Transformers Toy News and Prime Series Preview

Hi, this is Larry DiTilio, writer for He -Man

and Beast Wars, and you are listening to the

Geekcast Radio Network. You're listening to All

Things Transformers, episode 53, recorded Tuesday,

November 16th, 2010. Transformers episode 53.

I'm your host Steve Vegatron Phillips and joining

me as always is... DFJ and Mike, hello. Hello.

And our special guest again joining us is...

Oh, I'm special and I'm also off to bottomless.

Hello. I find it very funny that we've gone with

them a month without doing one of these shows.

The last show we did was October 20th. Well,

I thought strange weren't you just telling me

just before the show that You've been busy doing

so many podcasts that you can't even know for

other shows I mean, dude, we're spending at least

three or four hours talking about Star Wars films.

So that takes up a lot of time. Oh Yeah, so There's

a lot of crap to talk about with those exactly

So what have you been up to, Steve? I've been

working on a Beast Wars fan project of Darkglass.

The fan version is based on a comic done by fans

back in like 2000. Currently doing the voice

cast for that. I haven't gotten any new auditions

lately, so I think I've pretty much cemented

who my cast is going to be. Although I'm coming

close to stealing some others away just because

I think I can do the voice better and I'm having

the guy that's actually running the production

judge mine in comparison with the other people

for that specific role. Right. That way it's

fair. Because I could so self -cast myself as

like half the characters. We should do it. I

thought about it, except that would be wrong.

Yeah, that would be very wrong. I do it. I'm

tempted. It's horrible, but I'm tempted. On the

other side, I am revamping PredaconEmpire .com.

Yes, you are. Yes, and I am going to streamline

a lot of it. I notice a lot of the pages have

random logos at the top. So none of it's uniform

with the current main page. And I still have

to add a few other new things to the main site,

but I'm mostly going to just kind of slim down

the site, make it a little bit easier to update

frequently. And I will be featuring your toy

reviews, Octobotamus. Me? Yes. Oh, I'd like to

thank the Academy. And all the fans had voted

and um, of course God Actually, you can probably

shun all the fans that didn't vote Don't even

get me started on that. That'll be a tangent.

That'll be a whole that'll pick up the whole

show Good job, sir See, see, I almost, I almost,

I almost fit. I almost fit and I almost ran with

it, so I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just shut up.

But um, I don't know. I would just like to say

no. Okay, sorry. I'm done being an asshole. Hardly.

I've been a massive one to certain people lately,

so it's, and they're not online. Yes. Anyways,

uh, and I think that's pretty much it. Anybody

interested in joining and helping for the Predacon

Empire revamp or ideas, send me an email. Podcast

at PredaconEmpire .com. Starscreams are not allowed.

No ghosts either. We're trying to avoid Starscream

and all versions of his ghost form. That's good.

That's smooth. What have you been up to, Paul?

Prime targets. God. What have I been up to? Wedding

planning. I actually have been pretty knee deep

in crap for that. Let's see. I'd rather be knee

deep in cake than crap. Well, the problem is

my fiancé doesn't like cake very much. So instead

of having a wedding cake, she has had this tremendous

idea to have a very large wedding cookie. Oh

my god. That's like heaven to me. Yeah, I mean

imagine imagine a cookie if you will that needs

to be big enough to be able to be distributed

amongst like 200 people. This is going to be

the mother of all cookies. That would be awesome.

Why am I envisioning? Bruce saying and that's

the way the cookie crumbles because you're a

retard I Got the reference but the fact that

you reference Bruce Almighty is pretty departed

I don't have a giant Dairy Queen ice cream cake

Because I honestly think it's it's done because

she does not want me to embarrass her right pushing

any food into her face. And a giant Dairy Queen...

something would probably still facilitate me

throwing it into her face. Just because I am

an asshole, and I would do that. Well, you could

still do the same thing with a cookie. You could

do that with a friggin' pizza. I mean, it doesn't

matter what you get for a wedding. Cookie's not

gonna even, I mean... I could do it, but then

it'll probably break her nose or something because

it's hard. Duh. But she says she doesn't like

cake, although I've seen her eat cake many times.

So I think she's just hoping that I'm gonna be

a typical dude and forget things that she's done

in our relationship. Well, I remember her eating

birthday cake with me last year on my birthday.

She's full of crap, I know it. So there's that,

which that's occupying a lot of my uses of my

credit card recently. What else? Since this is

the first time that I've spoken about this, pretend

nudge nudge, wink wink. Nobody else knows about

this, but we're talking about here that I am

now part of this new forum not to, you know,

undermine the whole credit count, you know, that

whole thing. Dude, are you kidding me? You don't

even have to worry about undermining it. PE is

dead. That's why Steve has to revamp it. But

as far as our forum goes, our forum is just dead.

Oh, well, the new one that I'm working with is

toynova .com. And I've been unfortunately dealing

with that on my off... time in between trying

to do my regular work and you know it's amazing.

I've been actually engaged to my fiance for over

a year and we just finally now sat down and set

a date and now that it's actually less than a

year away, everything seems to be getting cramped

and it's like there's not enough time to do all

this crap. Oh it gets busier. Oh, I can imagine.

I can imagine. But other than that, that's all

that's really new with me, sir. Yes. And as far

as I go, let's see. Crap. I don't even remember

now. Just podcasting like usual. He's alive.

Creating new show ideas, stuff like that. Ew.

That's why he did the... Stop tapping on my toes,

you asshat. Why would I want to tap your toes?

Anyways, I'm in podcasting a lot. We've got a

bunch of cool stuff coming up for GeekCast Radio.

Hopefully... This coming because I'm assuming

that Steve is gonna put this out before Thursday

of this week Hopefully a Thursday night Kevin

Thompson, and I will be interviewing a certain

Cartoon celebrity which I'm not going to reveal

here, but I will tell people later Do I know

do I know no? Did you is it is it um? He who

has never replied your emails Oh, no, no, no.

Don't even get me started. That's kind of like

your contest thing. You don't want to get that

started. Gotcha, gotcha. Carry on. Oh, this is

somebody else. This interview is specifically

for Kevin because his birthday is the 23rd this

month. Oh, my birthday's the 24th. So I'm basically

just being a cheap bastard because last year

I got him an original 80s vintage panther because

he never had one before. So now I'm just being

a cheap bastard and getting him an interview

with a certain celebrity. Wait, who are you doing

this for? My buddy Kevin that does Tooncast with

me. How come what? You got him the vintage Masters

of the Universe, what? Panther. How come you

haven't got me anything, asshole? Because I didn't

know you last year, asshole. Well, you have nine

days to get me something. Asshole? Yeah, since

we're throwing assholes all over the place. Okay,

so we have got a few new nose items yikes nose

you news items here Last time we talked about

generations cup. We had just had like one initial

image now There's like a whole gallery on TFW

So what do we think of generations cup Okay Like

Not just, but a runny. Steve, do you need farting

noises in that voiceover thing? No. Are you sure?

Come on, I can do a really good part. I think

the head's the best looking part. I think I completely

agree with that. I like him overall. I said,

and that's the end of that discussion. Well,

I like him overall. I think the only thing I

don't like about him is that he basically painted

Blur's sniper gun gray and gave it the cup. That's

your biggest problem with the figure? Yeah. You

are a retard. What? And the part of his chest

looks like it goes to him, but the rest of them

just kind of looks... There's too much kibble.

There's it's it's so kibbly. It's it's horrible.

Okay vehicle mode. I think he looks fine I think

it's I think that's a nice homage of sorts to

the original g1 version of him and the head looks

fantastic except I'm never a big fan of robots

with open mouths because It's not hollow. It

kind of looks weird when it's open and there's

plastic in there and it's like that's weird to

me But once you get from the neck down, I just

think it looks like, the more I look at it, the

more I dislike it. I like it for what it is.

My question would be, would they package this

in vehicle or robot mode? Because it seems like

they're doing like really, really awesome robot

modes and then really crappy vehicle modes, kind

of like War for Cybertron, Megatron, which all

the War for Cybertron toys are packaged in robot

mode. So I'm wondering. Does Hasbro Like do they

put more money into either mode as far as what

it's gonna be packaged as Like like would they

give us a really really awesome robot mode and

a really crappy vehicle mode if it was gonna

be packaged in robot mode Yeah I'm actually trying

to think I was I don't remember I was looking

at eBay yesterday And I couldn't find any pictures

or any auctions for him. But there was a, you

know, like, what's the guy's name? Cliffjumper

is packaged in robot mode as you made reference

to the War for Cybertron toys are all like that.

Right. Who's the other one? Jazz is packaged

in vehicle mode. Yeah. And then who's the other

one that I saw? Traxx is packaged in vehicle

mode. Yeah. Well, I mean, jazz and tracks, those

are awesome figures in both modes. I really don't

have any complaints about either one of those.

Tracks is probably something I can wait on, but

I'd like to have a jazz eventually. I honestly

think that cup will probably be packaged in Viola

mode just for the hell of it. I think the Viola

mode looks pretty nice on them. It so does. But

that but then it's like somebody exploded One

of those um, I don't know if they do it anymore.

I'm like on fox When they used to do the nfl

on fox they used to have like robots that would

come out and they would fight each other Yeah,

oh it's fantastic and when I when I look at when

I look at cup I see that I see a big robotic

football player almost That just doesn't look

like it really can do too much. I don't know

I don't know, I was, what was it? Today's Monday,

so Friday, I got a message from one of my contacts,

and you guys can't see this in radio land, but

I just did the whole quotation mark thing with

my fingers. We can hear your voice, dude. Oh,

could you? Really? I articulated that so well

that you could actually envision finger motion.

That's impressive. Exactly. Got this message

first of all from P off and then from the the

guy overseas He's like Paul Paul. Oh my god,

dude wheeljack wheeljack wheeljack. I'm like,

what about him? He's like we got three of them

I'm like Wow cool wheeljack nice. I'm like how

much is it 125 bucks? I'm like, ooh My dad's

not gonna be good. I just paid for a wedding

cake The winning cake that you can't even use.

Yeah, well, trust me, for the cost of it, it's

a cake. Anyhow. So I'm like, shit, okay. And

well, that whole thing, I didn't know I actually

paid for that at the time. So I told him, I said,

yeah, sure, I'll take it. And then I went and

checked my bank account. And then I realized

that my girlfriend had spent the money. So I

was like, son of a bitch. But I'm like, all right,

can't get them. I have to wait for the next go

around. And then two days later, the guy's like,

ooh, Paul, Paul, guess what, guess what? I'm

like, what? False alarm. It wasn't Wheeljack.

I'm like, OK. He's like, it was Cup. I'm like,

oof. Like $125 for that POS? Like, oh, never

mind. So while everybody's talking about the

photo gallery, in about a week's time, we'll

probably have a video review of it, because I

know where one of them is going. Yeah. Well,

I can I know where one of them is going anyways

could just from what you said earlier. Well,

there you go. So He was the the the seller The

overseas guy he was accurate in that there was

three of them. He was holding one for me One

was going to pee on then some other guy was getting

one But when I was like and like not never mind

So he turned around and he sold it to someone

else and then come to find out that it was actually

tough so that So I'm like, okay, whatever. So

long story short, basically in about a week's

time, I'll see Pia's review on it and it'll probably

determine whether or not I actually get the thing

or not. I like him, but again, I'm at the point

now where I'm still getting myself out of debt,

so I like seeing all this stuff. I just thought

of this. For the longest time, everybody has

always talked about how the animated, and maybe

this necessarily won't go too well aesthetically,

the animated Cybertron mode Optimus Prime. We

could paint the thing in the G1 Cup colors and

maybe pop off the heads and swap out the heads.

Oh, that could work. That might be interesting

looking. I'd be curious to see how that would

look. I know some people. I'm gonna make some

phone calls. I know people that know people.

A lot of the, you know, Cup to me, I like him.

He looks cool and it's probably going to be like

the first generations mold I have that isn't

more for Cybertron centric because I don't like

a lot of the generations figures. I have no interest

in Drift because I don't know the character.

Blur, he's okay but... It just doesn't say blur

to me. I know it's the IDW comic version and

all that, but I don't know. Speaking of Wheeljack,

we've got more images of Wheeljack, Frenzy, Rumble,

Scourge, Perceptor, and Laser Optimus Prime.

Wheeljack actually looks really, really cool.

I don't remember where or what I posted this

because I'm on so many damn forums right now.

But I posed the question, what do you think came

first? Do you think that Wheeljack was initially

created and then they said, hey, we can use this

for tracks as well? Or do you think it was the

other way around? Or do you think that they said,

well, we can, why don't we, here's the design,

let's do both of these? Or I mean, do you think

they both came out at the same time or one or

the other? Think it's both at the same time because

if you look at the wheel jack picture of his

robot mode He has his body mold is the exact

same thing as tracks the only thing that's different

Obviously is the head and the paint job But I

mean if you just it's just you think it's a side

swipe Sunstreaker. Yeah, yeah Basically. I mean,

because if you look at that picture of Wheeljack,

you can see the silver wing. It's the exact same

thing as what Traxx has. So it's basically they

gang -molded the robot mode and alt -mode, recolored

it into different colors, and obviously you have

to give Wheeljack his own head. So... So yeah,

I think it's... I don't think it's either or.

I think it's they just made the same body type.

Well now... Let me ask both of you this which

figure do you think this mold better serves wheel

jack or tracks? Wheel jack Wheel jack yeah, why?

Because because of the wing thing going on to

the back and then But Trax had that too though.

That's true. Right. Well, my main problem with

Trax with this mold is they couldn't find a way

to engineer the quote unquote DeLorean -esque

version of him without it being quote unquote

a fan mode into an actual mode. We still have

never seen... I actually kicked myself in the

ass because I paid... $50 for the tracks that

I'm getting and it's loose. It's not open and

I could go on eBay right now and for $29 plus

$10 shipping so $10 cheaper I can get a packaged

version of him That would come with instructions.

We still haven't seen the instructions on this

so it might be there Well, I mean my main complaint

about that is the last time that we did an episode

of this show When when we were kind of discussing

this was the fact that you have to fold the doors

down No, I want wings that come up. I want wings

kind of like the oh, what is it the the Exileon

mold the BotCon oh wait Gold bug thing the where

the wings pop out from the cyber key thing the

gimmick oh Yeah, yeah, I want something like

that if it's gonna be for tracks for wheel jack

now But that wasn't that's what that tracks didn't

do that in the G1. Yes, he did His wings didn't

there his doors didn't open up No, his doors

didn't open up his wings came out of the back

of his back of his sides The doors didn't open

you're right wait no the wings yeah, are you

talking to toy or the the Animation I'm talking

about the animation. It's slid out from underneath

his tires. Oh It's been a while Anyways, I think

it fits Wheeljack better. I kind of wish they

didn't have the wings on Wheeljack, because I

don't remember Wheeljack having wings. Yeah,

he did. Did he? Okay, well, again. You were talking

to the Wheeljack aficionado. Well, you might

be the male version of the Wheeljack aficionado,

but Nitro Streak is the female version, so...

I do not know who this person is. Anyways, um...

That's all that matters. Shut up, Steve. Shut

up, right trap. Shut up, Steve. My only real

complaint about Lil Jack is that he doesn't have

his numbers on the sides of his doors. Reprolabels.

Okay, well that's everybody's answer to everything

that Hasbro doesn't give us, and I get that that's

great and everything else, but it would have

been nice. I mean, if Hasbro can put the four

on Jazz, they could have put the number on Wheeljack.

But that takes extra time that they don't want

to use. Let me, I don't know if they could have

done that very well. Let me see the picture of

his vehicle mode. Where the hell is it? Hold

on. Come on, you're supposed to have it already

loaded up and ready for me when I need this stuff.

Yeah, right. Claim not your internet wink monkey,

thank you very much. Yeah, you kind of are, but

that's okay. No, not really. I appreciate it.

So now here's, I'm looking at that, I don't think

they could have put a four on there without making

it really small and making it look stupid. Or

not a four. This number was 39, wasn't it? Oh,

oh you stumped me I think so. I think it was

yeah But I don't remember for sure and then you're

no no no no it was it wasn't 39. That's not right

It's like it's like 439 or something like that.

It's three digits Shit um it's like 39s in there,

but it's like 339 or Something like that. Yeah,

it's yeah, so we'll jack out of a generation

on See Hurry hurry hurry come on. Come on. I

could find a fashion in you. Oh Sure, it shows

his Cybertronian mode, but not his earth car

mode green. Here it is. It's 539 Okay, well,

I had 39 right so you know, it's that way, right?

You did but they don't have enough room that

they could put that all on there Okay, you know

and even you know not thinking about it. Even

if they you know, retro labels came out with

something It still would look kind of too small

and stupid That's fine You're gonna get it anyhow

Yeah, I still like it I'll probably just get

him for the robot mode. But I mean that head

that head sculpt is amazing I am, yeah, I'm pretty

impressed with it. And the red and blue guys.

Oh god. The what? Rumble and frenzy, or frenzy

and rumble, whatever. You know, I gotta say that,

I don't know if it was you and me and Spada talking

about it, but we initially, I actually think

that's what it was, but we initially were pretty

pretty uh... harsh on the uh... frenzy and rumble

figures well you were harsh on them because they

look better they look better than the initial

pictures i saw yeah well you were harsh on them

because they didn't have pile drivers well yeah

well the pile driver thing i mean they kinda

sort of half -ass do but it didn't look very

good in the initial pictures that we saw These

new ones actually though, I mean they don't look

too terribly bad I still think that they're they're

overly bulky at the top part and then they get

stick for legs Yeah, so My only complaint about

them is they have beast feet I haven't even looked

at the feet link, please. I did. Oh good job

You're good You try. You sure are good. Except

for it's not working. Oh, there it is. Oh, ooh.

They have beast feet. You know, the thing about

them is they don't, I mean, they don't even look

really all that spread out. Like, it doesn't

look like there's any kind of pivot in the ankle.

No, there is no pivot. I mean, you can kind of

see it on the red and, I'm going to call them

the red and black one because I don't want to

start the whole debate of, you know, rumble is

purple, frenzy is red, but. You can see it on

the red and black one, kind of on his left foot,

where at the very back of it there's like a little

hole in between his foot and his actual kneecap.

Yeah. It's kind of like that sound wave picture

that we had, the official generation sound wave

pictures. So maybe there's something there, but...

Now these figures are being released as two packs,

aren't they? I think so, but I'm not sure. Do

we even know what size scale they are? No. They

look... Well, obviously they're smaller than

Laser Prime and they look smaller than Wheeljet.

Yeah, but you can't judge on that. I mean, their

background is a white piece of... Well, I don't

know what. I mean, you can't look at it. I mean,

you could put... I mean, you have, there's no,

what's the word I'm looking for? Point of reference

to gauge their size. Well, right, but I mean,

just, you know, looking at the size that they

are and looking at the size that Wheeljack is,

they could be those new Scout, supposedly Hasbro's

bringing back the Scout class. So, maybe they're

Scouts. They never got rid of the Scout class.

Oh, okay, well. Well they did, no they're still

doing scout class figures. What are you talking

about? I don't know. Crackhead. Anyways, Steve

what do you think of all these new like quote

unquote official images here? Wheeljack, Frenzien

Rumble, Laser Prime. I'm going to reiterate what

we talked about last time. Scourge, robot mode

is fine. It looks good. Head looks good. Vehicle

mode, crap. Wheel jack, crap. Laser prime. Vehicle

mode, crap. Because I'm trying to look too much

movie. Robot mode, could be better. But it looks

like a nice homage. Frenzied and rubble, awesome

in robot mode. Crap in vehicle. I think that's

pretty much my thought on all the toys. Are the

vehicle modes for Frenzy and Rumble supposed

to combine too? Oh please, I hope not. I don't

believe so. I swear I thought I heard that somewhere.

No, they're separate tanks. You can't pile them

on top of each other? No. You could, but they

probably wouldn't fit. That's what she said.

I'm not very good at it. I'm not very good at

that. That's what she said stuff. I just kind

of throw it off there randomly. That TV sucks.

That's what she said. Got nothing. Oh man, so

let's switch gears off the toys for a bit and

let's talk about Transformers Prime. Did everybody

watch the, like, I guess they're calling them

character videos? That's what, yeah. I think

that's what they actually call them. I guess.

Now Transformers Prime is scheduled to have its

five part premiere on the hub, I think November

29th. Are they doing it all in one day or is

it just, oh wow? It's five part premiere all

in one day. Wow. Okay. It's probably to garner

the show and the story to make sure that people

are going to tune into it. It'd probably matter

to me if I actually had the station. I know.

I'll probably end up watching it on YouTube.

Yeah. Because I'm going to probably most likely

not pay that close of attention to it. I think

it's cool. Kevin... optimus solon thompson had

posted on his twitter earlier about uh... the

description for the set the his his dvr description

of his cable network i don't know what cable

services he has over there and uh... uh... the

state lives and but uh... He posted the description

for episode two of the five part and it was something

about optimus and Something about somebody else

running to Megatron and he has the dark energon.

So thank God. It's war for Cybertron continuity

Did you guys watch the these these little trailer

things? Yeah, I just did Steve yes RC kicks ass

and I'm not a fan of RC The Rock kicks ass, or

I should say cliff jumper. And I didn't even

watch the Jack Darby one. I don't really care

about the human characters. I am so sorry, but

I cannot believe they're not giving Bumblebee

a voice. That's fucking ridiculous. I agree.

We don't even know. I mean, he might get it.

He might be damaged right now and he might end

up getting it back. They're lies. True. Probably.

They won't. They're not going to. They hate us.

Let's face it, it's Ursy and Kurzborn that are

in charge of this damn show. They're the ones

that didn't give him a voice in the first fucking

film, or they gave it to him at the end for like

half a second and they took it away from him

again in the second movie. So, you know, because

it's them that's also in charge of this show,

I bet you they said, oh, let's not give him one

and that's going to be the edict so we don't

have to hire another voice actor. Christ pisses

me off. I am looking forward to the series just

to see what it is and just to see how well or

bad it'll do. I actually think it'll do fairly

well. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a big fan of RC and

in this video, it doesn't really... Something

something's off about the mouth movements It

just I don't know something about it just doesn't

really sit well with me The the whole I absolutely

love clip jumper I didn't even know that it was

the lock that did the voice until Mike you told

me But it seems more like they're taking clip

jumper and trying to turn them into iron hide

which That kind of bugs me But, I mean, Clipjumper

was always kind of a badass anyhow, so that works.

Well, it's like I told you off air in chat, I

said that, you know, I'm sorry, but there's no

way in hell that they're gonna give The Rock

a wimpy character. There's just no way. You're

absolutely right. I mean, that would just be

ridiculous. But, the Jack Darby thing, it's...

I don't mind it too terribly much. I've always

said that you have to have a human element in

there. I don't think the Jack Darby character

will be that bad, honestly. I don't think so.

I mean, he'll probably be annoying, but I don't

think he'll be anywhere near as annoying as Sorry

was. Sorry wasn't that annoying, but anyways.

Well, Sorry was annoying. I'm sure he'll be along

the lines of Spike. God. That's an insult to

Spike. That's true. My only real problem, and

of course, again, this is IMDB that I'm looking

at, my only real problem is they don't actually

list Bumblebee anywhere in the cast or casting

credits. They just say that James Reymar, Gina

Torres, and Michael Bell are all unknown episodes.

Now, I don't know what Michael Bell would do

for Bumblebee, but there was a rumor that Josh

Keaton, who is actually voicing Jack Darby, was

going to voice Bumblebee if they were going to

give him a voice, but I'm surprised that Bumblebee

isn't listed in this cast listing even if he

didn't have a voice. Why would you have to put

a cast listing if he doesn't have a voice? I

don't know, I'm just surprised that he's not

listed. Who do you list? If he doesn't have a

voice, who do you list? Anyways. You crazy. Let's

see here. You crazy monkey. But I am looking

forward to it just to see, you know, what it's

gonna be all about. If it's good, it's good.

If it sucks, it sucks. You know, it's gonna be

the exact same thing that happened with animated

that people are not gonna like it because...

It's radically different than what we're used

to seeing Although I don't think it's all that

much radically different. I mean, it's got a

very Beast Wars Type of feel to it, but just

more modern with the technology I mean, I remember

everybody there's so many people out there that

hate the animation for Animated and they're like,

oh, it's too much like Teen Titans. Oh, I hate

it But I didn't think it was all that bad it's

If the stories that they come up with are good,

I think that's what will Tell whether or not

this story or this show will be successful, right?

so I mean I can I can look over I can or I can

overlook the You know the weird animation You

know and I at first with transformers animated.

I was taken back out. I was like, ooh, this is

kind of very kiddy, but After a while the stories

were in my opinion so good that I forgot that

the animation was pretty crap See, I think it's

really good animation and I don't really care

for Teen Titans whatsoever but and I've only

seen like bits and pieces of that series because

I Honestly think it sucks. But I mean I liked

animated just for all the nods that it has And

I think the only thing that I've really gotten

tired of so far in watching it back again for

TAP coming up in summer of 2011 is I'm so sick

of the transformation montages every other episode.

It's like, okay, we get one big transformation

montage for all the Autobots. Optimus, Bumblebee,

Wheeljack, not Wheeljack, Ratchet. Bulkhead and

Prowl so we get a big giant transformation sequence

for each and then like in the middle of season

two or in the middle of season one we get a ratchet

transformation sequence because he has to go

to the ship and it's like really you waste four

seconds of time from a show for a transformation

sequence which we've already seen Hey Mike It's

a cartoon. So I can analyze it if I want to.

It's not like I'm sitting here saying, G1, G1,

G1. You've got to keep it in the context that

it's not being catered to us older people. It's

for kids. And they've got to constantly remind

kids of stuff. So you constantly have to keep

throwing that kind of stupid stuff in there.

That's true. I think the last bit of news I was

going to bring up was apparently War for Cybertron

2 gets mentioned at Hasbro Investor Day. Yeah.

Of course, obviously now there's no details,

but supposedly it's coming out in 2012. Yeah,

you know, I have two games to look forward to

next year. You mean the year after. Whatever.

I have one next year and the one after. What's

the one next year? Batman City Arkham City. Yeah,

I have our asylum I beat it like easy medium

and hard I Think I think the new back to the

future game comes out next year, too. Mm -hmm.

I'm looking forward to that Yes, but that but

yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, the

whole Arkham City thing is About that I'm really

stoked about that because the simple fact is

I want to hear Mr. LaMarche's version of Mr.

Freeze considering he basically denied us access

to it when we asked him about it when we interviewed

him. I did not know that that happened. Yeah,

that's a long story. We'll tell y 'all off there.

We have any other Transformers news that we want

to talk about or any other discussion points?

The collector's club 2011 exclusive trans tech

cheeto art. Oh Yeah, Paul and I were talking

about that the other day and he's like, yeah,

it's okay But I want to see the actual toy. I

don't want to see the art image Yeah Which I

want to specifically see the the actual toy head.

Yeah That's what that's what I want to see and

if I mean because I can really see me liking

that figure And it's got to be infinitely better

than any other Cheetor that we've ever gotten.

Well, the first... There's two good things about

this. First of all, it's basically a redesign,

recolor of Animated Blur. Which, regardless of

my frustrations with Animated Blur when I first

got him, I absolutely love that figure. And second

of all, they actually got Derek J. Wyatt to do

the designing for the toy. as far as the character

design. Yeah, the artwork. Yeah, the artwork.

And I think that if it's Eric Sieben... Well,

I don't know, because that's Hasbro. The Collectors

Club has nothing to do with Hasbro, does it?

I believe it. I believe it does. Hasbro Transformers

Collectors Club. Oh, okay. Well, I... I don't

know. I always thought they were two separate

things, but anyway... I think they are two separate

things, but they're affiliated. Okay. I'm not

100 % sure. I mean... Right. This says Hasbro

right on it for the name. Yeah, that's true.

But they probably have to say that because they're...

Because the Transformers is a Hasbro trademark.

I mean, for example, Bokkan isn't put on by Hasbro,

it's put on by the Collector Club. Yeah, that's

true. I don't know. It's a question that we will

never know. As far as Cheeto, I think they can

pull that head off because, I mean... They've

done a lot of interesting head sculpts recently,

so... Yeah. I mean, if they follow that design

to the letter, I think they could pull it off.

I want a Beast Wars Megatron animated. Oh, that'll

never... You almost could have had that, actually,

but... What figure would you take that and do

with, or make out of it? I probably have to almost

use Grimlock. And then do a head re -sculpt.

Yeah. Well... I don't know. Oh, you mean you

want... Okay, never mind. I wasn't talking about

my Beast Machines Megatron. No, I know, but for

a second there, I thought you were talking about

Marauder Megatron, which was the triple changer

animated Megatron that... got scrapped, but he

had the Beast Machines faceplate helmet thingy

as an homage to Beast Machines. That's what I

thought you were talking about. What? And they

crapped it out? Yep. Ugh. Screw you, Hasbro.

I'll have to show you the other picture designs

that I found. This is a Puggleformer version

of it. But anyway, yeah, the Cheetor thing looks

really, really awesome. And yeah, I know we only

really have the vehicle mode for the actual physical

toy, but I mean, even that. There's even some

people that are saying that the vehicle mode

that we saw has been a digibash, but... Don't

know looks pretty good to me. It looks really

good to me Yeah, especially I really love for

some strange reason. I really love the green

headlights Okay, because I think if they're going

to just Repaint blur I think that she or would

have his exact same action feature of the energy

saw so I'm better because the The headlights

are green and the part of the front of the thing

is green. I'm betting that we're going to have

a green energy saw. Yeah. That would be so cool.

Oh man. Yeah. Hey, I'm a cheater fanboy. What

can I say? That's why he went drool drool. Oh

God. Donny, let's not even go there. Let's not

even go there. No, no, no. We're not going there.

Well, Mike, you're not even a member of the Transformer

Collector Club, are you? No. I used to be, but

I can't afford the extra payments for not just

that. Well, Steve, are you going to get the figure?

Are you going to try to get it? It's debatable.

I still want the BotCon Megatron that's unattainable.

I like to have them, but like you Paul, I still

want to see an actual toy image. I mean, yeah,

the vehicle mode here does look like an actual

physical repainted blur toy, but I want to see

the actual toy image. And while the actual design

is awesome in itself, I don't know. See, I have

this issue that I don't have the extra spending

money to buy toys. So I tend to... Unless I can

win them. I just don't get them anymore. Unless

they're Beast Wars related. I've pretty much

limited myself to Megatron. That's poopy. Oh,

it's his favorite character, so... Beast Wars

Megatron is my character. Yes, we know. That's

good. That's good. That's a good one to have.

So I have to own every one of his incarnations.

That's a little insane, but okay. That's no more

insane than people spending, of course I may

get back, but that's no more insane than people

spending ungodly amounts of money to get figures,

you know. H -n -a. terrible and as I said if

if it was a situation where I Was spending more

than I was bringing in unlike other people. I

know I wasn't trying to go down this whole red

hole, but I mean I was down I Mean the whole

thing is you know Steve's collection or his his

collecting habit is he wants every version of

of Beast Wars And, I guess, and Beast Machines

Megatron, because that's his character. And that's

fine. I mean, there are other people that, you

know, have black Prime collections, or, you know,

there's people that have Nemesis Prime, or, not

Nemesis Prime, Nova Prime collections, or, look

at, look at Proto Man. Well, you know Rodimus,

I mean that you know, you know what I mean? So

Steve having, you know having to have every incarnation

of Beast Wars or Beast Machines Megatron I don't

find that too too bad considering there are other

people that have larger obsessions That's true

like my my limited edition Character that there

hardly is anything of I wish there was more.

Yeah, we wish there was more. I wish there was

more accurate ones, too. But they don't exist.

Alas. So true, so true. All right. Are we done

now? Yeah, I don't want to talk anymore. On TFW,

they have a video from a New Jersey Comic Con

or something. Yeah, I saw that. With Optimus

Primal and Blaster dancing. Yeah, that was...

Rather disturbing it was disturbing yet funny

at the same time. You know what those things

it's like the first thing that I instantly noticed

was What? Blaster looks like he's bow -legged

and I like does he got to take a dump or something

then all of a sudden you just see like Optimus

primal like kicking his legs up and you know

then yeah, then they just bust out of this whole

dancing thing and I was like it they really need

to stop Well, you know what I find really, really

funny and awesome about that blaster costume?

Oh, here it is, yeah. What? If they could actually...

I don't know if it's a male or female in that

costume, but whoever had that costume, if it

could have actually transformed, it would have

been a costume contest winner. Well, they actually,

surprisingly enough, have a transformable hot

rod. Yeah, that's right costume. That's right.

Yeah It's pretty bad It's pretty bad. Have you

guys seen pictures? They posted it on my on toynova

.com I don't know if it's been posted anywhere

else that somebody actually got a hold of pictures

what looks to be a Potential regular release

of the classics Thundercracker. Oh That's what

I heard I think it's the guy who does reviews

for TF Source. I can't remember his name. Collecticon

or something like that. He posted it on his blog

and I was looking at it and it's obviously not

a Henkei one because there's no chrome or anything.

It just looks like a standard issue Thundercracker.

You guys haven't seen this yet? I've read the

article, but I haven't actually seen it. Let

me see if I can find the pictures. I'm not really

that much of a Seeker fan anyways, so... Shut

up. You're not allowed to talk anymore. What?

I just don't like Seekers. He put you in your

place. There's a link to it. Now, I mean, people

are saying that... You know, it's possibly a

Digibash, but... Oh yeah, collections. There's

no way that this is a Digibash. And I can't imagine

why anybody would custom paint it to take...

I don't know, I mean... It could be custom painted.

It very well could be, but not bad. I don't know,

because, I mean, that's kind of a lighter blue

than what Dirge has. Obviously, Dirge is more

of a darker blue, but... This looks like it could

be a Hasbro release. Could be. My only problem

with a lot of the Seekers, besides the fact that

I really... Outside of Starscream, I really don't

have anything against Seekers, outside of that

one asshole of a character. But, you know, my

problem with the classic Seekers, whether they're

botcon versions or not, there's only, I think,

there's only like one of them that has a Decepticon

symbol on his cockpit, and I think that was Durge.

Because I've seen video reviews of people doing

them, and then Durge is the only one that has

a Decepticon symbol when they compare Thrust

and Ramjet. And it's like, really? So you're

mad that they didn't put a Decepticon logo on

their nose cone? That's the only reason why you

don't like Seekers? No, that's just one of my

small complaints, but Seekers in general, I just

I don't collect airplanes. That's all. That's

why you leave them in robot mode. Yeah. The only

Seeker I have is Mighty Mug Star Scream. Oh,

for the love of God. What? A Seeker? I wanna

take that thing and throw it at your forehead.

What? Mighty Mug Starscream? That would hurt.

I would have to sue you for that. Probably. He'd

sue you for... All of his YouTube money. A penny.

I'd sue you for a dollar! Oh god, don't even

go there. I hate that guy. I blog and report

that guy every friggin' time I see it. So I think

we've gone on long enough Whether some thundercracker

is real or not. It's so Even though the collections

guys said that it could be a did you bet it doesn't

look like a did you bash to me if I'm Of all

the seekers. I mean they've gone through all

the coneheads. I mean they've released an acid

storm Which I don't understand that at all. Honestly,

I think that's a waste Don't know why they want

to do Thunder cracker and skywarp. I mean now

I know they did skywarp with the two -pack thing

Yeah, but people want these figures now Hopefully

within the next day or two I'm gonna be getting

the the knockoff henkay figures of these guys

Yeah, and if that's the case You know if they're

gonna be coming out with a Hasbro version of

it I Don't know what I don't know what I would

do with my knockoff one that I'm gonna be getting

it's Give it away be like, here's a real hank

a thundercracker and sky war It's really real.

Look, I'm holding in my hand. It's real. I can

touch it. It's real. Hi, mr. Shlong Never know.

I think I don't think he's ever actually done

that Leave it to Mike to drag it down the rat

hole. No kidding. I could have brought up Megatron's

whole, you know, raping Barney thing. Oh wait,

oops, I already did that, didn't I? I have something

to interject. Did you see Pecan Court Michaels?

Post on Twitter. Oh, which one? About Unicron's

eyeball. Oh, God. I saw the post, but I didn't

click on it. Yes, it has a transformer standing

on Unicron's eye, walking for months, and he's

still a speck of dust. Therefore, your pathetic

attempt to say, my grandma is as big as Unicron

is epic fail. God. Can't we leave this subject

alone? You are not. Stefan, from this we can

keep. Shut your face. Oh, Christ. Hey Megatron,

why don't you go plant yourself in some botanical

gardens? Hey Mike, why don't you go play with

yourself? Oh crap. Oh crap yourself. You do it

quite often. Just for this, I'm making him do

a whole bunch of art stuff tonight. You've won.

Run feces from your mouth. Nice. Oh, Jesus Christ,

that's funny. All right. So yeah, we've we've

gone way, way off. That's why one created tap.

He could say he could tap it. That's what she

said. Tap it, slap it and crap it. Oh, crap it.

Oh my god. Bad news. Excellent. Yes. I want my

lawyer. That was cryo tech. I know. Terrible.

I was alright. Wasn't that bad. What, the prequel?

It was pretty bad. The prequel was fine. Eh.

The best part was David Kay. True. The Darkglass

fan version, I promise you, will be much better

than that. Because I'm doing the voice cast.

Yes. And if they're not damn close, then they

didn't get casted. And then I'm trying my hand

at it. Oh, boy. Yes. Alright, so, yes, look for...

Transformation Animation next summer. We will

probably do another episode of ATTF after me,

Steve, Kevin, and Spada have all seen TF Prime

just to give our initial thoughts on it. And

then I don't know what else. We'll probably have

an episode at some point before the end of the

year. What was that for? I don't know. You and

your chuckling crap. We should do, uh, Transformers

Revenge of the Fallen commentary. Yeah, we gotta

get those out of the way, both movie one and

movie two. Those would be fun. Yeah. We already

did Transformers and movie one. Yeah, we already

did it at TFTM, but... The animated movie or

the... The animated. The TFTM, the 86 movie.

Yeah. We already did that one, but... Anybody

wants to get me a new TV for Christmas? That

would be, you know, greatly appreciated. That

way I could actually record commentaries. Anybody

wants to give me money to upgrade my computer

so that it can uphold the amount of crap I have

to do on it? No, podcast, not porn. I have to

edit them and then sometimes if I don't have

the right amount of memory, I think that's when

Audacity decides to slow clips down. Everybody

go over to the site listen to t -sup episode

18 secret origins podcast episode 18 like the

first Wait, I think it's after like the first

eight minutes and you'll hear what Steve's talking

about We've got the flash hot girl and Wonder

Woman all sounding like they're gay males They're

all sounding like this when they talk So it sounds

horrible. Like, I started laughing hysterically.

Mike's like, what did you do with my audio? Yeah,

I messaged him sky -high and said, what the fuck

did you do to my audio? I wanted to ruin his

memory of the Justice League. Like, he's ruined

Megatron with Barney. No, you ruined Megatron

with Barney. You started that. Yes, but that

doesn't mean I want it continuously brought up.

Well, hey. I only created it because you guys

started talking about Snow Stalker and Tigatron.

Yeah, and then you brought it up, so that's your

own damn fault. Anyways, this has been All Things

Transformers. I have been TF'd you on mic with

Steve Megatron Phillips. Paul, up the bottom

of this. It wasn't nearly as epic sounding as

Steve's. I've had plenty of practice. That's

what she said. Oh, see, that's how that works.

Alright, so we'll see you guys later. Begin termination

extinct. That was fucking stupid. You fucked

that up, didn't you? Yeah, fuck your face. Well,

fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah, fuck your

face, motherfucker. Hahaha, yeah.