Transformers Animated and Movie Discussion

You're listening to All Things Transformers,

episode 22. I'm your host, Steve slash Megatron,

and joining me is what usual is... Mike from

CFG1, hello. Howdy. How was your weekend? Uh,

not long enough. You say that all the time. Yes,

and as usual, still not long enough. Yes. Um,

there really is... That much going on as far

as news so this episode probably will be the

shortest we've ever done Most of the no news

is toy stuff and you guys can just go to the

websites and look at it I don't even Because

I don't support the movie line. I'm not gonna

talk about the movie line, so I have nothing

against the movie line But I don't care to buy

them because they don't resemble anything transformers

There's Zords from Power Rangers for Christ's

sake those look more robotic I Mean these look

like something on a Terminator almost Well the

problem with the movie line is they are so true

to the movie design that they made up with You

know all the moving parts being able to be seen

Yeah, it's been a slow weekend. I've done I finished

up The movie roundtable episode that's that's

done I still have to create an episode order

which I will do later on today after I've gotten

some more sleep after we finish recording this

See I recorded with geek tyrant you can follow

it's geek tyrant calm, but it's a We talked about

movies and box office and stuff like that talked

about Wolverine and all that crap and I won't

be going to see it and I won't be Redboxing it

most likely. I I just not interested in hell

x x3 looks better than this thing That's what

I've heard from various people. I however am

not going to see the movie in theater I'll wait

until I can get it on my netflix queue Yeah,

yeah, I don't know I've heard problems with the

way that they Designed the claws and you would

think that Fox has been doing the the x -men

movies for the last three movies Obviously they

have the rights to the characters apparently

I wish Marvel would just buy the rights from

Fox buy them back and do their own x -men movie

like what they did with Iron Man and the Hulk

because Marvel knows Obviously they know how

to make good movies. I mean because obviously

it's their characters But I don't think that's

gonna happen of course and again everything Fox

touches goes to hell Yep I'm surprised Marvel

hasn't taken over the X -Men series from Fox

It's got to be something like a certain set amount

of year deal it probably is that that Fox owns

those characters which I don't see how Fox okay

I understand there's a difference between movie

rights and comic rights and all that shit but

I don't see how Fox can own Marvel comic book

characters I can see how Marvel would license

them out but not you know not like quote -unquote

let other people own them that makes no sense

whatsoever They probably just haven't licensed

Yeah, but anyway, that's what I've been doing

this weekend. I watched animated Really enjoyed

it I know sentinels the the Autobot you you love

to hate But I wish they would have at least given

him a little bit more character development instead

of last week where he gets all this character

development with finding out that Alita -1 is

gone and is, you know, she's Black Arachnian

now, and then this week he's back to his old,

you know, ungrateful, over -the -top... Do -she

-self. Yes. Um, we did see Perceptor and Alpha

Trion. Again, I still cannot get over the voice

for Perceptor. It sounds like they got Microsoft

Bob or something to record the voice, like some

generic voice off of the Microsoft speech enabled

program. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I... I'm actually

coming around to animated now that I have the

Transform and Rollout season 1 and season 2 DVDs.

It's not... I don't dislike it as much as I did

it first and that's only because I now know it

was not intended to be a continuation of the

first live action movie. When I first heard about

TFA, I was like... Okay, they're gonna basically

continue the storyline from the movie now granted

the storyline from the first movie is alright

But how the hell are you gonna animate around

that or whatever? And I just I wasn't thrilled

with it whatsoever and of course you know the

first two seasons Aired at 1030 in the morning

on Saturdays, and I'm like okay I would just

never remember never remember to watch it never

remember to DVR it So and then you know now I

have the DVDs. It's not the It's not the best

TF series, but it's up there higher than The

unicorn trilogy or rid yeah I'd probably rank

it four out of five As far as like obviously

number one two three four five. I would probably

put it at number four So it's kind of weird that

it's almost It's almost over, supposedly. I'm

still holding out hope because I haven't heard

official word from anywhere, anybody saying that

it's gone. I mean, until Cartoon Network has,

bro, or Derek J. Wyatt himself on Twitter says,

well, sorry, folks, it's gone. It's dead. You

know, until that happens, I'm still holding out

hope for season four. Yep. There's only three

episodes left this is why I hate machines and

endgame part one and two So this is why I hate

machines is probably gonna be a fan zone episode

Most likely considering he's only been in season

three once or twice his background I think he's

I think he's been in a couple episodes. Oh, he

was in the What was the one they had somebody

arrested and taken away? Return of... Yeah, it

was at the end of Transwarp when they took Headmaster

away. He was there in that. This past week, Decepticon

Era, there was a whole bunch of G1 references

and cameos, and Swindle directly says the Quintessons

and everything else, so I mean... You know, I

like what they're doing. I mean season three

has really turned me around to the rest of the

series. It's not as It's not as bad as I first

thought Yeah, I have to agree with you on that

because I kind of I started out watching it full

force and then As time went on I kind of just

lost interest Yeah, so well it's like I said

I think Think that eight I think switching from

the 1030 in the morning on Saturday to the 8

a .m. Time slot I think it gives people a reason

to wake up and watch a Saturday morning cartoon

I mean, you know you have a time slot of 1030

you're like oh Okay, so what if I wake up at

9 o 'clock, and I want to watch it now You know

yeah, so I think I think when they moved it to

the 8 o 'clock slot Which and probably should

ask somebody why that? that that change happened

but i think it is a change for the better oh

yeah i guess we can move away from tf a uh...

mean i don't know if this is the entire official

list, but BotCon guests now include Greg Berger,

Stan Bush, Vince DiCola, which actually, if we

had put out the episode 16 TFTM roundtable first,

that would have been a TFG1 exclusive, because

Stan originally told me that he and Vince were

going to be performing together at BotCon. David

Kay will be returning this year, and Weird Al

will be coming to BotCon. latest guest at BotCon

.com has up on here. So that's pretty cool. Yeah,

I would have loved to have gone this year, except

for the fact that it's on the other side of the

U .S. and I have no money to go. Yes, yes, yes,

yes. Hell, even when it was on this side of the

U .S. I didn't have any money to go and I was

driving. Well, I wasn't driving, but yeah, you

get the point. Yeah. I mean just for the hotel

like staying over just you know for the weekend

and and the and obviously two packages because

I would have to have somebody go with me to be

able to attend all the events I added it up last

year it was like 1200 bucks plus you're gonna

want to drop at least a grand in the dealer room

you know finding whatever you're gonna find if

you're an obvious you know collector of older

toys and stuff like that oh yeah so I mean you

know Off a lot of money to drop Yeah, I Don't

know what I would spend there, but I know that

I'd want to check out every little event Yeah,

oh, yeah I forget which I don't know if it was

um It might have been Michael and I discussing

it, but I don't know if it was you and I can't

remember BotCon needs to make a DVD If they made

a DVD every year of, like, all the events, like,

you can go to YouTube and you can search BotCon

2008 Hasbro Panel, and you can catch a very poor

video of the Hasbro Panel, but you're not gonna

be able to hear anything. Well, if BotCon did

it themselves, they could market it. they could

sell it for whatever they want to sell it for.

I mean, hell, I'd pay 20 bucks to see a, you

know, one to two hour BotCon DVD, you know, have

all the, have all the most important panels and

stuff like that. And, you know, have a little

bit of the dealing room and then have kind of

like fan reactions, stuff like that. But I seriously

doubt that they'll ever do that. Yeah, we talked

about that in a previous episode. Did we? I thought

it was somebody else, but I can't remember. Okay,

625 in the morning. My brain isn't awake yet.

And it probably won't be either. Yeah, we're

all pretty fried. Yes. But yeah, that would be

awesome to have a BotCon video to look back at

with the interviews after the fact. And I think

we're going to jump ship over to the Transform

of the Movie final teaser trailer, basically.

Whatever the hell they're calling it. Yeah, whatever

they're calling it. Trailer number three. It's

trailer number three, but they're calling it

final trailer, so who knows what the hell is

going on with that. Yeah, I'm not really sure.

When I first saw that first teaser or that no

not the first teaser the show s stuff I'm like,

okay, this is basically a PG -13 Megan Fox stripped

-down movie because it's half the first clip

with him with us Sam and I almost said spike

because that's what it fucking should be is spike

and not Sam The first clip was Sam and bumblebee.

She goes out and starts undressing. I'm like,

okay Yeah and then the robot stuff looks awesome

in the in the in the new trailer So that that's

that's really cool. It looks like it's gonna

be very very action -packed You know, yeah, and

it shows how Megatron comes back as well Oh,

does it? I didn't... I just watched it to watch

it. I didn't really watch it to analyze it. I

don't know. Well, some of the Khans go underwater

when they land and Megatron's down there. Yeah,

I do remember that now. Yep. I still say Shia

looks like he's on fucking drugs. Probably was.

I mean, I know he got injured during filming

and they filmed around it. But he just doesn't...

If you take the trailer, whatever teaser, trailer,

whichever trailer you want to use for a comparison

for the new movie to the DVD of the old movie.

Now, I know people age in two years, but, I mean,

the kid looks like he's... looks like he's hopped

up on meth. I mean, it's just the way it looks

to me. I don't know why. I mean it just It's

just the way he looks to me and I don't really

know why one of our For some odd reason one of

our members on the forums says that he is not

going to bother going to seeing the movie which

I think that doesn't make him a fan I mean it

I'm sure he's a fan, but I mean anybody who's

anybody who's a Transformers fan is gonna go

see this movie I mean, I sat on Geek Tyrant last

night. We were having a discussion between kid

-friendly action movies, you know, family -friendly

action movies, and action movies in general for

the summer. I guarantee you there is going to

be thousands of parents all across this country

that take their six to ten -year -old kid to

see Transformers. Granted, Transformers is not

a kid -friendly action movie, but... It's Transformers.

I mean, you've got fans everywhere that get their

wives, their kids, their girlfriends, their family

members into the fandom. Oh yeah. I mean, I was

on Skype yesterday with Pia. We were doing the

TFTM roundtable, the last clip for that, and

before we started recording, his little daughter

comes in and goes... Daddy mommy transformed

universe paraglide halfway all by herself and

he shouts out to his wife. You're learning honey

So I mean, you know, it's like It transformers

fandom is everywhere. That's bottom line issue.

And if you're a fan, I don't care, you know What

you say on forums or whatever? You're gonna go

see this movie. You're gonna be so hyped up about

it, and whatever else, you're gonna go see it

in theaters. Because it's live -action Transformers,

regardless if the story sucks, regardless if

Michael Bay is directing it. For me, as long

as Cullen does Prime, I'll go watch anything.

Oh yeah. I mean, that's just me, though. I mean,

I understand everybody's different. But, um,

you know, and hell, Welker's gonna be Soundwave.

I mean, how can you not go see that? I don't

know how that they're gonna do the whole voice

filter thing. I don't know how much of his actual

voice of Welker's real voice and the original

G1 version of Soundwave is gonna... I don't know

how they're gonna... I don't wanna say copycat,

but... That's the best way that's the best word

I can use to describe how they're gonna pull

that off But I'm still gonna go see it regardless.

Oh, yeah So I mean Only thing is I haven't seen

course lately I've only been watching Cartoon

Network and Disney Channel, but I haven't seen

a lot of the a lot of the trailer on TV. I know

it just premiered last week, but you would think

that they would show it more and more on TV as

it gets obviously closer and closer to the movie.

Yeah, I mostly see the Star Trek trailer over

this one. Well, then again, it doesn't come out

for another month. I'm sure as soon as Star Trek

comes out, TF will start kicking into high gear.

I still want to know what the official title

is because I understand it's Transformers Revenge

of the Fallen but you know people say TF2 or

Transformers 2 or whatever else I mean most sequels

have a 2 or a Roman numeral 2 or something in

it this apparently doesn't it's just Transformers

Revenge of the Fallen I don't know I think it's

as they say it is Revenge of the Fallen and that's

it But only time will tell Yep, I'm not gonna

bother making speculation on that at this point

because there's just no way to tell No And I

think you're right. I think they're just gonna

eventually win that I think Let's see. It's a

June release the DVD will probably be out Between

October and Christmas. I think that's usually

about about the It's usually about six months

on stuff like that. It'll probably just say,

like you said, transformers are into the following.

It won't even use a number or a numeral, which

I guess is fine. But for me, obviously, if you're

going to make a sequel, you have to have the

two, three, four, whatever. But that's just me.

I don't know. I'm spitting out ideas over here.

When do you guess the movie is going to come

out on DVD? Because I kind of think it's going

to come out sometime in October. Let's see. I'm

going to actually cheat and I'm going to look

at a website and see if they even have it listed

yet. If I can find the stupid tab for the website.

I think, just me personally without obviously

looking it up, I think they're going to aim it

more towards thing like probably the end of october

like halloween or thanksgiving or possibly christmas

i mean because i'm okay it's releasing june 16th

here say depending on how well it does which

i don't see it not doing well um say june july

october june july october that's skipping a few

months june july august september October five

months is is too is too short I think but it's

about what it came out after the last movie though

I don't know maybe I'm just going off the Dark

Knight releases and when they and when that came

out let's see let's see if it lists anything

this says in theaters It doesn't say It doesn't

give a projected date on video ETA calm As far

as when it will be in on DVD usually they give

Projected like a month, but since it hell it

isn't even out yet They they're not doing that

now so I don't know I personally think they're

gonna wait till Christmas time because that's

What that's when they're gonna get the big bucks

in? You know, they'll probably re -release the

toys Or probably, you know not really re -release

the toys but have them have the stores restock

the toys for the Christmas season and They'll

probably put out some sort of DVD special edition

type deals. Like I know what the first one there

the floating around somewhere on the internet

somewhere is a steel book edition of the first

of steel book to disk edition of the first one

that wasn't in stores uh... yeah i don't know

i'd i say christmas i could be wrong and then

uh... what else is going on we got any other

news um... i was actually just gonna start a

new Peace to the podcast. We'll do a discussion

episode next time. But the most popular topic

in the forums right now I would have to say is

the beatdown of Springer which started out as

high. It was originally his intro. to the site,

and from there ended up with a beat down bash

on all things Springer. Again, I would like to

welcome our member Springer, as well as everyone

else that has posted in this post, but it is

a hilarious post at that. Oh my god, yeah, it's

just nuts. For one thing he is a G1 fan, which

I commend him on that You know But it is so so

funny. I mean I may actually start Getting I

may go to the first page of the post I may copy

that link and start posting it everywhere just

to you know just to say hey read this Read this

forum post you know because it is so funny It

is at that because it keeps going and going I

Made a comment earlier this weekend. I didn't

even know I was just checking it Rampage and

had done a new post and I didn't remember if

I'd read it or not and Rampage on the forums

not rampage from the cartoon. Yeah He had made

a post and I wasn't sure if I read it or not

so I went back and I looked at it and I'm like

wait This thing has ten pages. And I even said

that and he goes, well yeah, that's why I moved

it from the newbie gathering over to Members

Hangout because obviously it's taken a... It's

probably the only forum post that we have that's

pretty much taken a life of its own. Yeah, I'd

have to say that it did. Yes, very much so. Which

is weird in itself for a high topic to turn into

that, but... Yeah, ain't that the truth I'm actually

looking at the last page now because I think

Springer added something. I don't know when this

morning. Yeah No, no, no, no, no, sorry folks,

I'm just reading the post but no Springer was

not supposed to succeed Rodimus Prime. What the

hell is wrong with this guy? I don't have to

reply to that in a minute, but yeah, I am definitely

going to this first page and I'm going to get

that link because this is just hilarious. I've

never seen a forum thread like this just sprawl

into what it just sprawled into. Oh my god. That

is so funny. And on that note, uh, we'll probably

have, uh, more, uh, like probably one or two

more ATTFs maybe before the, uh, time I get married.

Yes, the hiatus, I believe. Well, for TFG -1,

the hiatus starts this Friday. This Friday will

be... Episode 16 it will be the epic movie roundtable

episode with Stan Bush and with Several other

transformers fans. I wish I could have gotten

us all together on one day And let me just say

now for those who listen to both a TTF and TFG

one please bear with us because Episode 16 with

the fan Commentaries with myself and Steve and

Birdman and me and a few other people it's gonna

be such a jumbled mess Because I mean the audio

is gonna be you know good audio But it's just

gonna be such a jumbled mess because I have all

the same views. I mean yeah, I I you know I relate

the same views that are in our clip to to others

and they kind of bounce off and they kind of

either agree or disagree, but just bear in mind

that it's it wasn't scheduled correctly and the

reason why that was is because not everybody

has the same schedule uh... mike birdman dog

from this weekend because awesome guy he's doing

his press tour right now i think you still in

dallas he goes back up to canada i think wednesday

uh... you know he didn't have time in may because

normally we were Normally we record one week

before the release so like it would be Friday

Saturday Sunday Monday of that weekend before

the next episode release and he just wasn't gonna

have any time in May and I wanted to get him

on for his thoughts on the movie because Mike

is a true is a huge Transformers fan like we

are and and then everybody else just kind of

came together So yeah, just bear in mind we'll

we'll put some good stuff in there i did get

i did get quote -unquote official permission

from stan to use his music so uh... we do have

stan bushes blessing to put in the touch and

there and i'll probably have you put in some

other stuff uh... probably two or one and something

else i don't know i haven't figured that out

yet uh... but uh... do you have a projected dates

when you want uh... the last a t t f to be here

Know you're gonna be gone the last two weeks,

but I mean is there a Certain Saturday that you

want the last one to be well considering recording

this one early this week for this week And there

may be a following one this weekend with discussion.

Yes we'll probably have another one next week

and So the 16th, which is a sat next Saturday

Not this, not this Saturday, Saturday, but the

following week. That'll be it. Yeah. Okay. And

then, um, June 5th is when we will return, uh,

June 5th we'll return with, well, I will, with,

um, Episode 17 of TFG1, which starts Season 3

with Five Vases of Darkness. I don't know when

Michael and I are gonna record that. Um, haven't

figured that out yet. I gotta look at the calendar,

and I kinda wanna time it to where... It's not

recorded so early that it dates itself, because

I think that's part of my problem when I did

the pre -recorded episodes. They pretty much

dated themselves fairly fast because obviously

the new topics that came up, those weeks that

it was released, instead of the weeks that were

recorded, it was, yeah, so. I'm gonna get with

him and see what his schedule is. What else did

you wanna talk about? I think that's about it.

Yes, geekcastradio .com is slowly but surely

coming up. Actually, it's funny. iPhoneDocked

on Twitter, at iPhoneDocked, it's a podcast and

a website all about the iPhone. He sent me a

at reply, mention, whatever the hell they're

calling it now, about the new I know you don't

have iPhone but the new Twitterific 2 .0 and

apparently they've been working on this thing

for months and it's gonna have a whole bunch

of new features part of my problem with the current

version is it does not allow to retweet and that's

why you know when Steve Seller always says oh

retweet this or retweet that or do this or do

that and I'm like I gotta wait till I get back

to the computer, I can't do it from my iPhone

dammit. So this new version is going to have

a whole bunch of new features with the addition

of being able to log into multiple accounts at

the same time. So do not be surprised people

if you see GeekCast radio posts and Beast Unleashed

posts from me all at the same time because I'll

have all three accounts on my iPhone. Nice. Yeah,

obviously once Steve gets back from the honeymoon

and everything else, Geekcast Radio is really

going to take off. Yes. Oh yeah, we should also

mention... your your big day the big day straight

almost turned into the high threat and i put

that to a stop immediately i said this is not

going to turn into what the high threat turned

into this is somebody i forget who it was i think

it might have been rampaged made a comment about

something something weird or something or might

have been springer i don't know uh... i said

no this is not going to turn into the high threat

jumped pretty quick on that one. I jumped pretty

quick on that one. Yeah, you did too. I did not

want to not want to quote -unquote ruin the thread

seeing as how it's all about you getting married.

But yeah, hopefully the site and the forums don't

go to hell while you're gone. I guess I can pretty

much up my administration stuff. kinda watch

out for crap and keep a certain stiff pret under

control or I could just anger him to the point

where he just doesn't want to come back I can

be very mean okay calm down with that that's

funny though And I think on that note, we're

going to end this episode. Well, at least it

wasn't a train wreck. No, definitely not. It

was very, very funny. So I guess we will see

you folks later. Yep, this is Steve slash Megatron

signing off. Bye.