Marvel’s Box Office Dominance, Batman v Superman’s Strategic Retreat, and S.H.I.E.L.D.’s Role in Ultron

Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hi, this is Pat

Fraley, purveyor of duck, dog, and villain voices,

and you're watching Altered Geek. Hello and welcome

to altered geek unlimited episode 52 the one

that was supposed to be live and then wasn't

I Am your sometimes host Michael Powers. I am

joined as always when I'm on the show by Steve

Megatron Phillips Steve. How are you good? How

are you? Good kind of bummed out Me too As I

said we were gonna try and go you know play around

live with the the google hangouts but you know

we tried to do it as a last minute thing and

we couldn't get a start broadcast button to show

up for steve so it did not happen yeah for some

reason it went to 99 i didn't want to push over

that extra one i don't know why because that

if it doesn't throw up an error warning i can't

you know there's no way to tell what the problem

is My computer hates me. It could be that. You

could have a sentient computer. So here we are.

I was more excited to do the live show with the

video that I was to come up with stories to talk

about things to talk about. I wanted to be able

to show things. So actually, you had your house

warming. Last yes, I did. How did that go? It

actually went pretty well I had family show up

a lot of my wife's co -workers and Her family

about half my family showed up which that's fine

I I can deal with that But um Yeah, I mean it's

I'm glad it's over with she was so stressed out

Yeah, I could imagine that I I don't know we

didn't really first of all, I'm sorry I wasn't

there I It goes back to you know the jobs. I

was you know trying to get and I Originally I

didn't ask for it off I was planning to go, but

I wasn't going to ask for it off. I was kind

of like, well, if I get this other job, then

I won't be working weekends and then I can just

go. And then I didn't get the job and then I

wasn't able to ask for it off. So, I mean, that's

kind of a crap excuse for not being there. But,

you know, I got to make my I got to get my paper

when I can get my paper. So, yeah, I completely

get it. I don't. But I don't blame you at all

And so I'm guessing you haven't seen guardians

yet No, okay, I want to but So let's not we won't

talk about that too much then Although then it's

I've heard it's good, but I think it might actually

end up being the number one movie of the summer

busting transfers That would be a good thing

Which Kind of leads into the whole I don't remember

if I was on the podcast when we said this but

you know Batman and Batman vs Superman basically,

you know Ran away from their May 6 2016 release

date Which you know, they had a staring contest

going with Captain America 3 Yeah, we kind of

saw that come in a mile away that was you know,

it's like you'd said before I don't see Marvel

budging Yeah, I it'll be DC that bows out first

It was just funny that it came after Guardians

opened at number one to me like it was a foregone

conclusion, but it's It's more like they were

sitting there waiting to see if Marvel was gonna

have another runaway hit and then they're like,

oh crap Okay now, you know, we can't can't what

actually surprises me more is how far it moved

forward i can't believe they moved it into march

well i mean march has become i mean first of

all march is typically a zack snider release

window anyways that's when 300 came out that's

when um watchmen came out and sucker punch um

like march is zack snider's month if you will

for releasing his movies Obviously Man of Steel

didn't come out in March. But, you know, we've

also had summer creep, if you will, where the

summer has been slowly creeping into March with

the blockbusters and stuff like that. I mean,

Captain America Winter Soldier, let's not forget,

came out in April, the first week of April this

year, which, as everyone knows, is just barely

outside of March. Yeah. But yeah, I was surprised

it was so far forward. So it's kind of like,

well, they could go like the week before, but

then Captain America comes out after them and

chops their legs off at the box office. Or they

could come out after Captain America and then

chop off Captain America's legs at the box office.

But they just decided, let's just move two months

earlier. So. We'll see how that I mean, I don't

think it'll hurt them at all and I think you'll

still have the same box office draw They just

won't be competing against each other anymore

It'll be kind of nice I think just because they'll

stop competing. Yeah, I I'm not It's not that

I don't care for one or the other I just I I

think it'll be nice just to be able to put that

behind us finally But it rightfully so I think

I think that Sorry, it's kind of late. It's almost

one o 'clock now when we're recording um it and

it is like I said, it's just funny that it happened

after guardians because Guardians pretty much

to me. I mean guardians is a quality film. Don't

get me wrong, but I think it kind of signals

that Marvel has a handle at least on their marketing

And with each movie the Marvel Studios name becomes

more and more because a lot more powerful than

the release before it. Kind of like Pixar, if

you will. I think that's really the only thing

I can like in Marvel Studios, too, is Pixar because

I see the Pixar logo and I'm like, oh, I got

to see it. And you put the Marvel Studios logo

on something and it's like, oh, I got to see

it. Pretty much. And so it's kind of like they

have this like massive hit juggernaut going.

Like Pixar did before Well, I think every Pixar

movie after Toy Story 3 has been subpar But It's

kind of not hard to do though But yeah, I'm just

saying like I it's they've got a you know, a

series of hits under their belt and The juggernaut

just keeps going and going and going and it was

like there I think Warner Brothers just like

well Well, let's just wait and see how a talking

raccoon and a bit of tree does on screen before

we decide whether or not we want to move and

They're probably like, oh crap Marvel can put

whatever they want on screen and everyone will

go see it Well, the problem is two is one made

for one They would be stupid to go up against

Captain America because they've actually built

it up to be something Well, they've it's not

only that it's the first post no it's not the

first post avengers movie because ant -man is

post avengers 2 but it's gonna be like i think

it's gonna be the first one that directly has

fallout from avengers 2 so that'll be interesting

to see and i think most people want to tune in

for that side of it you know more so than it's

captain america 3 i think they'll want to tune

in to see how avengers 2 impacts You know Captain

America 3 Which not to not to make this like

too movie heavy or anything like that but I just

like I like having these conversations and I'm

starting to think that like Because you know

how marble has everything broken down into phases

yeah, okay, so phase one was culminated with

the Avengers and basically Loki and the Cosmic

Cube and Almost all the movies in phase one had

something to do with the tesseract or the cosmic

cube if you will Okay, and you could see where

those you could see where like Iron Man Iron

Man 2 Captain America and Thor where they were

kind of all heading towards the Avengers now

In phase two it ends with Avengers 2 Age of Ultron

Obviously very little is known about this other

than we get the villain of Ultron and we get

two new characters in Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

I have tried with Iron Man 3 and Thor the Dark

World and But sorry Captain America Winter Soldier

I've tried to see the plot threads, if you will,

about how it's going to come back around to Age

of Ultron or the creation of Ultron. Because

like I said, in phase one, the Tesseract and

the Cosmic Cube, that was the running plot thread

on the train going for Avengers. So I've been

looking for like Easter eggs or anything to having

to do with Ultron and I've picked out some things

that I think have to do with Ultron, but they're

so thin and not like in your thinly veiled and

not in your face like the Tesseract was. It's

not easy to follow. Yeah, I think that I think

that Marvel's actually learned how to kind of

craft it better now. Well, I don't. What I'm

getting at is, I don't think that Avengers 2

is gonna be, is, I think, well, Avengers 2 is

the end of Marvel's Phase 2. I don't think it's

the same type of ending as, like, Avengers was

to Phase 1. The best way I can describe this

is, imagine, so you've got, Avengers ends with

Phase 1. Let's suppose that Avengers 3 is the

end of Phase 2, okay? Okay, I think Avengers

2 just takes place inside of phase 2 like It's

an event movie with all the characters inside

of it like there's nothing and there's gonna

be fallout going past it, but like the Things

aren't coming back down to a point is what I'm

saying For okay, like all the phase two movies

are not coming to a point It's more like if you

had like a pinpoint and you drew like three lines

off of it kind of making a diamond and Then you

drew a line and made it made that I wish we had

video for this You drew a line and that becomes

Avengers 2 and then on the other side of Avengers

2 You're gonna it's gonna narrow back down again

and head into Avengers 3 So And in that regard

I'm okay with that I've kind of given up on finding

like the loopholes like I said, I found some

myself like I can see how the Satellite system

that was created in Captain America 2 would be

usable by Ultron And I can also see how Stark

hijacking all of Shields information in the Avengers

would also lead to a super AI which would be

Ultron Stuff like that. We do know that Tony

Stark creates Ultron my my theory for the movie

is That and I say this having just recently watched

Avengers Okay, there's a lot of references to

phase two in Avengers a lot of them and I think

in the movie they kind of brush it they brush

phase two off as like they're making weapons

out of the Tesseract but I don't think that's

what phase two was because they never he never

specifically says that's what phase two was there's

like they ask him what phase two is and he's

like yes we were making weapons out of the Tesseract

cube For the Tesseract, but I don't think that's

what phase two was. I think phase two was they

were building their own robotic army Out of the

Iron Man technology, they were using Iron Man

technology to create their own their own army

because if you if you watch through the Avengers

and he and Nick Fury keeps going in front of

the council They tell him that you know, what

about the backup plan because the Avengers initiative

was scrapped like they filed that one away as

not doable and they started down this road of

research and development for something else and

I think that was the Ultron Stuff I think they

were like makes sense. They were creating Ultron

themselves and They also bring Tony Stark on

as a consultant. So I think Stark creates Ultron

Prime Then Ultron kind of evolves from there.

Yes, and that I think that would also Shed some

light on why all the concept art for age of Ultron

shows like an army of Ultrons Fighting the Avengers

like you've seen this right like the sea of all

yeah, I've seen yeah. Yeah, I think I Think that

would lend And this is just it's just really

far -fetched and if and if if Marvel was playing

the long game like they had this like planned

out From the get -go with Avengers. That's awesome.

But I feel like it's just kind of like phase

two is so ambiguous Like it doesn't really Mean

anything until you give it meaning so it's like

it's kind of like some stuff in arrow where it's

like they kind of make a nod or reference something

and I say this having We watched season one and

season two back to back after finishing season

two and seeing how many hooks and everything

they left in the show to be Followed up in season

two Like whether or not that was their goal or

not or they just decided to address that hook

is great So, I mean Avengers could be doing the

same thing. We don't know yet and we won't know

for like another like nine months or so, but

That's my running theory, is that S .H .I .E

.L .D. was the one that created the Ultron army

that we see in all the production stills, or

the concept art. But Stark is responsible for

creating the Ultron Prime, if you will, to control

all of them. Yeah, I could definitely see that

though. That makes a lot more sense than a malfunctioning

Jarvis taking over. Now, there is something,

you've heard about the Comic Con sizzle reel

that was shown, right? Yeah, I didn't actually

see it though. I haven't seen it either, but

it's the one where they're all trying to lift

up Thor's hammer. And then Ultron, like an old

piece of Iron Man armor comes in and says like,

you know, I am Ultron and the only way for there

to be peace is for you to be extinct. I'm not

quite sure how that fits in. But I would imagine

it's some kind of like Like I robot the three

rules of robotics the only way to save yourself

is to you know Destroy yourself, I can't remember

exactly how I robot ended I Know they revolted

because the of like a fault in their programming

because they're following their rules To the

they're following their own rules, but they were

stuck in a loop where they couldn't get out of

it But I'm sure someone's screaming at the podcast

about the rules of robotics and what actually

happened in iRobot, but I can't I'm sure that

there I can't remember off the top of my head.

I'm sorry. I haven't seen it in a while I just

know that they were following some order that

basically was like, you know prevent man from

create from harming himself and I'm sure it stems

from something like that and then you know Tony

start creating the AI and all that jargon Jarvis

jarred so all right i'm done talking about this

stuff because we're not we're not my or weekly

i wish i wish i had a gang sign for off the cuff

i'd totally throw it up right now you throw up

like a hand gesture you saw that right people

thought we we were all beef in here because of

what we said on off the cuff Oh, you mean about

this podcast? Yeah. Well, you saw that they were

like, is there like some kind of like, is there

some kind of beef going on between the two podcasts?

And then some people were like, I like it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know if you'd seen any of

that. It was kind of funny. Now, if it was this

video, I'd totally be throwing up some kind of

stupid sign. Yeah, just because it'd be hilarious.

But I guess I. I can say right now, just to anyone

that listens to Ultra Geek and also listens to

Off the Cuff, I'm sorry, there was no, there

will not be a new episode this week. The episode

that's coming out this week was recorded like

a week ago. We were going to do a double -sized

issue, but then I decided to, you know. Forge

ahead with the off -the -cuff live stuff and

just getting that set up with all my co -work

my co -hosts to Make sure everything works the

right way and you know, the button goes to a

hundred percent So that's gonna be starting sooner

rather than before the end of August off -the

-cuff will be live and It'll be live on Wednesday

nights and I'll start about 8 p .m. And go until

whenever we're done recording Viewers will be

able to you know watch the stream live I think

on Google Hangouts And you don't need a Google

account, but it'll be on Google Hangouts and

on the YouTube channel for off the cuff live

And they'll be able to interact with us live

like ask us questions and stuff like that while

we're recording The thing that I'm testing out

is The show will go live from 8 to whenever record

and then the archive for the show will get posted

to you To YouTube so people will be able to watch

it But the audio version which will be turned

into a podcast the audio version of it won't

be available until like a week later I want to

see how that goes over with some people But I

was gonna work with you Steve about figuring

out how to embed the video into the blog post

Okay, so like so like episode Theoretically like

episode 53 would still go up like it would still

say off the cuff episode 53 and it would have

the name of the podcast name Mm -hmm, and then

in the blog post there would just be like an

embed of the video so people that are used to

going to the website and Listening to it watch

it instead of listen can watch it instead of

listening to it and then a week later i'll go

back into the same post and add the mp3 file

for it to go into the rss feed for people to

get if that makes sense yep it's definitely doable

so you have that to look forward to because i

know everyone's looking so forward to seeing

shanze and daner make love to each other on a

camera and i'm hoping to share some of that same

the same progress with you know altered geek

So we can start doing that one live although

that one will be a little bit later in the evening

Like because we do that one usually around 10

p .m. Right? Yeah, normally this tonight's like

an obscure weird night All right, i'm done talking

for a little bit you start talking. Yeah. Um,

well Funny enough the reason why this is getting

recorded so late is because we did um, gcr wars

Um, it was track first track The original series

versus next generation and then we had some words

flying back and forth throughout the conversation

about uh Somehow we kept getting into the rebooted

films And It was myself Matt I think from M wire

weekly and Kevin and then Birdman So, we were

all throwing around comments in there and Kevin's

like, I'll never understand why you people don't

like Star Trek Into Darkness and it started a

giant Twitter war because Don originally posted

a couple of those do -it -yourself memes. The

other guy on the record Matt, he says never fear

I'm the Picard bitches And they took that that

one that that's got him with his hand sticking

out his mouth open and everything. So Dodd put

that on there Yeah, so And then dad decided it'd

be funny to take there's this one of Captain

Kirk in the original series sitting in his chair

laughing And he puts it's okay. My movie didn't

have magic blood in it lol And we were telling

Kevin about that, and he was like, I won't understand

why people hate Into Darkness so much. And we

were like, because it's terrible? I don't think

it's terrible. Well, as far as the way that it

implemented things. Yeah, it's not as good as

it could have been. I don't think it's terrible.

I think it's one of those, for me, it's one of

those things where it's like, I have a better,

in my head, I have a better way that this could

have gone. And that can be said pretty much about

any movie that I dislike, but it's like, it might

be good. But I mean, it's the same kind of argument

I got in with Dan from MWire Weekly about Days

of Future Past. Like, if they just made a couple

of changes here, it would have gone over much

better with like, you know, the mainstream geek

audience. You know what I'm saying? Exactly,

but it doesn't it doesn't I don't feel like it

I Don't feel like what they did like diminishes

the movie I just feel like you know a couple

tweaks here could have been you know would have

Just made it a lot more palatable for for geeks

like myself who care about that stuff I did like

days of future past just the way it was I just

You know people characters coming up with powers

that they have that they don't have in the comic

book for what for some You know for the sake

of something. I don't know what it was You know

that just kind of irks me, but I still like the

movie and into darkness is the same way it's

like I I can watch the movie and I can enjoy

it, but at the same time I'm just I can watch

it and go I Don't understand why Starfleet is

like one guy And I don't understand like I didn't

like that Honestly, the thing that I didn't really

when it comes down to it I didn't like that Khan

was still a bad guy and I feel like Khan was

only a bad guy in this movie because Future Spock

said he was a bad guy Yeah, I think in this one

he was more justified at being a bad guy because

he was defending his crew like he stated That's

what he was doing the entire time was defending

his crew Against people that had pigeonholed

him as a bad guy Yeah, that's and I agree I'm

not saying the film is terrible There are just

things that have been done to make it at least

a little more about better more interesting Yeah,

well, I mean I think part of the thing that irked

me is they didn't kill Kirk. Yep They did the

the whole con thing that Shatner did back in

the 80s Because it just it didn't play out right

and that whole scene was cheapened because it

was an exact duplicate of the original. Yep So

that really bothered me The the fact that there's

no other ships in the Starfleet in this movie

except for the Vengeance in the Enterprise. It

goes back to my there's only one guy in Starfleet

and that's Robocop So those things bothered me

Mean it was it was mostly that kind of stuff

and and then you know the fact that they developed

trans work, but yet Only one guy uses it in this

film and then you know because they you know

heaven forbid we bring a starship and create

interstellar war know that's how about we teleport

ourselves over there and You know fight him or

whatever and and I don't know there's too many

McGuffins that were left in this film that It

it yeah Even though even though Kevin thinks

we're personally attacking him Which is how he's

taking it on Twitter But we're not it's it's

I'm not saying that it's a terrible film But

it's there's a lot of sloppy writing elements

and it's sloppy and it's not as interesting as

it could have been Yeah, I mean, I think if they

could have altered some things or maybe had a

couple other ships come to the rescue and get

blown to pieces, that would have at least been

some kind of telling. More twists! That there's

more ships. They should have had M. Night Shyamalan

come in and do more twists. Yes. Like, and yet,

here's another ship at another. But I mean, there's,

again, it's neither here nor there, but I just,

I thought it was funny that it spawned an unintended

hate conversation on Twitter. Movies will do

that. People are passionate about their movies.

Yep, everybody's passionate about their movies.

I'm terrible about it too. So have you seen the

new Ninja Turtle film? Not to jump into movies

again. I was going to watch it. I had every intention

of watching it last night. Wednesday night. You

know sent out my message. I said hey, what time

is turtles being previewed and the girl answered

me back She goes 11 p .m.. And it was like 1058

I was like shit No, I haven't seen it and now

that probably means I won't see it Unless I go

sit in a theater on Saturday, which I could I

could do I mean I'll probably the thing is I

don't like going to movies by myself, and I don't

think I can get my wife to go see it with me.

To go see Turtles? Yeah. I'm like really close

to getting her to watch the original Turtles.

Like the 89? 89? 90? 90? 90. Yeah. I'm really

close to getting her to watch the 90s one, because

let's be honest, the 90s one is... Well, I think

the 90s one still holds up. Both. In terms of

special effects and just the humor at least to

me I know some people just rewatched it and didn't

really care for it or didn't Like it as much

as they did when they were a kid, which I guess

is also understandable But I for some reason

I think I honestly think the turtles in the new

one creeper out and I totally understand that

They look kind of crazy But that doesn't but

I'm not knocking the movie on that because I

like as I said many times before on this podcast

I have no nostalgia baggage for anything and

if I was gonna have nostalgia baggage for something

it probably be turtles and I'm I only know my

turtles from like the original cartoon So, I

mean it can't really be too much worse than that

But I do want to see it. Like I said, though,

unless I go and watch it like Saturday night,

if it's like the last get you to go see it with

me. Like I said, I can't get my wife to go see

it and I won't go see a movie by myself, so.

That's kind of a bust. I'll let you know next

week if I see it, though. OK, I'll probably have

to say about it on Twitter if I see it. I'm curious

to hear about it. Because I I'm not unimpressed

with What I'm seeing at least in the new trailer.

That's at least gotten me a little bit more interested

in it I'm still not a fan of the faces. Yeah,

I mean, I mean, I've gotten used to the crap.

That's all over them. I Just I'm still not a

fan of the faces doesn't bother me for some I

think it's only I think it's only bothersome

when it's like close -up stuff but when you see

them like like a whole shot of them i don't think

it's that bad um but that's just me i'm i'm excited

to see i'm still excited to see i've i've heard

wildly different things about it online like

yeah i've seen either people like it either people

hate it or or people are like it's just as bad

as the original or it's just fun like i've heard

like every every single thing i think that can

be said about a movie i've heard it about this

movie um which kind of intrigues me even more

to see it uh usually i mean i want i went and

watched i watched lucy and had a good time with

that and i don't think lucy was a good movie

like i had fun watching it Don't want to sound

like too much like I'm wearing weekly, but it

just wasn't you what again? This is kind of goes

back to what we were talking about just a little

bit ago It's not as good as it could have been

in my mind But the guy that I previewed the movie

with it was really weird is like we he and I

watched two different movies Because we walked

out of there. He's like man. I hated that and

I was like really I actually kind of liked it

he goes You like this? I was like, well, yeah,

I kind of thought that this was like an interpretation

of that. And he goes, oh, well, that kind of

makes sense. It's like, like I said, it's like

we both watched the same movie, but it's like

we saw it through two different lenses. And the

lens that I watched it through made the movie

good. And the lens that he watched it through

made the movie horrible. But make no mistake,

it is not a good movie. It's an okay movie. It

gets kind of stupid right towards the end. Yeah,

that's what you're telling me so But um But yeah,

I'm I know that some should have noticed by the

Oh wait, let me guess you're going to bring alter

geek unlimited. I know wait no It's altered.

Yes on the videos version altered geek unleashed

back to YouTube yep congratulations thanks yeah

I think it was a bit overdue but I think also

my my video skills have gotten better good deal

um hey so I figured before it was me what the

hell I'm saying like my video skills not yours.

I'm saying as far as the Since I took the classes

and okay Because I couldn't have done that I

couldn't have even done what you did before Well,

but I I won't take credit for that. That was

just the software on my computer Still So yeah,

I've got a little teaser intro that I threw together

and I'll probably record a clip soon so that

I can edit it in there and Put something out

I'm not going to keep it longer than like five

minutes. Just be you yelling for five minutes

for the teaser I'm not sure what I'm doing. Yeah,

but that sounds funny Should just take like a

medley of files of me doing different things

actually you should suppose a five -minute video

of your cat being annoying Or your cat doing

something or put my cat up to the the webcam

Ever sitting there smacking it But yeah, there's

that Do you do you keep up with the the Ninja

Turtle cartoon the Nickelodeon one, right? I

have not If season two is done. I have not finished

season two Okay, I haven't either The only reason

I was asking I was because I know that some pretty

Heavy things happened this season. I know it's

all on Hulu Plus. I just have it. I shouldn't

say that It's not all on Hulu Plus. They do that

stupid thing where it's like we're going to air.

We'll show like half of it, but then we'll start

deleting shows like, you know, older episodes.

So I've been trying to watch the older episodes

before they take them off. I think now it's like

they've got like episodes 18 to like the end

of the season. It's what's up there right now,

and that's all that I have left to watch. I mean.

Could find myself getting around to it this weekend

if I am really really bored, but I have not seen

it Yeah, I have them on my flash drive. I just

have yet to watch them. Okay? I'm hoping I get

to them soon so I put off a lot of TV shows lately.

There's like I I finished continuum season 3

I Don't know if they're gonna renew that I think

it was renewed. I haven't heard it was renewed.

It may have been just recently, then, because

I know last I checked, it wasn't. I just. Renewed

or I don't know how much I like it now, but renewed

or not, like I could not get into. That season,

and I feel like it's because I watched the first

I watched like the first two or three episodes.

and then stopped, but big things happened in

like the first two or three episodes of the season.

So when I came back, I was like lost. Like there

was doubles of two of the main characters and

one of them was dead. And I was kind of confused

as to the timeline thing, but then I kind of

started piecing it all back together. But by

the time I did that, I had lost interest in the

show, like altogether. Like I finished season

three with like zero fanfare. Like not caring

I Was I hate to say it but I was kind of the

same way So I just I wanted to like it But I

have a feeling like I'm not gonna give a rip

when it comes back I feel like it lost her motivation

like but maybe that was the whole point was to

get that out of the way right because The one

that's still alive is not the one trying to get

back to her family No, she's the one where the

timeline got screwed up and she got sent More

or less back to fix the other ones stupid The

other Alex's stupid decision, okay Because he

altered the time right I know that I just Maybe

that was the whole point was just to get rid

of that stupid I gotta get back to my family

storyline like that motivation, but then it but

then I lost the motivation like when the when

the show lost when the main character lost her

motivation I lost all interest in the show and

usually the whole family as motivation is very

annoying to me, but for some reason it it worked

because it was like it was Sorry, it was it was

interesting in the fact that it was like You

could kind of play along. It's like how could

she how is she gonna get back to? the future

To where she came from and now I feel like that

doesn't even matter anymore Like it's almost

like the time travel stuff like Granted stuff

is still coming from the future back to the past,

but I feel like time travel is it's not Now it's

just a generic cop show with the power suit Pretty

much and and then you have random weapons showing

up from an alternate future where Kellogg is

the Fan favorite. Yep. There you go. Oh It's

just not that's not interesting to me Then it

got harder to tell what was like the like the

because I can season one and two they kept doing

like those flash forwards to show you like the

future and Then you know like present day like

Those were really hard to see in this episode

this season if even well not only that but everybody

that was good is no longer good Like meaning

that like good as an actor, I mean like okay

like dark versions of themselves like Tainted

by this alternate timeline. Yeah It just got

really hard to follow and I didn't feel like

starting it over. So I was kind of I mean I will

tune in to Season four if it is renewed which

apparently it hasn't been so that's Yeah. I don't

know if it's going to get I think it will. It's

a Canadian show. It's not an American show. Canada

gives their shows more of a chance than we do.

But I don't know. The question is, well, if it

gets renewed in Canada, doesn't mean it's going

to air here because sci fi has to choose to pick

it up, too. So you'll be able to find it. I pick

them up through Torrent anyway. So fine. But.

I I don't get sci -fi so oh Yeah, that was that

was season three so so I was trying to think

I Was gonna try and watch a lot of finish up

a lot of my TV shows that I have still sitting

around last Saturday while I was at work. It

just didn't happen. I made it through it took

me Saturday and Monday night to get through continuum.

It was just a chore I always try to do anything

else other than watch continue but it's done

it's gone it's over finished it I'm going to

move on to something else I just don't know what

it's gonna be yet it'll probably be orphan black

which is a good show and I have nothing to do

but to marathon that so which will be a great

way to experience that show because it's actually

pretty good have you tried orphan black? I suggest

you try Orphan Black. What season is it? I just

finished season two Okay, and it's it has been

renewed for a season three, so You won't be wasting

your time Good to know I'll see I don't have

I could it would be really easy for me to talk

about TV except I'm recording this on the Windows

partition And I can't see what TV shows I have

in my iTunes library without Going back over

the Mac side, so. Man, I don't have a whole lot

more to talk about. Well, you won't have that

problem once. Windows 9 comes out, they're going

to virtual desktops built in. I'm not changing

from seven. I know I'm not either, so. I'm sticking

with what I got. At least for now. Don't know

how long that'll I don't use I mean I have no

reason to use Windows other than like the odd

like steam game that doesn't have an OS 10 version

I also use it for streaming like games I Don't

know good. I have software that I can stream

from OS 10 Like you know my PlayStation 3 and

stuff like that for twitch by There's better

Excuse me. There is better software available

on Windows than there is on OS 10 for streaming

which you know makes sense but yeah, it's pretty

much the reason I have a a Windows partition

is just for the odd oddball game to play every

once in a great while I One of the things that

the only reason I'm actually recording in Windows

today is because you know those lower thirds

we were working on for the Google Hangout? I

can get that in OS X, but for some reason after

about five minutes, mine goes away. And you have

to like kill, I have to like leave the call and

come back and like reload the Hangout thing in

order to get it to work. But I found out that

it works just fine. if you are running Windows.

So that's why I'm on the Windows partition is

because I thought we were going to do the live

stream and I wanted the lower third thing to

stay the entire time. So. I figured out how to

do it on Lightwell. I should say I've downloaded

some that I can input into Adobe Premiere, which

I've started playing with. Because that's how

I made the intro to the YouTube show again I

basically tried to replicate what you did the

first time with the new images and then I Don't

remember where I found the music. I think it

was from like a Super Smash Brothers game One

of the one of the video games that are associated

with it, okay um don't remember which one i usually

kind of lean towards the uh the metal gear or

the uh zelda music for some reason because the

old gcr logo was actor um not logo uh intro music

was actually from metal gear i think but it was

in super smash brothers brawl So I use that but

I use something like that for the altered geek

Unleashed is what I'm calling that one to kind

of differentiate, but they're the same acronym

Makes it difficult to keep track but oh well

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what I'm gonna talk

about on there yet, but I'm actually curious

what the listeners think today Are they interested

in a live show would anyone watch? One of the

one of the live shows because we're gonna have

off the cuff and Possibly some altered geeks

and then there's your video show. What's your

video show? I had some hits on it before It had

a few I mean I I didn't do bad I had like close

to 60 or something I'd have comments on them

which which was nice and it kind of spurned doing

this show originally and It's kind of after you're

suggesting to bring it to the audio form since

I couldn't seem to get a video done. Well Audio

also allowed us to do it together That's a little

more Discussion II Well, we could do that with

it with the live show if we can actually get

Google hang out. We'll get that we'll get that

working I mean the other the only other the other

way we can do it is I think I can sign into your

I Mean if push comes to shove I can sign in Well,

worst -case scenario. We can just throw it on

the GCR and Google Yeah, yeah, which I didn't

think about so I just want to get it working

cuz I want to I want to try it like I want to

see how it works cuz I just want to One another

outlet for our stuff, you know, I want Yes, I

Just think if you then we could do visual reviews

visual reviews I mean I I get like lots of toys

we get lots of toys that we could be showing

people It's like it's it's one thing to be sitting

here Holding the toy spin it my hands me like

oh this looks really cool And it's like basically

teasing everybody at home with what it looks

like versus you know putting it up on the camera

You know showing everybody what the Lego tumbler

looks like you know when I get that That'd be

all right, you know I I have high hopes for it.

I just think it's I think it'd be interesting

It's just another outlet and I'm you know, I

was gonna be upfront. I one of the reasons I

I don't want to start stuff. I really don't but

one of the reasons I actually started even we

were The off -the -cuff guys and I were talking

about using Google Hangouts like just in passing

And last Saturday TFG one might Posted his video.

I Don't know his personal opinion brand well,

I don't know I call it a rant it wasn't it was

a real was it a rant to me is someone like flying

off the handle like He he had it. He at least

said what he wanted to say and he said it in

a pleasant manner. He wasn't like He wasn't like

a raving lunatic. I guess what I think of a rant

is think of someone being like a raving lunatic

Okay, but I The whole thing spurred from Basically

monetization I took it as monetization of one's

content I mean he was taking the stance that

podcasts I think he started out saying podcasts

are meant to be free, but then he changed it

to podcasting should be free. But in my personal

opinion, I do think that podcasting generally

is a free medium, but I feel like if anyone could

figure out how to monetize a podcast, more power

to them. I think his thing was, because I remember

what the conversation was about with him, was

the fact that people were using scare tactics

to pressure people into spending money to get

the podcast. Well, see, I heard him say that,

but I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't

know exactly where or who. See, I don't want

to dig into it. He's not here to have his...

part of the conversation, I don't want to like

start stuff, you know, so another day, another

time and not even that. But it just so Dan and

I just started talking about it got Dan and I

talking about ways that. Maybe we can monetize,

you know, off the cuff and. We actually kind

of like the idea that, you know, maybe you maybe

the special episodes that we do like. And not

and trust me there will be lots of warning before

anything happens at all ever It will be like

very clear and this stuff is I'm being very candid

with the listeners right now about stuff But

we there was the whole discussion about if we

you know We did our weekly episodes like normal

but the special episodes that we do like maybe

like the e3 coverage or the You know like the

console stuff Like when we did the one for the

PlayStation, the one for the Xbox One, like the

conferences and stuff. Like maybe like finding

a way to do like 99 cents an episode, which is

not forcing anyone. To buy those at all. And

we're still getting like a weekly podcast, which

I'm sure will still cover the same stuff into

some degree, maybe not as in depth. But. We had

that conversation and then I was like, you know

what? You can monetize a YouTube thing and basically

what's going to happen, long story short, basically

what's going to happen is off the cuff is going

to go up. I might have said this already. Yeah,

I said this already on the show. But that was

part of it, was just being able to monetize it

a little bit and using YouTube to put ads in.

ads will run like in front and you know across

the bottom of the youtube channel when you're

watching our videos um and that is an attempt

to make you know a couple pennies off of you

know not not so much like you guys actually just

giving us the money but there's you know you

guys watching it indirectly might give us a little

bit of money um But that's pretty much where

it came from. I mean we're still we still want

to do it We're still gonna have fun doing it

We're not gonna be beholden to anything if we

don't make any money. We're not gonna stop doing

it It's just an attempt to try and make some

money to see if we can Yeah, that's kind of the

same opinion I am at at this point I'd like to

make something off them just so that if nothing

else it pays for the for the hobby and for the

Materials that go into exactly. I mean it's not

And that's why I said I don't expect I said more

power to anyone that can monetize a podcast honest

honest to God and I just my whole argument with

the whole thing was a Content creator should

be able to monetize the content they created

if they want to make money off of their podcasts

and they can Then more power to them. I don't

see us ever. I don't see myself I should say

I don't see off the cuff ever being able to make

any money off of a podcast But I sure would like

to try Yep And but I don't see any problem with

trying. I mean, please, listeners, don't be turned

off by the whole 99 cent thing for a special

episode. That's so far away. I don't even know

how to do that. I wouldn't. I don't even know.

I not look. I do. I just I haven't even looked

at any like usually if I'm interested in something,

I will at least like Google search it real quick.

So I have an idea and I haven't even done that.

Like that's. That literally the conversation

was between dander and I the Facebook chat It

was maybe we could actually just do like 99 cents

for special episodes and that was like that was

like I said I Said possibly and that was the

end of the conversation. There was no research

done into it whatsoever Well, technically you

could still do it through you could even sell

them. I mean, yeah, that's I See, that's the

first thing that jumped in my mind, but I don't

want to like I don't know how... I didn't look

how to go about doing that, I should say. Like,

that's... I vaguely have an understanding. I

just... I may eventually do that as far as DVD

commentaries that we do. Like, if I'm involved

with it, because I don't like doing DVD commentaries

personally. I don't mind listening to them to

some degree, depending on the film. But I don't

particularly like recording. Right. Whereas TFG1

Mike loves doing them. And it would be an incentive

for me personally to sit down and actually do

it. Because then I wouldn't feel like I'm suffering

through. It would give me more of a purpose than

just watching the film and commenting on it.

So, but yeah, I OK. That's all the inside baseball

I want to have right now with the listeners But

just so it's just so we're clear because I don't

want Mike to get a comment from that listener

again You know given that we're talking about

monetization of podcasts and whatnot It wasn't

even related I know The guy asked us if we would

ever do that Here we are like talking about not

you know, we're talking about it, but we're not

talking, you know We're not talking about doing

it's so It's so far away and we don't even know

we don't even know like how we would do it or

how we want to do it But it would never we would

never force anybody into doing anything ever

and That's what that's all it comes down to because

it's It's just so far. Don't don't worry about

it Mike Mike had it, right? The only way a podcast

is gonna disappear off of here is if we run out

of space Run out of space or we can't that too

but But yeah, if that listener listens to this

then you know, Mike's answer still applies So

I just wanted to let them know what you know

Be a little upfront with stuff that's that I've

been talking about with people and now I've been

talking about with you I've been meaning to talk

to you about it, but I haven't been able to talk

to you until now. So now everyone gets to hear

about it Sure So I was Just side note kind of

related but kind of not related not in the sense

that you think anyway I know it doesn't make

a whole lot of sense. It's late at night. My

brain's not on all four cylinders or six cylinder

or whatever but Grand cons coming up. Yes Yes,

I Recorded a promo for it. So you'll hear it

in the podcast Probably would have already heard

it. I'll probably throw it at the beginning which

Again, that's rhetorical at this point But uh

Yeah, that's coming up We'll be there again We'll

have our badges again, we'll have our table again,

we're gonna have a banner this time, right? Yeah,

I'm looking into that I haven't gotten any responses

back from sources because I'd prefer to do it

locally Because I don't want to have to mess

with finding somewhere on the internet and then

having to worry about it getting shipped We could

try the one again There's also another one off

Miller Road area By the Pizza Hut, okay, I think

I'm I don't know that name, but I think I know

what you're talking about. It's like Sinorama.

Yep. That one might be the better choice. I don't

quite know. I sent in sample images to have them

look at, but I don't know. I'm waiting on a quote,

but I don't know. I might have to actually call

them. OK. But I do plan on having one this year.

I don't want to go without one. Right. And I

know that Dan and some of his crew were gonna

be at Boston Comic -Con. I made them shirts.

Oh, you did? Yeah, I made them specific Talking

in Circles shirts. Oh, okay. I would make new

ones as far as Grand Con, but... The only thing

I would change from the ones that we made is

I'd actually put Geekcast Radio Network. Yeah,

that's one thing I changed on the Talking in

Circles ones. They actually have the GCRN logo

and thinking back to when everybody was saying,

oh, that's cool. It says Gorn, which I thought

was hilarious. Actually, I don't think I actually

did that for that one. I had it on a different

version. Uh Not the one that I put on there.

That's the five -year one. It says talking in

circles on that I would add the geek cast radio

network title and probably custom podcast Specific

art underneath it. Yeah But uh, that's about

the only thing I changed this time, but I am

NOT concerned with changing my shirt this year

I'll wait till next year when I go to another

convention. Right. But yeah, so we'll be at Grand

Con again this year with the table. So anybody

local in the Michigan area that is going, you'll

see us. I'm looking forward to it again. I actually

have money saved up this time, so I might be

able to buy some stuff. Yeah, I might as well.

This time I saw things that I was like, oh, I

could take that home. And put it on his shelf

And then I'll be at This has been a back -and

-forth battle but TF con okay Michael Wilson

lives close to there. It's it's gonna be the

one in Chicago or it's actually not even Chicago.

It's like Like Roseville or something like that

or Don't even know it's uh They're calling it

the Chicago one, but that's just because that's

the biggest city by it. Okay. It's a suburb of

there But I'll probably be staying with Michael

Wilson Okay, unless Mary decides we have money

to stay in a hotel Excuse me. Sorry. It's getting

late Yep, but anyways, I think that about wraps

it up this week. Yeah, sorry If it was all over

the place We had an entire other show planned

So yeah, this one was like severely winged Yeah,

it's I mean it's not no not no it's not I'm just

saying you know, it's gonna Probably sound a

little different Yeah, it's a little left field.

If we were doing the live show, I'm sure there

were other things we could have brought up easily.

Yeah, if we were doing the live show, I would

have gone and gotten my Benny spaceship from

the Lego movie. I could have just showed stuff

that's on my shelves around me. Or the Weird

Al DVD my wife found for me in a garage sale.

We just want to do the live show so we can show

off all our cool toys. Yeah, that's pretty much

it. So you have that to look forward to, listeners.

Yep. And then I get to edit this and GCR and

Worms, which will be out right afterward. So,

all righty. Anything else? I'm good. All righty.

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