San Diego Comic-Con 2009 Transformers Discussion

Hello, this is TFG1Mike and I am recording this

because what you're about to hear next is a special

All Things Transformers San Diego Comic Con discussion.

Myself, Professor Boss K. Dog, Kevin Thompson,

also known as Optimus Solo, my co -host from

Tooncast, and my three other co -hosts from Transformers

Toycast, Optimus Scourge, Big Bad Moonbox and

the Goddamn Proto Man discuss some of the SDCC

items that have been revealed so far for Transformers.

So that's up next. Please enjoy. Hello and welcome

to the this is going to be a general transformers

chat Not sure which geek cast radio network podcast

that it's going to be going under but seeing

is how Comic -con and all the transformers websites

and all the other websites have posted a lot

of news a lot of us are having trouble Opening

up the pages, so I'm gonna play this because

of that I am TFG1Mike and I am joined today with

Optimus Scourge. Say hello, sir. Hey, how you

doing, guys? Good. Let's see. Kevin, Optimus

Solo Thompson, hello. Hello, what's going on,

guys? Big Bad Boombox, hello. Hey, what's going

on? And last but certainly not least, the goddamn

protoman. I guess I'm not the chosen one because

I can't even open the website either. so this

is just going to be a basic overall discussion

of some of the comic -con stuff that's going

on we're going to hit on the revenge of the fallen

profits versus probably every other movie that's

going to come out this year in two thousand nine

uh... i guess we'll start with the comic -con

stuff first uh... what do you get have any of

you guys actually ever been to comic -con What

a man hasn't been to comic -con that's a shot

that surprises me I want I want to go to many

bar cons. I can't afford to go to comic -con.

Yeah, that's the problem because like Throughout

the year, I go to Anime North, which is the biggest

anime convention in North America. I run TFCon

with all my buddies. I go to BotCon as much as

I can possible. I go to the Fan Expo, which is

the largest. It's the San Diego Comic Con of

Canada. And that's coming up, I think, in less

than a month from now. I go to lots of conventions.

I do a lot of traveling. But it's like, I never

found the time to do San Diego Comic Con. I will

one day go. So far, I haven't found the time

to schedule it yet. I've seen it a lot. You know,

obviously G4 does their annual TV coverage of

it. It looks cool, but compared to seeing BotCon

footage, it's like 50 times larger than BotCon.

Of course, it's everything in the entertainment

industry as far as comics, movies, games, TV

shows, stuff like that. You know, I really have

no experience myself going to one I don't even

know if I would want to go to one if I actually

got the chance to do it Well from what I was

told from people who go there There's pretty

much two kinds of people that go they they go

there pretty much to have a good time and shop

around and just Learn about all the new stuff

that's going to be coming out and then there's

people that go there for the merch And if you

go there for the merch you spend all the days

at San Diego Comic -Con standing in lines for

the merch It's like after you're done standing

in line for three hours to get this Transformer

exclusive, you then go into another three hour

line for the G .I. Joe exclusives to go into

another three hour line for this DVD exclusive

for another three hour line. So it's a lot of

lines. There's a third type of person too that

goes there. You get the amateur or the rookie

artist going too to try to... You know kind of

break in and yeah make a name for themselves

sell some of their or you know their comic worker

their artwork So you get that group to let's

not forget because everyone that's important

in the industry is definitely there Right and

let's not forget all the people that dress up

in costumes that don't take them off for four

days and end up smelling like crap We like to

call them exactly I guess The biggest thing for

me for Comic Con, unless Hasbro is going to announce

the yet to be released animated figures, obviously

Shout Factory is selling the G1 set, the complete

series Matrix set there, with autographed lithographs

by Frank Welker. That would be so awesome to

get that. Is that what the lithograph is? Is

that confirmed? The lithograph is, I don't know

what it's of, but I know for a fact that it's

there being signed by Frank Welker. Oh my god,

it's mine no matter the cost So what what do

you guys want to talk about that you've seen

from from the TFW pages or the other transformers

news pages as far as figures or Just stuff in

general from comic -con as far as it pertains

to transformers I don't know. All right, I guess

I'll take that honor of going first. I'll touch

on the Human Alliance figures we've seen. We've

seen these figures before, but nice little display

at Comic -Con of the new figures of Human Alliance,

Side Swipe with Tech Sergeant Epps. He looks

awesome. Sergeant Epps looks good. I can't really

see too much detail on that pick, but I'm not

expecting much I mean, it's like that's a throw

-in for me that you get a figure at all I mean

the figure itself if it's anything like bumblebee,

which I'm sure it is looks great in the picks

I mean, you know, it just looks awesome. I mean

I love the side swipe regular deluxe. I can only

imagine, you know, I mean if you look at the

pictures from TFW, from Comic -Con, I mean obviously

the box picture, you can't see the car that well.

We've seen the car. The robot mode looks amazing.

The head scope looks really menacing and I really

like how they did the swords. They're silver

and they're like dual tipped. Really like how

that came out. The aesthetic came out well. And

my only question would be he's posed up against

a cube. I hope he doesn't suffer that problem

of where you have to tilt his feedback and he

can't balance. So that's my only issue with him,

although I would hope they would have solved

that. But he does look like he has those same

mech gears in his legs to his torso area. The

other human alliance figure that was shown at

Comic Con in the booth was human alliance skids,

which comes with Michaela and DRC. DRC is like

a really small figure. That's kind of like a

throw -in for it, which is good because as we

see her ride in both in the movie And I think

skids look I mean yeah skids with RC and Michaela

Baines looks really good Those are kind of ones

that stood out to me. I really a sucker for these

human alliance figures I actually bought a second

to keep an alt mode with my alternator collection

and stuff like that and did the hand swab I just

I think they're great for collectors who don't

necessarily Love the movie line, but you know,

they're a little bit more blocky stuff like that.

So those are kind of my picks Yeah, I saw the

the sound wave exclusive And of course, we all

know that Soundwave has been reissued so many

times. I actually had a G1 Soundwave, a key word

there being had. Can anybody, whoever wants to,

maybe ProtoMan, can explain to me why I would

want the SDCC version? Well, I guess the only

explanation I can think of is the mold that they're

using with that one is the Sound Blaster mold.

And for those who aren't familiar with that,

it's The individual buttons on the Soundwave

cassette mode are one molded piece as opposed

to individual molded piece like the original

G1 Soundwave. And the cassette door now could

hold two instead of just one cassette. So now

it protrudes a bit more outward. If you don't

like that sleek aesthetic to it. What makes this

one different from the TRU? It's a single chest.

It's a single chest. No, you could fit two in

the Toys R Us one. It's two in this one and the

Toys R Us one was also two. The only difference

from the one that was released from True back

in the day is there is absolutely nothing different.

The only thing is that this one comes in a sleeker

box and you get more cassettes this time around.

I swear to God, I saw a picture of him with a

single chest in that box. Okay, I didn't know

that. It's a possibility maybe I haven't seen

Photos, but from what I know the mold that Hasbro

has had their hands on All this time has been

the dual cassette chest one and even went to

car did their reissue They went with the dual

cassette chest one also I heard a rumor back

when this was first announced That at first it

was the dual and then they they switched it to

the single It's possible to I know the true one

is a double You find anything over there, Shane?

If you go to Cybertron .com, they have a gallery

from Bakon, and it will show you a single -chested

sound wave. Now, whether or not that's what's

actually at the Comic -Con is speculation, because

we don't have pictures of that from Comic -Con

yet, although I'm sure they're to pop up in the

sub forms. Well, like I said, the best way to

tell. If there's any pictures of it on the website,

the best way to tell is you don't even have to

look at the chest. Look at the buttons under

the chest. If it's all one single piece that

are attached together by its silver or gray plastic,

then it's the double fatter chest version. If

it's singular buttons, like each button is spaced

out and has its own plastic molding, then it's

the original flat chest sound wave that holds

only one set. i'm thinking it's a flash of sound

wave i've just a look at all the picture looks

like they're going with uh... no rub symbol traditional

just straight sticker uh... single single play

passport and stop but i'm sure that it's the

dot but it's not what so yeah i think it's awesome

i think that's awesome i had a kind of a whole

bunch of sets in a nice fancy box, so if you

want to buy it based on that. Me personally,

first of all, if you're someone who hasn't bought

the Soundwave up to this point, then that's great.

I bought the G1 Soundwave many years ago, complete

with everyone. If you were someone who didn't

get it then, there were so many opportunities

in the past to then pick him up. He was Encore

reissued. He was Takara Book Box reissued. He

was even reissued in America. So here's yet another

opportunity to pick it up if you haven't. And

you get all the cassettes in one shot, more or

less, minus Overkill, Slugfest, and the Rare

Headmaster cassettes. So what? You get every

cassette that was released originally, Ratbat,

Big Buster? No. You get pretty much every cassette

that was relevant to Soundwave, with the exception

of Overkill and Slugfest, which were the two

Dino cassettes, if you remember those. Has Laserbeak

and Bussaw? Laserbeak and Bussaw, Ratbat, Rumble,

Frenzy, and Ravage. So again, the ones of relevance.

Slugfest and Overkill were in the cartoon, but

again, one episode, eh. Yeah. I'm kind of curious

if the new, the Classics 2 .0 Ravage will fit

in that, if they're using the original model.

Yes, he does, actually. Yes, he does. Because

I have a hard time. I tried fitting them in my

G1 Soundwave, and I just couldn't get them to

fit right. Really? Now you're attempting me to

figure that one out, because I've never tried

it myself. Well, there's several versions of

the G1 Soundwave. There's the... One you're talking

about with the buttons, and then there's the

other one. And then there's something about a

split thigh or something like that on one of

them. There was two different molds they used

for the G1 Soundwave. I don't know too much more,

but there's definitely variations of it. Because

you had the Cassette Man mold, and then you had

the Hasbro mold, which they were almost identical.

Well, you had the cassette man mold. You had

the first run of the Hasbro mold without the

rub symbol. Then you had the actual rub symbol

mold. Then moving down the line, you had the

sound blaster mold from Japan, which was the

black sound wave repaint. If you move more down

the line from that, then you get the reissue

sound wave, the sound blaster reissue sound wave.

It's just a lot of the mold being reused over

and over and over. And what one possibility is

is mold degradation. It's a case with a lot of

the mini cons today is that a lot of the mini

cons because they've been Repainted and remolded

so many times that the molds are actually destroyed

and degraded What's possible is that the sound

wave mold maybe throughout the years of being

remolded over and over? Integrated maybe the

cassette cavity got larger and larger. That's

that's a guess So maybe that maybe that's what

maybe the ravage when Hasbro said at BotCon that

the ravage fits in sound waves chest Maybe they

meant that the Toys R Us sound wave or You know,

a later release. Yeah, I know it definitely fits

the Toys R Us one. My other one's mitten box.

It is minuscule the amount of space that it's

missing by. It's less than a millimeter. Do you

have Sound Blaster or the Toys R Us reissued?

You know what? I held off on it for this. I was

going to get it a couple of months ago, but now

I'm just holding off for the SDCC. Take a gander

at this one. It's going to be a duplicate of

the Takara book style, which was the single chest.

That's my guess, too. I think they're barking

up that tree. They're not going to make anything

new. Yeah. I think it's exactly that. And also

recently, Takara also recently did up some box

sets of just the cassettes, too. That's right.

frenzy and rumble and uh... no it was uh... it

was the blasters cassettes right blasters cassettes

and they did a box set of of uh... of sound waves

cassettes also so what this is pretty much it's

more or less just kind of punching that all together

releasing it america's exclusive that's why i'm

not too excited about it because unless you're

someone that really missed out all those other

opportunities on picking up this stuff in the

past i mean hey that's great but it's a really

expensive opportunity now i mean God knows how

much this thing's going to go for on eBay unless

you could pick it up from Comic -Con directly.

I actually have a friend on Twitter who's going

to try and get that for me. I want it more or

less for the box and the display value of it.

It's gorgeous. I mean, just with the cassettes

like Ravage running, Ratbat flying in the huge

window box, it's gorgeous. It's a gorgeous looking

box. I will agree with that. I don't need the

toy. I have all the toys That's the only selling

value is that it comes in a beautiful display

box of a whole bunch of stuff that technically

already Oh, so although I will add to that That

that said I wouldn't go out of my way to get

it on eBay But if you don't have if you don't

have soundwave and you can pick it up for 65

bucks or so on eBay or whatever it goes for definitely

worth it I mean especially with all the cassettes

you get I mean definitely definitely worth it.

I'm crossing my fingers for Monday morning Because

if it's anything like last year, we're gonna

end up with a bunch of SDCC exclusives over on

HTS It's a possibility but then again the thing

that I want you to consider is we just came fresh

off of that movie and Soundwave was in that movie

We're gonna get a whole bunch of what I refer

to as level one fans who are just like yo Remember

that tape guy? Yo, I so loved him as a kid. You

want me to buy his toy I think we're gonna get

a lot of that at comic -con and You know, you

have to realize something Well, I wasn't... Well,

people will argue me about this. The Shattered

Glass BotCon set was hardly the best botcon set

ever released. But you know what? The only one

I ever sold. That sold out. You want to know

why? Because it came fresh off of the movie.

You know, so you got a lot of people that were

coming fresh off the movie that just wanted to

have a piece of that Transformer titty, you know?

And that's kind of what this is. That's kind

of what this is. I would not be surprised if

someone told me that the Mighty Mug of Optimus

Prime... sells out at San Diego Comic Con. Just

solely based on the fact that a whole bunch of

people show up and go, oh, Transformers, oh,

I love that movie, buys it. Yeah, an impulse

buy, definitely. A lot of this stuff would be

impulse buys for a lot of people who are just

nostalgic. Yeah, with Soundwave, Susan, who's

a very high -tier character, and considering

how even for us, this is considered a very good

deal. Yeah, I wouldn't get your hopes up on this

showing up on a Hasbro toy shop afterwards This

isn't a nemesis prime situation What do you have

trouble with HCS I can hook you up I'll be home

You know it'll all depend I've got got my phone

with me, so I should still be good to go Okay

Look, you know actually kind of think of it.

I'm just reading why don't you post post on the

boards? Anyone go in a comic -con want to hook

me up with a sound wave? I mean Yeah You know

you'd be surprised I mean there's a lot of people

like me who will hook you up for cosplay shipping

I mean That's sweet We have any other comic -con

stuff as far as transformers that we want to

talk about I had a I had a couple that caught

my eye when I was glancing through there the

first one would have been the the mix master

Rejecto I thought I thought that one looks pretty

sweet got the the nice silver Mixer part looking

real shiny on the picture It doesn't obviously

have any pictures of it in in robot mode per

se But it gives a good side view and a sort of

a front view on another picture, but I think

that looks pretty darn sweet. And completely

unshocking that it was going to happen, of course.

We all knew it was going to happen. I'm actually

a little shocked that it happened on an individual

transformable instead of the actual complete

Devastator box set. At least not yet. It's only

a matter of time. It's only a matter of time.

That does look good. Looking at that color scheme,

You can almost double that up for a alt mode

for like an animated shelf too if you were, you

know, because we didn't get an animated Mixed

Master or Scrapper. That is true. A lot of people

I know they're saying just take your Revenge

of the Fallen dirt boss and use that as dirt

boss. I am doing the same thing right now. Oh

no. I wouldn't say that. Revenge of the Fallen.

Yeah, there's a lot worse. I wouldn't say dirt

boss. And animated. Professor Francis was the

best thing to happen. The other redeco that caught

my eye, even though I wish I could see some more

pictures of it, is the Insecticon set. And from

reading the back of it, it's saying that it's

the trio. Didn't Hasbro lose the name of Bombshell?

Well, Bombshell is now called Hardshell. Shrapnel

they lost many years ago, and so they also lost

Kickback, so it'll be really interesting to see

what they call them this time. I think Chris

bought that rights to that. So all I know for

sure is that definitely they have the name Insecticon

still registered. They renewed it in Energon

in 2002, so they still have it fresh for another

four years at least. And on the back there, it

does say that it's identical to the original

toys, basically. I just wish there was a picture

of them instead of just the box art. That's another

scenario where Hasbro, excuse me, Takara gave

us two opportunities to own that already. There

was a Insecticon three pack set of reissues done

in the book box style. Then they did a variant

color e -hobby edition. Shortly after that which

was done like in red and green highlights and

stuff like that was very weird one And I think

they came with energon cubes if I remember correctly

See I missed out on all those so I'd be very

interested in this set because I missed out on

those other ones Yeah, I mean to I've only got

g1 kicked back. So I'd love to finish up the

set Yeah, those are fun little guys. Let me tell

you for what they are, you know They're not marvels

of engineering, but they're little pieces of

TF history, and they're very cute. I wonder how

they hold up overall, because I know that with

the kickback that I have, just because of the

diecast, there is some definite joint wear from

years and years. Oh yeah, of course. I have I

have all three of them in the in the from G1

and and actually those out of the ones that I

have from G1 hold up pretty have held up pretty

well I don't know if it's just because I didn't

play with them as much as I did with the other

ones, but They're sitting on the shelf pretty

good. Yeah, they just sitting on the shelf too

staring back Everything is staring back at you

How do you sleep tell that to my girlfriend They

get freaked out. Yeah, I was going to say, wait,

you just put a plural on that. Well, all of them

in the past, they got kind of freaked out by

it, you know? Oh, OK. Well, you know, when you

have a whole bunch of people tend to get freaked

out. Oh, yeah. It could be worse. It could be

a whole bunch of owls. I remember one friend

once told me, imagine if the movie Toy Story

was real. Oh, god. I'd go more indie in the cupboard

on that man. I want to go old school Actually

you guys do any you guys remember that when they

did the movie they showed Darth Vader the dinosaur

I was sitting there going where's Optimus Prime?

You know cuz you know that kid if he's rocking

transformers and rather Star Wars and dinosaurs

This has got to be a transfer somewhere in that

room. Yeah her mock just comes in rips off Vader's

head Wait, did he really rip off Vader's head?

I wonder what he would say afterwards Do we have

any other things Well, I guess I was just gonna

touch up quickly. Well, they also showed They're

probably showing up in stores either now or really

soon, because I know there has been some sightings

of it. They did repaints of the titanium three

-inchers, where we kind of thought we heard the

last of titaniums. That was the end of it. But

there's one last hurrah for them. And they took

the previous movie titaniums that we got from

two years ago, and they repainted them as Guess

the only thing that's kind of interesting to

me about these repaints is that they based all

these repaints off of previously existing? Repaint

molds so like you like you have one set that

has rescue ratchet So they based it off of the

fast action battler ratchet toy and the voyager

that was done in the g1s colors they have a titanium

of off -road iron hide which again was a A nod

to the fast action bad wear and the Voyager toy.

That was a repaint. They did a three inch titanium

of desert deep desert brawl which is again a

repaint of the leader class toy and I believe

we got a desert version in Revenge of the Fallen.

It came out in wave three with Ravage. It was

a deluxe. The only one that's interesting really

And we got a cliff jumper one that again was

a nod to the robot hero that came with the Best

Buy DVD and the deluxe figure. But the only one

that's interesting is that there's a three inch

titanium of dead end. Now dead end obviously

he got two toys already in the Revenge of the

Fallen Line and they're two separate completely

different molds and two different characters,

at least to our knowledge. But yet they went

with the jazz titanium molds for this character.

which is interesting because I thought they would

have went with maybe G1Jazz or even they could

have done Smokescreen which seems to be the new

jazz repaint thing. There's a fast action battle

or one of that. I don't know. That's all I wanted

to talk about. It's interesting to see that the

Titaniums are coming back one last time. Yes,

very much so. Actually Titanium Galvatron is

still sitting on my little mod stand here staring

at me with his gun pointing at me. About the

only titanium was about the only figure I've

ever wanted to take back to the store money back

from yeah, I bought him money That's okay a lot

a lot of people did yeah, but I got I have to

mega time and you couldn't stand him up so That

unleashed I heard Everyone was not happy with

All right, so we're gonna move on to a topic

idea I had because it's not really because other

podcasts have already talked about it It's because

I'm so sick of all the Harry Potter fans Going

all Gaga over the six movie and I have never

been one to get into I'm sorry. It's just not

something I can get into So the topic is revenge

of the fallen versus everything else and we're

also gonna talk about the prophets and for that

I will switch it to pro to well The movie is,

for lack of better words, kicking a lot of ass.

I mean, the numbers are absolutely insane this

time around. I remember when the 2007 movie came

out, how much I was bragging about how well it

was doing. Because first of all, when the 2007

movie came out, I figured it was going to do

well, but I didn't think it would do $700 billion

well. And I started looking at the numbers and

seeing, just to go back to the first movie, the

original 2007 movie is number 31 in greatest

selling movie of all time in the world, number

31. And I believe domestically, I'm just going

to check that right now just to double check,

and domestically, meaning in North America, Canada,

and Mexico, It's number 21 in greatest selling

movie of all time. And just to give you an idea,

above Transformers is the Lion King and Forrest

Gump. Just to give you an idea. And then it's

Jurassic Park, and Star Wars, and the first Spider

-Man movie, and E .T., and of course, Titanic

sits there on the top. But we can't argue with

Titanic. Oh, wait. Didn't Dark Almost overtake

Titanic? You know, you know what the Dark Knight

is number two and it's a very strong and proud

number two But it's not even close to Titanic

in numbers. You have to realize something Titanic

just in Japan alone Okay made enough money to

sell tickets for Lion King's numbers Like it's

just it's it's the when it went when it came

out in Japan It blew everything out of the sky

and I have to remind everyone who's listening

in Japan Going to the movies is a completely

different experience than it is for us people

in America and Canada the UK or whatever See

because when we go to see a movie It's usually

between eight dollars and fourteen dollars you

go into the theater you sit down you watch the

movie you leave That's it in Japan. It's kind

of like going to the theater But in like you

know like a live -action theater kind of sense

a ticket is the equivalency of 30 bucks Okay,

let's start with that Yeah, but the interesting

is before you go into the theater you're given

a program about the movie that you're about to

see and it's a full page probably like between

let's say five and eight pages of full color

talking about each character that's going to

be in this movie and who the actor is and what

he did prior. And they do this for every movie,

not just Transformers. Every movie you go to

see in Japan, they do this. They have a little

program that says, oh, you're seeing Transformers

Revenge of the Fallen. Shia LaBeouf, who formerly

was in the movie Holes and blah, blah, blah,

they'll do a whole thing and they'll talk about

his character. And they do this for every movie.

So going to the movies in Japan is a bigger experience.

And as a result, it commends a larger ticket

price. But at the same time, it brings in a lot

more money for the final sales. Going back to

that though, now the original movie made $708

million and it's sat pretty high. And a lot of

us thought, well, you know what, even me, I thought

that the second movie, while it'll probably also

do well, I didn't think it would beat the first

movie because the first movie had kind of that

fresh feeling. A lot of people wanted to see

that movie just to be able to see what Transformers

on the big screen would be like. And then I thought,

you know what, I thought the second movie half

of those people wouldn't come back the second

time because it's old and it's said and done.

But I was wrong. And I was horribly wrong. And

what Revenge of the Fallen did was it blew Transformers

1's records out of the floor. To give you an

idea, Transformers 2, Revenge of the Fallen,

right now holds the number one records for the

following things. The top movie that came out

in the past 365 days, meaning it did better than

every other movie so far in the past year. It's

so far the top movie of 2009 this year. It has

the top opening of 2009 this year. It has the

top numbers of a PG -13 movie. It has the top

numbers of a worldwide movie that came out in

2009 this year. It has the top numbers for a

movie to open on a Friday, because it opened

Friday in some locations and other places Wednesday.

It has obviously the top opening numbers for

every Wednesday. It has the top non -opening

numbers for a Friday, Thursday, Tuesday, and

Wednesday. So every other day, it kicked butt.

So when another movie was coming out on a Tuesday,

Revenge of the Fallen beat it, like Ice Age.

Ice Age came out, and Revenge of the Fallen beat

its numbers when it wasn't even an opening. It

did the top numbers for a single Wednesday, just

a random Wednesday. It did the top numbers for

all of June. It's just a whole bunch of first

places that just keep going and going and going

that the original movie did not achieve. And

ultimately in the end, it ended up beating the

original movie in final sales. Right now, the

Revenge of the Fallen movie sits at $769 million.

And to give you an idea where that sits, That

means that right now Revenge of the Fallen is

the 27th best -selling movie of all time and

the only and the movie that is sitting Above

it right now is the original Star Wars movie

So yeah, and it's yeah, and it's only and it's

only behind the original Star Wars movie by five

million dollars Which could be done in like an

image? Is that is that uh, are you talking you're

talking about worldwide Yes, worldwide. We're

like this domestic. It's a lot domestic. It's

not gonna catch Star Wars Domestically, it's

almost a hundred million Okay, here's the thing

though domestically Let me see range of the fall.

Yeah. Here's the thing. Yeah domestically Star

Wars is number three Yeah, so it's it's it's

quite a trip for some for Transformers to catch

up to it there But the thing is is that again

to break it down if you look at Revenge of the

Fallen's foreign ticket sales Like which one

it seems that the countries that really enjoyed

the movie more than anyone else not counting

obviously us South Korea loved the hell out of

that movie Thirty -four million dollars came

from South Korea alone Then here's a really interesting

one. The kings of all the bootlegs, China and

Hong Kong, they contributed a huge chunk of money.

China contributed $33 million and Hong Kong contributed

another $17 million. Those are two countries

that are notorious for bootlegging. The fact

that anyone showed up to the theater is quite

impressive. What I find weird though is that

Japan, which I would think the land of the rising

robots, where Transformers would probably sell

the best, it only did $20 million. The UK, it

did $38 million. Everywhere, it sold amazing.

The only other number that I'm going to mention,

though, that's interesting, is that Transformers

actually is the best -selling movie of all time,

though, in one country, and that's China. It

actually beat Titanic in China. In China, Transformers

is the best -selling movie of all time. And domestically,

Revenge of the Fallen is going to be in the top

10 domestically all time. If you project it out

and you look at the weekend by weekend, how much

it's done, it's easily going to get 20 million

more. It's going to pass Passion of the Christ

and Spider -Man 2, which are the ones that are

sitting here. And Lord of the Rings. And Lord

of the Rings probably in the next little while.

It's gonna come real close to to budding up against

Star Wars episode, you know Revenge of the Sith

I don't know if it'll pass it or not I would

say that it's going to pass it, but I don't know

if it's gonna get to spider -man Well, I actually

went to see the movie yet another time for the

fifth time two days ago just for the hell of

it a friend of mine wanted to go see it and we

went to one of our casual kind of crappier theaters

to see it for like five bucks on a Monday, you

know, and we went to see it And this was two

days ago. And let me tell you something. There

was still a good amount of people in that theater.

I thought we were going to be alone. So people

are still going to see it. And I figured, let's

see now. There was about 30 people in that theater.

And that was at $5 a pop. There's still some

money coming in. And that's one little thing.

I was big on looking at the I was big on when

the first one came out I was big on looking at

the because I wanted it to get as high as possible

on the charts and I kept checking weekend after

weekend the difference between the first one

and this one is the the first one had a more

extended time where it was still getting big

numbers but this one had bigger numbers up front

because if you look at the weekends in this one

you had the first weekend Friday and Saturday

36 million and 40 million and then you had the

next weekend it dropped down to 17 and 10 yeah

the next one down to seven and nine and then

by the by the fourth weekend it was down to four

and five the other one had a longer span where

it stayed a little bit higher than that but this

one had such a big number at the beginning that's

what's given it that life but it's actually dropped

a little bit faster than the first one. What

I think this is more attributed to and why while

it beat the original movie why it made such big

drops was when the movie originally came out

Whoever wanted to see this saw it on its opening

day, granted. But I think afterwards, all the

negative reviews kind of pushed off people from

seeing it initially afterwards, considering that

almost every critic didn't like this movie. But

then I think the week that probably followed

after that, everyone was like, look, the critics

are wrong. This movie is not bad. And then obviously

people started showing up again. So, and then

again, and then again, and then again, and then

again. I think it easily is going to bring in

at least 20 more million, which will put it at

number nine domestic. I just don't know if it'll

hit that 400 mark, because that would take about

32 and a half million more. That's the other

thing I forgot to mention. One other title that

it has is that it's the worst rated movie of

all time to reach those numbers. Just think of

the top 10, though. If you look at us nerds or

whatever you want to call them, you look at the

top 10 domestic, you're going to have Dark Knight,

You're going to have three Star Wars, a Spider

-Man, and a Transformers in the top 10. And on

that note, we are going to go to break. We will

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back from break. We are still doing the comic

-con discussion here on all things transformers

uh... what's up next guys who wants to talk about

work all out i i think the other boombox like

taking center stage i'm gonna take this opportunity

to kind of break away but not really so much

so uh... from transformers uh... to get into

with gm uh... more specifically chevy and uh...

the lovely sneak peek they gave us of the official

transformers bumblebee package uh... tomorrow

I've got to say I've been looking at Camaro since

obviously the 2006 prototype came out and I've

got to say I'm having mixed feelings right now

with the way that the package comes. I believe

it was like a yellow -orange pearl that the actual

bumblebee in the movie is, a specific coloration,

but they're offering this particular package

with the traditional rally yellow with a special

high gloss pinstriping. that's supposed to be

specific to that. I haven't seen any comparison

shots with the standard Camaro rally stripe package.

But there's a number of small things. I believe

it's a markup of about $1 ,000. With that, you're

going to be getting Autobot logos that are embroidered

into your center console, as well as the driver's

side and passenger side door panels. You're also

going to have the Autobot logos, I believe. From

what I can tell, I think those are just standard

chrome emblems that are going to be going under

the Camaro on the side. As well as, I believe

they said the dorsals are also embroidered with

the Autobot logos. For a robot in disguise, there's

an awful lot of giveaway markings on this particular

model. I've got to say, go ahead. What about

the steering wheel? Did it have the steering

wheel? In the movie? In the movie, it did. I

don't know. In the movie, the 74 had that because

that's an original. It's an old school rally

style. I can't remember the name of the actual

company that makes that. But yeah, that's one

of the earlier Camaro aftermarket steering wheels.

And that just actually had a standard Autobot

emblem that was in it. In the movie, at least,

from what I noticed, because I paid particularly

close attention to the interior, did not carry

over along with the... Autobot logo, the Beotch

air freshener, and the disco ball. I'm still

kind of curious where those went when Bumblebee

re -scanned. Anybody have any idea? Nope. I honestly

can't say I do. You knew it wasn't coming back

for this movie over the fiasco they had after

the first movie because of the unlicensed use

of that particular air freshener. I don't know

if you guys heard about that one. That was a

pretty big deal from them. One of the few people

I know who actually owns a three -pack of the

ones from the company itself. But overall, they're

offering this on all trim packages of the Camaro.

Some people know, some people don't, that the

Revenge of the Fallen Bumblebee was actually

the prototype Z28 that was actually recently

it was teased out by Chevrolet that they may

be seeing an official, well obviously Bumblebee

is the prototype, but an official production

style car at next year's Detroit Auto Show. They're

already looking at the SS, which is about 426

horsepower. The Z28 is actually going to be even

more. I believe they're already proridding it

to 460 horsepower. So that's a pretty, for any

Transformers collector, that's going to be a

major, major investment to the collection. Any

thoughts? Oh yeah, definitely. I'm saying myself,

I'm like, well, I'm a completist and I'm like,

well, I'm just going to wait until that becomes

an old used car and then I guess I can pick one

up. It'll be loose out of the box, you know,

articulation might need some work. The door sills

say transformers on it the hood scoop says Transformers

on it and the rims are the same rims, but they

have Autobot logos on the center caps I've actually

got a little bit of a beef with with Chevrolet

on this because I The front doesn't match the

front doesn't match Well, no, it's not somebody

I think they should have actually made a specific

paint blend for this particular edition for a

thousand dollars You're basically getting a lot

of stuff that you could go over on the eBay motors

and pick up for your car For yeah, definitely

the cost all the emblems and the stickers. Yeah

There's been aftermarket transformer metal emblems

and stuff for the cars long before Revenge of

the Fallen movie even existed. I remember going

to car shows back in college and we're talking

like 1999 where I saw emblems of Autobot logos

or Decepticon logos made in chrome diecast or

whatever next to people's Hondas or even replacing

their Honda logos. This isn't too shocking for

me and for a thousand dollars more. That's a

big matzah ball to be asking. Well, not to mention

they don't tell you that, and this is something

that I just noticed because I've actually personally

been pricing one of these out recently. I actually

went for a test drive and one over the weekend.

Those are the 19 inch rims. You actually have

to pay $3 ,000 more to make sure you get those

rims in order to get that particular package.

$3 ,000 more rims? You've got to be kidding me.

Am not kidding you that's with the rims and the

tires comes out to about thirty two hundred dollars

to go to the 19 inch because standard it comes

with a very ugly Literally, I don't know why

they did it It's like a 17 inch rim, but it's

these big thick fat spoke. They're just Ugly

on the car. They don't they don't do anything

for it That's if you go with like the base v6

model, you know bare bones nothing But but then

obviously if you want the bulb to be rather be

transformers package You've got to actually shell

out that extra dough to make sure you're getting

the 19 inch rims That's an option on the transformers

Let's put it like this. I'm sure that they could

make you a custom one that had the crap rims

that come with it, the standard V6 model with

all the additional stuff. They don't give you

a choice? No. Yeah, for the rims, it's either

you have the 19 inch with the center caps or

you have the standard. 17 inch Camaro cheap off

-the -line cast rims, which look horrible on

the vehicle Check it out over chevy .com. They've

got it right there when you go to price them

out I'm actually looking at the picture from

TFW with the Autobot logo sewn into the center

console and leather that looks really nice It's

kind of subtle That is subtle, and you know what,

I think that's where a good majority of the value

of this is coming from. But at the same time,

who's to say that you couldn't take out your

center console lid and bring it over to an embroidery

place at any given mall. Oh, clearly. And have

to do it for $5. Oh, yeah. I just had a custom

jersey made up on the cheap for my buddy. So

yeah, well, that's just it. Any of this stuff

that you're paying $3 ,000 for clearly could

be done easily through eBay. or anyone who has

a local body shop with some guys who really know

what they're doing. It wouldn't even cost half

the price. It would cost, like, God, a quarter

of the price. And you know what the thing is,

though? I'm sure that each one of these cars

is going to come specifically numbered with,

obviously, certificates of authenticity that

this is, in fact, the Transformers Edition Camaro.

And that's where it's going to really be sticking

it. I believe this model is going to be retaining

its value long after other Camaros have actually

gone down. Oh, no doubt. As Proto Man said, five,

six, seven years down the road when these things

have 50 ,000, 60 ,000 miles on them, we're going

to scoop them up. Well, it's not only that. To

be fair, GM cars, usually the year after they

come out, they already tank. Jazz's little solstice

there? Let's not even talk about that car's problems.

Yeah, it's gone. Yeah, that car has got problems.

It was voted car and driver's worst car mechanically

to take care of. So if you're looking to drive

a car from the movie, hey, you want the solstice?

Yeah, what is it we're going for right now? $11

,000? You can't give that car away. Good luck

if you even find the GXP. so yes it which it's

problems that it uh... it got ripped in half

just like jazz did in the first movie it's kind

of ironic isn't it yes very much so uh... but

it's it it's kind of the same thing i kind of

see that this car i guarantee two three years

down the line it'll already be like cheap cheap

cheap and if you're a transformer collectors

going through a midlife crisis when you get fifty

you want to drive bubble be whole you could get

a fright i bet you that this is not over exaggeration

i could seem going for seven thousand dollars

by that Maybe even less. I mean American cars

have no after -sale market value. You will find

a Honda Civic from 1992 to 1995 still going for

$8 ,000, but if you find any GM car from 1995,

yeah, $3 ,000, $2 ,000 if you're lucky. Not to

go off topic, but speaking of Transformers cars,

I'd take a super black edition of the Nissan

GTR. The alternative. There's a lot of other

cars. How do you think I feel? How the hell am

I going to get my hands on a Dome Zero, which

is what Hot Rod was based off of? It was a prototype

car. Exactly. I got to hope for something else.

You can make one yourself. Why, yeah. There's

so many people who are like, oh, if you take

a Sebring and you mix it with a Firebird body,

you might make a big spoiler. Oh, yeah. You know

what? I'm obsessed. I have my limits. Or do I?

No, you don't. When it comes to Hot Rod or Rod.

If someone had made that, though, and put it

on eBay. Oh, God. Blank check. Oh, with all the

work done already. Then what? I'll be back in

about a month, guys. I got to go find some spare

cars. Seriously, Lever. You know what? The idea

has gone through my mind. But anyways. It has

crossed Actually, I know we I know Shane you

wanted to go off on that little tangent I actually

Forgot when we came back from break. We were

talking about we're into the following movie

not comic -con stuff. Yeah It's fine I I screw

up like that all the time how I forget what the

hell I did the last two hours little it's all

things transformers Yes, exactly. I'm just going

back to the movie a little bit You know, I've

said and I will continue to say that i personally

think there is not going to be another blockbuster

this year that can even remotely come close to

the revenge of the fallen numbers now i would

go as so far as to say that if this was marvel's

year for movies like next year will be marvel

could give it a run for its money but uh... i

don't think that from trailers and previews I've

seen from almost everything else that's going

to come out this year as far as quote unquote

blockbusters, nothing is going to beat this thing.

I could see maybe an Iron Man 2 giving it a run

for its money, but I really don't see any of

the other Marvel movies coming down the line

doing the same. I can't even see Iron Man 2 doing

it. I mean, Iron Man 1 didn't do it. You know

what? Iron Man 1 did comfortably well. Maybe

more people will show up for Iron Man 2. Again,

Captain America is going to do well in America,

but I can't imagine people in Swarm showing up

for it in Japan. or any other country. Same thing,

the GI Joe. I can't even finish that. We're just

not even going to go there. I can't even finish

that sentence. But anyways, what I'm trying to

get at is that same thing, I can't really picture

anything this year or next year really contending

against this. And I didn't even expect it to

do as well as I thought it would. My only issue

with You'd mention Iron Man 2. My only issue

with that movie is they recast Rhodes. I thought,

yeah, what the hell is that about? But anyways,

let's not get off topic there. Well, no, I mean,

I'm not trying to get off the topic. But I mean,

that is my only issue with that movie. And if

the trailer doesn't blow me across my living

room once I see it, I probably won't go to the

movies and see it. But yeah, anyways. So moving

on I guess we can hit up the mini masterpiece

optimus prime Yeah, exactly, I think that I think

that actually deserves one of these You know

that you know you guys Somebody posted a link

in the Skype window, and I looked at that and

I was like oh my god even though. It's a prototype

picture It looks so awesome. The detail is incredible.

The detail is not just incredible, it's off the

friggin scale. It just is. It's perfect. He comes

with an openable matrix. I don't think that has

been done with any toy. He's a direct scale down

masterpiece prime. That's awesome. The arm panel

that flips up is incredible, at least to me.

The detail on that's awesome. Oh yeah, it is,

very much so. It's great for people like myself

who missed out on the Classics Prime the first

time around, too. Not to mention, it's nice because

if I remember correctly, and correct me if I'm

wrong, guys, didn't they say that the original

Deluxe, the Deluxe 2 -pack Optimus and Megatron,

that mold, or rather, they were considering using

that to scale up to a Voyager before they went

to what we now know as the Classics Prime? None

good good thing they actually the thing is they

both kind of came out at the same time They both

did see yeah, because what you have is the one

that was used which is called the battle begins

to pack Which came out for I believe it was classics

That one what they did was they remold it. I

don't if you remember robot masters, which was

a Japanese line that came out during I think

it was 2001 anyone no Okay, well the robot Master's

had a Optimus Prime that I guess you could call

was a downsized version of the Masterpiece toy,

although a simplified version of that. When they

made this figure that you're referring to in

the Battle Begins 2 pack, they kind of blew up

the robot Master's version, gave it a little

bit of a head remold and then put that spinning

punch gimmick whatever thingy that's in that.

A terrible gimmick. Yeah Ow dude that wasn't

me Does the does the foot piece on on this one

that we're looking at is that does that look

different than some of the I have I don't Have

all the primes in front of me to examine but

it is exactly the same It's the same okay right

now. I have about seven masterpiece molds That

is this exact replica only downscaled Okay, but

that the but the yeah even the tire even the

tire treads. I mean it's unreal That foot piece

though is unique to the masterpiece mold right?

That's not on any the other side. No That's what

I thought there seems to be new things on it

here in there Yeah, I don't think we've ever

had an arm panel flip up halfway No, that was

in Masterpiece Prime as well. That was that was

Masterpiece Prime was one on each arm. Oh, okay

Okay, what was that? Was that referencing to

the cartoon anything? Yes, there was one episode

where he does contact Bumblebee. Oh, that's right

That's right. And even prior to the Masterpiece

Prime doing that they made a PVC figure of Act

4 I believe of the of the PVC line from Japan

where Optimus Prime was talking to his comlink

on his arm Okay, they also produce that in the

u .s. Under yeah for the heroes of Cybertron

line You know what? I think would be really cool

if they did with this figure Well, first of all

give him a trailer second of all give him a ruler

Like a show accurate roller. Well, you know what

a g1 trailer would fit this guy because he's

pretty much deluxe scale it might be a little

small but I Don't know. Yeah, I'm gonna make

a trail. I was I'm gonna make a trailer. Is there

a peg point visually on that? If it's a direct

copy of the original, I'm looking for an alt

mode. Yes, there is. It's exactly the same. I

mean, look at the feet. It's exactly the same.

It's got the flip -up tab with the peg. So then

there's a possibility. Maybe it's pretty... This

looks like it was just directly downcast from

that. It's amazing. I wonder if they're going

to go right for the kill with adding the trailer.

It even has the button in the back of the head

to move the mouth, rather. Oh, cool. Now the

question is does it have those ugly teeth under

it? For anyone that's actually removed the mouthpiece,

there's a smiling face under it. I actually don't

think I've ever seen that. I'll try to find you

a picture. Oh God. Well, not to go back on my

little car -terriate, but the Transformers package

is now available on the Chevy site. And that's

Chevy calm or Chevrolet calm or whatever I'm

sure they own both. Yeah Um, what else do we

want to cover guys because that's really all

that I wrote down I kept asking for suggestions

and nobody really said anything there. Nobody

really typed anything in the window So what else

do we want to cover on this? I guess you could

call it a SDCC special Well, how about that cover

sky sky warp yet? No. Or perceptor? No. The reissue

insecticons? I think we did that. Just on that,

yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah, Kevin. I'm kind of curious

if this particular, have they said yet whether

or not the new perceptor is actually going to

be able to be used as a microscope as well? I'm

pretty sure they kept that. I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, because that was a 10 times magnification

the original had? Something like that. It was

a magnifying glass at best. I'm sure that will

be fine. I think only the die -hard collectors

are really going to grab that one up, that and

scalpers. That's my professional opinion on that

one, though. Oh, yeah. Well, they will show up,

definitely. People are going to probably pick

it up, but it's going to be more of the hard

-cores. It's going to be all about Soundwave.

Out of all the stuff that San Diego Comic -Con

is offering, it's going to be that Matrix of

Leadership box set and the Soundwave. I think

that the Insecticons, Perceptor, and that shiny

robot, excuse me, that Mighty Mugs Optimus Prime,

I think that those three are going to be kind

of, I guess, overlooked by the casual people

at Comic -Con. And henceforth, there'll be 40

,000 of them on HTS. Yeah, those are going to

be the ones that, guys, I wouldn't go crazy bidding

on it on eBay. Wait. But that Matrix and Leadership

box set, yes. Yes, I think that even more than

the Soundwave one. That's going to be the hot

ticket. Oh, yeah, right. Do you have that proto?

Do you have that set? I own that. And let me

tell you something. Due to it's speech. I'm speechless.

Like seriously, it's it's without a doubt what

we've all the way you Yeah, the way you open

it. It's like opening a matrix. Yeah, just it's

opening it Just opening it is enough to like

explain it like not not even the fact that it

holds DVDs You know, it's like just open the

matrix to get them out. Yeah, it's awesome Although

I will say I know this is gonna be blasphemy

here, but the The design on the G .I. Joe one

is actually a touch better than the Matrix of

Leadership set. They have more stuff. I will

give them that too. It's a little more sturdy.

It's a little more sturdy of a box also. Do you

own it? Yeah, I have both of them. How do you

like the G .I. Joe one? Because I was thinking

about that. I actually haven't got to start watching

them yet because I'm still on the transponder.

I mean just packaging wise. I have already seen

these. The packaging is amazing. Like it's it's

so sturdy. It's got reinforced edges all the

way around It's got the lock the way they have

the DVDs in and like the little Top shelf of

it's awesome. All those the extras the dog tag.

Everything is awesome about it Cool. Yeah, you

see that's that's the thing I find amazing that

it even came with a little like USB dog tag Like

they put time exploded into them. Yeah extras

put on it I see and again, I don't want to hate

on the matrix DVD box that it's amazing But it's

it's it's kind of sad the GI Joe one really like

it really got a little more pizzazz to it Yeah,

I mean they're both awesome, but after you get

the Matrix of Leadership the one week and you're

amazed by it, then to get the GI Joe one the

next week in the mail, I was like, holy cow,

it's even better. Yeah. Yeah, I so want it. I

so want it. That's why I'm being quiet right

now. I'm floating at the mouth. Sorry. Exactly.

It's OK. It's OK. In every tune cast that Kevin

brings it up, I always give him one of these.

You son of a. I get one of those all the time.

Yeah. I was reading on that site that we were

talking about the lithographs that are that's

coming with the sign By Frank Welker that's coming

with the matrix of leadership sets at comic -con.

It says it's only for the first 350 alone. Oh,

wow So probably already those are Seeing here

and here you go the first 350 box sets Yeah,

imagine how many they're bringing Probably a

good thousand there. Yeah They're bringing it

at all. I wonder how much I wonder how many were

produced total since we're only gonna get the

one shot I Hope well, you know, they don't they

they don't want to release anymore because they

want to pimp those Those individual box that's

right out tail right now, you know, yeah, I just

wonder how many total matrix That's where we're

is the triple changer feature on the complete

series or is it just? There's some stuff that

I was told that is unique to the box set. But

everything on the season set is on the box set.

OK, because I wasn't sure. See, that's the whole

thing. I know this is still Transformers DVD,

but just TV on DVD in general. Kevin, you know

about TV shows on DVD .com. I email and talk

to the two guys that run that site every chance

I get if I want to know something. You know they

basically said when they first broke the news

about the complete series is that normally this

is This is against prototype and of course shout

factory has never been one to do You know the

prototype thing normally when you release TV

stuff or cart, you know TVs on DVD It's season

by season by season and then they release the

complete series. I think what's gonna hurt Everybody

and gonna make us double dip on the individual

sets is that after? The Matrix set's already

out. They haven't released season 2, volume 1,

or volume 2 yet. That's coming in September,

I believe. There's probably going to be features

on that that aren't in the Matrix set. You know

what? I would welcome that, even though it would

mean I'd have to buy more stuff. I would welcome

it, because I just want more content. Because

I love the - I don't think it will. I don't think

it will, though, because the way they've done

the Matrix set. I mean, I think the season 2

and season, that's all done. Like, they have

it the way they have it. Design wise yes, because

what is what what is possessed inside those the

matrix DVD box set is the individual sets Yes

themselves and they even say like season one

special features season two special features

season three special features Okay. All right.

It's like a box in a box. I guess is the best

way to put it, right? I still want that Everyone

does but there is three there's three specific

DVDs full of special features So what didn't

you want to talk about the Skywarp Gary? Okay,

well, I mean, you know talk about me I don't

I don't know anything about it and I'm not trying

to open up any link Okay. Okay. Sure Basically,

he's he comes with his Decepticon logos on him

and his stripes on his wings to be g1 accurate

As you as we know we don't use stickers too much

anymore. I don't know if he comes with a sticker

sheet I don't believe the Starscream did the

Walmart one there were all Tampa logos on him

Looks to be this look looks to be the same with

Skywarp What I will say the only thing that's

changed on the US version is the wingtips The

wingtips are not pointy now which other than

that. It's the exact same toy. I mean Even as

it even has the evil grin so they actually did

use the actual sky warp mold They didn't use

the starship which line is for though Masterpiece.

Oh, okay. Cool Yeah, it's it's it's the same

size of Starscream obviously Thundercracker,

you know But it's it's the first domestic release

besides Starscream that we've had and it's Skywarp

So hopefully, you know somewhere down the line

or next year you get the if you miss out in the

US I got the Japanese versions myself. I did

pick up the US Starscream having Although I will

say having the Takara version or Takara told

me version of the masterpiece skywarp There's

really not enough to warrant me to like this

unless you really like the sand food logos on

On your figures. I mean they came with stickers.

I chose not to apply them So he looks like a

black jet, you know, I just didn't apply my stickers

to mine and he's in robot mode So it's it's really

your personal preference there, but I mean he

looks really good in the packaging. That's the

one thing I will say as far as the US releases

of Masterpiece have always been window boxes

where you can see the figure in its robot mode.

That's always been a Japanese thing though, almost

99 .9 % of Japanese product when it's sold. in

stores that never has windows ever right right

anything whether it be like the armada stuff

in japan's you know energon it's always in a

box that usually hiding it um... that's a recent

year if we had all the topics that we were said

we were going to hit i think so alright i think

i think we have like five or six topics on honor

of that i'm gonna play this Can anybody tell

me who that was? I heard Porky Pig at one point.

No? It played the last part of the clip on the

board. Are you serious? All right, let's try

this. Is that any better? You have an echo on

your playback. Yeah, that reverb's like crazy.

Yeah, it was six of them. Yeah, it definitely

was six of them. That's for sure It's got to

be this headset this headset sucks Shut up, I'm

agreeing So we're gonna go to a quick break and

then we're gonna do the closing we'll be right

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Actually before we actually do the the rest of

the closing I wanted to bring up something for

Proto Man to talk about the Rodimus TFA figure

What would you like to know? How awesome it is?

How much I love it? How much that I'm going to

buy probably a case of six like I did with the

Henkei? I was going to say, what was your first

initial impression when you first saw it? Did

you fall out of it? Well, again, I guess for

the two that don't know the story and the listeners

who listen to this version of the podcast, how

I found out about this figure was this BotCon,

I was stupid enough not to go. I was busy that

entire week. There was a lot of other factors.

uh... and uh... you know i guess also the pasadena

trip i said because when i go to bach dot i'd

buy too much stuff everybody at and see yeah

and to get back from pasadena with all of that

stuff would be pretty crazy i mean just the exclusives

alone that i would buy and then like the two

thousand dollars of merchandise that we would

also i just thought you know what i i could survive

without going this year i have friends going

anyways they'll pick me up the exclusives at

least i'll get those and that's that i did get

those But what happened was the Saturday of BotCon,

around 8 PM, I was sitting in my room, just tapping

away on the computer. I wasn't looking at the

news. I was working on other stuff. I was with

my girlfriend. And I get a text message. I look

at the text message, and it's from Derek Wyatt.

And it's Derek Wyatt, and there's an attachment

on the text message. And it's an image. And I

open up the image, and it's a picture of Derek

Wyatt in his hotel room. Holding animated Rodimus

with this kind of like koi face and the caption

under it said jealous bitch And at first I couldn't

really make out what he was holding But I was

like it looks like hot rod what the hell and

then I went online and gog -dog Who's one of

the guys on TFW did a whole photo shoot of an

animated Rodimus and that's of course when I

lost my cookies But between, and that toy, like

seriously, first of all, to give you guys an

idea of how tall it's gonna be, because Derek

Wye gave me a pretty detailed description, he's

gonna be about the same size as animated jazz,

in terms of height. So he's not gonna be a short

figure. And just the engineering and attention

to detail that has been put into this toy is

absolutely incredible. I mentioned this on another

podcast that for years, we've always been kind

of confused of where we put that engine block

with the hot rod when he transforms. With the

original G1 toy, it went on the back of his head.

With the classics toy, they just left it on his

chest. With other toys, they just don't put the

engine at all. They just kind of ignore as if

it's not even there. With this one, they did

a clever gimmick of like it flipping over and

making an auto. robot logo to conceal it completely.

It's just, it's a gorgeous looking toy. And for

the longest time, I revered the Henkei Rodimus,

which is the Japanese version of the Classics

Rodimus, as the perfect Rodimus toy. But when

this one comes out, oh man, I don't even know.

This thing is absolutely gorgeous. It's incredible.

Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. I have nothing

to say. I'm speechless. Exactly. You know in

between that and the RC figure that they're gonna

be doing I want these toys now. I don't want

to wait, you know Hasbro would be foolish not

to release these and granted the show is over

But you know what people will buy these should

release them under the animated line They should

not release them under any other line other than

if they can I can see it being in universe It's

been it's been done already where there has been

some animated legends toys in the universe line

already. So If if need be if it has to be universe

toy make it so I don't care I just want this

damn figure, you know, oh, yeah I don't care

what it takes if it has to be under the frickin

movie line, you know Revenge of the Fallen Animated

Rodimus, I don't care, you know make it happen,

you know because this thing incredible yes the

RC's amazing too I will give you that all the

other ones that they had planned in the Raptors

I'm looking forward to those also those are great

looking toys too but that Rodimus my goodness

that Rodimus has the I think actually all of

the animated figures have the most detail other

than blur which I've got blur sitting right here

because we talked about him in Toycast episode

On almost every other figure that I have from

animated is a car I see no door handles even

on Rodimus I mean the door handle is very clearly

visible. There's a gas cap There's you know,

there's there's little attentions to detail everywhere.

It's it's incredible It is and my biggest my

biggest question is again, which I always love

about animated It's how you get from one mode

to the next I'm really curious what little twists

and turns they're gonna put this time around

Because, man, you look at his legs, where the

hell did the kibble go? They do a great job of

hiding that. Yes, very much so. So I'm, it's

a, yeah. But anyways, I guess we got to end the

show. I'm not going to gush about this toy. Well,

in honor of your, I will play this. In the immortal

words of Optimus Prime, I am TFG1 Mike, and this

has been a special ATTF SDCC talk. And Optimus

Prime always says, say goodbye everybody. Hey

guys, what's going on? You are locked into the

TFG1 podcast. I'm Mike Captain Awesome Dodd,

and if you aren't listening to this podcast,

clearly you are a Decepticon douchebag.