Transformers News and Toy Industry Discussion

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You're listening to All Things Transformers,

episode 41, recorded Tuesday, March 9th, 2010.

TFG on mic hello. Hello. How are you? Very tired.

Yes It is Quarter of six in the morning as we

are doing this much like our usual record times

for this show Yeah, it's it's one of them days

At least the weather is supposed to be nice,

so that's good. Yeah, we're getting back up around

the 40s and 50s again. Hell, yesterday here it

felt like summertime. It was like up to the 60s,

I think. Yeah, that's pretty much what it felt

like around here, too. It was pretty actually

really decent out. Yeah. So what's been going

on with you? As some people will know... had

issues with that box set which I've returned

although I got fucked on nine dollars shipping

which is bullshit but because I had to send it

back to the dipshit so I could get a full refund

which it wasn't totally a full refund I mean

it was a full refund of what I paid originally

but not of what I paid to send it and true but

I mean you know As long as you get your original

money minus the the cost of having to send it

that's that's always good because sometimes they'll

say oh Well, we're not gonna do that because

we're only gonna refund you the shipping or what

you're or whatever. So Yeah, I actually asked

I'm not sure when this episode is gonna go up,

but Last night because we were recording this

Tuesday morning When I was doing nerd news with

Mike Dodd, I asked him if it was at all possible

if he can contact Warner Brothers to get you

a copy of it for review. But he said he's still

waiting on his copy of the Justice League Complete

series, so there's probably no way he could get

you one of the Batman series. I tried. Yeah.

But yeah, so my mom bought me the whole series

on... Volume set so that I can actually get it.

Mm -hmm Which is better than nothing at all?

True hoping for a like new release with the 20

year anniversary in two years See, I don't know

if they will or not I mean grant, you know the

15th anniversary of mask of the phantasm just

passed a couple of years ago and They didn't

do a DVD release for that at all Mask of the

Phantasm only had the one you know bare -bones

DVD release back in the day and There was a campaign

going on over at worldsfinestonline .com About

you know will the will a 15th anniversary DVD

be done? for that film And with this big box

set now, I don't know if they would transfer

it from regular DVD to Blu -ray for a 20th anniversary

edition. I'm not sure. I don't know what Warner

Brothers would do with it. It'd be nice, but

I just don't know. I don't see it happening just

because they'd have to convert the whole thing

to higher format. Yep. And that would require

a lot of money. Yeah. And you got to think, the

set itself when it came out late last year, the

MSRP on that set was $107 .92 when it came out.

And if you were lucky enough to get it on sale

when it came out at Best Buy or whatever, I paid

$76 after tax. That's not bad at all. For the

actual set. No, it's not bad at all when you

consider the MSRP price. Yep. So, anyway, this

is all things Transformers. You have a reply

to your Astro Boy question from last episode.

Yes, as some may or may not know, I put out a

calling last week when I released episode 40

of something I heard people talking about at

my local FYE. So in a pissed off rage in response,

I commented on it in the last episode and I asked

for your comments. So what I ended up with was

I got a voice, or not a voicemail, an email from,

I'm pulling it up right now. Yeah, lack of preparedness

here. It's from Sherry Fornier. I'm sure I just

butchered her name and I'm sorry. It says, hello

there, my name is Sherry and I subscribe to your

Transformers podcast on iTunes. In the latest

episode, which I believe is episode 40, you asked

on our thoughts on the whole Astro Boy is why

robot franchises started thing. I'm going to

say please. Astro Boy wouldn't exist if it wasn't

for the Jewish folklore of golems. Golems are,

in essence, if you think about it, the first

robots created by man, have a form of activation

and deactivation. In the Golem folklore, it was

brought to life after created out of mud, one

of the names of God on its forehead, a slip of

what the same thing put in its mouth, or the

Hebrew word for truth written on its forehead,

and the last care to deactivate it. You have

to erase part of the word to make the Hebrew

word for death. That's pretty well a robot. In

fact, a play about a golem was the first time

the word robot was coined. So what I'm saying,

Astro Boy and nothing against Astro Boy, I don't

enjoy it myself, but I do realize it was an important

anime in its own right, was not the first. Therefore,

not the reason why Transformers was created.

You have Jewish folklore to thank for that. Yes,

I'm a total geek. Why do you ask? Well, you know,

when she's talking about golems, the first thing

that comes to mind is the golem from Batman Beyond

with Willy Watt controlling it. But anyway, you

know, now that I'm thinking about this, if you

really want the truth, especially Transformers

-wise, first of all, Astro Boy, as she said,

is an anime. That doesn't count as far as...

transformers cartoons because for the most part

transformers cartoons outside of the stuff that's

done in Japan is an Americanized cartoon it's

not anime style it has nothing to do with anime

if you really want the truth now I'm thinking

about it with the transformers cartoons have

go -bots to thank the failing fucking go -bots

if go -bots didn't start and then plummet to

their death Don't think we would have transformers

And and you know the funniest part about that

is now that Hasbro owns Oh god, what was the

damn company? I just covered it in 35 of Dunecast

Long story short Hasbro now Oh Tonka Hasbro now

owns Tonka's properties Because Tonka toys went

under bankrupt or whatever So we will probably

never see GoBots on DVD because it clashes with

Hasbro's Transformers property. Yeah, I could

see that not ever showing the light of day again.

I mean, unless Hasbro has, you know, some need

to, you know, or they have some people working

for them who are huge GoBot fans that want to

see giant mistransformed jets with weird googly

-eyed heads on DVD, you know, they'll probably

tab Shout Factory to do it, but When you were

in this FYE, how old did these people look? Probably

in their mid to late 20s. Mid to late 20s or

early to mid 20s? All varieties. There were six

of them standing there talking. Honestly, and

I'm not meaning any offense to any of the late

20s. Transformers fans who still grew up in the

80s but like early 20s and like say late teens

of people that are alive now you didn't grow

up in the 80s if if anime astro boy is all you

fucking know you don't know shit you know that's

just that's just fucking stupid let's just fucking

astro boy was that no no That's just, no. No,

no, no. So. Yeah, that's what I thought. I just

was like, OK, come on, guys. Give me a break.

Yeah. It's not our fault people were born in

the wrong generation. So thank you, Sherry, for

the email. Yes, thank you very much. And we encourage

all forms of questions, comments, and. emails

or anything that you would like to see in the

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the deadline for that is March 21st. So I guess

now on to the news. War for Cybertron Multiplayer

Details. Create your own Transformer character?

Three News has posted a small write -up on Transformers

War for Cybertron included in their article Direct

from Activision is information on the War for

Cybertron multiplayer mode, including confirmation

that there will be some level of character creation

in the multiplayer. Complete with several multiplayer

modes, Transformers War for Cybertron allows

gamers to play through the story missions with

their friends in drop -in drop -out online co

-op. It will also create their own Transformers

character for a competitive head -to -head multiplayer

mode. Choosing among four distinct character

classes, personalizing its look and selecting

from a huge variety of weapons, skills, and abilities.

It is not yet confirmed exactly how extensive

this character creation will be, however, it

is extremely encouraging for every Transformers

fan who has ever wanted to create their own character

to join the epic battle between the Autobots

and the Decepticons. are giving it the best transformers

game ever uh... i know that the people at moon

studios did not set out to create the best transformers

game ever they just want to create a really good

transformers game uh... but just everything i've

heard about this game it's like the end all be

all of of transformers games yes definitely If

you've missed any of the others and or you loved

some of the others Forget the other ones. This

is the one to be clinging to oh Yeah, very much

so. I Mean I was a big fan of the multiplayer

and believe it or not back in the day in the

late 90s of Beast Wars Playing it on the MSN

zone, which is the only place you could play

it And it was like a four -player game and back

in the day we used to think that was awesome,

you know, but The graphics have come a long way

sound has come a long way everything in these

games have come a long way Since those and even

Armada, which was deemed pretty much the best

game before this The the transformer movie adaptations

were kind of lackluster and They missed a beat

in quite a few areas, so I mean this this is

the game That if you haven't bought one before

or if you have this is the one to try and Like

it because you probably won't be disappointed

pointed at all Yes, I totally agree Just from

what I've seen so far of this there isn't a single

thing that I don't like the only thing that concerns

me is Whomever voices Megatron because I don't

think it's been officially said anywhere Uh,

who voices him in the game? I actually found

that out, uh, a couple weeks ago. Oh, did you?

Yes, um, I posted it on behind the voice actors,

but I don't know if they actually put it on the

page. So who voices him? I don't know off the

top of my head. I'm just saying I figured it

out. That's, that's not, that doesn't, that doesn't

help, dude. Give me like a couple minutes, I

can, I'll dig it out. Okay, next story. Optimus

Prime and Bumblebee's character models to undergo

minor visual changes for Transformers 3. Sci

-Fi Wire has posted an article that features

an interview with Scott Benza and Scott Farrar.

from Industrial Light and Magic. Within the interview,

the two supervisors from the first two Transformers

films talk about the third film, Scott Benza

confirms that Optimus Prime and Bumblebee's robot

modes will receive subtle changes. They believe

that Bumblebee has matured through the first

two films and will receive an update to make

his physique look more mature, while Optimus

Prime's update will make him look more heroic.

Elsewhere in the interview, Scott Farrar mentions

that they have outlined the movie in hand and

a script is mostly done. The ILM art department

is currently working on turning 2D work into

the 3D characters. Well, that's good that they're

wanting to further the, um, you know, Bumblebee

character design and the Optimus character design.

I hope to God that this movie is not in 3D. just

yeah they said that some of it's gonna be probably

in 3d like scenes here well the other news item

that had come out was something about Michael

Bay said something about shooting in 3d just

to see how how it would look now whether they

keep the 3d in or not I don't know but yeah no

just no yeah Pretty much against that. I could

give two shits less about the next movie in all

honesty. I mean, I'm hoping that something good

comes out of this and that they actually fix

this franchise. But I'm not very hopeful with

what they did with the last film. The only way

that they could fix the franchise is for somebody

to pretty much assassinate Michael Bay. So in

other words, new director? Pretty much, yeah.

Yeah, I'd have to almost agree with you. I think

he's butchered it enough. I think it's done.

Yeah, yeah. And I guess since I read that story,

I'm going to read a tie -in story to it, which

actually is very disheartening. Bumblebee from

Transformers Prime revealed, Monocle of the AllSpark

has provided an image from a media advertising

magazine brand week that promotes a sneak peek

of Hasbro and Discovery's upcoming network, The

Hub. Wow Steve, they stole your name. Yeah, I

had that name a long time ago, you bastards.

One of the characters featured in the image is

the robot version of Bumblebee from the upcoming

Transformers cartoon for the hub that is currently

called Transformers Prime The image of Bumblebee

shares some characteristics of the movie verse

Bumblebee Suggesting that Transformers Prime

will indeed take place within the movie universe

No, no, just no bang ahead here More like cut

off finger here Jesus Christ no what the hell

is I'm so tired of the movie I I'm telling you

I think I said it off air I don't think I said

it on air but whenever we get around to doing

the live -action commentaries for ATTF I'm going

to end up cursing halfway through those fucking

commentaries because at this point I am so fucking

sick and tired of all this movie verse tie -in

shit If you want to do it in comics, fine. If

you want to do it in toys, fine. Don't make it

into a fucking cartoon. Jesus Christ. I don't

know, but uh They just need to leave this separate

Yeah, leave the cartoons alone you bastards Bring

it shattered glass or you know universe or something

machine wars back in them in the mix Yeah, something

that is not movie verse Also tying into these

movie stories. We have revenge of the fall ending

revenge of the fallen winning three Razzies Who

really gives a crap? Transformers Revenge of

the Fallen may have been shunned from the Academy

Awards, but it still picked up three other, quote

-unquote, other awards. The 13th Annual Golden

Raspberry Awards, RASES, recently awarded Revenge

of the Fallen the awards for Worst Picture of

2009, Worst Director, and Worst Screenplay. Um...

Well, yeah! Yeah, cuz the the the plotline kind

of blue I mean the the the movie And Michael

Bay had these 30 -minute run through the desert

scenes that were unneeded Yeah getting away from

movie news, I just I know we don't really Don't

really are really interested in the current toys

because there really aren't that many toys that

aren't movie but apparently The finalized image

of Shattered Glass Cyclonus has been revealed.

The Transformers Collectors Club has updated

with a new image of their exclusive Shattered

Glass Cyclonus. Shattered Glass Cyclonus will

be available for pre -order shortly, awaiting

confirmation of the shipping schedule from the

supplier, so stay tuned for your chance to pre

-order this toy and also the highly anticipated

Punch Counterpunch. On the subject of punch -counterpunch,

Manley speculated with the toy's dual -faction

transformation if he might also feature remolded

hands to better fit the fact that the torso twists

around during the transformation. Unfortunately,

an interview between Cybertron .com and Pete

Sinclair have confirmed that this will not be

the case because a decision was made to focus

all the available budget on the best head sculpt

slash remold possible. They have a picture of

the shattered glass cyclonus on this article

here and To me like I love the universe 2 .0

cyclonus toy. Don't get me wrong. It's a great

freaking toy I do eventually I would eventually

love to get the hand cave version with all the

chrome even though it's a different color purple

But this shattered glass version of cyclonus

He's basically a fire red Or a fiery orange hot

rod with Very light orange wings. I mean, yeah,

he is the same figure. It's just repainted as

the The current universe 2 .0 cyclonus. It's

the exact same figure mold with no real It's

nothing new. They just repeat. It's just a repaint

of that figure and it just it reminds me, you

know, it's like It's like somebody infected him

with hot rod juice or something because it looks

like they all have the hate plague Exactly. Yeah

Cuz it looks God it looked an idea hate plague

virus versions No, no Steve. No don't go there

Don't go there dude. Hey cool. I'm going there

Red repaints of everything no That's all it would

be too. I know that's the that's the sad part

and Hell you already have the white optimus prime.

So you got that covered? Yeah On a better note,

you know if people who are out there who are

like who who like repaints and and and I mean

me I'm a huge fan of shattered glass, but this

just isn't something I'm interested in But on

a I think we will end the news with this last

story here Transformers all animated all spark

almanac volume 2 cover art and the adventure

continues amazon .com has added three new entries

for various transformers animated books the first

is the previously announced and listed all spark

almanac volume 2 which has been updated with

a cover art true to the style of the first volume

The second volumes cover brings together many

fun elements of the series, showing Bumblebee,

Sari, and Retgar playing with various other Transformers

animated toys. Also listed on Amazon are Transformers

Animated Omnibus, which sounds as though it is

a collected edition of the previous series' adaptation

graphic novels, and new entry for Transformers

Animated The Adventure Continues Volume 1. Could

this new entry be the long -rumored and much

-desired print continuation of Transformers Animated?

I don't know. I know that I want the AllSpark

Almanac Volume 2. And if the animated comic books

or graphic novels or whatever they were are collected

in one edition as it says the TFA Omnibus, I

would love to get that. That would be awesome.

So I don't have to get all the issues individually.

As far as animated the adventure continues volume

one. We'll have to wait and see what that is

Yeah But yeah, I'm super stoked for all spark

all my night going to I cannot wait to get my

hands on that Well see now It's only because

I like the aspects of season three more than

I like season one and two Right, and I understand

that but what I understand I'd still have to

have the whole thing to get the whole picture

That's right exactly because the thing about

all spark almanac Regardless of what people have

felt and I felt this way originally about seasons

one and season two the thing about all spark

almanac is is that Jim Sorensen and Bill Jesus

Was it Bill Forrester? Yeah. The thing what they

did was that they brought the animated characters

to life on the page. Like, yeah, we know they're

lifelike in the cartoon, but they pretty much

went behind the scenes, got everything that we

didn't know about that was going on, and put

it into a book. The designs in the first book,

the The character models, they're very large.

They almost pop off the page. It's just great.

If you have a chance to, and I'm telling you,

Steve, if you have a chance to go to a Barnes

and Noble or somewhere, some bookstore in your

area, and at least look at it, at least look

at the book. Because it's amazing what's in this

thing. Yeah, I'll be sure to do that next time

I go to the bookstore. Do we have a topic for

this week or this episode or whatever really

because I was looking to get some of the news

out as well as respond and read the listener

response to last episodes comments I Really don't

have any topic this week Besides that I think

our brains are fried. Well, it is 6 11 in the

morning. So yeah I guess I could get your thoughts

on it was something that general techno, and

I kind of argued over In we didn't really argue

argue, but you know In toy cast episode 48 which

is yet to be released We ended up closing the

show with a topic of we started on the hat not

Hasbro the Mattel Masters of the Universe DC

Universe 2 packs with Superman and He -Man and

Lex Luthor and Skeletor and then we ended up

discussing the differences between Mattel Toy

Company and Hasbro and I really can't you know

Mattel has two very giant properties they have

Masters of the Universe and DC Universe And those

two properties are giants in themselves now techno

believes because Masters the universe is pretty

much something for And I believe this too. It's

pretty much for collectors, and he said that

you really can't market those toys to kids Well,

it depends if you have If you have say Okay,

say for example, and I'm always going to use

this as an example Michael Wilson He's a thirty

-something year old guy. He's got two kids. Okay.

He's got two young boys Now if he wants to get

them into something or if it's something that

he grew up with like say transformers You know

just replace it with the master universe thing

you would have collectors buying those those

new classic mold toys for their current children.

Yes, granted, if you go down the aisle of a Toys

R Us or a toy store with a child, the child is

probably not going to jump out and say, ooh,

I want that He -Man toy, because they don't know

what it is. But I think once a parent educates

the kid on something, like He -Man or something

like that, I... and it's a good way and it's

a very sneaky way for Mattel to get um... the

Masters in the Universe line back into stores

because these these Masters slash DC two packs

are going to be in Toys R Us stores very soon

I believe I'm not sure exactly when but um...

you know it's a nice way to get Masters back

on the shelves and you know you have that you

know sensation of if you're walking down a toy

aisle oh Masters in the Universe what's that

doing here I remember that from my childhood

The discussion quickly turned to Mattel versus

Hasbro. And really, you can't pit Mattel against

Hasbro because, honestly, Mattel has, I think,

three very large properties. I believe they let

the Barbie property die, but they have Barbie,

Masters of the Universe, And DC universe has

bro on the other hand has four very large properties.

They have transformers GI Joe Marvel and Let's

see other one Star Wars Jesus people are gonna

crucify me for that So, you know Hasbro has the

you know, these four extremely large fan -based

properties. Yes master the unit masters the universe

from a talent and DC universe Barbie hat are

also very strong properties, but they're not

as strong as those big four So I really don't

think you can compare the two toy companies and

plus techno pointed out that you know Hasbro

is really making itself a Entertainment company

especially with the new channel and the fact

that they are very heavily into the fiction as

far as comic books and and and all that stuff,

which Mattel really isn't. Mattel is pretty much

strictly a toy company. But it works for Mattel,

I think. Yeah, whereas Hasbro can pull it off.

Oh yeah, that's true. But yeah, I think that

Masters of the Universe, like I grew up on all

different forms of everything. I grew up on He

-Man, Batman, Ninja Turtles, you know GI Joe

transformers. I mean so I mean all that stuff

And I think you're right about I mean if if I

were to have kids I would bring them up on the

same exact stuff. So I mean it's not like the

the stuff would die out and Pretty much if kids

catch a whiff of something, you know, like they

watch something or if they they see that you

like It they're pretty much gonna jump on it

Right, and that's what I was trying to explain

to techno is that you know you have all these

other other toy properties such as Transformers

and everything else that that can be marketed

to the children Whereas the the Masters universe

classic line is directed directly at us collectors

for us us people that grew up with it and unfortunately

techno is one of those people that that didn't

grow up with it so he really doesn't get it um

and i'm not trying to rag on you michael but

you just don't get it dude masters of the universe

at the time in the 80s was everything else i

mean you know before transformers came along

masters was it And I'm just speaking from experience.

When Masters of the Universe hit air and all

those toys came out and everything else, I had

pretty much all the He -Man toys before I even

knew what Transformers was. So, you know, with

this classics line... Like I said before, they

are gearing it towards, hey, collectors, people

that grew up on this, come have toys, because

we have new toys for you. So that's what that's

geared towards. Do we have anything else we would

like to bring up? Well, I know Hasbro used to

have a lot of the DC property up until recent

years. Oh, really? Yeah, they actually made,

because Kenner actually had it in the early 90s,

which also was the house of Beast Wars. Yes.

They ended up, once Kenner folded, Hasbro inherited

everything fully under that name. And I think

their last line they did was the return of the

Joker, and completely fucked it. Like they This

is where Hasbro missed the ball Mm -hmm, you

know that fucking joker. I'm making right now.

Yeah, this should have been made when the movie

came out Yeah, I agree and Hasbro as usual didn't

make it they repainted and older from the new

adventures of Batman and Robin They repainted

that joker the one with slightly less facial

detail the the wild card one and Said okay. Here's

your here's your Joker which was from the the

flashback scene in the return of the Joker movie

and it wasn't even completely a hundred percent

accurate right and Yeah, so once Mattel got their

hands on it They've got like these new three

packs and they've got this this Joker with a

Joker card in his hand and it comes with like

black canary and Batman and this joker looks

exactly like the flashback joker. The color and

everything, like detail is down to the T. Which

I wish Mattel, being that they're going back

and doing all that, I wish they'd go back and

actually make a lot of the figures that got screwed

up by Hasbro. Yeah, see the problem with that

is though, because you're looking at You know,

a specific line of... of a film. Like, um...

Damn, I forgot to mention that with Dodd. Anyway,

um... Mention what? No, I'll tell you, it's just

something that popped in my head. With that,

you're looking at a specific line from a movie.

Like, the Batman Beyond characters from Return

of the Joker as toys. That's very line -specific.

So unless it's selling now or popular right now,

the toy company, no matter who it is, the toy

company probably will not do it. That's the problem.

Of course, there are a lot of other collectors

that are into Batman. Well, true. Right. No.

And I'm not saying that it's not possible that

Mattel wouldn't do it. But I'm just saying, just

from what I've learned. It's highly unlikely.

Yeah, just from what I've learned like watching

other toy collectors like say pixel Dan and and

Deval and all those guys over at that new toy

smell You know it's very highly unlikely unless

it's a huge huge fan base now don't get me wrong

Batman itself has a extremely large fan base

But I don't know how much of a fan base there's

gonna be for return of the Joker toys Oh, it

went over fine. I mean, it was a very popular

show at the time. But again, you're talking about

a show that's now 10 years old. So wow, that's

scary. Yeah, it is. Oh, Christ, I'm way too fucking

old. They're starting to revisit Batman Beyond.

Yeah, it's going to be in a comic, though. Yeah,

that may lead to a revival on the TV. Maybe even

a live -action film though, which would be kind

of cool. Oh boy Yeah, yeah another thing Bryan

Singer can butcher I was gonna say have like

Mark Hamill play the Joker and give him some

really good like make him look really fucking

scary and have that voice and then have Somebody

that fits the look of Terry McGinnis and then

have And I saw this idea on another site, which

is why I'm kind of suggesting it. And then they

had Michael Keaton playing old fart Bruce Wayne.

You know, I've often thought of what a live -action

film would be for Batman Beyond or, you know,

whatever. Or just a Batman the Animated Series

film with Kevin Conroy being Batman in the live

-action verse. I don't think it'll work, unfortunately.

It would work fine for voice, but I don't know

if Mr. Conroy could pull it off as a live -action

Batman. He pulls it off awesome as far as voice

acting, because he's voice acting to character

model of Batman, and that's just awesome. I've

said this before and I'll say it again. Kevin

Conroy is the definitive animated Batman ever.

Hands down, no discussion, no argument, no nothing.

Kevin Conroy is the goddamn Batman. That's just

what it is. Yes, and Mark Hamill is the goddamn

Joker. Yeah, and as far as Hamill doing a live

-action Joker, again, I don't know if it would

work. Mark's kind of getting up there in age.

Don't know how old Jack Nicholson was when he

played the Joker back in 89, but I Don't actually

know how old Mark Hamill is now but he's not

as Young as he was when he did the voice of the

Joker back in the animated series and in Justice

League So I don't know how well He could pull

it off Yeah, yeah, he did do it in Arkham Asylum,

but return to the Joker and he did it in like

an episode or two of Birds of Prey Right, but

you gotta understand though outside of Arkham

Asylum all those things are at least five to

ten years old Sure, so people age in the last

five to ten years now Arkham Asylum He did do

a good, I mean, I've just seen the trailer. I

haven't actually played that game, but as far

as I can tell, he did a good job. But it doesn't

sound like the Joker that we knew from, again,

it's because the guy is aged. it doesn't sound

like the joker that we knew and loved from the

btas and batman beyond and uh justice league

i'm not saying anything against mark hamill i

understand the guy is getting older and that's

fine but it's it's kind of like the thing with

frank welker frank welker you know 25 years ago

awesome job as g1 megatron frank welker now trying

to do g1 megatron from what i've heard He can

barely pull it off fortunately no disrespect

to mr. Welker at all I seriously doubt he's gonna

listen to this show But I know that other fans

of ours that are gonna listen to this show like

stupid 869 or malunas or somebody are probably

gonna argue this with me But you know Frank Walker

now can barely pull off g1 Megatron correctly

anymore because it you know cuz he's gotten older

Yeah So Why don't you close the show, Megatron?

Well, now. Yes, the show is over. Leave. Be gone.

Excellent. Yes. Is that it? I wish to speak to

my lawyer.