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to All Things Transformers, version 2 .0. I'm

your host, Steve Megatron Phillips, and joining

me as always is... TFG1 Mike, hello. Hello, and...

Optimus Solo, good day. Good day. What are you

guys up to? Well, not a lot. Um, editing. Yeah.

Editing shows. Yeah, exactly. I spent... This

past week, I just got back into the editing game.

I spent four and a half hours on an hour and

44 minute episode. Sounds like me at the beginning.

Like I said, but yes, editing and recording and

doing all things related to top 100 epicness.

Yes. Top 100 awesome. Yep. Yes. Other than that,

I haven't been doing a whole lot as far as the

Internet world goes. Nope. As far as me, I've

been doing various voice projects, of course.

Then we finally got the finalized script for

the fan video of Dark Glass, which they retooled

some of the lines. Yes, there's an unforeseen

thing that is not included. which only I and

the production crew know about. Nice. So, muahahaha.

But yes. No bot actually comes back to life.

Who? Nothing, nevermind. No. Fool. It still has

to stay in continuity. This is not Teen Titans.

Yes. Exactly. It has to fit in continuity, so

therefore it must sync up with... previous G1

and Beast Wars timeline information, unlike the

IDW, which technically did not. Other than that,

then I got an invite on Voices .com to possibly

do a voice program, so I auditioned for it. I

probably didn't get it, but nevertheless, I was

pumped that I at least got the opportunity. Excellent.

Other than that, just waiting for my new microphone

to show up. I should have gotten the trial of

Amazon Prime because now I'm like biting, chomping

the bit here, waiting for this damn thing to

arrive that I could have had last weekend. It

will come. Yes, but I guess if nobody has anything

else... We will jump into the TF Prime news.

Er, not TF Prime, but just regular Transformers

news. Yes, I've lost my mind for the week. Save

him, Mike. Alright, and welcome back to all things

Transformers after that little quick break in

there. Starting off the week we ha - the Transformers

Collectors Club and BotCon news. Yes, yes we

do. Take it away, Mike. The Transformers Collectors

Club animated transtech cheetoir packaging has

been revealed. Honestly, I don't think... I mean,

the toy looks great, but it just doesn't... It

doesn't transition well from Derek J. Wyatt's

design to what the toy is. At least in my opinion

it doesn't. I do like the fact that they're doing

this transtech Cheetor because apparently, I

didn't know this, but apparently Blur and Animated

was originally from The transtek cheetor designs

when transtek was still an idea for hasbro way

back whenever like after after beast machines

So it's kind of come full circle at first It

was a cheetor design and then they molded it

into blur and made blur out of it for animated

and now they're making a animated transtek cheetor,

but It just I don't know. It just doesn't like

I'm not super stoked to get the toy version Yeah,

I like my cheetah to be a animal No, I mean I

like this. I mean I like the robot mode I like

the design, but I just I prefer the The actual

design that Derek had done I will get you guys

a link to that here in one second I just you

know I just feel that the toy doesn't represent

His his design. It just doesn't. I mean, the

robot mode is what I'm specifically talking about.

It just... The head. I don't think the toy head

really... And I know that there's only so much

engineering they can put into a toy, but I mean,

seriously, it just doesn't... If you look at

that image of Cheetor's head from Derek's design

compared to the actual... toy head on on the

packaging it just to me it just doesn't well

I think it looks identical to the one that's

not as close up so maybe once you actually see

the toy close -up the head will match the close

-up of Derek's image but I think that the far

away image of Derek's looks exact same as the

package yeah it does I mean I'm I'm talking about

the close -up though yeah but I mean it's hard

to say on a package what the close -up would

actually be like I mean yeah just took that one

picture so I mean kind of like a wait -and -see

thing But it's cool on the name on the box, they

actually use the Beast Wars font. Oh yeah, they

do. Yeah. So, but yeah, that's, I mean, I'm not

super stoked about it, but it is something cool

to at least see Beast Wars characters revisited

in some way. Yeah, it's something extra, it's

something, you know, good for the fans, so. True.

And the other piece of BotCon news was the prequel

comic. Transformers Collectors Club Moving Violations

BotCon Prequel. Transformers Collectors Club

Magazine has posted up the bonus two -page comic

starring animated trans tech Cheetor packed with

cameos from Rosanna to Beast Wars Neo Stampy

and also featuring animated verse versions of

Dark, Crumple Zone and Ransack from Transformers

Cybertron. Two -page comic showcases the animated

universe. Cheetor will lead into the BotCon 2011

comic. Have fun spotting Easter eggs. There's

plenty of character homages to be enjoyed I Looked

at this. I'm actually gonna have to go back to

my Twitter and find the post that Derek sent

to me Just I don't know it just seems like to

me that I'm not a big comic fan anyways But it's

like let's just throw all these different things

in from these different things Different universes

so we can make a bunch of toys and I don't know

Well, well, that's true. I mean that's that's

the point that they're they're trying to Connect

they're trying to connect the the entire Transformers

universe Here's a link to where the actual two

pages of comic are I think besides transtech

cheetor being in this comic the best thing about

this is an animated version of depth charge I

just, I don't know. It's not something that I'll

ever be. I'm just not a comic person, I guess.

Well, and they do have an animated version of

Rattrap in there at one point. Nice. Yup. You

can find him with his little buck teeth and everything.

Despite the fact that I haven't been a part of

the Collector's Club in some time, it's still

pretty interesting to see. It's cool for fan

wanking and everything else, but I haven't gotten

into Transformers since certain things of it,

since the Beast Wars BotCon. This would probably

be the only one that I'd be halfway interested

in, especially if they made that Depth Charge

figure from Animated. Oh, there's Rattrap on

the first page. That's interesting. I don't mind

them not really updating, because obviously Transformers

Animated is over, and they've moved on to Prime

and all that, but since this year's BotCon stuff

is animated -themed, I don't mind that they're

doing all this, you know, putting stuff into

animated design because I just, I think it's

great. I mean, like Steve said, the depth charge

looks awesome. You know, Cheetor is an homage

to the old, what would have been transtack Cheetor.

I would love to see it. I know we'll never get

this. I would love to see animation with Ian's

voice coming out of that. that design of Cheetor,

but I know we won't ever get that. I don't know.

I'm just really excited for it for this year

because it's not... Because the whole thing with

animated, you know, after it ended, everyone,

and most people still are now, they're like,

oh, season four, season four, season four, blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like... Sorry,

we've moved on. Season 4's not happening anytime

soon. It's not happening in animation, specifically.

It may happen like stuff here where comics are

and stuff, but it's not gonna be animated anymore.

Hasbro has moved on. But at the same time, I'm

glad that there's a resurgence of animated and

Hasbro is acknowledging that. BotCon is acknowledging

that, obviously, with their choice of... you

know using animated as the theme this year so

I mean for us fans that are fans of animated

you know it's all good oh yeah for you for you

fans of animated well you'll you'll be watching

animated and sending in voicemails to transformation

animation coming this June so just sit down shut

up and relax until later It does get better in

the third season, which is why everybody wanted

a fourth. Jumping back to the Transformers news,

we have the actual release information from TV

shows on DVD of Beast Wars Transformers Shout

Factory Season 1 DVDs. They have the date, the

cost, and a little bit of the extra information.

basically have taken information from the Amazon

.com pre -order list saying that it's going to

come out June 14th. On Amazon .com, it says that

it will be $20 .99, which who knows one way or

the other how much it'll be. It'll probably end

up being 30 bucks by the end of it unless you

probably pre -order it now, which I'm sure that's

why it says the price guarantee on there and

everything. It is a four disc set, just like

the original. It will be the entire first season,

which actually that's pretty damn cheap for the

first season because when season one for Rhino

came out, it was like 50. You were lucky if you

could get it for like 30 something on eBay. You're

lucky now if you can get it under $100 for the

Rhino set. I should sell it But um because then

that would fund my entire shelf factory version

but um The box art and final details are not

available right now according to Brian Ward He

has done an interview with the producer of the

show Christopher brow and he is continuing to

look for more extras between toy commercials

various extracted parts from the series such

as the Megatron Optimus putting the spark back

thing which there is no high quality one of so

they may not put it on the discs I've been running

around personally trying to find stuff for it

I don't know if it's going to be in the first

season or if it's you know whatever but But he's

talking with a lot of fans trying to get as much

content as we can into these DVDs which is definitely

awesome. Yeah, I think it's great how much he

interacts with the fans and tries to get with

it because he's a fan too of most of the stuff

he does so he kind of understands where we're

coming from and I like that he reaches out to

people. And I know specifically he was writing

the descriptions for the episodes for the DVDs

the other day. because both Mike and I commented.

Yeah, he tweeted about it. Don't follow the way

of Rhino. And he says, what Rhino? He says, are

Rhinos bad? Because he hadn't read them. So I

mean, you know, and I responded to him. I said,

they're not bad, but they're not the best thing

ever. They're more like, you know, two or three

sentences. And it just gives you a general, it

just, I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not looking

for a full plot synopsis on a DVD booklet. Obviously,

that would ruin watching the show, obviously,

but it's like, you know, Cheetor and Optimus

have to go to Megatron to make a deal with Ba

to have this happen. That's basically what the

general gist of the Rhino Ones are. But it gives

you too much information instead of trying to

hook, line, and sinker you to grabbing... grabbing

your attention to watch that episode. I mean,

the Beast Machines ones, even though they were,

even though Rhino kinda just said, fuck it, we'll

just put it on the actual DVD box itself. I mean,

those are even, they're like one, like maybe

a sentence and a half sentence, but at least

those are, you know, at least those leave you

wanting more. Yeah. It's kind of, you need a

happy medium. You want more than what your TV

guide would have given you as a description,

but you want not the entire detail of the end

show. Exactly. And kind of moving right along,

I think, since we've said TV descriptions into

the episode titles for Transformers Prime, they've

given us the next three. I meant to look at my

DVR to see if I had more of a description for

episode 11 or 12 yet. But at least we can give

you the names. Episode 11, Speed Metal. Episode

12, Predatory. And episode 13, Sick Mind for

Transformers Prime. Leaves a lot for the imagination.

I'm guessing we'll see some new characters in

at least one or two of those since they've basically

introduced new characters in the last, what,

two out of the last three. But yeah, that's kind

of all they give us so far. But what do you guys

think of those titles? I think Predatory is one

that has me interested. I think Predatory probably

has Steve speculating. Predacons! But see, that's

the thing though, that's the problem with Transformers

Prime. And I'm not saying that it's a bad thing,

but everybody was like, like when everyone saw

Convoy. Like, ooh, Convoy! Optimus Prime's Japanese

name is also a fucking word that means a convoy

of vehicles, you dumb fucks. But predatory could

mean that there's somebody hunting somebody else.

I get that. Yeah. And that's probably what it

is. But I mean, just because we are Transformers

fans and because we are suckers for homages and

other stuff and seeing other stuff come in, I

mean... Look at it, again, going back to animated,

Predacons Rising. I mean, Black Arachnoid was

a character in animated regardless, but you know,

so. Waspinator and some of the Maximals. Yep.

So, at least, you know, it's just kind of a fun

thing for me to look forward a couple weeks every

time to see if I can find a new character that's

going to show up or this or that. I just forgot

to look at the DVR yesterday to see if I can

go that far ahead yet. Well, episode 11. Think

it may have someone along the lines of blur or

jazz Yeah, I think it's gonna be jazz actually

I've heard rumors that that jazz our burden plays

jazz Yeah, we've already had his as far as like

rumors as far as who's voicing him So it would

make sense that he's gonna come up at some point

and just FYI Originally they gave out a whole

bunch of voices and characters that we're gonna

be showing up and we've already got all those

with yesterday's episode. So now it is kind of

more of a mystery type thing as far as who we're

going to get because all the ones that they originally

had suggested we've gotten now. Well, at least

they're not breaking their word. Yeah. Which

is good because I had a character space for a

couple of them on the BTBA page for a long time

and I was like, are we ever going to get a picture

of these guys? But I do have to add those guys

to it. And the other thing about Transformers

Prime news was as far as the Transformers Prime

soundtrack, which is confirmed to be coming soon,

it's basically Brian Tyler got this news out

because of his webpage, a small banner that says

something about Transformers Prime original soundtrack

coming soon. That's basically all we know. So

it leaves a lot of speculation, but it just shows

you again how much stock Hasbro is putting into

this show that they're looking to do this. So

hopefully it'll be something that we can enjoy,

but who knows what it's going to consist of.

Yes. Now with them coming out with a original

soundtrack for TF Prime, god damn it, where's

the Beast Wars and Beast Machines ones? Hold

your horses, you know. Did weren't you the one

that even pointed Brian Ward in the right direction

of those people for Beast Wars and Beast Machines?

Yes. So calm it down. Never now. Oh, God damn

it. So right now, as it stands for the U .S.

cartoon continuity, we have a well, I mean, I

mean, I guess we have G1 soundtrack, obviously,

with TFTM. We've got We've got the animated score,

which came out a couple years ago by Sebastian

Evans, the second, and now we've got the Transformers

Prime soundtrack coming out eventually. So hopefully

there's no, what is it, no Nickelback in it.

I'm just kidding. Hey, hey, hey. I'm just kidding.

So that's all the news we had for Transformers

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into the Transformers Prime review of the week

with the latest in the two new episodes of Transformers

Prime since we missed last week gee thanks Steve

Megatron Now back to all things Transformers.

Welcome back to all things transformers with

the TF prime discussion And yes, we missed last

week. So we're going to have to backtrack back

to Episode 9 which is convoy Yes, it's an interesting

episode Yes, it was very interesting episode.

It was quite different from what you would normally

expect from a transformer show considering everybody

thought We didn't per se think that because of

the description. Yeah, a lot of people were like,

oh, it's gonna be a convoy Japanese tie -in Mm

-hmm, right But I was glad to see that they had

humans and they weren't idiotic like TF animated

Well, and again, I mean, you know, we'll get

into the the TFA humans, you know down the line

in another podcast but i mean you know as i said

earlier in the news segment two completely different

styles and two completely different shows i mean

the whole point of transformers prime is to combine

every piece of continuity including movie verse

so i think that's where like you get eight people

like agent fowler who is a more sane realistic

version of of sims You know, you get people like

this villain, Silas or Stylas or whatever the

fuck his name is. Silas, yeah. Silas. You know,

you get people like that who are a genuine legitimate

threat. You know, I've already forgot who did

the voice of Silas. We just said it all fair.

Let's keep around. Lex Luthor. That's right.

Wear Superman when you need him. It was just,

I don't know, for me it was just a completely

unexpected thing. I haven't been keeping up with

any of the internet rumors or anything like that.

I've just been trying to watch it on my own and

do that so I basically can form my own opinions.

And I was just like, wow, this is something that

they haven't done. And it's kind of just a completely

different take on things that I wasn't ready

for, but it was fine. Right. I mean, you know,

and the thing of it is I don't, I mean, I don't

keep up much with the internet rumors. You know,

I... I see the news items, because obviously

I follow TFW2005 on Twitter, but I see the news

items of, oh, Transformers Prime, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah, or you see a promo or something,

which is fine, but as far as rumors and all that,

I didn't even know until I watched it that Clancy

Brown was going to be voicing the lead villain

in this episode. I was shocked, just like some

other people were. What would have been awesome

is if he looked like Lex Luthor. He kind of did

a little bit. The jaw was a little bit more square,

but... Yeah. He did have a little bit of that

look, and it was just kind of... He also had

a tiny bit of a resemblance between... To the...

Before the mask gets put on, Destro character

from G .I. Joe Renegades almost a little bit.

I don't know, it's just an interesting human

element. We've never ... I shouldn't say never,

but it seems like in Transformers, whenever the

humans are involved, it's always kids or their

dads or stuff like that. I guess we had the wikis

on different generations and whatnot. We haven't

had a ton of just downright villainous humans

besides a few crazy like doctor scientist type

guys. I was gonna say you cannot forget Dr. Archieville.

No, I know I know we had the crazy like technological

guys and like scientists that are inventor type

guys, but we haven't had just outright like Dictators

just like yeah, just like straight -up evil,

you know henchman henchman but just like i don't

know how to describe this guy but it just bring

the whole other element and i'm interested to

see what they do with this hopefully they do

something with it because if they don't then

this is going to be remembered as one of the

stupid like the more pointless episodes of the

entire run but i'm and it's probably safe to

say that they're going to do something with this

before steve gives his thoughts i just had something

They're effectively come by I know they're not

intentionally doing this but since you mentioned

about you know, how how Silas is in this episode

Reminds me of Cadmus from Justice League and

he reminds me of a more competent Wade Eiling

Wade Eiling was one of the generals Working for

Cadmus over there and just sleep. Anyway, the

other thing I want to say real quick is Don't

particularly like the name of the the organization

I Was expecting like some sort of cheesy line

saying we're Mac and we have tack or you know,

whatever I I wanted them to be venom. Oh Ha!

That would never work. That would've been awesome.

That would be awesome, but that would never work.

And the sad thing is the first thing that popped

into my head is I'm like, why does Kevin want

symbiote suits? And then I realize, I'm like,

oh, okay, Miles Mayhem, okay, I got this. It's

a subgroup of Cobra. Yes. I got it, I got it.

Let's tie everything together. I should've called

him Fang. Let's just get 80s goodness together.

Let's bring a G .I. Joe Transformers. Let's make

it all one. Alright, Steve, what are your thoughts

on Convoy? Actually, overall, I was pretty pleased

with it. I mean, even with the human element,

I thought, despite having the humans in it, I

thought it was going to be a lot weaker than

what it was. But it was a pretty catch -on episode.

I mean, you had... appearances from Starscream

and the Veikons, you had Prime and the other

Autobots, you had Fowler. So this is basically

like Fowler's nemesis in the mech organization.

And the fact that they had Clancy Brown, who

is one of the most iconic evil voices, just human

voices. Unlike I'm not even gonna go into like

the Joker because he's some kind of some other

kind of evil but Just for you know your regular

highly intelligent rich, you know leader of an

organization evil Clancy Brown seems to fit this

role really well considering he also was a Super

villain in Justice League as Lex Luthor opposing

another red and blue alien Yes, and also he and

we we we would be remiss and and I think the

majority of our listeners are would lamb based

us in comments He was also the Kurgan or however

the hell you say that in Highlander So the only

problem I had with this episode was how easy

Silas gave up there at towards the end I disagree.

I mean I could see where you would but It was

like it would know what I what I mean is they

they get into the thing and they're like, oh

there's kids here retreat Basically, I mean there

was So what if there was kids in there? It was

like the one guy like reported back to Silas

like oh, there's kids here And then he's like,

oh, let's retreat. I Didn't quite get why that

caused them to retreat at that point Well, they

did he did shoot a missile at the damn train

and said I'm just gonna kill the train. If nobody's

gonna have the tech, no one will. If Optimus

Prime hadn't pulled a Tobey Maguire from Spider

-Man 2... My other problem was how in the hell

did Optimus Prime catch up to that train? He's

got super jet mode. He was just like out for

a while. The train is going very fast. And then

he turns back into a semi. And I don't care.

I've never seen a semi that travels fast enough

to catch up to a speedy -way train. I don't know.

I mean, I was being a little bit nitpicky. Overall,

I like the episode. It just seemed like there

was a few things that were done just to be convenient

there at the end. And I do like the... Sorry

to cut you off, I think like the scene where

they're going into Prime's trailer and they think

that they're gonna get the device and all of

a sudden RC comes rolling out. Yeah, that was

cool. See, I think it could have, like RC could

have been used somewhere else and I so wish that,

and I don't know if they're gonna do this in

future episodes. I was expecting Roller, dammit!

I really was! Yeah, that would have been funny

too. No, I thought most of the stuff was was

pretty good Like I said, there's a couple of

nitpicky things that I was like really but other

than that I had liked this You know unique human

element that we've never really had in a Transformers

cartoon that I am aware of so and the other thing

about this human villain element is At the end

of the episode. I mean optimus he's like shocked.

Yeah, cuz because cuz you know The Autobots hit

the planet and they find these three really really

good kids and they're just focusing on the Decepticons.

Of course like the first eight episodes before

this the majority of it was Decepticon attacks

but you know all of a sudden Optimus is like

oh my god we have to watch out for the human

element now because there are not so good humans

in the world. Well duh Optimus. Well I guess

he just never thought they were a threat before

but he was a little naive. Yeah, they're like

peon humans who cares about them. Now they're

like, oh, maybe they can do some shit. So I will

say that it's one of the things I don't like

about this episode is that a couple of good hits

on Optimus and he's down for a little while.

I mean, I get like not like like having episodes

not to use him like like say Optimus is off in

the Arctic somewhere like we had that an episode

or say he's back at base doing something with

red you know uh... i but i don't like how they'll

put them in a battle scene and all all reiterate

this when it's the next episode they put them

in a battle scene he gets the shit kicked out

of them and he's knocked out for like i don't

know three or four minutes i just i don't like

that it i mean i get that you know obviously

he can't be all big and bad and just be invincible

I don't like how, so far, how the last couple

of episodes of Gone were, people have just hit

him like once or twice and it's like, oh my god,

he's gonna die! No! I don't feel quite the same,

I feel like it's more of a realistic thing as

far as if he's caught at the right spot or if

he's caught off guard or if it's the right type

of hit that he'll go down just like anybody should.

You know, I don't want him to be invincible,

I want him to... to be realistic. It seems like

they're doing it a lot, but it doesn't bother

me too much yet. Definitely agree. But yeah,

I think just overall it was a decent episode.

I liked it. Alrighty. Well, we'll move on to

the next episode in Deus Ex Machina. The fun

one to say, episode 10. Yes, and if you say it

too fast, you won't say it right. Or you just

probably won't say it right anyway. Or that.

Just call it episode 10, god damn it. Deus ex

machina. This one was definitely interesting.

We have the whole idea of a energon harvester

that can basically suck energon out of the world

and out of... Autobots or Decepticons and The

race to get it between the you know the Autobots

and the Decepticons and the introduction of knockout

and breakdown Mike what'd you think about this

one? Um, I didn't even know who the one guy was

because I didn't hear is like I heard his name

But I'm like who the hell is knockout Have we,

I mean, this isn't, or obviously this isn't,

this is a brand new character, right? As far

as I know. Um, I thought that was a character

that showed up, um, no, I think it might be a

new one actually. For some reason Knockout sounds

familiar to me, but I have no idea why. Knockout

sounds familiar, but I don't think we've ever

had a character by that name. Okay What did you

guys think of just the actual design and the

overall of both knockout and breakdown? I mean,

did you like them? I wonder how would you think

of them? I Definitely, I think I liked them.

All right. I mean they just they didn't seem

to be any kind of annoying looking character

or anything they just they looked pretty strong

and Don't know just overall they they seem fine.

I mean just Yeah, I mean they definitely focused

more you know on What was a breakdown? Was that

the one that they they focused more on him than

on knockouts? He got a little bit more character

development, and I kind of like his design look

a little bit better and his his vehicle mode

was kind of cool compared to I don't know, I

kind of like the interaction between them and

Kevin Michael Richardson's character, which my

mind just went completely blank. Yeah, bulkhead.

I like the interaction there. To me, though,

it's still the best character design we've seen

as far as not the main characters, just the ones

that have been introduced since the first episode

has been Wheeljack, and I'm still going to be

looking for something to beat that. These two

were definitely serviceable, and I hope they

stick around. I think Wheeljack and Skyquake

are my two biggest likes for non -regular show

characters so far. Breakdown, I was expecting

a little bit more on the vehicle mode, not just

this dopey -looking Jeep thing. What I don't

like is how they're focused. I guess I like it,

but at the same time, I don't like it. With Bulkhead,

we've had two episodes where he knows all the

history. Not all the history, but it's like Wheeljack,

part of the Wreckers, all that, and now break

down, oh, we have history, blah, blah, blah,

blah. Which lends me to believe and I don't know

I've heard rumors online a few times But I'm

not sure which episodes they were talking about

But people have put out the notion that they're

not showing some of the episodes in the order

that they were meant to be shown Mm -hmm And

I don't know if that's true or not, but we have

been getting a lot of bulkhead lately and it's

like RC is not even a character Yeah, like I

understand that you can't do any history with

bumblebee. He can't know the history First of

all, he can't tell us because he can't freaking

talk. Yeah, he can't talk yet second Yeah, and

second of all, he's too young to have a history

or to know of the history But it would be it

seems like you know Starscream and and bulkhead

know everything about everything Yeah, and and

nobody else does because even Bulkhead and Optimus

Prime were almost like two separate histories.

And I don't know, it'd be nice to see some history

from maybe like a Ratchet or from RC or something

like that. And the other thing that really just

pisses me off is that, you know, I don't know

if Mr. Welker is off doing something else right

now during this time that Prime is on, but you

effectively introduced Megatron in this five

-parter. He gets somewhat destroyed mangled at

the end of that and then you haven't had him

in the last five episodes and i like you like

you know he is around though because frank welker

voice the decepticon trooper in the wheeljack

episode And that's fine. You know, that's fine.

I mean, if Frank is doing other stuff with Transformers

Prime, but I'm saying Frank as Megatron, I don't

understand. Is it something with the voice actor

that he's not available to do that? Or is it

something with the story where they don't want

to bring back Megatron and they want to focus

on Starscreams? I think it's the story. I don't

think he has anything. I think Frank Walker is

around because, like I said, he did some of the

other voices. But to me, I actually prefer this

because I would have... been put off if Megatron

came back immediately. And I like the fact that

he's actually out of commission a little, but

they still bring him into the story. They're

still talking about him. Starscream's still finding

ways not to quite bring him back yet. And it's

developing Starscream a ton. And for once in

like the entire history of Transformers, we have

Starscream actually getting to be the leader

for more than a minute. And I kind of like that.

It's gonna be epic when Megatron does come back

and I think that this time without him makes

that just You know, it's gonna build it up more

and more and more and I kind of I kind of like

where they're going with that I Can agree with

that? I mean as long as he's gonna you know He

is gonna come back and I think he's gonna become

come back Bad as hell and maybe it's gonna be

something that they're planning maybe for the

end of season 1 To give a cliffhanger into season

2 and to leave us all you know waiting for that

I don't know if he's going to sit out all of

season one or not, but I could see that being

some type of momentous end to season one if they

wanted to do it that way. Otherwise it would

have been just like we've seen in every other

thing where Megatron goes down and then immediately

comes back and Starscream loses control immediately.

I agree with you. I do like that Starscream's

getting... character development in this is a

very different star scream than he starts from

we've had before or any was there we've had before

but we're waiting for steve to laugh at the joke

but apparently not uh... waspinator scream anyway

uh... you know i agree with you a little bit

that he does need character development but i

mean the whole big thing of transformers prime

was first announced all Peter Cullen Frank Welker

working together for the first time since g1

as Optimus and Megatron and then you take Megatron

out for half of the season No, that's all right.

I understand what you're saying, but we'll get

it. We'll get it eventually be patient There's

52 episodes so far You know that have been slated

to happen. So that's true. I don't know We wouldn't

want it whereas every single episode where it

would just be an optimist and Megatron because

oh yeah No, I I'm in full agreement. I just think

that I mean something like other than you know

other than like Little moans and groans or whatever

from from Megatron's body. I think there should

be like something where he wakes up says something

and Starscream standing right there and he just

punches him in the face and knocks him back out

or something. Or what would be a great idea is

if during this time, because I love the fact

that they're still showing his body and they're

still showing that he's part of the story, but

I think what would be a great idea is while he's

out to give us that Colin Welker effect, show

us some flashbacks. Oh yeah, that would be awesome.

Show us something from Cybertron. You know go

into the history because they've talked about

the whole fact that prime and Megatron know each

other and obviously You know, we know that from

reading the book and from playing the video game

or whatever But but like show some of that, you

know instead of focusing on all bulkheads friends

here Give us some prime and Megatron history

and let's hear some Welker calling in flashbacks

That definitely would be cool if they're gonna

keep them out for most of this first season.

I would love that. Yeah As far as this episode,

my only other complaint is I put a link to a

picture I twitpicked to you guys in the chat.

I took a screencap of when Optimus got electrified

by Knockout's little lance thing. What I couldn't

stop thinking about when they did that was General

Grievous and I know his guards that had the electric.

I know I this again is like Like I don't mind

the team stepping up But this is the second time

in two episodes That optimus has got a hit to

him that he's out for a good three four minutes,

and he doesn't recover Until after some more

action happens. I don't you know what it did

is like and i i get what you're saying that's

why i almost wish it wouldn't happen in the other

episode because i think i was more fine with

it happening in this episode because you had

it happen to bulkhead too this episode really

portrayed uh knockout or a breakdown as a pretty

badass character even though even though they

somewhat cowered down to starscream obviously

when he's holding this energon harvester at their

face or whatever and threatening to suck their

souls out or whatever but uh... he was you know

they were holding their own out on the uh...

the battlefield with bulkhead optimus prime and

whatnot and that's why i said i really hope they

stick around because it would help to have that

dynamic of starscream and some actual named characters

along with soundwave yeah and i mean the thing

that is is like what the whole you mention the

whole bulkhead thing that they did with him that

wasn't necessarily A lance electric attack from

from knockout that was Starscream trying to suck

the energon out of bulkhead All right. No, no,

I know but I was just saying like in the interaction

with bulkhead earlier and with optimus prime

breakdown just was like he was not quite as badass

as a Skyquake was there for a minute, but Yeah,

yeah breakdowns badassery aside and I'll let

Steve go here in a second. Um it it's like breakdown

is everywhere a breakdown is breakdown i a i

called onto the other day breakdown is the official

mascot of bach on because breakdown has been

used for different times in bach on including

this year with the animated and remolding uh...

animated repaint remolded head of of gf a rodimus

and now he's showing up in transformers prime

so it's like breakdown is everywhere Will say

though before Steve goes that the the only other

thing that I felt like I needed to call like

Some type of protective services on that museum

guard for the way. He was treating Miko He just

like threw her into the freaking room I'm like

really you're gonna do that to like a 10 year

old girl 12 year old girl like I Don't know You

arrested Yeah, that kind of was a little irritating

watching that it's just because I'm like, okay,

dude You should be just calling, you know, her

parents guardian. Whoever you shouldn't be sitting

here detaining your you know being like, okay

What are you really doing in here? Yeah, I mean

it's it's just yeah, I was like, okay, dude,

you can let her go but for some reason when he

was talking even though I know that this wasn't

His real voice and I could tell that it wasn't

but he had inflections that made me sound think

it sounded like At times in James Corlett and

then at other times Will Friedel Mm -hmm More

so like will Friedel. I was getting out of it,

but it's still I knew it was wrong, but I was

like I just I just wonder Yeah, so after I saw

the credits, I was like, okay, I'm wrong and

But it was definitely A different type of voice

than what's been on the show before yeah For

sure, and we definitely have I mean this is one

of the episodes usually we only get like one

or two new voices we had actually three new voices

in this one with Reggie Bannister as that guard

Adam Baldwin as breakdown and and Darren Norris

as knockout so it was introducing a lot of new

voices to us and I you know I kind of knew that

knockout and breakdown were different I kind

of knew who they were from way back when but

I had forgotten So it was kind of nice to hear

those guys. I like Darren Norris Well, and then

when I saw knockout in there and he was just

kind of this calm cool collected character I

was kind of like in a little bit of his voice

I was getting kind of a David Kay feel to it

and I was like I know it's not him I was like

but it sounds like him at parts yeah and it's

not out of his voice range so I was like it could

be but it was that's one of the fun parts about

watching these shows is when they put a new character

out there trying to figure out who the voice

is before you see the credits Yeah, and in that

character like Starscream even asked him he's

like Why aren't you in with a flight mode? He

says I like the the ground he's like I like the

Vehicle mode of the ground and everything and

yeah, he seems kind of like a you know, like

Sunstreaker side swipe type Yeah in terms of

you know, I've got my shiny arm or don't touch

it I thought it was interesting though to to

have some decepticons that weren't Flyers basically

for the first time because you know Megatron

Starscream Soundwave and Skyquake were all and

all the drones are all flyers So to have knockout

and breakdown be these, you know automobiles

was kind of an interesting Change. Oh, yeah,

and it makes a little bit harder to Differentiate

like I mean unless you know how they were introduced

between Autobot and Decepticon. Yep and But overall,

I like their designs and I like their plot elements

in this and the fact that Starscream got the

Energon Harvester despite its very high plot

device and quick demise. This so reminded me

of a G1 episode where you have some type of technological

device or some type of thing that the Decepticons

are trying to steal and like... the whole episode

revolves around. It was like straight out of

G1 story wise. My favorite scene is when the

kids are in the whatever the building museum

and they open the whatever garage door whatever

and it's Soundwave. Oh yeah. I was like Soundwave

you're a badass. That's always cool. I don't

know, that's one thing why I liked this episode.

To me it was like a straight homage to G1 simple

plot device storylines. But at the same time

introducing new characters and developing a few

other things. I've been a fan of the last three

episodes for sure. Yeah, the show definitely

hasn't slowed down in quality. No, and I think

it's just going to keep getting better in quality.

I mean, they're really making a push for this

show to work. And it's not really like a push

where it's forced. It's they're really working

on it. They're not bayformering it up. True.

So I'm looking forward to seeing what we see

with 11, 12, and 13 here. What else are we going

to get? So, jumping out of that discussion, is

there anything you guys are looking forward to

in the near future that we've talked about today

or that you've read about as far as Transformers?

My thing that I'm most interested in is which

characters are going to show up in Prime. Like

we said, we've had the rumors of LeVar Burton

as a... jazz, and stuff like that. So I'm just

interested to see which voices come in, you know,

which characters come in, and, you know, just

where Transformers Prime goes. Really, for me,

the only thing happening in my Transformers world

right now is Transformers Prime. That'll change

come June, but, yes it will. For me, I hope they

don't do this anytime soon, but if they were

ever to bring in Hot Rod or Rodimus, I hope that

they get Judd Nelson to voice him. I don't know

if that will happen or not, but what else? I'm

just really looking forward to BotCon. I know

it's still a few months away. As far as other

stuff, I would love to start getting my hands

on some of the Generations or United, more so

some of the United figures. I think the other

thing, which is probably what Steve is looking

forward to, and I'm also looking forward to,

is what types of bonus materials they come to

decide on for the Beast Wars. Yes, I'm definitely

looking forward to that. More details. Yes, more,

more. Of course, we will eventually have an interview

talking about it in the future. in the future

in the future yes so for now I think that will

do it with the transformers news as well as your

selections of what's coming out so Steve and

the damn show geez what an asshole you're the

one voicing him shut up he has a mind of his

own That's what happens when you don't have caffeine,

you argue with yourself. And then my breaks forth

wall. Yes. And you even say your own name. But

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it's Steve Megatron Phillips saying, take a hike.

Seeds of the future will bury it in your ass.

Is that one in Beast Unleashed? Yeah. I don't

know, was it you that said it or was it Michael

that said it and then you said it as Megatron,

because I don't remember. Michael probably said

it. I probably just repeated. Yeah, I'm going

to probably have to go back to that and clip

that out of whatever CBU episode that was. Oh

my god. Yes, I like my outro for episode 30 of

The Beast Unleashed. I have to go back and listen

to it. It was something along the lines of, yes,

I'm wasted. Tip your weakness. The seeds of the

moon fell buried in your ass. I've got big balls

bouncing from the left into the right. Something

along those lines, I don't know. Nice. And then

I said something else and then Depth Charge jumps

in and goes, X is down there. Yes.