Dark of the Moon and Transformers Prime Discussion

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7 Your host Steve Megatron Phillips and as you

heard, it's not only TFG one mic this week, but

also Jesse From the F wire. Yes. Hello The defunct

and dead tf wire archive you've had a lot of

problems with your So many problems I Finally

moved over to the web host that you guys are

using now though. So so far so good Although

nobody would know because there's no website.

I Like it pretty well they they do a good job

It's like every time I go to TFWire .com, you

have reached the new home of TFWire. There's

nothing currently here. Well, the biggest pain

was moving my domains over to... I use GoDaddy

for pretty much all my domains, despite the fact

that the CEO, Hunson, kills elephants. But I

needed to move some domains over and that finally

happened and I finally figured out how to point

them to where they need to point, so... Now I

just got to put a website up. Yes Yes, this is

I believe this is the very first time Jesse is

done podcasting since he and Spada did the TF

wire April Fool's check -in which was about a

year year and a half ago Yeah, I was trying to

think when the last time but that would be in

would have been April 1st Yeah, yeah, I was trying

to think um I might have done something By myself

solo yeah the times after that, but I can't remember

So what have you been up to, Steve? Badgering

people that have to do with the Darkglass project.

Yep. Lovely. I haven't heard back from half the

cast. The other half is like, yeah, I'm getting

it soon. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Yes. I might

have to recast some of them, which unfortunately,

none of them I can voice. See, that's a problem

when people aren't getting paid. They have no

incentive to get the work into it. I know. But

I have one paid voice actor that, I mean, we

aren't paying him, but he gets paid by other

people for other work, but he's in it, and yeah.

So what's up with you, Mike? Nothing, the usual.

Today, as we are recording this, it is Saturday,

May 7th. One of the reasons why my comic book

shop, local comic book shop here in Kentucky

does free comic book week instead of comic just

on a good day is because the first saturday of

every may is the fucking kentucky derby i'm so

sick of the shit i was in the state of kentucky

derby yeah i've lived in the state state for

nearly twenty years now and i lost interest about

ten years ago on the damn kentucky derby that's

today isn't yes we have to go find a tv unless

you know of any places streaming online Don't

I don't pay attention to it my my main point

on on the derby is I don't get why It's all this

partying and all this celebration for it a two

and a half minute horse race Well, I think the

competitive aspect of it, but I don't get the

whole dressing up we're in the big hats That's

what I'm saying. I don't it's just an excuse

for them to party. That's that's all it is Well

when you're rich you get to spend your money

on something I guess it's true Um, but I did,

I'm not sure if I mentioned this last episode,

a fan of ours over at Geekcast Radio and ATTF

and all that stuff, Wing800, who lives locally

to me, he's in my local area, actually dropped

off two giant crates of Transformers toys. So

I've been slowly going through those and picking

out the ones I want to keep and the ones I'll

eventually get rid of or whatever. I don't know

yet. Oh, I got some crates of transformers I

want to get rid of. If you're giving them away

for free, you can send them to me. But other

than that, just podcasting like normal, prepping

up MWIRE. I'm getting, this week in Geek, a new

cartoon review podcast starting up this month.

Other than that, not much is going on. Yes. So

should we just jump right into the news? Yeah,

that sounds good. All right Starting off the

news We're gonna jump into transformers dark

of the moon video game pre -order and launch

bonuses revealed And it appears that GameStop

has a code for sideswipe and Amazon has one for

ratchet Yeah Anybody interested in this not really

no, I don't get the whole exclusive code for

unlocking characters That's just something that

I don't really like about when they release a

game because everybody's trying to entice you

to buy it at their store Yeah, it I don't know.

It's not a big enough enticement for me I'm more

so going for the price and whether I like what's

going to be in the game Yeah, I mean if I'm if

I'm showing out the money for the game. I would

expect That I get everything right up front.

I don't I don't want to be able to have to go

to a certain retailer To get a code to unlock

a character. I know eventually I guess at some

point within the game You'll be able to unlock

the character, but this is unlocks them up front,

but I I'm not a big fan of that Yeah, I don't

really care for that either and Personally I've

I mean I've heard some good things about this

game that it's supposed to be along the war for

Cybertron Playability instead of the time -based

junk that the previous two films had Which is

why I didn't buy the second game yeah, and I

immediately sold the first Well, I don't even

think you can sell the first now and getting

any money off of it I still have the first one.

I never finished it. I didn't either I think

I got about to that level where you get the Decepticon

you can't actually hit Yeah, I got to the level

where your bumblebee and you have to race through

some sort of tunnel or something I could never

beat the clock. Yeah, I'm just like to help with

this and I quit playing it. I spent about 10

or 15 minutes on the first game and after the

bumblebee time Trial levels in the very beginning.

I said screw it. I went online got cheat codes

and found level select That was it I spent more

time blowing up the city than I did actually

being in the game. Yup. I just gave up. Felt

like it was a waste of 50 or 60 bucks every cost.

That's why I was glad I bought it for 20 at Target

for the PC. Continuing on the Dark of the Moon

bandwagon, we're going to jump over to the iTunes

movie trailer record because it supposedly breaks

the record. Which apparently was set previously

by Avatar. Not surprising though. Which part?

About that Avatar had the record previously.

I'm kind of surprised that Transformers beat

it, but then again they've actually got good

advertising going on for this film. Why would

it take so long to release the numbers? I don't

know, it's been out a while hasn't it? That's

what I was thinking, yeah. It's been out a week

or so, yeah. I don't know Yeah, yeah, it had

to have been out a week or so because yeah It

has been on a week or so because they they it

got leaked on it actually got leaked on to Apple

iTunes Trailers on the 28th because on the 29th

that was going in front of fast five in theaters

So I was so pissed. I saw fast five and I did

not see that trailer really they I'm assuming

that the people who work at the theater are the

ones responsible for organizing the trailers.

I've never worked in a movie theater, but my

assumption or guess is that, okay, these are

the trailers you're supposed to put in front

of a movie or Ken put in front of a movie, and

then they're supposed to, however they do it,

they're supposed to put those trailers in front

of a particular movie. I did get the Transformers

trailer, but it was the previous one. So I didn't

know if they just put the wrong trailer in front

of it. Or how that happens. April Fools! Late!

I was so pissed. Oh my god. But then again, we

don't have geniuses at some of the Michigan theaters

either. Yeah, that's true. I am looking forward

to the 3D version with pirates, though. Them

bastards better get it right this time. Yes.

And if they don't, they'll be five, six, seven,

however many more they're gonna do. But I was

looking at I looked up some information earlier

before we started and yeah Apparently the previous

record holder was avatar at four million views

and the one before that I don't see the movie

title But it says it was 1 .7 million views and

transformers beat it out at 6 million So what

do you think that you think that bodes well for

the movie then I? Would say so I see my problem

is really especially with the transformers films

With trailers if it's on TV or online It just

doesn't like I can get excited just because I

want to see the movie But when I went to go see

fast 5 and I saw the trailer on the giant screen

I got way more excited for seeing the film versus

just sitting here at my computer watching it

online Do you guys think this one's gonna have

mass appeal like the first one did like I I My

parents went and saw the very first movie on

the preview night, which was the night before

the opening night. They went with me, or I got

them to go with me, and they saw it. They loved

the film. However, they've never seen the second

one, and they don't really have any interest

in seeing the second one. They're probably smarter

than the rest of us then. So I'm just wondering

if the people who passed on the second one, if

you think this will bring them in? maybe but

it depends I mean you know Bayes said oh this

is my last one I'm done with it I need to move

on to other stuff it depends on what happens

with the franchise after this film I'm excited

for it regardless of what happened in Revenge

of the Fallen I'm not too excited about what's

gonna happen in it though because I kind of already

know and I'm not gonna share that to save spoilers

sake but it I don't know I think with number

one they're not being a rider strike number two

they're actually working at it because everyone

in that production realizes what a shithole Revenge

of the Fallen was they're actually putting effort

into this and I actually applaud them for that

and like I said from what I've seen of the footage

and the trailer and all that stuff it looks great

so Who knows, maybe this could be a saving grace.

I personally am waiting for this because I think

that between all of the fan -wink that is in

it and the fact that they look like they've actually

got their ducks in a row compared to the previous

film, they're going to get a lot more appeal

there. And the fact that the trailer's gotten

this many hits and so many people are already

pumped about this one, whereas the second film

they were more so like, Yeah, not so much after

they got done watching it. It's one of those

films you can't really sit through very often

without fast forwarding. I wonder how many of

these are actually unique views. It doesn't say

that. It's probably over inflated. Are the fanboys

just sitting there hitting play and hitting play

and hitting play when it's done? I only watched

it once on Apple trailers that that was it. Yeah,

I watched it once as well and it was more so

just because I wanted to see the new trailer.

Yeah. And after that, I was like, OK, it looks

pretty good. I'm more pumped about it now, but

I'm not going to sit there and watch it six,

seven times. Yeah, I think I only watched it

once in Apple trailers. It was released. Didn't

they throw it up on YouTube first? I think so.

Because that's where I saw it first. And then

when they finally released it on iTunes, where

I could watch it in 1080p, I threw it up on my

TV. And I think that was the only time I watched

it. You know what really like I'm like for any

movie doesn't just have to be transformers I'll

get excited from seeing an actual official theatrical

trailer what really turns me off to any movie

is The constant oh my god. It's come. You know

it's after the theatrical trailer But like the

week the movie's supposed to release the constant

TV spots of oh coming this Friday in 3d blah

blah blah Transformers 3. It's like oh my god.

Stop hitting us over the head. We know it's coming

out Do either of you know if this is going to

be 3D only? I don't know if it's not 3D only.

I think it's supposed to be both. Okay. I don't

think he shot it exclusively in 3D or got it

completely done in 3D. I think he wanted to do

a little bit of both. Because I know here locally,

sometimes if the movies are offered in both,

they show both 2D and 3D versions. Other times,

they only show the 3D version. Yeah, I've noticed

that here too. I have two theaters close to me,

and one of them will not do both, and one of

them will. And the one that does both, I don't

really care to go to. Locally here, if they do

both, typically what I do is, because I usually

save the glasses from the previous movies, so

I just pay for the 2D one, and then I just go

to the 3D one. I'm like, I'm not paying for the

glasses. I already have them. Yeah. Makes sense.

Are the cops going to come and arrest me now?

I don't know. First in the second film. I didn't

even pay for that one. I went to the store and

grabbed the tags off the DVDs that they were

reselling. I don't even remember how many times

I saw the second one in the theater. I think

I saw it a couple times at least. I saw it once

and that was it. In the theaters I saw it once

and that was it. I've seen it several times on

DVD and stuff. I think I did see it twice because

the first time I ended up falling asleep. Well,

my grandma just died. I just learned that that

same day and a friend of mine and I we went to

see the movie and it was like the very first

the very first showing which I think was 1130

that night and shit we were just way too tired.

We both fell asleep. It was horrible. I saw it

and it was packed so I had to get a front Like,

within the first three rows, which is, as you

know, the worst spot you can go, because you're

straining your neck looking up. And on top of

it, I just got out of work. So I was like, you

know, this is kind of lame. And then I didn't

watch it again after that until I had the DVD.

I've seen it twice, and I haven't watched it

since. I still watch it every once in a while.

It's been quite a while since I've seen it. But

I think there are a few redeeming parts within

the movie. I mean, overall, it's terrible. Yeah,

there are a few good parts, but the 45 -minute

run through the desert to get to Prime was freaking

ridiculous. Yeah. And the random parts with the

twins, I just couldn't stand that because it

reminded me of people that live close to here.

Yeah. So are the twins in this movie or not?

I've heard no, but you never know with Michael

Bay I've heard that they're in it, but they get

killed at the very beginning Which would be awesome

I would love that so from the trailer footage

Jesse what what do you like and what you what

don't you like from from dark of the moon the

most recent trailer yeah um I don't know if there

was anything that I didn't like It's definitely

Michael Bay. I mean it's explosions and action

everywhere true I Don't know I guess just overall

I think it was it's definitely piqued my interest

I don't know that it focuses enough on the story

though I mean I know it's not gonna like lay

out all the details of the story within the two

whatever minutes it was trailer but it should

it should hit it some of the some of the story,

not just like, oh, alien invasion, here's the

whole movie. I mean, because that's like, you

walk away from the trailer thinking that. It

shows you the parts on the moon, okay. Here's

Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, they see

the robots, whatever. And then it cuts to present

day, and then you see like, the robots leaving

the moon, and then they're invading Earth now.

I'm hoping it's more than just an alien invasion

movie. I would assume it is since Shockwave is

standing in the middle of the city. It almost

looks like it's going to be an invasion movie

and almost the Autobots against everybody because

the humans lied to them about it because they've

known about this the whole time. They've got

the space bridge, of course, that they're jumping

from the moon with all their random Decepticons

to Earth. All these random characters, new characters

that are popping up or randomly disappearing

of old ones. Are they gonna have names or are

they just gonna show up for a couple scenes and

then die? I think a lot of them are just cannon

fodder. Quite literally. I hate that. They're

like quick eye candy and then they're like, okay,

goodbye. My main thing about the trailer that

I Not that I disliked it, but I Would love it

if David Warner would be the voice of shockwave,

but I don't think he is we would have heard something

by now But my one thing about the trailer was

we see shockwave. He just doesn't talk yet. I'm

like, oh No, stop teasing us. Damn it. Maybe

you won't talk at all That would be weird it's

just you Morse code with his eyeball and version

of shockwave thank you that'd be hilarious it'd

be horrible but it'd be hilarious they'll throw

up captions on the screen so you can read what

he's saying he'll start talking in clicks It

might I Think we'll jump over to the convention

news, which is like we blew we blew our budget

on the CGI We can't hire more voice actors. Yeah

Hey Joe, come over here. Stop running the camera.

We need you to do the voice start clicking exactly

So the convention news BotCon 2011 Actually,

maybe we should get get this out of the way TFCon

2011 will be late July this year after BotCon

But Simon Furman is scheduled to be a guest at

TFCon Yeah, and apparently Not only is he going

to be showing up there and it's his first ever

appearance everybody's rallying for him to pick

up where the old Marvel comics left off from

their 80 -issue run and start with issue 81,

restarting from there. On the one hand, I'm actually

doing this because I currently just like everything

that IDW has done so far with the exception of

the Beast Wars comics. personal bias and personally

not because I preferred the storyline that Dreamwave

had going more so than the IDW one and Just because

IDW has that shit crazy writing because they

don't keep any kind of continuity between things

and The other I think that they should just let

it die because that You know almost 20 years

ago mm -hmm, so it's it's kind of a win -lose

situation there with the comics I just don't

see it appealing to anybody else but people that

like the original Marvel run. See, I was wondering

why you did a story a couple weeks ago about

the petition for Transformers 81 and now I realize

what it was for was because of the Simon Furman

Marvel thing. I'm like, oh, okay. Like I've said

before on this show, I'm so not into Transformers

comics, but I hope to rectify that later today.

Free comics yay No, no, you need to watch the

horses on TV No No, no, no I Mean I think you

know TF con bot con they always get great guests

TF con has really gotten a lot of great guests

and in the past so Having him up there is is

pretty cool Is he really a great guest though?

I mean come on not only am I not in the comics?

I'm not this. I'm not a big fan of Simon Furman

Okay, I mean I've done this ntf warrior before

I've just gone off on this. I don't get him I

don't get what the appeal of him is doesn't need

Doesn't he want to move on to something else

and do something different? Everyone's like Simon

Furman Simon Furman blah blah blah. I'm like

it's his moneymaker. Yeah I don't get it. He's

a one -trick pony at this point. I guess. And

everyone's like, oh, he's so great. His work

is great. Blah, blah, blah. I think it's more

so because people prefer what he wrote in all

the previous comics and everything compared to

what's going on now. I think it's that they haven't

found a suitable replacement. So they're like

the G1ers. Is that what you're saying? I would

honestly say so. Oh, okay. Wow. Gotcha. There

you go. I mean, because if you think about it,

he's done pretty much everything to do with G1,

Grimlock, Armada, Energon, like all the comic

crap. I mean, it's... He's done with it, so he

knows a lot about it, but that doesn't necessarily

mean that he should be the one to continue it.

But I mean, is he really that great of a guest?

He whores himself out to practically every convention.

Well, I mean I'm sure he's not their only guest

and again TF con hasn't really announced a whole

lot of guests We're just now getting news of

the BotCon stuff. So I mean What I what I said

was when I think he's a great guest for TF con

I mean as far as on the comic side of guests

like his you know BotCon always has like this

artist alley or you know All these like that

they have two separate panels at botcom They'll

have voice actors writers types, you know, like

flint dilly stuff like that And then they'll

have a whole other section for just comic book

people as I'm saying as far as comic book people

He's a good guest for tf. God. I don't know.

I much rather see pat lee and have a panel with

him. Oh, wow That would stir up a lot of crap

Interesting guest that is true. He can draw them

though Yeah, as long as you want to look like

a marshmallow it depends I Guess we'll jump over

to the BotCon guests because they're a lot more

interesting than we've got here. Yes First up

is Flint still he will be at BotCon this year.

Very cool And supposedly he's gonna be a part

of a special panel Has he gone to back on before

yes, he has okay. He went last year correct hmm.

I don't think so It's been a few years since

he's been there. I think Well, I thought he was

very insightful in the the re -release of the

the g1 series Mm -hmm a lot of the behind -the

-scenes stuff. Yeah, I think he did some commentaries

too. Yeah, he did commentary on the movie But

I felt like he was the most interesting person

To do the behind -the -scenes stuff in that that

whole whole box set so yeah, I Mean the guy seems

interesting if I was going to back on I would

attend that panel Yes, but it's it and it's one

of those things that surprised me because it's

like oh well Yeah, because it because it because

he I don't think he's been in a few years and

it's like Every time they've gotten guests over

the last couple of years. It's mainly been voice

actors Not that I have any against the voice

actors going to the panels and stuff like going

to the conventions and stuff. That's great But

it's nice to see someone from generation one

Come back to BotCon at least to represent it,

right? And Megatron, I know you want to talk

about this next guest. Yes. And he was, Flint

Dilley was at 2009, was the previous one. Oh,

was he? Yes. The next guest is David Kay. And

he's been to BotCon several times. 97, 98, 2007,

2008, 2009. He's been to TFCon last year. I mean,

he's been all over. In any case, yes, he's at

this year's BotCon, and he's having his own panel,

apparently. Something special that they're keeping

quiet about right now. He says details later

as far as his Twitter confirmation. He'll be

at the convention Friday, June 3rd from 1 to

4. So a very short... appearance anyway. I wish

they was going to TFCon because I'm more than

likely going to go to that one more so because

of price and distance. BotCon is batshit insane

to drive to or to fly to just cost wise. Are

you telling me you don't want to spend $600 in

the convention toys? Hell no. I like the toys

for some of the stuff they come out with. This

year's not appealing to me all that much. I would

have more so wanted the prequel Beast Wars Megatron

that they had years ago that goes for like $1

,500 on eBay now, which I'm having my son look

for. But I would prefer to go to TFCon just because

it's just closer and cheaper. I like Transformers,

but not enough to pay a grand to go to a convention.

So I'm glad that he's going. And I think that's

great, but I wish he was going to TFCon again.

Here's a question for you. Like Simon Furman,

don't you think he's a little overplayed? Yes

and no. I think it's more so because he did one

of the more iconic Megatrons, which, I mean,

obviously that's why I'm enthused about whenever

he appears somewhere. But I think it's just because

he's... had a presence since Beast Wars all the

way up until Animated, one of the longest running

voice actors from series to series. But again,

that's probably why they went in a different

direction and went back to the original voice

actors for TF Prime. Yeah, like I was 64 back

when we were doing CF wire like early on. He

met him at a convention. He sat down and did

like a video interview with him and he's a great

guy. But it just seems like when you're reading

off those years about like how often he's appeared,

it seems like he's like there either every year

or every other year. It just seems like maybe

they should space him out a little bit more.

So it's more special. Well, 2008 he was there.

He was in Cincinnati because 2008 was when they

were. you know, premiering. He was there, Tara

Strong was there, a whole bunch of animated people

were there because that was when Animated was

just starting out and was really big and they

wanted to give that a push. The other years,

unless they've officially announced him as a

guest, maybe he's just gone because he wanted

to go. I don't know. Last year, he went to TFCon

more so because he was already on vacation in

the area and I happened to ask him. It was more

so just a kind of drop -by thing, but it was

not like it was pre -set up, all that in advance.

I mean, it's great. I'd like to meet him, get

his autograph or something, but other than that,

I can see the need for maybe some variations.

With some other people that haven't necessarily

been to conventions as often. Yeah, I mean, you

know unless you know somebody, you know Primes

Frank Welker with a chew toy. I mean really who

are you gonna get? I mean honestly out of the

people that voice the main villains and the main

heroes especially It also depends on where the

convention is held, you know last year it was

Orlando this year It's LA the year before last

year was was LA as well or Honey, wherever the

hell it is, Pasadena, whatever. California is

voice actor stomping ground. They're always there.

I don't think it's just the fact that they've

reached out to him. It's the fact that it's right

there for him. It's convenient for them. I'm

surprised they haven't announced Peter Cullen

yet, to be honest with you. How about Leonard

Nimoy? I really doubt he'll do it. Doesn't he

do the Star Trek conventions? I think he did,

but I guess he's ungodly difficult to get to

from one of the Star Trek podcasts I listen to.

They wait four hours to see him, and then he

just got up and kind of left. And then came back

after like two and a half hours, and it took

forever to get through. At least Spock, damn

it, he doesn't have time. Somebody had him sign

their Galvatron. Yeah. You know, the thing with

Nimoy is I heard that same type of story about,

you know, waiting four or five hours in line,

and then he'd left for a break, and he didn't

come back for another three hours when he did

come back. He wouldn't even make eye contact

with people. Like, people would say hello to

him. He would just, you know, stick his hand

out like, what do you want me to sign, blah,

blah, blah, and just sign it here and basically

go the hell away. And I don't ever... I don't

care what convention it is, I don't ever want

to meet this guy because holy crap. You don't

just be rude to your fans, whether they're Transformers

fans, Star Trek fans, it doesn't matter. You

just don't act like that. And I get the guy thinks

he deserves some sort of something or other,

I don't know. And I get that a lot of these people

charge for autographs and pictures and stuff

like that, but I'm sorry. His prices are outrageous.

A buddy of mine said he wanted 60 bucks for an

autograph and a hundred and sixty bucks for a

picture. Like, sorry, not happening. Well, you're

paying for old -ness and experience. To hell

with that! I can just go to the internet and

print out a picture. And then you can graph to

signature from somebody else's picture and put

it on there. Exactly. Yeah, and I can Photoshop

myself in. Voila! Yeah! Voila, you're there.

I got this picture with Leonard Nimoy. See? For

free! It's real. It's funny. If there was a guest

you'd like to see at one of the conventions,

be... If there was a guest that I wanted to see

at one of the conventions, you're saying? I think

so. Yeah, Steve's breaking up again. Steve? Yes,

I'm here. Okay. If there was a host or a guest

that you would like to see at one of the conventions,

who would you want? Welker. He's never been.

I'd have to agree. He hasn't been to a single

one, and it'd be something different. Go ahead,

Jesse. I thought he went to one when they had

it in California the last time. No. Or did he

just have... They had something at the convention

that he had autographed then, correct? That was

video last year when they were announcing Prime

stuff. Okay, well, no, there was that, but there

was also something I believe. Yeah, there was

something he autographed, but it wasn't a Transformers

convention. Okay. It was like a Comic -Con or

something. I'm gonna have to look this up. He

was never at a Transformers convention. Yeah.

Okay, he might not have been there. I thought

that he just... he had signs like some some Megatron

posters or something like in the G1 Megatron

design and that they were offering them at the

convention and they were giving them out as part

of part of your package or whatever I almost

I can almost swear that there was something but

I know I know he hasn't actually shown up even

though I think I just said that he did or I thought

that he did but yeah you're right he hasn't actually

shown up at a convention but that would be kind

of cool if he did though Because getting Cullen

is easy. Cullen will go if it's a movie year.

Cullen will go if it's not a movie year. It just

depends. I don't think getting Cullen is as easy

as getting someone like David Kay, who David

Kay is just genuinely interested in what's going

on with it. I don't know, maybe Sue Blue? Judd

Nelson? I'd love to see Judd Nelson at one of

the conventions. Isn't he falling off the face

of the Earth? Well... I'm just saying, you know,

I'm trying to think out of the box here, dammit.

I'll think out of the box, and I'll say if you

can resurrect him, bring back Chris Lada. Yeah,

unfortunately no. We wouldn't have nothing but

the ghost of Chris Lada. So, did you guys see

that BotCon 2011 video? I did, yes. Steve? Yes.

I thought he disappeared again. Yes. Did you

hear me? I hear you. Yeah, we can hear you, but

barely. Yes, I don't know why. I think my Skype

is on the fritz. Think it's your your internet

connection again there. It's dropping off. It

could be I might have to ditch out Comcast again

Yeah, he's all wireless, but that's because the

where the connections that in this place. It's

in a bad area I'm on wireless, too. I'm just

wondering if someone else is stealing your connection.

They can't I have it in a 26 -digit code Okay,

now you're sounding better. Well. Hey anything

is possible That is true. Okay, since you're

sounding better. I'm gonna start this off again

Have you guys seen the 2011 BotCon announcement

video thing? Yes, yes, what did you think Jesse?

Who was this produced by? Dr. Smoove. Okay, that's

the guy that had done like the the parody videos

before right? Yeah, he does pretty much all the

promo videos. How long has he been doing that?

A number of years. Okay, for a number of years.

Yeah. Does he do all the voice work down there?

As far as I know, he does 90 % of it. Okay. I

thought it was pretty good. His Starscream voice,

if he's doing Starscream, is a little bit off,

but I thought overall that the video was pretty

fun. A nice little promo video. I couldn't tell

just because it looks a little dark on my screen,

but when the two Starscreams are talking to each

other and They're talking about the toys. Are

they actually holding the toys? Yeah, um and

what happens in the video is regular G1 Starscream

has I think he has oh the breakdown G2 breakdown

and He picks it up And he puts it down again

and then the animated Starscream picks it up

and like almost like Fists it in his hand like

he kind of Just closes his hand over it while

they're talking Gotcha. I don't know. It's kind

of weird. It looked like they were holding it,

but I couldn't tell at least not from my monitor

Yeah, they were at a couple of times. Yeah But

I think the Dr. Smooth guy, he's pretty good.

Does he do the, in addition to the voiceover

work, he does the, he actually produces the videos

too, correct? Yeah. He does the animation and

stuff, yeah. Well his stuff's getting better

and better. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm really liking

the designs that he's got, as well as the voicing

that goes on in it. It's actually one of the

best animated stuff that people come up with

online. The stars the the animated Starscream

was too toy accurate for me It wasn't really

show accurate now. I don't know if that's to

say that they're probably going to I Don't think

I think all of the exclusives have been leaked

for BotCon this year like beyond the box that

I think all of the additional like like the attendee

exclusive and all that other stuff I think everybody

knows about him now, so at first I'm like, why

would he use the toy version? I don't know about

him. Huh? I don't know about him. Right. Well,

for those of us that are still in the Transformers

fandom. I don't know, I just thought that the

video itself is great, but the model on the animated

Starscream was too toy accurate for me. Other

than that, it was pretty cool though. Despite

that it was a funny video just because Megatron

catches two star screams And then the one just

they animated points at the regular one and just

runs away. Yeah Like you want him not me and

then just runs I Love his Megatron voice though.

Oh, yeah, he does a great job. I Like his optimus

voice too, there's still a better optimus out

there that a lot of us At least Fandubbers have

heard. It's John Bailey. I think I've heard him

too, yeah. He's actually better at it. He's actually

our Optimus Primal for our Darkglass project.

But he also has a video that just came out too

as well for BotCon. Okay. And it's... He's doing

an advertisement. It's for the fan film festival

and he has he kind of plays it out like it's

a Like a movie trailer type thing for the the

films except he uses it for BotCon and then it's

got a our 3d model of Beast Wars Transmetal Megatron

in it and David Kaye doing the voice for it.

And they originally did this model for the Darkglass

project and I'm the voice for it in that but

they worked out all the kinks with my voice and

then David Kaye actually got to do his role which

was awesome. Yeah, the only time Steve is not

upset that he gets shafted out of voicing Megatron

is when David Kaye has to do it. Yes. It's the

only time I don't get pissed about it. I actually

welcome that. When we interviewed David Kaye,

I had said to Steve, I said, why don't you show

him what you can do as far as your voicing? And

so Steve did part of his Megatron and David Kaye's

like, wow, that was like... Probably the best

imitation I've heard besides my own. Cool. This.

It's just a general advertising piece though,

or promotional piece. I don't know that they

actually need the video. I assume everyone that

knows about BotCon already knows about it. Where's

it going to be? What they're going to have, or

who's attending, or what the toys are, or whatever.

So I guess I don't know from a promotional standpoint.

If this is any good or will have any effects,

but I guess it's just a nice little piece for

the fans I think it's more so for shits and giggles.

Yeah, it is It's it's more so anything else we

want to bring up before we go to the transformers

prime news No I got one little thing. What's

that? I guess I should have brought this up when

we were actually discussing the game. I was watching

a video on IGN and they said that it was actually

a prequel to the movie. I guess I didn't realize

that. Maybe a prequel novel? Was that it? Well,

no. On the IGN video that I watched, they said

that the game... All the game is a prequel to

the third film. Yeah After the events of the

second one and before the events of the third

one. Oh, yeah, that could be interesting I guess

I didn't realize that was the direction they

were going Hmm. Yeah, we read about that a while

back and actually I think that idea is better

than it then trying to do a direct Imitation

of the movie that you're watching because those

usually ninety nine percent of the time flop

Yeah Whereas if they have, you know, they have

guidelines to kind of stick to, it's still keeping

the game good. And again, like I said before,

and Steve said before, as long as there are no

time constraint levels, we'll be full K with

it. Because that was the biggest, my biggest

issue with the first two games was those, oh,

you have to get here in this amount of time,

and I could never do it. Timed missions in any

game. are the worst thing ever yes they are yes

i i hate the time games that's infuriating to

me and insults my intelligence to play rockstar

games i'm looking at you transformers game one

and two all right we will be right back after

this fate rarely calls upon us at the moment

of our choosing welcome back And now we're going

to get into the massive discussion that we've

been building up for the last few weeks Take

it away Mike Okay, so a couple of weeks ago.

I think it was that whenever we did episode 6

of all things transformers I Had reported on

this week in geeks nerd news the previous Sunday

or whatever about the fact of Lincoln Park having

more involvement with the Transformers movies.

And Steve heard that and he deliberately put

a Lincoln Park story into ATTF last time because

he wanted to hear me rant on it again. My main

problem, I get that Michael Bay and Paramount

and everybody, they want to use licensed artists.

I'm so sick of Lincoln Park being the Artist

for these films. I just don't get it and I listen

to the song that supposedly there well not supposedly

they they are putting in now iridescent and it's

like I Can see where it probably fits as an end

credit song But I can't see it fitting to the

story of the film if they're gonna play like

an instrumental part of the song during the film

End credits song, fine. I don't give a shit about

end credits. Half the time, unless people say,

oh, stay after the credits, because there's going

to be a hidden scene. I never stay after the

credits. But I'm just so sick of Linkin Park

being this end -all, be -all, supposed Transformers

film musicians. Jesus Christ, I know he's not

that relevant nowadays, but damn it, give Stan

Bush a chance. Assholes. Fucking Michael Bay

pisses me off. Yeah, I don't know where to go

for go from that. Oh Well, I would honestly say

that I Wish that they would put you know stand

in it at least you know as not only fan wake

but just because think that The the Sam's theme

would have at least fit for the previous film.

Yeah with You know Sam having to run across the

desert for 45 minutes to bring the matrix to

prime But I mean and I kind of wish that they

would give the guy a chance for you know at least

That song or maybe something else that might

be more fitting And I don't think we go with

Lincoln Park, I think I mean I think that yes

Like they normally do doing it, but not just

have Lincoln Park is the headliner And see that's

my that's my point if they need to go with licensed

artists And they don't want to use Stan Bush.

You've got plenty of other licensed artists out

there You've got I know people don't like them,

but you've got Nickelback. You've got theory

of a dead man You've got Creed for Christ's sake

anybody, but Lincoln Park damn it something different

Jesse's always talking about oh, we need something

different in transformers. We need something

you know not the same old stuff what lincoln

park is getting fucking old to me you do realize

iraq is dead though right no no it's not yes

it's just around the radio that's why i don't

the radio is nothing but but top forty i live

in a college town and that's especially the case

but even like there's this local radio station

i know here in michigan it's out of kalamazoo

michigan I listen to it almost exclusively, if

I'm not listening to serious satellite radio

on my phone, I listen to it almost exclusively.

It's because it's a great rock station. They

play classic rock, and they play some of the

newer stuff. But that's one of the only rock

stations that I know of here in this state that

plays anything like that. Everything else usually

either plays Top 40, which may include some of

the newer rock stuff, like you were saying, like

Three of a Dead Man, or maybe Nickelback. But

for the most part, it's just Top 40. Rock is

mostly dead if you turn on the radio. I don't

know why they keep going with Linkin Park. I

don't know why they selected Linkin Park to begin

with, other than they had a new album out at

the time, and the song seemed to fit the end

of the first movie. And they're like, well, that

was a big hit. We'll stick with that for the

second film. The second film or the song they

use for the second film. I thought that fit as

well The song they selected for this film called

iridescent If you listen to it with the lyrics,

it seems extremely slow Like you like you explained

it sort of sounds like it's a song they would

play at the end credits Yeah, and I'm almost

positive that's where we'll see it Yeah, but

I'm pretty sure that at least this is my guess

going into this after listening to the song That

we won't hear we won't hear the lyrics. We'll

probably just hear the music portion of it It

will hear that before I'm assuming the great

big end battle at the movie, at the end of the

movie. And then the song will take us out into

the credits at the end. That's my guess. Yeah.

I mean, I don't mind if they do an instrumental

version of it and use it in the film, but I just,

like with the lyrics, I just, like you said,

it's too slow. Supposedly this is supposed to

be super hi -fi action type stuff in this movie,

more so than the last film. And I just don't

see iridescent fitting with the lyrics. Right,

that's why I think it's an end credits song,

because you actually read the lyrics. It seems

to fit well with what you would expect to see

at the end of this film. So that's why I think

this could be an end credits song. But I also

feel like, and I was just reading in that link

that you posted. Hello? Yes. Okay. I thought

it sounded like someone disappeared. And the

link that Mike posted, I was reading, and they

were talking about using the song. And I can't

find it, but they're talking about using the

music to the song it was overlaid on top of some

sort of video And they sort of speculated that's

what they we do for the Transformers movie That's

what my guess is gonna be that's they're gonna

play just the instrumental the music portion

of the song right before this this end battle

or whatever will typically hear your Like your

orchestral music during the battle and then at

the end we're gonna hear this entire song That's

my guess anyways. Yeah, and I guess when you

put it that way it's okay, but my point still

remains. So I'm just wondering, so this is a

song that's already been made. It appears to

fit in with what happens, at least based on the

trailer in the Transformers movie. You said if

they were to select someone else, and you named

off a couple of different people, what song from

them would you use? We'll see, that's the thing

though. I don't, my biggest thing is I don't

want whatever mainstream artists they would have

gotten besides Linkin Park. I don't want it to

just be an album tie -in. I want it to be something

that is specific. Like New Divide, that was a

single done for Revenge of the Fallen. That wasn't

tied to any album. You know, and New Divide,

I like the instrumental version better than the

lyrical version. I think that fit the movie better.

It's not even about choosing a nickel backer

if you have a dead man or creed or you know,

whoever audio slave or What's another one I can

think of? Hell God smack, you know just somebody

different That would fit they're still around

are they even relevant? Yes, they are very relevant

Massachusetts I don't know where do you listen

to your music at? iTunes I'm going to look them

up on iTunes right now but what I'm saying is

it doesn't matter who it is as long as it's like

I would much rather Michael Bay go to an artist

and say hey I want you guys to create a song

in your style or whatever as long as it fits

this footage And just create a single for the

film not just something that ties into whatever

the artist is doing is that that's my point See

I would like to see I don't know I Mean you mentioned

having you know like God smack or something I

think disturbed would fit with it just during

at least during some of the you know for this

film more so because of the mass alien invasion.

I think they could pull off a song for that kind

of thing. I can kind of see what you're saying

about Linkin Park doing like the end credit song

or just before the major battle type thing with

the instrumentals. The first two films, the first

film I felt it fit it much better than these

two do with Linkin Park. The second film, I didn't

like the song, this one I like even less. Just,

I don't know, I think Linkin Park's kind of,

I don't know, past its prime, just like all the

other bands that are kind of hanging on by a

thread. I'm still going to say that's all the

rock bands. Yeah, I mean, all the rock bands

are kind of... on their last legs. They're kind

of just doing the same thing over and over because

that's really the only thing they can do just

because everybody keeps reinventing every other

kind of music form. They shouldn't go exclusively

with Linkin Park. There's got to be something

more to it than what they're... It's just it's

just ridiculous I mean if it was something else

if it was Even Lincoln Park it was like some

of the earlier stuff like hell they could have

used one step closer or something, you know,

some of the earlier stuff rather than just creating

something new. I wouldn't have minded that at

least for this film, but I don't know. It's not

relevant now. I know it's not relevant now, but

it doesn't matter. It's a hell of a lot better

than what they're using. I don't know. I still

think there's more to it than what they're letting

onto. There's something else there. I think that's

just... Think it's more so I think the reason

why you're okay with it Jesse's because you're

not as far into it as us Yeah, as far as the

transformers anymore. I mean, I know you're still

into it, but you're not like You know into it

into it like we are you you haven't entered the

matrix yet? It offends us just having Lincoln

Park attached to it because of what they're doing.

No, I took the pill and I'm You got out So I

think this is this is gonna kill the the soundtrack

talk And now ask Micatron Oh and welcome to Ask

Megatron. Yes. This week on Ask Megatron, I was

asked a question. Yes. And it was by none other

than Vacuminator. He asked me the audacity of

how did you and Barney meet? I... did not meet

Barney. Ever! No. That was a cheap joke that

was thrown into the Beast Unleashed podcast and

was never allowed to die. However, if you continue

to bring this up, anyone, I will fully TFJ1 Mike.

He will become the fucking... Well, I would say

the dead one, but it's not D1, so there. However,

I will not answer that question because I have

never met that nasty purple dinosaur who talks

to children. I despise them. That purple dinosaur

of Barney rapes little child's minds. I prefer

to destroy them without ever getting near. They

are contaminated. Yes. And as for you, Steve

Megatron, what the bloody hell is wrong with

you? You have botched this episode. Although

great in nature, and with your special guest

appearance, I would still say that you royally

botched this episode. TFG1 Mike, you're not much

better. However, if Skype would have behaved

properly, everything would be... as planned.

So, for now, I will see you next time, and if

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Transformers, then you can send them to me on

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rise up! Now back to all things Transformers.

Welcome back, and we are going to be talking

about Transformers Prime. Yes. Yes. First up

is the episode 14 out of his head preview clip.

And images. Yeah, I saw the clip. Very, very,

very cool. I don't know why... TFW couldn't embed

it with the images, but you had to go to MTV

Geek website or TuneZone as well to actually

see the clip. But I'm really liking what they're

doing with Transformers Prime so far. I'm liking

the animation style, the voicing. and just the

storyline in general that they've got going on,

especially with the last episode, how they figured

out a way of bringing Megatron back indirectly.

So you guys are way ahead of me in terms of the

episodes that you've seen. I was just going through

an episode guide online and I was trying to see

which one I had seen last. And I Don't know Didn't

you say you saw the one with wheeljack? I did

see that one, but I'm looking through the episodes

here And it looks like I don't know which one

wheeljack was I? Think maybe I the last one I

saw was episode 11 speed metal Okay, so you're

not so far behind you're only an episode or two

behind yeah to behind I'm loving the series.

I think the voice acting is phenomenal. Uh The

animation however, it seems like they they sort

of took a step back with that I Was expecting

a bit more at least based on what they said prior

to the series actually coming out like that This

is like the best stuff you've ever seen on TV

I'm like really I don't think so It might be

Step above what I would see on the sci -fi channel

But I don't know that it's necessarily all that

great But I do love the series. It's probably

the best animated beast or not beast transformers

cartoon to date And the other thing you're gonna

realize Jesse is that they're Mishmash a bunch

of different styles in this you've got movie

design. You've got animated design. You've got

That's true everything I think I so much prefer

the Beast Machines animation. I'm not going to

disagree with you there. I like Beast Wars Beast

Machines animation overall. But this would be

a close second to those. Oh yeah. So the episode

14 out of his head preview clip basically I believe

it showed the Autobots finding out what happened

to Megatron and showing him, you know, coming

back to life and all this and all that. It looks

great. I almost wish that they would do less

of promotion for it, though. I mean, like, promotion's

great, but what I'm saying is I wish that they

would show us less, like, just show us, like,

a little bit of a teaser, but not so much because...

Immediately like when they showed off the the

last episode the episode 13 thing The one that

just aired this this past week or whatever As

soon as that as soon as I saw the preview clip

for it. I immediately knew the ending of this

past week's episode Yeah, I have to agree with

you there just that It did give away too much

and from the preview clips that it's showing

right here. You know what's gonna happen. Oh,

yeah They're going to repair him. Yep And a certain

unspeaking bot has Megatron locked inside Yes

I I really like what they're doing with the series

and I like the fact that They do one -off characters

but Like in wheeljacks case Thank God he didn't

die because the creators have said when somebody

dies, they're dead They don't come back unless

it's like a flashback or something like that

So in wheeljacks case and in like breakdown and

knockouts case I'm glad that they're still around

to be brought back in but I'm also glad that

they're not They haven't just joined their respective

teams. They're still there, but they're in the

background to like, you know future adventures

or whatever. I don't know Yes Yes, Jesse any

thoughts Yes, yes 13 Believe 26 no 26. That's

right 26 and then 26 for the second season as

well How far spaced out are these episodes? I

mean are they because it seems like they had

released or they showed like the the first Whatever

the the first movie was was it like three or

four episodes or whatever? I've tried their darkness

rising. Yes, okay So five parts and then there

was a long period of nothing and then they released

a bunch of episodes again and then it seems like

Because the last one that I saw, whatever I said

that was, episode 11 or whatever, it seems like

there was a break again. So I'm like, well, OK,

we'll look on YouTube for a while. I'll wait

till some more episodes come out. And it seems

like they're releasing a couple again. Well,

the break between Darkness Rising and the actual

series premiere was probably so that they could

get it ready to go. They probably already had

those five parts of Darkness Rising done, because

that was technically the preview of the series.

Remember the old G .I. Joe cartoon where they

had the five -part miniseries to start it And

then they actually started the show That's the

same kind of thing here I think where they took

a break in between Programming this last time

in between episodes this last time was probably

I Don't know a holiday holiday something or I

I'm not really sure why they took a break in

between the episodes But right now as far as

I know they're running weekly Friday nights.

I'm looking online and Wikipedia here for a list

of episodes and says let's see what's the next

episode to air? Episode 14 out of his head. So

it says episode 14 airs on May 7th, episode 15

airs on May 14th, so that's a week apart. This

is episode 16 airs on June 18th and then episode

17 airs on June 25th. So that's another month

away. Yeah. It's like they almost do like five,

six episodes and then they do like a two, three

week break. This is why I'm behind. I'm hoping

that for season two, it's less of this and it's

more of like a weekly show. Because I think overall,

at least from what I've seen, and again, I've

seen up to episode 11 so far, the writing is

great. The voice acting is great. Just has minor

issues with the animation, but overall. I think

it's a it's a great series Yep agreed definitely

agree yes um and then of course and I don't mind

people giving us like like MSN guide or whatever

and then TFW reports on it, but we have another

Little story here transformers prime upcoming

episodes info number 16 operation breakdown and

17 crisscross And it's just a little mini -synopsis

for Operation Breakdown. The Autobots save Breakdown,

who has been taken by Silas and his agents. And

then in crisscross, Arachnid plots her revenge

against RC and Jack in negotiating with Silas.

So basically... The Decepticons or the Autobots

or whoever is gonna be working with mech at some

point And that's the only stupid thing in this

entire series that I don't like I like I like

the human villains and all that stuff with with

Clancy Brown voicing Silas and all that but I

don't like the name of the damn organism I'm

sorry mech just sounds weird to me. It always

has since I first heard about it I Don't know

Sam for Don't know if it stands for anything.

I'm not if it does. I'm not really sure I I don't

remember off top my head Wikipedia shows it as

an acronym, but doesn't I don't yeah, it's probably

like military incursion Whatever. I don't know

It's something to do with the military um And

again, I I don't mind these little sneak peeks

and stuff a little mini synopsis is but Again

like promoting the series is great getting it

out there making sure people know about it is

fine But do it in less spoiler if it type of

stuff I mean granted these two little synopsis

aren't really that spoiler ish, but it's one

of those things where I don't know I just I'm

not really into these types of news items anymore.

It's kind of like turning into, oh, Dark of the

Moon is filming in Washington. Oh, Dark of the

Moon is filming in California. Nobody gives a

shit. What's gonna happen when the movie comes

out and then there's nothing? Should be this

big vacuum like there was at the end of the second

movie And there's gonna be nothing for months

Well, you know why that's gonna be is because

the dark of the moon toy line is gonna take over

the next two years like revenge of the fallen

did And then they're gonna go on clearance just

like they are right now. Yeah You can get the

this love a bunch of movie toys here locally

and You can get the the big ultimate bumblebee

I think at my local Meijer, they have them marked

down to 20 bucks. Wow. And some of the combiner,

I can't remember what those figure sets were

called, where you have the one main robot who

forms the main body, and then you have... Oh,

the power core combiners, yeah. Yeah, those are

marked down to five bucks here. Wow. They're

still regular priced here, but nobody buys them.

That was at Meyer, by the way, so you might want

to check Meyer. Wow. Yes. Is that it, I believe?

Yes, I think so. So I guess we'll come right

back after this. Is there anything that you'd

like to plug before you go Jesse or um I'm trying

to get the tf wire website back online. I Don't

know my plans are for that yet Just a second

you caught me with something That's something

being a pretzel by the way I am trying to bring

back the TF4 website. I don't know what it's

going to be or turn into. I had this plan back

in the fall of doing something and then school

got in the way because I started my master's

program and then work started to get more hectic.

So now that my first year of my master's program

is done I am doing a summer class, so that's

going to take up some of my time, too. And I

am coaching a girls softball team, so that's

taking up some of my time. But I'm trying to

find some time here to do something with the

website. So that's a little plug. Owen, you can

follow me on Twitter, matrix underscore prime.

Definitely awesome. Yeah, very awesome to have

you on the show. And anytime you feel like coming

back. In talking stuff, we would be more than

willing to Have yawn outside of this week in

geek. This is the only other podcast if everyone

has to do Nobody likes me. It's fine bastards

They're intimidated I'm okay with it. It's fine.

All right, so I guess we'll be back with the

transformers prime discussion And we're back

with the final part of today's episode, which

is the Transformers Prime discussion. Yes. On

SickMind. Dun dun dun. Yes. Yes. Very, very awesome

episode. Very unique episode. With the Autobots

basically having to go on the offensive. I think

it's, is it psionic or cybotic or something or

other, psionic plague or whatever it is? It's,

yeah, psionic plague. Psionic, I knew it was

psionic, psionic, whatever. Yeah, psionic plague.

Basically, just to quickly synopsize the episode,

you've got Ratchet finding out that the Decepticon

ship is... unshielded and they can attack it

but also on the same frequency is an Autobot

distress signal and the Autobot distress signal

is from a plague ship and Ratchet and Optimus

go there Optimus gets infected Optimus is going

to turn to gunmetal gray blah blah blah if a

cure is not found RC and bubble be go to the

nemesis Which I'm not actually even sure if they've

called it the nemesis in the show yet I know

everyone else is calling it the nemesis And they

look for our RC searches for the the information

can't find it all of a sudden bubble be start

because he's super excited because They find

the on life support Megatron And the only way

to get the information to save Optimus is for

someone to travel into Megatron's mind. So they

use the scout that can't talk. And then once

he's cortical, psychic, patched into Megatron,

we see all these... we see Kaon. for once in

animation, which is very cool. I mean, yeah,

we saw it in War for Cybertron and stuff, but

still, that doesn't really count. Which is very

cool. And then you've got Bumblebee thinking

that the figments of Megatron's imagination are

real. I don't underst... Okay, so the Autobots

understand Bumblebee's beeps and boops. Raph

understands... bumblebees beeps and boobs so

i guess it's only logical that megatron will

understand the scout as well i guess yeah i can

kind of see that but well i mean he does that's

what i'm saying they they have a conversation

with with bumblebee doing his beeps and megatron

talking back to him so uh... turns out that uh...

bumblebee basically goes badass and says you

know Optimus is dying and you don't want that,

do you? You want to be able to kill him yourself.

You know, you want that pleasure for yourself

or whatever. And I don't know how Megatron's

gotten this throughout all these, you know, morse

code bits, but... You know, it's one of those

things where Bumblebee just shoves it right back

in his face and says, look, you know, let's,

you know, give me the cure and we'll figure out

a way to get you sentient again or whatever else.

Well... Of course they're watching the Autobots

are watching Ratchet has the code and he's like

RC unplug him now and So RC unplugs him Unplugs

Bumblebee for Megatron and he's like Megatron's

like you are watching take me with you And then

he falls yeah, the whole thing I've left out

of this is that The other the the B plot I guess

you could say of this is Starscream and knockout

plotting to Basically take Megatron off life

support, but they have to show Soundwave that

Megatron is it would be the best logical thing

to take Megatron off life support Soundwave won't

do it. Yep Loyal to the end. Yep So at the end

of it, we've basically got Bumblebee coming out

of the thing, we've got Optimus coming back alive,

and Optimus is like, oh no, the heroes should

be my medic bot and my scout, and they all start

cheering them. And then... The suspense begins

which I immediately as soon as I knew RC was

unplugging mobile be I already knew what was

coming Yeah, I saw it coming a mile away It wasn't

suspenseful at all, but at the very end we travel

into bum He's mine and it's Megatron saying I'm

out. Oh, no wait. I'm in And I like Megatron's

lines in this despite the fact that he's almost

Galvatronic and yes, I say Galvatronic in Because

he's locked inside himself destroying Optimus

and everybody else numerous times mm -hmm and

Between him and Starscream. I mean Megatron had

good lines to Megatron's like if this is my subconscious.

What are you doing in my head? What are you doing

in my mind? But then, uh, Starscream also has

some good lines too, but he sounds too much like

Wheely. An inglorious fate that he should remain

in his vegetable state. I didn't even notice

that. Yes. And then, and then he's, you know,

conspiring with Knockout. You scratch my back,

I scratch yours. Will say I haven't really Throughout

this entire series so far. I haven't disliked

Starscream in one single episode. I don't think

he's more of a He's more of a cunning leader

type than a sniveling little buffoon. He's more

of a cunning plotting Maybe a little bit of a

coward in the back of his mind But he's more

diabolical than he's ever been in any incarnation

of Starscream And I think that actually helps

evolve his character whereas he's kind of been

stuck like his original character was great But

then every rendition since then he's kind of

become the sniveling, you know wacky. Yeah, it's

just kind of got annoying past the original the

original was great, but None of them have done

it well since then and I think this is the first

actual Good run of Starscream we've gotten since

G1. Oh, yeah, I would so agree I mean it was

nice seeing him as Waspinator in Beast Wars,

but Animated was good, but animated was He ended

up too kind of too kind of cartoony towards the

end. It was just kind of getting lame. Yeah with

him Yeah. But this Starscream, I absolutely love

this Starscream. I would love us to get an interview

with Steven Blum. Oh my god, to get promos from

Transformers Prime Starscream, that would be

so awesome. That would be badass. Plus he's Cobra

Commander. And he's Wolverine from Superhero

Squad as well. So I mean, you've got the best

of both worlds, or should I say multiple worlds.

Yes. Yes. Was there anything in this episode

you didn't particularly care for? Uh... I actually

liked the episode pretty well. Yeah, this was...

I like it when they do stuff like this. Like,

Speed Metal was kinda meh for me. Like, I liked

it, but it wasn't like, oh my god, I have to

watch this episode multiple times. This one,

Sick Mind, I could watch this. at least three

or four different times over like a week's time

or something. It's that good. And I love the

direction that the writing's going. I love the

fact that, yes, Megatron's been out for, you

know, what is it, nine, he's coming back in episode

14, so nine episodes he's been out since Heart

of, or not Heart of Darkness, Jesus Christ, Darkness

Rising. So, I mean, bringing him back nine episodes

in, or nine additional episodes in, I like that.

I mean, it gave everybody else time to evolve

and develop before they had Megatron come back

in with a swinging fist. They've gotten the development

out of the way. Now they can go straight to the

action again. Exactly. And I cannot wait for

it. They also, there's some Transformers references

before we finish this. One Shall Stand, One Shall

Fall came up for the second time. Yeah. And Megatron

asks himself whether or not he still functions.

Yeah, that was awesome. During that scene when

the fake Optimus says one shall stand, one shall

fall, I was honestly hoping that Megatron would

say, I will crush you with my bare hands. That

would have been badass. I know! I'll rip out

your optics! Yes, that would have been great,

but it didn't happen. I know maybe later. Maybe

later. Yeah, maybe later the first showdown between

Megatron and optimus illusion is Reminiscent

of the title sequence. Yeah, it is actually from

the title sequence. I know I love that yeah And

I was wondering how they were gonna use the footage

from the title sequence Because, like, the footage

from the title sequence is Cybertronian stuff.

Well, when it comes to the Decepticon stuff,

as far as I've noticed out of the title sequences,

it's on Cybertron, so I was wondering how they

were going to use that, and I don't mind them

using it the way that they did. I thought that

they will... I'm thinking eventually that we

will get the backstory. We will get some sort

of five -minute flashback or whatever. You know

finding out the falling out But I'm not sure

if they're gonna do that or not seeing as how

we already have the game and we already have

the book and All that other stuff, so I'm not

sure what they're gonna do with it, but I mean

I like the fact that they're taking scenes from

the title sequence and putting them into The

episodes that's yes, it does help give contact.

Oh, yeah very much so But anything else I think

that's it. Can't wait for next week's or this

week's or whenever we get supposed to be the

next episode comes out. I agree. And we will

close out this episode with our outro, which

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