IDW Back to the Future Volume 3: Who is Marty McFly? Review

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coverage with a discussion on volume 3 as we

ask the question, who is Marty McFly? This is

the third story arc in the series as it kicks

off with learning all about needles so join us

won't you as we talk about this trade from IDW.

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there was that Nickelback song million miles

an hour, but anyway Everyone hates that band

apparently So yes volume three who is Marty McFly

I thought the premise of this was just great

I Think it's a good idea. I think it's something

that they haven't done yet kind of in the movies

or in any of the comics we've read so far as

far as somebody questioning their own identity

and If there's multiple versions of them out

there etc etc And this kicks off with, as I said

earlier, kicks off with the origin of Douglas

Needles. It was kind of interesting. I like that

they throw a line in there right away that one

of the people in the comic says. It's kind of

speaking to us as well. So as a nice little end

message, they say you got to start somewhere

if you want to get places. It was like, well,

we got to start with this if we want to understand

fully where we're going to be going eventually.

It was a little... Jarring to me when they go

from the needle story to the rest of it, right?

Like it was a jarring change in directions kind

of going from the first issue to the second issue

Yeah, like this all like issue 12 in volume 3

should have been Issue 12 should should have

been in volume 2 I think maybe or something like

is this picks up during like the this part of

the beginning part of the story before they do

the flashback in issue twelve in volume three

is where they should have it picks up where right

after words that uh... jennifer basically runs

him off the road any you know slams into an egg

crater a trucker is getting all over his face

so that's where this or something in between

that and when we're gonna go full on with the

marty story that i had to write a weird change

of gears yeah uh... in between there Don't know.

There's also a weird. There's a couple different

places in this volume that I have not noticed

in the other Comics that we've covered that the

writing is weird in a couple pages, and I don't

know how I'm supposed to read it I'll give you

an example from this one, but I don't think I've

come across that in Any of the other volumes

that we've been talking about it's on if you're

viewing the trade I guess the combined version.

It's on page 34 okay, I believe Yeah and the

bottom here so we have a discussion going on

between Marty and his dad All right, and his

dad says it's I'm gonna read exactly what is

written in the bubbles It says it's normal to

feel that way you are asking about feeling confident

You're not going to believe this Marty, but time

was your old man was something of a wimp Yeah

That doesn't make any sense written that way

it could be a Mistake there there are times that

the script from scripts to bubbling sometimes

things get Not put in gotcha. So is I don't think

it's necessarily John or Bob's John Barber or

Bob Gale's writing I think maybe what I mean

it on what you're transcribing it into the bubble

They couldn't have it say but there was a time

when your old man exactly yeah but it just says

but time was yeah what is that supposed to say

yeah and then just being getting my piggy parts

out of the way first on page 30 if you're viewing

it the same way the last frame marty and and

um and jennifer are having a conversation at

the diner And she's kind of getting mad because

he's asking questions and she's questioning whether

he remembers her how they met and things like

that, et cetera, et cetera. In the last frame,

she says, you don't remember how we met. Marty

has no face. Yeah. I don't know if that's supposed

to be some type of like a distinctive choice

for like emotions like he's got a like he's speechless

or something like that, but he literally has

no nose. Yeah. Again, I think that's an artist

rendition. Just to run down the creative on this

really quickly. Story by John Barber and Bob

Gale. Script by Barber. Art by Emma Viseli. Those,

specifically you, who may not know Emma Viseli,

she did an Arc of the Gem comic. I think she

did... was it... volume 2's arc anyway she did

an arc of the of the idw gem series and that

art was really cool but yeah her style is slightly

different than what we've seen so far uh... and

really outside of that though i mean outside

of that specific one where he has no face and

she arrived here but the face i thought the art

in this one overall was way more consistent than

what we've got an absolutely yeah no it absolutely

is that's a little bit of a research is the same

person throughout the whole that yup exactly

uh... shaw leon letters uh... series that is

done by tom waltz who also writes uh... uh...

friday w with the team t uh... book series uh...

and then you know colors pretty much on all of

it is done by jose lewis rio uh... except for

part one who is done by esther's so goreiro i'm

probably butchering the hell out of that name

but i'm sorry so yeah that's the creative uh...

once again a letter from bob gale basically just

kind of saying the the inspiration for the story

and the you know the thought of how it came about

things like that which is very cool And then,

as I said earlier, we dive into the whole origin

of needles. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting

way to start. Like I said, it does pick up fairly

well from where the last one ended. And we haven't

got a lot on needles before, so it is interesting

to kind of see needles. younger version of himself,

etc. It's a character that hasn't been explored

as much as a lot of the other ones, so... Well,

you know, if you're like us, and you've spent

the last 30 plus years of your life being a fan

of the films, or a fan of the animated series,

or whatever, specifically a fan of the films,

the three films, Needles was basically Marty's

version of Biff, okay? He was his bully kind

of a thing and Needles was only ever shown in

various scenes. He wasn't ever really given because

there's no The movies aren't about needles the

movies are about Marty the movies are about doc

so Taking the time here to tell this story is

what I appreciate for these creators and again

specifically Bob Gale because You've got a guy

who worked on the movie who can, you know, bring

these ideas to life and all of that and it's

just, it's so well done. It really is. And it's

one of those... Needles as a child seemed like

he was bipolar. Yeah. Like it seems like you're

dealing with two different people because he's

like all quiet and nice and then he is all like...

I know they explain why and kind of get into

the meaning behind how he acts why he does but

Yeah, it was like every other frame. You didn't

know if you were getting like the nice needles

or this crazy one. Mm -hmm But yeah, I appreciate

that they kind of spent some time looking at

one of these more Overlooked characters, maybe

I guess you could say yeah So obviously he's

introduced as the new kid at school Marty is

tasked with showing him around kind of the typical

trope there of the new kid and getting paired

up with somebody right and That goes not so well

Not so well first day needles pukes on him Yeah,

you I've never even heard of that or seen that

of somebody actually puking like not not Like,

maybe on your feet or something of that nature.

He literally pukes on his outstretched arms.

Like, into his hands. It's gross. I don't want

to assume this, but I'm going to. I assume he

did that on purpose. Like, we see him cough in

the very beginning when the teacher's first introducing

him, but like... Know where the heck that was

gonna lean then all of a sudden as soon as Marty

stretches out You know not you know nice to meet

you. You know I'll be glad to show you you're

not glad, but you know I'll show you around and

then Right okay, so is that is he have a cold

is he sick or did he just do that on purpose?

Is he nervous from the first day jitters or what's

going on? But I mean I've had first day jitters

on stuff folks, but I've never in school specifically

I've been to very, I had been to very, I have

been to a lot of very different schools over

my young educated life and I never puked on the

first day at any of them. No, no, not at all.

And then of course we have Needles who then tries

to make it look like Marty Pete himself. Yeah.

So that's where we get the first switch. So he's

he's like, oh, I'm nervous. I'm upset. I'm throwing

up and then I'm going to make a joke out of it

and make it look like you peed on your pants.

Yeah. And obviously he has a decent reason for

saying that because he wanted to shift attention

away from him and not be known as the kid that

puked on the first day and make Marty be known

as the kid who peed himself. But but I mean,

he puked right in the middle of the hallway.

So there was more than one person that saw that.

It wasn't like he puked in the bathroom. I don't

think yeah. No he puked in the hallway Yeah,

so that was kind of interesting and then they

go on a trip to Marty's music store Yeah And

then he shows shows needles the guitar that he

wants and they talk a little bit about his band

and then stuff like that And then of course needles

does the flip again So he was with him being

nice going, you know talking to him and learning

more about him Marty decided to take him with

him And now all of a sudden needles buys his

guitar out from under him. Yeah and he's like

Marty's like you need an amp for an electric

guitar. Oh, yeah, right. I forgot to bring it

Like I Don't think it's bipolar Think it's just

It's almost like psychotic. It's like yeah, that's

that's what it is because like he It's like he's

planting seeds for the future or something or

whatever where it's like He'll be all calm and

whatever and then he'll get an idea to one up

Marty and this is This is really looking at Needles

and Marty's quote -unquote friendship, relationship,

character, relationship, whatever you want to

call it, from a slightly different aspect because

in the movies Needles always gets the one -up

and now it's kind of like Marty doesn't get a

one -up here at all like because Marty's a better

person like he's not gonna go for that revenge

stuff. Right. You know, but... Feel like the

difference was during this time period. It seems

like Marty was more Accepted he was more in the

in crowd. Yeah needles was the outsider whereas

when we see them interact later on You know needles

is always the more intimidating the more He has

more group of friends around him etc. Whereas

Marty is always kind of off on his own Yeah,

it's a little bit of a different dynamic and

and needles does a number of different things

here to kind of display that Tendency that's

coming up later, you know, he takes buys a guitar

out from under him He tries to take over his

band by having them all come over to his nice

house. Yeah Does the whole trying to egg Doc

Brown's house? Yeah, so you kind of get that

mischief that rebellious part of needles right

out of the gate Yeah, absolutely and of course

Marty's friends are like oh my god look at all

the stuff He had you know just like anybody would

be you know right and the needles goes and says

something You know like the Douglas needles in

the hot sauce and one of Marty's friends just

looks at him Marty and he's like I know Yeah,

his friends are not into it I mean they they

have all the stuff and whatnot, but they're not

they don't like needles right off the bat So

Marty's actually the one standing up for him

But then of course needles over here is a discussion

that they're talking about not liking him etc.

So that kind of pushes him over the edge We get

the final we get the point where needles takes

his hat off And he doesn't have the long hair

anymore like he had throughout the rest of it.

He's got the the mohawk thing going So that's

kind of where we see the true needles show up

for the first time. And just a couple more bounces

back and forth. They're talking like they're

going to be nice again, et cetera, et cetera.

Marty's saying, hey, I think they're overreacting,

et cetera, et cetera. And then needles immediately

makes it look like they're fighting in front

of a big group. So it's just going back and forth.

And then we go right back to. Needles as the

adults in 1986 or the teenage or whatever you

want to call it. Yeah Being questioned by the

police, of course So That's interesting and then

it it's kind of weird because it flashes back

to that then it goes right back to Marty practicing

with the band again and this is where I think

it was the jarring kind of like this last little

bit because he's practicing with the band and

then he's talking in the future with jennifer

again and it's just like i don't know it was

it was a weird transition there yeah there are

times like when it when it transitions from like

the scene with marty and his parents in the future

when what is it his dad or his mom says you know

kids like what is it that she says this is after

now this is before they have the fight This is

before Doug hears all the stuff that they kind

of go back and forth with it. I have a sick sense

when it comes to kids who are no good. Some kids

are just bad seizes. Dad says, anyway Marty,

I don't want you spending too much time with

Doug kind of a thing. It's not necessarily the

future, it's still the past, because it's still

Marty at that age, and then it's kind of like

a next day kind of a thing. And that's where

you were saying, but he was sticking up for needles,

like giving him the benefit of the doubt, and

then they're at school again. That's where we

have the whole Mohawk thing come in. And it goes

back to... Like you said the the present day

with needles on the phone like he's like copper

I get my one phone call your parents You know

your mom's out of town and Lord knows where your

dad is these days All right, and that's one thing

we should talk about young needles brought up

the fact of His parents are divorced and because

of that they the way they fight over him is they

basically buy him everything that he wants Or

you know that they basically buy his love essentially

And it seems like needles is one of the very

very Many latchkey kids of the 80s because it

seems like like I didn't see his parents either

one of his parents whether They're divorced or

not didn't see them at the house at all and you

know during that scene like it was just him at

his house, right? So then it's kind of going

into this thing when they go they flash back

to the band and Marty's talking with the band

and Jennifer etc. And that's kind of where it

goes back to the conversation that he's having

in 1986 with Jennifer about remembering the first

time You know, how they met and some of their

childhood, et cetera. So it's kind of them living

that in the past and them talking about it in

the future. And then it kind of goes into the

series of pages where Marty is questioning his

memories and what he's lived versus other Marty's

have lived. Yeah, because the yeah, you're splitting

them up. But yeah, because. The end of needles

is, you know, because all you ever been is a

chicken. Once I'm out, you better watch your

back needles. You've been playing the same note

way too long. It's time to get a new haircut.

No hard feelings. The issue that the needles

issue ends there and we get into who is Marty

McFly part one. Right. So this yeah. So I don't

like. As soon as I s - at the end of an issue,

as soon as I see, like, an alternate cover, I'm

like, oh, okay, that's the end. That means that

a new issue is starting. So... I didn't see it

as two... stories that were intertwining. Like,

it's - like, Who Is Marty McFly Parts 1 starts

with the band stuff. So it's the - it's the Marty

McFly story now. It's not the Needle story anymore.

Yeah, but it's still put together in a book form

where they're all supposed to somewhat go together

like yeah, so that's what it was just it's and

that's It was a combination of that, but it's

also a combination of like the first I don't

know like eight or nine pages of the second of

this first volume of who is Marty McFly? Because

he's bouncing all over the place like he's talking

to Jennifer then he's talking to his parents

then he's talking to the priest and then like

it was just a bunch of like weird and Yeah, and

it was weird to have that whole needles thing

and then have nothing to do with that for me

So that was kind of just the big difference there

was it's it's put together as one entity Even

if they were released in different, you know

issues or volumes or whatever, you know So it

was just a little bit strange there But it is

now we get into the crux of you know Marty dealing

with Alternate Marty's and trying to come to

terms with that in his head And that's kind of

an interesting aspect that we've never seen really

talked about so much. Yeah, absolutely. And Emma

Viseli did that perfectly. Once we get to the

alternate Marty's later, like after, you know,

I think it's after the second part of the third

part of the story here. Like the third or fourth

issue here. You know, she drew each individual

Marty like he specifically goes and says, hey,

you're from this time or you're from that time

or you're from a timeline where My hand did get

injured and I never got to play guitar kind of

a thing, right? The whole church thing was a

little weird. Yeah, you're right. Like I'm looking

back at it now like Because we've never known

Marty or his parents To be like loyal short churchgoers.

That was never a part of I'm not saying it can't

be I'm just saying We don't know that part of

their history because in the movies and everything

else we've seen to this point that they've never

been to church until that he needed the advice

about you know the the multiple destiny kind

of a thing Yeah, that's true. I mean, but it

adds a great line that I love probably one of

my favorite parts of this he's like perfect doc

and i are going to hell because the the priest

there or the pastor whatever you want to call

it basically makes a comment about um that it

would that it would be not condoned you know

that type of thing and so he he translates that

into doc and him are going to hell i thought

that was funny And right before that whole scene

there's also a very interesting or cool little

thing that they do with the pictures where he's

going back through like a scrapbook of photographs

and he's remembering some of the events and not

remembering the others, which is kind of how

he's trying to figure out if he lived them or

not. He's like, I remember this picture. I don't

remember this one. I remember this one. I don't

remember this. So I thought that kind of set

the stage fairly well for what they're trying

to get at. Yeah, pretty much. Then we have Jennifer

and Marty in the truck trying to figure out all

of that and he goes and takes her to Lone Pine

Mall and She's like Marty for God's sake. It's

the name of a mall that's been eating at you

Yeah, this is like a conversation with TFG on

my guys I Don't live that far from you now I

can you know But yeah, they go through the whole

mall thing, because it's called Lone Pine Mall,

and it was Twin Pines Mall, so he's talking about

him knowing something different than she does

as far as their life goes, and he's going back

through the whole thing with what happened there

with Doc. Yeah. So she doesn't quite understand

what his issue is, and that's kind of where he

comes to the first idea that the only person

that's going to understand what he's thinking

is Doc. Yeah. because he's the only one that

has experienced this type of thing but we'll

have to get back to to dock a little bit later

because we have to deal with some police oh yeah

so police have come to figure out what's going

on there they see McFly there they see Jennifer

and of course they've just been talking with

needles so They have an interest in what's going

on here because needles was was bringing up Marty

Thank You cat Yeah, and then the cops are like,

oh, what's this machine should I turn it off?

What's this? Oh, no, it's don't don't touch that

it's supposed to be on and it's the message machine

and Apparently, there's a message. It's time.

We had a talk a friend in time done done done

I know you had reservations and kind of anti

against going from Needles the story to this

story, but I thought this first part of this

story was done really well Getting past the whole

needle stuff. Yeah and It's just gonna get better

from here. I think like when I read this I was

like, oh wow. Oh wow Okay, that's the way they're

going then. All right. Yep uh... i get it wait

why did it all okay it's like all these all these

lines in my head like all right that's what we're

doing now that works no i think it does set up

an interesting thing here and we we got a nice

little dynamic going where marty's questioning

things and and trying to figure out who's who

i think that's uh... that's a nice thing there

and i think you know it is going to take him

talking with doc eventually the that's the only

person that can relate to that but before that

we have to figure out who left this message for

him you know sure selling dot brown so we have

another altercation in the next issue here starting

off with him with uh... marty and needles uh...

so that that's been through line here that They

keep bringing up. So obviously that's good continuity

there. Yeah throwing ice cream at Marty see I

didn't like I didn't even catch that at first

like I see them in the background kind of a thing

on that like the page where Jennifer's like I

was You know, she's like that was right where

Doc said it would You know, Doc Brown would find

it. Like that page, I see Needles and his people

in the background, but I didn't even notice until

there was green stuff on Marty's thing that it

was a snow cone that they threw at him. Oh, yeah,

yeah. So they throw that at him and, you know,

they're kind of going back and forth about Jennifer

driving, you know, taking Needles off the road,

et cetera. And she calls him Dougie. Yeah. And

then we get an interesting situation where somebody

introduces themselves to Mr. Marty McFly, Professor

Marcus Irving. Who is uh, and um, he talks about

bob talks about this in the intro. We're on first

name basis. So I call him Bob But uh, Bob Ogle

talks about this in the intro that there is a

character that they're going to introduce In

this that had you know, a new character that

wasn't in the movies. So that is what we have

here with this professor Marcus Irving Who they

go into the backstory a little bit, but basically

to sum it up he Was also doing similar stuff

that Doc Brown was doing as far as trying to

develop projects for the government etc So he's

kind of got that scientific background and kind

of trying to pick up where? Where Doc Brown left

off and and doing some stuff for the government.

Yeah so they have this conversation and he basically

Feeds Marty a line of BS pretty much yeah because

he created a time machine out of a yugo yeah

uh no so he's basically creating a time machine

he's trying to do the same thing that doc brown

was doing um he's just missing a key component

and that is why we have him here talking to marty

he's trying to trick him into uh helping him

get that component that he needs to continue

his uh his journey so to speak Yeah, which is

the flux capacitor. Right. So we flashback, we

go through his previous time where he's being

the scientist and talking about trying to figure

out all these different equations, et cetera,

et cetera, et cetera, and not getting where he

needed to be. So it kind of sets up why he's

now doing what he's doing. He's so jealous of

dr. Brown dot doc and he's like dr. Emmett Brown

some stuffed shirt with a trust fund who'd worked

on the Manhattan project had been asked before

me like Yeah, you're not God's gift of science,

dude Doc Brown might be but you ain't Right.

So he's on the the move trying to find these

different things etc And he's going to try to

use Marty to get that. So you have him drawing

pictures of different timelines and trying to

explain a little bit about what happened here.

And I thought I actually would have loved it

if they would have done a more of a close up

of that drawing at some point. They did. No,

I mean, even more than they did, like spent more

time with it. But it was interesting because

it kind of talks about the alternate timeline.

So you have the past, you have a splitting off

into two different presence and all that kind

of stuff, which always helps try to make sense

of all these different timelines and alternate.

Reality is etc. Etc. Yeah So and this kind of

goes back to the fact that Marty's questioning,

you know who he is and which version he is etc

etc and then We see an interesting thing that

we've seen from the movies Marty's hands starts

disappearing and so does his picture of Jennifer,

right and so does he Doc walks right through

him to the other Marty So now we have multiple

Marty's But it was a dream Yeah So that's kind

of the stuff that he's going through in his head

dealing with alternate timelines etc etc So get

a little moment where his dad and him have a

moment and then he goes off to write a message

to Doc Yeah, cuz that's how they do it they write

messages it gets sent to the future and then

all sudden boom two seconds later They're usually

here. So And dog shows up in a mummy suit. Yeah

So now we finally have Doc and Marty together

again, we took a while to get here I think we're

on page like 40 something or whatever, but we

finally got Doc and Marty together so That's

when things really start to take off, no pun

intended. So he's telling him about what's going

on, and the Professor Irving thing made him nervous,

and Doc says, who? Not Marcus Irving. And that's

when he gets freaked out and does his great Scott

line, come along Marty, we have a moment to lose.

So obviously they know that something is not

what it seemed it would be and Marty's starting

to figure out that he got duped Yep, because

then all these other Marty's start showing up

and basically carry our Marty away Yeah, attack

the killer Marty's exactly and doc is oblivious

as always exactly Marty I expected no less treachery

from Professor Irving well This is an inconvenience,

but nothing unsurmountable come on. We'll find

Irving and get this untangled before it escalates

We've certainly faced graver dangers than this

done done done, and that's how this chapter ends.

Yeah Part two is interesting Like you said the

whole more set up with Irving we finally get

I like that it took until the middle almost the

end of part two to actually get Doc in there

because There have to be times when more yeah,

okay Marty and Doc face everything together.

That's great. That's fine, but there has to be

times where Marty Confaced stuff on his own like

in the first volume when you know He first met

doc and trying to figure out how to get into

his lab and that kind of stuff And all that like

there has to be situations where Marty is on

his own or Marty and Jennifer are on their own

and then you have doc come in to like you know

all of that but Wow multiple Marty's at the end.

Holy crap Yeah, it's kind of interesting. So

we definitely have a situation here where we

have character we've had marty and he's had his

direct antagonist with you know the different

hands or with needles et cetera et cetera we

haven't had a counterpart to dock when it comes

to the science well so it's interesting now that

we have two different people there cable of of

coming up with the knowledge to produce a time

machine et cetera et cetera and sets up a interesting

conundrum here because now you have two different

people that Being an endless loop of going back

and trying to change what the other person did

over and over and over and over and over again

Yeah, so That's kind of where we're set up here

when we start the third volume What I love about

part three the main cover at least on the inside

of the trade is you've got 50s Marty you've got

Nuclear suit Marty you've got regular Marty you've

got old west Marty and some other kind of maybe

future maybe that's the business marty version

like the 2015 version like i love that that's

so cool yeah it's definitely an interesting look

at all the different martys and yeah um and then

we go right into this attack that marty and doc

are being costed by multiple martys yeah so and

they're thinking what the heck have we gotten

ourselves into um you know and marty's saying

it's his fault and all this that's one thing

that i do want to bring up because That is one

part of this volume three, Back to the Future

thing that does bug me a little bit. Like there

is like 3 ,000 different times where Marty is

saying, oh this is my fault, this is my fault,

over and over and over again. And I could have

dealt with a little less of that. I get he feels

bad, like whatever, but we get it. Like we don't

need it beaten over our heads that you think

it's your fault. Like we get that you're feeling

guilty. Yeah So yeah, and he's been doing that

since Not necessarily since volume one of the

ongoing but at least since last was since volume

two There there have been times were like, oh,

you know volume two was like, oh I have to you

know, I feel bored I have to you know find myself

kind of a thing I have to do this time -traveling

thing Jennifer and all this and all that but

now it's like Always me everything is my fault.

How is it your fault some crackpot old scientist

brought you into this technically? It's Doc Brown's

fault for all this right right like really Yeah,

so anyways they get in this fight doc takes off

and the and the DeLorean With one Marty hanging

on yeah, and Marty is basically being held hostage

by a couple more Marty's so Getting confusing

that's for sure But yeah, I don't know it's a

Now they're in that situation where they're trying

to come up with a plan on how they're gonna fix

it You know this kind of like goes through a

cycle you have Marty and Doc doing something

they run into some situation that seems ridiculous

And then they have to come up with a plan on

how to fix it and then when they fix it immediately

after that it happens again usually so We're

used to this type of situation Like you said

they've been through graver things before yeah

and you know it goes back and forth between uh...

blue jacket and marty with doc and marty with

the other martys in the wherever they are and

marty is trying to figure out you know uh...

you know who are you who is this you know what

timeline are you from you know this and the other

thing and this is what i liked about this was

uh... you know your hand is so stiff Must make

it hard to play guitar, you know all of that

like he's trying to figure out all this stuff

and then You know you cut back to Doc and he

the Marty in the car and Doc have a little fight

and oh my god He rips his face He basically pulls

a 2007 Optimus Prime give me your face And it

is revealed that Marty is a robot Yeah So a lot

of back and forth there like you were talking

about where they're it's basically Marty talking

to people that aren't talking to him. Right.

And then Doc discovering that they're not real,

that they're robots. And then we have the DeLorean

crashing back into the building. Yep. And then

we have Marty and Doc reunited again. And Marty

is seeing that they are robots. Now they're all

trying to figure out what the hell they're going

to do with that. Yeah. So. Yep, and then we of

course have The other professor Marcus Irving

yeah, yeah showing up and he sees that two of

the robots have been destroyed So he's kind of

understands where they're at and then we have

Marty and Doc trying to come up with their come

up with their plan Yep So and then we have another

interjection of needles So He's kind of like

I said being brought up here and there and everywhere

and then the the third robot Marty who clearly

has a robot face at this point It's a fight with

needles and his friends. Yeah So they think it's

already it's weird how long they think that's

still Marty. Yeah. Well needles and most of his

friends are pretty Dumb most of the time and

these robots are all kind of programmed with

different directives. So Like one of them like

they were coming up here directive three is eliminate

witnesses one of them was to capture Marty You

know so that they have a specific criteria that

they're kind of following as we go through here

So yeah, they kind of have the three laws like

the three laws of robotics kind of thing But

not really because directive three as you said

Eliminate witnesses well a robot killing anybody

is not exactly in with the three laws of robotics

but we end this this issue with This is all my

fault. Woe is me. I'm dumbass Marty McFly that

ruined everything. Yadda yadda yadda. I do love

the art in this. I love how Emma's design on

the robot faces is. It's not any specific homage.

It's not a faceplate, it's not a bumblebee, it's

not a this, it's not a that. And they could have

easily done that because IDW has the Transformers

license, so they could have... Not saying Marty

McFly is Optimus Prime, but they could have done

that but the fact that they drew just generic

Robot faces for these things. I thought was really

cool I love all the different Marty designs like

when he's all the Marty's are together like the

ones in the two vests the blue jacketed one the

the Like I said before the one in the in the

radiation suit all of that. I think the art in

this is so good. Yeah Definitely some of the

most consistent stuff we've seen in the series

up to this point, so. Yep. Alright, so we start

off our next volume. Coming off the heels of

what we just saw with Needles and his gang trying

to be eliminated by Robot Marty, etc. And what

exactly, how they're gonna get out of that. Yep,

and the only way to do that is for Marty to surrender

himself Basically basically because that you

know and completes directive two which is capture

Marty McFly Yeah, before we get to that, I do

like one of my favorite quotes here between Doc

Brown and Marty in this issue, but it comes right

away at the beginning here, and they're trying

to talk about what's happening with, you know,

Professor Irving, who's gallivanting through

the timeline, and it says basically, you know,

we need to stop the robot. We happen to have

electromagnetica. Electromagnet on you by any

chance and Marty says why would I I love Doc's

response Marty I don't know what a teenage boy

in the 1980s does for fun a simple no would have

sufficed So That was great just like I don't

know maybe maybe boys from the 80s had electromagnets

on them I don't know what they did for fun. Well,

you know, there was you know a rector sense and

all that So, yeah, then we have Marty, you know,

trying to be captured because he comes back in

the scene, so that triggers the second response.

And in the meantime, Doc makes a run for it.

Mm -hmm. And what I want to know is, because

it's never actually shown throughout the rest

of this story, what was Directive 1? Like, seriously?

What the hell was that? Because if Directive

2 is to capture Marty McFly and Directive 3 is

to eliminate all witnesses, what was your main

objective? Like, other than tricking Marty and

the robots and the this and the like, the robots

never say what Directive 1 was. Yeah, I don't

remember that either. So Doc comes in to try

to, you know, make the rescue, but unfortunately

he gets injected with sedative. yeah tranquilizer

dart so uh so that's in him he's passed out and

now we have mr erving coming back in to try to

play all the cards here and and and run the show

so he's uh he's knocked out most of needles and

the friends he's knocked out doc brown marty's

about the only one that's still with it yeah

and they're all driving away yeah and we get

a flashback to you know younger, more innocent,

ignorant self carrying your flux capacitor in

my trunk. I've been driving around trying to

lose anyone who might be following me, and, you

know, he's reminiscing on how and what his objective

is gonna be and all that. Right, right. And his

truck, yeah, his truck or whatever it is that

he's driving looks like a Police APC version

of the DeLorean. Yeah, so we have both cars being

driven here the DeLorean and then his truck Kind

of going into this remote place in the side of

a cliff, etc Off in the middle of nowhere basically

Yeah so and basically what happened here is he

Sends one one place and another another place

So he's going to 1997 But before that he tries

to drop Marty and Doc off into the prehistoric

time period Yeah, so that's what how he's gonna

get rid of them for good put him back there.

Let the dinosaurs do their thing but before he

leaves Doc gets in one quick message to the other

professor basically what happens if We have some

type of disease or something You know, which

makes the professor think a bunch and while meanwhile

while Doc and Marty are trying to survive from

saber -toothed tigers and Dinosaurs and whatever

else is out here in this prehistoric time period

The professor is considering what Doc said and

if they do have some type of sickness or disease

and they wipe out Some type of all life or this

that and the other and maybe nothing ever happens

and human beings cease to exist Yep, and we get

Marty and Doc versus a saber -toothed tiger and

luckily Doc still had his wrapping from his mummy

suit Somehow don't know how but okay sure it's

back to the future whatever What I love before

they got to this period was when Marcus said

told the driver to take him to 88 I'm like we're

going to 19 and then I realized 88 miles per

hour duh Do like this though because it did set

up a time here where we didn't know what was

going to Happen how were how are they gonna get

out of the prehistoric times because there's

no DeLorean here There's no way they're gonna

be able to build something back in this time

period So it was for a little bit somewhat of

a mystery here trying to figure out how they

were gonna get out of here so That is interesting,

but obviously the professor comes back and picks

them back up and then they go to his his lair

so to speak 1997 I think his laboratory yes Yep,

so He's basically got all this stuff going on

all these different models of different flux

capacitors and and this that and the other And

a bunch more robots. Oh, yeah, there's tons of

Marty bots and dock bottoms Yeah, that's who

so he had backup bots of everything And so basically

they're amongst an army of robots and how are

they gonna get out of this? Yeah That's how volume

for part four ends Pretty much the one thing

that They bring up that we haven't mentioned

yet is the inter what the internet Marty is part

of the future Yeah, exactly What are you doing,

Doc? I need fuel. Go ahead. Quick. Get in the

car. No, no, no, Doc. I just got here, okay?

Jennifer's here. We're gonna take the new truck

for a spin. Well, bring along. This concerns

her, too. Wait a minute, Doc. What are you talking

about? What happens to us in the future? Are

we gonna become assholes or something? No, no,

no, Marty. Both you and Jennifer turn out fine.

It's your kids, Marty. Something has gotta be

done about your kids. So all right, so we start

part five here in 1997 with Doc Brown and Marty

amongst a slew of robots, you know Yeah, they

start with the robots and Marty or doc has the

auto retrieval thing for the DeLorean Yep, so

the DeLorean comes flying in. As always. Yep,

crashes through the window, they get in, and

it's basically the professors trying to get down

to them while they're trying to escape. They're

flying around this building, etc. The one thing

I noticed before we get to the DeLorean crashing

through is when they go, Doc hits the button

and then they go to the next panel where the

butler Marty is kind of sweeping up. I'm like,

ooh, it's a back to the future version of the

Batcave, because you look at that and come on,

the car's right there. There's a ramp, there's

stairs, there's all this stuff on display. Damn,

it's a back to the future Batcave. That's funny,

but yeah, basically thing flies out and and crashes

through and they get in they escape and professor

Irving can't get to the garage. He can't get

to the penthouse He can't get anywhere in his

own damn building right, right and then they

do notice that there's a lot that basically what's

been happening is the professor has been going

into the future and then coming back and like

designing things kind of backward Science to

try to figure out how things were made etc reverse

engineering etc And you have them kind of looking

at all these different things like cell phones

and iPods and the internet etc etc You know,

so that's that's an interesting panel. It's kind

of cool with the except for Google instead of

Google Well, they I mean they really can't do

right, right I mean they got away with Cuz you

can barely make out iPod Mm -hmm iPod slash zoom

or whatever so you know Right so and you know

taking a look at all the different stuff and

these future objects and Marty's thinking there

might be a way to figure out some more about

him and if he's famous because he's on the internet

or whatever no that comes later, but It's interesting

thing and there's also they kind of have a light

bulb go off because they see this professor's

youth and some pictures of him as a child right

and They kind of come to the realize that he's

all alone. He's always all alone. He's in the

secluded area. He's It doesn't have friends etc.

Etc. Mm -hmm, so Gives them an idea. Yeah Which

which is where we get to the point of them confronting

his younger self Sort of and he's like there

this must be me. I've become my own reinforcement.

I'm like Yeah, yeah, basically the other the

other So we have two of the professors also showing

up two different versions the younger one the

older one so back in 1986 So we're bouncing back

and forth between 97 and 86 here Yep, cuz wow,

there's just so much going on here Yeah Multiple

McFly's multiple Docs multiple professors multiple

everybody. Yeah, so it got a little confusing

here but Necessary I guess with what they were

doing Yeah, they almost injured some innocent

bystanders which plays a part kinda going through

this timeline too there's a woman and her child

that almost get hit by the car yeah yeah so basically

they have to convince the younger version of

the professor that what he's doing is wrong basically

yeah so they have to play to the fact that he

always is alone and and why he's doing what he's

doing and and you know how he became this paranoid

cheater so to speak So, it's basically them finding

a way to convince him without having to hurt

him or do anything else like that. And then we

get to see the older version of the Professor

and all the duplicates start to disappear. That's

good. Yep. No more Marty bots. Yeah, enough with

the Marty bots. Exactly. We basically have Marty

saying, and that's how it was, Jennifer, and

they're back in the diner. Yep. and you know

luckily young Irving old Irving whatever it is

you know he has relationship with the woman that

he saved or whatever that you know that is and

and it ends on um it's the price of admission

which gives me an idea for a song yep so he's

finally kind of come to terms with who he is

and that you know all the different alternate

forms, et cetera, et cetera, they're all still

him. Right. So. Yep. Why was that? Yeah, I thought

this was going to be a little different than

what it was. Like, I get it. Introducing the

new character of Marcus Irving. But I really

thought we were going to split off into two different

timelines. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of weird because

obviously you're getting that character you don't

know and the whole thing's based on that and

then you have all these different clones and

bots etc etc so it was a place that we haven't

gone to yet in this franchise as far as the clones

and things like that and you know usually they

avoid trying to run into each other but here

we have a situation where there's they're running

into each other every other place right it's

all robots instead of real yeah And except for

the professor, I guess, is both real. Yeah, it

was interesting. I wasn't expecting it to go

this route either. I did enjoy it. It kept my

interest. The art is very consistent throughout

this episode, like we've mentioned a couple different

times. You know, there's some good lines and

whatnot. It's just a little different than what

we normally get with Back to the Future. Right.

But you were asking for, you know, last episode,

you were asking for more Marty and Doc adventure.

Yeah, that definitely gives it to us. Just definitely

gives it to us. I liked it. I liked it overall.

Yeah, I liked it overall, too. But when I say

that I thought it was going to split off into

two separate timelines, what I mean is... Like,

okay, look at the first movie. In the, um...

In the club scene. the club scene at the under

the sea dance when you have one Marty on stage

and one Marty backstage I thought the quote -unquote

new character was going to be a real Marty from

a different timeline that like this issue or

that in this volume in this trade he says I'm

Forgetting things or time has changed and I haven't

or this like I don't remember the way I did this

or the way I did that So the way I thought they

were gonna introduce a new character quote -unquote

a new villain or whatever was that it was going

to be an alternate like Look at Biff. Biff has

two alternates. Biff has really, you know, docile,

you know, car washing, auto detailing Biff, and

then Biff has, I've taken over the world! Like,

that's what I thought this was going to be. I'm

not disappointed that that's not what it is.

I'm just saying that's what I thought it was

going to be, and... Was mistaken and I was fine

with being mistaken about it I mean cuz like

lately like we said we didn't know they're gonna

be robots at first right like I thought they

were what Marty was talking about like all these

different time periods of himself I like Marcus

Irving and at first I thought he was going to

be the worst villain in the piece, but I Don't

know nobody could really top Biff when Biff is

Doing what what he does we'll have to wait to

next week to see if anybody else besides Biff

Griff or Needles can really top the back -to

-the -future villainy because next week. We'll

be talking about Citizen Brown Which is another

miniseries they did But overall volume three

who is Marty McFly I'd give it a probably a four

out of five. What about you? I'd probably be

you know three and a half Four somewhere in there.

I mean I enjoy it. It was entertaining I would

prefer them coming into contact with the real

versions of themselves versus robots So that

I would prefer and my only nitpick about the

episode overall was, or the volume was a little

bit too much of Marty saying it's my fault for

everything. Blaming himself, yeah. Blaming himself,

and I got that. That was kind of, it ran its

course. But I thought, like I said, great artwork,

interesting dialogue here and there, and some

good moments. I just, yeah, like it was a little

bit, I like my Back to the Future dealing more

with reality than the robot world. So I guess

that's my only nitpick. Yeah So interested to

see where we go from here Absolutely What do

you got going on over on cinema geeks right now?

Oh, you know the ongoing stuff we Most recently

had our March Madness Tournament back last month

where we did all the Marvel movies and pitted

them against each other And then we have our

Kevin Smith the retrospective going on if you

like Kevin Smith. We've been doing all of his

movies uh... we've been doing video game movies

uh... we're almost towards the end of that so

there's uh... there's a lot of stuff going on

over there you should check out absolutely um...

yeah here inside the pullback we've got all this

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