Origins of Snazzy Mike from The Transmissions Podcast

Hi, this is Gary Jock, and you're listening to

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Ross, voice of many of your favorite cartoon

characters, and you are listening to All Things

Transformers. This is Optimus Prime, and you

are listening to All Things Transformers. Hello

and welcome to an all -new generation of all

things Transformers as we get the origins of

any and all Transformers fans that we can. I'm

of course TFU and Mike. Today's guest is none

other than the Transmissions podcast leading

expert in Empires of Rust. It's producer Mike.

Hello, sir. Hello. How are you doing today? I'm

doing pretty alright so far, I guess. At least

the air conditioning didn't impede this recording.

Bad, bad transformer, stop it. I gotta say, that

was one of the more epic introductions that I've

ever been given, so thank you for that. Absolutely.

And yes, you are the producer over at Transmissions

Podcast with Charles and Jeremy and Dr. Pants

and that number. 99 Beast Wars fan Daryl. You

also run Empire of Rust, which is the, what is

it? The first ever only Transformers. I thought

you guys have some weird subtitle. The world's

first and only Transformers RPG podcast. There

you go. And yeah, you guys can head over there.

I've got the links in the show descriptions to

check out what Mike does over there at Transmissions.

But here on All Things Transformers Origins,

we like to figure out how you got into this crazy

fandom. It is. It's a story. That's good. RC,

stop this crazy thing. Did you grow up with Transformers

and at what age do you remember first noticing

the franchise? See, that's the thing. I don't

actually remember when I first got into it because

when I started getting Transformers, I was, I

don't know, four, five years old or so. I remember

very little of that period of my life anyway,

probably because of all the drinking and everything.

I actually don't recall the exact moment I got

into it. I do remember going to see the movie

when I was a kid in 86. I'm sure I was watching

it before then, but that's the first clear memory

of actually seeing anything. Because I had some

of the old VHS tapes that came out. I had some

of those and what have you. So yeah, when you

say when you first remember, it's literally I've

remembered this my entire life. I don't ever

remember a period before knowing about this franchise.

Yeah. It's the same for me because you and I

are pretty much the same age and I remember first...

Seeing like, I don't remember 83, I was 384,

I was 485, I was five. By 85, even though He

-Man had already gone off the air, even though

Voltron had already gone off the air, Transformers

was still going because they were going into

their second season, but you had all the syndication

because as we all know, as every podcast in existence

has ever said, the 80s was animation syndication.

So yeah, I... I wanna say for me, I remember

fall into winter of 85 and then 86 onwards, obviously.

I never saw the movie as a kid. So I never had

the opportunity to hide under my bed or cry in

a closet. You missed out on all the tears, man,

every single one of them. Yeah, nowadays I cry

tears of joy at the end till all are one. That's

right You are the damn leader the truck doesn't

matter anymore I Take it you're a big Rodimus

fan there, huh? Oh, yeah, I like optimists. I

respect optimists, but Optimus ain't no God What

Transformers generation is your generation and

why? Well, definitely G1, just because of course

I grew up with it. But I do have a ton of respect

for everything else that came after it, especially

Beast Wars, simply for what it did and how it

helped revitalize or reintroduce the fandom.

Uh, even, I mean, I even enjoy the Bay movies

for what they are. I mean, I don't think the,

the writing for them is really great, but they

did really introduce a entire new generation

of fans to the, the franchise. And I think the,

the kind of like a Renaissance that we've had

the, these past, you know, like 10 years for

just constant transformer stuff coming out and

constant media. I don't think we would have had

that without the Bayverse stuff. So yeah, I'm

certainly g1 all the way, but I respect the hell

out of everything else that's that's come after

it With the exception of kiss players and everything,

you know Kiss players kicker and other human

characters that aren't as good as you know Yeah,

the actual robots that we want to see and I can

go fuck itself, too I just, by that time I was,

what was that, 2004, 2005, like I just wasn't,

I was getting back into it, but I saw those cartoons

and I'm like, I don't know. Again, I can respect

what they did because that was at the beginning

of like the big eighties revival phase that happened,

but. Objectively, they're not good series. I

think the only good thing out of them, even though

it's not written for the voice actors, it's the

other way. It's them, not mouth flapping, but

it's them doing the lines as... You know, there's

a huge difference between David Kay voicing Beast

Wars Megatron, which is a character written for

his voice, and him showing up as Galvatron and

doing kind of the same sort of thing, but just

doesn't sound like he's having as much fun because

it's written from the page that it's a character

that not Anyway. Yeah. Most of the characters

in the Unicron trilogy, unfortunately, are fairly

interchangeable. And, you know, I'm not going

to throw shade on that trilogy because that certainly

was someone's G1. And like I said, it was the

series that really helped to push the, again,

to push Transformers into the revival that was

going on at the time. It was one of the big linchpins

of that, of just 80s revival then. But in the

end, the characters weren't exactly characters.

There was maybe a handful of them that had a

particular story arc that they actually had done

anything with. I'm thinking like Armada Starscream,

for instance. He actually had an interesting

story arc. Yeah, exactly. And then the rest are

just kind of like there and it just... I don't

know. It was a time. It's a time now that those

are now getting anniversaries, which is fine

as they should. They should, you know, we all

can respect them, but we all don't have to like

them because not everything can be liked. Exactly.

Yeah. And, you know, you talk about your respect

for what the Bavers did, but overall, how do

you like Lowe? Are you just indifferent to it?

If you. Can turn your brain off and just look

at it for what it is. It's a summer action movie.

That's really all it was meant to be. I can,

I don't want to say enjoy, but I can tolerate

it. Certainly. Uh, except Revenge of the Fallen.

There's no excuse for that. Yes. Nobody needs

to see John, uh, Totoro talking about. Devastator's

gonads. No. You're better than that, Totoro.

You played, oh, what's his name? You played Howard

Cosell on TNT's biopic of that television sports

personality. You're better than Devastator. I've

mentioned this and we're actually switching gears

because the summer is in full swing. We said

this off air that obviously I've recently moved

to a new apartment and things like that. I'm

just nowhere near ready, but I have wanted to.

I did this. I pulled the trigger on this last

year. Voodoo had the six film, seven film. I

don't know. They had one of their bundle sales.

They're like, you can get all the Transformers

movies digitally. And I'm like, okay, fine. I

eventually want to actually cover them on the

podcast. That's fine. I'll go ahead and get the

bundle. And we were going to have the summer

of Baham. It might end up being the winter of

Baham at this point, because we are going to

go through all six of the films. And I will say,

in having to get some promotional material from

at least the first film, I will say it kind of

hurt seeing Bernie Mac again because he's no

longer with us. So there are small moments. That's

right. He actually, yeah, he didn't make it,

did he? No, sadly not. There's a lot of people

that haven't made it lately. Alright, what was

your very first Transformers toy as a kid? Of

course you would have to ask the freaking hard

questions. Ah man, I don't know. It was either

a wheel jack or a kickback. And I don't recall

which one. Yeah, it was one of those two. Growing

up, because when you're a kid, you only got toys

every few months, if that, maybe on your birthday

and for Christmas. You didn't get a ton. You

got it during special occasions. I remember having

those two along with Motor Master. I know Motor

Master was 85, so there's that. I'm trying to

remember what other ones that I had. I remember

getting a Thundercracker, but I think that was

later on for like a mail away kind of thing and

with the robot points and I What was the other

one I'm thinking of? another mail order ones

the um the oh Crap those three like mail order

cars override downshift and camshaft. I forget

what? Something that's what they were but I don't

the omnibots. That's who they were The Omnibots.

Yeah, the Omnibots. I remember getting two of

those, but I think that was also 85, so yeah.

I'm gonna have to say either kickback or wheel

jack, and it's one of those two. Very cool, very

cool. Now this was something I did in somewhere

between second and fifth grade. Did you and your

friends... ever pretend to play Transformers

as kids at St. Lake School. Like what I'm talking

about is not, you know, like it's more so you,

you know, holding your hand up in the, I'm going

to be Optimus Prime and you're going to be, you

know, it's kind of like, I'm going to be the

Coke bottle top and you're going to be the piece

of glass kind of thing. It's, it's what the kids

today call LARPing, but it wasn't really LARPing

because we didn't dress up, but we were still.

Playing pretend There was a kid I was friends

with name was Timothy I can't remember his last

name for the life of me We're just fine. I'm

not trying to talk some on the podcast or anything

But no, we used to do that. I I don't that's

the thing. I don't think we pretended to be No,

no, we did. Yeah, we did. We must have. We always

pretended to be like the main characters, either

like Prime or Bumblebee, or I think Prowl was

an important one to us. But yeah, no, in the

playground, like at recess, we'd kind of like

fold our bodies over, like they crunched down

really low and pretend that we were Transformers.

And I don't know why cartoons can't understand

this, but... Kids want to pretend to be the cool

characters not the human interest characters

No one pretends to be spike no one pretends to

be buster They pretend to be the you know optimus

or they pretend to Megatron. It's like, you know,

come on. I Mean, I will say even as a kid. I

always found it interesting in those first few

episodes when spike was doing his Dear diary

sessions at the end of like more than it meets

the eye parts one two and three Where he's kind

of narrating and writing is his thoughts like

I like that But yeah, I wanted to be Bumblebee

or I wanted to be hot rod or I wanted to be you

know Hell, you know once I got a little eviler

as you know as I get older like cyclonus or astrotrain

or Rodimus, you know Well, yeah Rodimus wasn't

evil until until until 2008 so, you know quite

a run That's right All right, who is your end

all be all favorite character from any Transformers

incarnation you can pick one Decepticon one Autobot

one Maximal one Predacon Well, my Autobot is

pretty easy. That's Fort Max Really? Yeah. Unusual

answer, isn't it? Yeah. I remember, because I

remember getting Fort Max for Christmas in, was

it 87, 88? Whatever Christmas. Somewhere around

there. Yeah, whatever Christmas was after that.

I remember getting him and that was the one big

giant Christmas present that I got for that year.

I still have that figure complete to this day

too. It's super exciting. Whenever someone puts

out a Fort Max figure, I'm always buying that

no matter what. I got most if not all of the

third party stuff that came out. I picked up

the Titans Return Fort Max too. Definitely one

of my favorite characters. Now for Decepticon

that is that's interesting you know I'm gonna

do I'm gonna mix it up a little bit here I'm

gonna choose a Predacon for my for my bad guy

Well, yeah, you get one of each Decepticon Maximal

Predacon and Autobots. Oh, so I got four. Yeah

Here I was I thought I was being clever No, no,

no, it's okay. All right. Well for Predacons.

I'm gonna choose a Megatron peace wars Meg's

cuz That's predictable. You know what? You know

what? Screw you. No, I mean, I'm like literally

everybody like don't get me wrong. I'm fine with

you. That's your choice. That's your choice.

I'm not going to, you know, take my gavel and

say, this is illegal. But like, seriously, like,

like Fort Max, okay, what's the story, you know?

You just obviously told the story behind that,

but like, you know, that's not an answer we get

that I get often. So, all right, Beast Wars Megatron

for your Predacon. For you, what is it about

Beast Wars Megatron that makes him your favorite

Predacon above, say, you know, Waspinator that

gets no respect? It's going to have to be David

Kay. That's literally the saving grace for the

character because that is the entire character

right there. I mean, look at the other options.

You have, you know, you have Scorponok who is

just kind of a no -one waspinator, doesn't get

any creds or anything like that. I mean, I suppose

like Blackarachnia is a fairly compelling character

in her own right, which is certainly a good choice.

I mean, you have Tarantulas, just like, okay,

sure, you know, whatever. Everyone else kind

of feels a bit flat, a bit one -note, whereas

Megatron is compelling to listen to, so. No.

Certainly is a more generic choice, but you know

what? It's still my favorite out of that one.

Okay. Decepticon? Decepticon. Oh, God. I don't

know on Decepticon. I'm going to go to the Maximal

first. Okay. Just because I have an easier time

with that. Tigatron. Okay. Yeah. No big reason

for it. I just, it's... an appealing character,

kind of this, you know, like this, this long

enough to make my head spin, this intense loner,

you know, he doesn't really need anyone. He's,

he's perfect the way he is, but he still finds

his connection. I get an eraser and everything.

So I find it, I find that a really compelling

character as well. No, no, as far as Decepticons

go, I'm going to have to narrow down my choices

here a little bit. So Megatron now, I don't really

think Megatron is my favorite Although some incarnations

of them have been pretty interesting so, you

know, but I'm gonna skip out on that one I think

And I'm gonna have to go with actually a very

similar to a Toy Story for this one as well.

I'm gonna go with Scourge G1 Scourge Hmm. The

Autobots took the key. So you let the Autobots

beat you? I let nobody beat me. It was the energy

from that blasted chamber. It overloaded me,

then hit their ship. That plasma energy's lethal.

It nearly killed me. You will follow them, you

will get the key, and you will destroy them!

That suits me fine. Partly because that was the

first Decepticon toy I can remember getting.

As a kid and the unfortunate part is it wasn't

even the original skirt it was the target master

skirt with his partner there fracas. Right which

is a great name for a gun fracas. But yeah i

think i want to go with that cuz cuz when i was

sick again i always i want to be the autobots

more than anything else so i didn't identify

with the decepticon characters as much. As i

did the autobot ones. Because I can look at like

any of the Autobot like the characters and figures

that I picked up and it's like, okay, I remember

that character. I remember I liked him because

of X reason or because of this or whatever. Scourge

is one of the few Decepticons I actually have

that kind of story with. So yeah, yeah, I'll

go with that. I'll go with Scourge. Very cool.

Very cool. What other characters just in general,

no specific faction, but what other characters

do you like? Beast Wars Dinobot is always a favorite

just because of the story arc that he had in

the show. That's always fun. Excuse me, are you

implying that the current situation is somehow

my responsibility? Well, you did start it, gearhead.

I beg to differ, cheese lips. Pre -evolved bird

brain, eater of garbage. Sheesh, they call me

the immature one. Fort Max and the IDW comics

continuity, I loved his portrayal in that. That

was really, really good. Uh, Springer was always

an interesting character that I liked to see,

but didn't always like his interactions. He was

kind of a dick in the cartoon. Yeah. He's a,

he's a little homewrecking mofo, as he is. Like,

how dare you, you know, cockblock the future

leader of the Autobots. I knew I'd get you with

that one. Oh boy, are there any Transformers

characters you hate? Hmm I've actually never

been the biggest fan of retgar And it's a little

bit of a weird take it's not that I hate his

like character design or anything like that I

I think that I I tend to latch on to language

a little bit and like how people talk and like

the perspectives you get with with people and

how they talk and Trying to listen to retgar

is just. It. It's a it's a it's a literal pain

to listen to. It's like what the it's like I'm

I have to translate what he's saying in my head

and it's like all right, this this this does

not appealing. Just shut up. I want to hear you

no more. I'm a pepper. Would you like to be a

pepper too? News at 11 don't touch that dial.

No touch the dial switch Switch off a record

son of a bitch out of even though we probably

Go to this character more just because again

Sort of a kid character kind of thing But between

the two language bots that have issues with the

Autobots, between Rekgar and Wheelie, I'll take

talking TV over rhyme time any day. Yeah, yeah.

You know what? I'll actually preface it with

this. Wheelie, when done right, can actually

be interesting to listen to because when they

did his voice. A lot of times they did it with

a kind of musicality to it, which is interesting

to hear. But with Rekgar, it feels like the intentionally

clipped and cut parts of his dialogue as they

were going through the editing process. So it

almost feels like they increased the gain or

decreased the gain to increase volume at times.

So it feels very disjointed. to my ears. And

I hear the name Eric Idle and Rekgar. And I'm

like, yeah, I can think of a million other movies

that that guy has been in. And other than the

fact of hearing the character name first, I would

not imagine that Eric Idle is the voice, the

original voice of Rekgar. Yeah. Also, like when

I see him in like a Monty Python skit, I still

cannot identify which one's Eric. There's a bunch

of them on there. I mean, there's a bunch of

names. When I see the credits, I'll recognize

half the names. It's like, oh, OK. Oh, all right,

cool. Yeah, that's all good. I still can't pick

out which one he is. I was too young. at the

time and I never got like, I know, sir, like,

I know the French taunter. Like I know that skit,

but I've never. I don't know. I'm one of those

people that if I've been exposed to it before,

like if I saw it as a kid, I would revisit it

as an adult, but it's not some, and it's no disrespect.

I just. Over your lifetime as you got older,

did your interest in the Transformers franchise

grow stronger or get weaker? I think everyone

who grew up with G1 did have that period in the

90s where interest just waned because very little

was being created. And the same thing was true

for me too. So once the G1 series ended, because

when I was... Growing up, I watched the cartoons.

I wasn't really aware of the comics until much

later in life. Same. Yeah. So when the cartoon

series ended and then switched over to the G2

SpaceCube version, it just wasn't anything else

out for me to do. And of course, without that

being in the zeitgeist for the world, or for

America at least, I lost interest. I didn't pick

it up again. Well, no, sorry. I did like pick

up bits and pieces here of G2. So I picked up

like a full Constructicon set in G2. It was the

first complete combiner that I ever did. And

it was like six figures, like four, five bucks

a piece. And it was like $30, which of course

was a fortune for me at the time. But yeah, I

don't think I had anything else for G2 aside

from the repainted Constructicons. And it wasn't

until... And let's face it, there was no real

G2 cartoon. They just slapped on an interesting...

This is our new animatic feature. Oh, and by

the way, here's G1 recycled. Yeah. So there was

no real... There were G2 toys and there were

G2 comics and things like that, but we never

got. a Generation 2 cartoon. Absolutely. And

it's unfortunate, too. But I mean, I'm sure Hasbro

just looked at the sales and said, hey, you know

what? It's just not worth pursuing as much anymore.

Yeah. It's better if we just, you know... Use

the power of the cybernetic space cube The computer

enhanced story like and you got to think that

was what? 92 90 somewhere between 91 and 94 that

they were re airing those because it was it was

definitely way before Beast Wars came along and

I remember as a kid like I remember as a kid

like oh He man and both he man and Shira had

ended by 87. Mm -hmm And I was like, OK, that's

done. 1990 comes along. He man's back. And I'm

like, OK, 10 year old me looks at it takes one

look at that intro and like new adventures of

he. This is not. Where is Castle Grace with space?

Skeletor? No, not even going to happen. So by

the time 91 to 94 rolls around. Oh. Work you

know by 91 I had my own Apple to GS at home and

we had all the modern Apple computers at the

time in schools and stuff and everything else

and it's like Computer enhanced stories. I saw

this episode like six years ago So yeah, no it's

not It's funny. I was actually just talking with

the the rest of the Empire Russ cast about human

when we recorded last weekend I was mentioning

the new adventures of He -Man and no one had

any idea what I was talking about. Like we've

already said, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, those

are going to be someone who is 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,

11, 12. That's going to be somebody's introduction

in the early 2000s. The same thing can be said

about... I don't know why, but the new adventures,

that only really requires people who were our

age at that time of being six, seven, eight,

nine in the eighties. Sure. God, that cartoon.

All right. Was there ever a moment in your life

when you were just through with everything Transformers?

You're like, nope, I'm done. I'm out. Get rid

of it all. Not really, at least not by choice.

Like I said, the early 90s were just a dearth

of content. I was out of it then because no one

was making shit. Again, it wasn't really an intentional

choice of saying, no, I'm done with this kid

stuff, I'm done with this nonsense, and that's

that. I think the closest time I've ever come

in my life, honestly, is... Patently like not

true either is like is like now because I actually

sold off a Good chunk of my collection like I

sold off a good chunk of like the unicorn figures

that I've had The unicorn trilogy figures not

the unicorn figures. Yes. Yes Yeah, I mean if

you were sitting there selling, you know has

lab unicorns You'd be rich because you know 600

bucks a pop Yeah, yep I mean, that's going for

like almost two grand nowadays, too. So, you

know, I kind of wish I picked up like two or

three of these things. Just to resell. I mean,

seriously. Oh, yeah, I know. But oh, my God,

I can't even. So as of this recording, this episode

is going out. In a couple of weeks, but as we

were here, as I am speaking the sound of my voice,

you're not hearing the sound of my voice, but

as of this recording later in, I believe it's

July 21st and hopefully this episode will be

out by then or before then GameStop has the shared

exclusive of Funko Pop Jumbo Unicron based on

the HasLab Unicron I'll go to GameStop, I'll

buy a Funko pop, a Unicron, I don't need to spend

no 600 bucks. 40 bucks for a 10 -inch figure?

Great, I don't need a figure that's 70 feet,

I know it's not 70 feet tall, but... I think

you're exaggerating just a little bit there.

Well, and the thing of it is, is look, don't

get me wrong, I think it's absolutely amazing

that we finally do have a... plant like fully

functional planet and robot unicorn for. The

transformers that's absolutely amazing considering

what was made almost forty years ago and since

then until the has lab thing came around but

i'm sorry half the time even the people i knew

that were backing unicorn. I don't know where

i'm gonna put this here how am i gonna display

this where am i. I'm like, just put it in planet

mode and put it in a corner, you know, the corner

ceiling of your room. Well, it's funny you even

mentioned that because I picked up the fans toys

Cerebros, like masterpiece figure that came out.

And, you know, I'm looking at this thing in head

mode and like the Fort Max from that is supposed

to be like almost four feet tall. And it's like,

I were that's like child size. Where am I going

to store a child in here? Yeah. That's not, no.

That's not saying I'm not going to get it. Right.

I mean, but still, it's like, hmm. I totally

am. Just, I got to figure something to put it.

Yeah, exactly. You just got to, yep. Find a corner,

pop the kid in the corner. Yeah. It's like those,

and I don't know, I was never like... I've only

ever seen i think i maybe have been into the

one of these stores once in my entire sharper

image and sharper images they used to have like

life -size standees of like spider -man and batman

and things like that and that's great okay i

can put that in a corner and it'll be fine and

it'll be out of the way but the whole point of

has lab unicorn and what you're saying was three

bros and fort max at all. The whole point is

you eventually do want to transform them between

the two modes. I mean, we're not going to sit

here as 40 something year olds and, you know,

be like, you know, Rick Moranis in Spaceballs.

Speak for yourself there, buddy. You did not

see me playing with my dolls again. That's right.

I got to figure out some place to actually put

that in. One, assuming it ever even comes out

in the first place. Let's be honest here. Yeah,

that's true. Yeah, just finding some place to

put it, it's going to be a challenge. Yep. With

the internet giving birth to the fans all having

a voice about what they like or don't like about

transformers, do you find that your voice gets

lost in the shuffle or do you just shout louder?

Nope. I'm not the kind of person to really jump

into online arguments either. It's like once

it starts getting like, hey, no, this person

said this and this says this, I'm done with this.

I have enough drama in my life. I don't need

to add fandom drama to that. Consequently, no

one really hears my voice as much. Yeah, because

you're always behind the mic. Most of the time.

True. Yeah. Yeah. But it's fans in any fandom,

but especially in Transformers. I think the big

fandoms, for example, like Star Wars. I don't

want to lump Transformers into the same category

as Star Wars, because it's clearly not in the

same category. But once you start getting into

medium to large size fandoms, there's so many

differing opinions that you can't possibly please

everyone for it. And people are going to have

opinions, and people are going to be angry, slash...

Happy slash indignant with everyone else around

them. So And then the thing of it is is like

I Eventually and I say this all the time and

sadly it never gets done But I eventually on

our main geek cast radio feed, which is our overall

general network show I want to do an episode

about Like How can you Enter a fandom with it

being like that's the thing like. Oh i've never

really mentioned anything about why i like insert

fandom name here but i would love to start talking

to those people and you go let's say on whatever

form it is insert form name here and they always

have this introduce yourself thread hi my name

is mike i'm like how are you okay you know. I

like this about this fandom. That's just what

I like. This is who I am, you know, and then

like seven hours later after you've posted that

and gone to bed, somebody's come in, come in

there and given you like a syllabus of reasons

of why you're wrong for liking which and I'm

like. Nobody is wrong for liking or disliking

what they like or dislike. Fandom. I actually

wonder if it's a very intentional thing for some

people to not try to like, so I think whenever

you're part of a group, like a community, that

community becomes part of your identity and becomes

part of who you are for better or worse. And

when you see someone come in after the fact and

expect to kind of get the same, the same benefit

or the same kind of like feeling that you get

from the fandom, I think for, for some people,

and honestly, for a lot of people, it's, it's

threatening to them to some degree. It's not.

It's very, and I, we have this conversation.

Every episode of the origins because with this

question and i give the same spiel every time

and that's fine but. Fandoms today. It's like.

It's twenty years ago and we're all still in

high school like everybody has a click everybody

has a whatever everybody like if you have a just

a transformers board with. Every single generation

as a thread so g1 g2 beast wars beast machines

the Japanese shows and toys and stuff Unicron

trilogy with their three things animated movie

whatever you go into which ones you like or which

ones you want to participate in and that's fine,

but You know Some people who participate in all

of it may go into those and be like, and this

doesn't happen too often. Most of the forums

I've been on, everybody has been civil, but 10,

15 years ago, nobody was really super civil because

we weren't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, yeah.

So, all right. Switching gears a bit. What is

your Transformers personal anthem song? Examples

are, but you don't have to pick one of these,

Stan Bush, The Touch, Dare, etc. I think The

Touch is just so iconic to the Transformers as

a fandom, especially for people our age, that

you can't not pick it. But I will say that it's

not my favorite kind of like Transformers song

of all time. To actually go that road, I would

have to actually pick some of the Japanese openings

and closing themes. I actually really enjoy them

for what they are, which is kind of strange because

like a lot of the US openers and the US theme

songs, they're not really like, they're okay.

but they're not really like my thing. Yeah. Partly

because they were designed as, you know, as like

30 second like openers, whereas a lot of the

the openers for like Jap for the Japanese series

actually turns out to be like full on songs in

their own right. And the the victory opening

theme I think is probably one of the better ones

out of that. So That's along with the soundtrack

of the 86 movie really does like tend to be my

Like my go -to tends to be the thing that I kind

of like the most out of a transformers music

Very cool not counting, you know, like fan remixes

and stuff like that. Like I've been on like like

the Shit was the website the overclocker I'm

blanking this there's a yeah, I'm forgetting

about the actual damn But it's like overclockers

or over mix or something like that and they it's

it's a forum where they do a lot of covers of

gaming music But they also will you'll you'll

find like transformers remixes as well. And yeah,

there's a bunch of stuff on there. That's really

good Very cool. Very cool How often do you go

back and rewatch any of the transformers cartoons?

The last one I did a rewatch of was the Japanese

series, and that was probably three or four years

ago. I find it difficult to watch G1 again just

because they, you know, I love the series, but

let's be honest, objectively, they just weren't

good episodes at the time. I mean, they were,

but I think now... With us, you know, seeing

the franchise 40 years in the rare view, the

way I always say it is I won't ever watch all

98 again straight through. I will pick certain

ones here and there, and I may watch them again

straight through at some point in the future.

But I recently did that last year, but like,

it's more of, Oh, I have a, like, I want to remember

what happened to, to. Slingshot in war dawn or,

you know, how arrogant Rob Paulson was, you know,

kind of thing. Or, you know, oh, I want to, you

know, I need to, I need to hear, may the man

rest in peace. I need to hear Dick Gaudier tell

me, you know, you know, why'd I have to be the

chosen one kind of thing? You know, it's just

one of those things where it's like, An episode

here or there is more than fine and you get the

gist of it. I think if you watch at least one

episode per season, you get the gist of all four

seasons. Sure. And I think part of my deal with

the two is when I go back and watch older cartoons

and older animation, I'm actually right now I'm

doing that with the Japanese Voltron. uh, the

beast king go lion series and I i'm doing it

because I thought Or I I know for a fact that

For the us release of ultron. They tore the thing

up edited You know cut huge chunks of it out

for content and for Objectionable material and

everything. So I I know they they destroy they

just destroy the dub of it Yeah, so I wanted

to actually watch the original source material

thinking, you know what, this is actually going

to be like, the storyline will make sense. There

will be a lot, you know, a lot less serialized,

a lot less episodic. There'll be like continuity

between everything. No, no, there wasn't. It's

not any better than the US Voltron. It just has

some, like you actually see people die on screen.

Yeah. Okay. And that's the thing, obviously,

when that was made and when it was imported over

here. Standards, boards, practices and all that

and everything else. Yeah. I thought it was kind

of cool that Sven didn't die, that he just kind

of went off on his own little adventure or whatever

it was that happened. Yeah, the funny is I only

like, I remember the pilot. But after that, all

is I ever remember is a Laura being there. I

don't ever remember Sven being there kind of

thing. Like I didn't even remember a lot of the

times when he would come back. You know, because

nothing after the pilot, nothing happened. It

was just the same episode. And this is why I

started watching the Japanese series was because

I was hoping that there'd be more content to

it, more variety. And it's not. I mean, it does

the same exact thing that the US release does,

just, again, slightly grittier. And that's one

of the reasons why I have such trouble kind of

going back and watching 80s animation. I can

do it with Transformers because I'm familiar

enough with it. I know the content, I know the

stories. It's like, all right, you know, I'm

watching it for nostalgia. But if I try to do

that for something that I didn't watch when I

was a kid, ooh, no, there's no. See, and that's

the thing. And I've said this in many other episodes

that I've recorded in the last, I want to say

year and a half or so. To me, the 80s was a plethora

of content. That we eventually came across and

watched so maybe we may not have watched it when

it released But you know you start at I think

GI Joe starred in 82 or something like anyway

Like if you if you just started 83 you got he

man 84 you got Voltron and Transformers 85 you

got Shira Thundercats 86 you have So this is

just television stuff, you know get silver hogs

87 you got turtles 88 you have this that yeah,

you know you have a good almost five to eight

years of content that if the show ends, you can

gradually as a child move on to the next thing.

And obviously the eighties is all about fads

and everything else and what's the next new thing.

And oh my God, these mutant turtles with this

guy that looks like a can opener and their master

is a... It is a rat? How does that work? That

was the second of two scheduled can opener jokes

tonight. Wait, what was the first? The first

one was before we started recording. Oh, that's

right. That's true. I didn't say both were going

to be on stream, right? That's true. Yeah. He

-Man was the first, actually. He -Man was the

first of the 80 series. G .I. Joe was after that.

Well, because I always remember the toy for G

.I. Joe started in 82, and then later is when...

The only reason I remember that was because I

actually taught a history of animation class

for quite a while. Oh, cool. Yeah. Very awesome.

Had to spend an entire class on the history of

80s animation. Oh boy, here's hoping everybody

passed that one. All these kids were born after

like 1990. That's the thing and I've been I want

I'm gonna say this on a future podcast at some

point from another show, but These Reboots and

remake just in general reboots and remakes like

Come on just show them the original material

as it was intended Like what I can just think

of off the top of my head is somebody One of

my friends was like, Oh, I'd love to see a modern

day version of it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

And I'm like, why? There are no comedic actors

as good as, you know, Spencer Tracy and Jimmy

Durante and Milton Berle. Like there are great

comedic actors today, and this is a whole non

-transformers discussion, but it's just one of

those things where like, I just saw. Who's the

boss sequel like seriously wait at least they

got oh you you didn't see this So wait, is it

a reboot or a sequel? No, it's and this is so

not transformer So I will have to cut all of

this out. Let me see here 51 54 edit out for

unintended. Who's the boss content? Uh, this

is from Hollywood reporter. This is June 28th.

Who's the boss? Sequel lands at Amazon's free

V. First of all, why does Amazon have to have

free V? They have anyway, uh, the update of the

84 to 92 sitcom will feature original stars,

Alyssa Mulatto and Tony Danza. Uh, sequel to

the 1980 sitcom. Who's the boss is headed to

Amazon's free V the project and development for

almost two years. Has original series stars Milano

and Danza attached to reprise their roles. One

day at a time, alums Mike Royce and Brigitte

Moise -Libowitz have also come on board as writers,

blah, blah, blah. The new take will focus on

Milano's Samantha, a single mother who lives

in the same house where she grew up on the original

series. Her retired dad, Tony, lives with her.

There's no word yet on whether Judith Light and

Danny, whatever his name, will reprise their

roles as Catherine, who also starred in the original,

died in 2012, and that she passed away. So who

was asking for this? That's what I want to know!

Okay, see, I'm not going to come down as harsh

on remakes as you are. I mean, some of them work

and I'm okay with them, but like the whole thing

with, and trust me, I live on nostalgia. Don't

get me wrong. I absolutely do. But the thing

of it is, is for the current generation that

is not me, for the kids and the young adults

and the teenagers and the, you know, they need

things that are not just rehashes of, you know.

I'll agree with that. They certainly need their

own original content, and while I'm not opposed

to a remake or a reboot or something like that,

it has gone ridiculous and out of hand in the

last 20 years. Yeah, it has. That being said,

I don't mind Transformers reinventing itself

every couple of years for a new series. Okay,

sure. It's a continuing Fandom a continuing thing

but yeah, like who's the boss? No one's fucking

asking for that. No one When was the last time

you had a conversation with someone and they

said, you know what I need who's the boss remake?

Like some of them have been I'll say passable

because I don't want to say good and It's okay.

And it's as long as they get the original stars

back, I'm more than on board to at least check

out a first episode. But if it's like, oh, guess

what? We're going to take 90210 and put. I insert

whatever famous male and female. I don't want

to. I'm trying to because I'm too old, folks.

I don't know these things. I don't know who's.

Popular now besides the fact that you old ass

Johnny Depp and any anyway down that road you

don't know who the hip kid the hip actors are

nowadays. Hey I'm kids with their hip and in

there hopping pull up your pants you damn morons

and get off my lawn. Some of the remakes and

reboots have been okay but. like Yeah, who's

really yeah, I and that's like the weirdest thing

like I've thought about rewatching who's the

boss. Oh, it's good. It's it's free on to be

currently So at least it is streaming that's

a statement. I have never made in my entire life

I need to do a who's the boss of a rewatch? Like

I'm not going to watch all eight seasons in the

specials, but like re -watch the pilot just to

like, you know, like. Back in my day when six

disc DVD changers or CD changers were a thing

kind of thing where you would put in like, Oh,

I'm going to randomize these six DVDs and you're

going to get an episode of perfect strangers.

You're going to episode of who's the boss. You're

going to get an episode of taxi. You're going

to get an episode of Knight Rider, eight human

airwolf. Like that's fine. Great. Whatever. But

like, I'm like, Yeah, generally, like I, until

I saw that, like literally until I saw that article,

I'm like, I haven't thought of that in years.

And I see Milano on Twitter and everywhere and,

and all that. And please tell me my app did not.

No, it didn't lie to me. It just didn't show

it to me. Okay. Well, there you go. I don't know.

I just, yeah, basically remakes like. Normally,

I don't really try, try my best not to have a

hard opinion on them, but I'm just getting so

tired of them that it's hard and not like, how

are we supposed to, even us old people, how are

we supposed to like new things and find new things

when you keep, and I'm not counting Transformers

because Transformers is, like you already said,

it constantly has different. They're not trying

to redub Peter Cullen from the 80s to, you know,

to reshow like Generation 3 through the cybernetic

internet hole or whatever. You know what I mean?

Like, well, you know what I mean? Like they're

not trying, like they're not doing that. They're

having new series. They're going the cheap route

by using Netflix, which gives them no budget

and, and, and all that. And don't get me wrong.

Those actors are like, I love. Marnosh's Megatron,

that's one of the greatest Megatrons I've ever

heard sassy Megatron. Yeah What's your what's

your thought on like the like all the Star Trek

series? It'll come out like discovery strange

new I am not the, you need to be asking Steve

Megatron that he is the Star Trek guy of the

two of us. I am a casual Trekkie at best. I grew

up on, I almost said new, I almost said new generation.

I'm like, what the fuck is new generation? I

grew up on next gen and I watched several episodes

of DS9 here and there. My first. Star Trek film

and theater is was first contact. So I was never

one of the best ones. So good choice Obviously,

yeah But yeah, no, I'm I'm not the person you

you can more than definitely get an hour and

a half out of Steve Megatron on on his opinions

of Of the Star Trek stuff and you'll be fully

satisfied. Sadly, that's not me Let's see here

this I recommend that you try out lower decks

Cause it is because it's so light and so easy

to get into. And then it's like 10 episodes,

like there are 20 minutes a piece and you're

done. Isn't that McFarland though? Isn't that

Mr. Family Guy? No, that's the Orville. Oh, okay.

Well, which, which isn't, isn't a bad show. I'm,

I'm optimistic about the next season, but I will

agree that I don't like him as a captain. Yeah,

I don't even know. I can't even give you an opinion

on that because I don't. If a new Kelvin Universe

film comes out, great. Fine. I'm all on board

for that. But other than that, I leave Star Trek

to the professionals and edit me. All right.

One hour, 15 seconds, 16 seconds, edit point.

Coming up next, we all love Transformers comics

when which in God, that sucked. God damn it.

One hour, 30 seconds edit. We all love Transformers

comics. Which incarnation do you love and why?

There's only one correct answer to this, and

that is the more than me. See, I lost light era

of IDW. It's the only correct answer. I will

agree, but I will say that RID and Optimus Prime

are also good in their own way. That's actually...

I'm sorry, I made a mistake. The Modern BCI and

the Robots in Disguise era. of it. That's what

I'm talking about. Those two series, the - Yeah,

phase two. Yeah. The fantasy elements, the fantasy

aspect of the modern ACI, that was great. All

the character development you get going on there

and all the political machinations and robots

in disguise. Love that. Yeah. Absolutely. That's

the only correct answer. And I will fight anyone

who disagrees. Marvel who? Marvel what? How big

is your Transformers toy collection? Why is it

always about size? That's what Starscream said.

I will put it this way. I sold off in the last

three months 140 figures. Okay. I still have

over a thousand. Okay. How do you keep track

of all of that? It was a couple of years ago,

I started keeping a spreadsheet of the figures

that I picked up, partly just so I didn't pick

up any duplicates or anything like that, but

also just to keep track of how much I'm spending

on it, because I don't want this to take up $3

,000, $4 ,000 a year out of my life. Yeah. I

mean, I buy a significant amount of figures.

I get that. But at the same time, I don't want

to be the kind of person who is like, all right,

here's 20 % of my income going to Transformers.

So I keep a budget and I keep track of how much

I spend on it. So that's why I know the exact

amounts. Very cool. It's just safe. Exactly.

How do you feel about non -transforming transformers

like Funko Pops? To be fair, I actually have

a bunch of like non -transforming figures. I

got a bunch of statues I have a couple of like

the busts and the unicorn statue from What was

it hard hero? From like is that the one with

him and hot rod and RC and it's the movie poster

thing No, no, no, you're uh, what are you thinking

of? I? Think you're you're thinking of one of

the early McFarlane ones that they did maybe

yeah dia the the hard hero ones were like very

Animation centric very animation character model

heavy and they started off just doing busts of

them. So like the busts of Prime and Megatron,

I got a hot rod in there too. So I got a bunch

of those. I got a unicorn statue from them. I

got a couple of like action masters and stuff,

but I'll put it this way. I don't mind them,

but I much prefer buying non -transformers themed,

non -transforming robots. Okay. Well, for example,

Bandai, I think it was, put out a couple of action

figures of Gundams. I have a bunch of Gundam

models that I put together, but in the end, the

action figures they put together were really

well detailed, nicely articulated, and I enjoyed

that. I enjoyed them quite a bit. That's the

kind of stuff that I like buying non -transforming

figures of. If I'm going to buy a transforming

character of any kind, I'd want to pick up an

actual transforming version of it. So I'm not

going to say I'm opposed. It's like, you know,

it's okay. It is what it is. Generally not for

me, but they're okay. They're okay. Let me guess.

You're a big fun go -pop head, right? Oh yeah.

I just want the character. I don't care if it

transforms. I'm too old for play pattern. I just

want the damn character. That's fair. That's

fair. A friend of mine picked up the Red Soundwave

or the R .E .D. Soundwave from Walmart a few

months back. I got to say, it's a really cool

looking figure. It's really neat. Not something

I would have picked up for myself, but still.

I saw a picture online of some person's Funko

collection, all still in the box. They must have

had Six or seven hundred of these things all

stacked one on top of each other against the

wall and it actually Created like this kind of

like art pattern with the color of the boxes

and I thought that was pretty amazing Yeah, that's

when you get I know that because funko has changed

the boxes over time But there are a specific

set of funko star wars collectors where they're

like we want blue boxes only And, you know, once

you have the Star Wars Funko Pop blue boxes,

you can make, like I said, I currently have,

I don't even have to look at the Funko app because

I just looked at it the other day. I have 188

figures and all of them are like, I'm not buying

them because like, you're not going to see me

buying Game of Thrones Funko Pops. I watched

the first like eight minutes of that season one

episode, one of that show. And I'm like, They're

just walking. They're not doing anything. Somebody

say something. Sorry. Game of Thrones is not

my thing. But anyway, like I'm not going to sit

here and buy Funko Pops of care. Like for me,

they're care. And I've said this in every other

episode, but for me, their characters, they're.

There are action figures or inaction figures

of characters that you're never going to get

it. Like, where are you going to get a McDonald's

Grimace action figure that, you know what I mean?

Like, you can just have him stand there. Like,

you know, where are you going to get? Did they

actually make that? Funko? Yeah, I'm actually

looking right now at the five pack. It has Mayor

McCheese, Officer Mack, Grimace, Ronald and Hamburglar.

Like Batman Beyond. I love Batman Beyond. So

the fact that they've released, I think, four

total versions of Batman Beyond. One was the

original Funko body. Another one was a metallic

one that came with the Blu -ray edition of the

complete series DVD set. And then the most recent

one is just him crouching. So, you know, it's,

you know, characters. And I'm sure, and I know

there are plenty of Batman Beyond action figures

like, you know, whatever we put. Okay, little

sweet. Justin Guarini from the Diet Dr. Pepper

commercials. There are, I'm sure there are plenty

of dolls of that character, but Funko to me is

the only one that actually has an action figure

of that, you know. So it's that kind of thing.

It's more about the character, less about the

full -on playability. I can respect that. Certainly

it's Yeah, I mean it's it's not again. It's not

something for me But it's it's certainly something

that I can I can respect and I'm not going to

like yuck anyone's yums for what they collect

and what they enjoy Yep, and my computer is starting

to be stupid stop being stupid computer Hello

computer. Yes. Hello computer. Goodbye computer

I'm looking at pictures of people who made walls

out of Funko Pops. I mean, I could just make

it just a general link, but I wouldn't be able

to actually do any design stuff with it. Oh,

come on. Come on, computer. Don't do this. God

damn it. I'm going to have to edit all of this

out. If I lose you, don't go anywhere. Cause

my computer is really, I don't know why. All

I was trying to do was find something on like

a search in my file manager. It wasn't like,

I wasn't trying to do it online or anything like

that. Come on. Yeah. I do not have my My icons

at the bottom here. I only have I Mean we're

almost done. So but still like come on computer.

Okay Am I timing out am I going in and out? What's

so good? The icons are back. Yay I'm looking

at the Zen caster page and it's still still going.

It's still still going. Yeah, so that's that's

good Alright still picking you up. I did out

the math for a for this like wall of funko I'm

looking at and you'd need 410 to fill up the

wall The sad thing is to look you could actually

take a look like at the dimensions of the box

measure out like your room in your space and

figure out exactly How many you're gonna need

to fill up that wall? Oh, yeah, absolutely So

alright So, I always preface this one by saying,

everyone is safe, every human, you, every other

human you may have, visiting you, every pet,

every, everything that has any kind of rights

anymore, are all safe, but the house is on fire.

What is one Transformers toy you could never

part with ever? What's the one toy you'd run

in and save? Oh, man. it would probably be my

G1 Fort Max. If I had to just, if I could only

pick one, then yeah. There's a nice big, funny

story on this though. There's like a nice big

space like underneath Fort Max. His torso is

like, his legs are splayed really, really wide

for some reason because of the design. And it's

just a perfect easy way. Just kind of reach your

hand, boom, grab. Move up. You're done. Yep.

What is the most money you spent on a Transformers

toy or a Transformers toy item? So a toy item

could be a sketch, a drawing, a commission, or

whatever, or the most money you spent on a toy

itself. So the Fancy Toy Cerebros was $220. And

when I think about it, I'm pretty certain that

is the most I ever spent. I'm thinking back to

how much that Unicron, that Hard Hero Unicron

statue was, and I imagine it was around 150,

but I can't remember. I mean, this was like a

good like 20 years ago, too, so I, it's just,

it wouldn't have been as much as it was. But

I, yeah, I'm not kind of looking around and just

seeing which one is. is the pricier one, and

I think that's probably it. I did spend $250

on the Quantron box set, the Make Toys, the Technobots.

I'm like, the CompuPots? No. The Computex? No.

The Quantron box set was $250, but that's also

five figures. Yeah, you know individually. It's

only 50 bucks a figure But yeah single expensive

individual figure was it's got to be that that's

a rebrush figure And the sad thing is still like

as you know the cost of this stuff goes up like

over time It's just gonna get you know more.

It's just gonna get more and more expensive So

I'm kind of thinking like hey, maybe I should

take a look at how much how much things were

like back in the day and then Try to do like

the math out for inflation and see if it's like

actually if that percentage wise is the most

expensive thing I've purchased So as far as I

can tell the statue that I have been referring

to Over these past months and such was the diamond

selects Unicron or it's him on a base with quintesson

heads around it the Transformers logo is at the

front of the base Uh, and it's got Daniel and

RC and hot rod hot rod is holding the matrix

and it's got unicorns, um, tentacles stuck in,

uh, yeah. So that's the one that I've wanted

for the longest time because it was always a

cool. Oh my God. This is the, this is the fight

for Cybertron. This is the. Mmm me Grimlock kick

butt even though Grimlock isn't in this statue,

but yeah, that's the one that I've always Looked

at and was like I want that one of these days

got the listing on eBay seven hundred and twenty

dollars. Oh man Yeah, no, that's no that's a

that's a spicy one Yeah, that's a definite spicy

meatball for unicorn. It doesn't even look that

big either I mean how it's not that's the thing

It's a tiny stat. It's not tiny but it's not

like oh, it's like a desktop I'm see. Yeah, I'm

seeing it like with a stack of CDs next to it.

The thing is like what a foot tall Yeah seven

hundred dollars That's the only eBay listing

I saw when I just did Transformers Unicron Statue.

I knew if I just did that, I'd find it immediately.

I don't know. It was just always one of those

things I wanted, but not with that person. Take

a look at the Hard Hero Unicron Statue. I did.

Yeah, that's pretty good. That one is pretty

good. So, do you have a, my parents got rid of

my toys story? Ah, honestly, no. Like, I actually,

I honestly have a, I got rid of my toy story.

Obviously, because you're, you know, yeah. Well,

no, even before that, because - Really? Right

around the time when Beast Wars started, I actually

picked up a couple of Beast Wars tours and I

thought, hey, these are pretty cool. Let me go

ahead and because I had a bunch of stuff still

from back when I was a kid. I had Transformers,

I had GI Joes, I had some like Thundercats stuff.

I had the Thunder Tank and just a weird mix of

random stuff that I had gotten over like the

previous 15, 16 years. So at that point in my

life, I was Was again, I was a teenager and I

was like, all right, you know what? I'm not gonna

keep like all of this like kid stuff and I remember

one year I just did like this big purge of all

the things that were in my room that I didn't

want anymore and I For some reason I kept some

transformers, but I didn't keep others. I Kept

the ones that I thought looked cool at the time

So I had a I had a wheelie. I got rid of that

I had a tailgate, I got rid of that. I had a

top spin, I had a twin twist, just a top spin,

I got rid of that. There was just like a bunch

of random figures just like in the middle of

all the stuff. I thought, hey, this doesn't look

cool anymore. Let me go ahead and get rid of

it and donate this. Like, I don't know why I

did it, but I did. Like some Thundercats stuff

I got rid of, some old Masters of the Universe

stuff I got rid of. And yeah, it was just, I

have no explanation for why I picked certain

things and others I didn't. I kept the wheel

jack, I kept my ultra magnus. No explanation,

just like my parents didn't do it for me, I did

it to myself. Very cool, very cool. All right,

let's see here we are entering the cartoon fantasy

funland yay Did it if you could? Yeah, some some

sort of transformers sound effect if you could

voice any transformers character, who would it

be and why? Hmm Ironically enough not Fort Max.

I think I'd pick a Okay, I'm gonna give two answers.

I'll pick Perceptor because I think personality

wise it probably matches me more than anything

Okay, and I'll also pick Starscream because I

have to voice him for the Empire of Rust cast

Far more often than I would like and I've been

told I do a decent Starscream Well Talk to me

Starscream We'll get to you in due time. Don't

worry Hmm like I said decent sounds kind of I

Think it's I think it's more the inflection than

anything else. Yeah. Yeah, I Was half thinking

it was like I don't know some sort of I Don't

know what I was thinking. But yeah, that's that's

that's pretty good I can't mess like match Chris

Lauda's voice. There's no way. Well, I mean,

nobody can. I mean, I am still so years and years

ago, I we interviewed Abby Cluster, Abby Collins

Cluster, who was his daughter. And at one point,

I asked her, I said, you know, hey, can you give

us what the female version of And she's like,

oh, I can't do it today, but I never got that

from her. I so wanted to hear what the daughter

of the man would sound like as Starscream. One

of these days, I'll catch up with her and say,

hey, you remember that time I asked you about

this thing? You'll get her back, don't worry.

Yep, who is your favorite Transformers? I say

actor, but we all know their voice actors But

essentially who is your favorite Transformers

voice person? You know that that's kind of like

the weird thing like I don't pay attention to

them as much as I I feel like I should I'm gonna

have to go with with David Kay again. Just because

it's such an iconic performance That that yeah

Yeah David Kay very cool very cool what is now

this can't be anything that has been announced

or coming out and i don't know what's been announced

or coming out but i don't think there's anything

major that's going to be coming out in this line

but what is your dream masterpiece figure that

they've never done all right can can i'm gonna

i'm gonna violate the rules a little bit here

i'm gonna say fort max because He's not been

officially announced. He's been rumored, has

he? Well, no, I mean like Takara has never bothered

to do and tried to do anything with him. And

that's the thing like yeah, that's the whole

point of the question is I mean technically if

he's never been done or never been whatever that

would be your dream figure because and I'm not

gonna count fans toys until I actually See the

thing like see yeah coming together here like

I saw some renders here It's like, you know what

I can friggin do that, you know, let's let's

let's slow your roll here, buddy I say that because

I'm a 3d artist as my day job. So, you know,

I actually do have to do the kind of stuff so

Where do you stand on the rumble is blue frenzy

is red or rumble is red frenzy is blue debate

I Didn't realize it was a debate until I actually

started getting into the fandom. I didn't realize

there was a difference until I saw the comic

All right Yeah. So for me, it was like, I grew

up with the cartoon. So Rumble is always going

to be blue and Frenzy's are purpleish. Yeah.

And Frenzy's always red. Just because like I

said, for like a decade, I had for enough like

15, 16 years, like I had no idea. It's like,

this is, this is a debate. It's like, what are

you talking about? Didn't you see the cartoon?

Yeah, exactly. Cartoon logic rules all purple

and black. So yeah. Obviously, you're doing things

with Empire of Rust, but if you could create

any Transformers toy, cartoon, comic, etc., what

would it be and what story would you want to

tell with it? I would want to do something that

does not involve any of the existing characters

from the fandom. I don't want to put a Prime

or Megatron in there just because it's been done

to death, but every series has a Prime and a

Megatron and it's like, you know what, we don't...

We don't need to do this. There's so many, there's

so many opportunities for new characters and

new stories in the universe that I would like

to see something that is, that is brand new,

that is focusing on brand new characters. Uh,

and, and maybe kind of gets into. Maybe gets

into like some art. So you remember from the

the phase one of IDW the whole like infiltration

like protocol thing They did where you know,

I thought decepticons Infiltrated the planet.

I would actually like to see a story like that

not on earth on a different planet and with completely

new characters and they just kind of show like

what What happens in other parts of of the war?

Cause I find, I found that I really enjoy like

war stories like that, but not where like the

main, the main players are. Cause let's be honest,

like prime and Megatron have traditionally been

the leaders of their factions, the leaders of

the, these war efforts. And for a typical person

or for typical, like, like soldier in the war.

They wouldn't meet prime. They wouldn't meet

Megatron like they would hear about them. Maybe

they met him once or twice, but that would be

like the highlight of their lives, you know,

and that's what I like to see. I'd like to see

something that is kind of this this war story

kind of this infiltration story where they can

be robots in disguise again where the disguise

actually becomes part important because they

need to stay under the radar and Have just have

a new story have new content because that's that's

kind of where I want to see it where I want to

go Yeah, absolutely And all this flashing in

my head is okay punch counter punch perfect person

to use for this obviously he has to go to both

sides and obviously he would most likely interact

with the leaders at some point, but then my brain

goes to an old three stooges short where Two

of them end up on the Union side. One of them

ends up on the Confederate side and vice versa.

And at one point, one of them hits the other

one and says to the third one, okay, you jellyfish,

get him up and revive him. I'm like, oh God.

Okay. So we've had a lot of crossovers. We're

about to have, and I cannot, we're a couple episodes

past this, but again, as the sound of my voice

is being recorded. I just finished editing our

latest news catch -up episode where we talked

about the least excitable Transformers crossover.

I'm like, why? The three stooges crossover? No,

Transformers three stooges, that could work,

but the one that was more recently announced

a couple of months ago at this point by the time

people hear this. transformers straight fighter

what the frag is that like whatever that's not

even new either I mean it's before with when

shit was it's it's it's that gold Titans return

molds isn't it yeah I don't know why they're

bringing this this this but I don't know I don't

know All right, last question before we exit

the cartoon fantasy land. If you could, and this

is based off of the IDW colony worlds, so if

you could live on any Transformers world, quote

unquote, that you wanted, and obviously it should

go without saying, yes, you can breathe on the

planet as a human, which world would you want

to live in? See, I was going to ask, can I actually

be a Transformer from living there? Okay, Fort

Max. That's actually a good question. I think

it would come down to either Caminus or division.

Caminus because I think there'd be a lot more

welcoming of people than many other places, but

also I think division because they would kind

of be close to my size. Feel a little bit more

interactable with them Remind me about division

because I don't That was the planet of Micromaster

combiners. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. I got it now.

Yeah Yeah, anyone that says velocitron to me.

I'm like I was built for comfort. I was not built

for speed That's that's kind of thinking about

there's no way I'd be able to keep up with any

of them That's what I say like if you let me

be a transformer That might be kind of neat.

Yeah, yeah. What is the one piece of trans...

Fuck, I keep fucking this. I've been doing this

since 2016. You'd think I know how to say...

What is one piece of advice that you would give

the Transformers fandom and Transformers collectors

in general? The fandom? Just calm the fuck down.

It's gonna be okay. No matter what they release,

it's not going to be the end of the world. And

if there's something that you don't like, just

give it some time. It'll get reimagined and you'll

be fine. Collectors? I guess probably the piece

of advice that I wish I got when I started collecting,

and that would be focus your collecting on the

things that you enjoy. Because I found that when

I started collecting, I bought everything. And

it's like, all right, you know, cool. And luckily,

I started collecting at a time when that was

financially possible. Right. Yeah. Nowadays,

that's no way in hell that's possible. But over

time, like I've noticed that. Like there's so

many more, there's so many more figures and so

many more series that have come out. Like I can't,

even if I wanted to, I can't possibly collect

everything. Yeah, we can't catch them all. This

isn't Pokemon. Yeah, exactly. So I guess the

piece of advice then is to again, focus your

collection on what you want and what you like

and you know, stick with that. Don't try to get

everything. Get the stuff you think looks cool.

Get the stuff that you think will have high resale

value later on. Get the stuff for the characters

you like. Whatever your goal is, just be sure

that you have a goal to your collection because

otherwise it's just going to become this amorphous

mass of figures that you're then going to have

to deal with later on. Absolutely. I mean, I

picked up like everything from the original RID

series and it's like I haven't touched these

figures in months, if not years. It's one of

the reasons I sold the Unicron trilogy collection

I have. It's because I noticed like, okay, I'm

not touching these. you know the people who are

who grew up with that are getting into the disposable

income now so it's like all right let's let's

go ahead and sell that now and have them have

a collection that they like you know from from

stuff they grew up with yep absolutely yeah usually

that's that's you know most of the i mean especially

with the you know what's the one piece of advice

for the fandom The calm the fuck down is always

the answer because seriously. Yeah. People calm

the fuck down. These are, these are toys. They're

pieces of plastic. It's, it's cartoons lit. If,

if Transformers went away tomorrow, your life

is not going to end. It's okay. You know, the

only time it was still there, but there wasn't.

like we've already said in the past hour or so

there was nothing new like from 88 to 96 like

there really wasn't there were the g2 toys but

there was no anime there was no new animation

that wasn't you know just recycled in a cybernetic

space cube all right before i get any more you're

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of Optimus Prime kicking Ramjet's ass or whoever

that green jet was, Skyquake or whatever the

hell it was, and then you're going to just, oh,

here's more than meets the eye part one. I'm

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