Infiltration,
yeah. The first arc of the entire franchise.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I love the last line from Springer.
That's just so great. But direct your past and
rule your future. Yep. Yeah. Just love that.
then obviously at the end of the book we have
all the behind -the -scenes stuff which I love
that they do this even in a one -shot I love
that they that they do this stuff because it's
so fun to see like like you were saying earlier
Amy you want to see the behind -the -scenes and
this that and the other thing and everything
else and that's what's so cool about them doing
that is they kind of give you a little glimpse
of the whole behind -the -scenes thing yeah Requiem
of the Wreckers, I really enjoyed it. I did kind
of have to go back and read the last, like, four
pages of Sins of the Last Issue of Sins to kind
of remind myself of some things, but other than
that, just reading this as a one -shot, I'm glad.
Now that I've read it, I'm glad they did it as
a one -shot, but like I said earlier, I thought
it was going to initially be like a four -issue
mini or five -issue mini to kind of... Give it
all a grand ending but this really does in one
issue or one and a half issues or two issues
Whatever you want to call it. It really does
give a great ending to the saga I feel like it
ends pretty much the way it should again a lot
of that's because there's next to no cast left
at this point true I Just I wonder I've I feel
like it would have been stretching it out if
they had tried to do five or six issues Yeah
You'd end up with a lot more kind of angsty Springer
out of it, and I don't think that's necessarily
a good thing. Actually, I know it's not a good
thing. No, it's not a good thing. No, they left
it in a really good positive light, which kind
of makes you feel hopeful for that he will maybe
find some sort of, I don't know, place in the
past, you know? Yep. Or at least find some peace
for himself or... Yeah. After everything that
I mean cuz he's at the beginning of this he's
still kind of reeling at the revelation of everything
Which is understandable who knows how long how
much time has gone by but Verity is definitely
the right person for him to be paired up with
Maybe he can go back in time and prevent the
IDW crossover. So Doesn't go into visionaries
issue one Don't open this letter don't open this
transmission until blah blah blah blah time don't
start a new mask series it'll get cancelled oops
too late darn it he failed shoot but no i absolutely
love this i thought this is great um art is interesting
on this because this is so different like that's
one thing about doing autobotly august the way
we're doing it this year folks we're covering
so many different books this month and so many
different parts of the IDW Transformers universe
that all of the art is so different and so cool
and so interesting. It's not just the same thing
over and over. You know, you've got Amy, Nicole,
and I doing the Windblade stuff with Tell All
Are One and Distant Stars and all that. Ryan
and I are doing Optimus Prime and Lost Light.
You know, and this is especially special, I think,
this final chapter. I think the reason why it's
just so satisfying is the fact that we've gotten
a backstory of all of the characters, too. I
mean, Verity's been around for the longest time,
pretty much since the first issue that we saw.
I mean, I think issue zero of the IDW run had
her in it. So it makes sense that since this
is kind of the wrap -up of the records and she's
kind of been tied with them, that it would have
a satisfying ending for her. Oh, yeah. That was
really I just I have to say I had a really hard
time getting through these two issues because
I've gotten emotional about other stuff before
but this one was just above and beyond I was
just like every single time I turned a page I
was like or you know the one panel that you have
Springer and Verity hugging I had a hard time
not crying at that because that was really really
good Yeah, it was All right. So we have to do
this because it's just the way it is. What would
you rate this Amy? I Would go five if I know
it's my sentimental side But there's you get
a wrap -up of the of the characters. There's
some finish to it You know It's just so good.
No, it's mostly in English. I didn't see any
finish What There's so much I want to say but
it really when it comes down to it's just it
was so satisfying it was so satisfying so It
was the story that I didn't think that we'd ever
get that I didn't know I wanted until I got it
and then I was like oh I'm glad we didn't end
it since I'm glad that we've been one one more
to issue arc here that gave us the last of it
I mean I will be happy every single time they
announce anything records. But this is a high
standard. Whatever they decide to do in IDW world
after this year, they have a high standard to
keep because this is pretty excellent. And if
it doesn't get to this level, I just won't like
it as much. What about you, Ryan? Five out of
five. If it was individually, I'd probably have
to rate it maybe a bit lower, but not much. The
sum of its parts is much greater than the individual
ones. Think of the three last stand is still
probably the best individual story, but that's
also a high -water mark I would say it's the
best individual trade of the Transformers Series
period IDW Marvel Marvel UK, whatever because
I own them all but I would definitely put it
at the top but as a trilogy that just works really
well. And I talked about it a little bit when
we did Lost Light Volume 1, that it's pretty
rare that you get an actual ending to comics.
It's happening more and more now as we see independent
books finish up. But the fact we got... a pretty
much self -contained trilogy with ridiculously
high quality overall is really impressive and
nice and yeah i can't give it anything less than
a five yeah same here five out of five i absolutely
loved it i thought it was fun i thought that
the story basically is the Best book end that
they could give it where it isn't wrapped up
all nice neat and little bow You do have a conflict
in this story. You do have an actual story here
with moving parts that are going on around springer
and all of that and Overlord and tarantulas and
everything else and you also have basically the
wrap -up with you know even though bots have
died you still have basically a Robot and his
phrase human friend basically, you know leaving
each other on great terms and you know hugging
it out You know, she's going back to where she
started with her parents, which is great. This
is probably one of if not the only Transformers
comic stories with humans in it that I actually
did not mind the human. Yeah. Well, that's because
she's a real person that has like, I mean, even
from the very beginning, she's been running away
from her life to go hang out with the Transformers.
I got the real sense of, this is a conversation
that both her and Springer have had a lot, because
you find they don't say it per se. Well, they
kind of hint at it. They just say, you know,
she would not, if they hadn't gotten the array,
they wouldn't have been able to find her tie
to her human life here. And the fact that Springer
gets kind of The only wrap -up that he's had
in his past with people he's connected to is
her. He didn't get a good wrap -up with anybody
else. And Packter's dead, Cup he didn't even
get to talk to, had to face Overlord again, got
his face, well, got knocked out, and now he's
putting himself in danger because he really cares
about Verity, and finally gets a wrap -up sort
of with... with the father he never really knew
who was kind of nuts. Yeah, proud. He just ignores.
I mean, there's there's no good wrap up for any
of his relationships. Let's let's just say that.
And it makes sense to me that, you know, he wants
the best for Verity and he's pushing. He's trying
to push her to say, hey, you should go do that
because I'm not going to get that. And I like
that. They're just kind of like the contrast
between the different characters and some of
the emotional fallout for some, and what other
characters go to because of that, it's just such
a really well -told story. What else to say?
I mean, we can sit here and gush for the next
couple hours over this. sister so many good things
about that all of the time well uh... that's
it uh... was that's hey how do you not know what
show you're on all my god anyway i'll say this
right now folks you know reiterate ryan and amy
are saying about the records saga about last
stand about sins and about wrecking yet i will
try to find input in the in the description of
the episode of if it's out yet The Wrecker's
Saga. It's coming. It's available. Oh, it is?
Okay. I'm pretty sure that it's available. I
think they have. I think it was just last month
that they came out with it. Okay. So basically,
instead of buying Last Dan's Sins and Requiem
by themselves, just get the full, quote -unquote,
omnibus of all three of these cards. It came
out July 31st in paper, right? That's right.
Yep. There you go. That's right, yeah. So I will
put that in the show notes, folks. You can go
check that out on Comixology. Transformers, The
Wreckers Saga, Last Stand, Sins, and Requiem
of the Wreckers. Last Stand of the Wreckers,
Sins of the Wreckers, and Requiem of the Wreckers.
The Transformers Wreckers Saga is available on
Comixology right now. Best of the Wreckers, Dining
with the Wreckers. It collects how to lose a
record in ten dates For a minute there I thought
he said how to lose a Rebecca in ten dates or
less no that unfortunately took me seven years
It's a bad inside joke that no one's gonna get
folks lawsuits and all now that was somebody
else Anyway, Amy we're gonna be will find you
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That's me one and only I am at night beats. I'm
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Autobotly August, we've got the Fembots back
with me to talk about Transformers till all are
one, volume two. Wonder what that old married
couple Starscream and Windblade will be up to
now I thought you were gonna say Starscream and
Blitzwing because we all know they're the same
person apparently apparently yeah, no Is Blitzwing
even still around in the I don't even know in
IDW. He was dismantled by Venom or Venom who
did mask fight against Venom yeah, okay, so yeah,
he got dismantled by Venom for their vehicles
That was his last appearance Darn as depressed.
Why do I know all this stuff off the tongue of
my head? What is wrong with me? Anyway, there's
nothing wrong with you. You just have a really
good memory Whatever you say Jeff so until next
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