Transformers: Dark of the Moon Teaser Review

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the voice actors? I want to be in front of them.

Or to the side of them. Oh god. That's horrible.

It's not going to sound good. Cowabunga. I made

another funny. What? This is all things Transformers?

I thought it was all things turtles. My bad.

Yes. So, uh, what have you guys been up to lately?

Mike. Oh, well. Rat bastard. You rat bastard.

Springer wannabe. I thought it was Duke. Can

you make up your mind? This is not freaking GI

Joe. This is Transformers. There's a difference.

Anyways, I've just been podcasting. As of this

recording, I finished up with the twig crew.

We finished up our holiday 2010 gift guide, so

that'll be out coming up this week. Tunecast

83 is out. Tunecast 84 is recorded, and we're

recording 85 this Saturday. What else? Secret

Origins is still on hold. I seriously doubt we're

gonna finish that show by Groundhog's Day 2011.

Beast Unleashed finished, which I know Steve

is very sad about. Don't worry, Megatron will

still get to tap things in the future. That sound

is perverted. Hey, Megatron can tap the other

Megatron. Why would I tap a Megatron when I can

hit for Blackarachnia? Oh boy. No spider rape,

not good. Dragonon spider. I have a big head.

It's a good thing. It's a good thing Megatron

never crossed over into Shrek because Dragon

and Donkey. Drunkies. Oh goodness. I guarantee

I will eat the donkey. Okay, so yeah, Transformers.

Giant robots, yes. Is that what we're supposed

to be talking about? That's crazy. Who talks

about Transformers? especially in today's age.

Anyways, recently we had the Transformers 3 movie

trailer, teaser trailer come out earlier, I believe,

this week or this last weekend? Yeah, it was

last weekend. Yes. It's just blend together.

Yes, the days do. But what did you guys think

of the really short Showing nothing trailer.

Hey now. No, I'm gonna go first because otherwise

Mike's gonna skip me again I don't know you always

get me The trailer I thought it was an interesting

take though I thought that's something completely

unique to actually use like like that I mean,

I know it's been done in different ways in different

films, but To use the actual space footage almost.

I mean, I know it's not the exact footage or

whatnot, but basically to redo that whole moment

so it's almost like you're watching the actual

space first step on the moon, et cetera, and

then to go right into this Transformers thing

and show an unidentified ship and unidentified

Transformer. I know it leaves a lot of questions

and it didn't show a lot, but I thought it was

kind of cool just the way the trailer was put

together. That's what I thought. I have to rip

this thing to shreds. Oh, Jesus. My main problem

is the overall live -action movie continuity.

It was a two -minute trailer. What the hell are

you talking about? I know, but if you look at

this and you look at what they're doing with

Dark of the Moon or Dark Side of the Moon or

whatever the hell they're calling the damn thing,

Pink Floyd should so sue Michael Bay in Paramount.

Anyways, um... But we don't know what they're

doing with it yet. Yeah, it's gonna be featured

during the space race. The whole Kennedy thing

of... We know that much, but we don't know anything

else. Exactly, we don't know exactly the whole

film, but what I'm hoping is that this whole

space race part is the beginning of the film,

like, previous to the existing continuity, because

if it's set in the time that the space race happens,

they're throwing out both continuities of the

previous two films. Yeah. I can see where it

could still fit in there. The Fallen obviously

takes place hundreds of thousands of years in

the past. Megatron takes place in pretty much

the 1800s. This would be the most recent reoccurrence

before they magically show back up into the 2000s.

This could very well be a flashback to begin

the thing to show how a certain ship or a certain

transformer was introduced and then they could

easily go right into current. present -day continuity

let's hope that they do that because if they

don't do that it's gonna ruin the entire continuity

of the previous two films not not Not that that's

a bad thing with the second film cuz fuck that

movie second I'm hoping for the sake of Michael

Bay and everybody involved that uh they actually

learned from their mistakes in the second movie

and first for the most part well the first one

wasn't that bad I could get past some of the

stupidity in the first movie For instance, Bumblebee

pissing on Simmons was something that could be

overlooked compared to the shit that we got in

the second movie. So I'm hoping that they surpassed

the first film. However, the space race thing

is an interesting take on the continuity and

seeing some new bots introduced. The only question

it leaves you is, what is the ship and who is

that magical robot that lights up at the end?

And some of the suggestions by Transformers fans

just reinforce the fact that a lot of the Transformer

fandom are idiots. Yeah. There's a lot of that

in the chat. What was the rampant here? I'm trying

to think of what the stupidest person that I

heard someone say that that... was possibly.

I heard somebody say it was shockwave and I was

like, are you sure you think you're going to

make shockwave have a face? Yeah. You know, I

get the whole vector prime or alpha trion or

some of those types of suggestions or whatever.

Some of those would make sense. I got those vibes

from it as well, so I could see where that could

be correct. But I heard someone say that it was

possibly Cosmos. I'm like, really? That's ridiculous.

The dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

The reason why it wouldn't be Shockwave, though,

is because it was revealed earlier that isn't

he supposed to be the big bad guy in this one?

He's supposed to be in this one, but it doesn't

look anything like Shockwave to me. Exactly,

yeah. I mean, I know a lot of them don't sound

or look like him, but he has an old look. It

almost looks like he has a Like a machine beard

And he does have the metal things on his head

making a V I Don't know if that's symbolic or

not Or if it's a hint that it might be vector

prime or if it's just to show he's older I mean

he looks in the face like he's an older transformer

Yeah, that could be right I mean, I don't know

I could definitely see an alpha trend five. Yeah.

Yeah, I could too His face reminds me of Alpha

Trion. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't be a

hundred percent surprised if he was a prime of

some sort, but my guess would be Alpha Trion.

Well, I know this isn't true, but what if it

was Cryo Tech? Somebody slap me. What? No, okay,

but alright, but that's not a stupid idea. That's

just a funny idea. I mean, a stupid idea is Cosmos.

I mean, come on. Yeah, what if it was RoboCop?

They've already done the Fallen, which is supposedly

Megatron's master. They've just basically keeled

over and Megatron's like, I'm pussified, goodbye!

Starscream is pretty much the same. I mean, they've

already leaked that Starscream is supposed to

bite the bucket in this one. That's never a good

thing to do, bite the bucket. Yes. I have a feeling

he'll get replaced by Shockwave, which... Again,

will be another Starscream dynamic, which will

be underutilized. They should have introduced

Shaq Waive earlier. Or a lot of these characters,

even if they weren't going to use them. Instead

of it's like, hey, new movie, hey, we need to

sell some more toys. Hey, here's a guy that we've

never seen before and he's all of a sudden important.

Kind of like what they did with The Fallen and

so on. A lot of this movie I'm very skeptical

about. I'm still going to see it. I'm not thrilled

with the fact that the entire movie is in 3D.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they actually

did a good job with it because it's going to

be something completely different as far as 3D

goes. Whereas in a lot of movies you have 3D

done because you have actors working in front

of blue screens. This one's 3D with live action

backgrounds and scenery and stuff like that,

so it'll be interesting to see how that... kind

of translates or works or doesn't work one way

or the other. It's kind of like, you know, obviously

3D is in its infancy as far as being involved.

And so far I've seen some 3D movies that are

just amazing from a visual standpoint. Whether

the story is good or not, Avatar is freaking

amazing to look at in a 3D standpoint. But then

stuff like Clash of the Titans was completely

crap 3D wise. I mean, I'm not talking about a

review of the movie, but the 3D aspects of it

really sucked. So hopefully they don't cut corners

and make bad 3d And from what they're talking

about I can they're saying it's supposed to be

good which you know They always say it's gonna

be great, you know and that's up to the fans

to decide upon release but As far as the 3d like

I'm not thrilled with it just because it's another

way for them to charge more for your damn movie

ticket which is why they're all doing it right

now. I don't really care if it's in 3D or not.

I mean, honestly, there's not really anything

that enticing to me about 3D. I don't really

care for it. I would rather see an IMAX and better

footage in an IMAX, more detail there than something

that jumps out at me. That makes sense. I can

kind of see why they're doing the 3D thing, but

I think it's more so just because they're pulling

this gimmick out of their ass. Well, they can

charge more for it and etc. It breaks in more

ticket sales and then they have to use these

magical glasses and fuck up your vision. Make

us all zombies. Yes, all of us will become zombies.

We'll find out that later. The Red Dead Redemption

of Transformers. I would not be surprised in

the least if this new movie had zombies. Well,

at least we could tie it to Transformers Prime

then. Would you actually want to? No. I hope

that doesn't happen. I don't know, as far as

the movie going experience and the whole 3D thing,

3D is a fad that will go away. It was out in

the 80s and it went away fairly quickly. It's

going to go away again. Hopefully. I think so.

My only thing is, for me personally, I don't

go to the theater anymore. First of all, the

closest theater to me is one bus right away,

and it has extremely small seats. The other theater

that's close to me is two bus rides away, and

I'm a lazy bastard, and the last time I went

out there, and Steve can attest to this, last

time I went out there I didn't know that the

bus schedule had changed and the stops had changed,

so I literally had to walk a mile and a half

from the bus stop to the fucking theater to see

fucking Revenge of the Fucking Fallen. Worst

fucking movie ever. No, it wasn't. And if it

wasn't for Iron Man 2 coming out this year, I

wouldn't have gone to see another movie in the

theater after I saw Revenge of the Fallen, because

I had such a horrible time. You're too critical

of that, I'm sorry. Well, I did see Iron Man

2 in the theater, not to get off topic with Transformers.

I did not pay for Transformers Revenge of the

Fallen, and I did see it. I'm not getting into

detail of how I managed that. We know. It's okay

behind the scenes we know It has to do with a

certain re -release of movies, and then they

put these magical stickers on them Yeah, it's

in the legs well, and I don't feel like I should

be a Jewed like that to buy the movie again just

to get a free ticket Yeah, plus the movie sucked

so That's another reason why I didn't really

care to pay for it. I mean, seriously, when Paramount

and Michael Bay handed this over to Hasbro for

final approval, Hasbro probably looked at it

and said, oh great, now we have to make toys

with giant Devastator balls. Which they did.

I do not need to see... John Titoro is a great,

great actor. I do not need to see his ass on

the big fucking screen. I don't know, this time

they'll have his genitals hanging out and it'll

be in 3D. Stop putting ideas in Michael Bay's

head. So, I have the idea. About the ship. The

ship looks kind of, I don't know, it looks obviously

like very spiky on the outside. I don't really

know how to describe it. I mean there's not really

anything we've seen like this comparatively.

The inside, it just looks like a total wreck

other than that one robot that you can see that

lights up. So is it the Ark? I don't know if

I'd call it the Ark, but I'd at least say it's

an Autobot shuttle because the robot did not

look Decepticon in origin. Yeah, he definitely

has an Autobot feel to him. Yeah, I mean he's

got brighter colors and Decepticons have that

more, I don't know... Gangly look to them. I

don't think it's big enough to be the arc That's

why I'm thinking it's kind of like a just a shuttle

I Mean the other thing we could possibly you

know think of is it could be either the nemesis

of the dark side But again, like Steve said it

doesn't look like a Decepticon ship Yeah, it'd

be nice if we got a nemesis or or dark side or

hell What if it what if not saying that this

is true or anything? Obviously, we're just speculating

What if it's the Axelon? I doubt it. I know,

I know, but what I'm saying is it could be any

of those four things. We don't know. It's most

likely going to be the Ark, but it just doesn't

look big enough to be the Ark. But it could be.

You know, obviously it wouldn't surprise me if

they made something that wasn't how we would

expect it to look or whatever. That's very true.

It's typical Transformers for you. No, it's typical

Michael Bay. He doesn't listen to the damn fans.

So He listens to the money. Yeah What he's being

paid to do is make a movie and make money and

he made a shit ton of money for a trip for Transformers

So so I can see his point of view at the same

time. He's not keeping true to it either so I

mean he doesn't really care in my in what I think

because He's done after this film Yeah, he could

give two shits what people think about this film

now, or in ten, twenty years he cares that he's

making a shit ton of money, he's gonna make it

while he can, and then he could give two shits

about the franchise. And see, that's the fucking

problem. You needed somebody in there like him

who had the big name contacts, who could do all

the military stuff, but also cared about the

property. Yeah. Although, I will say that I am

more optimistic about this film than I have been

about any of the three, just because of... interviews

that the actors have given and Some of the other

behind -the -scenes people besides Michael Bay.

Yeah shy of a bitch Why do you hate on him so

much? Because I gotta be honest. I don't really

care for him that much either. I understand not

caring for him but I just saw, and this is totally

off topic, I've been meaning to bring this up

to Kevin, but this past weekend, USA ran a Indiana

Jones film series marathon, and I finally saw

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, Shia LaBeach.

That kid fucking sucks. I don't think he's that

bad. Um, but anyways, but from what they're saying,

I mean, everybody says it's going to be better

and you should actually like Shy because he's

the one that stood up to Bay and said you're

a jackass, basically. And that's fine. I'm just

saying his acting in these movies sucks. It's

not necessarily it sucks. It's just that he's

got the same type of personality and everything

he's in. So it kind of... If they turn him, if

they find a way to actually call him Spike and

obviously the... the Victoria's Secrets model's

character name is Carly. If they find a way to

turn him into Spike and he changed, that the

character's attitude changes compared to the

first two films, then I'll be fine with it. Until,

imagine about him, you're hating how he's written,

so you can't really hate on the boof. It's possible

that they may write him more grown up, so he

seems more like Spike, and then give him the

nickname of Spike. Yeah, I like that they're

calling the chick Carly. I think that's a cool

potential. That is a nice nod. And she's a blonde,

so. Yeah, but I mean, you're hating the character

as he's written in these movies. He's playing

his role perfectly, and he's acting it actually

well. You're just not liking the typecast character

as it's been written by multiple people here.

No, you want to talk a bad acting performance,

you look at Megan Fox. Yeah, that was actually

bad. She's gone though, so we don't have to worry

about her. I mean, Shia's not doing a bad job

from an acting standpoint. No, that goes to that

other kid in Revenge of the Fallen, whatever

is fucking legal. I just think with the amount

of heat that he got after the second film from

not just reviewers and stuff, but from the actual

people involved in the movie, that maybe he changed

a little bit and everyone else, and it's not

just Shia, it's Josh and... EPS and all those

guys, they're all saying that this is actual

better, that there's actual character development,

that there's an actual somewhat of a better plot.

Maybe not a great plot, but a better one. So

that's why I'm a little optimistic. I mean, it

could be a complete crap fest, but I'm optimistic.

Well, yeah, your name is optimus solo So you

can if they continue their trend of letting the

the transformers actually talk more like they

did in the second one I will appreciate that

see that see that's the thing that that's my

main I mean, yes transformers to did do that

a lot more but honestly, they need to approach

and I know Michael Bay wants to make it accessible

for you know the The main movie going audience

But if you're gonna have Sam Sam and Carly in

in their scenes and you're gonna have the military

in their scenes That's fine. You can have like

maybe one insular a scene with the parents But

don't involve them throughout the whole fucking

story. I like the dad though I like the parents

don't get me wrong. I do but I agree They shouldn't

be a major part of the story what I'm saying

is Less human interaction, more robots. Right,

that's what I've been calling for from the beginning,

and that's why I like parts of the second one

better than the first one. To me, the bad parts

of the second one are worse than the bad parts

of the first one, but the good parts of the second

one are better than the good parts of the first

one. So that's kind of why I like the second

one, because it had less to do with the humans

than the first one did. I mean, I know there's

some shitty parts, but hopefully the third one

can kind of find a balance. not be as bad as

the other two in certain ways and be better than

the other two in certain ways, so we'll see.

I will say that it's a good thing that there

is no writer's strike right now. What'd you say,

Mike? Oh, the writer's strike, yeah. I said,

I think it's a good thing that there is no writer's

strike now. Yeah. But honestly, whether it's

good or bad, I'm gonna go watch it, and even

if it's bad, I still have Transformers Prime

to fall back on. Yeah, I just, like I said before,

it's not just because of a run to the phone,

but it's just because of my travel limitations.

I don't go to theaters anymore, so I'm just going

to wait until it gets on DVD. Yeah. Nothing wrong

with that. Yes. And the other news that we have,

Transformers the movie draft script. Jim Sorensen,

genuine piece of Generation 1 Transformers history,

Jim Sorensen put up... a piece of ron friedman's

script actually the whole script up on his blog

uh... decibels of all tax uh... for people to

take a look at and while it is this is one of

the earlier versions it's not the very first

version of the transformers the movie missus

except but there's a lot of differences in here

yet that was something that you wanna any transformers

mansion download and give it a weekend reader

a lunch break read or something like that because

it definitely has some cool, I mean a lot of

it we already kind of knew was there as far as

the darker tones, the more killing, the more

violence, the more Transformers deaths, but the

difference between who dies and who survives

and stuff, it's definitely worth a read. I haven't

read it in its entirety, but I definitely will

be. Yes. What do you think, Steve? I do think

that the script is... Uh, interesting from what

I have skimmed over it so far. I don't know how

much of it I'm going to actually read. Uh, just

mostly because one, I don't have time, and two,

I just don't... It's really long. And two, I

don't really care because some of it, just from

what I've skimmed over, looks retarded. I mean,

they've got a third moon, they've got, they call,

uh, basically Unicron, they call him the Gobbler

or something similar to that. The Ingestor. It's

just stupid. They introduced the Sparks, which

is Beast Wars all the way, so I'm fine with that.

Some of the aspects of it are just stupid. To

be honest, it's nice if you want a little piece

of Transformers history, but it's practically

unneeded at this point because we have the movie

that was meant to be. It's just kind of one of

those things that doesn't really matter anymore.

Well, the only thing I find interesting is that

I can skim over all the stupid parts because

I just like the aspects of the original ideas

of who was going to die and who was going to

live. That's the part that interests me. I want

to see what was going to happen because obviously

there's so many G1 characters that we are left

knowing nothing about because they either don't

appear in the movie or they just disappear at

some point. So it is kind of nice to see if they

would have had time, what was the original plans

for some of them. your favorite season one and

two transformers. What happened to Wheeljack?

What was their plan with that? What was some

of those guys doing? What was Windcharger doing?

What was Mirage doing? That type of stuff. Like

you said Kevin, it's a nice piece of Transformers

history to be able to have or be able to see

because we've heard on the 20th anniversary DVD

of, you know, we've heard all the stories of

the previous scripts, but we've never actually

physically seen one. We've seen deleted storyboards

and stuff like that, so we had hints at certain

things, but we've never actually seen them from

a script standpoint, so that's kind of cool.

And I love the deleted storyboards. I actually

used to spend some time actually bringing color

to them and all that and shading them so they

actually look like they were in the movie, but

that was a long time ago. And I think finally

we're going to talk about the masterpiece MP09

Rodimus Convoy. Someone had done a video of the

figure. I've seen this. Notice they're not doing

an MP 11 Springer or anything like that. It's

always optimus and Rodimus and Megatron and Starscream.

It's never fucking Springer the worst Transformer

G1 history. You're a moron. Anyways This toy

is gonna be amazing. No, it's not. Yes it is

Honestly, I don't really care about Rodimus all

that much. I could give two shits less about

the toys Think the one thing I think that I like

about it is that they're finally giving him a

good like actual scale as far as the size of

Him because it seems like every time they do

a Rodimus toy. They either make them way too

big or way too small Especially on the small

side. So it's kind of nice that they're giving

them a decent size, but I'm just not a fan of

any of the masterpiece or none Any of the lines

that you can't find it like your local target.

I'm not a fan of You don't like masterpiece toys.

Are you serious? Yeah, because I don't I don't

like that there I don't like stuff that you have

to especially get through some company or some

online thing or this Well, I mean ordering through

big bed toy store is not that bad. I mean, I

know I'm just anti that Well, you need to get

with the fucking times not everything is gonna

be at Target. Oh, then it should be a Walmart

or Toys R Us or something. Well, there are gonna

be two versions of Masterpiece Rodimus There's

gonna be the Japanese version which comes with

everything and then there's gonna be the Toys

R Us version which is comes with everything except

the trailer it comes with a few alternate things

uh... than what the japanese version comes out

with uh... i'd prefer to just get the masterpiece

japanese version if it's gonna come with everything

uh... that's what i would prefer there's no way

in hell that i would go to the toy store and

say oh masterpiece rodimus without the trailer

oh i'm gonna spend sixty bucks on that figure

screw that how do you really feel though it's

friggin stupid I don't disagree with you. I mean

if you're gonna have... I just hate you. I'm

just kidding. Hey Steve. Yes. Can we kick him

off the network now? No. Good try. Anyways, um,

yeah. I just wish February would hurry up and

get here. More Transformers Prime. That would

definitely be cool. I would be up for that. I

definitely like Transformers Prime. And I am

looking forward to more of it. Although I am

satisfied with watching G .I. Joe Renegades while

I wait. I have to agree as well. Well, this isn't

a G .I. Joe show, but Renegades just doesn't.

And again, I'm not really a Joe fan. I don't

dislike it, but it's... How many episodes have

you watched? Two and a half. I watched them all.

I think actually the last two or three episodes

have been better than the first couple. Because

they're starting to introduce characters and

whatnot. It's getting pretty good story -wise.

It's not Transformers related, but it's cool

nonetheless, and it's still kind of a tie -in

in some ways. Yeah. Well, there's always the

connection between certain characters that made

crossovers in the original two series. Yeah.

Cold War Commander and Starscream. Hector Ramirez

and Flint. You guys know that Flint was in Transformers,

right? Yes. Okay. Fair point. Yeah. Well, yeah,

I mean, Fairborn, but Flint himself wasn't in

Transformers. That's him, that's him. No. Yeah,

it is. No, it isn't. Okay. We need to go back

and re -watch that episode, sir. Anyway. So,

is there anything else we want to bring up? except

for that you can go all the voice compares at

BehindTheVoiceActors .com for the Transformers

characters that were involved in Transformers

Prime, have the Transformers Prime clip added

to them so you can go vote again. So do that.

Uh huh. Yes. You must go there. Go and vote.

Let your voice be heard. Do the voice compares

as well. Or not do the voice compares, do the

voice this. Yeah, show off your voice talents.

Yes. Yeah, behind the voice actors needs new

voice talents. Yes, some of them have gotten

quite stale. Stagnant. Yes. There is, however.

Wow, that was annoying. There is, however, for

those interested that follow it, there's a Beast

Wars fan video. that will, well not out out,

but we've gotten the casting finalized. It's

just, it will be revealed in a video of the characters

specifically moving their face to the actual

audition files. So stay tuned for that as well.

That would be very, very cool. Yes. And I get

to play a special role, uh, introing people,

which will be the shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. Yes,

it will be very cool. Cool. They don't really

have anything else. I'm sure Mike has something

smart to say. Yes, I know. He's probably going

to comment on the fact that he doesn't agree

that Flint was in... Shut up. Because he is.

Anyway. Surprisingly, he played the same character

in Family Guy as well as G .I. Joe and Transformers.

Well, Family Guy sucks. Bill Ratner is the shit.

Well, that may be, but Family Guy still sucks.

Family Guy's pretty darn cool, actually. No,

Family Guy sucks. Depends on the episodes. It's

a poor Simpsons ripoff. No, it's not even a Simpsons

ripoff. It took enough jokes from the Simpsons

and did them poorly. It makes fun of the Simpsons,

if that's what you mean. They poke fun at each

other. Anyways. Megatron, why don't you close

the show before we get into another argument?

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew. I don't

know what else to say. I guess watch or listen

to all of the beast unleashed. That's it? Go

fuck yourself. Excellent. Yes. I wish to speak

to my lawyer.