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Michael. Hey, how's it going? And Kevin optimus

solo greetings? Holy crap when the hell was the

last time you were on all things transformers

episode? It was the early reboot Yeah, it didn't

have to be at least a year and a half or two

years ago. I only come when certain topics beckon

me. Yeah God, that's way too much information.

I'm actually topless right now. I thought that's

what we were supposed to do. Secretly, the audience

doesn't know this. Secretly, we're all podcasting

without pants. The thing with the camera is not

on us. I just got done with the camera. We were

doing the ten bottom. Bottomless. Bottomless.

Hold on. Let me turn my camera on. Hold on. Oh

God, no. Don't even try it. Yes. Excellent. Yes.

What are we doing again? I can't remember. Damn.

Steve, how did you go about making your list?

I went backwards from one and went backwards

again. I took every character I like from every

series and then I did a I Well, I voted on my

own characters and then I had them fight in their

own version of GCR and wars and then I came up

with my top ten And when we get to it later how

many honorable mentions do you have I have 47

I'm joking The answer is 42. I don't know why

but it's just there Okay, Kev, how did you go

about making your list? Well, I went through

every... Well, that's a lie. We all know you

went through every G1 character only. No, I opened

up the G1 page at Behind the Voice Actors and

I went one by one scrolling through every single

character and wrote down any that I just generally

like. Then I went to Beast Wars and did the same

thing, and Beast Machines and did the same thing,

and Transformers Animated and attempted to do

the same thing, and Transformers Prime, and let's

see what else did I hit. I didn't need to go

to the animated movie because they're all in

G1. I apologize, I skipped the Unicron trilogy

as well as the Michael Bay movies. didn't factor

and I also skipped rescue bots because I've never

seen an episode so I can't really factor that

in. It'd be just pure ignorance. So then once

I had my list of characters I liked from the

various shows I started an impossible task of

trying to narrow it down. I kind of went through

and picked like the sure things that are definitely

going to be in the list and then there was a

whole bunch of gray area. I had like 25 characters

and I was trying to get it down to 10 and I guess

I somehow managed to do that. Now, I will say,

just for the listener's sake, that there was

a bit of confusion between the last episode and

this episode, because at the end of the last

episode, off air, Michael said, so if we're doing

the top 10 characters from all generations, that

just means number 10 is Starscream, number 9

is Starscream, number 8 is Starscream. Like,

no. Pick one character from one generation, one

version of that character. Michael, how did you

go about making your list? Hold on, I need to

redo my list real quick. Yeah, yeah, do mine

too. I'm just kidding. Shit, I knew there was

a reason why I couldn't be on this episode. Turn

it around. Actually, I just started thinking

about who my favorite characters were and from

which series and just wrote them down and then

we didn't start. When we were supposed to start

so they gave me an extra ten minutes actually

put them in order And that worked out for me

and now that you mention it I actually have One

character listed twice from two different series

So but but I'm gonna stick to my guns. Yeah,

I'm gonna stick to my guns here. I have a specific

reason for predicting this character What I've

done for mine, I only have... Let me see here.

I only have two characters on here that are from

two different series, but they're essentially

kind of the same character. They're both Megatron.

No. No? They're both Optimus Prime? They're Transformers

without sparks. Okay, so there are several things

that I think we can all agree on. Oh wow, hold

on. What did you just say? There are several

things I think all of us can agree on. He's a

fellowship. Nightscream is not on anybody's list.

Whoa. Alright. Was he on yours? Uh, not anymore.

There are not gonna be any Bayformer characters

in any of our lists. Uh, let's see, as Kevin

already said, Unicron Trilogy doesn't count.

I mean it counts, I just don't have any characters

from it. It counts. It counts. Rescue Bots counts

more than Unicron Trilogy does. You know what's

terrible? I love Rescue Bots, I really do. And

you have no Rescue Bot characters, do you? No,

I don't have any Rescue Bot characters in my

list. And Mari would be so disappointed in you.

Well, I know, but it's like... It's a kid's show.

I've got like, I've got... G1 characters that

I've loved since I was 11 and then boulder, you

know It's like sorry boulder. He didn't make

the cut buddy Epic fail I'll have to apologize

to him later. Sorry, buddy didn't make the cut

All right, we are gonna take a quick break you're

gonna hear some character selections and then

we'll come back with the top ten after this I

got better things to do tonight than die. I thought

you were made of sterner stuff. It isn't even

dead yet. Oh shit, what are we gonna do now?

We're being sucked into it! Oh, how it pains

me to do this! Looptie loop, huh? You have some

brass bearings, Bumblebee! I love when a plan

comes together! Destroy them! Now where's the

fun in that? As a torment, I think. First, yes!

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are back and it is time for the top ten. We will

be doing the honorable mentions at the end of

the show because apparently Optimus Solo said

it gives things away out of our list. I don't

see how, but... Steve what is your number 10

favorite Transformers character? Well this week's

version is Generation one iron hide the reasoning

I think I like this character so much is because

Well one I dig the voice and in two I just love

the character design I don't know why. It's one

of those characters that's kind of stuck with

me over the years from especially the movie,

but even in the series, he just seems kind of

like the old veteran badass that was slowly replaced

by Cup. Right, right. Plus, I love the color

red on stuff, as you can see on the site, and

the All Things Transformers logo. So, that was

another influence of this character. It's just

one of my favorite Autobots that's not a leader.

You said, especially because of the movie, all

I can think of is, no, such heroic nonsense.

Boom! Headshot. It actually went more like this.

Noooo! Such heroic nonsense! Alright, Optimus

Solo, what is your number ten? Oh man. I guess

I'll start... I'm sorry, my list has changed

so many times because I was debating on whether

I could include two characters or not. So I had

like one version with them and one version without

them. Am going to go let's start off with Beast

Wars on my list. Holy crap. Yeah I'm gonna start

off with a character that I think brought so

much to that series and so much to the storylines

and Was just a unique character that we hadn't

really gotten Anything close to it up until that

point So I'm gonna go with black arachnia from

from Beast Wars as my number ten just because

she was unique And like I said, she just brought

so much, all the different storylines that she

was involved with, especially like the stuff

with her and Tarantulas. I just liked that we

got a legit female character in the Transformers

franchise. That didn't just seem like forced

in there. So Black Ragnia. You mean to that point,

right? Right. Because there were legit female

characters after... That's what I said. I said

to that point. Pay attention. She was the first

of her kind. Yes What about you Michael number

10 number 10? I'm going to go with Monka spanka

No, I'm kidding number 10 I'm going to include

our only representative from the unicorn trilogy

Armada Starscream Now the thing over a second

there. I thought you were gonna say sky bite.

Oh Damn, it's like I should have made the list.

Yeah No, I really like I'm out of sky by but

no in this case. I wanted to say Starscream You

know, I like several incarnations of Starscream

like almost all of them, but but this one stands

out because He was so much different than any

other Starscreams, you know, you think of Starscream

It's like I want to be the leader. I'm sneaky.

I'm underhanded, you know, I'm always trying

to overthrow Megatron This guy was different.

He was the the first to join the good guys He

had a girlfriend and He took on Unicron and lost

and he was disintegrated And he didn't come back.

He wasn't like a spark ghost or anything. He

was just dead Well, I shouldn't say that actually

they brought they broke back his spark ghost

in the next season or the next series Which was

which was dumb and and that character was dumb

but they sully the name of Armada Starscream

because like I said, he was just really Interesting

character they they kind of took Starscream and

made him a little more likeable. For me, my number

10, I think people are probably going to scream

at me for this, but my number 10, we're going

back to 1984 and G1 and we're going to say that

it's Optimus Prime at number 10. The only reason

why optimus is number 10 is because I have nine

other characters that I like more I loved optimus

as a kid, but they kept killing him as A six

seven year old they scarred me for life with

dark awakening making him a fucking zombie If

you look at it really he's one of the worst leaders

in transformers history So your defense of him

being number 10 on your list is to completely

rip him apart as no good character at all? He

I like the voice I like Peter Cullen as the voice

but optimus himself He does some really stupid

things in g1 like instead of strategizing how

to find Megatron and make sure he's not doing

something He's not supposed to do he's out there

playing basketball in a cup in one episode He

blindly sends his troops into battle without

knowing what the hell is going on But overall

optimus I do like him. I do like Peter Cullen

being the voice of Optimus. I think the most

badass scene he ever had was that run in the

movie when he hits Thrust right in the bumper

Yeah, so that's that's my number 10 Steve You

know with bumper He hits him with his bumper

when the rest of us all have Optimus Prime is

number one You're gonna be like what a dumbass

I am No, I'm not I'll be like that because there's

there's another one. That's much better. Don't

be a liar Steve number nine That's shit in German

kids, I know such a wonderful word G1 Starscream

I... As nine? Yeah. Alright. My list gets different

towards the end. I know who your number one is,

but it's only got to get more interesting from

here. Yeah, there's only one character you guys

know is going to be on there. And where he's

going to place. Monka Spanka. But anyway, Starscream

was actually one of my favorite - Decepticons

before Megatron Because of the fact that one

he's a snarky whiny little bitch Again, he's

red. He can fly. He's a jet his kick -ass null

rays and then The fact that he shares a voice

with Cobra commander It's just I I love that

that voice on that and to me this is the only

Starscream I'm not saying that I don't love Steve

Bloom's version or any of the others that have

done it over the years, but this is my number

one Starscream. The fact that he died in the

film, came back in the animated series twice

as a ghost and then managed to get his body back,

and then completely fucked over Unicron after

Unicron's like... Will give you your body and

he's like do it yourself and then he just like

throws the cords down and leaves And then he

ends up in Beast Wars so I mean it's he's just

a badass all on his own So when he shows up in

my list I'm gonna say what Steve said Kevin number

nine. Oh, can we mute Mike's mic for this one?

Not putting on this. I didn't put this on my

list to piss anybody off. I'm not trying to make

a joke. It's legit. When I looked at everything,

it really is my ninth most favorite character

in all of Transformers history. Really? And that

would be a G1 character by the name of Springer.

I loved Springer in the movie. Obviously the

movie was bringing a whole bunch of new characters

to us. I didn't care for a lot of them, but for

some reason I just really liked Springer in the

movie and then in the series afterwards. I don't

know, I guess I just could relate to him in some

way shape or form and he just kind of seemed

cool and I will say I don't like his toy. His

G1 toy was utter crap. Um, but as far as his

character in the animated form, I really like

Springer. So out of the movie people, uh, he

was one of my favorites. So Springer is number

nine for me. Oh, that's legit. I mean, you know,

some people that I could mention don't like Springer,

but you know, a lot of people who, I liked it

when he, uh, you know, became a bunch of pieces

and he was just a head for a while. And I think

a lot of people who, who prefer like. You know,

the third season stuff, you know, maybe they

like Springer. I think he's under the radar.

People forget about Springer, except for when

Mike is hating on him. But overall, I think in

general, people forget about Springer and he

was kind of cool. He didn't do anything wrong

in the series. Come on now. No, not. No, his

entire role in the movie was wrong. But anyway,

Michael, number nine. Beast Wars Blackarachnia

So I I completely agree with Kevin. Yeah, it's

a Blackarachnia had a really good run She had

an excellent story arc. She was I want to say

the first female character who had any type of

a real story arc Pretty much in Transformers.

She went through the the whole hero's journey

Mm -hmm bad guy the good guy and A lot of the

most interesting Beast Wars episodes were kind

of center around her in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah,

exactly and some of the the nicer Beast Wars

toys or Blackarachnia toys. Yeah, like that,

you know, good luck finding a Transmetal to Blackarachnia.

That's a sharp toy Yeah, there's one they never

made though. Hmm When she went silver in the

episode where they're on the island. Yeah, that

would that would have been an awesome toy. Yeah.

Yeah I'm sure funpub will get right on that.

Well, they they never got they never got the

body, right? She was still a repainted tarantulas

till she went transmittal to Yeah, yeah, you

know, we give you trance lists was kind of feminine

Just don't even Alright my number nine is the

first of three Yeah, first of three that Come

from two different generations. We're gonna go

to g1 and animated. You said we had to pick well

Anyway Can we just want to fail he's the one

that said we had to pick Alright fine, I'll pick

number 9 going to Animated, Shockwave. Shockwave

in G1, well I love Cory Burton's voice for Shockwave

in G1. Shockwave really didn't do anything all

that logical because every time the female Autobots

kicked his ass. But in Animated, he was ruthless.

I mean, they set up a storyline for him in Animated

where he was a spy. For the Decepticons, he got

implanted in auto boot camp as long arm and it

took them until the third season to actually

give him his true colors and again, like I said,

Cory Burton Rick returned to do the voice again

and The fact that he killed blur. Oh my god.

Yeah, that was a great character Absolutely number

eight Steve. Oh, I'm not gonna have much to say

here being that it's already been said Optimus

Prime? Wow. It's like you guys copied off each

other. What is this? She was unique. I mean,

to this point, the female Transformer characters

had been kind of lame. And from the moment of

her inception to through her entire run, she

had one of... Not a lot of characters had a lot

of evolution throughout the series She was one

of them that had heavy evolution Hmm, so and

there was a lot of character development with

her character. Whereas, you know you look at

Some other ones they you know didn't really change

all that much I Mean arguably they only had like

six main characters. So Everyone got a certain

story arc, but she was the first female to get

a story arc. And again, arguably, hers was better

than some of the other male characters. Compare

her to Air Razor. Air Razor got totally f -ed

over. Oh yeah. Like, Black Arachnia got the main

focus and Eraser was kind of screwed from the

get -go, just like Tigatron kind of was after

Eraser showed up. And then they, you know, it's

the same type of, I don't know, I mean, they

just, they did it better with her character than

they did with some of those like that. Even Quickstrike

was kind of lame compared to some of the stuff

that went on with her. Yeah. He was a tool. Exactly.

All right. Number eight, Kev. Well, so far we've

had nine characters and three of them have been

Black Ragnar, so dominating so far. My number

eight, another group that sometimes goes maybe

forgotten about when making these types of lists,

I would venture to guess. Maybe not. Maybe you

guys will have some other ones. But I wanted

to put one of the cassettes on there. Specifically,

probably my favorite one, which would be Rumble.

So I'm putting G1 Rumble on there, although I

guess you could make an argument for the video

game as far as the Fall for Cybertron version

is pretty cool in there, too. But I don't know,

I liked Rumble. I liked the Piledrivers. Out

of Soundwaves, Cassettes, Rumble and Frenzy were

always my favorites, so... It's not that He's

like an awesome character, but he brings a little

comedic relief He brings a little difference

as far as size wise goes and it comes out of

sound waves So that's just badass and it's of

itself. So, I don't know. I like rumble. His

pile drivers are cool Now is that the red one

or the blue one? Nobody calls sound wave uncharismatic

Michael number eight I Went with animated prowl

and and I'll tell you why The I want to say element

animated prowl was the first transformers ninja

We had the characters before in g1 who? Studied

the ancient Cybertronian art of metallicado,

you know and the and the five fingers of metallic

death or whatever but They didn't have screen

time, you know, you didn't see you didn't see

a ninja on except for a night bird Let's say

but she was I was just gonna say yeah. Yes. Prowl

is the first ever like Autobot Decepticon Yeah,

yeah the first Cybertronian ninja night bird

was in there night bird was a ninja and that

was interesting But it she wasn't Cybertron if

we can call her a she sure But you know, we have

this this character who's you know straight up

ninja. He's like I I have all those ninja skills

and he's I want to say like a zen master he like

hangs out under the tree under his tree in his

room and just admires nature so he had he had

a really interesting personality and in the end

spoilers he sacrifices himself to save the world

the series ended a number of years ago so anyone

hasn't seen it by now especially after listening

to this show if you haven't seen that series

and you're listening to the show then maybe you

should really go back and listen or you know

watch that series you need to go back and listen

to our reviews while you watch the series and

you can get that series on dvd in a complete

series form from shout factory thank you brian

ward exactly uh... my number eight we're gonna

go back to animated uh... and this time around

i'm gonna pick blur again animated set characters

up so well for introductions because we first

see what we think is blur what we think is a

blue racer autobot in the season one or two episode

i forget which one which season it is is in uh...

velocity yeah that's totally Right, and then

when we get to the point of later on in the series

when Bumblebee calls him Zippy and we finally

hear what Blur is going to sound like, it's John

Machina Jr. It's G1 Blur in the animated form

and that was so awesome. Blur in G1, he was okay.

In the movie in the movie he was really cool

in season three. I think he was wasted Yeah,

I think he always said the same thing over and

over and over again, but he said it really fast

So so he's like mumbles from the 1990 Dick Tracy

film says things really fast They have to record

it take it onto a record player and slow it down.

That's ridiculous. Yeah But at least an animated,

you know when he spoke really fast he spoke in

complete sentences Yeah, it was interest. That's

very true. I agree if I had the choose between

two blurs animated would be the blur I would

go with All right, Steve number seven Okay Beast

Wars Depth Charge Can't help it I love that character

from the minute he showed up in the series Just

simply I love the design. I love the fact that

the we we got our first water transformer No,

we had sea spray I'm saying in Beast Wars. Oh,

okay. I don't count sea spray. He was Yeah, so

I'm gonna get gargling something all the time.

Yeah So And depth charge kind of came in there

and was kind of like basically screw you screw

you screw you and You know, he he showed up Maximal,

you know all the Maximals and thrashed all the

Predacons till he realized rampage kicked his

ass On the first get -go and then Ended up forming

kind of a bond with Cheetor by saving him but

then you know, I mean he eventually became a

team player and you saw a little bit of evolution

and what little bit of the series was left where

he was there and Finally doing what he set out

to do which was terminate proto -formax The interesting

thing about sea spray sea spray is skeletor Kev

Alan Oppenheimer was the voice of C -Spray. Is

that going to be your number six? C -Spray? No.

Kev, number seven. Well, we haven't had one of

this character yet. We also haven't had anybody

from this show yet, which is somewhat of a crime.

So I will rectify both of those things. And with

my number seven, I will go with Megatron. from

specifically Transformers Prime. I have to have

Megatron somewhere on the list, I guess. That's

probably a rule somewhere, I think, written down

somewhere in the bylaws of Transformers character

list. That is true. But why this particular one?

This one's my favorite one. It's my favorite

one because he's... As far as the attitude that

he has and the tone of him he obviously Megatron

always has a little bit of crazy, but he's not

just like Stupid crazy, or he doesn't necessarily

come across as Like your classic villain where

he's too dumb to actually ever get anything done

Megatron in Transformers Prime to me is ruthless

He's what I want out of that character now I

I'm not saying anything bad against the G1 one

because the G1 has a lot of that too They're

very similar in a lot of their traits. I just

like how it was done better in Transformers Prime

I like the voice Frank Welker uses in the in

the prime version of Megatron a little bit better

obviously he's aged so he probably can't do some

of the stuff that he was doing earlier, but Although

he's done the same voice for certain characters

for decades and decades. But I just like the

take on Transformers Prime. He's just a ruthless,

intimidating leader who doesn't take crap from

anybody, who puts people in their place. Probably

out of most characters in Transformers Prime,

I enjoyed him near the top. So I know that's

probably a weird... choice as far as if I had

to choose one Megatron. I know most people would

take other versions, but me personally, I will

take the Transformers Prime version. What I loved

about Megatron and Prime was that when they announced

that it was going to be Frank doing the voice,

we all assumed before we heard anything, we all

assumed, most of us probably did, that he was

just going to do G1 all over again. Well, as

Kevin said, he's gotten older since then. so

we weren't sure what it was going to sound like

and the G1 voice is on a higher register and

it's really one of those throat scratching voices

for him and I saw an interview and I'm sure we've

all seen this or I saw or I read an interview

where he says he used like the back of his vocal

cords he used a deeper tone for prime and it's

still it's not G1 Megatron but it's still damn

close to it Because it's still the same type

of character as you know, it's a more serious

turns exactly I Don't want to say that I prefer

it Because again when I think of Megatron is

got that gravel But at the same time I I do like

the way the character was written. I agree Oh

God The 2015 cartoon Christian Bale is gonna

be Megatron Why are you talking now? Shut up.

Michael, you're number seven. I'm number seven.

G1Jazz. Jazz was one of the main good guys on

the show, and he was voiced by Scatman Crothers.

He had a very unique, very interesting voice.

People can do a good Scatman. But, I mean, people

don't talk like that. There's only one person

that I've heard do a full -on impression of Scatman.

That's Phil Lamar. Sounds just like him. Yeah,

it's really, really good. It's still not gravely

enough to be... It's the damn closest you'll

ever hear, but it's not gravely enough. Yeah,

it's really good, but it's not Scatman. And people

just don't... Again, that's not... Want to say

he is the only person who has ever had that particular

speaking voice and And I want to say that you

know him in the cartoon is pretty much just him

talking Yeah I'd have to watch that's what he

sounds in most and on almost all of his characters.

It's that voice so Yeah, no, it's it's it's really

interesting and I really liked him as a voice

actor I think and I think he brought a lot to

the show Alright for me number seven I put this

here because I do like this character and I say

character as a singular character, but I also

put it here because Since Kevin is on the show

now We got a debate about a certain g1 character

that it is a single character that just got a

personality twitch What my number seven overall

favorite character Megatron Galvatron from g1.

They are the same character Astro train in them

in season 3 even says they were the same guy.

They're not different characters Are you cheating?

I can I can kind of This is this is the thing.

He did get a name change. He did get reformatted

It is the same spark and and inside innards of

Megatron However, he did end up more or less

entering into more of a splintered Damaged version

of Megatron. So Mike for your number 10, should

we change it to Orion Pax? Just asking. Because

that's Optimus Prime. When he was a whiny little

bitch! I almost wish they would have let David

Wise leave in the panel where in War Dawn Megatron

was gonna slice his arm off. Sure why not. And

then he would become Shaak Wave. Hmm pretty much.

So which which version are you preferring though

Megatron or Galvatron? Oh Galvatron hands down

Galvatron. Yeah Really? Like I like the crazy

like I like freaking purple don't let him lie

No, I like I like the crazy and I like the voice

that Frank Welker used for Galvatron a little

bit better than Megatron I'm fine with that It

is my destiny! I didn't hate Galvatron. I did.

I didn't like Galvatron and I didn't like Rodimus

Prime. It just, you know, can't get behind those

two particular leaders. Anyway, Steve, number

six? My number six is Transformers Prime Megatron.

I just I liked the smooth armored version of

Megatron in this case and I love the fact that

he more or less didn't really take any shit from

anybody. I mean the only reason he got knocked

out was because you know he got power hungry

and then Starscream just kind of kept him in

that state so I mean it's He's he's managed to

do some things that the original Megatron would

not have done like the you know, the the zombie

transformers or the dark energon infusion and

I mean granted that stuff didn't exist in the

original but still He's he's managed to Kick

the Autobots asses and come up with other things

that I mean granted eventually he led to his

downfall, like they all do, but I think he's

the most badass Megatron next to my favorite

one. What I'm wondering is how are they going

to use Megatron in the upcoming series next year?

I was going to say, yeah, because at the end

of Beast Hunters, he basically threw down his

sword and said, no, I'm not fighting anymore.

We shall see. No, they're gonna make him a mad

hermit Kevin you're number six. Oh, yeah number

six Go back to where I started my countdown.

I guess I will go back to Beast Wars And this

time I will go with Cheetor He's my favorite

Beast Wars character liked that he wasn't just

all I know he he was playing a role that could

have been annoying but it to me it wasn't we

had the thing where kids could probably relate

to it that were younger than I was that were

watching that show as far as him like maturing

on the show and kind of really going through

a progression as a character but I really enjoyed

him especially you know once he gets to the Transmetal

Version of himself. The toy was pretty cool,

too. So I just really enjoyed cheater He was

my favorite character on that series. So I had

to put him in here. So that's what my next one

is Michael number six number six is animated

swindle At first I was like man, I really like

swindle. I want to go with g1 swindle because

I mean this guy You know sold the spare parts

of all of his teammates in order to make a little

extra cash on the side and And got a bomb put

in his head for his effort, but But animated

swindle has Fred Willard as the voice. Yeah It

just comes together. It's it's it's a perfect

storm of awesome. Yes Absolutely. Yeah, I wasn't

sure, because honestly, when they got to Swindle,

when they got to the SUV episode, Society of

Ultimate Villainy, I wasn't sure who. Because

I could barely remember the G1 voice. Like, I

had to actually go back and watch the G1 episodes

to even remember the G1 Swindle voice. And when

I realized it's Fred Willard, I'm like, oh, that

is so freaking cool. It's so perfect. Yeah, yes

Yeah, and I think they did a lot better job of

including swindle in the story arc I mean rather

than g1 g1. He was you know, but maybe one or

two episodes. He got his own own story Yeah,

but yeah, he played a pretty pretty significant

role in animated Next time you're on around Nexus

zero Say hi to the VOC for me. Nice people, the

VOC. Nice people, the VOC. Good stuff. My number

6 is the only triple changer that I really love,

Astrotrain. Jack Angel had the perfect voice

for this character in G1. I'm surprised that

no series past G1 has really used him. We've

had other trains. We had the bullet train. We

had rail racer with the bullet trains and stuff

like that, but like... Trains are hard. Yeah,

well, I guess kids nowadays don't like trains

or they don't know what a train is. Yeah, well,

yeah. Kind of like they don't know what a cassette

player is. Not like the locomotives that AstroTrain

turned into and, you know, Blitzwing. Blitzwing's

a safe bet. Tank! plane crazy guy yeah oh that's

talking about blitzwing and g1 yeah no well either

well you know either one i mean there's the blitzwing

and g1 didn't have much to do anything not really

he got run over by optimus prime too i think

Yeah, he got he got one he and astro train got

one episode triple takeover and it was a horrible

horrible episode But yeah astro train I've always

loved the character Mainly because I think it's

secretly King's Archon from Voltron inside astro

train Completely lost Jack angel Jack angel voice

King's Archon from Voltron, and it's the same

voice as astrotron Inside your head I know you

wouldn't like it there because you'd be in a

jail cell I don't want to be there Steve your

number five what you're saying is you cage him

and stare at him in the cave your number five

you sick sadistic bad somebody Go get the GIMP

the GIMP sleeping. I'll go wake him up Oh a cage

what you said so my number five is Beast Wars

rat trap See I couldn't decide which Scott McNeil

character was my favorite so I didn't pick any

of them I was torn. I wanted... I either was

going to do Dinobot or I was going to do Rattrap.

And for me, Rattrap lasted the entire Beast era.

But just specifically in Beast Wars, I liked

him because he was the inventor. He was the smartass.

He was the comic relief. He was the guy that

could get in and out of tight pinches. I mean...

Just look at his infiltration of the Predacon

base or against Sentinel when Dinobot smashed

it. Or even on the Ravages ship. Just in general,

this guy is... Those reasons alone are really

why I love the character. Plus, I love the designs

and the fact that he's a rat with wheels. After

he transmedalizes. Yeah, I mean, I like his original

form too, but I love them when he gets to the

Transmetal form. Absolutely. But he has staying

power. He actually got a new toy. Yeah, and he's

he's got the the new 30th anniversary Rattrap

toy, which is. Show accurate for the original

form. I just wish they would have had a trans

metal one, too But I would love a generations

trans metal to rat trap that is metal rat trap.

He wasn't to know But yeah, that's that's my

number five Kev what about you for number five?

I might get skewered a little for this too. I

guess a lot of people might think this is a little

too early Just like they did when Mike said it,

but for my number five, I'm gonna go with the

G1 version of Optimus Prime I don't I didn't

dislike him as much as you did Mike In your description

of him, but I don't know I like just as a kid

like he was he was Thought he was a great leader

When I was watching this show as a kid like he

seemed like that's how you should lead And that's

what you should be like when you know my little

kid brain version is watching this show He's

cool. He was a freaking truck You know you got

the trailer you got him you got the little guy

roller you got all kinds of cool things You got

Peter Cullen doing his voice which as a kid that

was like such an awesome voice to hear So yeah,

I like Optimus Prime from beginning to end of

g1 even zombie episode and all. Ultron's Prime

G1, how is he not on anybody's top 10 list? He

has to be somewhere, right? So, number five for

me. Michael, number five. Number five? I got

actually six people. But I'm only going to count

one. It's G1 Devastator. So G1 Devastator...

I still wanted to put a combiner in my list and

I just couldn't. You know, I love combiners.

When I first started collecting transformers

again in the... say late 90s, 99, 2000 or so,

that was kind of my go -to list. I wanted to

own the combiners for some reason, but Devastator

was my favorite toy. Well, that's hard to say

I had a g1 optimus that I really really loved

but aside from that the Devastator box set I

got that for Christmas and it was just the biggest

gift I'd ever received if it was huge and And

yeah Devastator was just my favorite favorite

toy and I would take them apart Toy ever received

so you just made me think of that Metroplex Oh,

you know, no, that's true. I did have a Metroplex,

but that was that was years later Actually, no,

it was like two years later. Anyway, whatever,

you know, I mean when you're when you're 10,

you know Two years is an eternity But yeah, so

no, I love that guy and I loved him on the movie

and You know whenever they create new combine

as i'm all over it i'm really excited for the

combiner wars next year mhm and that's next spring's

uh... it's i d w's next event for the transformers

comics currently for those that didn't know uh...

they have uh... toys we're getting the new menace

or we're going to carry us okay okay so the okay

it is going to be both or you knew that Not thought

the toys I knew the comic. Oh my god. Oh no the

toys are awesome, and there's already pictures

out of a Repaint of Motor Master in prime colors

so yeah, so they're saying that that there might

be an Autobot version of Menace or Like the g1

episode where optimus prime? Masquerade. Yeah

Masqueraded as Motor Master. It's it's gonna

be a good year for people who like combiners

My number five we're going back to animated and

this time and oh shut up This time it's it's

jazz. I love what Phil Lamar did with jazz. Of

course, I still do love Scatman in G1, but I

just wish there was a little bit more jazz and

animated. He didn't really have, like he was

there, but he didn't really have enough cool

things, but Phil Lamar gave him a super cool

voice. And when I had talked to him about it,

I asked him, I said, so did they tell you to

do your own thing or to impersonate Scatman?

And he said, well, impersonating Scatman, you

have to get into a certain zone and to do that,

you know, I can do it. But they told me to do

my own thing. And I think what he did with the

character was amazing. Yeah, I agree. Steve,

number four, it's G1 Optimus Prime. We weren't

so far off from each other just because he's

the original. Not that I didn't like the Transformers

Prime Optimus Prime, but I there's just something.

about that original Tractor trailer and the fact

that he was more of the innocent original incarnation

of Optimus Prime, whereas the later incarnations

have become bloodthirsty. Give me your face.

Yeah. Give me your face, Kelsey Grummer. Kill

them all. Grab the humans. Kill them all. But

yeah, I like the original Optimus Prime and he

was more noble and more... I don't know. Each

Optimus ends up becoming a badass at some point

during their run, but also gets some kind of

huge tragedy, whether it be death and then returning.

Don't they all get that? Yeah, but this one was

done better only because he was the first. After

the first, it's kind of like... It's like, you

know, this is this is fresh milk that's sour

milk, you know afterwards so it's You know each

each optimist. I mean think about it every time

a new Transformers series goes on They kill off

optimists and then they bring them back a couple

episodes later And we don't like that and we

hate it. Are you listening Stephen Melching?

No granted listening no granted Beast Wars and

Transformers Prime did it best Because they came

back with upgraded bodies to sell another toy,

but it was also New and cooler, but You know

more so the films were shitty with it, but anyways

Optimus Prime G1 is is the best version of that

Optimus Prime Kev number four number four I'm

really torn on the version that I would pick

for this individual character, but since I have

to pick one, I ultimately, I guess by default,

will go with the G1 version. to take anything

away from, although certain members of the panel

will disagree with me, but not to take anything

away from the Transformers Prime version of this

character. But just growing up, this was always

one of my favorite characters. I liked the toy.

I liked the character on the cartoon. So my number

four will be G1 version of Wheeljack. We had

to have a Wheeljack mentioned somewhere and he's

one of my favorite characters. So I really love

Wheeljack. Like I said, I also Liked the take

on him in Prime, but maybe liked the take a little

bit better with G1. And again, Chris Lada is

cool. So give him a nod, I guess, outside of

his Starscream role. He was cool as Wheeljack.

So Wheeljack, number four. I know a lot of people

think that's probably too high, but I loved him.

Yeah, I don't have a problem. I know a lot of

other people not on the panel that have a problem

with prime wheel jack that oh He wasn't a scientist.

No, he has swords and he's a wrecker. I mean

drift Yeah, anyway, I don't know. I honestly

out of the two versions. I'd pick g1 myself So

I mean I have zero problems real jack if I had

to go with a wheel jack. I would definitely choose

g1 and You're number four Michael G1 Grimlock.

Because we couldn't choose Bavers. Kidding. That's

not Grimlock, that's just some random... That's

the funniest thing about the show. Funniest moment.

You can't choose the Bavers? I love the G1 Dinobots.

I love them all equally. They're like my little

babies. You know, I can't pick one. But if I

had to pick one, it would be the only one they

ever let talk. Which would be... Well, you know,

some of them got... No, they all talk. Oh, please.

Swoop talked. Snarl talked. They got, like...

Sludge talked. They got, like, one line each

consisting of three words. That's not talking.

No, there was a whole episode in season three

where Swoop and... They could have been farting

and they would have had more syllables come out

of them. That's the biggest, that's the longest

sentence you've had this whole season, Snarl!

Oh wait, it was a movie! There was a whole episode

where Daniel and Swoop had a whole, like... 20

minutes out of a 30 -minute episode had a whole

thing to talk back and forth while they were

looking for the other Dinobots. So Michael Bell

as Swoop did have nearly a whole episode of dialogue.

Good for Swoop, but Grimlock basically left all

the Dinobots behind in season 3 and became Daniel's

puppy. Daniel's puppy was... Yeah, Daniel's puppy.

Yeah, you followed him around. Well, see Grimlock

got a new brain and then he ate the other Dinobots.

And recycled them into the... Cesium salami.

The Cesium salami. I was going to say the...

God, I forget what they're called. The Computron,

guys. The Technobots. Easily the crappiest of

the combiners. But the coolest toys. They well,

you know at that point they were doing futuristic

Cybertronian vehicles because they didn't want

to pay for the rights to actual real vehicles

anymore one of the most sturdy combiners as far

as the original toys go You think no, I want

to say Predaking Oh Predaking was too big. It

was too heavy. Oh, I love Predaking. No, I know

but I mean as far as like just wear and tear

and and being able to like keep its like Ability

to stand up. Yeah, the Technobots were in the

Terror cons Was that the right one? Yeah, terror

cons were two of the sturdiest They were just

making them a little better than they did when

like good Lord superions are impossible to stand

up. Oh, yeah Superion yeah, he stands up about

as well as Voyager class cheetor Supreme Cheetor

and Beast Machines. That's even worse. I was

going to say Night Scream, but we agreed not

to talk about Night Scream. Beast Wars is just

cluttered full of crappy toys, but that's either

here or there. Beast Machines. Beast Machines,

wow. That's a right hole we don't want to go

down. As far as combiners go, they did just get

better. They got better, yeah, they got better

and better. But for my money, Predaking is one

of my favorite combiners. My number four is Soundwave,

and I also do have a note on here for the other

cassettes as well. Now I know a lot of people

count the cassettes that came G1, G1 Soundwave.

You can't count the cassettes all with Soundwave,

they're separate guys. I said that I have a note

on here, Soundwave and the cassettes, but I'm

just picking Soundwave. But I know a lot of people

like all of the cassettes. I only like what was

introduced in the first two seasons and the movie.

I don't care about Slugfest and whatever the

hell the other ones were that were toys. Yeah,

Slugfest, Overkill, and whatever other ones there

were. I like those. Soundwave was awesome. Soundwave

was... Who thought of putting a cassette and

then being like, let's do dinosaurs? What's the

size? I don't know. I like cassette combiners.

Squawk talk and slam box. I just like the idea

of cassettes and like, okay, we're going to do

like a little, like a, you know, the bat and,

uh, you know, some smaller things. And then they're

like, let's, let's get creative here. Let's make

a T -Rex out of a cassette. The cat, the bat

and the dinosaur. That scale doesn't seem to

work out, right? Well, Ratbat, I don't mind Ratbat.

I actually like Ratbat. No, I'm talking about

Overkill and Slugfest because they're a T -Rex

and a Stegosaurus or whatever. I like those guys.

Soundwave has dino butts inside of him. Anyways,

why did you pick Soundwave? Soundwave was always

my favorite character, just the kind of character

as a kid. He was always the toy I always wanted

but never had. Hmm thought everyone had a sound

wave. He was like the most ubiquitous guy. I

had the real one. It was called a Sony Walkman

I had blaster in his cassettes I had I had the

welfare sound wave which was yeah, it was like

the You mean you had the animated sound wave

because that's pretty much a no Well back in

1984, right? Radio Shack made something called

like the sound man. Oh Jesus Oh was horrible.

It was it was like on par with a blaster except

it started off looking like a sound wave and

then when you actually started to pull it apart

and transform it it It was it was really bad

It made the ch -ch -ch -ch -ch garbage. No, no.

It didn't transform. It turned into something

bipedal. But it wasn't Soundwave. It was like,

everyone's like, look, I got the Soundwave, I

got the Soundwave. And I'm like, I got a Soundman.

And they're like, ha ha, you're poor. Terrible.

My best friend at the time when I was a kid,

we... I don't know why, honestly, I never could

find a Soundwave or never got one or whatever

else, but I had Blaster in his cassettes and

he had Soundwave in his cassettes, so we would

basically be playing Autobots versus Decepticons.

But I always liked Soundwave's voice, even though

it is Dr. Claw with a vocoder, it's still awesome.

And I just liked the fact that they were using

something that was technology of the now. I mean,

a cassette player and a cartoon, that was just

awesome. Steve, you're number three. You're just

picking all the Scott McNeil voices. Yeah, I

couldn't help myself. I don't blame you. I did

this one because I can do the voice. And I met

the man and he did Waspinator and the other three.

And also because he's comedic relief. Usually

udders g1 references whenever he has a problem

Like one car one car, you know, which would actually

wasn't g1. I was a fan but the same And then

yeah, he was possessed by Starscream So by proxy

that makes him cooler already that was by far

the creepiest Starscream ever I know, I know.

Yeah, Waspinator was always awesome. I love the

varying ways they were able to destroy Waspinator.

Let me count the ways. Yes. Hell, we can just

have a countdown on that. Oh my god. He was shredded,

blown up, turned into a cube. Yup. Kev, what

is your number three? Alrighty then, I know since

I put Optimus Prime at number five, I will again

get hate mail for putting this guy at number

three because that's probably a crime in some

circles to rank this guy higher than Optimus

Prime, but I actually really liked him and it's

not Rodimus Prime. My number three would be a

G1 Ultra Magnus. I just, as a kid, really liked

Ultra Magnus. I don't know if it was Robert Stack

and his voice from the movie. I think a lot of

it had to do with just his design and how he

looked. I don't know, I just liked Ultra Magnus

as his whole presence. I could honestly take

Ultra Magnus in a variety of different shows

I've liked him. I even somewhat liked him in

animated. Liked him in prime, but if I had to

choose it's the g1 version I kind of liked some

of those movie characters like Springer and I

liked ultra Magnus so ultra Magnus number three

sent hate mail to optimus solo Ultra Magnus and

g1 I did like him. I liked him in the movie I

thought it was interesting that they got the

unsolved mysteries guy to do his voice um, but

really I think I Like, I do enjoy Robert Stack

as Ultra Magnus in the movie, but honestly...

How cool would it have been, though, if Ultra

Magnus was the one instead of Rodinus Prime?

No, that would never have worked. That would

have been awesome. How much cooler would that

have been? Ultra Prime, Ultra Magnus Prime? No,

that would have never worked. They could have

just taken his armor off. And look, he's Prime

already! He's just got a different color. The

toy looks the same color. There you go! First

ever repaint. I almost like Jack Angel in season

3 a little bit better as the voice of Walter

Magnus. No disrespect to Robert Stack, I loved

him in the movie, but Jack Angel in season 3

I thought was a good play -on for Dick Gaudier's

Rodimus, because they changed the voice actors

for both of them. Before I get hate mail, I know

the Seekers were the first repaints. Continue.

Michael, you're number three. G1 Starscream.

We're going, you know, back to the original old

school. And I know I already chose a Starscream,

but that was our modest Starscream. Completely

different guy. You know, if you look at, let's

say, Prime Starscream or Animated Starscream,

you know, arguably, they're all just reiterations

of G1 Starscream. except you when Starscream

was the first and and again, you can't argue

with Chris Lada who's also the voice of Cobra

commander and You know if you watch Transformers

at that time you also had to watch GI Joe This

is how it works, especially in the third season

You know when you had old snake Because You know,

Cobra Commander was actually on the Transformers.

Yep. Good stuff. If only Cobra Commander showed

up in mask, that would make that show so much

better than what it actually is. All right. My

number three is R .C. from Transformers Prime.

From Transformers Prime. Let me finish this fucking

sentence before you go ahead and rip me apart.

RC in Transformers Prime was kick -ass. She referenced

the G1 counterpart by saying, if you reverse

my colors, I'd be pink. She kicked ass and took

names. It was just an overall very well done

character, and Simile Montano came up with a

great voice for her. Right. She had a very, you

know, you guys talk about Black Arachnia having

a really deep story arc in Beast Wars and Beast

Machines. R .C. through all three seasons. I

mean, we saw a lot of her. And she actually starts

the prequel comic, because it's her and Cliffjumper

on Cybertron in the IDW prequel comic. As you're

reading it, you're hearing Subali. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, she was wonderful. And as I'm reading it,

I'm also hearing The Rock as Cliffjumper, because

I'm sorry, the one that they got to replace him

in season three or season two just didn't know.

I get it. The Rock is expensive, but still. Didn't

have the same flair. No, he just didn't have

the same flair. Gotcha. But RC, you know, she

taught Jack a lot of lessons. They, you know,

we went through her whole part. You know, she

had two partners that basically died on her watch.

Just a really, really great storyline for RC.

So Steve, your number two. Well, my number two

would be Unit Optimus Primal. Which body cuz

he's got enough of them. I like all three of

them actually till he hit Beast Machines Then

he looks like like a Michael Bay version of a

Beast Wars Okay, I will admit I will admit that

Beast Machines optimal Beast Machines optimus

is kind of bad, but he's not as bad as Michael

Bay. Well, he's got lips The better to kiss you

with. Come here Megatron. Pucker up Megatron.

I'll show you what I've got. Anyways, no I liked

Optimus Primal from the first moment he showed

up because I first, I kind of referenced him

with Optimus Prime to begin with because of the

head. before he got his Transmetal form. And

then as I watched the series and I got to like

him more through like Guerrilla Warfare and various

other episodes like that, and then the aliens,

the various alien incursions, Law of the Jungle,

all these other episodes, and then... You get

into the part where Megatron double -crosses

him and locks him in a stasis pod and then primal

goes boom and then Rhinox Does his voodoo call

and makes primal come back and he comes back

in a new body and That was one of my favorite

episodes for the longest time until he got his

optimal body Where he got some of the inverted

original kind of colors and size and everything

else so But no, I mean he's Been a pretty solid

character as far as the Beast Wars are concerned

Mm -hmm. I'll buy that for a dollar I'll buy

that for a dollar. Yeah, what's your number two?

My list is so non -traditional You are so non

-traditional. I feel bad because I have a traditional

list and I'm like no one's choosing the same

things I got, yeah? No, it's good that some people

choose what everyone wants us to choose. I guess

my favorite Autobot in all of G1 Not necessarily

because of the voice I'm not necessarily a huge

fan of the guy but it fit with this character

and for some reason I know everybody always loved

Bumblebee but myself personally I always loved

Cliffjumper So G1 Cliffjumper was probably my

favorite Autobot in that entire series Don't

ask me why but I just liked him ten times better

than Bumblebee Rest in peace Casey Kasem Exactly

So I know no one else will pick it so I wanted

to have a quick chopper mention. We hope they

find your body. What's that? Christ man. Well,

it's true. Stop talking about my dead body, Michael

Blyndrum. It's terrible. I'm being buried in

Norway. Right. It was like two weeks ago. The

guy had died. It was too soon. Too soon. Too

soon. No, it's not too soon. No, he died a month

ago and now he's being hauled around the world

on his death tour. Cliffjumper world tour. Where's

Carbamia when you need it? You're carting him

around like Stalin. This is terrible. Michael,

you're number two. G1 Megatron now I've heard

some some persuasive arguments during the show

about why other Versions of Megatron are better

and you know, I'm on the fence I'm not I'm not

prepared to to back up my decision here other

than the fact that when I was young That was

my Megatron Frank Walker actually had gravel

back then when he when he was young, right? And

and when I hear Megatron now, it's like I do

like the way he's written I I like the fact that

Frank Walker is trying to do that that same voice,

but it's not the same voice Just not the same

and the Megatron of old just had just the craziest

schemes, you know, or you know, it just just

weird 1980s storylines that would never play

nowadays and Starscream come over here and wax

my keister You're an idiot Starscream. I'm an

idiot. I'm an idiot but Just things that Really

just endeared that character to me You know when

I think of Just like my all -time favorite villains

g1 Megatron always comes to mind Contest so It

was one of the worst toys for children though

All kids all I want to say all kids, but all

little boys have toy guns Not shoot your eye

out even now. Well, they are not as realistic

as me I mean Megatron was Realistically looking

like a gun was a leader awesome. Yeah. No, he

was he was awesome. But you know, he's very Japanese

in that sense Yeah, I don't think they're fun.

I got a real one Yeah, I don't think other toy

lines had a realistic Walther p38, you know and

they're in their line The two times that Megatron

was the most hilarious for me from G1 is in the

episode Microbots when they get drunk on energon.

And when he tells Starscream, enough with the

scientific gobbledygook Starscream. I'm thinking,

what the hell is scientific gobbledygook? I don't

think I've heard any voice actor ever say that

in another Transformers cartoon series. That's

right. Goblegoo Starscream, this is bad. Bad

something. Yeah, I had something. It's my medicine.

Bad medicine is what I need. Whoa, shake it up.

My number two is Cheetor, specifically Beast

Machines, but I do like his overall progression

through basically... preteen through teen years

into adulthood. Are you cheating again? No, I'm

not. I said Beast Machines. I said Beast Machines

and I started when he was a wee tot on the Axelon.

Well, no, because he was... I don't know. I'd

say when he was in his original form, he was

probably... 13 14 by the time he got Transmetal

1 15 and Transmetal 2 is at least 17 18. No The

original 11 the next one's like 13 and then the

next was 15 because this horny toad is going

off When he got the beast machines he just became

a lot more badass and he was really really cool

that was when he hit 18 So yeah Cheetor has always

been one of my favorites and he comes in at number

two now We're getting to my favorite part because

I'm I predicted all of your number ones before

we started and I am and None of you have eliminated

them yet Awesome. Well done sir Sorry continue

You don't know you don't know me Steve what is

your number one? My number one is... G1 Megatron.

No. My number one is G1 Scourge. Oh, wait. No,

it's not. What? It's... You know what your number

one is. Don't make me say it. Ah, yes. Beast

Wars Megatron. There you go. Obviously, it's

my favorite character because I can hear the

voice, but I also like... I like the fact that

Megatron just his entire appearance the way he

carries himself His penchant for intelligent

conversation by talking to himself The fact he

has a rubber ducky Brushes his dinosaur teeth.

He's got a hot tub. Yeah, he has a trophy room

In an episode It's an awesome incarnation of

the character Yeah, I just I love everything

about him and he's Cold calculating, but he's

also He likes to gamble Which is kind of a nice

thing with a Megatron he he leaves most things

You know very certain but some things he leaves

to chance and hopes that it lands in his favor

and then the fact that he controlled and unkillable

transformer by crushing his heart and cutting

it out of his chest. It's pretty awesome. And

he took over the Decepticon warship. And if it

weren't for the fact that he has this infatuation

with Dinobot, he probably would have succeeded.

Yep. Because he brought back Dinobot and Dinobot

after Rampage died. Well, we know what happens

there. Traitor. Alright Kev, what is your number

one? Alright, once again, this is so hard to

choose which version because I've never really

had too many versions of this character that

I haven't liked. Prime version was... I really

want to go with the Prime version but I can't

in all fairness pick a Prime version as my number

one character of all time because I have to pick

a G1 character as my number one character of

all time. So even though the Prime version is

totally kick -ass and awesome and hard to beat,

I will go with the G1 version of Soundwave. It's

my favorite Decepticon in all... Variations of

Transformers franchise shows movies games, whatever

Soundwave is my favorite Decepticon The voice

was awesome with the vocoder. He has cassettes

that came out of him. He Was a man of very few

words, but when he did talk it was important

and I love that about a character And I just

can't say enough good things about Soundwave

the toy was cool The character was cool. The

prime version was cool. The g1 character was

cool. Soundwave is awesome Soundwave superior

The notice that he didn't just group all of the

cassettes in with him Michael your number one

my number one is g1 optimus prime And to everyone

who did not pick g1 optimus prime is their number

one your opinion is wrong Blanchard is used to

having a wrong opinion. He can't help it So yeah

Peter Cullen and arguably his his best role at

the best time of that character and he was a

role model for the 80s. I hear a lot of people

who say, oh, you know, I was a latchkey kid and

Optimus Prime, you know, was like a surrogate

father, he raised me. And I can't exactly relate

with that. I can't really relate to that so much,

but I did love the character and... That's why

he's he's number one. He had an awesome toy.

I owned that toy I was really excited to get

enough from his prime when I was little And I

just played played with it until it damn near

all the stickers fell off See I don't remember

Transformers being on in the afternoon after

school. I remember him being on the morning That

was later on that wasn't in the first round the

first one was afternoon I know what you're talking

about when it was on the morning, but that was

later on I'm talking like 85 86. They were ran

in the morning. Mm -hmm at least where I live

they were could be All right, so Anybody care

to guess because we all know what it is, right?

No Springer He only had five seconds of actual

audio in Transformers Animated, so I'm not going

to count that, even though Judd Nelson did return

to voice the character. Wheely? No, if Spada

was here, maybe Spada would have Wheely as his

number one. No, G1 Hot Rod slash Rodimus Prime.

Oh, shut up. At least it's a G1 character, at

least I didn't say, oh yay, it's Sari from Animated.

At least you didn't. Because I would have won

that shit insane. Terastrog, I love you. Sari's

the best. I absolutely love Hot Rod Rodimus Prime.

I think he got a raw deal because he got to be

leader for all of five seconds or less. He was

an ass leader? He didn't really get to lead I

mean that's like if they only gave Obama a year

cuz he couldn't handle leadership, but he killed

himself He didn't kill when did he kill himself?

He had to go back into the matrix to talk with

the past leaders, and he did so by killing himself

He reached into his chest and unplugged some

shit, and he died no no he didn't kill himself

michael he made himself unconscious he gave himself

an out -of -body experience and if that's not

killing yourself i don't know what of anyway

um all right so those are all our number ones

those are our top 10 got some stats for you all

right okay all right so we picked uh we picked

uh 21 autobots and 19 decepticons Pretty darn

close. Finally, the Autobots actually win at

something. We had 21 characters from G1, followed

with nine characters from Beast Wars, thanks

to the six that appeared on Steve's list. So

nine for Beast Wars would be the second most.

Five from Animated, thanks to Mr. Wilson and

both mics. Three from Transformers Prime, one

from Beast Machines, and one from the Unicron

trilogy. If you want to take all the different

versions and put them all into one I guess we

had five megatrons and five optimus primes Three

star screams three black arachneas two jazz's

two sound waves and two cheetahs Thanks Awesome,

who knew black arachnea would be the only other

person to get three besides Starscream megatron

and optimus prime I'm really surprised no one

picked arachnid from prime I was really surprised

that there's more characters from animated than

there are from Prime. I'm just kidding. I'm not

surprised at all. But you did throw me off because

you did not have a single Starscream on your

list, Mike. I debated putting Steve Bloom on

there, but in the end, he just didn't make the

cut. Speaking of things that didn't make the

cut, we're going to take a quick... audio break

and we will come back with some honorable mentions

after this i uh i come in peace you're about

to leave in pieces no need for violence rhinox

i merely wish to talk Maximal fool. He'll soon

regret this impertinence. We Decepticons now

face our darkest hour. Megatron must be stopped,

no matter the cost. Me slag say you full of beryllium

baloney! Me grimlock say you full of cesium salami!

Beryllium baloney! I can't deal with that now!

So it is time for some honorable mentions. How

many honorable mentions do you have, Steve? Ten.

Okay. I have ten too, and the reason I didn't

want to say them at the beginning, because if

we would have mentioned our honorable mentions,

it would have been obvious that they were not

on our actual list, which defeats some of the

mystery about what our list are going to be.

Thank you. Anyway, I just wanted to clear that

up since I got lost in the intro. But I got ten.

Michael how many honorable mentions do you have?

Three Seriously? Let me go back and count. I

like it. No, two. Shorter and sweeter. I have

ten as well. Wow. Why bother coming up with the

top ten list if you're just gonna have another

top ten list? Well, we're not gonna go through

all of these, but I'm just saying that that I

have you know because the One of them, actually,

before the show we said doesn't count. The only

reason why I want to bring him up is because

it's interesting who they had voice him, Jazz

from the Michael Bay movies, because they had

Darius McCrary, Eddie from Family Matters with

Urkel as the voice of Jazz. Ed, Edd, and Eddie.

So wrong. Swindle from Animated, he's just awesome.

We've talked about him. I really liked how they

developed Miko in Prime, and she's a much better

female human character than Sari could ever be.

Oh, those fighting words. The clones from Animated,

they were awesome. Don't listen to him, Tara.

Don't listen. He knows not what he speaks. Shut

the hell up. The Starscream clones, because they

made them look like, uh... All the other Seeker

jets, those were awesome. Rat Trap from Beast

Machines specifically, I liked him turning dark.

I liked the episode where he actually went to

Megatron. I thought that was an interesting character

turn for him. And Silverbolt from Beast Machines.

I loved Silverbolt when he went to the Dark Knight.

The comedy stuff in Beast Wars is alright, but

I needed something different, and I'm very happy

with where they went with him in Beast Machines.

And the other one that I'll mention is Bulkhead

from Prime. I loved Kevin Michael Richardson

as Bulkhead. That was the best Bulkhead out of

the two that we have. Kev, which ones do you

want to talk about? Well, I'm going to expand

it, obviously. Since I gave you my ten, I have

ten other ones. Don't hold your breath, though.

I will not say the word animated anywhere in

this. I actually considered Jazz. You all know

you paid it. I considered the animated version

of Jazz, actually. That was the one that I was

closest to putting on my list. The two that got

knocked out because of my inclusion of Optimus

Prime and Megatron would have been Mirage and

Prowl from G1. Two more of my favorite characters.

As far as Prime goes, some characters that I

really liked. Knockout. I think he added a lot

to that show, was kind of unique with that. I

didn't mind Smokescreen from Transformers Prime

or the Shockwave version, or the Transformers

Prime version of Shockwave. Real close to making

the list from Beast Wars was Tarantulas. We didn't

really mention him, although I guess we kind

of mentioned him when we were talking about Blackarachnia,

but I think he was a kick -ass character. Like

Sideswipe, I like Galvatron and Cyclonus. for

a complete unknown I'll throw in Beachcomber

he was cool yeah and I somewhat liked Skywarp

the idea of Skywarp and Thundercracker I just

don't think they've ever been executed correctly

so G1 they were pretty much yeah that would be

the version I'd go with I guess but yeah so those

are the ones that I liked it didn't make quite

make the cut what about you Michael I would say

There was a couple from Beast Wars that I would

have included. I'm just gonna say Scott McNeil.

I really liked Waspinator. I really liked Dinobot.

I really like Rattrap. I thought about Dinobot

too. Yeah, and any of those three really, you

know, should have made the cut. I couldn't choose.

It was really hard. I think I'm the only one

that finds Rattrap annoying. Well, I mean that's

part of this, you know charm though, I guess

yeah He's kind of offensive kind of annoying,

you know, but at the same time he's flawed and

he feels bad about it You know, he wants to be

better From prime I like Starscream but not more

than g1 Starscream Prime Starscream is kind of

like g1 Starscream with lot more to Steve Bloom

Which arguably is awesome because I really like

Steve Bloom But I gotta I gotta go with g1 Starscream

and I also wanted to throw in Armada Starscream

in there again different character Different

guy what you threw those those are in your top

ten Armada Starscream and g1 Starscream are both

in my top ten, but yeah honorable mentions I'm

saying Prime Starscream is in my honorable mention.

He's a Starscream fan is what he's saying. Yeah,

I couldn't put him in with the rest because I

already had two in my top 10 list. Right. And

then the other one from Prime would be RC. And

again, for what, what, what you said. Sumali

is awesome. She's She's just fantastic, and she

did a really good job with that character. The

writers did a decent job with the character.

I can't often compliment the writers of Prime,

but I really enjoyed the way they handled that

particular character. You can't often compliment

them, but you can often insult them on Facebook.

I'm gonna go on mute so that I don't go down

a right hole here. Alright, that's all I got.

I mean, besides Monk of Spanka... who has the

best name in Transformers fiction uh and honestly

I thought I for some reason I thought Monka Spanka

was the little rodent that that created Unicron

in the third season uh but that's a different

guy uh Monka Spanka according to the wiki is

um uh is Jazz Jazz the monkey spanker But uh,

but I remember in tfg1 the podcast we had so

much fun with that particular episode because

it's like monkey spanker His name was monkey

spanker and they got away with it I don't even

remember which episode that was of the show.

It was uh, the first the first episode of um,

five faces of darkness Oh Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

we had a lot of fun with that Steve your honorable

mentions I had Transformers Prime, Ratchet and

Optimus, just because I liked the characters.

I had G1, Megatron, Galvatron, Wheeljack, Soundwave,

and Scourge. I like all those characters. Beast

Wars, I had Dinobot and Tarantulas. Yeah, you

know one of the reasons why Miko made my honorable

mentions is because of what they did in chain

of command like I don't think I've Really had

a slack -jaw moment with a lot of homages over

the years But the fact that they basically homage

the old exo suit as the apex armor with when

she puts that on that was so awesome I didn't

like that A lot of things about prime. No, I

mean honestly She this particular character has

spent several seasons tripping over things and

attracting the attention of the bad guys and

every time Bulkhead says no don't do that because

you're gonna get us in trouble. She just runs

in and trips over herself and no look we're in

trouble now Suddenly she puts on this exosuit

and she becomes a ninja I'm calling bullshit

Just, it was too convenient. Don't like it. Do

not like. Any, uh, any other - We're gonna have

to do a wars episode of Prime vs. Animated. No

contest. No contest. Yeah. Michael said no contest.

He'll be the only one voting for Animated though,

so that's alright. What? Michael, back me up.

Well, you know what that means Mike who has a

history of having the wrong opinion Jackasses

any other final words relevant to this countdown?

Transformers characters. They're fun to talk

about. Yeah. Yeah, this is fun. I was like that's

what she said Oh, I beat you to it. That's what

she said. Alright, Steve, take us out. Thank

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