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Interview with Carter Mann on Comic Reading Origins and Creating Immortal Orphans

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About this Episode

Carter Mann joins TFG1Mike to discuss his journey from comic book collector and artist to published comic creator. He shares how he first discovered comics through his cousin at age eight, his love for Jim Lee's art and 90s X-Men, and why he initially pursued art over reading story. Mann talks about his film degree at 26, his submission to Image Comics at 29, and how he finally began seriously pursuing comics creation at 45. He discusses his ongoing sci-fi series Immortal Orphans—its themes, characters like Ganyan and Hernia Man, the creative process, and his switch from traditional paper to digital work. He also reflects on his former career in radio, collecting infinity gauntlets, and his frustrations with certain comic adaptations.

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here. Hello and welcome to the pull bag, only

on the Geekcast Radio Network. This is episode

469. No, folks, not in a row. I am, of course,

TF2 and Mike. Joining me is the radio god himself.

It is Carter Mann. Hello, sir. Carter Mann. Yes.

Hey, thanks for giving me the 69 number. I gave

you the option. I know you did. And I let you

pick. Oh, man. So this has been years in the

making, folks. Literally years in the making.

Carter Mann, former radio god in Louisville,

Kentucky. Ernest, I'm pretty sure there's a no

return policy once that is used. Well, hell,

that ain't too fair. Didn't even do what it was

promised to do. I first started listening to

you, I want to say 2015, 2016, somewhere around

there. I didn't read the directions. I think

I faced it the wrong way. That sounds... probably

maybe even late it might have been even earlier

than that i don't remember 16 is when i left

that's yeah that's true i'm getting old folks

i don't remember and we're here to talk about

carter man and his comic reading origins and

comic creating origins because Carter Man has

left Radio in the Dust and has become or continued

because you've been a comic creator your whole

life. You're just now getting on the path, right?

That's right. I'm just now trying to gain some

amount of notoriety for it. So, before we get

into all the creation stuff, did you grow up

reading comics and at what age do you first remember

reading comics? That's a good question for me

because the truth is For a very long time in

my life, I was more of an artist than a writer.

While I did collect comic books avidly, I almost

never read them. I only looked at the art. I

only tried to emulate the art. I'd just stare

at the crosshatching and try to recreate it,

but I couldn't tell you what any of the stories

were about. Now, that's not entirely true. I

have become a reader of comics and in the past

several years, I've put a whole lot behind me

in pages reading. There's a lot of really neat

stuff happening in comics right now. The not

indie industry, the Marvel and the DC and there's

a lot of drama. There's a lot of exciting stuff

going on in comics right now. Yeah, there is

a ton of exciting stuff and there's a lot of

just, what the hell do we do now? kind of stuff

too because some of these companies man it's

just crazy as there as a kid was there a parent

a friend or somebody in your life that just said

here kid read this batman comic go away you bother

me Yeah, in a way there was. My cousin Jamie,

actually, when I was probably in the vicinity

of eight years old, introduced me to comics by

leaving a huge stack at our house when he left.

It was X -Men. It was Power Pack, if you remember

Power Pack. I used to like that way more than

I care to admit. I had avengers iron man all

of that my first subscription was the iron man

i was probably thirteen fourteen years old didn't

read those either just look at the art i mean

the art is gorgeous. Yeah the artist gorgeous

i love all the different artists out there in

the different impressions are in the different

excuse me takes on famous characters so when

you were a kid besides iron man. Because that's

a whole other part of your story that we'll get

into. Ah, yes. Which characters were your favorites?

X -Men. You have X -Men all the way. Cool, cool.

I was a big Jim Lee fan, and you know, when he

did the four... Issue number one covers of X

-Men when they rebooted it in the 90s. Yep. I

was all over that man I was all over that and

those characters and the cartoon came out which

really just Complimented the Jim Lee era really

I loved the cartoon short of short of the character

morph he can go Morph is lame his voice is lame

his costumes lame He ruined the cartoon in a

lot of ways for me, but they got rid of him in,

you know, for most of it. So that was cool. Poor

Morph. He gets no love. No, poor Morph. Nothing.

He's a made up nonsense character crap. And I'll

say it to anyone's face. Interesting to note,

folks. October 31st, 2022 marks 30 years since

that show came out. Wow. Yep. Why are you spilling

my age like that? Oh, wait. I'm sorry, 60 years.

Right. You're much older. Feels like that. All

right. The age -old question. Gun to your head.

DC or Marvel? Marvel. That was easy. No questions.

I couldn't relate to the DC characters. They're

all gods. Not all of them. They're all gods.

There's nothing relatable about them. I liked

Marvel and their real people and their real problems.

It's just not even a competition for me. Yeah,

I guess not everyone can grow up as a billionaire

who loses his parents and has to become a bat

to, you know, I mean, technique. That's not to

say I don't like DC. I enjoy DC. Right. Yeah,

no, I know. Point was he's not a god. Some people

treat him like he's a god, but this is Kevin

Conway and I am the goddamn Batman. Yeah, he

is actually a god in terms of those comic books

and how he's written. He's a detective god. and

it's ridiculous in a lot of ways, but I do enjoy

the Batman movies. What other publishers do you

enjoy reading? Image Comics. I had a big, obviously

Jim Lee. I've mentioned him 20 times already.

All of them, Todd McFarland, Mark Silvestri.

I could list the entire founding fathers of Image

Comics. I've enjoyed a lot of their work. A little

bit of Dark Horse. Not a tremendous amount of

indie comics yet because when I got Interested

in indy comics was while i was doing this and

this this process leaves no time for reading

any comics right not even mine. Yeah yeah when

you're when you are creating comics it's very

hard to keep up with reading comics but you know

what i do i kinda cheat mike i watch youtube

videos. I like the comic story in and there's

a few others out there that'll kind of give you

the cliff notes of comic books and their stories

or even read them to you outright. A lot of times

I'll use that as a background podcast noise.

Oh, very cool. Very cool. Well, I guess question

six is irrelevant, but I guess maybe we can go

before you started your creative process, print

or digital, which one both either or and why

as to how you like to read your comics. Well,

I mean, Just like anybody, I like to hold a comic.

I like print comics. Digital comics are absolutely

the same for me. I don't have any kind of attachment

to print only. And to be honest, some things

happened just this past year where there was

a paper shortage in the comic industry. And I

found it surprising that a lot of professionals

were really highlighting that going digital is

not the answer. And I think that's because there's

a weird stigma of doing digital or web comics

in that you're not a real professional. They

like to keep that gate kept, that line between

print and digital, but I like them both. Frankly,

it seems like print comics don't accumulate in

value the way that they used to because they

make so many. I learned that the hard way back

in the 90s when I tried to sell my comic collection.

I'm not even going to tell you what I took for

that huge box of comics. But it was a deciding

factor at the time as to whether I would go into

comics because Marvel was declaring bankruptcy.

The image guys had jumped ship and left them

hanging. Everybody, all of comics was doing very

badly at that time. But today, in today's world,

obviously Hollywood is dominated with comic book

material and it seems that digital is really

just inevitable. It's just inevitably going to

start taking over because print for me right

now is near impossible because of price. If I

were to try to print my Amazon books using their

printing, it wouldn't even be a wash. I would

owe them. I would owe them for the printing.

I wouldn't make any money whatsoever. So I'm

considering a Kickstarter to get some print books

done. I'm not going to speak much on that because

I've really just started scratching the surface,

but. Right. You're just now researching it. Yeah.

I like them both. I like them both. Yeah. I mean,

for me nowadays, if I was going to have a comic

book collection, obviously I would want, like

the best example I can give you is what IDW Publishing

calls their IDW collections, where it's, you

know, hard covers. In story order for Transformers

Turtles, whatever, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,

whatever, you know. Right. Like if I was going

to be collecting the comic books, I would want

those collector edition type things that. Sure.

Sure. I could like, like you were saying earlier,

you flip through, you look at the art. Ooh, that's

pretty. Ooh, that's nice. You're not there to

read the story in that collected edition, limited

edition thing. Whereas on digital. I can read

a thousand series whenever I want and I don't

have to worry about creasing the page or like

you were mentioning, oh, comic value is going

down. Oh my God, you opened this Batman number

one from 1939. You just opened the cover. It

loses every bit of its value. That's funny. That

reminds me of a story about those Iron Man comic

books. Iron Man was the only one I actually had

a mail subscription to. And they would end up

in the mailbox bent in half. I'm like, Marvel

mailed this to me, it's bent in half. So there

was no chance when I got that particular collection.

Yeah, that makes absolutely no sense. You've

kind of already said it before in the show so

far, but Jim Lee and other creators, who are

some of your favorite comics writers and why?

Comics writers, that's a tough one. I like Brian

Hickman's X -Men. That's kind of more current.

I don't know if I can answer this question real

easily, Mike. As I tried to explain to you before,

I'm really more of the art guy. I can name writers,

but I'd be lying that I'd read their work. Who

are some of your favorite comics artists? Well...

Of course, King Kirby, like you said, as silly

as his artwork can look, if you really, really

lock down on it and study it, it's pretty amazing.

I've already mentioned Jim Lee, Todd McFarland,

even Rob Liefeld. His artwork is really hit or

miss with a lot of people, I think. Do you remember

the Captain America cover where the chest is

just absurd? It's like a huge chest. He's standing

to the side. I saw some people recently kind

of dishing on that, and I was thinking, you know

what? Everybody can recognize that. Everybody

knows who did it. That's what you want. So even

if it's not what you consider to be traditionally

anatomically or just perfect at all, it's People

know exactly who drew it and they recognize it

and that's what matters. Oh other other comic

artists. So yeah, Mark Silvestri Alex Ross Mobius

absolutely love Mobius. I I Catered a little

bit to him. I hear that's been delayed. Oh wait,

you you said Mobius not Morbius Yeah, not Morbius

Morbius isn't drawing him as far as I know Mobius

is Those are some of my faves. Cool, cool. From

the time that you were reading comics, where

was the point in your comic reading that you

said, hey, I want to do this? I like from the

time of you flipping through those old Iron Man

issues to the point, like was there a specific

moment where it was like light bulb on Carter

man going to going to work? Yeah. Yeah, there

is. Um, when I was in high school and just leaving

high school and entering the workforce and trying

to figure out what to do with myself, I already

told you, I was scared of the industry and so

I didn't go for it. It didn't seem like a valid

choice. However, I never stopped drawing comics.

I never stopped creating worlds. I never stopped

developing characters. Probably around the age

of 27, I want to say 29, actually 29, I sent

off my first submission to Image Comics because

those were my guys and that's who I wanted to

be with. It was rejected. That doesn't hurt my

feelings, by the way. When looking back at the

project, I've got it right here in front of me.

It's ridiculous. I, you could tell that I was

only about the art and the writing had not come

into play yet or even, even into the atmosphere

of my thinking. But I did get a film degree around

the age of 26 and screenwriting became very exciting

for me and story became apparent to me. And I've

spent ever since then. reading whatever I can

and just loving story and trying to create the

best ones I can come up with. But this past year,

March 12th, 2020, I was furloughed from my job

as an optician, thank God, and I started making

the comics on traditional paper. The first issue

was actually done on traditional art on card

stock. That was... Tricky. That was tough. There's

a lot of focus there not to mess up those big

sheets of paper. So, I made the switch to digital,

where I could move faster, I could create better,

and I could fix mistakes a lot easier as I went.

Just really going for it. I wouldn't want to

count my 29 -year -old submission to Image Comics.

I'll say probably at the age of 45 is when I

started really going for it. And I've been going

for it ever since. Absolutely. And you've created

this series, which we've covered on the show

with my buddy, Mikey from Ireland, Immortal Orphans.

Yeah. Oh boy. That's the one. Yep. That's the

one. Four issues so far. And dang, this is definitely

a Carter Man series, folks. Are you enjoying

it? Oh yeah. Absolutely. Nothing sexist about

this book at all. Well, what in the world would

they even say? You know, you're bringing up something

that happened last night. I ran across a review

on the comic where someone called me sexist and

I'm like, in what way? I couldn't figure it out.

And you know what? I think I've come up with

what it is. I think it's my perfectly round orb

boobs that I draw. I think it is, but what these

people don't understand is that I'm a very meta

kind of creator. Those orbular boobs are done

absolutely on purpose. What, you think I can't

draw regular boobs? Of course I can. I'm drawing

these big giant orb ones sort of as a tease to

traditional artists of the past and how they

viewed the female form and ignored the male.

Not only am I making orbular boobs, I'm making

gigantic bulging crotches on the men. This is

just part of my silly style, but it's certainly

not sexist. All the men, all the men are wearing

like tight pants, real tight, skin tight stuff

with big giant bulging dongs. And it's just for

fun. It's just to help create my style and you

know, kind of tease back at some past creators.

Yeah, I mean, you know, I can see if someone

takes that away from viewing your art. But in

the writing itself, you are, I don't want to

say, you have been in the past when I've known

you, and probably all your life, the antithesis

of PC, of politically correct at all. At the

same time. That's not true. Okay. To some degree

that was true during my radio career, but Mike,

I was doing a character back then. You remember

how I used to hang up on you and stuff? That

wasn't real. Oh, yeah. Sure felt real, man. Well,

I know it was supposed to that the audience needed

to feel it. Right. Yeah. But it's one of those

things where as I'm reading this, I'm hearing

your voice in my head through these characters.

And I'm like, Yep. Well, there's definitely some

snarkiness and some sarcasm. I'm just waiting.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's how you are. That's how

you have been. Right. Playful banter. Yeah. And

that's how I've known you. So that's what I'm

going to hear in my head. But you don't see any

of your characters, whether it's, you know, science

boy or murder cat, which at this point you should

probably murder the cat. Everybody loves that

character. I know. But the thing is, any of these

characters, none of them say any specific sexist

remarks to each other or in general. That's not

my style. No, it's not your style and it's not

about any of that. No, I think it's the orbular

boobs. And I will say this as sort of like, I'll

give you an exclusive sneak piece of info here.

She is, that character, Liberty Durand, is the

one that I draw with the perfectly orbular boobs.

She's a cyborg. Maybe they're not boobs. Oh boy.

Maybe they're explosive devices that she can

detach and throw. I don't think an explosive

device would be shaped like a human breast. No.

So you just got to know the series a little bit

more and not make judgment calls based on the

art because the art is very meta and really tongue

-in -cheek. And in a lot of ways, it's almost

like a super passive insult to artists of the

past. Yeah. And I can't imagine the mighty Quinn

running around with a giant explosive bomb in

his hand. Where am I going to put this bomb?

I can't put it in the water. I can't put it over

here. Let me run a thousand miles. What are you

suggesting? That he's grabbing her boobs off

her chest? No, I'm suggesting that he can't be.

He's better than. Some days you just can't get

rid of a bomb. Adam West Batman, because at least

the mighty Quinn would know what to do with a

bomb. It's not the mighty Quinn. That's a different

character that actually exists. It's Quinn the

Lucky. Oh, OK. There you go. Quinn the Lucky.

He has extraordinary luck that's really a little

more than luck in the way that the universe will

do whatever is necessary to help him achieve

a fortunate result, whether it's going to die,

whether it's going to lose money, whatever it

is, he's going to win. He's very sick of that

and ready to go. S in your process of creating

this what do you do first you do the art first

and then write in the dialogue later how do you

prepare for the stories that you're going how

are you preparing for this. I believe you said

online it's going to be a 12 -issue arc or something

like that. It may be more than that. It may be

up to 15. I might do each act in a five -issue,

a three -act structure with each act being five

issues for this origin story. How do I start?

I write it out. I write the stories first. I

go through that a bunch. I've got a lot done

written ahead. Right now, all I have to do is

draw. you know, put the put the story in motion

with sequential art. And I mean, that's really

it. I mean, I pencil it, then I ink it, then

I flat it, then I color it, and then I letter

it. And then I publish it. And you wait six months

for Amazon to make a decision or for one person

to buy it either one. Oh, man, it is it's got

to be extremely hard. doing this on your own.

It is. I mean, if I were to publish the first

five books as an act one, as a trade paperback

all in one, and that had some success, I'd be

very interested in looking to starting a Kickstarter

with another artist, someone who can help out

because it's just all day, every day. Yeah. You're

living, breathing. Drinking eating comics your

whole like that's it I'm got I've got bad neck

and back problems as a result of hunching over

my tablet day in and day out Yeah, I'm feeling

the time and effort. Yeah, that's that's that's

never a It is a good thing because it's hard

work and you're putting into something that you

know, whatever but the fact of the result of

that hard work is backache and neck ache. That's

not good. That's not the result. The result is

a sweet graphic novel series and I'm happy to

sacrifice my body to it. Here's hoping your body

can keep up with it. But I don't want anyone

to buy this book or even look at it because I

worked hard or because they know me from a previous

profession. I want them to read the book and

they'll be hooked. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean,

just because we know each other, we've known

each other, whatever, over the years. Like when

you mentioned this to me and when you first started

promoting it, I was like, oh, interesting. And

I went in knowing. What is this guy doing? Yeah.

I was like, oh, interesting. And I went in kind

of knowing nothing. And like I mentioned before,

once I started reading the series and the various

characters and whatever, that's when I started,

oh, yeah, this is, this is so Carter. This is

so his, his style, his, I'm just waiting for

several different sports ball references at some

point or another. They'll come. I'm sure they'll

come. I already had some, actually. There was

a sports ball reference in the very first issue.

Yeah. In the very first issue, yeah. That's why

I was like, yeah, I was like, oh yeah, this is...

And then as people have heard in our past episodes

with me and Mikey talking about the series and

wondering about various things and doing various

things with it and talking about it, it's just

a fun, interesting new thing that is not... I

don't want to say superhero light or superhero

like. It is your own style, your own story. It

is very sci -fi, but it's your sci -fi. You're

not trying - I'm not emulating anyone. Yeah,

yeah. You're not emulating anyone. You're not

- It's all new stuff. You've never heard of a

hernia man as a major character. and a comic

book. What I want to do is make you not only

see it, hear it, and accept it, I want to make

you love the character, which is even harder

because it's such a silly one to begin with.

That's the idea. Each one of these characters

is me. Each one of them is a part of me at a

different stage in my life as a human on earth.

I can tag them with my traits and features, but

you've not seen a lot of what I've got going

on here. But to be clear, it is a speculative

science fiction story about a future where Ganyan

has no – in the future he comes from, he has

no future. He has no hope. He has no reason to

think anything other than that maybe he'll see

the end of the world. So the idea is – it's a

metaphor in a way of sort of like millennials

won't go to work, right? That's the big funny

joke all over Social media all they call and

they're never there and I believe that that is

because they don't believe they have a fruitful

future in America They've been screwed again

and again wages going down tuition going up And

that's the idea is that Ganyan here lives in

a future where there's no future whatsoever So

he's a piece of shit. He's stealing from people.

He's you know breaking the law He's always getting

in trouble with the cops. He doesn't care but

when he finds his way back in time to an earth

that is still ripe with possibility in future,

he takes up that hero torch without hesitation.

That's some of the back end of symbolism and

metaphor in the book. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

And it's just a fun old time. And I've had fun

doing it, doing the reviews, and even just reading

it on my own. What's going on? Oh, yeah. It's

important to me that it be high octane action

all the way. Oh, I mean, yes, but you can't...

What I've found as a reader of comics is that

there needs to be a consistent balance. And I

would say that you do that. You don't put...

Too much dialogue in one issue, but only like

a half scene of action. Sure. Or too much action

in another issue and only like three lines. You

don't, you don't do that. You, you know, your

style, you know how you are and you know what

the story is that you want to tell. So for your

comic and from what I'm seeing from immortal

orphans is that it is a fully balanced book.

between dialogue and action. I appreciate that.

Let's see here what else do we have to ask you.

So in your comic adventures over the years, what

was the most money you spent on a comic book

or a comic item? Comic item could be like Green

Lantern's ring or eye. Oh, wait, here's the story.

Yeah, I've got I've got both of the infinity

gauntlets. Oh, do you? I have both infinity gauntlets.

The Hulk one and the gauntlet. What's his name

now? Purple. Primus. Thanos. I've got Thanos

and the Hulk one. Those were probably about,

God, were they a hundred a piece? That's like

200 bucks for that. That's crazy. Ladies and

gentlemen, for a while in his former career,

he actually got to become Carter the Iron Man.

I sure did. A very brief window, by the way.

By the time I achieved the goal, I set a GoFundMe

account so that I could get a movie quality Iron

Man suit to go visit sick kids at the hospital.

I really always wanted to do that. The GoFundMe

was a success in less than a month. Then I got

the suit and we put it on. I went out to one

place and they fired me. That's how that went.

I ended up having to sell the suit. Stay afloat.

That sucks. It does suck. I also had to sell

the bed I had just gotten through the radio station.

Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah. They screwed me. They screwed

me so hard. But not really. They gave me a big

fat settlement that I don't really talk about

a lot. That helped me out in some areas. But

I was essentially really bummed out and hurt

by the loss of that job because as much as I

prefer comic books, I loved radio. I think that

was evident in my delivery. Oh, yeah. But I don't

want to go back. Oh, no, no, no. I mean, and

going back now would be weird, especially now

it's just so, I don't know, it is what it is.

You know, it's one of those things where you

could clearly tell that you love doing that job.

You would not have taken all of those calls and

maybe spent five or 10 minutes extra, if you

could, with that person that was like, you know,

you know how you know you were there. You take

a call from somebody, you have the on -air bit,

and there may be, if possible, an extra five

minutes off -air that you're talking to that

person because you want to connect with your

audience kind of thing. That's right. And that

hasn't changed. And that hasn't changed. I want

to connect with the comic audience, and if the

radio audience wants to follow me into this adventure,

and a lot of them have, then that's great. Yeah,

yeah, absolutely. And I think with Immortal Orphans,

you are obviously telling your own unique story,

but you're also still bringing us your own unique

brand of style and humor and just your personality.

It's just in a different... It is my voice. It's

very much my voice. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just

in a different format. You just have to read

it and just hear his voice in your head, folks.

They're not going to hear my voice. They don't

know me like you do. They don't need to just

read it i swear i you know the give me a break

on the very first issue i was just getting my

feet wet right the arts little clunky it was

on standard paper but if you get through the

first second and second issues i feel like anyone's

gonna be hooked into wanting to know a little

bit more by issue i would say halfway through

issue two and then obviously starting with all

of issue three you have really like it. Jumps

leaps and bounds on the storytelling and the

art and and just all of it the art Yeah, it just

really really has it's gonna keep doing that

too until I reach my peak, you know So that's

I don't even know where that's gonna be. I think

you're really gonna like issue five. Let's yeah,

absolutely When's that coming out? Well, I've

had to put the brakes on it for about a week

I haven't gotten anything done in a week on the

actual comic itself, but it's only a few pages

away from being completely done. So it's not

going to be that long once I just, you know,

put the nose to the grindstone again. Very cool.

Very cool. Do you prefer heroes, heroines, anti

-heroes or heroines or villains? What archetypes

are your go -to reads and also to write for?

I like anti -heroes. They're always fun. I'm

not a big fan of the paragon, you know, the supermans.

Although I will say that my hernia man character

is a paragon. That's how I've... That's how I

developed this character, and more of that will

become evident as he develops. Some fun stuff's

coming. I enjoy a villain turned good with a

retribution arc. I love that. I also love a fallen

hero. Those are fun. Villains are always good.

As long as you've got one, I think you can't

have them be a two -dimensional character evil

anymore. Oh, he's evil. No, they've got to have...

so much more meat and story almost to where you

can almost see their point and You start wondering

who's right and who's wrong here I think they

did a good job of that with Thanos in an endgame

and infinity wars Those those types of stories

are always good to me I like a good anti -hero

who has to who has to go into a hero's journey

reluctantly maybe kicking and screaming and Then

once they're there Their true colors are able

to come out And you see them for something more

than even they saw themselves as. Like our main

hero, Ganyan here, because, yeah, he's pretty

much... That's Ganyan, yes. He got, you know,

kicked by a robot. Do you have a my parents got

rid of my comics story? No, I don't. I got rid

of my own comics like an idiot. I told you I

sold this huge box I had. Yeah. I'll tell you.

I'll go ahead and tell you because it's fun.

What the hell? 20 years ago. What the fuck am

I trying to hide? I took my huge box. Everything

was meant in the polyurethane acid back. And

I was like, oh, this is going to give me some

great money starting out in the world. And I

took it in there. The guy gave me 15 bucks. I

had six complete collections of Jim Lee's number

one issue. I had six times four. I had 24 books

that were just that particular one. And I know

that that particular one would have brought me

some money. Back then, they made a jillion copies

of it and there was never going to be thought

then anyways, any value to it. So no, my parents

never threw any away. I don't think they were

ever in the business of throwing away my stuff.

So besides anything in your own comics, besides

anything in Immortal Orphans, what is one item

from a comic book that you'd love to have scaled

up for real world use? Oh. Boy, I tell you, I

love the idea of the adamantium skeleton. I do

love that. The Infinity Gauntlet's just kind

of silly when you think of it. There's no real

world practical anything for that. But I do like

the design. Real world use, what else would I

want from comic books? I would like to have an

optic blast. I would love that. And I would love

the creator of Morph to be standing right in

front of me. When I unleash my optic blast And

all of those who allowed the creation to continue

my god, I would also shoot them he really hates

more folks Promises to keep I hate it. I hate

it Real hate okay so you are already creating

your own universe your own thing with immortal

orphans however yeah if any comic book company

no matter who was whether it was dc or marvel

whether it was image whether it was whatever

if they could hand you the keys to their kingdom

and they tell you you can do whatever you want

with whatever character as long as. Uncle Ben

still dies and no killing. What would you do

with it and what would you want to create with

it? Did you say no killing? Yeah, no killing.

Why? Because Batman has a goal. Yeah, but Batman

doesn't. This is not Batman. Okay. I would go

to any one of those publishers with my work.

and these characters and make them work there.

I would love to have any one of them backing

it. By God, I'd be able to get some fucking printed

copies finally. You know, some actual paper hard

copies. That's about the only way I can see right

now outside of the Kickstarter possibility. But

if I had to pick first, I think I would still

choose image first to go to just because of my

connection. With my youth and those those again

founding fathers of that company. Yeah, I mean

it's although You know what? Here's the I hate

to say this too But I've been I've been watching

them a lot real closely a lot of them are like

real Boy Scout nerds real choir boys Boy Scouts

in real life. That's who they are and I'm like

Come on That's why then that's that's why they're

not buying my work. That's why they're not that's

why they're not letting me in. Yeah But they're

all great. I hope I professed my love for all

of them before I said they were all nerdy Boy

Scouts Lord, okay Yeah, I'm doing some research

as we're talking about this with morph and His

real name is heaven. Stop it. Stop acknowledging

that character no you said you wanted to know

who was created by that thing all the way down

to his all the way down to his stupid haircut

I mean I hate everything about him. They put

him in that generic X -Men suit and I've never

been more furious in my life that some nothing,

nothing got to wear the blue and gold costume.

It still bugs me. I haven't watched the show

in 20 some years. It's like, what is that? What

was the one they did on X -Men? Was it X -Men?

Which one had the Spike character or whatever?

That pissed me off too. I was like, who's that?

Don't make up a character for a cartoon. If you're

making a cartoon about a known comic entity like

the X -Men, what the hell do you need an extra

character for? They've already got a million.

They could have used Mero. Mero had that same...

Power basically i'm getting off topic oh he okay

so i don't like made up cartoon characters for

a comic series that exists already so let me

ask you this then how do you feel about made

up cartoon characters that debut in the cartoons

but then get transferred over into the comics

because he got pulled into the comics like i

have never actively looked in like the most emotional

i felt. ever about Morph was as a 12 year old

seeing him and Beast and I was more emotional

about Beast than I was Morph. Yeah. You know,

seeing him potentially die. Oh, right. Didn't

I tell you? Clear sailing all the way. Hey, Ten

Wordsman, I'm sending you back to Oz in pieces.

That was the best day of my life. I thought my

prayers had been answered. But you know, I think

that's how Harley Quinn came about, right? She

was a cartoon character first and she made her

way in. It can happen. It can work, but you have

to have a good character, not some generic stupid

voice. dork with no original costume and the

most generic power imaginable that a hundred

other X -Men already have. Yeah, he essentially

is the male version of Mystique. Yeah, I... Except

he... No, he's the male version of Piece of Crap.

He's the male version. Don't even compare him

to Mystique. I don't even want him in the same

sentence with any real existing characters. If

they brought him into the comic books, I'd probably

hang myself tomorrow. They have. That's what

I'm telling you. Are you kidding? Oh yeah. I

gotta go buy some rope. Not before your 12 -issue

epic finishes off. No, that's, again. I don't

know. That's why I was saying, you know, that

I was looking him up. Yeah. Original fictional

name is Kevin Sidney, appearing in American comic

books published by Marvel Comics. Roy Thomas,

an artist, Werner Roth created him. Character

first appeared in the X -Men number 35, August

1967. Holy crap. Oh, so he was around first.

Yeah, he was around first, but. Oh, that changes

my ideas. OK, so no, no, no. So here's the thing.

He has two different identities. He has the Changeling,

which was August of 67 and then as Morph in the

cartoon. And then after that, the first comic

appearance was X -Men Adventures number one from

November of 92. I'm just curious to see what.

Wow. Convict spinoff of the animated series beginning

in November 92. It adapted the first three seasons

of, oh, so it was essentially just a comic version

of the cartoon. Yeah. I would rather just watch

the cartoon. That's a shame to see that character

put on print. That really, that hurts. And to

know that the idea of him is so old and that

they didn't even take the original idea. They

just made a new thing. You see what I'm saying?

Don't do that. Don't do that. All right. Where

can the people find your comic series Immortal

Orphans, sir? All right. You can hit me up on

Patreon, patreon .com. Just search for Immortal

Orphans or Carter Mann with two Ns. It'll take

you right to it. Amazon and Kindle. You can find

it there as well. I think I reduced the prices

last night. So that's a treat for anyone hearing

this now. I lowered the prices when I read that

crappy review. So, wait, wait, wait. You saw

a crappy review of your awesome comic and you

decided to take money away from yourself? Not

for that reason. I just watched the... No, no,

no. I... No, no, no. I'd been watching YouTube

and how to really sort of... I'm watching all

sorts of videos on how to sneak the system and

the prices that work the best and all of that.

I was just making a joke. I didn't do it because

of that. If I'd done it because of that, I would

have raised it $10. $10 an issue. Yeah. You know

that's true. Oh, yeah. You know it's true. I

would have done it out of spite, but I don't.

What is the one piece of advice you would give

the comics fandom in general? Well, I mean, stop

supporting Morph. When they come back, if that

show comes back and it's going to on Disney +,

and Morph makes even a blink of an appearance,

don't watch the show. Boycott the show. If Morph's

stupid face shows up again in my lifetime, it's

boycotted. That's my advice. Don't allow crappy

creators to make crappy creations and then support

them for it. That's terrible. Come on. You hear

the seriousness in my voice Yeah, but I'm not

joking I'm joking and I'm not joking Poor morph

he gets no love Alright folks that's gonna do

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