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Hello and welcome to All Things Transformers

version 2 .0 episode 31. Don't interrupt me!

This is not an interrupting cow season! I figured

Megatron in his old age would have forgotten

what episode we were on. No! Yes. You're an asshat.

Yes. Shut up, dumbass. The name's Dumas. Dumbass.

Anyways, I'm your host, Steve Megatron Phillips,

and as usual, joining me is the typical dumbass

of the network. Yeah, Steve Megatron Phillips,

exactly. No, my... My TFG1 blood shirt. Hello.

Hello. We had a fan request for Optimus Solo

to be in this episode when we talk about Transformers

Prime. That sadly could not happen because Pizza

the Hutt is overworking him to the point where

he just loses all interest in doing anything

fun whatsoever. I will say that Optimus Solo

will be in our episode when we talk about Transformers

Prime overall. once the series actually ends

and then of course down the line we have no idea

when it's gonna happen but when we actually get

to doing our transformers prime review podcast

he will also be in that but we have to do tfg2

podcast first yes yes we do at the same time

but then we just go insane well you'd go insane

yeah pretty much I'm pretty much there now as

if we didn't know fuck you No thank you, I've

had better offers. Don't you have tentacles to

go tend to, Megatron? No, but you have a purple

dinosaur to go fuck. No, that's your job. You're

the one that's in love with Barney. No, he just...

Well, he's my bitch. And you're Barney's bitch.

No, not at all. You love Damien Wayne. No, not

at all. Moving on. What else is new with you

lately? Since there hasn't been an episode since.

You don't even know how to come back from your

own damn comeback. Oh god, I remember it was

at last, no it wasn't last year, it was a couple

years ago on this show. We basically stated that

we weren't going to cover comics news because

neither one of us cared about comics. Well, for

me, that has severely changed, because I am reading

Transformers More Than Meets the Eye, one of

IDW's ongoings. I'm also reading the other ongoing,

Robots in Disguise. I'm also reading Transformers

Prime Beast Hunters, the comic that's supposed

to tie Fall of Cybertron and Transformers Prime,

the animated series, together. So yeah, I'm pretty

much full on into Transformers comics as of right

now. Yay. The current stuff. I don't know whether

I'll be going back to any of the Mike Kosta stuff.

I seriously doubt it because Ender has given

it nothing but bad reviews. That's why you read

the old Marvel stuff. Yeah, I'm really enjoying

the current stuff. I don't like... It would be

different if I had grown up with the old Marvel

stuff and kind of knew about it, but as I told

Ender in one of the pullback episodes, the only

thing Transformers book -wise I ever knew about

was some dumb elementary scholastic storybook

dealing with Wheely and Wheely's parents back

in the 80s. uh... so you know i i mean eventually

i might go to the old marvel stuff but right

now i'm perfectly fine and happy with with uh...

with what i do is currently doing with transformers

uh... you know i've been just watching transformers

prime when it airs and uh... reading transformers

comics and checking up on the movie stuff here

and there uh... game stuff they're really follow

cyber trance bent out There really is no I mean

there's been mention of transformers universe,

but there's not really Like right now the biggest

thing and that's the reason why we don't have

a whole lot of game news later on but The biggest

thing right now is transformers legends the mobile

game. Well, I have no interest in that because

I don't have a mobile device Understandable.

Yes. What about you? What have you been up to?

I'm in the attempt of upgrading my computer Don't

quite have the funds to get all the way done

with it, but I'm making the attempt Also Almost

done with my one class that I have which is intro

to business. I'll be done with that in a couple

of days My other class my English is online so

that won't be done until August unfortunately

this year I won't be going to TF con which I

kind of wish I was but I'll probably end up doing

that next year or the year after it kind of just

depends on how things fall working on beta version

of Geek guest radio recorded a couple Star Trek

episodes for M wire well one so far but there'll

be another one soon Pretty much, I think that's

pretty much been it for the most part. Yeah,

TFCon this year is going to be ... Wicked. It's

going to be wicked. Alex Milne is going to be

there, one of the comic book artists. Another

comic book artist, Casey Collier. Their attendee

exclusives have been revealed. Writer James Roberts,

the current ongoing More Than Meets the Eye is

going to be there. uh... the oh my god venus

terzo black arachne is going to be there i'm

surprised you didn't just say to your wife i'll

give up everything let me go i need to meet black

arachnea uh... no if they were if they were david

k i probably would have yeah but you've met him

already a couple times haven't you no i've never

met him not in person Yeah, so, yeah. And the

only reason why I'm bringing this up now is because

I'm actually on TFCon's website, tfcon .ca, and

I'm looking at it, you know, and they don't have

a Proto Man or Super Megatron or whoever it is

needs to get on having an actual menu for their

entire guests list, but Jack Angel's gonna be

there, one of his rare comic convention appearances.

Jack Angel, for those that don't know, voiced

Astrotran and Ultra Magnus in Season 3. They've

got a ton of guests. Dick Gaudier is gonna be

there, who was Rodimus in season 3 of G1. Yeah,

the TFCon guest list is just off the chain this

year. It's gonna be so awesome. I wish I could

go. Yeah, I can say that it was quite an amazing

experience going last year. Getting to meet Scott

McNeil and Bob Budiansky and then Several other

TF fixtures of the past and then of course you

have all the awesome fans that were there Yeah,

which I got to meet and I get to see There a

lot of their like the fan audio play kind of

thing they did with McNeil and Neil Ross But

yeah, it's such an amazing and fun experience

and you get to meet all kinds of people from

all over the Transformers fandom like I saw people

from TFW and from Iacon Hub and several other

places on the fandom. Just to kind of switch

this around to the US side, BotCon's guest list

is equally impressive because they're finally

stepping out of G1's shadow. Beast Wars! Not

necessarily they have a writer from Beast Wars.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah Glenn Moore shower General Moore

shower from the movies is gonna be at BotCon

James Horan is gonna be there who is the voice

of wheeljack and Transformers Prime David Soboloff

is gonna be there voice of depth charge in Beast

Wars What would be cool to meet him? Yeah, it

would be I can't believe he almost looks like

Stone Cold Steve Austin a little bit in this

picture. Or he looks like, uh, bald John McClane

in another picture. Yeah, he's currently the

voice of Shockwave on Transformers Prime. Wally

Burr is gonna be there, and this doesn't bother

me as much as it bothered some of the rest of

the fandom. Jason Jensen, the more -than -meets

-the -eye kid from the old toy commercials is

- I don't mind it, because I always wonder, what

the hell happened to that kid? I don't mind it.

I mean, it's not like it's... I smashed him with

a rock. It's not like it's the end of the friggin'

world. Now... It could be. Well, here's a little

bit, not necessarily more interesting, but here's

the other interesting thing is, the entire cast

and writers, producer, co -creator, of a certain

kid's Transformers cartoon is going to be there.

You're going to have Brian Holffield, the writer

-producer on Rescue, but basically the entire

cast of Rescue Bots. Story editors, voice actors,

Steve Bloom's going to be there, Purvish Cheena,

D .C. Douglas, Imari Williams, Maurice LaMarche.

Maurice LaMarche is gonna be at BotCon ladies

and gentlemen. That's awesome. I am not kidding.

I will send you the link so you can see. Who

did he play? In rescue bots he plays the cop.

Ah, okay. he plays uh... i was trying to figure

out what on the original transformers cartoon

is one of the metroplex troops six gun uh...

transformers fans can tune in nowadays to hear

him as the voice of chief charlie burns co -leader

of the rescue bots yeah he's the he's the police

officer which if mo himself had a mustache he

would look just like the animated character uh...

Jason Marsden, Jason Marsden is gonna be a, I

cannot believe this. Jason Marsden is gonna be

a BotCon people. It's just so awesome. But yeah,

the entire cast and crew of Rescue Bots is gonna

be there. Very, very awesome and interesting

between BotCon and TFCon. And I know for a fact,

speaking with Lady Rick a couple weeks ago over

on the pull bag that, steve bloom and all of

them guys are going to be over there auto assembly

in the u k as well and it's just this year it

seems to be the conventions are really going

out of their way to and i'm not saying they haven't

done this in the past but specifically to botcon

you look at last year's guest list compared to

this year's last year was pretty much all g one

stuff you know i'm not saying there's anything

wrong with that i'm just saying like uh... it's

the last couple years of one of our kind of kind

of reach out and kind of spread their wings a

little bit because next year is the thirtieth

anniversary of transformers so hopefully in twenty

fourteen for the thirtieth anniversary bot con

can actually get frank welker for more than just

a you know hey i'm gonna walk through this convention

hall for about a second you know i i'm hoping

that next year they can actually get frank on

a panel or for some autographs or something.

That would be awesome if they could get Welker

for the 30th anniversary of the franchise for

BotCon. That would be great. uh... but no that's

really what's going on with the with the guest

list on the conventions and it's it looks pretty

it looks like it's gonna be some damn good fun

i know i guess that lady rec one of our friends

and going off to bottom this is going to be going

i know mariah baby and one of my friends uh...

kelly carrie show is going to balkan so you know

a lot of people that are going to balkan this

year i don't know if michael wilson is going

i don't think he is uh... but uh... Yeah, it's

gonna be interesting to see what comes out of

the conventions this year. Oh, definitely. I

just wish I could go... I know. I know. Yeah.

But, um, switching gears. Hey, gears. Oh, man.

It's been a long week. And it's only Monday.

I know, right? I guess we'll jump over to the

Transformers 4 BS. Oh, you're gonna start with

that? I was gonna start with the... Okay, yeah,

we can start with that. That's fine, because

the Transformers news from the International

Licensing Expo doesn't really matter all that

much, but... No, not really. For movie news,

the first story we have is no Colonel Lennox

cameo on Transformers 4. Meh, I could care less.

Josh DeHamel not returning. And through a bunch

of other stuff on TFW, he says the actor finally

gave a solid answer, apparently through Twitter

or something. Said, nope, I'm not in the next

one. With that tidbit, Tyrese Gibson's cameo

appearance is also in question at the moment.

It I never even though I have huge amounts of

issues with parts of the Transformers films Specifically

to the dumbass kid that stars in the in the three

of them and the dumbass parents at times I never

had an issue with Josh to Hamill and Tyrese Gibson

as as the lead characters for the military I

never had an issue with them. So either way,

I'm not really that concerned that they're not

coming, or at least De Hamel's not gonna come

back. They're saying Tyrese is not set in stone

either. Yeah. The next one is Peter Cullen and

Frank Welker talk Transformers 4. Speaking to

Zap2it, Mr. Cullen spoke a bit about Optimus

Prime's redesign for the upcoming Michael Bay

movie Transformers 4. He says, and I quote, I'm

always fascinated by the design changes because

what could be more realistic than something that

transforms and can change itself? Colin told

Zap to it. And cars change every year. They come

off the design tables and the clay models. And

before you know it, you've got a brand new look

to a car. I like it that way. I'm excited to

find out what Mr. Bay is going to do for the

next look. After all, he's always going to look

like that. Optimus Prime statue and transformers

the ride 3d He's always going to transform into

something pretty close to that Meanwhile, mr.

Welker is waiting to see if he'll return for

the fourth installment He says quote Yet to be

determined Welker admitted. I'm not sure I did

the last two I'm waiting to see and usually don't

know until the very end But I'm really looking

forward to seeing what Michael does. He's always

out does himself. So he's got big shoes to fill

when he's um when he's feeling especially when

he's feeling his own shoes it will be a lot of

fun to see and what he comes up with um you know

we can't have a transformers movie without peter

obviously is the voice of optimus if they were

to actually uh somehow resurrect megatron himself

and have welker be the voice instead of hugo

weaving i wouldn't mind it but i would actually

i would actually uh like that yeah I'd like it

too I mean I think weaving did a damn good job

yeah just I don't know that guy is such a pompous

asshole though everything he's in he he's like

I don't want to do another one of those oh I

don't wanna you know and he'll just pan everything

he's been in like Captain America transformers

Lord of the Rings I mean he's just a douchebag

okay just saying All righty then Next up for

movie news we've got Michael Bay says rumors

of Transformers 4 title are false Says director

Michael Bay stopped by his official website.

I love how it always says stop by his official

website They always say that you know Even though

it's probably just bullshit. Anyway, the rumor

is the title for transformers 4 is rise of Galvatron

It says, these rumors are flying around from

various media sites about the title of the next

Transformers. I wanted you to hear directly from

me that we have not yet chosen a title and anything

being reported is absolutely not true. When we

have a title to announce, I promise you will

hear it from me first. Right. Yeah. I actually

want to see Galvatron in a live -action movie.

I want to see whether they use a tank design,

and I know they probably would, but I want to

see if they would use a tank design or if they

would use a rolling tank cannon design. I would

be really interested to see what they would do

with Galvatron. Yeah, it would be interesting

to see what did they do. I would hope that they

would give them a little bit more color than

what they gave Megatron just being... A heap

of twisted metal. Not even Sweet Tooth can save

him. In other Transformers 4 news, the teaser

poster was revealed. And it's just a four with

a half a decepticon symbol. I know, do we really

need... yeah. That's lame. Yeah, that's a teaser

poster, alright. Well, I mean that's and this

is kind of off -topic, but that's kind of like

the dumbass Teaser poster that came out for Ninja

Turtles. It just it's a green poster with black

letters. It says Ninja Turtles on it It's all

it says like it would be cool if you know Because

supposedly with this new Transformers movie Bay

has said oh, it's gonna be totally different.

It's gonna be a different story It's gonna be

different characters gonna be this this this

and this and this and this and this If it's going

to be a different story than what we've already

seen, so instead of the tagline, our war, their

world, because Cybertronians come to earth, blah

blah blah, some sort of, like with this teaser

poster, I would have loved to have seen some

sort of tagline, some sort of catchphrase or

something to pull us in, because... For with

half a decepticon symbol isn't like I'm gonna

go see the movie anyway It's fucking Transformers

on the big screen regardless. This is exactly

why in General, I don't enjoy reporting on movie

to the Ninja Turtles thing and with Transformers

Michael Bay is doing a small film. So he's his

production company is on the other one Yeah,

so I mean it's kind of to be expected. Getting

into the comics news, this is very interesting

stuff here. This September IDW gets animated.

Prepare for your favorite IDW comics to get a

little more animated than usual this September.

All month long IDW will be publishing special

IDW gets animated variant covers. rendered in

the vein of classic cartoons. Ever wondered what

the X -Files, Mulder and Scully would look like

as colorful hijinks having monster chasers? Oh

god, X -Files Scooby -Doo crossover, that doesn't

sound right at all. Everyone want to see the

mighty judge dreaded as a rubber -jointed 70s

warrior? Of course you have! Luckily for you

intrepid readers, so have we. This September

only eager fans will be able to find the following

titles with special IDW gets animated variant

covers. Let's see, while the content of the books

will be the same, these variant covers are going

to be a vivid blast of cartoon madness. It's

going to be fun month to say the least, so fans

are urged to drop their local comic shop a line

and reserve their copies now. Alright, so the

variant covers... Okay, yeah, let it drop the

ball, TFW. Nice. IW gets animated, here we go.

Okay, so... The checklist is Black Dynamite...

Number one, Danger Girl the Chase number one,

Doctor Who number thirteen, Ghostbusters number

eight. The Ghostbusters one looks cool because

it's the real Ghostbusters. G .I. Joe, G .I.

Joe a real American hero number one ninety four.

What else is on this list? Judge Dredd number

eleven, Popeye, Ninja Turtles new anime adventures

number three. uh... transformers more than meets

the eye number twenty one uh... and of course

x -files so uh... september is going to be a

weird ass month for us with comics it really

is because you've got idw doing this and you've

got dc towing villains month so it's going to

be really interesting uh... to see that alright

uh... The last bit of comic news I've got is

trade paperbacks for November 2013 Transformers

art of prime due November 5th and presumably

an art book covering the complete 68 episode

run of Transformers prime from darkness rising

to Predacons rising. Oh, well Transformers more

than meets the eye volume 5 do out Do out November

19th and widely expected to contain the Remain

in Light arc, which is currently going on. Movie

collection volume 2, Transformers Classics UK

volume 5. Do out December, no indication of which

issues are included. Well, obviously the more

than meets the eye stuff, the volume for that

I'll get it, you know, because I'm collecting

those anyway. I just wish there was an image

to go along with it. But, I mean, that's pretty

much all the comic news. I mean, like, I'm really

enjoying the comics. I think they're great. If

you start from the ground up, it's not that hard,

especially with More Than Meets the Eye. That's

a funny book. And it's really interesting because

I never thought that I would, like, unless it

was characters I would know. Like, I went into

that book expecting I would not enjoy it. The

only two characters in the very beginning of

the book that I even know. are well because it

starts out with the death of optimus prime obviously

the classic characters optimus starscream bumblebee

rodimus but after that when i guess in the regular

issues rodimus and cyclonus are really the only

two characters i know you've got a character

named worl rung uh... chrome dome and rewind

i kinda know rewind i know but not in the context

of what's in more than meets the eye but it it's

really interesting and i can't wait for the more

volumes of that to come out Anybody want to follow

Cybertron calendar? Nope. I don't know anybody

that uses calendars anymore. I know really unless

they're on their phones But it is kind of cool.

It's a nice little It's a nice little piece The

optimus though on that first image fight for

freedom and almost every class I was going to

say, because the purple background reminds me

of Shattered Glass. And Megatron just looks weird.

It looks like he's just kind of meh. Yeah, and

plus it's going off the game design of Megatron.

The Prime design is much more clean as far as

that goes. But that's pretty much it for news

as far as what we would find that we would actually

be interested in discussing. But I like this

other one that's technically Transformers Prime

related but it's merchandise. It's Transformers

the Covenant of Primus. It's a 176 page book

that is basically the Transformers mythology

in history. Cool and it's in a in case an interlocking

Autobot symbol that when pulled open emits transformer

sounds The tome is a gift to humans from Alpha

Trion one of the ancient 13 primes the first

of the transformers Little is known about Alpha

Trion in the rest of the 13 blah blah blah and

then it says the covenant of primus reveals the

stories of these ancient heroes for the first

time it chronicles the saga of optimus prime

and megatron and covers the full history of the

transformers never before seen illustrations

depict battles portraits of the 13 primes and

detailed scenes of the transformers world offering

insights into their origins the golden age of

exploration the great civil war between autobots

and decepticons and much more says uh it's The

book is the definitive in -world history of the

Transformers. And the shield case is a three

-part interlocking manual opening system and

three classic Transformers audio effects. I think

it's got the transform down sound to the transform

up sound when you open and close it. Yeah, that's

going to be really interesting. I don't know

about the $100 price tag. It's not $100. It isn't?

No, $48. Oh, OK. It's on pre -order right now

on Amazon. But yeah, that's kind of badass Yeah,

it was very badass actually I Just wonder how

big it is Yeah How many pages did you say 176

176 it's a hardcover book. Yeah, so that's that's

probably gonna be It's probably gonna be a little

bit wider than a normal like hardcover written

book since it's probably art because it's art

of primus think of well, it's gonna also have

Not only the history but but art but it's gonna

have Illustrations in it and other images Interesting

very very interesting Yeah, that's gonna be cool.

Like I said, right now, for me and the news,

you know, we haven't been talking about Prime

News. The Prime News on TFW, like, the show is

currently running. It hasn't been on for a couple

of weeks, but it's coming back June 28th with

the next episode for Season 3. And really, all

the Prime News is is, hey, episode title, hey!

Longer description. Hey, here's a press release

with the episode title the long description and

the cast I Mean unless they're gonna add a new

character which they've done in pretty king because

in this next new episode as of this recording

transforms right a king will transform and he

will speak and He has a voice actor. So That's

a piece of news the rest of transformers prime

news is either toys which we don't care about

at this point Or it's just episode tunnels and

episode descriptions. I mean this well, I'll

go through some of them, but uh, okay I mean

obviously episode 9 is the I Think the next big

ones. Yeah, where he transforms and then you

have episode 10 where it says sound wave is captured

by the Autobots Megatron revives an old plan

Episodes called minus one Then you have episode

11 which is persuasion it says Megatron appeals

to ratchet and optimus takes on the Predacon

Then you have 12 which is Synthesis and it says

the Autobots attempt to rescue one of their own

by tracking a Decepticon warship I love how the

writers on TFW for these news articles say A

Decepticon Warship. It's a siege. Well, technically

it could be A because they have two ships on

the show. They have the Harbinger, which is what

Starscream originally used when he dissented

and now the Autobots have been using it because

obviously their base is gone. But the actual

Decepticon Warship is, as you said, the, and

it is the Nemesis. I don't know, whatever. But

no, I'm really loving Prime. I tell you, I know

your main thing about getting new comics is price.

If you like the Dinobots at all, I don't know

if you've ever really enjoyed them, but I'm telling

you, Beast Hunters, man, that series, if you

read Rage of the Dinobots and then read Beast

Hunters, that series is... They're gonna do more

with that series than than anything as far as

the product is I'm betting and I I'm stealing

this the this this bet from somebody else I believe

I heard it on the under base podcast I'm betting

what's gonna happen is they're going to somehow

Once the prime cartoon is over. They're going

to somehow work in the prime characters into

the Beast Hunters comic because right now It's

just the dino bots the dead planet and trying

to survive being on a dead planet of Cybertron

so it's gonna be interesting to see what happens

with the last you know seven or eight episodes

of Prime and see what happens in the future for

Beast Hunters yeah I mean I'll be interested

to see what what happens but I won't be picking

them up But that's just because, you know, personal

preference. Right. I don't read the Transformers

comics. I haven't since Dreamwave. They just

don't interest me. To each their own. But that's

really all that's going on with the news. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that pretty much wraps up the news.

We did get a iTunes feedback For beast unleashed.

Yes, it was for beast unleashed That being It's

from Dan o 23 and it was back in April which

Sorry. Yep This is well done five stars Thank

you. Yes and it says very well done though there

are a few theories i want to throw out and see

what you think one the waters probably for human

organic beings visiting cybertron for the past

300 to 500 years since g1 before megatron took

over the planet in which they probably left before

things really went downhill uh yeah we'll read

the whole thing and then we'll go on uh two could

be the oracle be what happens to the matrix after

it was opened in the return of Optimus Prime

and the living data like in Prime. And thirdly,

Vector Sigma could be a conduit for sparks -like

stasis pods in which a person can manually alter

a personality to a particular faction. Otherwise,

like the early Season 1 DinoBots, it could be

hit or miss what they might do or who they join.

If you have a discussion on these theories, please

do it on all things Transformers with a quick

update on your opinion of Transformers Prime

Beast Hunters or on Wars for a roundtable talk.

Wars is not a roundtable show, it's a debate

show, so that's why we're doing it here. Well,

and Transformers Prime, just to get that out

of the way, I really like the show. I wish they

didn't have so many hiatuses in between. That's

with any cartoon nowadays. I know it's such a

pain. They do like one two three four boom hiatus

Yeah, and it's just I don't it's annoying But

and the problem is and I know I'm gonna take

this off into a tangent about this crap because

it's so annoying, you know First of all, you

know, you're a new father Obviously your son

isn't old enough yet to really understand and

watch and remember when cartoons are on but like

when he gets to that age you're going to want

to be able to tell him okay son your your favorite

cartoon is on at this time and then the next

week oh son sorry no it's not on today it's on

tonight at this like these these channels and

these networks they always move stuff around

like okay this is not transformers related, but

well, technically it could be. Transformers Prime

has pretty much in the beginning when it first

aired on the hub, the first two seasons, there

were times where it was on Saturday night at

730 p .m. Eastern or times when it was on Friday

night at 630 p .m. Eastern. They couldn't decide

which day or night to put it on. Turtles is t

-dreams turtles 2012 series is the biggest offender

with this currently As far as cartoons that I

watch it There was a time where Nick was doing

total turtle takeover Friday with a new episode

at 7 p .m. Eastern and then reruns for the next

hour and a half At first they were doing it Saturday

morning at 11 and they switched that total total

takeover and then they switched it back to say

This whole back and forth crap has got to stop.

Put it on at one friggin' time. I know it's a

lot of money for these shows. I get it. Again,

another example. I heard an interview with the

Phineas and Ferb creators. They said it takes

about 10 months to do one episode. Okay, that's

fine. I get it. It takes a lot of time. It takes

a lot of money. But from what I understood about...

certain things about prime that part of it was

a majority of a season was already done by the

time that the second season had ended so maybe

that's why maybe it's like oh hey we can air

the first six weeks of the show and then we have

to go on hiatus for two months while we get the

other seven weeks of the show done or whatever

else but it's like if you go on too long of a

hiatus people will forget about it like You know

that people were freaking out last week. Oh my

god, my DVR didn't record Transformers Prime.

Was there a new episode? And of course me, I'm

always on the internet. I'm always online no

matter what Microsoft says. Sorry, bad E3 joke.

So I knew that there was no Transformers Prime

this last week because I knew it was coming back

the 28th. But it's like it would help if the

networks and the producers and everything else

would actually get on the same friggin page as

far as when the shows air and really would. Yep.

Thank you for the tangent. Sorry. No, that's

fine. I agree. As for the. First part of your

theories. The water being human organic It really

wouldn't have been only because there were only

really two humans that were to Cybertron and

It's technically yeah, it's a little bit more

advanced, but it's throwing back to Cybertron's

roots Supposedly as far as Beast Wars is concerned

Right and it has actually nothing to do with

the humans So yeah that Not They don't really

clearly explain other than the fact that this

was supposed to be a different series and not

really be a continuation of Beast Wars even though

it was You're ended up that way. Yeah. Yeah,

yeah beast machines. So Like the bones thing

that could technically be like prehistoric Cybertron

Mm -hmm and the Water ish stuff could be as well,

but it had nothing to do with the humans. They

didn't port water It's not even really water.

It's it's organic material. It's organic goo

Yeah, it's you know, it's the secret of the ooze

people is really what it is. We don't know and

then Did you have more on that first part? No,

okay The second part, could the Oracle be what

happens to the Matrix after it was opened in

the return of Optimus Prime and be living data

like in Prime? No, the Oracle and the Matrix

are actually two separate things. It's like,

Vector Sigma, Oracle and the Matrix are actually

like the triumvirate. They are each different

parts of the Transformers mythos personalities.

Right. Vector Sigma gives them life. Oracle gives

them guidance in a sense and the matrix gives

them knowledge Knowledge and wisdom. Yeah, it's

like So between the three they're all they're

all different. It's And they they meant to do

this with I mean, yeah, they all existed in G1

and they didn't really make the correlation but

in beast machines They made it basically a holy

war So you can almost argue that those are you

know? All of you know, if you related it to Christianity,

it would be You know the the father son of the

Holy Ghost type thing which is kind of what they're

insinuating with these In a way, yeah, but they're

all separate Yeah, they are all separate and

vector Sigma could be a conduit for sparks like

stasis pods in which can manually alter a personality

to a particular faction. Otherwise, like the

early Season 1 Dinobots, it could be a hit or

miss, what they might do, or who they join. I'll

let you go first, and then I'll go. I'm sorry

to interrupt, because it couldn't do... Vector

Sigma, specific to the G1 cartoon, Vector Sigma

gave the Aerialbots and the... is it the Stuntacons?

Yeah. The Aerialbots and the Stuntacons, it gave

them life. The Transformers on Cybertron, Optimus

and all those guys took those missiles and planes

and whatever else and built the aerial bots.

They built robots. They built robot bodies out

of all this scrap metal. And then Vector Sigma

infused them with life. It's not a personality

switcheroo machine. It's just not. It wouldn't

do that. Yeah. I have to agree as well. As far

as that stuff's concerned vector Sigma Yeah,

it's not it never operated like it stays his

pod. It doesn't choose It There it creates basically

it creates Personalities from nothing. Yeah,

it creates life. It's like it, you know So the

ones they are given life they're influenced by

whoever happened to bring him to life whether

it be Megatron creating, you know One faction

or of of guys or if it's prime can creating a

section of guys It's you know, the Dinobots were

completely different because that was wheeljack

science experiment. Yeah, they were built on

earth They were built on earth that they were

built with stupid brains, even though why wheeljack

would build them that way Well, the reason why

he built them that way is because the models

he used were the original dinosaurs from the

prehistoric era on earth Like the turn it like

the Tyrannosaurus Rex they they they basically

copy and pasted the dinosaurs from Earth Which

included their tiny brains? I mean we all can't

be Dennis Hopper King Koopa after all Wow Come

on it is the 20th anniversary of Super Mario

Brothers the movie anyway um But no okay the

thing with the Dinobots in general yes in g1

they were they were dumb and that's what most

people remember them as but I'm telling you and

I know you won't do this but I'm telling your

listeners go get it's in trade paperback form

go get Transformers Prime Rage of the Dinobots

it actually does a damn good job of giving the

Dinobots personalities and like it gives the

writing gives them more than what we've ever

gotten in cartoons And it's damn amazing. I can't

say enough good things about Mike Johnson and

Marigold Scott writing Transformers Prime Beast

Hunters. It's just... I want that. I want them

in the Prime cartoon. I know it probably won't

happen with only six or seven episodes left,

but what they're doing with that comic right

now is what we've always wanted with the Dinobots.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more Yes, exactly But

yeah, I think that about rounds it out Yeah,

there's not too much else going on. I I refuse

to report on film locations. Those are not news

items like Transformers 4 is filming in Beijing

That's not a news item or transformers 4 is filming

in Canada Nobody cares if they're at the Twig

Studios. Again, wasn't going there. Well, they

could have been in Saskatoon. A? Yeah, A, that's

right. No offense. We're Canadian brethren. Yes,

there is a fence. There's a fence? They built

it for the... Never mind. Anyways, I think that

about wraps it up. What do you think? Yeah, pretty

much. Like I said, you know, I hate to sound

like a broken record, but... It's broken. Rage

of the Dinobots, Transformers Prime Beast Hunters,

amazing, amazing writing, amazing art. Go get

them, go read them, do whatever you got to do

to get those. Very very awesome stuff. I'm still

looking forward to transformers prime. What's

left of it? After that my outs like it's so weird

isn't it? It's like two years ago. I was like

comics No, I don't want to do anything having

to do with the transformers comics I don't care

about that news, and I was all into toys and

whatever else now. It's like a complete 180 Hey,

there's another x -bone joke is a complete 180

for me or it's like now i just lost all interest

in toys and i'm all about the comics and it's

just it's so so interesting i am kind of curious

to see what they will do for for us fans after

prime whatever that next series next year is

going to be i'm interested to see what they're

going to do but i'm also optimistic and i'm also

i'm Interested optimistic and at the same time.

I'm not really paying attention unless a news

item comes up about it Yeah, I'm kind of the

same way at this point like I don't really frequent

the news But if I see something pop up on Twitter

that kind of peaks my interest. I'm like, oh,

okay. I'll take a look Yeah, yeah, that's pretty

much how I am now as well as far as the movie

goes just released a fucking movie already I

don't care about the news items for the movie.

I just want to see the damn thing Right, you

know, like I said right now the comics is it

is where my head's at That's what she said Shut

up. I should have known that joke was coming

right Yeah, that's what she said Anyways If you'd

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