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Transformers Volume 2: The Change in Your Nature Review

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and Steve dive into IDW's 2019 Transformers Volume 2, which collects multiple story arcs including the titular "The Change in Your Nature." They discuss Brian Ruckley's writing, the expanding cast of characters both classic and new, the artwork across multiple artists, and how the story explores Megatron's origins and motivations before the Decepticon war. The hosts wrestle with pacing and character saturation as the narrative becomes increasingly complex, while praising individual character moments and the willingness to show pre-war Cybertronian dynamics.

Hi, this is John Barber from RDW Publishing.

You are listening to the Geekcast Radio Network.

Hello and welcome to the pull bag as well as

all things Transformers. I am, of course, TFJ

and Mike. Joining me as always, Steve Megatron.

Hello, sir. Hello. And it is once again time

for an Autobotly month. We either have Autobotly

April or Autobotly August and... I figured what

the hell why not do an Autobotly April and we

are here to talk about Transformers the 2019

the new universe from IDW volume 2 the change

in your nature now IDW has changed their the

way they collect things apparently instead of

doing like having galaxies be all one trade All

12 issues in one trade or something like that.

They are putting everything in the, in the regular

volume trades. And I guess it's in story order.

I assume it is. And volume two, along with volume

one, I think, I don't remember. We did volume

one a while ago. Volume two includes construct

icons rising wannabe the change in your nature

and RC and green light run. So. I find this interesting

because we've already covered Constructor Guns

Rising and Wannabe in single issue format. This

is why I usually like picking one or the other.

So for us here in the trade, we have to go all

the way up to page 135 of the trade. Before I

do that though... The Change in Your Nature,

written by Brian Ruckley. Art by Angel Hernandez,

Alex Milne, Anna Malkova, and Beth McGuire Smith.

Colors by Joanna Lafuente, Josh Perez, and John

Paul Beauvais. John Paul, I hope I'm saying your

name correctly. If I'm not, I'm sorry. We butcher

names all over the place around here. So how

are you, sir? Are you ready for Autobotly April?

I think so. I hope so. Because yikes. Funny thing

about this, because we did the first trade so

long ago now. It was episode 386. Yes, 386 of

the pull bag. I actually had to go back to the

end of the last volume to remember what I'm like

Bumblebee with the Decepticon logo. What the

hell's going on? Like, when I got to issue 13

here, I'm like, what the hell? I actually literally

had to go back in Comixology to look at that,

and I'm like, oh, that's right. They're using

him as a spy. Interesting. But this is the change

in your nature. And man, this thing is packed

full. of stuff. Oh, there's a lot of bots. Oh,

there's a lot of bots. There's a lot of cons.

There's a lot of this. There's a lot of that.

No humans, thankfully. At least not yet. Who

knows? Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to send

your lists in for the top 100 Transformers characters

for us here at the GeekCast Radio Network. No

humans. Or else, you know, somebody will kill

me, apparently. Ask a question about humans and

Transformers. Oh my god, it's the end of the

world. Sorry, I forgot. Anyway. But yes, there

is a lot to unpack here and I love it. I think

it's great. I'm really enjoying Brian's writing

now that I remember what's going on within the

story. I enjoy his writing. I love how all the

characters interact with each other. And not

only do we get Bumblebee kicking people and all

kinds of stuff, we get characters that I didn't

even know we were gonna get, like Springer. Hmm,

interesting. Having him here. Hey, at least he's

not, you know, trying to wreck homes and things

like that. I did not, and maybe it's me, maybe

it's because I'm not that familiar with a lot

of versions of Sentinel Prime outside of the

movies and animated. I did not know he was those

colors. Oh yeah, they've had him in the video

games too. Okay, well, I don't do video games

anymore sadly. Well, he was the old boy for Cybertron

stuff. Right, right. But yeah, no, I'm digging

this. I think it's fun. I think it's really cool

them teaming up Springer and Sideswipe. I love

that panel when they first, you know, when we

have the narration of, we've got patrols out

over a quarter of the planet looking for any

sign of risers who have gone to ground. And I

love this exchange between Sideswipe and Springer.

We're close. I'll clear the approach, Sideswipe.

What? No, wait, you triple -changing cheat of

a fly -by Rustbot. You saved some for me. I love

it. I can hear Michael Bell and Neil Ross in

my head right now. And it is so awesome. What

are you thinking of issue 13 as we start off

the change in your nature? Uh, it's, it's interesting.

I, I'm... Being that I'm not familiar with like

galaxies and some of the stuff prior it a few

things are like left questioning and I noticed

like again, they're doing the ascent to cons

which Seems to be the precursor to the decepticons.

Oh it is Ascent to cons the rise all of that

it's all Megatron's doing Only it looks like

he's trying to go a more noble route and Shock

wave and sound wave are just kind of yeah, whatever

Yeah, especially shock wave shock waves. Oh shock

wave is always there Whatever is whatever is

whatever is logically gonna get the job done

Yeah, he gets his which I'm thankful That was

a little disturbing yeah till disturbing No,

but I really enjoy it. I love the backgrounds.

I love that you have both bots in bot mode and

vehicle mode. I love the whole battle ambush

we get here in the first part of the changing

your nature. And I just think it's really fun.

You know, you know, you have essentially what

is a season one bot being teamed up with a season

three bot. I mean, technically Springer to debut

in the movie, but I just, again, I wasn't sure

what Autobots were going to be. And that's the

other thing I want to talk about is that apparently

everybody is Autobots, but nobody's wearing an

Autobot symbol. Well, they're just Cybertronians

basically. Yeah. At this point. Yeah. Um, then

of course, you know, Obviously, Elita and Bumblebee

are wearing Decepticon Ascenticon Sync symbols.

I love that Soundwave catches them. Man, the

drawing and the colors and the lines on, look

at, like, it's literally the tape deck. Like,

there's the panel where he catches them. What

are you doing? Obviously, I can't do a sound

wave voice and no vocoder needed but you look

at the lines like under his arms and by his torso

and by his midsection where the Play and pause

and all the buttons like wow Really nice detailing

absolutely love that Yeah, it's I think it's

funny how sound wave is you know very ominous

in this this episode or this some comic Just

overall like and bumblebee I was when we first

opened this issue I was trying to figure out

what bumblebee's angle was I'm like, okay Why

is he wearing a decepticon logo? Mm -hmm And

again, like I said I had to go back to the previous

trade To actually issue 11 of that trade because

issue 12 was the notica adventure But issue 11

I had to go back to look and see I'm like, oh

right. He's optimus's little spy bot Kind of

thing. I Love the team ups in this. I think this

is great. You've got Alito with bumblebee You've

got Springer and side swipe and you've got chromia

and ratchet. I think that is so cool Seems to

work seems to As we go through the next issue

in the change in your nature part two Oh Springer

and chromia. Yeah, that's okay. They can have

each other But we open with you know more more

of the battle and hey look an old man cup Wow

All he needs is a cigar in his mouth and he'll

look really cool Well, it kind of reminds me

of the generation to comics from back in the

day like these these aesthetics that they're

giving in that particular panel Yeah Absolutely

and You know, we get Nautica, we get Prowl, we

get all of these really, really awesome character

moments. And that's what I love about the IDW's

Transformers comics is we get a lot of really

cool character moments. Brian on the writing

I'm enjoying it so far there really isn't anything

so far that I'm like That character wouldn't

say that or wouldn't do this or wouldn't whatever.

Here's the thing. They're creating there a whole

new universe. Yes, they're still using established

characters, but they still have to give those

characters personality within The only thing

I have a grape with and I think it's because

I like More concise storytelling. Mm -hmm is

that there's so many characters to follow right?

I don't know who I should be really Like there's

certain there's certain plot lines like you got

your a line your B line your C line I don't know

Per se what the most important part of the plot

line is I mean other than yeah, it's it's Megatron's

regime, but When you kind of break it down You

have all these different players going on and

yes, I get it. It's it's for an overarching,

you know reveal later, but I'm I'm kind of at

that that weird stage where I'm I'm kind of I

Don't I don't know if I need as many characters

as are showing up. Mm -hmm to get the point across

I think because like and I think this is where

I prefer like the storyline of Beast Wars betters.

It's concise. You have X amount of characters

and that's it. Right. And I understand that.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like for me, I know who

about 50 percent of these characters are. And

then the rest of them mean absolutely nothing

to me. I don't even recognize them by looking

at them. Yeah, some of them I don't recognize

and you know, I can hear their names and see

their names and things like that But again, it's

them either throwing new characters in or characters

that they want to build up but we still have

our sound wave Chromia bumblebee you got acid

storm you got Elita one you got you know Well,

yeah, obviously you got Megatron in here pretty

soon in these pages of this specific issue of

this trade Starscream shows up and I love that

they're using a Cybertron the the Cybertronian

jet from War for Cybertron and All of that I

think well in the plus side about Starscream

is is he's like Has anybody thought to ask why

bumblebees here? Mm -hmm He's like, why do you

think I fired Soundwave? Exactly. He's like,

he's an idiot. Starscream's like, I know treachery.

That's my that's kind of my thing. And I think

it's interesting seeing the book. I mean, this

is not exactly I mean, it is before the war.

And obviously we will get to rise of the Decepticons

and things like that in the next trade and whatever.

But. I like seeing the transformers work together.

Cause it's not so, I mean we've seen it before,

but briefly. This is something I've said for

years now. For me, the only place you can, unless

you're making a million bucks per episode, the

only way in place you can flesh out character

and have them grow or have them even not grow.

is comic books. Like, yes. Did the Decepticons

and Autobots work together in the G1 cartoon

at times? Sure. There were plenty of times where

they had to work together. There were plenty

of times where, even though Megatron was going

to double -cross him at the end, he had to give

Optimus a handshake and say, okay, we'll work

together for now until it doesn't please me anymore,

doesn't appease me, or doesn't benefit me in

any single way. Whereas here... They're not quite

their Autobots, but they're we know them as Autobots,

but they're not quite Autobots yet Like you said,

they're Cybertronians and there is the ascent

to cons There are the Decepticons or there will

be the Decepticons kind of thing and I really

dig how they're doing this and how It's being

told I think it's really fun now Knew I mean

I've known about this guy for a while, but he's

been on several of our episodes here inside the

pull bag Mikey from moon base to He had said

something to me about how in single issues He

felt that the Brian Ruckley stuff didn't read

correctly or didn't read It didn't feel like

for him that it was Something that could continue

and I I don't know because I'm not reading it

in single -issue I'm reading it in trade and

you get the end of this part of the you know,

the this issue before we get into issue 15 It's

you know, the last panel of issue 14 is Why in

a race against catastrophe? We are in a race

against catastrophe now one misstep and we fall

and that's Megatron's line and that's how you

end issue 14 now for me if I was collecting this

or if I was getting this single issue from, like,

a comic book shop or something, I'd be like,

okay, I'll be here next month for my next Transformers

fix, because what a way to end that. I love the

cover for issue 15. Megatron with the Decepticon

symbol and Flame War and Nautica and Soundwave

and Shockwave. Love that. That is so cool. So

we start this one off with the... Autobots. Yep.

And I love how Sentinel is like, it's deception.

All of it. Well then. That's wrong. I mean he's

not wrong and like not getting into like real

-world politics But some of the stuff he's hitting

on here kind of sounds like the BS that we're

handed all the time Right, they promise unlimited

this unlimited this you know false problems false

solutions Yes, and you know we you know it's

kind of like the Megatron scanning the the news

and and I think it's hilarious how he's like

plugged in getting ready for his battle with

Shockwave and then J axis is behind him. Yeah

the fact that G axis is behind him creeps me

out because J axis is not somebody anyone should

trust Well, also he originated from the g2 comics,

right? And he was a part of the second wave of

Cybertronians that were more advanced than the

originals. Right. And this whole scene, so we

see Megatron in the chair and, you know, Jax

is like, he says, such intense energon flows

will not be entirely pleasant to Megatron. Click.

I think it's funny his eye changes from red to

purple. I think that's awesome. Yeah, I think

it's intentional, but well, I think the thing

of it is is is that they've colored the the energon

in the in the vials purple. So it's energon flowing

into his brain, into his this, into his that.

And I love these the these these monologue panels.

You know, where Megatron goes into his internal

monologue and we get kind of a backstory of things

that happened in the past. I mean, it's just

fun. I love seeing this backstory. I love finding

out about this. I love the fact that we now are

in a world where Megatron has varying origins.

and each origin is different and not every origin

is the same thing you know this isn't the Megatron

from G1 Megatron from the cartoon he was kind

of black and white there really wasn't much to

him and I get it because hello for almost four

oh god we're We're hitting close to 40 years.

We are three years away from 40 years of Transformers,

folks. But here's the thing, 40 years ago, there

wasn't anyone like, OK, yes, all the creators

did an amazing job. Bob Budiansky, Flint Dilley,

Ron Friedman, everybody did the best that they

could with what they were given from Hasbro.

But now we live in an age where you can create

this this minor slash gladiator storyline, and

I love that. I love that Megatron wasn't always

the big bad evil that he becomes. There was a

clear choice made. Hey, look, Autobot symbols.

Yay, finally. So the next few panels is where

we find out that Bumblebee is a spy for Optimus

Prime. Or Orion Pax, I should say. I'm gonna

get that screwed up all the time, folks. We have

for years here inside the pull bag. Sometimes

he's Orion, sometimes he's Optimus. It's all

Peter Cullen's voice in my head. How are you

feeling about the art in this specific part of

the trade, this specific issue? How do you like

or dislike how Optimus looks, how Megatron looks,

all that stuff? I don't have a problem with it.

A lot of this style reminds me of the G2 comics.

Very rough in some areas, but very polished,

shiny, angular. It very much reminds me of the

G2 comics in many ways. But I like the look that

Prime has here. or Orion it's the same stinking

body and and Megatron with all of his flashbacks

and Yeah, whatnot. I do like the the the massive

You know the the headbutting of powers with shockwave

and Megatron and Megatron just laying the smackdown

after he calls the You know his two heavy hitters

Six shot and Who's the other one? Good Lord slipstream

slips and yeah, and he calls him in and he's

like you two stand there Don't move. He's like

you two stand there and do not move And he just

grabs a fusion cannon and just whops him Yeah,

that's it aside and he gets shot through the

stomach and he's just like, okay, and then he

just snaps it right off Just tears him up for

mismatch limb and then he sees the other two

come after him and he says do not move and then

just Continues the beat down Yeah, uh as much

as I love shockwave Shockwave's a creepy creepy

character, but always has been but he got right

with He got really bad with various iterations

of transformers. You should see what he did in

the last IDW universe I mean that the whole universe

is basically shockwaves fault. But anyway, well,

but he also was the fault of the The Dreamwave

stuff too. Mm -hmm. He was they were leading

up to Unicron coming and it was his fault I Love

I love the end of this battle. Megatron's like,

does anyone else require an explanation of the

hierarchy? Works for me. I think it's all clear

enough. Very good. Crisis averted. And he's just

wiping essentially what is blood, but his energon

off his face. I'm like, God, if his eyes were

still purple, that was going to be my new profile

picture. I love it. I think it's awesome. We

go back to the Autobots in Sentinel Prime, and

Sentinel doesn't want to hear nothing from Orion.

Nope. Has no interest, just wants to do what

he's gonna do. And I can't even say anything

about this Sentinel because this Sentinel is

not the annoying Sentinel that I know and quote

unquote love from animated. This Sentinel is,

like you said, G2 dark. It is sadistic that kind

of thing and and Yeah, I love the variant cover.

Oh, of course. I love the variant cover for issue

15 Because it's by our guy. It's by Josh Burcham

the shockwave cover with the Decepticon logo

in his eye. Oh Love that I can't decide what

Optimus and Megatron are doing on the cover of

issue 16 I have no idea, like it looks like they're

in front of a Vegas slot machine at the top and

at the bottom it's stained glass, but I have

no idea what they are doing. Like they're either

talking to each other or they're trying to play,

you know, handsies. I don't get it, but whatever.

Issue 16 starts off with the Autobots and Starscream

of all people. And I love Starscream's line here.

He says, What's ridiculous is a psychonaut in

the grip of an infatuation. You'd think he'd

be professionally immune. I wouldn't worry about

it though. Proxima and Crosscut were similarly

gripped in the past. They both bounced off her

just as everyone does and then so I forget who

it is. Somebody calls him absurd. He goes you're

absurd Certainly, but aren't we all aren't we

like I need Frank Todaro to do that line like

me sitting here talking to Frank and just calling

Starscream absurd and him replying certainly,

but aren't we all I oh god, I could hear that

in Frank's voice. I hear in Lada's Well, yes,

obviously, but I mean that's like I I hear it

in the original versions No, no, no, absolutely.

But like I think my thing is I've heard I've

seen several old because Tia lovely lovely people

up there in Canada TF con protoman and all them

have uploaded panels from years ago from from

TF cons of past and one of them was it's it's

a panel with Frank Todaro Jason Marnotia and

John John Bailey and And one of them Frank as

Starscream is like Hi, I was curious like Who

gave the idea of Starscream like one of the leaders

of Cybertron just out of curiosity? Some weirdo.

What do you mean idea? He's always one of the

leaders of Cybertron I don't know the writers

people smarter than I am I'm just a monkey who

reads the lines, but I just oh I can't wait cannot

wait gonna send that email anyway So we get Megatron

the okay, this is a case of I don't know who

the hell this is who is talking to him it looks

like a like Pink version of cyclonus or it looks

like iron hide with a matrix on his head like

Like I am from the Primus prophets and I have

come to tell you that's you Yeah, yeah, I don't

know I tell you this because I want no part in

these lies and petty treacheries Okay, so this

is not a yeah, this is one of sentinels um cronies

cronies, okay got it got it got it. It's not

a It's an inconsequential bot cuz look who comes

out of the shadows Starscream Starscream Megatron

And I don't know what it is with the shadows

of this exchange, but you look at when this crony

first comes in and he's telling Megatron this

news that Soundwave will be arrested. Megatron's

face is purple. His whole face is purple, but

his, his helmet is the gray that it's supposed

to be. And then as the thing goes along. his

face changes like where he says you can come

out now his face is going back to gray but his

nose is still purple and then in one panel of

of him and Starscream it's all gray again i don't

know if that's the i don't know what's going

on with the colors there i don't know if that's

to show emotion on his face I have no clue. I

just noticed that now and I'm like, Hey, wait

a minute. His face is changing color. Probably

the way the light's hitting it. Whatever. I'm

probably reading too much into it. That's probably

the angles. I don't pay much attention to some

of the colors. I think it's just because the

room is dark and purple and I think it's meant

to show a shadow. Probably. We get back to the

Autobots. No, we stick with the Decepticons and

basically Megatron has given this news and he's

kind of resigned, you know, where where he's

given the news and he's the news is basically

I think he murdered them. I did not. And I do

not believe you want the ascent accounts to be

a part of any of this. So I thought you should

know. I have a look into it. Leave me. Obviously,

I can't do Megatron, but. And I love how he's

more so talking to himself than anybody else.

Very well. Crisis after all. It just... It's

just sad, man. Just that line. Like, you see

this Megatron wanting to be not... I mean, he's...

He knows he's on the opposition, but he doesn't

necessarily want to be bloodthirsty about it.

Exactly. Exactly. And hey, look! Astro Train!

Yay, whose ever idea was to do the purple astro

train and not the black and white one because

obviously the purple one is is Animation model

and character model and all that. I love you.

Whoever decided to do that And I'm taking astro

train I wish she had more to do but just having

him here in his train mode so cool and the Not

Decepticons, the Ascenticons, they're breaking

into a place and they're killing people. Oh boy.

Killing bots. Great. Man, some of these kills.

What's going on? Oh, boom. Like, yikes. Cat and

fodder. Pretty much, yeah. This is a big old

fight right now and really really dig again the

colors here pops so much Absolutely, love it

really digging it slipstream plug our box of

tricks in blackjack and plug yourself in sky

stalker and They're doing their thing to your

turn city speaker. I know I don't know I'm not

sure oh Boy remind him of his commitment for

the cause Lord So they are waking up vigilance.

That's not good. That's just not It's not good

So what are you thinking after this one? I mean,

I I like the aspects with Megatron in it and

Starscream but mm -hmm for the other bots that

are The public enemy number one. I have no idea

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the whole break -in

thing was to obviously get to the communication

with Vigilum and Vigilum, you know, is a Titan

and they're basically going to wake up a Titan

essentially. I love the Hal Laran alternate cover,

which is Optimus, Bumblebee, Chromia. I love

that. I think that's super cool. But I really

dig Livio's cover for issue 17. It's Megatron

in all red, with Cybertron in his sights. Oh,

I love this cover. See, look, Megatron can be

red without having to be a dragon. They do so

much better. True. So the Titan network subsidiary

hub is supposedly inactive, but that's what they're

doing there. They're trying to reactivate it

and Astro train you're just relegated to being

your train and I love what he says here where

he's Where he's commenting on what's going on?

Where slipstream is like come on out if come

on clear it out. We could have half of security

down on us soon I can defeat whichever half of

security dares to test us, Slipstream. Maybe

true, but unnecessary. They can't undo what we've

done, so we disappear and let events run their

course. And Astrotrain replies, disappointing,

and he transforms. Again, I just absolutely love

that they're using him in his train mode. That

is so cool. It always freaks me out when I see

cyclonus really not well cuz he's not like I

mean he's from the unicorn Stuff, but they made

him a separate character. Yeah, I Love that.

They've finally made him his own character That

he is his own purse like that was one of the

shining lights in the previous universe is that

cyclonus? Was once a decepticon and now he's

just kind of like this this non -aligned Person

and I think it's great that he's wrestling with

his demons. I think I really like how he does

this and how they how Brian's writing him and

and just Getting a look into his character without

him having to see him fight. Do I want to see

him fight? Sure. Absolutely I want to see him

in his jet mode. I want to see him flying by

I want to see him punching ultra Magnus whatever

But I love that they're giving him more to do

than just be a warrior. I could see that. We

go to Wheeljack and what's going on here? Oh,

Wheeljack and Gears. Now see, I never thought

I would see, I would see Gears again. Oh, Gears.

That bot. Love just seeing all of the... all

of this stuff like cosmos and gears and wheel

jet like this whole part of the the part of this

issue is like holy crap how many classic characters

can we put in here to get your eye to catch to

each one of them a lot apparently so they're

on the winged moon and what are they doing up

here Trying to take the base over so I don't

know they're doing acrobatics Oh, that's what

they're doing they're trying to get the Titan

net up that's what it is and That's not it's

working, but it's not really working all that

well Yeah, I kind of lost it out at the end of

this because I'm like what in the hell Like we

start with you know, we start with all of that

and then we go to dance break really That was

um, oh cuz it's aboard the Titan load star, okay

got it I will say I kind of checked out at the

end of this issue because I'm like what in the

hell is going on like seriously like as I'm just

kind of going back through this I'm like what

the fuck But this is Vigilum waking up and...

It's not a good thing, folks. Not at all. What

did you think of all this space stuff? I mean,

I don't mind the space stuff. I can see that

they made an effort to try and do something different.

Especially them dangling in outer space in varying

degrees. But... Yeah, I don't know I'm not Into

it per se and with the space battle and everything

else going on I mean, I have no idea who this

robot is that's yeah, I didn't and like yeah,

I recognize gears and I recognize wheel jack

but Pretty much everybody else, you know, I have

no investment in so I just could care less But

yeah, I don't I don't know Yeah Yeah, I'm hoping

when we get to volume 3 and we figure out what's

going on here We get some explanation of what's

going on next week that I get back into this

but seriously halfway through Issue 17 here.

I lost all interest I just the whole dance thing

took me out of it. And then I'm like, what's

going on? Oh, they're waking up vigil. And they're

doing this. They're doing that. Okay, fine. Sure.

I still don't know who this bot is or who that

bot is. And then we get the final issue of this

trade, which is RC and green light. Now I like

how they're doing this. Like you, they They give

us the full arc of what this part of the book

is supposed to be, which is the change in your

nature. We get the full story arc there. You

know, I mean, it's still going to continue. The

arc isn't over, but the arc and changing your

nature is over. And then we get this kind of

like breather at the end, which is the same thing

we'd got in the first volume with the Nautica

issue. And this is a RC in green light story

and I have no idea who green light is but I Liked

how this was written. I thought it was interesting.

I thought it was fun. I love the brighter Colors

because they're a little bit brighter in this

than they were in changing your nature and it's

basically RC and green light trying to escape

together Guess that's the basis of it. I don't

know. Yeah, this wow this went downhill really

fast folks. Sorry Seems like we've lost all our

steam Like I said, I enjoyed the story. I like

the art. I like the fact that RC has to you know

kick ass Which that I don't have a problem with

I just yeah Yeah, it just I don't know that shift

at the end of issue said the middle of issue

17 just all of a sudden was like This is a whole

different book and I don't like what am I missing

here? I don't know. I do like the transformations.

Obviously I like RC's Cybertronian mode. I like

green lights mode. I love the background colors,

obviously explosions and they do have some dark

colors in here, but I love just how, like I said

before, the juxtaposition of how dark it was

in the end of changing your nature to almost

how pastel it is in here which is kind of a nice

contrast between the dark and the light and yeah

we get the the alternate covers at the end we

get the the end of this story where um rc and

green light and i assume that's that's not chromia

i don't know who the no it It's just RC and green

light. They get to be together and they're in

the thing. Sorry folks. It, like I said, that's

the thing about IDW putting all of these in the

trades. Now this trade was, I want to say, I

know the third trade, which we'll be talking

about next week. That was $25 digitally. Wasn't

even on sale yet kind of thing and yeah But hey,

it's Audubotly April and we got to give you guys

Transformers content for Audubotly April Overall

volume 2 like I said, I love that they did Do

this stuff with putting galaxies in here? I just

think it would have been better if it was the

main overall story and galaxies would just be

No, I'm sorry apparently Volume 3 was $18 at

least it is now I just wish the galaxies was

just all in one trade 12 issues one trade by

itself What would you give volume 2 0 to 5 I

would probably give it a 3 .5 or Yeah, I mean

I would probably I want to give it a four but

there's enough that took me out of it that I

wasn't just Super invested. Yeah I'm gonna give

it a straight three. I almost want to give it

a two and a half I did enjoy the change in your

nature storyline up until the point where it

just went all haywire and just took me Took me

out of it I am still enjoying Brian ruckley's

writing. I just wish it was a little bit more

concise, maybe a few less character introductions.

That was the thing, like we were introduced to

so many new characters that we don't know, and

I'm not saying, oh my god, I'm a G1 fan and Beast

Wars doesn't count, but I'm not saying any of

that. What I'm saying is, find a way to mix the

two. Find a way to put the the classic characters

in with Any new additions you want to make and

then write it to the point where we get like

again? It's probably just me, but you said you

felt disconnected too, but I don't know Maybe

it's just the way the story was I have no clue

I do know next week when we talk about volume

3 all fall down We do start with the rise of

the Decepticons arc. We then have wheeljack orbital

decay Then they continue collecting galaxies.

They actually finish collecting galaxies in this

trade which is gauging the truth and storm horizon

So most likely folks instead of doing galaxies

by itself like I was going to have us do the

single issues We're just gonna cover it as part

of the trade which it's at the end of the trade

for volume 3 and I do know that volume 4 him

for um, it's a lot it collects 20 through 25

and Transformers escape one through five. I believe

let me look at this really quick Yeah transformers

volume for declaration of war collects transformers

number 25 to 30 The Valentine's Day special one

-shot as well as transformers escape one through

five That's a lot to read folks And like I said,

I I love that they're finally collecting them

and this is the one that's $25 I love that they're

collecting them like this, but at the same time

I know I have the option of reading them individually,

but I haven't bought the Transformers Escape

series yet, and the prices just aren't ready

for me yet to do that. Anything you want to bring

up? Anything you want to talk about before I

get the heck out of here with you? No, I don't

think so. All right. Join us next time. Episode

407 of The Pull Bag, where we will be talking

about Transformers Volume 3 All Fall Down. You

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