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to all things transformers episode 14 I'm your

host Steve Megatron Phillips and joining me as

always is the infamous DFT on mic. Hello. Hello.

How are you? Good. How are you besides the broken

ankle? No, no, it wasn't it didn't break. Thank

God if it broke I would not be here so Um, yeah,

it's getting better. It's on the mend so I'm

more so walking like a penguin now rather than

an undead zombie So it's it's penguin is better.

Yeah. Yeah Undead zombie is the worst thing in

the world where I can barely walk penguin is

like I can walk but I'm still limping well, just

don't go and My god like the 60s Batman Oh, Burgess

Meredith, we miss you. Stitcher, Smart Radio,

the smart way to listen to radio. Ah, yes. So

we're here to talk about Transformers. And for

us, because we don't really care about a lot

of the toy news, because most of the toy news

is, um, Dark of the Moon toy news or third party

stuff, there really is only two news items that

we have. This week and this time around Yes And

the news is Starting off with Transformers Dark

of the Moon home release. Yes. They actually

have the press release out for it now With actual

imaging and the Twitter thing of number TF3 Friday

Yeah, hashtag TF3 Friday here and Yes, they're

gonna have it on blu -ray DVD combo DVD digital

download and on -demand Yeah, I think I said

it in our dark in the moon episode If I get dark

of the moon if I get any of them again I'll probably

just buy them through iTunes to digital download

I'm so far out of DVD collecting at this point

because obviously last year I had to sell off

my entire DVD collection. I just don't, I don't

care about store exclusives. I don't care about,

you know, oh my god, if you buy it from this

store, you're going to get this. If you buy it

from that store, you're going to get this. If

you buy it from here, it'll be a steel book.

If you buy it from here, it'll be Bumblebee's

head on a stick. You know, I just don't care.

about special packaging anymore? Yeah, I have

to agree with you. Although, I'm not going to

buy mine through iTunes or Amazon. Yeah, you're

going to get an actual physical copy, but see,

with me, I don't care. Honestly, I don't really

care about physical copy anymore. See, to me,

it's whatever happens to be on sale that particular

week. yeah that's true too so if the dvd is on

sale i'll get that if the blu -ray is on sale

then i will get that yeah yeah but but and it's

a big but no um i i'm not quite sure whether

i'm gonna get it on dvd or blu -ray at this point

but i would honestly like to get it on blu -ray

yeah uh But I'm not quite sure I'm probably more

than likely gonna get it on DVD just because

it's how I got revenge of the fallen yeah, and

The first film was to me really the only one

worth getting on blu -ray considering. I got

it for like $15 that way I'm probably not gonna

get it on the complete series said I'm not gonna

get it with any of the 3d garbage. I'm not gonna

get You know, the six disc or nine disc or however

the hell they're gonna market this. Yeah, the

marketing campaign for this, they are just blowing

the marketing campaign up as far as it's a mass

market campaign over TV, print, radio, online.

It's gonna be everywhere. Yeah, it's gonna be

everywhere for sure. Like I said, I'm... I'm

hoping that it's cheap, which it probably will

be. I'll just go to Walmart. I'm sure it'll be

for like $15 for the DVD. But yeah, that's in

any case. And some really, really surprising

news. TV shows on DVD .com broke the news with

a press release. That we are getting transformers

prime dark rise darkness rising on on DVD five

-part original miniseries hitting home entertainment

shelves Nationwide on it on DVD December 6 2011

from dun -dun -dun a shout factory So this actually

means we will get no matter how many seasons

Transformers Prime gets on TV Whatever the last

season is we'll actually get a DVD of that season

unlike certain other Animated shows fucking Cartoon

Network Yeah, well Eventually, I'm sure shout

will get animated and Beast Machines Although

Beast Machines technically doesn't need a remit

redo, but I'm sure that they'll give it their

own little twist um... so i'll still probably

obtain that and uh... prime animated yes i'm

excited to see prime actually and dvd so that

one i can empty out the space on my uh... web

domain because it's about five hundred megabytes

there yeah just from the first five parter uh...

the suggested retail price of the disk is fourteen

ninety seven Yay So now I'm just wondering is

it gonna be worth getting the miniseries or Should

we wait until the season one where it might I

honestly think we should wait but that's My personal

opinion is what I'm thinking is it's because

it's gonna be a part of the whole thing anyhow

Yeah, so it might be just beneficial. I mean

if you have to have it I would say to get it.

Yeah the the only way I would say that you would

have to get this and it doesn't it hasn't shout

hasn't released any info as far as I know about

like if they're gonna be any special features

on this if it's gonna have commentaries or anything

like that if it's just the five episodes on one

or two discs or whatever if it's just the five

episodes by themselves I'm waiting for a season

or I know prime is still in its infancy a season

or or a complete series set because if it's just

the five episodes That's not worth double dipping

paying 15 bucks now or well in in December $15

in December and then say February the full season

comes out for 25 bucks you that's Well see, and

this is almost the same thing as what they did

with G .I. Joe and Transformers Generation 1.

They had the first five episodes on a mini series

disc and then they had them all again in the

season set. So I'm thinking that's going to be

the same thing. I think they're going to kind

of gauge sales on it. Oh yeah, that's why they

do stuff like this. It's definitely a feeler.

Oh yeah. So damn it people, buy it anyway just

so that... You could turn around and sell it

at your pawn shop afterwards Or give it away

as a freebie or something to a nephew a son daughter,

whatever just Give it to somebody young get them

attached. They could buy the damn toys damn it

Now the toys for primer supposedly supposed to

be hitting shelves November and December this

year. So around the same time Yeah, the toys

look really, really good. A lot of the Voyagers

look really, really interesting, so... Yeah,

I'm just loving Prime. You probably won't be

hearing much Prime discussion from us, because,

well, Teletoon actually jumped the gun in Canada,

and after they aired episode 23 of Transformers

Prime, Hasbro and Hub Network basically told

Teletoon, look, don't... air anymore because

the hubs whole marketing scheme for the final

episodes of this season 21 through 26 was September,

October, November sweeps so that's why we haven't

gotten any here in the US but Canada had and

you know As sticklers as we at All Things Transformers

are, we reviewed all three episodes before they

were actually aired here in the US. So episode

21 just aired this past weekend, so we have to

wait a few weeks before we can review an actual

new episode to us of Transformers Prime. And

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off the site. I'm not playing the piracy game

with that. Oh yeah, that's the thing. As soon

as the DVDs come out, that's the way people need

to go buy the DVD. Well, not only that, but I

don't want to waste the hard drive space for

my web server. I need it for podcasting, god

damn it. Each episode is an episode of a podcast.

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Now back to all things Transformers. And now

we're back with all things transformers for the

discussion part since TF prime is no longer on

television for a little bit So it's airing but

we're we are so far ahead that well, we jumped

the shark cuz teletune did yeah so Therefore

go ahead with your skybite Yeah, at least it's

not the low -road joke I would kill oh come on

skybite is a shark is he not Yes, okay, then

at least it's not the low road joke that's been

going around on various forms kill these people

I Kill you all they totally back to the low road

That's where I'll bury all you bastards Anyways

on with your discussion idea what you know with

the movies kind of Done. I mean, Dark of the

Moon is coming out on DVD. Transformers Prime

will be... I don't know how much of a hiatus

that it's going to take between Season 1 and

Season 2, but it's currently in its final episodes

of Season 1. What is your opinion of the state

of the Transformers fandom at this point? Well...

My thoughts about it are... I think that one

they need to stay the hell away from movies for

a while Just because they've kind of burned it

out. It just needs to stop As for As for the

The cartoon I'm hoping that it keeps going depending

on how well the hub does I mean because I mean

look they killed G .I. Joe Renegades. That was

Cobra's fault though. Yeah, it was because Cobra

Commander didn't look like Cobra Commander, so

they they shut it down. I don't know. I'm fine

with I'm fine with TF Prime. I think the toys

should have come out a lot sooner, like after

the five part miniseries. Yeah. Well, I'll see

the thing with the toys is though the problem

with that is at the time that Prime started Yeah

the film the movie and the movie toys and they

they they go through those cycles to where and

I'm actually glad that Transformers Prime in

addition to like generations and whatever else

Hasbro has planned for the rest of this year

and going into next year I'm glad that Transformers

Prime toys aren't going to be de -shelled by

movie toys. I'm glad that they've actually approached

this a hell of a lot better than when they did

animated. Because the movie line, The Revenge

of the Fallen movie line just killed animated

toys. Which sucks. I think that... I honestly

think that people might... Mean you're still

gonna have the hardcore fans like us that love

g1 that love Beast Wars Beast Machines that love

it some that love animated some that don't and

Some that may not like Beast Wars or Beast Machine

still or or g1 You're still gonna have those

fans that have been hardcore for years, but as

far as like a general fandom thing without a

movie I Think the fandoms kind of gonna take

a step back And I don't mean that in a bad way,

I just mean that it's kind of like, I hate to

compare the Transformers fandom to this, but

it's kind of like 3D in the 80s. It was a nice,

great fad for about three or four years. It died

and it didn't come back till about a year and

a half ago. Now, I'm not saying that's what's

going to happen with Transformers. Transformers

is a very, very strong fan base. I just don't

think it's going to be in the limelight as much

as it has been. the past four years with these

three movies that we've had. Yeah, I do think

it will die out a little bit, but I'm not...

I'm hoping that it doesn't die too much to where

they can't resurrect it unless they need to do

another Beast Wars. Maybe in... true 3d this

time with the original voice actors and maybe

take the story in a different direction but keep

them do i need to slap you awake because you're

dreaming dude i know i know it's a pipe dream

it could happen it's it's a pipe dream but the

toys overall i can't i don't know the the prime

toys i'm i'm good with the rest of it kind of

meh They kind of, I don't know, ram too much

of different lines down your throat. I'm more

of a standard, I don't care about the movie line

whatsoever other than watching the film. I mean,

some of the Dark of the Moon toys this year,

they were very, very good. Some of the Voyagers

were. I love the Voyager Shockwave. Again, I'm

looking at toys nowadays as is this something

like I've mentioned this before I Have considerably

cut back on my toy collecting and it's like,

you know, I'll go to Target or Walmart and I'll

see like I'll see blur I'll see wheeljack. I'll

see thundercracker. I'll see sergeant cup and

At the time I'll want all those figures and I'll

want to have them in my collection two months

down the line I'll be like Don't care about these

guys anymore, and I'll take them and I'll go

sell them and it's like It's one of those things

where the toy collecting for me. It isn't as

special as it used to be So I've kind of like

cut back a lot I mean there's a lot of stuff

that I think that looks really really good and

and you know It's great for the people that love

the collecting to collect, but it I don't know.

It's just one of those things where I'm almost

out of the Transformers toys. I just kind of

have lost interest in the Transformers toy brand.

I mean, it's not anything against it. I don't

dislike it. It's just one of those things where

why waste money on something I'm going to sell

two months down the line. Yeah, the only thing

I think that keeps this brand afloat I mean the

movie has for the last Five six years. Yeah The

only thing that I can see is Video game or part

of yes the video game part of the franchise and

Transformers prime as well as like whatever DVDs

and and toys happen to come out between now and

then but That's pretty much the only thing to

look forward to at this point Yeah, I mean, you

know, we're not comic people when it comes to

the current state of Transformers comics That's

why we kind of haven't really mentioned that

And as I said in a previous episode, I am super

excited later this month to see And to get and

read Transformers Exiles the sequel book to Exodus

But other than that I mean, I don't know what

else Hasbro has in line for Generations. I don't

know what other lines they have in mind besides

Prime. Are they going to make Prime the main

line or make Generations the main line? You know,

normally, okay, last year you had Revenge of

the Fallen. You had the Generations line that

just, you know, basically... universe three point

oh that started up yet park or combine as your

rescue box you had all you you have like five

different lines from hasbro for transformers

you had all the selection right now all as i

see is dark of the moon dark of the moon dark

of the moon because that's what it is that's

popular at the moment transformers primes in

the come out so what other four lines i know

i know the generations line is coming back so

that's three lines right there but i mean Eventually,

the Dark of the Moon line is going to taper off.

So what else is Hasbro going to give us in toy

form? You know, maybe go back to some characters

from G1 that haven't gotten the Generations treatment

yet. We just don't know. Yeah, I'm thinking that

very well may happen. Yeah. Because that's pretty

much the only thing to go to. But I also think

that they need to go back and redo some figures

that were done piss poorly a long time ago. Yes,

this is coming full circle. You're going back

to Beast Machines, aren't you? Yes, I am, and

Beast Wars. They need some fucking masterpiece

versions of some of these characters or at least

highly detailed versions compared to what they

did back then. The problem IE the primals optimal,

I mean optimal is just way off. I mean, it's

it's close enough, but it's off Transmental Megatron

that's off Let me see the Megatron from Beast

Machines is way off The problem with doing masterpiece

Beast Formers, whether it's Beast Wars or Beast

Machines is that Takara probably won't go for

it. They love their cars there. They love their

mechanical vehicle things They don't worry Takara

doesn't really care about The beast stuff as

far as that's that's my understanding of it if

I could be wrong You know someone can comment

on this episode I might be wrong, but I mean

look at look at the masterpiece line so far you've

got MP01 and you've got him reissued so many

times you got Megatron MP, Starscream MP, Rodimus,

and then they keep going back to Convoy. They

keep going back to Optimus Prime, and they keep

redoing him, repainting him. I can't even count

on one hand how many fucking repaints there are

of Masterpiece Optimus Prime. You know and now

with mp10 being the smaller scaled masterpiece

to fit in line with the size of mp09 Rodimus

Takara just doesn't that's all they care about

is those those major major things and I think

that's kind of sad because I Would love to have

said this plenty of times before on this podcast

I'd love to get a masterpiece sound wave with

masterpiece cassettes. That would be awesome

Are we going to get it? No, probably not because

no one fucking knows what the hell a goddamn

cassette player is. You know, it's not relevant

to the times anymore. I don't know. Now, I could

be wrong. And again, people can comment or write

in to us and let me know if I'm wrong in this.

But one of the reasons why Takara may not do

a masterpiece Megatron dino mode. Hello, they're

a Japanese company. Hello, Godzilla. You know?

So they invented Godzilla. I know, I know. Godzilla!

Look, it's Godzilla! No, it's a facsimile of

Godzilla. Oh God, what the hell is that from?

I know what movie that's from and I can't even

think of the damn title. Anyway, I honestly think

that... Other than hardcore Transformers fans,

fans that have been in the fandom for years,

the mainstream Transformers market is going to

severely taper off without a movie. But at the

same time, it may help it in the sense that they

can like regather, come up with new ideas, and

relaunch something. True. After after pro I would

give them five six years before they even start

trying to redo again Kind of like what they did

was spider -man kind of give it give it some

time and then go back and do something new I

Just you know you know we always say that you

know whenever we have Whenever people have children

of their own Thank God I worded that correctly

um You know that we're gonna teach our kids about

You know what we grew up on and you know get

them into what we were into and whatever else

I Don't see how anyone can get their kids into

the transformers fandom from when they were a

kid because all that stuff It's such niche at

this point and niche as far as it's so far out

of any any realistic you know everyday person's

price range like you can't say you can't you

know show your kid the g1 cartoon and say oh

hey here's omega supreme and this was the toy

i had as a kid that i don't have anymore we can

go on ebay and holy crap omega supreme 250 350

it's like toy collecting and transformers it's

so far gone at this point as far as getting into

the old stuff because there's so much there's

so much great stuff out there but because of

the way that the fandom is gone and ebay and

everything else it's like wow it's unattainable

oh yeah this is this is speaking from experience

because i bought i spent almost a thousand dollars

on three transformers back in 2008 i spent three

hundred and something on a g1 blaster 300 and

something on a G1 Galvatron and 300 and something

on a G1 Soundwave that was complete so I know

and of course back then I was dumb and stupid

and I was just getting back into collecting and

I didn't know anything about eBay prices and

This that the other thing everything else, but

I did spend the money that that kind of money

on those toys and are Do they demand that that

value? Oh, yes, they do because they're very

collectible But it's just you know you can get

your children into like the new cartoons you

can get them into the cartoons but getting them

into toy collecting I highly do not advise it

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so yes check that out Very cool, so what are

you looking forward to and the transformers coming

in the next like week or two? Well obviously

more episodes of transformers prime even though

we are still three episode or two episodes ahead.

Like I said, episode 21 just aired this past

weekend. 22 will be airing this coming weekend

and then 23 the week after that, I think. I actually

cannot wait to get to episode 24 because it brought

back the 80s all over again at the end of episode

23 when they're like to be continued. I'm like,

no, I want to know what happens now. Yeah, I

so can't wait for the last three episodes of

Season 1 of Transformers Prime. I was like going,

uh... I so wanted to see the rest. I was like,

nooo! Exactly. Yes! When it actually gets to

the point that it needs to be. Yeah. Exactly.

So yes, I think that about does it before we

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