All Things Transformers
Transformers Prime Crisscross, Metal Attraction, Rock

About this Episode
Hey, it's David Kaye, voice of Beast Wars Megatron
and TFA Optimus. You're listening to the Geek
Cast Radio Network. Transform and Roll Out! You're
listening to All Things Transformers, version
2 .0! I don't care who you are if you breathe
a word of what you've seen here. You will do
time for treason. Do you understand me? Hello
and welcome to All Things Transformers version
2 .0 episode 12. I'm your host Steve Megatron
Phillips and joining me as always is... TFG and
Mike. Holy crap! Two episodes of All Things Transformers
in almost one week. Wow. Yes, but also a triple
shot of TF Prime. Yeah. Yes, so what have you
been up to? I'm more auditioning for stuff more
toying with a certain site that I can't name
yet Hopefully soon. I'll be able to announce
it and everything but other than that just doing
those two things and Been watching a crapload
of Star Trek the next generation on Netflix since
I figured out if you get past You know like shows
that have over a hundred episodes in them They
only show the first hundred and then if you get
to a certain point the series like say season
four or five The season six and seven start appearing
Mm -hmm the rest of the way so I I can actually
watch all the episodes because now I'm getting
into the good shit from season five six and seven
Awesome. Yes. Yes, and Let's see. What have I
been doing? I've actually been making a bunch
of videos I'm trying to get myself right. I think
I'm at 197 videos on YouTube. My 200th video
is going to be something very special, but I've
been putting videos up. I've been putting tap
video versions, basically the audio podcast versions,
but put to photo mashups, video montage type
of stuff. I've been doing that. What else? Actually
got a new pogo former in from Callie. I'll talk
about that a little bit later because it is transformers
prime related Actually, I'm Actually got some
good news something that you and Michael wouldn't
let me tell you when we recorded tap the other
night Michael kept interrupting me I think the
end of this month, beginning of next month, I
will actually be moving to the best apartment
in the building. So I will no longer be in this
shit hole of a first floor on the parking lot
side apartment. I will be up on the second floor
again in an apartment that pretty much has everything
brand new. So at least my quality of life is
going to, because it's one of those things where
someone, and I don't want to go too far with
this, but I was in a pretty good place back in
January and February. When they asked me to move
over here it just dislodged everything for me.
So But yeah, I'm pretty much getting the best
department in the building very very cool So
there's that just podcasting as usual getting
geocast radio stuff done That's pretty much all
it's been going on with me awesome, yep And with
that we'll jump into the news And no, there'll
be no separator this week because we only have
four articles that are worth talking about So
we'll get right into it starting with some Transformers
animated news Marcelo Mattier working on Transformers
animated related stuff and it's official I guess
he tweeted on Twitter. Yes, that's almost a tongue
twister Saying just finished another TF animated
stuff and it's official stuff Yes, I wonder what
it is I Wonder what it is, too. I don't you know
obviously it's not season four so I mean, maybe
I mean Maybe it's a comic thing. Maybe it's I
Mean obviously he has to do with comics, so I
mean yeah Maybe it's like a continuation or maybe
it's a comic form of season four instead of just
reiterating season one two three I think, let
me look really quick here, I think he is one
of the people that had something to do with the
BotCon comic this year. The Stunticon BotCon
comic, which I have in my hand. Of course, I
can't find all the, you know where it says illustrated,
but yeah. I think he was the one that did something
in the BotCon comic from this year's set, 2011's
Donecon set. It probably is comic related. As
much as I love Transformers animated now, and
as much as it saddens me to have seen it gone
and be canceled, people need to let it go. Derek
J. Wyatt, Marty Eisenberg, Matt Youngberg, as
far as I know from listening to things from them
since the show ended, they would love to, but
we're not getting season four in animation. They've
pretty much said animated is done in animation.
And I believe at BotCon they said this year that
animated is done in toys as well. As far as I
know, I believe they said that this was the last
year that BotCon, or this was the only year that
BotCon was going to use the animated molds for
BotCon toys, whether we get any of the other
ones, like the repaints of Blur and Wasp Man
and all that. As far as I know, they're done
with animated. It's nice to see that this person,
this comic person, whatever he's working on,
is going to be doing stuff. That's great. We're
not getting Season 4 in animation, people. Let
it go. I don't mean to sound pessimistic about
it, and I don't mean to sound negative, but it's
the truth. Well, it's true just in the sense
that they're already in TF Prime. They're not
going back. So, yeah, I can definitely see that.
Moving on, we're jumping into Dark of the Moon,
which... so far has done fairly well. To that
dumbass, British, asshole, wizard. Yeah, Harry
Plopper. I would much rather have a Harry Plopper
and Homer Simpson movie than any of these seven
Harry Potter movies. They aren't that bad. I
mean, I can't bash them because they are decent
and good movies. It's just that it's annoying
to see a wizard with a wand. beat out robots
that could squish him like a bug. I know. Wow,
that would be a really weird crossover. Transformers
4 featuring Harry Potter instead of Shia LaBeach.
I wave my magic wand and poof, Megatron appears.
Yeah. Epic fail on that one, so there you go.
Yup. And then something that I'm really, really
excited about, the cover for Transformers Exiles
has been revealed. This is the upcoming Alex
Irvine book and sequel to Transformers Exodus.
Transformers Exiles is out now on Amazon. Check
it out on the news post on TFW, which we'll have
in our post. Let's see, just a little blurb here.
The epic battles between Optimus Prime and Megatron
have long thrilled Transformers fans, but these
two giants weren't always great leaders and bitter
foes. This new novel continues the electrifying
saga that started with Transformers Exodus, unveiling
the origins of the conflict, the explosive events
that unfolded before Optimus and Megatron arrived
Earthside, forever altering the destiny of their
kind. Yeah, I want this book now. I can't wait
to get this. Yeah, I'm I'm not what was that
snicker about I'm it's not that I wouldn't read
it. I probably would I Quite frankly don't care
about any of the physical written form stuff
anymore See I do I would I outside of the the
two BotCon comics I have and the Transformers
Prime comic what I really cannot read and I I'm
sorry It's more so to do with comic books that
in general than it is to do with Transformers
comics specifically, I just can't read comic
books. I would much rather read a prose novel
like Exodus and Exiles than read comics. I can
see that. Just because comics end up usually
fairly diluted and drawn out. Yeah. I mean, it's
just, yeah. But I... I wouldn't probably read
this in comic form anyway but as for written
form I would read it but I just I quite frankly
don't have the time to sit there and read I am
however looking forward to the continuation in
the form of the war for Cybertron 2 or whatever
they're dubbing it yeah but and I know that this
kind of takes place somewhere around that yeah
as far as what I can tell is Obviously at the
end of exit Exodus and for those of you who haven't
read access either fast -forward or stop this
podcast At the end of Exodus they they're about
to leave Cybertron they are they're blasting
off for areas unknown and According to what exiles
is saying is that the story that they're telling
is The end of that like right before they blast
off before they end up on earth So it's kind
of like it's bridging from the first book to
this one. As far as how it's going to tie into
War for Cybertron 2, we can only speculate at
this point because I haven't, outside of the
fact that I've heard that War for Cybertron 2
is coming, I haven't seen any news items about
storyline or anything for the next game. And
one of the reasons being is because High Moon
Studios worked on Dark of the Moon, so... Yep.
I have no clue. I wish that they would come out.
I can't wait for it, but... Yeah, I think it's
coming out. I think it's coming out next year.
I think. I don't know. Only time will tell. Yep.
yes and jumping to our last article we have beast
wars season two and three announced for show
factory for the separate release not in the complete
series release and for some reason people are
acting like it's such a you know new concept
of wow season two and three are in one set if
you bought The the complete series set you already
knew this and if you bought g1 they kind of did
it with season 3 and 4 Yeah, so it's not really
a new concept Why people are surprised? It's
in a one box. I don't know I Think because people
just remember the Rhino sets being 13 episodes
two discs each The thing about g1 season 3 and
4 It's technically season 3 and rebirth. I Mean
rebirth was it that that was what season 4 was
I mean there really is no season 4. I mean rebirth
you know I Don't know but I think maybe that's
what it is people are like oh my god Why is this
this and you know as you've said plenty of times
before if you can't afford a complete series
set you'll just buy the individual season versions
of that said complete series. So maybe that's
what it is where people are thinking they're
going to get three sets, the season one set that's
been out and then season two and season three.
So maybe that's why they're wondering, oh, why
is it together? Maybe they haven't had a chance
to pick up the complete series, which why the
hell haven't you? I mean, it's been out for over
a month now. Well, and it comes out with the
comic and it's got the nice slip cover. And it's
I mean granted the inside sets are exactly the
same as what they would be regardless Yeah, but
it's just easier to hold on to them I have season
one two and three all separately for the Rhino
sets and then I have the complete series set
from shout and My shout set takes up a lot less
space Being that it only is a little bit thicker
than my season one set of rhinos Mm -hmm, and
it's a lot sturdier I Just I don't like my Rhino
sets like I like them for the features that aren't
included on the shot ones Yeah, I don't like
them overall Yeah But you know people I've you
know, I've said this plenty of times before Especially
with shout factory You'd be paying the same amount
of money for Season one Beast Wars and then the
season two season three death you for those two
DVD sets You'd be paying the same amount of money
as if you just dropped Whatever it is 30 40 bucks
on the complete series set So just get to complete
series set Yes, do it do it now And with that
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Now back to all things Transformers! We are back
here in all things Transformers. And before we
get into the TF Prime episode discussion, I ordered
a Puggleformer from Cali. July was one of her
commission months. The next time she does that
is September. And I wanted something different
this time around. I didn't want to just go with,
oh, let me get a Beast Wars character. Oh, let
me get a G1 character. Oh, let me get a Shattered
Glass character. So... Because I am so engrossed
into Transformers Prime right now I had her make
me Transformers Prime RC Puggleformer and This
thing is so cool. This thing looks just like
RC from the show She's mostly blue. She's got
the little pink and red head crest and the little
pink things on the side of her face one thing
that Callie did with this one is something new
she actually hand painted the eyes Autobot blue
so that was an experiment for her this time around
and it's just very very cool and I had her outfit
RC with a smirk instead of a like a heart face
she has a smirk smirk smile type of thing so
that's very cool Everybody needs to go over to
Deviantart and check her out. She does great,
great stuff with her plushes. And now we're getting
into the Transformers Prime episode discussion.
Yes, and starting off the discussion, we'll be
jumping into Chris Cross. Yes, because neither
Steven or I really realized that the last Transformers
Prime episode we talked about was... operation
breakdown so we have three episodes it was almost
like a like a preview of transformers prime time
it's like there's three episodes to talk about
uh... in crisscross basically what happens is
mech and arachnid team up uh... who who stocks
uh... rc and jack and jack's mom jack's mom ends
up getting kidnapped and of course rc and and
jack have to save her uh... mack trap rc and
they're like oh we have no time so it's best
to cut and run so let's just cut our card out
and go uh... jack has to find his mom rescue
his mom he finds her but doesn't rescue her in
time because uh... arachnid only gives him six
minutes to rescue her uh... battle between rc
and arachnid ensues uh... Arachnid ends up scanning
one of the helicopters that shows up because
Agent Fowler shows up. Jack had pickpocketed
Silas for his GPS communicator. But Arachnid
scans one of these helicopters. And Silas from
Mech is watching. He's like, ah, so that's how
it's done. And he doesn't say anything else.
All of a sudden, the whole bunker around him
just goes dark. so basic thing story with Jack
is that his mom finds out that he's coming home
late she grounds him can't even use RC blah blah
blah at the end of the episode obviously because
June has seen the robots she has seen her acne
and she has seen RC in action they take June
to the Autobot base And the only thing she can
do after seeing the entire team is wave, and
the episode ends. Thoughts? Not a bad episode
overall. No, there's a lot of really, really
good action in this one. I like how Silas is
a little bit more involved. Unlike the movies.
And TF animated. I like the humans in this. Other
than that, the humans in this show are probably
the best humans ever in Transformers cartoon
history. That the Autobots have very good pickpocket
and arachnid It was funny to see her get cemented.
Oh Man, that was an amazing image. It was really
good graphics on that and then I Liked how she
kind of flipped in the air turned into a helicopter
and got the hell out of there. You know Overall
good episode. I mean it wasn't one of my favorites,
but it wasn't a bad one either Yeah, no and the
next episode we have is metal attraction. This
is episode 18 and The gist of this is the Autobots
try to claim a magnetic weapon called a polarity
gauntlet before this Decepticons can get to it
Yeah, this one was pretty funny it was funny
and it was robot funny Except for where Jack's
mother tried to for one Tell the kids what to
do or how's that fair if he can't if she can't
go you can't go Yeah, that's that's what I meant
a second ago about she kind of gets a little
wishy -washy And she kind of goes over the top
a little bit and she wants to date optimus prime
I Didn't wear my heels. Oh god. He's like oh
God go away So many jokes Anyways, bad fan fiction
comes up right there. I am Optimus Prime, and
I need kiss play. Oh, wow. So this metal polarizer
or magnetic polarizer thing, it goes off and
Arcee and Bulkhead are stuck to each other. Hence
the name of the episode, Metal Attraction. Ha
ha ha ha. This is basically a rival episode.
You have Arachnid and Breakdown on the Decepticon.
Well, Arachnid's in the middle, but technically
she is a con for the most part. And Breakdown
going against their two rivals, Arcee and Bulkhead.
I really like this one. So far out of Transformers
Prime, there really isn't an episode I don't
like overall. The action in this is great. The
twist at the end of this was just amazingly hilarious,
because Breakdown, after failing the first time
because he let himself get captured, he goes
back to Megatron, and Megatron's like, you dare
come back here empty -handed? No, Lord Megatron.
And he turns around, and Arachnid is... magnetized
to him that was quite funny yeah it was very
very funny overall metal attraction is it's really
well done they're not I mean I know that they've
kind of already set up the character development
between the rivalries I hope they kind of get
away from the rivalries. I know that the next
episode we're talking about really doesn't have
anything about rivalries between Autobots and
Decepticons, but I hope they kind of step away
from the rivalry thing because we don't want
this to be, you know, Transformers celebrity
death match every episode. It's Transformers
rock -em -sock -em robots. Yeah. So the next
one or the final one that were do you have any
other thoughts on middle attraction for I? Like
how they shot each other, and it just kept bouncing
off Yeah, that was cool. It was like ting ting
ting ting ting and I was like yeah, and and I
like the fact that uh Breakdown had his eyeball
smashed out Yeah, yeah, it's very cool Moving
on to rock bottom, this basically is RC, Bulkhead,
Jack and Miko investigating a Decepticon strip
mine for energon that was supposedly stripped
clean. Megatron and Starscream arrive shortly
after, and Megatron accuses Starscream of hoarding
energon and reveals that he knew about the Air
Commander's other treacherous acts, including
the attempted revival of Skyquake. Starscream
begs for mercy, but escapes when Megatron is
distracted by the arrival of Jack and R .C. Basically,
this episode is exactly what the title says,
rock bottom. Because of all the blasting, a cave
-in starts in the mine, bulkhead has to hold
it up. I will say that I have never not liked
Miko. I get why some people don't like her, but
I really felt sorry for her in this one. I mean,
she's, you know, between her and Jack, they're
the only humans, and she's really trying to save
Bulkhead. The emotion between, I think the writers
really set up the emotion between the two, and
Bulkhead just wants her to get out of there,
but she's not gonna abandon him. I like that
loyalty in her. So there's that. What else about
rock bottom the I only actually wrote down two
Oh, yeah, he's he's a badass Yeah, he's super
badass And is it just me or was Starscream more
the whiny g1 bitch this episode? Oh, yeah, I
felt that fully this time. I mean like this is
the first time Starscream This is the first time
Steve Bloom's Starscream has taken on the whiny
groveling thing. I mean, every other time since
Megatron has been back so far, Starscream has
been like, you know, just appeasing him. Yes,
Lord Megatron. Yes, Lord Megatron. And he'll
walk away and he'll mumble to himself about,
you know, eventually taking over, blah, blah,
blah. But this one, I... I swear, you could put
G1 Starscream on the left -hand side of the screen
and Prime Starscream on the right -hand side,
it'd be the exact same thing. I don't dislike
it, but I find it hilarious. Yeah, I liked how
he kind of showed up like, you're my bitch, you're
going to die. And then I got interrupted because
the Autobots happened to get in the way. Yup
What do you like about rock bottom um Megatron
becomes helpless for a little bit. Oh, yeah,
I like that scene with him and Jack I really
do because it shows just pretty much basically
just Megatron's head And then he and Jack are
talking about, you know, making sure it's like,
oh, just finish me off and blah, blah, blah.
If Optimus Prime was here, and he was in my position,
I'd finish him off. And Jack's like, but would
Optimus do that to you, though? You know? Yeah.
And again, it's the humans that are making the
Decepticons think. Kind of like, even though
people hate it, kind of like Carly. You want
to be Sentinel's bitch? Go ahead and sit here.
I'm sorry. I get the same vibe between the speech
between Jack and Megatron here What we didn't
I don't know if it was because of Jack drilling
stuff around the area to get to bulkhead and
Miko I Don't know if it was because of that,
but Megatron where his head is it looks a little
loose there and then after Jack leaves Megatron's
hand actually comes up like like by his chin
comes up and just starts pulling At the rocks
to try to free himself and of course as we find
out later. He does free himself, but No, I I
like this one I like how TFW and everywhere else
is like oh, this is the episode title speculate
all you want And then it's not anything that
everyone thinks it's gonna be Convoy was a perfect
example of that this you know is a perfect example
of that. So is Metal Attraction. Well, and then
even the next episode, Partners. Yeah. Well,
it has been revealed that they are going to go
more into Optimus and Megatron's story within
the show. Now, they only have, what, six, seven
episodes left in season one? Yeah, that was a
26 -episode pickup? I believe. Yeah. There's
only like six or seven episodes left. Yeah, and
then if you notice prime hasn't been in the last
few Yep Peter Cullen's busy. Oh, yeah Working
his ass off Well, look at Look at Frank Welker,
you know, he wasn't in from episode 6 to episode
what 12 or 13? So he was out for six episodes.
So I mean You know, I don't know Very true. I
guess they're busy. I don't think it's... I hope
to God it hasn't been leaked because if it was
leaked then we didn't get the exclusive. I don't
think it has been, but we do know that David
Kay will be doing something in this show before
the end of the first season. So I'm really excited
to see what David gets to do. And it'll be between
Optimus and Megatron. Oh, will it he said something
well, I don't know if it is but he said he's
working with them anyway Right. Yeah So I'm really
excited to see what that is and Like I said before
so far there isn't an episode of this series
that They're outside of like like minor minor
minor nitpicks There really isn't an episode
of this series where I have an a major issue
with anything that they've done so far. No. I
mean, there isn't even really, for me personally,
just watching the show, there hasn't really been
a filler episode. I mean, yeah, I think I commented
on like Speed Metal or Masters, and I commented
on one of the earlier episodes that I thought
it was a little bit of filler, but I mean, just
going back, I've been going back and watching
episodes here and there, and there really isn't
that much filler. I mean, yeah. Some of the human
stuff is a little weird, but I mean the humans
themselves are great I like Fowler it when in
crisscross when Black Arachnia scans his helicopter.
He's like oh not again. I like how they make
the transformer scanners If you're in a vehicle,
you're gonna feel that you're being scanned.
I like that. I like that they don't just, you
know, gloss over. Yeah. How that is. What I think
would be really interesting, I don't think that
they would ever do this, but I think would be
really interesting if they scanned, like say,
three or four Autobots scanned. I know Skyquake
did it, and I know, I keep wanting to call her
Blackarachnia. I know Skyquake and Arachnid did
it. with Fowler in a vehicle. I think it would
be really cool if somehow they got part of Fowler's
personality. Wow. Well, it goes back to if you're
scanning something, it goes back to what I said
a second ago about they're scanning something
but they're not... They're not just throwing
away the fact that the humans in the vehicle
So like I said, it's almost like they're scanning
the vehicle and the humans so you would think
Kind of like rogue in the x -men when she touches
someone she not only gets their powers if she
touches them long enough She'll get their memories
so you would think that Somehow they'd work.
I know that's a far -fetched idea for transformers,
but I think it would still be cool It'd be funny
at least, it'd be good, it'd be for a good laugh.
Yeah, I could see that. So what else? Um, I think
that's it. Yeah, short episode this time around.
Yeah, but we did do a TF Dark of the Moon last
episode, so. Yes, yes, yes, so not really anything
big coming up I am NOT going to TF con due to
other Arrangements that are supposed to happen
around the same time and not having any money.
So Yes, that sucks better luck next year But
yeah, I think that does it for this week we will
return Sometime next week, after the next TF
Prime episode, which is Partners, in which the
team is surprised to learn that Starscream wants
to become an Autobot. Oh lord. That's the description,
so yes, let that fester in your mind. Is this
Armada all over again? No! It happened. No, no,
you need to edit that. You need to edit in a
bleep for what you just said right there. No,
this is not Armada all over again. No. No bleeps
are available. Sorry. So yes, anything else you're
looking forward to this week in Transformers?
Now that I know that exiles is actually out on
Amazon I'm gonna go look that up and see how
much that is and See if I can get my hands on
it eventually Because I didn't think it was out
yet. I thought it was still on the horizon Watching
more animated episodes for tap the next couple
weeks and just more transformers prime stuff
Pretty much the same here. Yep So I think that
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