Transformers: Dark of the Moon and Prime Discussion

Hey Tara strong here, and you're listening to

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to all things transformers version 2 .0 Welcome

to All Things Transformers, version 2 .0, episode

9. I'm your host, Steve Megatron Phillips, and

joining me as always is the infamous... The fucking

great one, TFD1 Mike. You are not the fucking

great one. Yes I am, dammit. You've been demoted.

No, no, no, no, no. There's no demotion here.

So what's new? The usual. Such as? Coming up

for Tooncast 100 Record, which hardly any of

the co -hosts have actually sent in voicemails.

But anyway, let's see, there's that. I've been

planning and plotting stuff for GCRN over the

next two and a half months, and oh my god, June

is going to be our busiest month ever. I have

so much crap to do in June, it's not even funny.

It's like almost every day of every week in June,

there's something. Nice. Yeah. Let's see, just

got an interview done with Stan Bush for BotCon

2011 that will be out sometime next week right

before BotCon. Actually waiting on Stan to send

me new promos so I can add those into the thing

so I won't actually edit that until probably

Monday or Tuesday next week. Just interviewed

Tara Strong for the second time about Batman

Arkham Asylum. What else, what else, what else?

I've got interview requests in the works for

a bunch of different people, a couple of returning

ones. That's pretty much it. What about you?

Well, I'm about to fire off in a little bit emails

to my Darkglass companions. Darkglass slackers

is more like it. Some of them, yes. Also, I've

been conspiring over at BTVA or BehindTheVoiceActors

.com with various members on there coming up

with new ideas for their fan interaction areas.

Oh, cool. So the eventual idea is we're going

to have maybe... And this is if everything pans

out, something like American Idol, but for amateur

voice actors. Oh my God. That's so hilarious

that you say it like that because the first thing

I thought of when we asked Tara Strong the question

about how to break into voice acting. And she

goes, it's a really tight business and you have

to be really, really good. There are some good

people out there, but there's mostly bad people

out there and The first thing I thought of when

she said that was American Idol for voice acting

Well, the funny thing was I came up with it earlier

and I was I don't know It just it came to me.

That's what I put down. So I think that's probably

what's gonna happen. I Don't know for certain

so don't quote me on it, but yeah I just thought

it would be interesting to try. Cool. And of

course, I've thrown out ideas of who would be

the judges, so that's, of course myself, but

anyways. Yeah. And Kevin. Yeah. But yeah, other

than that, gearing up for a couple of specific

MWIRE podcasts, episodes, which I'm not going

to fully release details on yet. But the concept

is there in any case argh Too much info. No,

it's not Too big of details But anyhow, um, yes

I'm standing here trying to get this stupid cyclonus

to stand up and he won't stand up. Oh fucking

bastard robot You won't stand up on his own over

right now. He's doing the splits lovely. Yeah,

we should move into the news probably Yes, um

Well, you can go ahead and start that out Great.

Thanks three under the bus. There you go Bucker

first week back since vacation so I can do what

I want So the first thing we're going to start

with is the opening scenes of Dark of the Moon

have been revealed. And there's lots of giant

spoilers, which Optobotomist said, oh, there's

nothing interesting there. We already knew it

all. Well, to me, the one thing that's interesting

is about the fact that they actually show them

on Cybertron in the very beginning of the movie.

See, the trailer didn't really point that out.

or the teaser thing didn't really point that

out that the movie starts on Cybertron so I'm

liking that I'm liking how they have Sentinel

basically crashing on the moon and that's why

the space race happened blah blah blah I'm liking

it overall but again it's one of those things

where it's so much different versus reading scripture

of it or not scripture, oh god. This is not the

Bible. Yes, no. It's so much different reading

a synopsis of it than actually physically seeing

it in a trailer or actually seeing the actual

movie. The one thing, like I just said, that

really interested me was that it starts on Cybertron

instead of it starting on Earth with, this is

Optimus Prime and I am receiving this message

from the star, blah blah, whatever. I have crapped

my pants, and this is how it will be. Yeah, something

like that. So what did you think of the full

-on three and a half paragraphs full of the intro?

I don't know. I don't really care, honestly.

It isn't that I don't care. It's more so I just

want to see the film. I'm to that point now,

yeah. It's not that I don't want to know about

it. I don't think that it's relevant to sit here

and do speculation upon speculation and whatnot.

I have a strong feeling for this film, so I don't

think I'll be disappointed, but I don't want

to jump to conclusions either. Either route because

I don't want to get crucified for it later for

one Because we got crucified after the second

film came out because we were called haters Well

that person didn't know what the hell they were

talking about no right it was that shit horrible,

but Exactly Well, it was bad shit, but anyways

um Yeah, so I mean It's not that we we hate transformers

related stuff. It's just we wouldn't be doing

a news podcast on it if we hated this thing Exactly,

and I wouldn't be sitting here fiddling with

a piece of plastic trying to get the damn thing

to stand up That's what she said Shut up no comment

anyways Yes, so What do you think about the soundtrack?

A lot of these bands some of them are older some

of them are ones I've never heard of and then

other ones Obviously one we know that is number

one on the album that we don't really care for

But I like that some older bands got a shot into

getting in this. Like you have Goo Goo Dolls,

you have Stained, some other ones that people

will know, Theory of a Dead Man, Taking Back

Sunday, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Skillet,

which I don't know, Mastodon, I've never heard

of them. I've never heard of Black Veil Brides,

but... Yeah, the only like I'm interested in

the Google song just to see what that is because

I've always been a fan of them The stained one

could be I've been fans of them off and on it

just depends on what style the song Huh, it depends

on the song right with stained It depends on

the song but it also like it depends on if they're

going for The hardcore stuff that they did in

the very like at the very beginning like when

they first released dysfunction way back in the

day or if they're going for stuff that they've

done in later years stuff like oh What was that

stupid song that like? It's a damn song God I

know it's in my head here The one off the disc

the the not the dysfunction album make Their

slower stuff it depends on what it is if it's

their heart if it stains harder stuff or if it's

their slower stuff The one that really pops out

to me, and it's only because I'm a huge fan of

the band and they have a brand new album coming

out July 12th, the truth is, is their new album

is The Theory of a Dead Man's Song, because I'm

wondering if that is a Hall and Oates cover,

because Hall and Oates has a song from 1981's

Private Eye's album that's called Head Above

Water, so I'm wondering if Theory is doing a

cover of that, or if it's an original song by

them. For me, Stained, Goo Goo Dolls, and Three

of a Dead Man are the only ones that stick out.

I've heard Iridescent. I don't give a shit about

Iridescent. It sounds like shit. It's Iridescent.

Yeah. But yes, I'm interested to hear all the

other bands except for Linkin Park. Yeah. Because

obviously we've already heard it. Yep. And I

could give two shits less about Linkin Park at

this point. But anyways, that's already been

discussed. I'm definitely excited to see how

some of it sounds. I'm not buying it by any means.

See, that's the thing with me. And there's three

different versions of this, which is kind of

a pain in the ass. You get the GameStop exclusive.

You have the iTunes Deluxe exclusive. And then

you have the regular CD. We'll see they do that

because it's it's a part of it's that whole exclusivity

thing It's kind of like game codes or pre -order

for for characters. It's the same deal and It's

this isn't a new thing either because there are

sometimes when an artist or a band will release

their album But in order to cash in they will

release They'll give Walmart a special edition

with an additional track on it They'll give target

the same thing, but with something different

than what the Walmart version is I mean Multiple

albums with music and bonus features on that's

nothing new to me at all Like you said this isn't

a set like I won't buy the whole soundtrack hopefully

When the iTunes version comes out you can buy

per song Because like I said, I would love to

check out the goo goo dolls song the stained

song and the theory of a dead man song So hopefully

you can buy the individual songs and you don't

have to just buy the whole damn album It's interesting

I'm more interested to see how some of these

songs might fit into the film because with Revenge

of the Fallen I fully say that Bumblebee's theme

song now is Nickelback's Burn It To The Ground,

because that played during the scene where he

showed up at Sam's college. It played in the

background of the movie, so I'm more interested

to see where some of these songs in the soundtrack,

other than Iridescent, which will probably be

end credits, I'm more interested to see where

they show up in the film. Oh, yeah. So... The

release date for Dark of the Moon has been moved

up. From July 1st to June 29th. What a freaking

nightmare this is. And I don't mean this in like

us just generally going. It's a nightmare for

promotional people. Mike Laidman and I were talking

about this on Nerd News. He was talking about

it off air actually. He's a media buyer. so he

does promotional stuff he does trailers and all

that stuff so them changing the release date

means you have to go back and re -edit all the

trailers everything else to say july uh... june

twenty -ninth instead of june first or july first

sorry my question to you is and i post this on

facebook and i don't think uh... my buddy on

their will carpenter i don't think he was getting

what i was trying to ask They basically moved

this from a Friday release to a Wednesday release.

Outside of two weeks before holidays or the Wednesday

before Thanksgiving, do Wednesday movies ever

really do that well? I always thought that theatrical

movies get released on Friday because they want

people to go to the movies over the weekend.

And you know you and then you have during the

week you have like comic books for comic books

get released on Wednesday and music and movies

and DVDs get released on Tuesdays. So and I know

that the Wednesday release of a film has happened

for the longest time but are they ever really

that successful? I don't think so. I can see

like I mean with the first film they released

it on a Monday for an early release. Did they

really? Yes, and I remember some of that, but

it did well because of the way that they trickled

it into circulation. Generally, I don't think

the Wednesday thing works out. No, I know in

some cases, like I said, those exceptions, like

the Wednesday before Thanksgiving or the two

weeks before Christmas and stuff like that, or

even if Christmas Day falls on a Wednesday. uh...

or the wednesday before christmas day those are

exceptions because those are holidays and people

are on vacation and they want to do stuff with

their family you know exceptions would be like

the lord of the rings trilogy the star wars stuff

when those of released on wednesday they have

succeeded but that's because it's that franchise

uh... what i'm saying is in general doesn't matter

what film franchise it is That that that that

was my question do they succeed on Wednesdays

and the other thing is You're gonna have a Dark

of the Moon Wednesday where everyone oh, I'm

taking off work to go see the Transformers movie

I'm not taking the day off. I'll wait until the

weekend. I'm not saying you are, I'm saying in

general. I know but I mean it's just I don't

know I'm enthused for the film that I mean I

am I am very enthused for the film and I don't

I don't want people thinking that I'm being negative

about this what I'm being negative about is the

release date is That's what I'm being negative

about the film looks amazing from what we've

read from what the credit what the what the opening

scenes are supposed to be Looks really really

great. I am very enthused for the film I just

worry about the whole release date thing because

it looks really, really weird to me. Yeah. I'm

not sure how that's going to play out for them.

I don't really see the logic in doing this because

one, it's wasting money on retitling everything.

Yep. But two, I don't see what the benefit is

of opening it two days early. Unless there's

something else that's coming out during that

weekend, but even then if that's the case, it's

still gonna kill it. Oh Yeah, but I don't think

there is anything coming out that particular

weekend. I don't think so either I Don't know

it's just kind of strange. It's all I know. Yeah,

it's very very strange So moving on yes moving

on We have Transformers Dark of the Moon the

video game multiplayer trailer Looks interesting

Looks better than what the other two games were

of course that that's because it's High Moon

Studios working on the game this time around

not whoever did the first two games Activision

I believe did the first two games, which they're

in conjunction with High Moon Studios, but I

can't remember who exactly did the first two

with them. Yeah, I think it was Activision. It

was Activision and some other company. Yeah.

So it sucked ass, something terrible. Now, just

from the images and the video I've seen of this

so far, it's very, very War for Cybertron -esque.

Yeah, because it uses that engine. Well, yeah,

which is good because it runs a lot faster and

It's I don't know just overall a better a better

system and setup and you don't have the freaking

times Stuff, so I mean this I may actually buy

Yeah, I might actually get it myself, too. I

was not enthused whatsoever With the first game

after playing it. I'd never touched it again

I think I found my copy the other day and I'm

like oh I can go oh wait no I can't go sell this

to people no one will buy the damn ugly thing

the second game I have to be honest I never bought

it I never played it I didn't care to even try

I don't even think I had my new computer at that

point to even try to play it and my old computer

wouldn't have even my old computer that playing

that game on there would have killed it But yes,

I Mean it looks interesting. So that's that's

the good thing Yeah, I mean it it more than likely

will be a Force to be reckoned with it'll be

the best Transformers game since war for Cybertron.

I'm guessing yeah Did you also see the hands

-on details yes, I'm looking at them now And

what is your overall it was fun Yes, that's what

it looks like So So yes, we'll switch gears over

to Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg to be inducted

into the Transformers Hall of Fame Yep What is

your opinion on this? I think it's okay. I mean

The way that they're doing the Hall of Fame for

humans is that they are doing it They're trying

to honor those that have touched the franchise

Like people like Bud Budyansky who wrote a lot

of the you know initial G1 stuff people like

Peter Cullen who obviously voice up voiced Optimus

Prime and Having Bayne Spielberg in there. I'm

okay with it because of the simple fact that

it's they brought it back. You know, we can say

what we want all about the live -action films.

How bad they were, how we didn't like them, whatever.

But you wouldn't have, I mean, besides us Transformers

fans, you wouldn't have the mainstream audience

flocking to these films every time that they're

put out. And even though I think Michael Bay

was the wrong fit for this, he should have been

on G .I. Joe, You know, I gotta give the guy

credit Yeah, he did, you know Bring a life into

this saga, which probably would have never been

done to this extent Yep So I can't fully disagree

with it. I mean, it's it's still Anything's better

than them inducting Neil Kaplan You're just an

ass for that guy All he did was voice optimist

prime and rid horribly Well, I mean that's what

he was casted to do. So you can't really blame

the guy You can blame the people that ran the

the direction of it So yeah, so yeah, so Michael

Bay is actually gonna be at the BotCon transformers

Hall of Fame ceremony Yeah At least he shows

up and acknowledges what he's done. Yeah, sure.

It's cool, though. I mean, for those that are

going, I mean, that is a pretty nice feat. You'll

get to see the director of the film, which is,

you know, despite like him or hate him, he's

done a good job. I mean, it's it's still awesome

to be able to see him. And, you know, I think

isn't Spielberg going to be there, too? I think

it's just Bay. That's all it said on on on the

news post and that's all it said on BotCon .com

is it's just Michael Bay Still in any case that's

I mean if Spielberg shows up that'll be great

So but it's still cool for a guy that you know

keeps busy pretty busy to show up Yeah, something

like this Yep Moving on, switching gears. Yeah,

we'll switch to the other BotCon information

since we're already on BotCon. Yeah. The convention

schedule and panel information is now up. Now

this is very interesting. They've announced what

their main autographed guests are going to be

like the main special guests Well, let's run

down the list and then hold on. I'm I'm I'm working

around that. Hang on one second They've announced

all the special guests. You got dilly keg burger

Morgan Lofting What's his damn name? You know

Ross Jack and Jack Angel Stan Bush Michael McCoy

and Who's this chick? Arlene Banas, who played

Carly. What they also said was they're also going

to be having special secret guests. So this information

here, basically, Friday at 1 p .m., there's gonna

be a script reading the Stuntacon job. Saturday

11 a .m. There's going to be Hasbro Transformers

toys panel, which is usually them just showing

us what we're gonna get for the next year or

so Saturday 12 p .m. Transformers Prime cast

script reading now. This is very interesting

Very interesting because Peter Collin is nowhere

on the actual special guest list neither is Frank

Welker if they're going to have a Transformers

Prime cast script reading Maybe they are two

of these super secret special guests. That is

very possible. Unless they're just doing a scene

without Optimus and Megatron, like if they're

just gonna do a scene between Bulkhead and Miko

and you know what I mean? Unless it's like the

rest of the cast. And the reason why I say it's

interesting is because Saturday at 2 p .m. Surprise

guest autograph section. Who could they be? So

what I'm saying is with these surprise guests,

I'm betting that it's additional guests beyond

David Kaye and Stan Bush and all them because

if you look at BotCon's actual schedule on their

website, it shows all four days or three days

or Thursday to Sunday. You have spread throughout.

those three or four days, you have spread throughout

there like multiple times where you can get an

autograph from David Kay or Morgan Lofton or

Neil Ross. So this special panel, it has to be

different people. Yeah. They kind of have to

agree with you. And then Saturday at 4 p .m.

we have the Transformers the movie 25th anniversary

voice actor panel. Again. Also makes me think

that Walker and Cullen will show up It would

be a definitely good year to have them because

out of the original guest list out of that Jack

Angel Greg Berger and Neil Ross, I think are

the only ones that were in TFTM out of that guest

list Because tracks was yeah, Michael McCoo.

Yeah tracks wasn't in there So that's what I'm

saying TFTM voice panel. That's another hint

that at least Colin I Can we can speculate on

Welker, but at least Colin? Yeah, Colin at least

has to be there you would think anyway and Then

Sunday at 10 a .m. There's the making of transformers

prime panel, which this is probably gonna be

like Jeff Klein Alex Kurtzman, Robert Orsi. It's

probably those guys, the producers, the directors.

Might even be Sue Blue. We just don't know. And

then Sunday at 1 p .m. is the Hasbro Planning

and Story building. So I'm assuming that's probably

they're gonna let us know, like media, what they

have planned. They may give us a preview to...

Exodus 2 or whatever it's called the the second

war for Cybertron book So I wish I could have

gone this year this would this would have been

a convention to attend oh Yeah, just just from

all the secrets and stuff that are plotted throughout

this these this schedule I so wish I could be

there this year because this is gonna be one

of the best bot cons ever. Yeah, that's one of

the things that sucks about being across the

country and with no money. Yeah. Because you

can't afford to go to nice things like this.

Exactly. Headshot. Headshot. Switching into headshots.

We have the shout Factory Beast Wars slideshow.

Oh Okay, I thought we were going to transformers

vault next my bad No, we'll finish off with that.

I Okay lost my mind Anyways, um, yes, shout Factory

has a nice little slideshow going and there's

six images. Yep Transmetal 2 Megatron and optimus

Transmetal 2, Tarantulas. No, it's Transmetal

Tarantulas is the first picture. Dinobot, then

Transmetal 2 Dinobot, then Rattrap. Transmetal

1 Rattrap. Yes, and then... And then Megatron

and Optimus. That are in their first Transmetal

form. Yeah. Which, you know, these are previously

seen shots before, but... Well, yeah. They're

good details, so I mean, I can't really... What

I'm more interested in... The images are great.

What I'm more interested in was that one story

back on the 16th where they showed the Beast

Wars Season 1 DVD trailer. Oh, yes. Because I

didn't realize that 2011 is not only the 25th

anniversary of Transformers the movie, 2011 is

the 15th anniversary of Beast Wars. That is true.

And you've watched the trailer, haven't you?

Yep. It's pretty neat how they go through that.

I like how they tied in various clips and created

it. And it sounds like something you'd watch

right on a TV commercial. I mean, obviously,

they're going to do that too. It's it's nice

to see them treat this show with the respect

it deserves Just like they've done with generation

one, you know Whereas Rhino kind of Rhino and

and I hate to like beat Rhino up too much because

I mean they did have nice as far as the imaging

on the the discs and the interiors of the box

sets but They had some pretty piss -poor boxes

for their DVDs. See, I like the Rhino DVDs. The

season one was pretty lame. Season two and three,

they got a little bit better, and then by Beast

Machines, they hadn't mastered, but they... Oh,

okay, you're talking about... Okay, wait. As

far as the boxes concerned. Right. No, I... You

mentioned G1, and then I thought you switched

it on me. You mentioned the G1 Rhinos. I thought

you mentioned the G1 Rhinos. No, I wasn't even

talking about G1 Rhinos. I know. See, I thought

you were. And then you went back to B. I'm like,

oh my god, what the hell? No, but the menu system

when you get into the DVDs is piss poor, too.

I don't know what Shouts looks like yet. We should

very soon. being that season one and the complete

series are due out June 7th. And the complete

box set is exclusive to Shout Factory Store to

begin with. And I guess if you pre -order, I

don't know if there's any perks for it, but you

get eight DVDs for the complete series. It's

all 52 episodes. Obviously four discs are season

one. And then you have each two discs for Season

2 and 3. And then there's new bonus content,

new interviews. Some of the old stuff is going

to carry over. Not interviews, though. The collectible

24 -page comic book is shrunk down to fit into

the case. The BotCon Dawn of Future's Past, which

I already have four copies of, but that's besides

the fact. Um, but yes, this, this is definitely,

uh, something nice to see, uh, taken better care

of. I wish that they would have been able to

get, um, uh, what is it? Uh, theft of the golden

disc on there. Yeah. However, I was told, uh,

by one of the guys that voiced on it, uh, there

was a specific reason why they could not do it.

And I'm trying my rights issues. Well That was

partially There was what was it? I'm looking

it up right now What she said? Yeah, it's probably

rights issues. I mean regardless of what it's

just nice to have a a newer version of Beast

Wars on DVD because the Rhino sets As nice as

those cases are, you're right, the menu thing

sucks. The menu screens suck. It was nice to

have an interview from Bob Forward and Larry

DiTileo on there, but other than that, there

was no real bonus features. No, and the 3D animation

cells sucked. Hopefully they've got the stuff

with the... I've heard that they've gotten interviews

with people that actually produced the show as

far as the 3D imaging. and the CGI and everything.

And I think they may have some of the behind

the scenes clips that showed up on YouTube from

one particular person. Yeah, I remember seeing

those. That may be on there. I don't know. It

depends on if they contacted him and got better

quality clips. As far as Theft of the Golden

Disk, the guy said there's more to it than what's

being discussed, but there's not anything they

can actually say about it. So there's probably

something that has broke. made a disclosure thing

that... Again, it's probably a rights thing,

because it depends on who owns that. It depends

on who owns Theft of the Golden Disk, whether

it's Hasbro, whether it's the people that made

it, whether it's Fun Pub. Because, honestly,

that was a convention -exclusive thing, wasn't

it? Yes. Yeah, see, that's the thing. I actually

asked permission from Randall N. G. on Facebook

about this because I wanted to use part of this

year's BotCon promo that he and Dr. Smoove put

together I asked him if I could use part of that

audio and he said well really Fun Pub owns it

but I guess it would be okay if you use like

a few moments of it but don't use the whole thing

so it's one of those things where if Fun Pub

owns it and they don't want it on there It has

to be a rights issue. It's the same thing with

any DVD where say the studio or the producers

or whoever puts the DVD together or the distributor

like someone like Shout. The best example I can

give you is a song. That's why a lot of DVD sets

that like... Say lost say Supernatural has a

song from one of the you know major bands you

know what I mean like some major band if It shows

up on television they can get away with it because

they've probably already bought the rights to

it when it comes to DVD If the rights are too

expensive, they won't buy it. They'll find another

song to supplement that scene on DVD. And I hate

that about DVD sets, but I'm sure that's probably

something. It has to have to do with the rights

issue for Theft of the Golden Disk not showing

up on the Shout Beast series sets. Oh, it has

to be. Yeah. Which, again, sucks. But, you know,

get what you can get. Yup. And finally up today

for the news is the Transformers Vault video

preview. Abrams Brooks has uploaded a brief video

preview of the Transformers Vault book to YouTube.

I'm not even talking right tonight. The video

preview showcases some of the cool things that

come with the book and the icing on the cake

is set to the background music from the Transformers

Prime soundtrack. Check it out. I didn't watch

this, did you? The vault thing? Yes, that was

freaking awesome watching everything that came

out of that packet. I was like, does it ever

end? I know! There's so much. They have a tech

spec sheet with a red decoder strip. They've

got a whole bunch of other stuff here. It's so,

so awesome. I'm actually going to play the video

without the sound, obviously, just to make sure

I can see what else comes with this, because

it's very, very cool. And it just it looks so

so awesome, and it's not just a I mean it is

a book, but it comes in like a case Yeah, there's

like toy instruction manual type things that

pop out It's almost like a pop -up book the red

decoder thing that I mentioned a second ago What's

he gonna pull out next? Come on looks like a

an uncolored in animation cell or drawing optimus

prime translucent card transformers the movie

rotimus prime unicorn poster um let's see what

else come on dude shows more for yeah that's

that's it but it's it's very very cool and honestly

i don't think it's priced that that bad. I'm

just going to look up at Amazon really quick

because I think I have it on my wish list. Either

that or I have it in my cart. One of the two.

I forget which one. Let me see if I can pull

it up here. Amazon. I think when I added it to

my cart as like a save for later thing, it was

like $23 .99. So for all that, that's not bad

at all. Oh no. That's not that bad at all. Let

me just look it up really quick. Oh my god, I'm

typing and I know people are going to hate that.

It's from Walt Inbooks. The price is... Let's

see. In stock, ships and sold by Amazon .com,

gift draft available. It is currently... Oh,

it's... 2058 through Amazon and it is currently

released. So yeah 21 bucks not bad No, not bad

at all, especially for all that stuff you get

that's awesome So, where do we go from here sir,

well from here we're going to go to a commercial

break and it's actually not a commercial but

It's going to be a quick break and then we'll

be back with our iTunes and voicemail Welcome

back to all things transformers and now we're

going to jump to the iTunes reviews the latest

ones we've gotten are well They titled this one

all things transformers five stars And it was

on May 20th by Wowee27. And they put, provides

all you need to know about Transformers mixed

with humor. It feels like having a conversation

with good friends with common interests. A great

way to spend the morning commute from Midland

to Saginaw or wherever you live. Thanks, guys.

Fellow Michigander. I know those ways so well.

Anyways, but yes, thank you very much. Nice to

have feedback on the new version. Yes, very nice

about damn time Yes, and then the next one is

yet another perspective on all things transformers

four out of five stars by optimus 997 on May

21st The two regular hosts here Steve and Mike

have really worked hard on this and other podcasts

And this is one of my regular tf podcasts to

listen to Even with copious amounts of TF podcasts

out there, this one still manages to find a unique

voice. Special guest hosts, interviews, and varying

opinions on the many properties of Transformers,

including the movies, current shows, comics,

and toys, all lend to a product that overall

is very enjoyable to listen to if you're into

Transformers. So give it a listen. What have

you got to lose? Oh, and Steve Megatron's voice

is quite good, so that's a plus. Yes! Yes, you

read that wrong because he said Steve's Megatron's

voice. Yes, I know. Not just your original voice.

I know that. I, I, yes. I'm an idiot. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm bowing for being a moron. Something

Megatron would never do is bow. I would never

bow down. No. Steve is my bitch. Give me such

ammunition Megatron, that's not good. You know

that by now. We've been doing this almost two

years. Yes, however, you have also something

else in common. You also have something else

to do with the other end. Don't bring it up.

You can read the last one. Yeah, I'm gonna take

the last one. Asshat. You're the asshat. Go back

to your tropical island. You go back to your

tropical palace Well tropical island you did

just come back from vacation you asshat. It wasn't

tropical So you went to I almost said Saskatchewan

so you went to Saskatoon with all the snow No,

I went to a water land. Oh Well waterlands can

be tropical, but anyway Where's my rubber ducky?

Continue. Yes, this is from Toon Master Tim.

It was left on May 24th, 2011. Transformers news

and a great conversation, five stars. The GCRN

guys do a great job of creating very entertaining

shows that interest the geek community. Conversations

are always fun to listen to and it is like you're

sitting at the table chatting with friends about

geek culture. ATTF recently underwent a revamp

with ATTF 2 .0. The show format may have changed,

but the objective is still the same. Transformers

news, conversation, and reviews. For me, listening

to podcasts is a way to catch the news since

I rarely have time to hang out in forums or hit

all of the news sites that... on the web throughout

the day. ATTF reports the latest top news stories

and they review the latest episodes of Transformers

Prime, which is great. I recommend you try ATTF

and other podcasts from the GCRN team. So thank

you Tim. I'm not sure which Tim this is though

because Toon Master Tim has left us two reviews,

one for ATTF and one for Tooncast. I'm not sure

if this is Tim Silver's or Tim Costello. So I'm

not sure. So they're going to have to call in

or write in and let us know which is which. Yes.

Yes. So thank you to everyone for leaving the

new iTunes reviews. We greatly appreciate it.

Keep leaving those reviews. Yes. Thank you. Thank

you very much. And now we will jump into our

voicemail. Hey guys, this is Sean. I'm a new

listener and I'm just doing a message about episode

number eight. Yeah, a point there about Transformers

Prime is that what I got from the Shadow Zone,

I think it's preview, where Starscream has the

Dark Energy in them is that, you know, it hasn't

been revealed maybe I think maybe maybe part

of sick mind had it but Definitely the The thing

before it was the episode before was that you

know, he he still has the dark energy pulled

out of Megatron out in space so my hesitation

not you know, my assumption is that that Darjeeling

John is what you stole out of Megatron the spark

chamber and still has possession of that has

told essentially no one about. Because if you

recall, the dark energon that Megatron was reanimated

with is out to the energon. He, in Bubblebee's

body, pulled from that old Cybertron battle,

a war zone battle, when he first got these essentially

zombified robots. Yeah, I mean the point you

guys didn't just totally passed over I mean yeah,

he stole he stole it out of Megatron spark chamber

when he found them out, you know in the aftermath

of the of the space bridge explosion But yeah,

I won't go back and listen to the other the older

podcast because you guys have some great great

banter and insights with the shows and and and

transformers info, so And yeah, I think there's

a great day, there's a healthy skepticism amongst

all Transformer lovers and geeks about this third

movie, especially since they've already leaked

out comic books and children's books with details

before the movie comes out. But yeah, yeah, it's

making sense. But thank you guys. I'll look forward

to your next podcast. All Things Transformers

will be back after these messages. Emerging from

the dark humor that was the Beast Unleashed podcast,

Steve Megatron, TFU and Mike and Pecan Court

Michael move on to Transformers Animated coming

June 26, 2011, Transformation Animation Podcast.

15 podcast episodes covering all three seasons

of Transformers Animated and the awesome toy

line as well. We will also have cast and crew

interviews, so get tapped this summer with the

GeekCast Radio Network's next Transformers Franchise

Podcast, Transformation Animation Podcast. Decepticons!

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to the cartoons we grew up with. 100 episodes

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podcasts. Join hosts TFG1 Mike, Optimus Solo,

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We also have voice actor and writer interviews.

Tune in to Tooncast as we look back on the cartoons

that defined us as geeks. You can find Tooncast

on iTunes and the web at www .geekcastradio .com.

Tune in. Welcome to my throne of future tales.

The Beast Unleashed podcast is over, not gone.

You can hear more of this great podcast discussing

all the episodes of Beast Wars and Beast Machines

on GeekCastRadio .com. We include voice actor

and writer interviews with stellar hosting by

Steve, Mike and Michael. Head on over to iTunes

or the Net or else I will send you my vehicles

to extract your spark and destroy you. Now back

to all things Transformers. Thank you Sean for

the kind words and yes, it's not a plot point

that I meant to skip over. The problem is, I've...

The problem is because I don't have the hub and

I have to watch the episodes on YouTube when

they go up. I completely forgot about Starscream

stealing the dark energon out of Megatron's body.

So yeah... It's just a mess up on my part Thank

you for the kind words about the other podcast.

Hope you continue to listen more as far as the

movie prequel media I Never paid attention to

any of that The only way I'm getting spoiled

for the movie is if obviously as you've heard

in this episode is if we read from the tfw news

postings about opening scenes so that i've never

ever bought a movie prequel book from any of

the movies what about you i've bought so i i

bought them for the first and second film i did

not read the one for the second film so i didn't

i'd don't care to buy it for the third one so

you basically wasted money on a prequel that

you never even read I read it for the first one.

Does that count? Yeah, but if you went back and

you bought the Revenge of the Fallen prequel

novel, but you never read it, that's a waste

of money. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you.

So yes, thank you to everyone who left the iTunes

reviews and the voicemail as well. Yes, thank

you. Thank you very much. And now with TF Prime.

I don't know what's wrong with me today. I'm

having so many issues. Yes, Shadow Zone was the

latest episode, and I think Shadow Zone was the

last latest episode because there hasn't been

one shown up since. I think they're going on

another break, which is... This is the problem

I have. Around the holidays, I understand breaks.

It's the middle of freaking saw almost the middle

of freaking summer well not the middle of summer

But it's it's coming up on you know the summer

season. Why would you do a break? after so many

episodes in or I This is what hurt hurts cartoons

because I hate when they do that, but anyway

The basic plot of this one is is that Starscream

is injured from Megatron He's still scheming,

he's got his dark energon. The Autobots go out

and survey the area, but Mikko being the sly

little wench that she is, she tries to play it

all cool by not even caring that they're going

on a mission and then she makes a break for the

space bird, not the ground bridge. And in the

process of Jack and Raph trying to stop her,

she drops her phone. They end up in the location

where the Autobots are. Optimus, you know, delivers

a really, really menacing line to Starscream

and blows his arm off. I laughed so hard at that.

That was awesome. I don't get it though, because

Starscream forced the Dark Energon into himself.

That's supposed to infuse them with power. It's

supposed to infuse them with the blood of Unicron.

And as soon as he did that, Optimus shot his

arm off. It's like, really? So the blood of Unicron

is tainted and it's not any good and it makes

you lose limbs? It only works in certain individuals.

That's true, that's true. Megatron is the superior

model, obviously. Oh my god, they get you on

superior, Starscream inferior. So come to find

out the kids are there and after Starscream gets

his arm shot off he requests immediate ground

bridge from Soundwave. His ground bridge opens

right when Optimus orders RC to... Open up a

ground bridge for them. So you have two ground

bridges going at the same time the feedback does

something really really weird where They end

up in a shadow zone of the real world and they

can only touch each It's like an alternate reality.

It's kind of like chatterglass type of stuff

the other plot that I'm kind of not pointing

out here is Starscream was at this he's at the

site of Skyquake's grave and he's trying to Makes

sky quake rise up So that's why Starscream is

there and the whole shadow zone effect happens

from the feedback of the ground bridges the Autobots

can't see the kids, but the kids can see each

other and Optimus points out the real troubling

problem to this is sky quakes tomb is empty um

and I know that's a horrible attempt at an optimist

impression that's almost worse than Neil Kaplan's

but um come to find out that the zombie skyquake

is stuck in the shadow zone with the children

lovely yes oh he won't be bothering anybody and

at least we know Decepticons become zombies too

yep um Basically Starscream gets his ground bridge

back to base Goes to knockout and says I need

your repair. Oh, I guess we can go get the one

you lost. Where is it? Don't you have it with

you? My greatest thing about this entire scene

with knockout and Starscream was Knockout mentions

the fucking no ray. That was so cool. I know

that was such awesome fan wank That was so awesome

We could upgrade you to a null ray because your

current arm is antiquated I don't want a null

ray. I want my old arm Yes, that was such a good

g1 reference um And I'm trying to remember here

what the hell happens after that Starscream goes

back out searching for his arm, which it ends

up in the Shadow Zone with the children and the

zombie Skyquake. They shoot it, the kids shoot

Starscream's gun arm, and it basically tears

off Skyquake's arm. Ratchet finds a way, they

all find a way to communicate with the kids through

text messaging. Oh my god, text messaging, yay!

Modern technology at its greatest. I know, exactly.

And Ratchet finds a way to get the kids back

into the real universe and then they get them

back to base. This whole time Starscream's arm

stays with Zombie Skyquake in the Shadow Zone,

but Skyquake's limb ends up... the real world

with Starscream and he's like sorry like this

is not mine This is such a comedy episode It

was and it was nice to see Megatron at the beginning

kind of like purposely torturing Starscream yeah,

and Starscream of course not liking it's like

damn it. I'll kill you In a sense. Yeah, yeah.

I just don't... I don't have any problems with

this episode. It was a really, really good, interesting

episode. It was a way of combining alternate

reality with reality. The only thing is... Megatron's

only in the beginning. So... That part did kinda

suck. Yeah. Megatron's only in the beginning.

So you're telling me... this megatron goes off

to his hot tub and plays with a rubber duckie

not often uh... but but said that seriously though

that you know this megatron is supposed to be

a big bad and i know this was a star -spangled

episode and that's fine well and great even in

other shows you know specifically these wars

with the stores megatron in his tub with his

rubber duckie You would see him interacting with

whatever else is going on, so I'm wondering where

the hell did Megatron and Prime go? What the

hell is he doing? Is he on vacation or something?

Obviously, he's fully healed, so he doesn't need

to heal anymore, so what the hell is he doing?

Overall, I'm glad this was sort of a comedy episode.

You know when people often think of like zombie

homages or zombie transformers or zombie anything

It's supposed to be big bad and scary and skyquake

zombie was big bad and scary for the kids But

I just kind of laughed at it a little I don't

know It was just a fun episode to watch. Oh,

yeah, it's And it was it's nice to see something

like that every now and again I mean, I know

that they have an overall plot line of what they're

Attempting But it's it's nice to see them kind

of just go out on a limb and do something funny

Right, but at the same time if you think about

it, they're really not going too far out on that

limb They did it as far as the comedy aspect

of it. Well, they did go out on a limb. I mean

Starscreams, but Yeah, very punny Yeah, but what

I'm saying is though like they went out on a

limb with the comedy, but it's not like Every

other episode has told us a continuous story

up to this point It's not like this episode is

a standalone at all. It's still part of what

they've told already See what I'm saying. Oh,

yeah. Yeah, it's I like how that yeah, it's not

like G1 were just One off after one off after

one off and then oh, there's a five -parter that

that's continuity one off after one off after

one off This is one continuous story. This episode

just happened to have a lot of comedy in it.

Yes, and It was nice to see the humans decide

to be like, yeah kind of had my fill of fun They're

they're like, yeah, I'm not gonna do the zombie

thing again Thank God for that I like how they,

how, uh, um, Mikko says, how can a zombie arm

move faster than the actual zombie? You know

what I thought of when I first saw the zombie

arm? Thing? Yes. Robo -Thing. It's dead. Oh my

god. I love Thing. Thing is so cool. Is it Thing

1 or Thing 2? No, Thing. I know. I was being

a smartass. There's only one. There's only one

true Thing. But yeah, TF Prime has been pretty

much non -stop awesome. Yep. And I can't really

complain about it at all. Even with the, I mean,

I think it's because we've become accustomed

to it now. Even with the fact that it's partial

movie design, I don't care. It's a well -written

show. I don't care about the designs whatsoever,

because it is still there, even though the Optimus

and the Bumblebee are movie design, that Megatron

design is unique to this cartoon. Bulkhead is

a little bit of animated, but it still has its

own style, even though it's still mimicking other

stuff, if that makes any sense. It's still its

own entity, and it's still very, very awesome.

Oh yeah, they've been doing pretty much great

everything since day one with this show. So I

mean, it's not a dead concept in any means. And

I'm glad that they're doing what they're doing.

I mean, it does need some levity in there, but

it's still keeping true to everything. And I

honestly can't wait to see what they're doing

next. the next episode I believe is called operation

breakdown yep that's the one where the Autobots

have to save breakdown from Megatron I think

I thought it was from Silas oh yeah sorry from

Silas but yeah that's going to be interesting

to say the least I think the only thing that

could hurt this show is the breakups with episodes.

Like I said before, if it's not a holiday season,

I don't understand why they're doing a breakup

unless it's because of the cast going to BotCon.

That could be the only thing. Maybe they don't

have the voices recorded for the next few...

I don't know. I'm not really sure. I always assume

that they always had the production done before

they release a show, but you just never know.

Yeah, I'm not very fond of how they keep doing

that. I mean, I'm kind of glad they did it the

week they did it because I was on vacation. Not

that it would have stopped me from watching it

on YouTube or putting it on Predacon Empire,

but... I still think that they shouldn't go five,

six episodes and then put it on a break. Five,

six episodes, put it on a break. Yeah, no. That's

a little strange to me. It's just kind of...

I don't know. It hurts the show. I mean, look

what they're... But I think they're trying to

get it to limp along little by little until the

film comes out. That could be. And then that

way it doesn't lose any interest and then...

once the movie's over they'll go full blast back

into it and then it would be righteous do the

toys and everything else i mean i can kind of

see yeah i can see it from that angle yeah but

it's it's it's kind of hit or miss it i i'm hoping

that they do this right well i think they are

doing it right it just it just depends on the

timing of and again i think one of the reasons

why is maybe because The cast is getting ready

to show up at BotCon, so that in conjunction

with the movie could be why it's been on a week

or so hiatus. Yeah. But anyways, I think that's

about it as far as the regular episode's concerned.

Is there anything else that you're looking forward

to in the next week or two? Um, well... As far

as Transformers? Well BotCon obviously cuz BotCon

is next week. Yes. I Am glad Like I mean, I know

this is unrelated to transformers for the most

part but uh about Tara Strong's interview Telling

about the Arkham City Yeah, which is awesome

I can't wait to hear the future interviews that

we've got coming up for All Things Transformers

and various other tie -ins to other shows in

the coming month. We've got two within the next

week that we're going to be doing, which are

going to be epic. One of which, I don't know

if you're releasing what yours is. I think you've

already said, haven't you? About what? About

the BotCon stuff? Yes. About who your special

interview is. Oh yeah, it's hard to stand, but

Michael Wilson and I talked to Stan Bush about

BotCon and 25th anniversary of Transformers the

movie and yeah. Yeah, so I mean we've got that

and then we've got Shout Factory DVD extraordinaire

guy Brian Ward coming up next week. So that will

definitely be awesome. We can hopefully get some

questions rounded out and get Kevin to join us

and Yeah, maybe get some questions answered before

it comes out and DVD on the following Tuesday

after the record so Yes, yes, that's very true

Anything else that you'd like to pimp out before

we close this off? Don't think so. I think that's

that's pretty much in as far as transformer stuff

I'm still doing the I started doing the toy cast

and weekly news episodes Right now we only have

two weeks of news episodes so far and Because

we are now sponsored by big bad toy store for

real Wow, I just thought I saw something move

on my desk. It wasn't supposed to move You're

not supposed to smoke the crack before you do

So I've been putting on a couple of Toycast news

episodes, one with Michael Wilson and one with

Octobotomist. I'll probably continue to do that

when I can, but it's not... I think I'll do one

every time that there's like a news, like a toy

news roundup through like Toy Arc or when BBTS

puts out their newsletter, so I'll actually have

stuff to pimp out for BBTS. But yeah, I've been

having fun doing that. Tooncast is coming to

an end. We're starting a transformation animation

podcast, which we got some super awesome promos

from Tara for that. Plus some more coming soon.

Yep. Yep. There's lots of like the next two and

a half, three months are going to be super awesome

and super busy for us over here at GCRN. Oh yeah.

Oh my god, it's gonna be so awesome. So yeah,

that's pretty much it though. Alrighty then,

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Megatron is never nice. He's evil. I'm not even

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what hole this would go down and what road. And

I'm not willing to have it go down the low road.

So. All things lead back to the low road. No.

Never. This episode should be subbed out of the

low road, not the long haul. No. But anyways,

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you next time guys. Later. I wish to speak to

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