He-Man and Thundercats Crossover Review

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It's been, like I said, over a year. slightly

over a year that we had done the he -man eternity

war finale with issue 14 and 15 and Since that

time they had released he -man thundercats the

first he -man thundercats crossover And upcoming

they're gonna be doing injustice versus mo to

kind of like how they did DC universe versus

mo to which we had already covered So they're

doing a whole bunch of things with he -man thundercats

dare. I say this is something we have been wanting

since 1985 yeah, this this seems to feel it feels

it like it's coming natural unlike you know with

the DC ones that just sometimes the characters

don't meld with the other ones well right those

capsules they're they're thundercats Absolutely,

but He -Man Thundercats, it's a six -issue miniseries

that was published by DC Comics. I am viewing

it in the trade. I love the opening page here

with just the He -Man Thundercats logo with the

blue on it. Love that. He -Man and Lionel on

the creative page. To get the creative out of

the way, Rob David and Lloyd Goldfein are our

writers on this. Freddie E. Williams II is the

artist on this. The last time we would have seen

Freddy, he was doing Batman TMNT for DC and IDW.

Jeremy Calwell is the colorist. Daron Bennett

is on letters. Obviously series and collection

covers done by Freddy E. Williams II and all

of that other stuff. We open up to a full -on

splash page of the first issue basically. He

-Man and the Thundercats versus mum -raw Skeletor

the mutants and the evil warriors very very very

cool love that image and We open with the first

chapter swords and omens Let me ask you this.

What do you think now? I did not read this in

single issue. I just read this right before the

recording in trade What do you think of the black

and white? Story covers that we have for these

six issues Well with the art in general it has

this sketchy almost bestial feel to it and which

I feel Lends itself more towards the thundercats

than it does with any of the master stuff, right?

So I'm digging on it It compared to the cover

the art seems a little tighter, right? So yeah,

I'm game. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah, I love

it I thought it was really really interesting

and how they did that just keeping it black and

white so we open this with mum -rah versus lion

-o as always with opening narration and cat -slayer

in the background we get the black pyramid and

we get this opening narration that's basically

telling us you know uh... it's saying uh... what

is it saying here uh... it says you might not

know what to look at him here facing ignomest

defeat at the hand Or should I say the blade

of his most hated enemy? But this shambling bandaged

encased wretch Is one of the most powerful beings

in all creation How do you feel that that they

how they captured cats later in that first panel?

And then the black pyramid in the top panel of

the next page Well, I'm always down for the black

pyramid. It looks like it was pulled straight

from the cartoon it does So we find out that

this is set on Third Earth. Now with a lot of

these Thundercats comics, I don't know in what

continuity or what timeline we're going, because

towards the end of the cartoon series, they made

their way to New Thundera. So I'm always expecting

that to come up. But it never does. Not in this.

See, this I see as... An alternate version for

thundercats only not necessarily masters, but

for thundercats It's a somewhat alternate version

of after they've been on like they've been on

third earth for a while like right before season

two hits right before like the thundercats home

movie hits like Right after they get to third

earth, but maybe like a year or two after that

So it's if you look at it in the in the context

of the old cartoon series It's let's say year

after they first land uh... so you know cats

layer is built mumra is doing all this stuff

uh... you know you know that would make sense

because later down the line they mention how

why those not truly the king yet so he is yet

to go through the united trials right exactly

and they even specifically say later at the end

of the thing that he is actually you know only

12 years old or something or other even though

in the cartoon series and again this is not the

cartoon series but even on the cartoon series

that Jaga did say some aging would happen I don't

know that doesn't really bother me so we get

Mamra the ever -living we get him talking to

his ancient spirits of evil And we get a really

cool transformation scene kind of on the on the

last panel here before we head to Eternia I love

Freddie Williams's art His art to me I had first

read him in Batman TMNT the the first crossover

that they had done I have not read Batman TMNT

2 yet I'm not sure if he's on the second one.

I assume he would be but on the TMNT Batman one

I thought his art was a little strange but I

got used to it after a while this to me immediately

because everyone has put so much of their own

stamp on the Masters with everything that you

and I have talked about and God knows like how

long we've been doing this two or three years

at this point Everything that they've been doing

every artist has brought a different stamp has

brought their own stamp to it But still is Masters

of the universe with thundercats. I don't think

I've seen any thundercats comics in the modern

era I Don't have modern are we talking the last

15 years? They did a bunch around like 2002 2001

and yeah, I have all those Okay, I have never

seen those. So for me, going from what I knew

in my childhood to this specific trade, I'm like,

oh, it's like, you know, the classic Thundercats.

It's not like that heavily divisive new series

that's coming next year. Thundercats Roar! Okay,

apparently we're going to have to have a discussion

about this off air. folks because he just growled

like mumrah oh wow not a fan i take it huh no

not willing to give it a shot huh when when the

2011 series came on i had a viewing party for

the premiere at my house uh -huh and that was

an event i was almost i know i was in tears over

certain parts of that right And then, we get

this. Yeah, that'll be in the outtakes, folks,

that we'll talk about Thundercats' roar from

Cartoon Network. So we head to Eternia. We head

to the Palace of P - uh, not the Palace of Power,

the, um, Eternos, the, uh, King Randor's Palace

and all that. And Prince Adam, as always, is

late. And... Damn. They nailed him. I mean, this

whole scene of him running and being late and

everything else, I love this. The palace looks

great. All of the characters look great. Yeah,

in a lot of the other comics that we've read

for Masters, they've tried to kind of modernize

them or go with the style guide for the classics

figures. Here we get the classic renditions of

a lot of characters. We'll see... Is it this

page? Yeah They actually depict Ramman as really

short as he was in the toy rather than this hulking

beast that he's been portrayed as for the past

like since past 2000. Yeah Yeah, I mean and Ramman

even in the show was always a little shorter

than then than everybody so very very very cool

So everybody outside basically says the skies

the skies the gods what is happening and Eternia

and earth and I should say third earth are basically

pulling a ultimate doom from transformers where

Cybertron came to earth well Eternia or earth

third earth has come to Eternia We get to see

basically all of the Thundercats in one giant

panel here. It starts with Lino, Chitara, Tigra,

Panthero, Wile E. Kittencat, and of course everyone's

favorite, Shnarf. And we even get Jugga. Okay,

so I'm more of a Thundercats fan than I am a

Masters fan. Right. So this is where I get really

picky. Okay. Jaga is only supposed to appear

to Lion -O and no other Thundercat. Okay. And

here he clearly appears to all of them and Jitar

even refers to him, the fact that he's there.

Okay. I understand your point and you're right.

But they do call back to it later. of how, you

know, Lionel even says, oh, you were talking

to Jago, weren't you? So they do kind of, you

know, basically upend it. You're right, it is

a little crazy that he's talking to everybody.

He is only supposed to appear to Lionel. But

if I remember correctly, in the series in the

first few ep - I'd say the first 15 episodes

the others were also able to see him maybe not

necessarily talk to him but they were able to

at least see him I could have sworn at least

once I could be wrong but you're right you're

right I mean it is a little strange that Chitara

is having to save Snarf excuse me You know, that

kind of a thing. So, Liono does the, you know,

site beyond site with the Sword of Omens, and

I love that. I love that panel. They give me

site beyond site. That looks so cool. Yeah, just

like the cartoon. Yep. Absolutely. We go back

to Eternia, where Orko is trying to help, and

Orko's help is not exactly welcome, apparently,

because Orko... Yeah. No, not really. Yeah, the

I'm like I saw a ram man earlier But seeing him

here in this battle scene where the where the

text says and whatever these circus freaks are

supposed to be he's He's pretty small which is

good like you said it's basically going off the

toy going off the old cartoon I'll tell you right

now the one line like by Thundera. I don't care.

I I don't care. That's you know, whatever gray

skulls bane i'm gonna get tired of that so fast

it's just a little little strange so we have

this giant explosion here we have the king kind

of falling and almost to his death and and basically

adam jumps in and saves his dad and then cringer

brings him the sword And he basically transforms

in front of his father. Well, he almost does.

I wish he would have, but I love that panel.

The way Adam's holding the sword, and obviously

by the power of blah blah blah blah. And then

the sorceress comes in, and... Basically... Uh

oh. I can sense that you're not a fan of this.

Well... I mean, sometimes, like, gore and whatnot

in some of these franchises, I'm not all down

for. Like, you know, in anything else, I'm fine

with it. Right. But given the fact that the Sorceress

can't retain her human form outside of Grayskull,

don't you think he would have thought something

was up? Yeah. Yeah, you would think. And yeah,

that is a little wonky. Very actually So you'd

think And she basically kills Prince Adam with

his own sword right in the chest Prince Adam

the next shrimp on the barbie Foster's it's Australian

for beer So we have Lionel and pan throw trying

to fight these things and all of that and The

sword basically shows him something or shows

him the way to get stuff done and they get their

vehicle. It's a big mismatch. It's Sorceress

who's coming out of her disguise because it's

actually Mumrah. You know, and Cringer tries

to help Adam, and that's... Be gone, you filthy

beast! I, oh, how I detest cats! And it's, uh,

Mumrah, the ever -living. Now, I'm not a big

gore fan myself, mostly in, like, I don't do

horror movies, I barely do horror comics at the

time, but... That image is pretty powerful. With

Mumrah holding the sword in his chest. I mean,

that's... I mean, he's ready to and does just

swing him around with that thing. Pretty much,

yeah. Basically hoists him up, and yeah. Just

crazy. And of course, you know, everything changes,

and he says, by the power of Grayskull, what's

that boy speak up? I have the power. I love the

way Freddy did this panel of He -Man breaking

free and Mumra in the top left eye. That is so

gorgeous. It is so friggin' cool. Absolutely

love that. And uh, you know, whoever you are,

you talk too much. I love that. We're not even

through the first issue yet folks. There's just

so much in this first issue. I Can't believe

they packed all of this in What are you thinking

at this point right before we get to snake mountain

Well other than getting on the feline or how

are that how the Thundercats gonna know what

to do here I mean mom right is just Massive he

is and just as he should be Yep. He's also feeble,

as he should be. So the ancient spirits basically

punish him, and they've made a deal with another.

It's Skeletor. Yeah, at this point we finally

learn who's been narrating this entire issue.

That's what I love about this series the narration

isn't just from somewhat like I Couldn't see

Tila narrating this I couldn't see like you know

how some stories will have one narrator And it

be a different character than who's actually

narrating kind of a thing I love that they did

this this way throughout this whole trade. I

love that Overall After this first issue, what

are you thinking? Like, what are your expectations?

Where exactly this is going to go? I mean, I

always like seeing the ancient spirits of evil,

um, showcased a little more. Because I feel like

they never do enough. Right. Right. Yeah. Um,

yeah, the, the first issue was amazing. Like

I read, I normally it takes me like, let's say

Most trades are Five six issues most of them

are like a hundred and twenty something pages

it usually takes me I don't know through four

hours to get through one because I can't sit

here all at once I read this within 45 minutes

And I've said this before I said this last week.

I'll say this every week on this podcast I Read

the story first while I do appreciate the art

the story is going through I mainly saved my

art appreciation to actually talk about it in

the show as we're recording it because I want

to get the story first and look at the pretty

art later so fair enough chapter 2 or issue 2

when thunder strikes I love the cover they just

love it it's basically everybody I'm definitely

more a fan of the issue title, The Black and

White. Yeah, When Thunder Strikes, yeah. Yeah,

because the Skeletor thing, yeah. Very, very,

very cool. With the red eyes. Beautiful picture

of Snake Mountain. Basically, Skeletor has disintegrated

Mumrah into some sort of drinkable ale, and he's

going to basically drink the essence of Mumrah.

I can't even finish that sentence. Skeletor,

why'd you do that? She likes to grind at the

bones of his enemies. I love it. I love what

Skeletor says. Mumra's dirty remains are still

surprisingly quite potent. Mumra's like, that's

rich, you calling my remains dirty. And, you

know, Skeletor finally realizes, so long as evil

exists, Mumrah lives. And they have this kind

of back and forth, back and forth fight kind

of a thing, and they eventually will start working

together, but yeah, Skeletor basically has the

power sword, has everything he wants. Basically

says he man has never been more vulnerable You

know we go to back to he man and Randor and Randor's

like but Adam where is Adam is my son safe and

Cringer oh Yeah, he's safe couldn't be safer.

I Love Cringer Was wondering like I know the

whole point of this whole thing is the fight

over the power sword But I was like I was really

wondering when he was gonna turn into battle

cat. I'm glad We'll talk about this later when

it actually happens. I'm glad they did what they

did because for me. It's more emotional You know

and again, I'll let you do your thoughts on it

when we get to it But I'm now that you've said

what you've said so far about thundercats. I'm

not sure if you're gonna I don't know if you

would have enjoyed this how they got Cringer

to be the way he's not necessarily supposed to

be but you know his his other version of himself

so Evelyn pops in the the evil warriors pop in

with the mutants and it's an all -out brawl I

do really like the artwork on the mutants here.

Yes, it looks so good! Um, you know, He -Man's

like Evil -In, ugh, among others. Like, they

got Slive down so perfect. Absolutely love that.

Jackleman, Monkey -In, hell, Monkey -In working

with Beast -Man is just genius. Surprised Beastman

isn't able to control him fully. I know, right?

That's what I was thinking. I'm like, why aren't

you just, you know, controlling him with your

own will? Like, come on, Beastman, do your job.

But we have this whole fight with the mutants

and the evil warriors. I love all of this. Freddie

Williams' art is great. Rob David and Lloyd Goldfein.

the writing is amazing the way this story is

unfolded what are you feeling at this point so

far within this battle scene here um well i love

how they do show off that vulture man is kind

of the tech genius and he brings out these uh

equilibrium defibrillators and it the artwork

for them kind of borders between a master's toy

and something he would come up with, so it jails

really well between the two factions that are

against He -Man. Yeah. I love, um, when he first

kinda debuts here with Vulture Man. Tri -Jaw,

Trap Clops. Yeah. Is that bird brain talking

to us? What is it, vulture pants? Like... And

I love that at least in this panel trap jaws

jaw is purple and not like this fuchsia pink

thing So they're like you said the equilibrium

defibrillators All of that he man crushes a mace

with his bare hands They fire the things and

he man just you know easy man. He's gonna be

able to absorb it all he's gonna you know be

able to do everything evil in starts in on it

all of that i love the shot of all the warriors

and the mutants together uh that was so cool

um well like her her um spell seemed to have

worked in the first place so i don't see why

they they wasted all that time and energy for

these defibrillators They probably needed something

for the mutants to do Like if you're if you're

giving equal footing to both franchises They

probably needed something for the mutants to

do on their end to contribute something I guess

So we get a scene no one buries the power of

grayskull We get everybody kind of just, you

know, being beaten. And then we go back to Snake

Mountain where Skeletor is going to have a drink.

I love the panel where he's holding the glass

up and you see Mumra's dead ashes in the background

like, noooooooo! Alas, you Mumra shall be living

nevermore. It's hilarious. So funny. Hey, at

least it didn't you know melt his jaw Me like

we don't draw the Skeletor. I know that was just

so bad So Skeletor now has the power because

he has the sword he has mumra You know as a giant

red he -man symbol on his chest And we basically

get you know he -man becoming Prince Adam and

gonna be dying again and King randor is like

Adam How could I have not seen this even though

the two of you look exactly the same? And this

isn't one of those instances where you know Adam

is built like an actual teenager. This is This

is a toy. Yeah, it's Filmation Prince Adam. Exactly.

This is again. This is why I love this series

This is taking both franchises in the classic

way that we all know them whether it's the old

toys or whether it's the old cartoon series it

is exactly how 80s children, we, remember them.

And they give us a very unique story to go along

with it. So we get Lionel, we get Thunder, Thunder,

Thundercats, Ho, and we figure out that Lionel

was the one narrating this issue. Yeah, at first

I was thinking it was Adam the entire time. Yeah.

I love that they don't release, I love that they

don't reveal who the narrator is until the very,

very end. I think that is such a cool storytelling

point, because you don't know, again, you don't

know. It keeps the mystery of the writing alive.

I love this final panel of this issue, this last

page with him holding the sword up, with the

thundercats coming in, with Skeletor and the

power sword. I love that. Now that I'm looking

at it, the feline is in the background. I think

it's the feline. Who was piloting it? Yeah, no,

that's not the feline, that's the thunder tank.

No, no, behind it, the plane. Oh, behind it,

the plane. Next to Chitara. Next to, oh, hmm.

Yeah, you're right, who is piloting that? That's

strange, maybe autopilot? Mean the main thundercats

the the royal ship had autopilot because jogging

never wanted to use the damn thing Yeah, so maybe

it is on autopilot. I Can hear the classic like

when they first when panthro first built the

thundertank in the cartoon series I can hear

the the thundertank music in my head right now

looking at this final page of the second issue

And just keep your hands off that blasted salmon

flange I know! What the fuck is a semiflange?

Alright, what are you thinking after the second

issue? Where are your thoughts lying? Are you

liking stuff? Are you disliking stuff? Are you

still wanting to read this if you're just reading

it? Now that we're getting more into the meat

of things with the Thundercats, it's grabbing

my attention more. I think as a whole, with the

Masters, it's... It's a little on the dull side

because we've gone through so many mini -series

and ongoings where the whole plot with Skeletor

is kind of the same. Yeah. So it just feels like

it's more of what we've seen in the past already.

Yeah. But then once Momra and the spirits kick

in. Oh yeah. i had to make sure because i was

doing screen cap stuff for this for how long

face book that all put in the post but uh...

when i was during during screen captures i had

to make sure i was labeling them the right issue

because i just read the i read this like they

were no issue breaks with them were no chapter

breaks like there were no titles for each one

because it just flowed so well together when

i read it so chapter three issue three where

Cover is Skeletor, uh, Super Purple Chest, uh,

with Lion -O and Panthero, Tiger, all the Thundercats

coming in. What do you think of this cover? Kick

his ass. Kick ass. Kick his ass, that's right.

This chapter is called Swords and Sorrows. I

don't like He -Man's face on this chapter thing.

The rest of the thing is fine. I don't like...

the way his face looks the artwork as a whole

is a little more basic and cartoony compared

to the other two yeah but like i just i don't

know it just looks like i'm not saying if if

it was colorized it would be better is it the

lack of a lack of pupils and a bridge of a nose

well that and just the way he's frowning like

i mean i get it he man frowns but i don't know

like the fact that cats in the armor like we

were not even seeing that yet so I'm not even

sure like what were the that's what I'd like

to ask Freddie Williams is what were the inspirations

what were the guidelines what were the directives

for these these title covers because battle cat

isn't in this at all well he is but not until

very late very much later So, we get, you know,

villains, heroes, battle eternal. Again, another,

like, full -on page. Absolutely love it. The

Thundercats are everywhere, Skeletor is basically,

you know, ass -ending them. Just absolutely amazing.

And... all of them have their weapons. Chitara's

got the staff, Lionel's obviously got the sword

and the claw, Panthero's got his nunchuck things,

Tigra's got his whip. This is gonna come up later,

and I'm pretty sure you're gonna be with me on

this. I don't like the quote -unquote new power

they gave Tigra. It's not a new... The whip can't

fit around the whole castle. Like... Don't know

what we'll talk about it when we get there. Yeah

So we have Lionel versus Skeletor the clash of

the power sword and the sword of omens. I love

that panel I Love that Skeletor basically beats

him up Because they're still going with the whole

Lionel's kind of inexperienced thing. He's still

as I think Skeletar calls him in this or mumra

calls in this little little Kingling or whatever

it is like he's not the true king yet And then

you have so after he kind of gets defeated you

have the whole team coming after them. I love

the designs on the team Panthero looks so good

So does Wile E. Kitten Wile E. Kat, Sheetara,

Tigra Well, this is somewhat early in the game

if we're putting in the timeline of the cartoon

series. I'm surprised they would have Wile E.

Kitten cat tag along at this point. Yeah. Like

I said, the way I see it is it's one year after

they landed. I don't know. A lot can happen within

a season of an animated series. So. So Chitara

tries to basically give him chickenpox. Yeah

wound Skeletor You know you got panthro basically

fighting him and I love I can so hear Earl Hyman

doing this He basically says bonehead. I've got

two things to say to you one two Well, look at

that I guess I had three things to say In the

in the cartoon series panthro's Banter with the

villains was always kind of cheesy and I'm glad

that it's It's carried into this. Yeah Because

again, like I said, I can hear Earl Hyman's voice

I can hear Mr. Huxtable Because, you know, obviously

he's Cliff's grandfather in the Cosby show. Or

not, Cliff's father in the Cosby show. But I

absolutely love that. I love how Snarf tries

to get in. Or should we put him out? So we have

basically Skeletor on fire. but he's fighting

back and we have all of these multiple moves

of him basically destroying all of the fun he

basically runs through everybody smacks chitara

around punches tiger punches panthro almost looks

like he throws the sword at panthro even though

the sword is on the on his back but just the

way that the so the way that the image is looking

the way the stance is for the character basically

looks like he's going to, you know, kill panthro

and uh, lino comes in with the sword of omens

and wow so good, feel my magic dark mage I can

so hear Larry Kenny saying that. I need to interview

him again. I ran into him once at a convention,

maybe about two years ago. Yeah, he signed my

DVD set. Oh, sweet. That's so cool. That's one

thing with Skeletor having the power sword that

I absolutely love. The fact that Lion -O has

the Sword of Omens. Obviously you get to see

the power sword and the Sword of Omens do battle

together without it having to be, you know, He

-Man and Lion -O. yeah that trope is a little

played out it still happens later but yeah so

this issue is very much a battle issue what are

you thinking to this point this is kinda like

the middle ground issue because it's the half

point of the six issue series well he gets cut

in the face pretty good yeah he does And given

the history with both of the swords, I'm surprised

that they both don't repel one another. Yeah,

you'd think they would. They even say later that

everything is pretty evenly matched. And then

Mum Ross starts showing up again. Sort of. And

Lionel's like, you've teamed with Mama to obtain

the power ever living? Question mark. Then perhaps

he should have told you. Never look in the mirror.

Yeah. Hey. Mistake number one. They're faithful

to that, even though it's the wrong mirror. I

know he used the sword a bunch of times, but

the first time he ever faced him, he used the

claw. Because he held the claw shield up to his

face. Right. My phone just farted, folks. Stop

eating at beans. I know, right? Now, as a thundercat

purist, what are you thinking of the mirror bit?

I mean, that's always been Mumra's downfall.

So to include it, or to not include it, would

be a disservice to him. Yep. Oh. Well, you want

to know who's piloting the feline, do you? Yeah.

It's Schnarf. Well, Schnarf was in the middle

of the battle, too. I know. But after the page

with Mumra, you fool! Look away! Flee! We see

the feline coming in and shooting stuff up, and

it's Schnarf in the pilot seat. I'm surprised

they trust him with that. I'm surprised Orko's

not standing right next to him or floating right

next to him, I should say. Oh, God help us if

they ever did a spin -off with the two of them.

Orko and Snarf. That would be so funny. Thundercat

sidekick characters roar. Just keep us away from

Snarfer. Uncle Snarf. Uncle Snarf! Ha! Oh my

God. that's hilarious and any mention of uh oh

god the the robo roberto's mexican chili because

apparently the uh the burbles are ethnic now

yeah oh boy So Skeletor is kind of un -mummified,

and Mumrah is kind of attacking him. He basically

three -stuages him, except it's not on the forehead,

obviously, it's right in the eyes. We have this

whole transformation. Now, what do you think

of this? This was freaky to me. The transforming,

or the beating of one another? Well, no, that's

just funny slapstick, but the whole transformation

thing of them basically becoming one being. What

I love about this is them trading insults. Yeah.

You decomposing dolt, I'll destroy you, says

Skeletor, with what army, jackass? I don't necessarily

like Mumra cursing, but... No, not at all. Imbasile.

Skeletor. Dumb run and the ever -drooling. Oh,

God. This is pointless, too. We're too evenly

matched. And they basically go to strike a deal.

As all villains do. What did you think of that

whole thing between the two of them? Later in

the series, Mamrod does become very incompetent

and becomes a bit of a bumbler, so to see that

kind of is in character. Yeah. Yeah, very true

So yeah, we go back to a turn house We get basically

the thundercats coming in and it's gonna crash

this funeral Yeah Hope this is an open bar. Oh

boy But yeah, you know giant he man coffin thing

with Prince Adam in it. Oh boy. It's like the

end of Revenge of the Sith all over again. Noooo!

Not really. Kinda sorta, but not really. I think

my favorite panel out of this whole scene other

than the giant, uh, funeral, like the giant coffin

scene that I just talked about is the one after

where Lionel comes up to King Randor. And Cringer

is at the bottom of the ca - like, of course

Cringer would never leave Adam's side, but it's,

you know. And of course we have the whole thing,

you know, Lionel's like, I understand he was

a great hero, oh I never knew, kind of a thing

from the King. You know, we have this whole thing

of, I'm truly not King yet, not like you, Sire.

I like this part of the story, I think it's interesting

that Lionel of who Lion -O is and... and all

of that getting advice from King Randor. Basically

Lion -O's father is gone, the planet of Thundera

is gone, Jaga is gone. Yes, he has the nobles,

he has his friends in Panthro and Tigra, Chitara,

Wily, Kit and Kat and all that, but actually

having Lion -O go to He -Man's dad, like, that

was really cool. So, you know, the end of this

issue is that, um... Your favorite catchphrase.

Which is? Grayskull's Bane! Yeah. Which is basically,

Ancient Spirits of Evil, let nothing stand in

your way. Bring us the power of Grayskull, so

commands Mumrah and Skeletor. And the Ancient

Spirits actually come to life. For once. once

so who will stand with me and slay the dragon

now I assume the sorceress has been narrating

this whole time because that's her symbol in

the in the final narration piece and that's her

right there I think we're gonna take a quick

break, folks. We'll get some other final thoughts

on this issue and start the fourth issue after

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all have the power. Hurry, Skeletor, hurry! I

am hurrying, I'm hurrying! Alright folks, we

are back and we've just finished up the third

issue of this mini -series, Thundercats, He -Man,

Thundercats. After this third issue, sir, what

are you thinking? I am very excited to see the

ancient spirits of evil ready to wreak havoc

upon Eternos. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna

be amazingly fun. And I believe you'll have to

remind me, because it's been a long time since

I've seen all of Thundercats. Did they ever come

to life in the cartoon series? No. I didn't think

so. But that's very cool. This by far is my favorite

cover, I think. He -Man vs. Lion -O. Lino's eyes

are very, very wide in this. Yeah. It's like,

hey man, my eyes are very wide because I'm really

only 12 years old inside and I can't stop looking

at your loin cloth. Oops! All the better to see

you with. My cat. My puss. Grab that puss. Oh

god. The less we hear about your puss, the better.

Making thundercats great again. Thundercats roar,

making Thundercats great again. And this is the

point in the recording, folks, where Adas Baron

basically hangs up on me. Good night, everyone.

Good night. Good bye, Skeletor. So we start the

fourth issue with more fighting, obviously, because

we're in the middle of the battle. And we've

got all these people fleeing and running in man

-at -arms everybody trying to help save them

Mumra and Skeletor do eventually team up and

all of that the spirit of Mumra and The ancient

spirits of evil are fighting everybody I Mean,

it's basically an all drag -out Godzilla battle.

Yeah pretty much we go to Thundercat camp or

Eternos camp or whatever basically Lionel man

-in -arms panther on tiger here Man says we're

going to need every able body to repel these

monsters. Whatever. They are you have you ever

handled one of these beauties Hey, nothing so

primitive says pan throw you might want to consider

scaling your oscillator to boost your force pattern

output Boy they got to insert drama somewhere

folks, right? Of course. Like... And then enter

Teala. Mhm. And Chitara. Mhm. Catfight. Get out

of my head. I was just about to say that. Oh

lord. Um... You know, Lino basically tells Randor

we, Thundercats, pledge to stand by Eternia.

And all of that, um... Slythe who's being taken

away basically says you cannot defeat him once

and for all he is always he always comes back

restored resurrected ever -living shut it and

move at you it's one of the guards tells him

so this gives Lionel an idea so Lionel Takes

He -Man's or Prince Adam's corpse with the sword

To third earth. Did you think this would is this

where you expected this to go? No Me either,

but I love that they did this Because basically

now you have He -Man Thundercats and Batman The

reason why I say this is because Mumra's sarcophagus

is essentially just like the Lazarus pit with

Ra's al Ghul. Yeah, it is. So... I mean, it would

make sense because the pyramid's completely unguarded

at this point. Yeah, kind of. And I love that

Cringer said, this is all my fault and your fault.

He'd still be alive if I could have battled,

if I was there, but I wasn't really there. Cringer,

you couldn't have. Do you really think this will

work, King Lino? It's a long shot, I know. But

if Mumrah can use the twisted energies of this

place to restore himself time and time again,

perhaps we can use those very same energies to

restore your He -Man. So they stuff the dead

body in the sarcophagus, and nothing happens,

and nothing happens, and then BOOM! Energy! We

get to the point where I said that I wasn't sure

how you were gonna feel about this There's definitely

someone else here Cringer. I'll stand guard over

Adam you go investigate. That's a wonderful plan,

but Cringer We both know that you are you that

you at heart are a true hero You're also a cat

like me and my people. I uh what? This is the

Eye of Thundera, the source of my people's power.

Let us see if Thundera's Eye can unleash the

hero inside you. Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats,

ho! Just on this last page, with him pointing

the sword at him, and it's not the Power Sword,

it's the Sword of Omens. What are you thinking?

Well, they had the Power Sword on the coffin,

and I felt like... Lion oh is worthy enough to

wield the power sword and he could have easily

Transformed cringer with that. Yeah Yeah So the

mutants and the evil warriors are looting and

plundering Mumra's pyramid and then a giant thunder

battle cat shows up Can tell you have thoughts

Yeah, just no It kind of looks okay sure it's

not classic battle cat it's it's you know mutant

kind of battle cat looking thing with gold and

yellow and Red and green and all that but like

maybe give him some thundercat motif armor Yeah,

just don't turn him into a cat person. Yeah Mean

I understand why they did it but I Don't know

So the sarcophagus gets blown open he man escapes

with the power sword and He basically goes and

tries to destroy lino and he's in it, you know

maddening rage and Basically yeah exactly except

you know Mumrah didn't break Adam's back or hit

him with a crowbar you know that would have been

funny but no Mumrah's not you know that old school

I guess you could say so the one thing I think

one of the coolest panels here even though it's

a little strange is the panel where Lion -O and

He -Man are facing off against each other. He

-Man looks like a giant dolt because Lion -O

basically takes the Sword of Omens and hits him

upside the head with it. I'm sorry for that,

He -Man, but there looks like there's blood coming

off the Eye of Thundera. I get it. They're in

a bloody battle. I get it. Their blood is spilling

everywhere, but it just doesn't make the sword

look powerful at all. I took it more as like

dark energy Because in the page prior to it if

he's jumping at him and the sword is covered

in it mmm Yeah, that's true. Maybe So they have

that and then Lionel gets an idea basically,

you know You know take his sword away Give him

the the sword of omens and sight beyond sight

You know Very very cool You know and of course

before that happens line I was like if I'm ever

to face this if I'm ever not necessarily defeat

you but you know match you Sword of omens give

me power beyond power. I call bullshit on this

swapping other lines? No, not the lines, but

the fact that he can say something like this

and it actually were like... Sight beyond sight

sure fine. Yes, the sort of moments is all powerful

and everything else, but I'm not saying it has

to be faithful to the cartoon because this is

his own individual story, but this just is a

little strange to me. Like is he calling upon

Sundarian power or is he calling upon Eternian

power? That's why it's strange to me because

we don't know so we have this giant fight with

the two of them and eventually like I said Lionel

puts the the eyelets up to Adam he man's face

give me sight beyond sight and basically He -Man

sees a future that he does not want to be a part

of. Basically Skeletor and Mumrah partying at

Castle Grayskull. With everybody else kind of

in, uh, ooh, hey, look, it's a Horde Trooper

robot. I did not notice that at first. It's dead

center of the page, right to the middle of where,

um, where Man -at -Arms is hanging off to the

left. Right next to, like, Chitara's back. Wow,

I did not - that's cool! Obviously the sorceress

is, you know, slumped over. Yeah, there's a morbid

shot next to her of Snarf's head on a pike. Wait,

where? Chitara or sorceress? Sorceress. Oh yeah,

wow! Chitara, uh, not Chitara, um, Snarf and

Roboto? Yeah, and then, um, Manny faces above

them. Oh wow. Damn. Okay, I'm taking it a little

too far thundercats and Masters of the universe

on the body So he man's like no You know, I'd

hope that would break you through the madness

I must cut you down he man he man the sword of

omens will not let me strike you Wow, the madness

that has passed you've come back So they're friends

again Yay, not that they were friends in the

first part, but you know And hey look Cringers

back to his normal self. Thank God So this one

ends with Castle Grayskull the black driven and

with my brave resourceful new ally at my side

I know we have the power I Am digging this whole

story Like every which way I think they're gonna

turn they don't and they go in a different direction

that I absolutely love When there are moments

here and there which you know I clearly have

expressed not being a fan of but yeah the whole

thing I'm digging Yeah, I Don't necessarily know

if I can go back and read this every once in

a while like every Maybe one or two years in

between or whatever But this is a story that

if I want like a really excellent he okay? Most

team and stories aren't excellent, but most whatever

You know this is a story I can go back to and

read over and over and over again If I really

wanted to if I really needed that he manned thundercats

kind of fix. This is where I'm going So issue

five the fall of greyskull has Tigra on the black

and white has Mumrah and Skeletor on the main

cover with greyskull in the center We start off

with the enemy is upon us they have destroyed

our homes our glorious city and still they come

They desecrate our land and decimate our brave

and still they come Because attorney in house

attorney a houses houses power beyond compare

but to them We say the power will never be yours

Castle Grayskull will not fall I Love this shot.

This is another one of those super you got the

The Wind Raiders in here, you got Wile E. Kitten

Cat on their Thunder Surf boards, you've got

the Ancient Spirits of Evil, you've got Orko

doing his thing, King Orando on this giant Star

Wars looking animal. Yeah. It's just everybody.

You got the Thunder Tank with the cannon, the

Eternium Blaster Core, all of that. So What are

you thinking? What are you liking? What are you

disliking here? It seems like the ancient spirits

have gotten even bigger They have so how the

hell are they gonna fend them off I don't know

have no idea something about getting a clean

shot firing at will I do love this little shot

of all the sky sleds because I've always been

a fan of the sky sled more like the wind Raider

is cool but I've always been a fan of the sky

sled more than the wind Raider you got Chitara

and Tila working together kind of sort of not

really but it works And of course, as soon as

Tila says, I hate stray cats, all I can think

of is stray cat strut. That's all I can think

of. So the two girls save each other and all

that. Mumra and Skeletor are basically doing

their thing. Orko shrinks Wile E. Kitten Cat's

heads. That's not really helping orko come on

What I love is after that panel we get a shot

classic shot of gray skull It looks so good Freddy

did such a good job Jeremy did such a good job

on the colors Where sorceress says power of gray

skull I call upon you now I love that shot Yeah,

not too green that it looks overly cartoony,

but just enough gray that it looks decrepit.

Mm -hmm. Yep So sorceress basically says rise

up and shield your fortress of mystery and power

from those that would trespass upon the sacred

ground Hopefully you won't consider me less a

trespasser And your favorite guy shows up and

more of an ally. By the elders, who are you and

how? I am called Jaga, Lady Sorceress. Okay,

so he's now appeared to everybody at this point.

It's like Spider -Man taking off his mask. Everybody

sees it. Yeah, but it makes sense though. I understand

what you're saying, the other Thundergats never

really saw Jaga. but him showing himself to the

sorceress. Oh yeah, it makes sense. For the story,

it absolutely makes sense, and I have no issue

with it, because how often do you see the sorceress

and Jaga? Never. This is like probably the first

time ever. Plus, I would imagine she would have

the powers to see him anyway. Yeah, absolutely.

Arko, you magical menace! They just need to send

him to a dungeon whenever there's a battle going

on Just lock him up pretty much. Yeah So they're

gonna fire the cannon again, and it's it's a

hit and it doesn't really work though So there's

that there's more battle hey look ran man's going

through the sky there Skeletor and Mumrah. Skeletor,

I have no idea. A castle can't just up and disappear.

Okay, this is it. Is he alright? Tiger has the

ability to cast illusions, but he's never done

anything on this scale before, so he's made Castle

Grayskull vanish? It's still here. Just looks

like it isn't. He's never had the power to cast

illusions. Um, he has mind powers. Okay. They

brought that out more so in the anointment trial

episodes. Okay. And with his whip he's able to

turn himself invisible. Yes, I knew that. I knew

the whip thing, the invisibility thing with the

whip. I... Did not remember the the anointment

like again I have to go back and rewatch the

series because it's been At least four or five

years since I did a watching of thundercats the

original series so Yeah, I Don't know it's a

little weird, but it works I guess So they have

to go back in time, and they found this thing

before thundera was destroyed Which basically

is gonna destroy the ancient spirits I Don't

know it's it's all very the Mormon discs of knowledge

Yeah, the the discs discs of knowledge I love

how every at least Buzz off and Stratos for and

Rino's for avion like they're all fighting for

their own parts of Eternia, which is great Of

her of course they both kind of you know get

destroyed kind of sorta The fact that buzz off

looks almost the same size as Wiley Yeah, Wiley

kit is a little strange. Yeah, I think it's just

a weird perspective. It might be, because obviously

Stratos looks bigger than, you know, Wily Cat.

Lasers aren't cutting it. They have to do something

else. And that's when Sheetara and Tila go into

action, and even Orko tries to get out on the

action, which he shouldn't. Never. Like, no.

Like and what is snarf doing there? He's growing

to enormous sizes Mm -hmm, which isn't the first

time this has happened. No, it isn't which it's

a nice homage It is a very nice homage I Love

the panel later where Skeletor and Mumra ancient

spirits of evil in your final dying thrashes

release the terrible power that resides in your

ashes okay i could do without the rhyming but

let the wickedness flow black as hell from you

four give all your dark might to mum ator yeah

jesus no no That's the one thing about this that,

at this point, that I don't like. Mummator, really.

I love the design of the character. I love it

that it's, you know, Mum -Ra, Skeletor combined.

But, no. Just no. Um, and that's how issue five

ends. As I said throughout this whole recording,

I love the art. The writing at points is very

well done and other points it just like this

point here mama tour Like that's the name They

could they didn't need to name it at all. Yeah,

no No, they shouldn't have But they did Thoughts

on the penultimate issue here, I mean his design

isn't bad I could see it as a toy yeah i don't

see the need to uh grow snarf many times over

again no no because he's not really doing anything

no snarf and orca are never are not really doing

anything at all other than getting in the way

at this point So, issue 6, across the universe,

main cover, He -Man and Lion -O facing each other

with the swords, Skeletor with Mumrah or Mumrah

inside Skeletor or however you want to say it

without saying Mummator, because I'm not going

to say that again after just saying that now.

He's in the background here, love that cover.

Chitara is on the black and white for across

the universe. And, you know, how does it feel,

do you suppose, to race to the rescue? And, yay,

we finally have Battlecat in his true form. About

time. About time. We have a nice thing where,

you know, He -Man is coming to Randor's aid.

You know, he's alive, barely. You know I need

to head inside You know watch over them cat I

will not fail you he man so they go inside gray

skull they go through all these caverns and tunnels

and whatever and they get to The orb of power

which is what Skeletor and Mumrah have been searching

for this whole time The orb of power is basically

like the time stone I guess or the reality stone

or whatever I would assume because I Don't remember

if I'm pretty sure like the power of grayscale

is never really revealed ever Like it is like

I think in the 2002 series the cartoon the Cartoon

Network series they kind of did have a specific

piece of power source there but most of the time

it's never ever revealed and new adventures does

not count because it just doesn't um any thoughts

on this whole thing to this point where lino's

uh trying to get the orb of power out of skeletor

mumra's hands the backgrounds are very like doctor

strange -ish yeah they are a very dark dimension

yeah i mean i would kind of expect that because

they're inside greyskull and greyskull is this

you know infinite place of you know power and

mystery kind of a thing but i don't know they

even say it in the dialogue the nexus of all

realities gateway to other realms and other dimensions

yeah And this is, you know, so He -Man starts

talking to the sorceress, the real sorceress.

She says, you must stop them, stop them, stop

them. We will, I swear. As he and Lionel are

running out. You were talking to her, weren't

you? Note to self, talking to an invisible person

makes you look crazy. You think so, Lionel? I

mean, come on. But that was the callback I was

saying earlier About the whole Jaga thing So

this reality will never come to pass you under

underestimate the scope of our vision our will

and our power He throws the cannon at them He

man's got the orb they're trying to get away

and they end up on earth the date wow they did

they really get the whole name in there does

that really say daily planet it's kind of faded

at the beginning it looks like a a ILY and then

obviously planet is the one whole word and it's

Adam as don't know a Clark Kent ish wannabe yeah

like great photos Jim hey attorney of ill oh

my god this is the one scene that I'm just like

like I get it he man Superman all that everything

else don't get me wrong I think that's cool but

the fact that you know list looks like a job

for he rips it off and that's oh my god i'm dying

over here well i like the the reaction lino is

uh is it just me or is this kind of yeah let's

get out of here yeah exactly concentrate on eternia

oh they go to eternia all right they go to eternia

with um with panthro cat or whatever panthro

at arms yeah um so they should yeah and hey look

a snarfo the most obnoxious being in the universe

or i'll spell them in the next week snarfo oh

my god it actually is snarfo yeah i i remember

reading that when i read this but I just said

that because that's the only thing I can think

of that you know to mix the two characters because

you're not gonna call them orc snarf or whatever

it's your schnerf oh schnerf I'm like oh my god

they really did call him that wow and I love

you man Lino maybe holding the orb together wasn't

such a good idea question mark not good at all

there is nowhere you can run that mum Ra will

not, cannot follow. The orb of power will be

ours. Protect castle, castle cat skull. Jesus

Christ. Oh my god, no. It's the Amalgam universe

all over again. Yeah, it is. It is. It's crazy.

So more fighting between these two, um, and...

He -Man and Lion -O eventually get the, uh, you

know, know they have the sword, I have the orb,

they'll bring the sword back to us, we just need

to be... Lion -O? Lion -O, what is it? Ghosts.

And we see the original boarding of the Thundair,

like, this I love. The only thing I don't love

about this is King Claudus does not need blonde

hair. Try I think he did in the original series

did he in the 2011 he was a redhead. He was a

redhead Yeah, I remember that cuz Larry Kinney

voiced him so jogger and and Claude us have a

moment and You know that was my father he man

we travel through dimensions line of space and

time dimensions of possibility probability and

apparently of the past We are there you are Are

we is this thunder gods how we've I've we've

always despised this rock So they eventually

get to the point where they realize they too

have to become one God cue the spice girls. Oh

my god So Skeletor and mum rah have the orb Let's

see The sorceress indeed. Why would you stand

and fight your own battles you cowardly conniving

cretin? But he man and Lionel will not fight

alone To do it needs to be done will handle these

animals and again another great crowd shot battle

scene There's so much in this and this is why

I love Freddy's art These giant scenes you'd

think putting all these characters together would

be a nightmare And it probably was getting this

drawn and colored and inked and all that but

look at this final product Yeah, I'm noticing

all of the The callbacks to certain Thundercat

characters like B and C list characters. Yeah,

I can see hammer hand in the background I'm always

appreciative of seeing hammer hand. Absolutely

the warrior maidens and what about robo rover

bill or robo whatever robear burbles oh i see

them oh do you where they're behind orco oh well

of course they're behind orco why wouldn't they

be oh my god that's oh wow yeah that's hilarious

um so yeah basically everybody else is gonna

take care of all of it The army is that stridor?

Oh my god Yeah, they showed up like any shot

with Fisto. They've shown him with him. Okay

Wow And yeah, like I said earlier Lion oh and

he man Realized that they have to basically join

forces because You know he man's power is draining

pretty much So they have the swords and I love

I love this The whole panel the two swords in

the upper left hand corner. We have the power

beyond power. What are you doing? So we didn't

blow ourselves up that's a lot of blood gushing

from Lionel there. Um... which in the... That

we have the power beyond cup. Oh yeah. Yeah,

it's coming out of his leg, I think. Or his side

or something. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, because

it's coming out of... Skeletor, Mumra, whatever,

yeah. That's the thing, like... There's a lot

of blood in this series. Like, I would not be

giving - I would not be having kids read this.

This is specifically a series for us that grew

up with these two franchises. Oh yeah. Mm -hmm.

Um, so everybody, you know, s - you know, saves

the day. For you, schnarchnackies. Cringer cookies.

I'm like, wow, that's just hilarious. And we

have this narration that's going through it,

um... We have lino and the thundercats getting

ready to go And the the narration is mumra lives

Of course thundercats ho by the power of grayskull

The end question mark question mark question

mark. Yeah, probably I don't know when If they're

ever like like I said at the beginning of the

podcast folks They're going to be starting to

do, uh, injustice versus moat two. I don't know

when if they're ever going to revisit this. I

want them to. And man in arms is holding, um,

Panthers nunchucks. What's up with that? They

gave each other something. Remember? In the,

in the earlier scene when I said something about

the cookies, they, they each gave one another

something to remember them by. I'm sure Panther

has plenty of those lying around somewhere. I'm

sure of it. I love the fact that the Thundercats

symbol, the insignia, is in the sky. The feline

are blasting off again! This series was like...

There were moments when I was reading this I

haven't done this while Going through and dissecting

this as we're talking about it and things But

there were several moments in this that I can

point out to that I would have to go back to

and find the specific moments where I Actually

cried in this series. I'm not kidding. This is

a 80s child's dream would come true Everybody

always talks about you know how they grew up

on Batman comics, and that's great. Absolutely

great I only read comics here or there as a kid.

I was not reading comics all of the time as a

kid. I was watching cartoons. I was going out,

playing with my friends, make, you know, pretending.

I'm not going to use the term live action roleplay

because we didn't use that. There was no LARPing

in the eighties. At least not in my neighborhood.

We called it pretend or make believe or whatever,

you know. Pretending that we're He -Man or Lion

-O or Optimus Prime or Duke from G .I. Joe or

Flint or whatever like This series basically

brought me back to 1985 and Like I said earlier,

maybe not you know Every other day every other

month, but maybe every one or two years. I can

go back to this series Read it with fresh eyes

Just absolutely enjoy it like I was wasn't skeptical

of this But I was excited for it And I was wondering

what they were gonna do with it the fact that

I read this comic in 45 minutes six issues in

45 minutes You know if you look at it single

issue wise That's good for me because it means

I enjoyed it a lot, and I didn't need to take

a break from it at all What are your thoughts

overall on this thing? With a lot of these crossovers,

I feel like they're kind of unnecessary But this

is one that people have been clamoring for years

and it worked It's so worked It's so did I meant

there are other ones that just seemed totally

unnecessary. What was it like Power Rangers and

Justice League? Thank God Kyle Higgins is doing

so well with Power Rangers right now Yeah, I've

heard nothing but good things about it. Oh, yeah,

it's so good like it took me Four days to read

the entire series to prepare for shattered good

But but now he meant thundercats folks go get

it go pick it up I don't know if the local comic

shops still carry a couple copies of it or not.

My shop, my local shop, I looked for it. They

didn't have it. I'm sure they could order it

for you. You can get it digitally on Comixology

or wherever you buy digital comics. Rob David

and Larry Goldfein did an amazing job on the

writing. Freddie Williams II, Freddie E. Williams

II, amazing art. I love his art. I know we said

and you said more specifically than I did about

being there being a little bit too much blood

and gore a little bit in certain panels and certain

scenes, but Most of comics, you know, oh you

kill a character. They're not gonna come back

or you kill a character They're gonna come back

in this I was not expecting Lionel to take Adam

to The Black Pyramid. I was not I just exposed

well Adams dead he means gone. Bye. Bye But the

fact that they were able to do the whole Time

travel time and space thing and whatever police

box whatever the hell you want to call it and

basically go from you know, Eternia to Third

Earth and all of that again, you know third Earth

was Marlena's home, you know Earth was Marlena's

home. So it makes sense that we would see, you

know, Adam slash He -Man on Earth as well. Outside

of a couple of things that I can kind of overlook,

I think I have to give this a four and a half

out of five. I think I would agree with you.

Yeah. It's just too good. It's just... like yeah

does the thing have issues it has slight little

issues it's nothing that isn't like there is

a little bit of cheesiness in the dialogue but

hello you're you're combining two properties

that started in 83 and 85 most of the cartoons

in the 80s were cheesy so you know i don't know

Alright folks coming up next here inside the

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to look What have you got going on sir? What

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a lot of the gem gem and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

comics. I can tell you that okay But I with along

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