Back to the Future Volume 4: Hard Time Review

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Hello and welcome to the pull bag. This is episode

356. It is the middle of June. Well, it would

have been the middle of June. We're now almost

in July, or we are in July. peas grow there.

I am of course TF2 on Mike, joining me is my

time traveling companion Einstein, oh wait no,

Copernicus, oh wait no, basically it's that dog

Optimus Solo. Excuse me? Hey! You know, being

Doc Brown's dog is not a bad thing. If anything,

I would be Doc Brown and you would be the dog.

I don't think so. I'm not Doc Brown, I'm a fat

version of Marty. You would be Joey. Oh, no,

no, no, yeah No, I don't think so. No, that's

not happening. But you would be the other professor

Marcus Irving no, yes, no Stop it So we are back

and it is time for back to the future volume

for hard time from IDW publishing if you remember

folks last cheer i believe whenever the hell

we ended up hitting three hundred episodes might

have a few years ago i don't remember uh... episode

three hundred three oh four we did a lot of the

back to the future stuff from idw we're going

to be finishing that before the end of twenty

nineteen optimus solo is here with me to talk

about volume four and at some point later in

the year will finish out the main ongoing with

volume five which is time served uh... but back

to the future volume four uh... So this is let's

see here Story is done by John Barber and Bob

Gale script is done by John Barber art is done

by Marcelo Ferreira colors done by Jose Luis

Rio letters done by Sean Lee series assistant

edits done by Chase Marat's and the series that

it's done by Tom Walz. This basically includes

Stowaway to the Future and then the Hard Time

three -part story arc. Stowaway to the Future...

I think Bob Gale says in this opening letter

that it was like some sort of gag or something

or whatever or maybe it's part of the Hard Time

thing. I forget. I read the letter but I'm not

going to zoom in and read it now. If Stowaway

of the Future was a weird off -gag, I think they

could have left it out. Yeah, it was not good.

It was... I don't know. It just wasn't interesting.

It didn't connect enough to stuff we know from

the franchise. It was... I don't know. painful

to read it didn't connect enough to what the

series with the ongoing was already like it did

like we ended the last time you were here we

ended with uh... volume three who is marty mcfly

and that obviously is is marty stood you know

the big you know marty story that we had done

earlier covered in this first issue in this trade

is basically Doc Brown giving dr. Irving or professor

Irving female advice Yeah, yeah, I do love the

art though the art is very cool I Some of it

is is good Some of it. I have a problem with

so okay. We'll get into that a little bit more

not with the Actually not with the intro thing

yeah the intro the stowaway actually Was fine

with the art on the stowaway. I actually think

that's where it's stronger because you definitely

can see resemblances of Doc and his wife to what

we've seen in the movie etc and it's I guess

the main problem here is number one you have

the doc and the professor talking about women

which I Guess should be comedic because they're

not the two people you would go to for advice

on women So I guess that's supposed to be somewhat

comedic, but it's just hard to deliver that Comedy

through this form, I guess maybe And you do have

some little connections because when he goes

into the future you do see some Goldie Wilson

stuff and you know Some different things like

that you get to I think my favorite part of the

whole stowaway is when Doc Brown is in the future

and Much like we see in back to the future part

two where jaws the hologram jaws is coming out

of the movie thing we get to see Us a character

from the book that George McFly would have written

a match made in space and you have this like

spaceman coming out of The Metroplex kind of

at Doc Brown in the same way that jaws did So

that was cool because that was a direct connection

to the book that we saw George writing in the

movie series. It said So I like that I just I

don't know I don't know if I can buy Emmet going

to the future for this reason I Mean yeah, he's

like that's that's a little it's not an emergency.

It's not something. That's like dramatic like

that's something that he I Don't buy him that

he would do that. I don't know it's always been

like I got like something type of tragic event

or some type of emerges where we have to save

someone's life or we have to save the arc of

time. This is like literally he forgot his anniversary

present. Yeah. I mean, I think it worked out

in the end for what obviously he eventually got

her. The fact that, you know, he says close to

the end here, it won't be published or whatever

for 12 years or whatever, whatever it is, whatever

the number of the years is, yada, yada, yada.

But it's one of those things where Gotta remember

when this came originally came out it might have

it might have come out around Valentine's Day

I don't know I I have to go back and look But

it's one of those things where I think the end

result does work It's just getting the advice

from the two of them. They're like you said the

least likely of Men to get a romantic advice

from but yeah, I mean you have to understand

in this in this aspect that you know Marcus was

on a path to evil so I guess I mean because I

don't I'm not a huge fan of him as a character

yeah because of the lack of connection anything

like I know it's I know they have to create some

new characters and introduce us to new people

and whatnot but they're spending so much time

with this guy and it's like I really I would

have been fine if you Part of that one story

and then like left to the wayside. Yeah, like

I do enjoy the the 1893 stuff I do enjoy, you

know the fact that they go into the future And

his kid is with him as a stowaway So all that

stuff's good. I just there's way too much time

with this professor Martin guy or whatever his

name is Marcus Irving. Yes Marcus and I did love

that it because let's face it out of the two

boys out of their out of their children Vern

is the one that's more like Marty whereas Jules

is kind of a stick in the mud right and he's

like if you took Doc Brown and Split him in half.

It's two halves of his personality It's the logical

whatever and then there's the whimsical like

wants to do everything anything almost like Marty

And I'm glad that it was Vernon, not Jules, because

Jules wouldn't know what the hell to do. I'm

sure they would find a way to write it into his

character for him to get out of whatever situation

that ended up getting into, but Vernon's just

much more fun out of the two of them. And I don't

know, looking back at it, it doesn't seem like

it's that bad of a story, but while I was reading

it, for some reason, I was not super entertained.

I don't know why. But the art is good in the

stowaway. Yeah, the art is very, very good. The

art does not stay as good through the rest of

it, though. It like flip -flops. I go from liking

the art in the stowaway, but maybe the story

wasn't as good, to the story's fine in the rest

of it, but the art takes a nosedive for me. But

we'll get into some specifics with that as we

go along. Yeah, so we've got Hard Time, part

one of three. I love that his prison number is

1885. It's hilarious. And this is basically,

I think this is really what Bob was talking about

in his letter about some sort of backwards joke

between him and Zemeckis, Bob Gale, Robert Zemeckis,

when they were doing either one, two, or three,

I forget which one, about, you know, Whatever

happened to uncle Joey or how did uncle why is

uncle Joey always never getting out of jail and

never getting parole and whatever And I think

they turned it into a fairly good story Yeah,

I think it's a worthy part of the universe to

explore. It's one of those things that we didn't

really get much details on we didn't get any

Information as to why he was in jail really in

the movies or anything like that. So I think

it's a I think it's a good Choice for them to

explore. Yeah Absolutely so Basically thrown

right into it. I mean it starts off with him

getting out of jail and the McFly household is

trying to make Changes and adjustments to make

room for him to prepare for him and It's starting

to bring up questions for mr. Marty. Yes. Yes

it is And the main one is Well, what did uncle

Joey do and he's also learning about his past

with uncle Joey because it seems like he's forgotten

That they used to be buddies Yeah Yeah, it's

It's one of those things where You know you have

a young nephew and an older uncle kind of thing

and he wasn't too much older than Marty But he

was you know It's not like something out of Jerry

Springer where your uncle is six months older

than you or anything like that thank God Like

kind of brings me to one of the art sequences

or one of the cells or whatever you call it paid

Is that I really didn't care for if you are interested

you can go to page 34 in the series in the volume

or however you word that but Basically, this

is the Marty's talking to his siblings, etc.

And at one point, they're letting him know that

they used to be friends. And Marty says, slow

down a minute, Dave. What do you mean? I used

to love hanging out with Joey. I can't picture

how that is being said to match the art that

is drawn of Marty in that cell. Yeah, like he

is screaming in that picture, like anger. Yeah.

Screaming. Yeah, that's not matching the words.

And all he said is, I used to love hanging out

with Joey, he's asking a question. Yeah. And

then if you go two, two... Panels. Or two cells,

is that? Panels. Two panels further. Okay, I

don't know the comic talk, I'm sorry. But you

go to his sister. It looks like she's dumped

whatever she's eating on the top of her head.

Yeah. Like she has her hair and she had which

is texturized and Shaded and stuff like that

But then on the top of her head is a portion

of her hair That's not texturized or shaded or

anything and there's like an outline of it and

it looks like somebody literally dumped like

oatmeal on her headers Yeah, something or like

a pancake or and her eyes are like barely open

and I don't know. It's just hideous looking Yeah,

she has this weird Scowl grimace You know, squirrel

looking things. And it's weird because that thing

on her head, I'm not going to call it her hair,

the food that she dropped on her head follows

her through most of this. It's in the next one.

And then as you go forward, most of the time

where she shows up, it's still there. So I don't

know why somebody decided that's a good look.

You also see it if you go to page 37. You see

it there. Mm -hmm, and you kind of see it on

Marty there too a little bit. Yeah, it must be

an artist choice Yeah, I see what you're saying.

It's like a weird style, but it was throwing

me off Yeah, and all as I can think of as well.

There must be something about McFly cuz there's

something in their hair and Yeah, and I just

think throughout this throughout this thing.

There's some weird The illustrations don't always

match the words that are being said Yeah, like

the emotion I guess. Yeah. Yeah, you're right

and it's it's kind of sad and and for me when

I'm reading the story I'm focusing on the story

and usually that's usually why we not necessarily

that we end up going panel by panel here page

by page Whatever, but I will be looking through

the book as we're talking about it and I'm noticing

it now even more Like even on that page 37 that

same one like at the top Yeah, he's saying no.

I got to find out what Joey did to get sent to

prison for 14 years like yes He's saying that

probably in somewhat of a like a an exasperated

way, but that picture is him still like screaming

Losing his mind. Yeah It just doesn't always

match up and then like it's a really cool drawn

picture of Marty at the bottom of page 37 like

the last Panel But again does is that Marty like

it's very well drawn and it's a very cool looking

face. Yeah But we've seen throughout all of these

volumes that Marty looks like a thousand different

ways Yeah, like it's like sometimes. It's very

movie Marty sometimes. It's very comic book Marty

sometimes. It's calm Michael sometimes. It's

serious. Yeah And I think it's again. I think

it's just the artist's interpretation because

I don't know I do not know if IDW got The likeness

rights to and you look at all those artists,

you know, good. Oh, sorry. Look at the very last

picture on that page 37. Yeah And then, if you

were to do a side -by -side with the picture

that's on 38 of him. Yeah. That's not the same

person. No. But he still has the hair. Yeah.

Pancake. Yep. Pancake hair, yay. But that is

a cool panel. Page 38 is kind of cool. Yeah.

Yeah, especially when you... Go ahead. Oh, go

ahead, go ahead. Especially when you use the

Comixology Guided View feature, because it takes

you... panel -by -panel -by -panel and then you

get to see various things and then it will eventually

uh... doesn't them it you sometimes when they

do that it will eventually show the full panel

but i notice that i'm like anyway let me go back

to page one oh well that's a nice big splash

page of the events that are going on that he's

going to all these family members try to figure

out what in the hell Happened to Joey. Why did

Joey end up in jail? Yeah, and this panel that

we're tired of this page that we're talking about

38 is him kind of going to all kinds of different

people to try to figure out why he went to jail

so he's talking to his His Joey's brothers and

sisters, which I don't know why it doesn't say

like Marty's aunt or uncle but And then he's

talking to the police. He's talking to Strickland.

He's talking to Jennifer's mom. So he's talking

to a lot of people which Guess ask a couple questions

here. I mean it's cool that we're introducing

new elements of the families and the people that

we don't know obviously we know Strickland we

know Jennifer and obviously Jennifer's gonna

have a mom mm -hmm were we aware that is that

ever said anywhere in the movies that Marty as

Like 17 uncles and aunts and stuff like that

Because it says like six kids it says so he should

have five aunts and uncles and they only mention

Joey ever in the movies like that seems odd to

me Little bit I think it is Inferred and I think

it might be mentioned somewhere about the fact

that Lorraine has a big family on her side, okay,

but Yeah, Joey is the only more than her grandparents

were alive. I guess they're there in that right

one They come over at one point right in the

back to the future part two. Yeah briefly Yeah,

so we got uncle Toby aunt Sally uncle Milton

and apparently There's one more somewhere Yeah,

somewhere because if there's six that's three

of them plus Joey plus Lorraine. Yeah, so we're

missing one aunt or uncle but It's a cool page

either way. Oh, yeah, absolutely So yeah, that

was my main problem with the art was just sometimes

I don't feel like it Matt Just up and I think

if you took all of the Marty pictures in the

whole series and like put them side by side by

side by side It'd be an interesting experiment

So yeah, it's just This whole first part is Marty

trying to figure out why Joey went to prison

like that's basically the first hole Whatever

not volume, but the first part of this volume.

Yep so which brings him to Doc Brown who's obviously

with our friend Which I can't ever remember his

name doctor professor Irving. Yep. Yes professor

Irving and Trying to figure out if there's a

if they should go back in time and figure out

what happened to Joey or not and this is where

Doc talks about how going back in time should

be only for emergencies it should be for this

is should be for that though we went back for

the anniversary all right obviously and i mean

you know we are we're good we also learned something

interesting here which is because he's brings

up the name that joey bains is going to be in

marty house and dot loses his mind Yeah, he does.

He's like you must stay away from him at all

times Marty. You can't go anywhere near him Oh

my god, it's the end of the world Right, so that's

something that we didn't know beforehand that

there was gonna be a history between Doc and

Joey. Yeah Didn't know that at all Yeah, this

one this next chapter Well, at least the the

pancake hair is gone Yeah, yeah for the most

part very true. Oh, we also got to see another

kind of tidbit here. We get to see that Marty

is at home while I guess everybody else was going

to get Joey out of jail and take him out to eat

or do whatever I don't know why he wasn't along

for that, but anyways Marty is at the house and

there's a package for Joey Baines and Marty commits

a felony and opens Joey's mail And it's a picture

of And her face is covered not covered, but the

picture is like curled so we can't see her face

altogether There's a note that says together

we can find the loot So and he hides it Yeah,

that doesn't come back into play at all in the

rest remainder of this volume. So I'm assuming

it volume five Yeah, it probably will I would

assume so I don't think they would have you know

Shown that and then not Right. This isn't television.

They don't just drop something and never pick

it up again Especially since apparently this

series had a shelf life because volume 5 is the

final volume for the series for the main ongoing

Outside of as I mentioned earlier the separate

seer the time train series, which only had one

volume anyway So I don't know if IDW's back to

the future license ran out or if they just Felt

that the story was Done and good and whatever

if the sales weren't that I don't know how any

of that whatever but But yeah, I mean this is

these next three books are essentially it or

that this and the other two Right part one ends

with Joey's return home. Yep. So he arrives comes

in the door Greets Marty and That's basically

where part one ends. Yep part Part two starts

out with the scariest picture of Joey in the

whole volume because he doesn't look like this

in any of the other pages, but he's got like

a torn, like a sleeveless shirt that's like the

sleeves have been torn off. He's got massive

tattoos on, massive muscles. He's literally curling

cinder blocks. Like, what is going on here? Yeah,

I don't understand. He doesn't look as big in

any of these other pictures. Yeah, no, he doesn't.

Oh, by the way, we forgot to say that his brother

is Duke. Oh, okay. His brother, I know they call

him Toby, but that's Duke from GI Joe. Funny.

And hey, look, another cake. That's always a

gag in the films about, well, I guess we're gonna

have to eat this cake by ourselves, because Uncle

Joey didn't make parole. Yeah, so she's making

him a welcome home uncle Joey cake while the

whole family is around we got all the aunts and

uncles and grandparents and Siblings and nephews

and nieces and whatever But it doesn't go so

well, it's kind of like most families yeah Shit

starts getting crazy. Yeah I think my favorite

part in this whole part of the story is When

professor it's it's what we would get to a point

where professor Irving and Marty end up using

the DeLorean and going back in time They run

into the weed bus back in time and they basically

have to you know hover over and basically do

this whole Reverse flip kind of thing. I thought

that was a cool cool panel Yeah, so basically

what happens here is they have a problem at the

family, you know celebration Marty It kind of

goes off on his Uncle Joey. Uncle Joey storms

out, which leads Marty to Professor Irving and

Professor Irving decides, even though Doc's not

there, to help Marty out and take the car back

to the future. 1972 is where we're going and

that's where that happens with what Mike is talking

about where they come back and they're in the

middle of the street with traffic and pedestrians

and all kinds of stuff and they almost like commit

some more felonies. It's a good thing that It's

a good and a bad thing that DC Comics, I think,

has the Scooby -Doo license, because for half

a second in that one part of the panel where

you see the DeLorean flipping over the van, I'm

like, hey, that's the mystery machine. Oh, wait.

No, no, no. That's not the mystery machine. So

then they fly the car up to a rooftop, which

people could see that the car was flying, so

that's kind of a problem. And then they decide

to go to, because he has discovered with Jennifer's

help that... uh... his uncle joey stole from

uh... mrs ellsworth uh... eighty five thousand

dollars and that's why he went to jail or at

least that's what the one article says so they're

going to go to mrs ellsworth's house uh... and

see what's i don't know what their motive was

here but uh... that's where they're going to

go into the house to see what they can see i

guess they're going to see why joey and why mrs

ellsworth and why this and why the robbery and

turns out that mrs ellsworth is doc brown's mother

so doc brown opens the door although that is

not anything closely resembling doc brown yeah

well you know i mean it was the 70s handlebar

mustaches or mustache twirling scientists was

all the rage back then i guess i don't know i

think even if you take that mustache off it doesn't

look yeah like doc brown but maybe but he enters

he's got a purple shirt he's got a handlebar

mustache he looks like definitely of the times.

And Professor Irvin has to act like he's a salesman.

And that's how they figure out that, yeah, Mrs.

Ellsworth is Doc Brown's mother. So that's obviously

why Doc Brown didn't want Joey Baines in the

house because of the connection there when he

apparently stole $85 ,000 from his mom. Or at

least that's what we're led to believe without

knowing all the details of the crime. So we have

a whole interaction there between Professor Irwin

and Doc Brown Which he's worried that it might

be problematic because now Doc Brown Met Professor

Irwin before he's supposed to meet him Marty

basically stays in the bushes like we've seen

in multiple other volumes where we've covered

of the IDW back to the future stuff, so That's

not uncommon where Marty's kind of peering in

from a window or in a bush or something of that

nature So they hide It out of there once they

figure that out go back to the roof The cars

gone cars gone no DeLorean and that's how part

two ends. Yep So that is a dilemma I do love

the We'll talk about this at the very, very end,

but at the end of each of these, we get an alternate

cover before the next new beginning cover. I

love how they did a Funko pop Marty with the

guitar cover. That's hilarious. And then we get

the cover for Actual Part 3, which is Doc Brown

in his 70s look with the same thing that he had

on his head, the brainwave thing that we see

from the movie. So that is hilarious. uh... and

now we have to figure out what happened to the

delorean there's multiple different options here

number one is the delorean disappeared because

it was never invented now because of their interaction

with doc brown obviously another conclusion would

be that somebody stole the vehicle uh... and

i guess we have to figure out if that was somebody

from the seventies or if it was another like

this type thing where somebody else follow them

or to use a time machine to get there or something

of that nature so we gotta figure out If the

DeLorean is still in 72 and they can find it

and get home or if they have to somehow Go back

and re -interact with people to the point where

they're gonna reinvent it if that's what happened

So that's kind of interesting Yeah, it's also

interesting because basically we get the whole

part here most of part two and all the part three

where instead of Marty and Doc It's Marty and

Irving. Yeah How did you like that? I'm getting

used to Professor Irving. At first, I very much

did not like him, even when he was evil. Even

now that he's good, he's not my favorite character.

But I understand what they're going for here.

They're trying to tell you... how everything

connects. They're trying to tell you how Joey

and Doc and Doc's mom and Marty and every...

so they can't have Marty and Doc on this adventure

because Doc doesn't even know, like... this isn't

like, you know, going back to 1955. This isn't

like, oh, great, future boy, who's the president

in 1985? Ronald Reagan! Ronald Reagan, the act

tall! You know, I mean this isn't like that this

is completely different which I think is good

It's giving something to the back to the future

mythos. It's creating something that we didn't

know before It's creating it's building a story

around the characters, which I like Yeah, so

basically they have to go find The first option

is to go find Doc Brown and see if it was that

you know, make sure that they Haven't dissuaded

him from building the time machine in the first

place still professor Irving instead of going

to Ellsworth's house, Mrs. Ellsworth's house

Doc Brown's mom. He's gonna go to the workshop

Where Doc Brown is working on some of his tinkering

of some of his inventions and stuff of that nature

So we have another interaction now a whole sequence

with Irving and Doc Brown and his dog Galileo

Which is always good with his different dogs,

but yeah, it turns out that The interaction doesn't

end so well because Doc Brown suspects that Irving

is from the government based on his previous

dealings with the Manhattan Project and things

of that nature So Professor Irving has to really

kind of get out of there. Yeah Yeah, and obviously

if you folks listen to I think it's episode 303

302 303 I forget which one we covered citizen

Brown and the whole Manhattan Project government

thing so completely understand why Doc is the

way he is when it comes to being skeptical about

Marcus. Yeah, and it does reference some of those

issues and Volumes throughout the things as you

know as seen in this volume or different like

that kind of give you that hint Then we got Marty

kind of going through 1972. He sees a Richard

Nixon Protests he sees a Ford Pinto on sale.

That's only $2 ,100 and he says man. That must

be a fire sale sure thing pal he gets to see

Some a track tapes he gets to see Strickland

leaving the movie theater for after seeing the

Godfather So all of that is pretty interesting

and then he Gets to see himself as a child with

uncle Joey. Yep So there's a whole sequence of

that And that's where we kind of get back into

the Uncle Joey story thing. Right. Uncle Joey

gets in trouble for playing with Marty on the

furniture, so he storms off. Our Marty is in

a tree watching this. Little Marty is running

out after Joey into traffic and into the street.

Uncle Joey is protecting him and holding him

to make sure he doesn't get hurt. And then basically

has another interaction with Lorraine and then

runs off. Yep. I like the art in the last half

of this now. Yeah. Past the point where it's,

let me see if I can get the, starting at page

86, where, you know, we see Marty and Joey, current

Marty and Joey, and they kind of face off against

each other or whatever. Like I like the I like

the shades I like the fact that it's nighttime

I like the way the shadows play off each other

The the way when the car comes up absolutely

love that I just I love everything about that

part of the art and thankfully by this point

Marty no longer has pancake head, right? Yeah,

it was interesting cuz not We have future Marty

actually having an interaction with past Joey

and trying to play it off that he's just a friend

of the McFly's and he's looking out For him and

that type of thing that doesn't mean anything

George McFly meanwhile is out in his car looking

for Joey to try to make sure he is okay. So we

have three different people Interacting and we've

got to be careful about those interactions because

we don't want to upset the time continuum and

all that jazz So it's kind of an interesting

predicament and then we get it introduced to

Biff. Yep, it ends on a good... It basically

seems like somehow Joe has been involved in this

gang with Biff and whether he's been forced to

do stuff or whether he's voluntarily doing stuff

I don't know but he's bringing future Marty over

to them. Yep. And Biff recognizes him. Yep. Doesn't

know why though. Doesn't know why and... Think

that's and I don't because I'll tell you right

now I read this volume back when I had originally

came out when I when I originally bought it when

we originally had plans to do this like Six and

a half seven month whatever it was last whatever

the hell it was we had I had plans to have this

covered a year and a half ago or whatever But

you know life gets in the way whatever I remember

reading this and I remember damn to be continued

What the come on? The end of this and I'm like

you butt heads and then I mean I understand why

they're doing it So they can have another like

because if you look at the back like volume one

Dealt with certain things volume two was continuum

conundrum volume three was all about Marty Volume

four is telling volume four and five are telling

the story. Well, apparently the story is too

big for just one volume Which is fine. It's not

a bad thing at all But I got to the end of this

when I read it again, and I'm like, oh, damn

it. That's a good way to leave it off. It's a

good cliffhanger. They did that well with each

part. As far as how they left off, each one was

very well done. Absolutely. And I love how...

Like, I don't remember off the top of my head

what's gonna happen, because I haven't really

read it, but I've read, like, synopsis and things

for volume five, but volume four is called Hard

Time, as I've said so far, and volume five is

Time Served. So, maybe there's a happy ending

for Uncle Joey? Who knows? I mean... We shall

see. We shall see. Overall... Minus, uh, still

away in time, or whatever the first, the... The

time travel adventure in the beginning was overall

hard time. I think it's this first, like, half

of the arc. I think it's good. I think that the

writing is good. I think the story is interesting.

The art is... Hit or miss? Yeah. Like I said,

page 86 on, which is almost at the end of the

book, I really dug it. Certain points... In the

rest of it, I really dug it. Like that one big

splash page of Marty and all the events of talking

to all the family members. I liked that. As you

said, with certain parts of the character's looks

and things and pancake hair or whatever that

was, that's kind of iffy. But it's not the best,

but it's not the worst. Right. I don't know.

I've got enough cool... This got enough cool

panels and covers and different things and individual

images that are cool. It's just a couple of times.

Sometimes they just don't match with what the

words are. And then, like I said, a couple of

times. I think most of the characters, they're

pretty consistent with. But for some reason,

Marty, throughout these different volumes, has

had just the weirdest different looks. And they're

all probably fine. But when you see them all

in relative, you know, consecutive order, it's

like, whoa. The different, the 20 different looks

of Marty McFly. This is not the Marty you're

looking for. Yeah, basically. Any other final

thoughts from you on this one? I mean, if you're

a fan of Back to the Future, I think this adds

a little bit. You get to see some other characters

that you didn't get to see a lot in the movies.

You get to see some of the old people make their

returns. You get to see some different connections.

So I think all that's worth it and fun enough.

And it's not like it's this enormously long read

or anything like that. And I mean you get through

it fairly quickly and I think you'd find it enjoyable

I think I if I was to rank all the volumes I

don't think this would be at the top for me.

I don't Know what exactly would be but it's still

worth the read Yeah, we'll do that at the end

Yeah, for me I feel the same way it's not like

I said, it's not the best but it's not the worst

I feel that the story is unique enough and interesting

enough that it carries me on to be, Hey, what's

going to happen next? Like, Oh, I want to read

volume five right now. Not really. Cause I have

other things to do at the moment, but it's one

of those things where it's that feeling of like,

not necessarily you've picked up an amazing,

amazing book and you can't put it down, but it's

that feeling of I need to know what happens next

because I am now invested in this that I need

to read the next thing to finish the story. Right.

Zero to five. What would you give this one? Probably

like a three, three and a half. Yeah, I'm right

there with you. Three, three and a half. The

story is great. Like I said, I know I keep repeating

myself on that point and the art. It like you

said it's it's kind of hit or miss It's by no

means bad. It's by no means, you know, I will

never read this again Kind of thing like if I

want to remember Well, yeah, cuz we're not artists

don't get me wrong Yeah, any artist that does

any any work like this or any work in whatever

like absolutely, you know amazing So I think

that's going to do it for us here inside The

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the month of June with Turtles and Transformers.

We've got episode 357 is the invasion of the

Triceratons arc for the IDW TMNT series and then

IDW did a Transformers Bumblebee movie prequel

to the smash hit Bumblebee film, thankfully that

is not directed by Michael Bay. And then at the

beginning of July we start our very first, first

time in six and a half years that we've covered

this character. We start Superman coverage because

we're going to get into DC's black label with

Superman year one, number one, with myself and

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