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Transformers: Requiem of the Wreckers Review

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About this Episode

The crew discusses the final installment of the Wreckers trilogy from IDW Publishing. They explore the emotional closure for characters like Springer and Verity, the standout artwork by Nick Roche, Jeff Senior, and Brendan Cahill, and the significance of the Wreckers Saga as a whole. The episode also highlights the dynamic between Overlord and Tarantulas, the impact of Cup's absence, and the series' legacy as a high-quality, self-contained story.

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for you to enjoy. Okay, well, I knew that was

coming. That's a really big cast. For those of

you that don't know this, here on my right, Twin

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Topspin. My name's Springer, and I'm in charge.

That's one way to wreck a childhood, right? Speaking

of wrecking, all right. Autobotly August 2018

continues as we talk about Transformers Requiem

of the Wreckers. You can't talk Wreckers without

the Lady Wreck being here. Everyone say hello

to Amy. Good to be here. Yes, yes, yes. It's

clobber time. Oh god. Joining us also is Ryan

even flow Merkley aka nightbeat who apparently

died already. I don't know Wow, you guess you

get a super cheerful. She gets a super cheerful

intro of mine's like oh also Ryan's here Well,

I couldn't find anything Uh, we are back for

another week of Transformers comic goodness here

inside the pull bag on all things Transformers.

This is episode 321 of TPB and I am of course

TF2 and Mike. Today we explore the final story

of the Wreckers Saga. And I will say this right

now folks. You all should have read Walking Dead

issue number 202 for this. Well, OK, then I'll

say this right now, folks. You all better listen

to the entire podcast because there's going to

be a special guest at the end of the episode.

Wait, I thought you were going to say because

there's going to be a quiz at the end. OK, wait

a second. There's a special guest. So obviously,

you didn't even tell us. Yeah, it's obviously

not me because he gave me the shitty intro. You'll

just have to listen to it when it goes online.

It's a it's a special add -in piece. Okay, no

deal What is no deal? I don't like hearing my

own voice in person much less on the podcast

You can skip to the end. You don't like like

I will give you the timestamp like if I like

if I owned a podcast I wouldn't actually have

me on it. Then I'd have to listen to me and that's

a problem I'm just saying. Well, I have to listen

to you all the time when I edit, so it's like,

that's even a bigger problem for me at this point.

Yeah, but I'm hilarious to you, at least. Yeah,

that's true. How many podcasts have you been

on, Ryan? I don't know. It's been a lot now.

Yeah. I was going to say, yeah. Of course, you've

known that you had to edit, right? Hey, do you

think? Hey, do you think you could get, oh no,

I used to edit TFY and some of the other ones.

Hey Amy, do you think you could get me a guest

gig on some other shows? Get my name out there?

I don't know. Come on, have your people talk

to my people. Yeah, my people is usually just

me. Well then you talk to you later. Talk to

me later. See what I can do. I'll see what I

can do. All right. So Requiem of the Wreckers.

One thing I want to point out. Wait, wait, wait.

Stop, stop, stop. You're ruining my whole thing

here. Fine. This is what friends are supposed

to do. They ruin everything. Exactly. Just like

Michael Bay. Uh, Requiem of the Wreckers, wreck

and rule. They've been beaten up, torn apart,

betrayed, and had their sins revealed. The few

remaining Wreckers are more lost and lonelier

than they've ever been, which makes it the perfect

time for them to come under fire from an anti

-Cybertronian campaigner and an old foe. Remember

them fondly, because this is the Requiem of the

Wreckers. Yeah, that's the back of the issue,

I mean. Oh, shit. I'm just trying to be helpful,

you know. All right. If I had my passport, I

would come up there and beat the living crap

out of you. That's fine. I just have you detained

at the border. So one thing I want to point out,

the art duties on this, like before we start,

are split up significantly. So it was written

by and then some of the arts done by Nick Roche

Unsurprisingly what I thought was really neat

they get Jeff senior who longtime transformer

fans will recognize from the generation one UK

days and the tail end of Marvel US As well as

they get Brandon Cahill back who is one of IDW's

many excellent people But the art in this is

fantastic, and I want to point out I want to

point out that each one of them has different

pages and different segments to do to in this.

So I mean, Senior does the flashbacks, which

look perfect, especially if you're a longtime

fan of Transformer comics. And then Roach and

Cale are just fantastic. So like most of the

IDW stuff, I feel like a broken record, but the

art is amazing in all of their books. Yeah, it

is. I agree. They have to do top -notch work.

We demand a lot. Well, it seems like everybody

they find, right? So, you know, Cahill... There

have been a few over the years that have been

kind of a few missteps, but... Yeah, but especially

recently, though, I mean, Cahill, I hadn't really

heard of before his transformer work, and I like

him. I knew Jack Lawrence from... He did some

really old work for Marvel in comics that were

pack -ins with pewter figures, including the

Punisher. So I knew his work, but he has knocked

it out of the park, especially recently on Lost

Light. And then there's people like Key Zama,

who was just a... I shouldn't say just, sorry.

Oof, that was a really dumb way to say things.

Anyway, she had done... fan or deviant art work

for Transformers before this and just was enamored.

Now she was enamored with Last Stand of the Wreckers,

which is the first part of this trilogy we're

talking about. And she just kind of got signed

on and does amazing work. So, yeah, yeah, you're

right. She's just amazing. So. Yeah. And running

out this group, Tom B. Long is one of the letterers.

I have nothing more to say about him. He is the

best in the business. And Sean Lee as well who

does. Yeah. And Sean Lee is the lead, but it's

also like he's also excellent. So. Yeah, on Lee

as far I know he does other stuff at IDW But

mainly where I know his name from is the TMNT

books and yeah I think he letters almost all

of the main ongoing for TMNT unless it's some

sort of special thing or something amazing amazing

work There's not enough love out there for letters.

Good job guys So who's gonna go first jeez, I

don't know Did we mention the two Josh's on colors?

Amy's talked to them before. That's true, yeah.

I've talked to almost everybody on this list.

You kidding? Except the letters, unfortunately,

because I just haven't had a chance to be at

a convention where they were at, dog on it. Yeah.

Two more. I don't really have more to say about.

Josh Vircham is incredible. Yeah. Yeah. And Josh

Perez has, I know Perez, I can't remember when

else he does, but I know most, I know his Transformers

work obviously, which is quite good, so. Yeah.

All right, so. Now my mind is blank, I can't

remember the other stuff that Josh is doing too,

but he's, just follow him on Twitter and he's

got stuff. Yeah, I feel bad. Yeah, he's got stuff

that he, he's always doing stuff, so. He's always

doing stuff that is That is base. I'm sure that's

gonna be the next intro Blanchard gives me on

a podcast and he's always doing stuff. It's Ryan

Well dog on it, let me hop over to is So anyway

This is part three of the record saga we started

with last stand of the records as mentioned in

the intro by Mike they Preface it with that and

they also bring up their sins which of course

sins of the records which was part two which

introduced tarantulas and the concept of Springer

as the son of tarantulas essentially And we're

now on to Requiem of the Wreckers, which if you've

read the first two, then you know the cast is

a little bit smaller at this point. Yeah. And

if you have not read the first two, if you haven't

read the first two, I can't recommend Last Stand

of the Wreckers enough. It is a terrific jumping

on point for IDW books and a great lead in to

Death of Optimus Prime, which is the launching

point for More Than Meets the Eye, Robots in

Disguise, and all the other books that are still

running, slash finishing up. But these are really

good individual standalone stories. Even if you're

unfamiliar with a lot of the Transformers and

the IDW stuff, I recommend these heavily, as

well as the Not as much standalone, but the Dinobots

trilogy as well. It's quite good, but this works

very much as a standalone. You don't really need

to know anything about the universe. Yeah, no.

This is just, you know, the wreckers and their

adventures and it's so great. I actually thought...

When this was first announced or first shown

off whenever that happened, I forget off the

top of my head That I thought this was gonna

be another five issue series or something like

sins was I was hoping I knew wasn't yeah I saw

it. I'm like, oh, it's just a one -shot really

well like two issues shot actually Yeah, it's

a little larger. So yeah, it's larger than normal

issues. And yeah, I'll point out now to the Josh

Perez works on Mega Man, which is also for. Oh,

yeah, that's right. Yeah. I'm glad you saw that.

Yeah. Mega Man. My favorite of all the. No, anyway.

So, yeah, the price tag for this one's a little

higher. Don't be fooled. The trade the trade

issue was seven ninety nine up here. Yeah, that

sounds about right. Yeah. No, it wasn't. It was

even more expensive up here. Whatever. Anyway,

nobody cares about my problems with pricing.

So yeah, this ended up being basically a two

shot or probably a little longer because there's

no ads than most of IDW's other work. Yeah, but

it also makes sense that this isn't the full

series because to be blunt There's so few of

the cast members remaining that it's not tough

to focus on everybody in one issue Other than

just the three pages in the back that had like

the the notes and stuff from from Nick No, I'm

looking at it now and I just I think there's

three pages. Yeah, it's just the three pages

of notes from Nick. There were no other actual

ads On Comixology, it was originally listed at

$4 .99 here in the States, and now apparently

it's still on sale for $3 .99. Nice. Yeah, there's

the usual IDW ads in the back, but I don't really

count them. It's not the same as the Marvel or

DC stuff where they break it up. Yeah, and IDW

is not a company that will put ads in the middle

of books at all. Thank heavens, because it's

really frustrating when they do that. I hate

that. They don't do that. In IDW, you're not

going to get that problem. It's not going to

be an interruption in the middle of your book.

I mean, that's only in the print issues that

that happens, like the digital issues. I don't

think Marvel in DC does that either, because

I've been reading the new Tony Stark Iron Man,

and I've been reading a couple other things.

So digitally, they don't. Print -wise, they do.

I have, like, I just, I can't do print anymore.

Yeah. Just can't. So yeah, we start out with

Verity and Springer and... I don't know if it's

the lighting or what the deal is, but Springer

looks a little differently colored at this point.

It's the mood lighting. Yeah, they're in hiding

and that's the whole sort of point. So previous

two Sins of the Wreckers, Verity and Springer

have stayed on Earth and they just kind of monitor

what's going on. despite the fact that Springer

in particular didn't really want to. Yeah. But

they've just learned that and this is from a

spoiler for Transformers versus visionaries,

apparently issue one, which came out of left

field. But I knew it had happened. They learned

of the death of Cup, which affects both of them.

Cup was Springer's real father, essentially.

I know I mentioned that. The guy that pretty

much raised him. Yeah. So it affects him. Verity

was fairly close to Cup, despite Cup's near constant

verbal abuse towards her. He legitimately cared

about her. Yeah. That's probably why. It's like,

you know, when you're a kid and you tease the

person that you like, you know? Yeah, and we

get flashbacks that show the relationship between

Cup and Springer. It should be noted, I think,

well, not I think, when we did our review on

Optimus Prime Volume 1, I talked about that the

flashbacks seemed fairly intrusive at points.

They're not in this book. They're not here. Well,

they were. This is the first time I have not

had an issue with the Transformers flashbacks.

Well, they also set the mood really well to what's

going on at the moment. And I found some of the

Optimus Prime stuff was just sort of in there

to get through certain storytelling pieces, which

again, I have a real hard time. knocking it because

Barbara does such a good job with that. But I

read this and see how the flashbacks are used

by Roach and it's really well done. It feels

like it slides right in when you need it and

goes right out when you're done. I mean, it's

really seamless. Anyway, we get back to the issue

Okay, so with the flashback part of this that

the first part is it just me or does cup look

like he's on his last? back to Spotlight cup

where yeah He had the super old looking body

that was broken down and he refused to upgrade

to a new one like everybody else Well, that makes

sense for the continuity of it too, because this

is supposed to be in the past, you know Yeah,

speaking that works really great for his character

didn't really get the upgrades until after this

Yeah, so it's a callback to yeah, it's a callback

to that and good continuity Very very doesn't

like that. There's no chapter mode obviously

They can't exactly fly around. Well, they're

supposed to be in cover, under cover. Yeah, exactly.

A little too inconspicuous there, right? Yeah.

This gas station scene is just too much. I just

like... I know Transformers need gas and all

that, but it just seems... Oh, they didn't stop

for him, they stopped for her. Yeah. Right, no,

I know, but I'm just saying that... the whole

thing with them at the gas station, just that

whole concept. Just seeing Springer in his alt

mode in front of a gas pump is just like, wow,

it's cool. Springer then gets nabbed. Yeah. Well,

Verity is not with them and we've got some problems

now. Oh, yeah. And Springer disappears for a

bit. However, we sort of move forward to a human's

first rally. Jeez, who does that remind me of?

Well, anyway. Springer shows up and tries to

kill the speaker, which is a bit odd and out

of character for Springer. And we discover that...

That sounds something that Impactor might do.

Hmm we and we just we discover that one of our

springers favorite good friends is Masquerading

as a anti -robot Politician It's overlord, you

know somebody else can fill this in jeez I Was

extremely happy to see him again. I love pretty

much all of overlord's appearances. Yeah Uh,

there's a piece of me that's a little sad that

Roberts doesn't get the last word on him, but

on the other hand, uh, Roche is the one that

brought him into prominence, so it's only fair.

Yeah. Yeah. But in any case, uh, so everybody

confronts Overlord. Uh, that goes about as well

as you think. Actually, I think it's the other

way around. I think he confronts everybody else.

Oh, yeah. But, yeah. At this point, I'd be like,

we're about made! Carnivax, yeah, a group of

mayhem thinks it's a great idea to attack him,

which, for anyone who doesn't know, Overlord

is a phase sixer in the Transformers universe,

and is essentially unbeatable. Except for Lester

Megatron, right? Yeah, so, well, whatever. Get

into that a little bit. Megatron, to be fair,

one -on -one is a pretty bad pretty bad dude

uh so yeah he mauls the mayhem's off panel and

then just takes off with verity yep um i love

the art in these panels i think that is super

cool um this like it's it's been a year since

we did sins i think or so i forget when like

It's been a while. I wish they've like I Understand

things happen in people's lives and things like

that But if they're gonna do like this trilogy

like I knew it was a while between last stand

and sins but they did have to be so long between

sins and this because Yeah, cuz a lot of stuff

happened. Yeah No, my point is that I think it

had to because there's a lot of other stuff and

other characters going on like I mentioned overlord

and they pretty much had to have the Reckoning

slash meeting of Megatron the Autobots and overlord

before this Right. Yeah, as well as some of the

other stuff that was just set up not to mention

the things with cup I mean, I think it ended

up making this book stronger that cup was gone

which disturbs me to say, because I love the

character, but anyway, go ahead. I kind of want

to say that I think, and maybe I'm really not

sure, maybe it'd be a good time for me to, you

know, somebody ask Nick or whatever, because

it seems like this was announced, this book was

announced, and then like a month later we also

found out that things were also going to be wrapped,

that they were going to wrap things up. So I

kind of get the sense that The reason why he

wrote it to issue is because he knew it was going

to wrap up, and this was his opportunity to wrap

things up, the story that he had started, knowing

that this might be the end of the last time he's

going to get a chance to do that. Yeah, so why

don't you just call your best buddy Nick? I mean,

I obviously can't. I'm not even important enough

to get a decent intro, but. Stop. Geez. That's

all you, Mike. That's all you. I'm not going

to touch that one. No, it would just be interesting

to be a fly on the wall to see how some of this

stuff kind of unfolded, you know, how long, you

know, from the time that he was told, hey, guess

what, we're wrapping things up to the point,

you know, to the time where he said, OK, you

know, this is this is what I came up with for

the wrap up for the records. I just wonder about

some of that, you know, how that time line goes.

It's quite interesting. And speaking of which,

we get a little bit of closure on Carnivac and

his squad in the next page, who are now all deceased.

But anyway, Impactor. Till all are dead. Yeah,

basically. So Impactor picks up Springer at this

point. Overlord brings Verity back to see the

guy who's pulling all the strings. Tarantulas,

yeah. Yep. Nice touch, by the way, that now granted

they mentioned it later on in the book, but Tarantulas

was the spider we saw at the end of Sins of the

Wreckers. So he was, you know, keeping tabs on

everybody the whole time. I thought that was

a nice touch that they answered that question.

Same with, I mean, previously it was Streetwise

at the end of Last Stand. And that was confirmed

in Requiem, or Sins, but this is Requiem. What

I love about this is when they go to basically

give the origin of how Springer joined the records,

I think that's cool. with him and Impactor and

all that, that's fun. I love the art on the page

where he's like, do you know how violated you

feel after your body is forced to change from

one mode to another? And his new power, like

the way that the art's done on Springer's face,

I'm like, wow, I've never seen that character

look that way before, that's kinda cool. And

we also get to my favorite parts in all in these

are in both these issues and this book and that

is the delightful interplay between overlord

and tarantulas I love overlord and tarantulas

is a moron for working with him because The inevitable

occurs I mean as soon as you saw Overlord and

found he was working for somebody, you knew whoever

that was was gonna die. He's not the most stable

guy. Yeah, but you also have to look at the fact

that Tarantulas has been pretty much working

on his own for so long, he doesn't make the best

decisions. Overlord's a terrible employee, though.

I mean, he pretty much always... He's gonna totally

go postal on you. Yeah, he's gonna kill the boss

or try to kill the boss at some point. That's

really his MO. And much like... He'll tolerate

you to a point until it does not further his

means anymore and then that's it. All deals are

off. Much like his appearance in... the final

act of More Than Meets the Eye, where he teams

up and then completely undermines Tarn and the

DJD, which was delightful. He does the same here,

but not quite yet. We get another flashback to...

Well, actually, yeah, this is the flashback Mike

mentioned. And we jump to Springer is displeased

with Impactor. Surprise, surprise. This is the

best scene. I really like this. It's like, hey,

punch him in the face. Yeah. So Impactor took

him, picked him up and took him to the mayhem

HQ to basically fix him because he got knocked

pretty good. He was the only survivor of the

little smackdown between Overlord and the Mayhem

squad. Only because he didn't attack, because

he was brainwashed. Yeah, pretty much. He's just

like, ah, Overlord, yeah, boom. Knock to the

face and you're out for the count. So then we

jump to, we finally get Tarantulas' plan, which

is to go back in time and nudge events. And we

find out why Overlord was working for him, which

is to go back in time and try to beat the shit

out of Megatron again. Yep. Yeah, because he's

singularly focused on that. And seeing as how

the one that's in this time is not worthy, you've

got to go back in time to the one where he was

actually worthy, right? Yeah, to try to kill

him. And this is where the inevitable falling

out happens. I'm with Verity on this one. I think

it's hilarious that. Yeah, I mean, they're both

completely two sides of the coin. They're both

completely consumed with one person, but in very

different ways. And Overlord's focus has always

been even more unhealthy that Overlord's focus

is just unhealthy to everybody around him because

he's the strongest being in all of IDW, seemingly.

Pretty much. Yeah. One of them. Yeah. I mean,

he's a walking planet destroyer, so... Yeah.

Yeah. So that goes about as well as you'd think

for Tarantulas here. He gets roughed up. Yeah.

Overlord gets roughed up pretty good, too. Because

Impactor's like, damn it, I was trying to get

the same eye as last time. Well, he gets him

in the eye again, but... He just kind of shrugs

it off, as usual. Oh, yeah. And an Overlord can

sustain some pretty major damage. But yeah, Impactor

and Springer intervene. They fight. It does not

go particularly well. No. The Springer and Impactor

end up separated from everybody. Yep. Taking

on Overlord by themselves, yeah? Yeah, great

idea there. We got more flashbacks to another

personal favorite character, which is prowl the

prick At least he's not flipping tables in this

issue. No, that's true. They should have found

a way to throw that in all right and I really

like so the next sequence is a Reimagining reverse

role of what we were told happened on pova which

was Impactor fires through Springer to take the

Decepticon mayhem by surprise. Here we have the

reverse. Springer fires through Impactor, killing

him in order to stun Overlord. And by stun, I

mean, it basically just knocks him off his feet

and he gets back up anyway. It doesn't do too

much other than knocks him out of the way for

a bit and gives him a few seconds more to run.

Yeah, that's pretty much the most anyone's ever

done to the guy. I mean, Fort Max pummeling him

when he was incapacitated. Even that just brought

him down to a knee. So it takes a lot to hurt

the guy. However, we learn what Springer's plan

is here, which is really smart, might I add.

Probably the one few things that they could do

to stop Overlord, to be honest. Yeah, with Karnavak's

help, they force Overlord to transform. Now,

for anybody who doesn't know this, Overlord in

Generation 1 and actually in every toy since

then, he splits into two pieces. The top piece

is a jet. The bottom part is a tank. And Verity

working the controls and Springer using the portals

throws his jet mode into the future. And his

tank mode into the past. Into the past. Yep.

Which by the way, could he survive that? I always

wonder about this. I'm not sure though, because

I mean, if his tank mode just sort of hangs out,

won't his jet mode eventually... Don't know he's

really tough. So yeah, but you're also talking

about it's not just they're not just two different

places They're also in two different times. Yeah,

there's only so far. I mean, I my guess is that

you get so far it just It snaps like he's he's

half the man. He's half the body used to be Yeah,

like quite literally. I mean they quite literally

Yeah, they quite literally time jumped him lengthways.

Yeah. The other thing right before that happens

is Verity goes and takes some money for herself.

Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. The hacking on

the terminal. Yes. I love the the end bits of

this i'm not the biggest tarantulas fan in the

world but this was really cool the um the goodbye

between him and springer oh i've always had to

see a prowls though i mean the whole reason why

you didn't go look for springer to begin with

was because he was told that springer was dead

and so it's kind of like you don't know it just

kind of He feels bad, because you're like, hey,

it's like the kid that I never knew I had, but

I had, but I'm, yeah, so it's very... I've said

it before, all of the IDW universe boils down

to decisions and strings being pulled by either

Prowl or Shockwave. They are literally the two

most important characters in all of the IDW universes.

It always comes down to them, so Yeah, we go

to the touching moment between Verity and Springer

So there's that yeah, so Springer decides to

go back to the past in an attempt to kind of

Fix yeah nudge things into a better Place and

have to be wreckers. There would have to be records.

Yeah And I guess we'll never know if he succeeded

or not, which is fine I think it's an excellent

ending for the Wreckers in general. He's the

last member left. There are former members kicking

around like world, but they're few and far between

He got kicked out. Yeah, we're trying to kill

Springer. Yeah No, was it? Was it? Oh, yeah,

you're right. It was Springer. That's right.

Try to give them a spark eater. Zero point. That's

right. OK, gotcha. But yeah, so. Yeah, and we

close with so since sins, this is very much been

actually sorry, since the beginning of Last Stand

of the Wreckers, the story of the series has

essentially been children and their parents,

right? We started with Overlord. We went back

to it with Tarantulas and now we have the two

of them here and Springer and his unresolved

issues with Cup as well. And we close with Verity

seemingly going to see her parents who she kind

of ran away from her family way back. At the

very beginning of IDW's run. Infiltration. Infiltration,

yeah. The first arc of the entire franchise.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. I love the last line from Springer.

That's just so great. But direct your past and

rule your future. Yep. Yeah. Just love that.

then obviously at the end of the book we have

all the behind -the -scenes stuff which I love

that they do this even in a one -shot I love

that they that they do this stuff because it's

so fun to see like like you were saying earlier

Amy you want to see the behind -the -scenes and

this that and the other thing and everything

else and that's what's so cool about them doing

that is they kind of give you a little glimpse

of the whole behind -the -scenes thing yeah Requiem

of the Wreckers, I really enjoyed it. I did kind

of have to go back and read the last, like, four

pages of Sins of the Last Issue of Sins to kind

of remind myself of some things, but other than

that, just reading this as a one -shot, I'm glad.

Now that I've read it, I'm glad they did it as

a one -shot, but like I said earlier, I thought

it was going to initially be like a four -issue

mini or five -issue mini to kind of... Give it

all a grand ending but this really does in one

issue or one and a half issues or two issues

Whatever you want to call it. It really does

give a great ending to the saga I feel like it

ends pretty much the way it should again a lot

of that's because there's next to no cast left

at this point true I Just I wonder I've I feel

like it would have been stretching it out if

they had tried to do five or six issues Yeah

You'd end up with a lot more kind of angsty Springer

out of it, and I don't think that's necessarily

a good thing. Actually, I know it's not a good

thing. No, it's not a good thing. No, they left

it in a really good positive light, which kind

of makes you feel hopeful for that he will maybe

find some sort of, I don't know, place in the

past, you know? Yep. Or at least find some peace

for himself or... Yeah. After everything that

I mean cuz he's at the beginning of this he's

still kind of reeling at the revelation of everything

Which is understandable who knows how long how

much time has gone by but Verity is definitely

the right person for him to be paired up with

Maybe he can go back in time and prevent the

IDW crossover. So Doesn't go into visionaries

issue one Don't open this letter don't open this

transmission until blah blah blah blah time don't

start a new mask series it'll get cancelled oops

too late darn it he failed shoot but no i absolutely

love this i thought this is great um art is interesting

on this because this is so different like that's

one thing about doing autobotly august the way

we're doing it this year folks we're covering

so many different books this month and so many

different parts of the IDW Transformers universe

that all of the art is so different and so cool

and so interesting. It's not just the same thing

over and over. You know, you've got Amy, Nicole,

and I doing the Windblade stuff with Tell All

Are One and Distant Stars and all that. Ryan

and I are doing Optimus Prime and Lost Light.

You know, and this is especially special, I think,

this final chapter. I think the reason why it's

just so satisfying is the fact that we've gotten

a backstory of all of the characters, too. I

mean, Verity's been around for the longest time,

pretty much since the first issue that we saw.

I mean, I think issue zero of the IDW run had

her in it. So it makes sense that since this

is kind of the wrap -up of the records and she's

kind of been tied with them, that it would have

a satisfying ending for her. Oh, yeah. That was

really I just I have to say I had a really hard

time getting through these two issues because

I've gotten emotional about other stuff before

but this one was just above and beyond I was

just like every single time I turned a page I

was like or you know the one panel that you have

Springer and Verity hugging I had a hard time

not crying at that because that was really really

good Yeah, it was All right. So we have to do

this because it's just the way it is. What would

you rate this Amy? I Would go five if I know

it's my sentimental side But there's you get

a wrap -up of the of the characters. There's

some finish to it You know It's just so good.

No, it's mostly in English. I didn't see any

finish What There's so much I want to say but

it really when it comes down to it's just it

was so satisfying it was so satisfying so It

was the story that I didn't think that we'd ever

get that I didn't know I wanted until I got it

and then I was like oh I'm glad we didn't end

it since I'm glad that we've been one one more

to issue arc here that gave us the last of it

I mean I will be happy every single time they

announce anything records. But this is a high

standard. Whatever they decide to do in IDW world

after this year, they have a high standard to

keep because this is pretty excellent. And if

it doesn't get to this level, I just won't like

it as much. What about you, Ryan? Five out of

five. If it was individually, I'd probably have

to rate it maybe a bit lower, but not much. The

sum of its parts is much greater than the individual

ones. Think of the three last stand is still

probably the best individual story, but that's

also a high -water mark I would say it's the

best individual trade of the Transformers Series

period IDW Marvel Marvel UK, whatever because

I own them all but I would definitely put it

at the top but as a trilogy that just works really

well. And I talked about it a little bit when

we did Lost Light Volume 1, that it's pretty

rare that you get an actual ending to comics.

It's happening more and more now as we see independent

books finish up. But the fact we got... a pretty

much self -contained trilogy with ridiculously

high quality overall is really impressive and

nice and yeah i can't give it anything less than

a five yeah same here five out of five i absolutely

loved it i thought it was fun i thought that

the story basically is the Best book end that

they could give it where it isn't wrapped up

all nice neat and little bow You do have a conflict

in this story. You do have an actual story here

with moving parts that are going on around springer

and all of that and Overlord and tarantulas and

everything else and you also have basically the

wrap -up with you know even though bots have

died you still have basically a Robot and his

phrase human friend basically, you know leaving

each other on great terms and you know hugging

it out You know, she's going back to where she

started with her parents, which is great. This

is probably one of if not the only Transformers

comic stories with humans in it that I actually

did not mind the human. Yeah. Well, that's because

she's a real person that has like, I mean, even

from the very beginning, she's been running away

from her life to go hang out with the Transformers.

I got the real sense of, this is a conversation

that both her and Springer have had a lot, because

you find they don't say it per se. Well, they

kind of hint at it. They just say, you know,

she would not, if they hadn't gotten the array,

they wouldn't have been able to find her tie

to her human life here. And the fact that Springer

gets kind of The only wrap -up that he's had

in his past with people he's connected to is

her. He didn't get a good wrap -up with anybody

else. And Packter's dead, Cup he didn't even

get to talk to, had to face Overlord again, got

his face, well, got knocked out, and now he's

putting himself in danger because he really cares

about Verity, and finally gets a wrap -up sort

of with... with the father he never really knew

who was kind of nuts. Yeah, proud. He just ignores.

I mean, there's there's no good wrap up for any

of his relationships. Let's let's just say that.

And it makes sense to me that, you know, he wants

the best for Verity and he's pushing. He's trying

to push her to say, hey, you should go do that

because I'm not going to get that. And I like

that. They're just kind of like the contrast

between the different characters and some of

the emotional fallout for some, and what other

characters go to because of that, it's just such

a really well -told story. What else to say?

I mean, we can sit here and gush for the next

couple hours over this. sister so many good things

about that all of the time well uh... that's

it uh... was that's hey how do you not know what

show you're on all my god anyway i'll say this

right now folks you know reiterate ryan and amy

are saying about the records saga about last

stand about sins and about wrecking yet i will

try to find input in the in the description of

the episode of if it's out yet The Wrecker's

Saga. It's coming. It's available. Oh, it is?

Okay. I'm pretty sure that it's available. I

think they have. I think it was just last month

that they came out with it. Okay. So basically,

instead of buying Last Dan's Sins and Requiem

by themselves, just get the full, quote -unquote,

omnibus of all three of these cards. It came

out July 31st in paper, right? That's right.

Yep. There you go. That's right, yeah. So I will

put that in the show notes, folks. You can go

check that out on Comixology. Transformers, The

Wreckers Saga, Last Stand, Sins, and Requiem

of the Wreckers. Last Stand of the Wreckers,

Sins of the Wreckers, and Requiem of the Wreckers.

The Transformers Wreckers Saga is available on

Comixology right now. Best of the Wreckers, Dining

with the Wreckers. It collects how to lose a

record in ten dates For a minute there I thought

he said how to lose a Rebecca in ten dates or

less no that unfortunately took me seven years

It's a bad inside joke that no one's gonna get

folks lawsuits and all now that was somebody

else Anyway, Amy we're gonna be will find you

online. You can find me on Twitter lady of rack.

That's me one and only I am at night beats. I'm

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Autobotly August, we've got the Fembots back

with me to talk about Transformers till all are

one, volume two. Wonder what that old married

couple Starscream and Windblade will be up to

now I thought you were gonna say Starscream and

Blitzwing because we all know they're the same

person apparently apparently yeah, no Is Blitzwing

even still around in the I don't even know in

IDW. He was dismantled by Venom or Venom who

did mask fight against Venom yeah, okay, so yeah,

he got dismantled by Venom for their vehicles

That was his last appearance Darn as depressed.

Why do I know all this stuff off the tongue of

my head? What is wrong with me? Anyway, there's

nothing wrong with you. You just have a really

good memory Whatever you say Jeff so until next

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