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of Transformers is TFG with Mike. That's right.

It's me. And Pecan Court Michael. Hey, how's

it going? It's going. Sometimes I wish it would

stop. Not cool, Mike. Not cool. Why? It's what

I always say. What he always says, even though

it's a little narcissistic and perhaps suicidal.

No, no, no, don't you dare put suicide into my

mouth. I don't think so. No, no, no. He's like

Octane. Why does everybody hate me? Exactly.

That's what it is. The universe hates me. The

weather hates me. My air conditioner hates me.

What air conditioner? I need money for one of

those things. Mike's like, what's an air conditioner?

Do you have those things? What? He had to shoot

it because it was a decepticon. That was the

problem. Yeah. He laughed. His wife laughed.

The air conditioner laughed. The air conditioner

laughed and then it shot him. Yeah, the air conditioner

shot me. There you go. I'm dead. I don't have

to worry about air conditioning or no air conditioning

because I'll already be in hell as it is. Oh,

that's why he wished it would stop. That's right.

Oh, dear. I really, really, really understand

Azrael from Dogma now. I just want to be nothing,

nothingness, no heaven, no hell, just a central

state of nothingness. The center cannot hold

and it's unfolding as we speak. We haven't talked

in a while. We discovered this last week. We're

reconnecting with Previous hosts and we're like

we should do this again. Yes, absolutely on a

more permanent basis kind of thing No Transformers

what what have you been doing? Transformers wise

Michael buying toys watching cartoons watching

crappy movies Actually, you know since I was

going to be on the show Uh, tonight I thought

that I would catch up with kingdom because I

actually hadn't watched it yet Wasn't in a hurry

to watch it. I've only been hearing bad things

about it and I didn't like the first two Uh,

you know showings from the from the series And

I really liked it Uh, I I like this surprisingly

a lot. Um it wasn't as bad as uh, you know earth

rise and um, yeah that other one that Not even

memorable enough to remember the name. So I literally

like somebody was like one of the what was it

one of the forums I was on because TFW has got

a 43 page run going now of God, which is hilarious

because it started when the trailers dropped

and then it got worse when the clip of Beast

Wars Megatron was leaked. Oh, my gosh. So bad.

Yeah. I wonder who could have leaked that. I

don't know that guy's kind of a kind of a jerk

and um No, I mean he's kind of a better voice

actor than who they got to voice I know and it's

amazing because this this particular clip went

everywhere around the internet for a while and

um, yeah it people were Comparing voices and

saying yeah hire this man now and yeah They're

like hasbro rooster teeth hire this man now.

What are you doing? So yeah, it was quite humorous

to see my clip go everywhere Yeah, you're and

you're not even Union so they can I know I was

I was complaining about it when I heard that

they were doing Kingdom last year I was like,

oh they're gonna botch this so bad. I'm like

I I'm like the the one they're gonna mess up

the most Beast Wars Megatron. This is cuz they're

gonna get somebody that sounds nothing like him

Yeah, not even try and then they're gonna like

somewhat attempt it but it's gonna sound like

garbage I actually thought they got Hunter Jackson

from Gwar. He's like, you thought you could destroy

me. Gwar is Michael's favorite band favorite.

Gwar thought they could destroy techno destructo.

And I'm like, is that Hunter Jackson? Well, it's

Marcus something and I don't blame the actor.

I honestly don't. I blame the voice director

for being dumb. You know what? I was thinking

the same thing because it's not the actor who's

like the actor. Do I have to be what he was given?

Yeah, exactly. It's you know, honestly, if I

don't believe that during his his interview,

his trial, right, his. Really? I don't believe

they even brought up the previous Megatron They're

just like can you say yes, and then he's like

yeah, and then they're like sold enough No, I

think that they I think maybe he started with

that He probably got in that booth and did his

best David Kay and it wouldn't been as good as

yours, but it would have been interesting more

interesting than this take on and and then you

know the the A director got in there, the voice

director said, wow, can you make it really slow

and really stilted? And he's like, can you sound

like you for some reason? Yeah. Can you make

him sound like he's really big and dumb, but

not dumb, but not, you know, and the guy's like,

how about this? And the guy goes, perfect. And

I I don't like it. I don't think anybody likes

it. No ever well there was only the people that

have like no taste apparently because I've seen

a couple like butt -kissing to The the creators

of this saga I've seen it on Facebook. Somebody

was like, I don't get what everybody hates about

this Megatron. It's great. I Said I says have

you not read any of the comments anywhere? I

said a little something on your nose there and

I'm like it cuz FJ like liked it right away And

and I have nothing against him like he I know

part of it was I believe part of it was studio

meddling Because I heard on another show that

he's tried to get more episodes Yeah, and then

and then Roosterteeth just doesn't care Yeah,

yeah Roosterteeth and Netflix don't care. But

here's the thing as I I mentioned this all fair

Because I'm actually putting this up on August

8th, so you guys will hear it and it'll be timely

But it's one of those things where I was in Rodimus

Primal's stream His August 1st stream and FJ

came into the comments because Rodimus Primal

has interviewed the guy before and we were talking

about Kingdom We were giving our opinions. We

were talking about the voice direction and the

voice cast and the whatever FJ said in the chat

that between Hasbro, Netflix, and Rooster Teeth,

they were given a budget for the entire trilogy

and they could only use that budget and he said

apparently the budget wasn't robust enough. Yeah.

So had they approached me, I would have done

it for free just to say that I played Megatron.

Exactly. Yes. I still would do it. If they came

to me and they're like, you know, they're like,

hey, we're continuing this Beast Wars thing.

Would you play Waspinator and Megatron? I would

be like, John, yes. Be like, don't even pay me.

Just I'll send you the clips. I'm happy enough

to have an IMDB credit. Exactly. Yeah. Can we

give it up for Frank, though? I mean, come on,

man. Oh, great. Awesome. Right. Amazing. I loved

his I loved his rat trap. Yes. because he was

like one. He's a New Yorker, so he's got that

like, yeah, yeah. And then he hit he hit those

Mm hmm. Yeah, there wasn't much written as far

as dialogue for him to play, but he pulled off

what he had. Well, yeah. I mean, I have seen

it and I tell you he he you could tell he was

having fun. He enjoyed it and he was trying to

get some of that that love in there to channel

it. Yeah. Well, Earthrise and Siege as a series,

you know, they were seeming piles of garbage,

with the exception of Frank. He was a shining

jewel in the senior pile of garbage. I honestly

think that the bulk of the good writing went

into a kingdom. Yeah. Well, and they slowed down.

They sped up the acting. They did. Everybody

except for Optimus and Megatron. Which Megatron,

I didn't really have a problem with it, but Optimus.

Which is funny because Optimus, I kind of wish

that he talked faster, but when he gets more

emotional, that's when he loses the voice. Yeah,

exactly. Or he's like, no, wait, stop. And it's

like, wow, you didn't pause anywhere in there.

Megatron, don't do that. Yeah, my pants are full.

So I'm breaking Shatnerian law by speaking really

fast. It's like, wait a minute, what are you

doing? It's not doing Shatner anymore. Megatron

must be stopped. No matter the cost. And it's

like. Oh, man, you know, Colin said that in one

go, you know, in one whole second, just for Megatron

must be stopped, no matter the cost. This guy

draws it out for like an hour. It's like, and

again, I think that 22 minute run time because

he sounds fine. Isn't he the one that does it

in Cyperverse? Yeah. Jake Fushi. Yeah. Yeah.

And he sounds fine in that. Yeah, again, I don't

think it's him. I think it's the voice. Yeah,

I blame the voice director 110 % on this whole

thing. And I get that they had a limited budget,

but like you couldn't find actors that sound

alike. I found actors that sound like every character

in Beast Wars 10 years ago for the Dark Glass

project. And out of those people, two of them

are union. Like now. Yeah, all like. Like one

of the guys that's in it, he played the Maximal

computer. He played Soundwave. So what happened

with DinoBot and Tigatron? Oh, you mean they

swap voice? Clearly they should have swapped

voice. Yeah, clearly. Well, Tigatron had like

one line and it sounded like DinoBot. Well, he

sounded like a war bot for one and Tigatron is

like I don't feel good fighting, you know, it's

just he's just more of a peaceful like, you know,

forgive me for what I must now do, you know,

and he's not like gung -ho like this guy's like

blown to scrap. Well, that but he sounds like

he sounds like dynamite. He's got that growled

in his voice. I know. And in. Yeah. And what

does Tiger sound like? They sound like this.

It's like, uh, yeah, but that's not what Tiger

trance sounds like. I don't know. Again, voice

direction. Well, I mean, and they could have

got they could have hired Chris McFeely is is

Dinobot. Yeah. Yeah, I'll buy that. Sure. I've

physically heard him do it because he did it

in the dark glass video. Yeah, no, I've heard

him do voices. He's not he's not terrible. I

could see him playing it. But anyways, yeah,

I mean, I give them props for what they tried

to do in it. And it was the best out of the three.

Yeah, I mean, even if we go back to the writing,

I mean, the first couple of series, I did not

like the writing. There was huge plot holes.

There were huge gaps in between things. It was

like, how did we get from here to here? What

happened? Did they have blooper reels? Did they

they strip a bunch of stuff out? Was it too long?

And this one, if you with Kingdom, if you can

get over the whole idea of crappy maximals and

and Autobots living in the same timeline and

being the same height, if you can wrap your,

you know, Beast Wars centric head around that,

then it's not terrible. No, I think isn't that

bad. It's not like. There's a giant space bridge

out there. But in order to get to it, we have

to fly through zombie verse. I'm like, seriously?

And then we have to hop, skip and jump through

Scorponok's lair. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's like,

who wrote this garbage? It's like we threw a

bunch of toys at an eight year old and we watched

carefully and then we began to write down everything

he said. Then we said, this is what they want.

This is what the kids called for. Yeah, exactly.

Yep. It needs more cowbell. Yep. Yeah, but yeah,

the story overall in Kingdom was enjoyable. Yeah,

I think I think still my favorite scenes are

the laser beak, air razor chase and anything

to do with Nemesis Prime and Galvatron. Oh, yeah.

I liked any time Starscream showed up. That too.

Yes, that too. He's like, you idiot, you were

born a slave, you're gonna die one too! Megatron's

like, what are you talking about? And he's like,

you moron! Yes, I've seen the future, I know

what happens! Starscream, get out of my way,

what are you gonna do to me? I can fly. That

was the fact I cheered. I did. I was like, that

was awesome. He's like, what are you going to

do? He's like, I can fly. He'd like to like kick

into the into the fireball. I was like, oh, yes,

Starscream. I so I literally cheered. I'm like,

you know, and it wasn't just a cheer. I said,

Frank, I was Frank Megatron is Galvatron. And

then to follow that up you've got a giant Titan

standing up and going not in my house He's like,

oh, my God. I was like, they should have done

that. Now that you've said that, like, that would

be hilarious to have the arc say he goes, oh,

oh, oh, not my house, my house and just slap

it away. Fireball. It was it was a really cool

moment. And I'm like, you know what? I've watched

this entire freaking series just for this moment.

Yeah, it was great. It was great. It really was.

I thought it was awesome. I haven't even watched

the last episode. I haven't gotten that far yet.

I know what happens. They get back to Cybertron,

but I haven't seen it unfold yet. But I did get

to the end of episode five and I was suitably

impressed. Like I said, I'm really impressed

with the writing on the glass. They missed an

awesome dialogue piece with Primal that they

could have used where he said, you know, where

he does something in the in the last part. And

they missed an opportunity where they could have

gone, well, sometimes crazy works. Because he's

like, I have an idea. Yep. And it's like something

really off the wall. And I'm like, oh, they missed

it. They could have been like. They could have

gone that way. Yeah. I was like, they could have

done that. At least thrown it in. Because like

Beast Wars, they had like. You know that that

wasn't built. It was poured die cast construction.

It's a lost art You know like poking fun at something

from the past like yeah, like a little little

quips like that would have been great But yeah,

it was glossed over instead of yes Please do

it properly, please come on yes at the years

and the other thing that bothered me was a You

know, I knew Dinobot was going to die not because

somebody told me but because it's not Transformers

Beast Wars unless Dinobot dies. Well, he died.

He died in Code of the Hero and he died in Nemesis.

But he didn't. Yeah, he's like, do you have a

speech per se? You know, he just kind of went

like he's like, if I've been a good Dinobot and

death says, I've been told you were the best.

And he's like, good. You know, I know he talks

to Primal. If I transferred to you, would you

have? You know, yeah. He's like, yeah, I would

have taken you. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I guess

so. But you would have been a terrible lot about

it. He's like, I'm cool with that. And then he

dies. Well, Claude was a ghost. I was like, he's

going to say something cool. He's going to be

like, he's going to quote Shakespeare. You know,

and he just went, I'm dead. I want to have him.

So Claude of Hero was what? Season two, season

three, season two. Season 2. You had already

13, 26, whatever it is, episodes to build up.

He had a character arc. Yeah, he had a whole

character arc. And you're just introducing the

Beast characters in these final six episodes.

And you have to clamber in so much. I'm really

surprised. And I applaud them, regardless of

what negative feelings we have towards it. I

applaud them. In these 18 episodes, they put

so much stuff into these. I was I was sad. We

didn't get a waspinator and tarantulas. Yeah.

And pterosaur. I feel like pterosaur. But there

were 18 scorpinox though. I know. Yeah. Maybe

they were maybe they were clones. They were they

were scorpic clones. They were scorpic clones.

Scorpinox. And they all combined into like a

camera with a bunch of tails. Spiky tails. Man,

that's a bad reflector. No, he turned into a

tentacle monster. I've seen enough hentai to

know where this is going. Please, no tentacle

porn in this podcast, please. All right, got

to bring back old beast unleashed jokes. I know,

I know. It ain't all things Transformers until

the tentacle porn shows up, folks. We had Rhinox,

but he didn't take the low road. Nope. But he

sent it to console. And Wheeljack's like, that

works. Yeah, I loved how they paired off the

Maximals and the Autobots. I thought that was

nice. I thought that was really good. Rhinox

and Wheeljack and whatever else. But yeah, I

thought that was nice. So holy crap, Steve, 13

years. I know. I was describing that because

somebody is like, How'd you get access to the

Netflix show early? On one of the Transformers

forums and on Discord. And I'm like, because

I'm awesome. And then I said. I've been a correspondent

for 13 years. I said, I says, I says, well, I

said, have you ever heard of that place called

TF wire? And they're like, some of them are like,

no. And I says, you're young. And then I... It's

predates you by a few years. Yeah. So I was like,

uh, there was a show called War Stories. I did

an audio drama there and then I went, you know,

just reading people's fanfics. I said in character

voices, I says, then I, I says I was on an episode

of TF wire. Then I went and started my own podcast,

All Things Transformers. And I said, uh, yeah,

so we've, we've built in a Transformers empire.

And, and I'm the true Megatron. I says when David

K is not in the picture. So I says, otherwise

I bow before David K, but I said, if, if he's

not playing him, I says they're just wrong. If

they don't, they don't contact me. So, and then

I, I sent my clip over and then they're all like,

Oh yeah. I both love and hate how that clip got.

leaked sort of because no no no it's not because

of you it's because of these people on Twitter

oh by the way the voice of Beast Wars Megatron

in Kingdom got leaked how about you give credit

to who leaked it oh sure you can copy our audio

file link that has our website name in it but

you can't say you can't do enough damn research

and say at geek cast radio at all things TFV3

at SCP 20 like seriously Come on people. I and

then I started seeing the images people were

dubbing them Dubbing the clips doing their own

really bad Megatrons and I says and then I like

I saw the pictures because I was like I was on

YouTube and I was going across and some people

were posting videos and I'm on this various discord

channels for Transformers and somebody's like

look at my Megatron and I I like chuckled to

myself. I says I says hey nice picture I says

I know where that came from oh yeah my review

and then I posted it in the comments um and then

uh and then I says I says oh and then uh I says

you know because if the voice was good like they

did a decent job it was close but it was never

you know close close it was it was never you

yeah yeah so or or like techno techno can do

a pretty good one too We both do different inflections

when we play the character. Techno was even like

when he heard my clip and then heard the other

clip. He's like, what the heck is this? He's

like about the official. And then he's like,

he's like, say what you will about, you know,

he says, Steve and I both do different inflections

and different like versions of Megatron. He says,

but that's the beauty of the character. He says

there's so much dynamic ways that you could say

things in character. He says, if you just follow

the, you know, the way that David Cade kind of

performed it. And, and he says, you know, he

says, I could see either of us doing the voice.

He says, but like this, what they got, he says,

why? How could this have happened? They didn't

summon me there with a purpose. So. Burdened

with glorious purpose. Why'd I have to be the

chosen one? Somebody, uh, oh yeah. Um, what was

it? I was talking with our good friend Brad on

the Facebook page and on the episode post. And

he's like, you know, with everything that's gone

on with it, he's like, I think I know the answer

to this anyway, he says, and you probably would

do it. But he's like, if you had read the script

first and, you know, seen what the dialogue was

going to be, would you have, you know, still

done it? And I was like, yeah i was like yeah

i was like i would still do the voice i said

and the thing is is i would do it because um

one if you're an actor typically they give you

some leeway to uh help influence the script like

within reason like they aren't gonna let you

take it over but if you have an idea of how to

better portray what they have written or to rewrite

it differently on the spot Mm -hmm. They're pretty

much okay with it as long as it doesn't like

influence too much of you know extend the runtime

or it doesn't you know mess with certain aspects

of the production and so like I I feel like if

they had somebody who actually knew the character

Yeah, or any of the characters for that matter

and then like, you know maybe this voice should

be for this person and this person for this person

and and kind of gone from there I feel like You

know, we could be in a little bit better place,

you know people wouldn't be griping about oh

this actor should have played this character

and this character and You know this line sucks

because it's not How they would say it or or

the way that they would say it like they would

have like I? Couldn't help but think that like

Beast Wars Megatron would be more condescending

Right, you know like a little less kiss -assy.

Yeah, and and he would have been like more like

Blinding his time scheming like he did to Starscream

and possession Yeah, you know little you know

kind of holding his cards close to his chest

but not like revealing Everything, you know playing

the part that he needs to play for the moment,

but then like ha ha look I've got the upper hand

That never happened question though if they came

to you and said we'd like you to play Beast Wars

Megatron you'd be like heck yeah I will for free

even and then they get you in this room with

this terrible voice actor who says that well

wait a minute I don't want you to play it like

that I'd like you to do I'd like you to make

him sound a bit like Ace Ventura and you'd be

like what would you still do it for free No,

you couldn't if you couldn't do David Kay. If

I couldn't do the differences I'm walking out

yeah, if I couldn't do like the David Kay voice

or dude like You know a deep voice that would

kind of go with that kind of a tyrant character

Yeah, I just couldn't because even if it's not

David Kay Like they could have at least gotten

something that was not like dark and brooding

like everything else they have But they could

have gotten somebody that could have been more

balanced Yeah, like more more like I don't know

more Shakespearean more of that bravado that

that Megatron kind of Shoots off, you know, sir

Patrick Stewart. Yeah Megatron, how dare you

come to my bridge? Take the slow like that. Yeah,

you know You gotta speed up just a little bit

more. You gotta fit it in that dialogue. We have

a lot of dialogue here to go in 22 minutes because

it's a well -written show, so just pick it up

a little bit. It's a groveling character. You

have to grovel. Yeah, I couldn't do it. It would

kill me. I feel like the character... I do like

a quasi like David Kay in something else that

I work in. Like it's not full on David Kay because

I dropped some of the nuances of the character.

But yeah, the way like it's played a little bit

more comedic, but I have that that depth of the

voice and people love it like because I play

kind of jerk. But he's like he's he's, you know,

kind of behind the behind the scenes kind of

way. Like he's, you know, plotting and, you know,

scheming. And then you find out what his scheme

is later. And that's, you know, very much along

those lines. So yeah, it's just. I don't know.

I feel like that they could have gotten a lot

of directions with this, but I overall did enjoy

like I enjoyed, you know force ghost Dino bot

You know except for the worst like yeah, he's

like come with me Optimus Primal. I will take

you in there He'd actually say anything which

I kind of enjoyed I I was like the he just kind

of ran around the corner went He just did ghost

of stars Yeah This is ran raise possessing him.

He's like, no, I'm possessed. And I can walk

through walls. And then primal's like, I saw

your entire life flash before my eyes. That was

kind of cool. I don't know. I and then black

or acne, everybody's shipping her and areas are

now because of their. Yes. Yeah, it's like the

other thing I liked at the end of episode five.

You're like, my hero. I'm like, oh, yeah. Well,

seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

Yeah. Well, so now everybody's losing their mind

over that on on all of the uh, the forums and

all the discord channels now, uh It's not like

a star wars reference. It's just like Well, and

it's funny because people seem to forget people

seem to forget that um You know rat trap was

saved by rhinox when he blew up uh Tarantulas

and ravage and rampage and then blew and crashed

he goes my hero OK, down. Yeah, OK. You know,

it's so like it was just it was hilarious. You

know, it's to me it's it's along those lines.

It's just playing around with the, you know,

the fact that they just like she's a flirt, you

know, rat traps, kind of just a sarcastic dick.

And yeah, it's just what you have. Yes, Scott

McNeil infused enough personality into Rattrap

for you. That is believable without you thinking

that it was a pass. I know. And it was I don't

know. I love the whole dynamics of everybody

in this. So like I think that they could have

done some things with this this series. But on

a whole like I did enjoy the kingdom the most.

It was the strongest bit. And not just because

of the beasties but no The better better dialogue

the dialogue was better some of that dialogue.

It's like you could write this george, but you

can't say it out loud Yeah Did you guys see what

um tfu .info posted on twitter? No, I have not

no so somebody in the fandom said something about

how The creators should be ashamed of themselves

because they fridged Alita one Yeah in the refrigerator

Yeah, and those are bones and Person that I I'm

sorry tfu .info. I don't remember your name right

off the top of my head But the person over at

tfu info posted on Twitter a picture of his refrigerator

opening up with a Alita one figure inside of

it That's awful It's in the refrigerator He was

taking a step further you get a you get a broken

Alita one and then you stick her to a popsicle

stick and then you put her in a thing of water

and then you pull it out and then you stick her

in the freezer and you're like, mmm tastes like

death. Yeah. Oh, that's horrible. You can't fridge

your women. That's not what they're for. There's

better ways to motivate your hero than to kill

them and put them in a refrigerator. Well, and

then kill their wives and put them in a refrigerator.

Well, and then people were mad. They're like.

So Prime killed her and then she's like, when

it's the AllSpark moment, she's floating up to

him. She's like, don't worry, my love. It's fine.

I, you know, I'm sorry. Blah, blah, blah. I'll

be one with the AllSpark, but it turns out actually

she wasn't because it's on another planet starving.

Yeah. Wait a minute. You can't be here. You're

somewhere else. As far as just complaining that

it was starved for up and that's the other thing

that kind of bothered me It's like wait a minute

now. So the also caramel isn't like heaven. It's

a cannibal. Yeah, it's like a chud It's like

I can't listen to our spark It's rampage. Yeah

Your sparks I'm putting that that idea as much

I mean, you know, I think that that's where my

that's where the plot hole started here It's

like wait a minute, you know, you have this all

-powerful MacGuffin, and yet it's like, oh, I'm

starving because I don't have the guts of Transformers

to feed from. It's like, wait a minute, what?

A vampire? I'm putting the link to that tweet

in the chat right now. That was hilarious. The

refrigerator? Yes. Feast upon your own twisted

spark. Yeah. It's just crazy. It's like a two

second clip. It's nothing long or anything. She's

in the box. It's in the box. Nice fridge. You

know what? If we only had a little more Kevin

Smith involved, we could have had Mark Hamill

as a Megatron. Just throwing that out there.

You know what? I'm fine. I like I like our Megatron

in Starscream. Yeah. No, I mean Beast Wars Megatron.

Oh, oh imagine Mark Hamill is Beast Wars Megatron.

Oh Yes, it is you Megatron my namesake That would

have been epic honestly, I got chills right there.

Yeah, I would have taken that I would have taken

I would have been fine with it cuz at least it

would have been like He's got some like cojones

behind the voice like rabbit's eyes there. But

at least at least if he's like a sniveling idiot

after like with, you know, because like he does

have his moments where he's like, do what I say

or you die. And then like there's, you know,

somebody argues with him and then he just chomps

him apart. Yeah. I just chomps him. There was

some chomping apart. And I'm like, is he going

against character here or are they trying to

show range? I'm not sure. I think I think they

were just trying to show that he has capability

of, you know, actually doing some damage. This

is why he's the leader, because he can run in

there and eat people. And then you get primal

using his swords and then using a pistol, but

not his shoulder cannons or his hand cannons.

Yeah, the arm cannons really, I think is his

best weapon. Oh, I know. And they didn't use

either. Mm hmm. Well, they didn't have terrors

or waspinators, so they, you know, had no reason

to use it, I guess. Airazor never used her wrist

rockets. I think that's her best weapon. Well,

she spent most of her time in jail and then playing

basically like the character Nix in the comics

to Dinobot. Hey, at least Nix is better flushed

out at this point. I mean, Airazor was just there

to be there. She was like, I'm captured. Would

you save me, Dinobot? Yeah. And then rat traps

like, yeah, keep your shirt on. She meant to

be captured. Yeah. Which oddly, I guess rat trap

meant to be captured as well. I don't know how

that was supposed to pan out, but she meant to

be kept. She's like, look, I'm working here.

This moron's giving me everything I want. And

then rat trap broke his way in. And then. And

then Mirage is like, hey, how you doing? I guess,

you know, I guess I don't need this anymore.

And this decloaks right in front of them and

just like uppercuts him. I was like, OK, that

was pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I think

the only flub with Mirage in the in Kingdom was

the whole Astro train Astro train thing where

they're like, oh, it's it's like a prime problem.

And then his cloak kind of failed. But anyway,

you can if you can. Make yourself look like a

certain character. Couldn't you also cover the

existence of the same character behind you? You

can make him disappear. You'd think, but apparently

not. It'd be a better idea. Yeah, I don't know.

Animation, you know, it would have been cheaper

to make him disappear. Hey, where's that disembodied

voice coming from? Megatron, Galvatron, they

were the same guy. They were all the same. You're

the same. He's like, no, that's not true. That's

impossible. Yeah. So who's ready for bot -bots?

What? No. Oh, that's right. Or bot shots or whatever

it's supposed to be. Isn't that supposed to be

on Netflix and Cartoon Network? I think so. Or

not Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon? Yeah, the Transformers

stuff is moving to Nickelodeon. So what it is,

is I believe it's supposed to hit Netflix first.

Oh, that's nice. And then Nickelodeon. Cool.

And then I've heard that there's another series

that's being developed for Nickelodeon as well,

which means they'll probably actually have a

voice cast and a decent voice director. Because,

you know, they used Rooster Teeth. So. And from

what I've heard, Rooster Teeth hasn't had good

content in years. You know what I wish? I wish

now that E1 has whatever they have in Hasbro

now and Hasbro Studios or whatever the hell.

I honestly wish after watching Kingdom and after

watching Masters of the Universe Revelation,

fuck Rooster Teeth. Use powerhouse animation.

Use the people that power house. So the people

that did Castlevania on Netflix and they did

the new Masters of the Universe revelation. Okay.

I like the animation, honestly. Like I, if they

went that direction, I'd be pretty happy with

it. Yeah. What I liked about the, uh, the He

-Man animation is that they, they tried really

hard early on to mimic the style of the original

cartoon. Yep. And then they kind of progressed

more into a modern. Style yeah, it was very gradual

to your eyes to where you didn't realize it was

happening Yeah, well somebody pointed it out

to me, you know, then I was like, oh, yeah, you

know Yeah, I didn't notice it very perky jerky.

It was very like oh, I'm going to run sideways

and then tumble That's that's kind of weird.

Why would they do that? But it makes sense in

context So, what are you guys excited for Transformers

now that Kingdom is done, now that the War for

Cybertron trilogy is done? Michael? I honestly,

I haven't been following it well enough to know

what's next. I don't even know what direction

they're gonna go. There's nothing announced.

But they left this trilogy open. Yeah, it's like

what would I like to see I'd like to see them,

you know progress in the same style that they're

at now I mean, they've covered a lot of g1 They've

covered a lot of beast wars, but have they done

Transmetals, you know, can you imagine like new

transmetals done in more modern styles? Rumor

has it that those are gonna be in the pipe And

some reissues but of certain Characters and some

new new molds for some previous characters kind

of like what they did with the ravage Yes, that

covert agent ravage. Oh my god. I really like

that. Yeah, I do too. I I really want that that

figure actually Have you actually tried to buy

figures lately? It's really hard. I've gotten

I've I bought Kingdom Megatron back in February

when I saw him the first time And then I've not

seen them in the store since, but I did get,

like, I can find Cheetor, I can find Blackarachnia,

I can find Netflix Cheetor, I can find them everywhere.

I have not seen an Optimus Prime since February.

I have not seen, I haven't seen a Rattrap in

probably about two weeks. I have not seen a Rhinox

since the week it came out, but I bought the

T30, so I didn't have to deal with. That and

plus I heard a lot of complaints and I didn't

like the the hollow points of the others I fixed

the the wobbly leg issue on mine, too I repainted

part of the figure so that it would match more

the color of the show and then I Clear coated

the figure. Oh Nice and the clear coat sees it.

It's It adds an extra layer to the knee. Yeah,

and it stays in place in the legs So I figured

out that that's my go -to to solidify any of

the joints when they loosen is if I repaint them.

And they won't get paint scratches. No. The other

thing I did is I found when an air razor came

out, I ended up with her. I had to search. Granted,

I have like four targets and four Walmarts within

a 25 minute drive. in any direction. So I hit

all of those up constantly. But I did get DinoBot,

but I had to... I found that one at Walmart just

on a fluke after work. I was just like, oh, let's

check Walmart, see what they got here. And then

I saw DinoBot and I was like, it's mine. And

then they had a ton of them and then I didn't

see them for a while. And then I've seen them

periodically. I'll see like a barrage of them

at... at Target stores, and then I just don't

see them again for a while. I had to special

order at Best Buy, my second one, so I could

repaint it as Grimlock. Oh, nice. I made the

97 Grimlock out of it. Yeah, I haven't found

anything. We've got a couple of Targets and a

couple of Walmarts out here, and I haven't been

specifically shopping, but, you know, when I

visit, I'll go look, and I never see anything

except for the dinosaur skeletons. Yeah, okay,

I'll see those also those were not in the show

I was gonna complain about that I knew that when

I saw him I was like I said I Says people are

gonna be so mad when they discover that all these

are really cool Add -ons to to the show and then

I'm thinking they're not even gonna be in the

show Yeah, and then I was like laughing hysterically

when I saw it and people are like, oh, these

are so awesome. It'd be cool to see them fling

bones around in the screen. And then and then

there's no payoff for it whatsoever. And so here

we have cog and 15 flavors or six shot and 15

flavors. Right. But no, but I don't even know

the bones names. They're like, but I know one

only tracks. OK, there you go. That's it. Sure.

Yeah. Somebody, somebody figured out that they

could make a combiner out of the bones. I saw

a picture. Somebody had five of the paleo tracks

combined into one big velociraptor and it was

amazing. Oh yeah. The, when you combine them,

they're great. When they're separate, they're

not. Um, when they're separate, they remind me

of like, um, Oh, what was the name of the snake

that turns into a transformer? It's like, uh,

you're a stick figure. You know, it's like, what

do you turn it to? I turn it to sticks. Since

I turn into one long stick. My name is stick

figure. What is your stick figure? Optimus, why

won't you let me go into battle? You're going

to make me say it. You turn into a stick. It's

like I have my own weapon he's an he's a target

master except he doesn't shoot you just swing

him at people You turn into a baseball bat Well,

I mean, you know Rung doesn't say go bat. Tell

me you didn't pay money for this. That's right.

I Was going to say, you know rung doesn't really

turn into anything So, you know, let me turn

into a Hosea can say go bat. Thanks. So yeah,

and that's turns into And that's not much of

anything. It's like the Matrix on the end of

it or something. The Matrix of Jose Kinseko.

Yes. Some Transformers god he is. Spoilers. Give

it away. It's IDW if people haven't read it by

now. Because people are just flocking to the

comic books. I mean honestly, if you think that

you know, the current trilogy is like your own

personal G1, then you're not going to have read

the comic books. Yeah, no. Did you see that Hasbro

has so much confidence in their new movie that

they pushed back the date? Yes, it's 2022. Yeah.

Well, it's December 2022 now. Oh, great. Yeah,

they have so much confidence. I wonder if it's

the backlash, the reading. And then they're like,

you know, we might want to rethink this whole

character voice thing And the animation which

is funny because I knew that they were coming

out with all this stuff when I did that panel

in January Yeah, and I went on my soapbox I was

like hardcore in the soapbox about what they

should do with Beast Wars this is why Beast Wars

save transformers 25 years ago and what they

should do about it now and And then I was like

showing the you know, basically what what we

should be seeing like, you know Not not live

the same CGI not you know some of that but you

know giving examples both visually from like

fan stuff that's been created and and like these

these like statues and like, you know, all these

like uber detailed items and I was just like,

you know, this is this is what We need we want

to see this is what we need to see and bring

back the actors and you know and then I says

I just know that Kingdom's gonna butcher it with

With the actors and It came true people were

so amused though in the the discord channel for

the the Convention because it was all online.

They were like this guy's on a soapbox. He's

not wrong, but he's on a soapbox yeah, people

were calling me out for it, but Was right You're

not wrong he's out of line, but he's not wrong

Yeah People thought it was funny anyway, but

yeah, I Found it humorous that I'm like I'm making

the news cuz I'm hilarious and I'm a jerk But

he's but yeah, that's treason He's anti -transformers

get him out of here. Oh, you know, it's just

occurred to me how scary it is that Beast Wars

was 25 years ago. It's like wow And we covered

it like like 12 years ago like we covered it

was it 12 or 15 No, it wasn't 15. We weren't

we didn't even know each other 15 years ago.

It was 11 years ago Yeah, it was 11. It was 2009

2008 no, it had to have been 12 because it was

2009 2010 that started Yeah, anyway, I'll buy

that For a dollar or a dollar I'd buy that for

a dollar I Do highly recommend everybody read

the Beast Wars ongoing that IDW has it is very

good We just released our review of issue number

six so that is happening and after this episode

which is our 13 year anniversary episode. We

will be releasing part one of the top 100 Transformers

characters countdown. So you just said we only

met like 12 years ago, but now this is the 13th

anniversary. I'm confused of this show. It is

the 13th anniversary because Steve started it

in 2008. I started before the network. Yeah.

Oh, this is Pre -Geekcast Radio. Yes. Geekcast

Radio Network started June 1st, 2009. Both All

Things Transformers and TFG -1 started in 2008.

Steve in August and me in December. Interesting.

Yes, we is old. Thank you for the history lesson,

sir. Well, you know, you is old, so there is

that. I respect you, our elders. That's right.

I'm working on it. Far as when we started this,

uh, December 8th, 2009, one year since I started

the, the TFG one podcast. So it was 2009. And

I mean, you know, for me with transformers right

now, like I said, it's all about the comics.

I did enjoy kingdom for what it is. Is it something

I will revisit? for just sheer enjoyment? No,

probably not. I mean, we're going to do a whole

episode on the entire trilogy later this year.

But between the comics, between some of the Funko

pops that are coming out, I know most people

aren't Funko fans, and that's fine. That's, you

know, whatever. Hey, I've got optimus and I've

got Megatron coming and they are both the energy

acts and and and Energy Mace versions from the

first episode. So that's awesome to me. Hey at

least they're not shelf warmers like like super

seven. Yes, exactly. At least they don't much

Jesus Christ Has some and they're like on like

clearance like no other and I'm like, I still

don't want them Well, you know 20 bucks for a

Star Wars styled figure, you know, with four

points of articulation. It's kind of garbage.

Well, I can spend $20 and get the RED figures.

And they come with all kinds of accessories and

they honestly don't look that bad. If it weren't

for the fact they don't transform, I would buy

them. Yeah. Well, they look good on display.

Yeah. And they might actually be worth 20 bucks

versus, you know, the actual transformer. Like

I said, they got that little flying saucer Bumblebee

out now. It's the G one origins the origins bumblebee.

He's like the size He's like a little he's like

a little legend size guy, but they have him in

a regular size box Well, they haven't an ultra

body is like yeah, exactly his entire body takes

up like the the window It's like why they put

him in this big ass box. He's a legend size figure.

It makes absolutely no sense So Target can charge

more and they're not charging 20 bucks for a

guy in a box anymore. They're charging 23 bucks

for a guy in a box now. Yeah, I know. The same

figure costs like seven dollars. Well, actually,

like 10 years ago. But Jesus, it's been a long

time, hasn't it? Yes, yes, it has. I remember

back in the day your Beast Wars figures were

$10 for a regular size guy, the deluxe size.

They didn't call it deluxe size at the time.

It was like five bucks for a basic, which oddly

enough, because I didn't have any basics left.

I went to Michigan in March and my brother, funny

enough, because I only had like three Transformers

at the time. I have probably like two dozen now.

He he had saved because I was over at his house

hanging out while my wife was with one of her

friends locally that lives there and I was hanging

out my brother's like hey you want to see my

transformers collection and he comes over there

and I'm like didn't you I'm like where did you

get that figure from he says oh I you were getting

rid of your collection at some point and so I

asked if I could have it and and I was like oh

okay and so he's like Do you want it back and

I it was the the basic figure iguanas? Mmm. Yeah,

and I was like, yeah I said that thing is awesome

and I was like my my kids were like that was

yours and I and I was like, yeah like 20 years

ago actually looking right at him on my shelf

and I still have them like now I kept it because

of I mean I could have sold it for 20 bucks easy

on eBay, but Which is sad. I'm like your your

fingers go for like quadruple or triple or, you

know, sometimes way more than that. Like if you

look at Transmetal Megatron, even though he's

got gold plastic syndrome. Not mine. Do you have

the Chikara? Huh? You do? Do I have what? The

Chikara version. Oh, no, I don't have the I don't

have the Chikara one. If you like, I would not

attempt to transform your your Hasbro edition.

because those like they I guess the hinges randomly

like sees up and then the the the brown plastic

on him is actually what breaks and then It shatters

like in your hand. I bought one on eBay for like

12 bucks because I was like I Knew it was broken

from the get -go, but I didn't feel bad spending

$12 and a broken figure shipped Yes, I'm like

I'm just gonna customize it paint it and then

leave it in robot mode. Yeah and wait for the

eventual reissue or new mold. Oh, the one arm

was broken when I got it and then the head was

broken when I opened it up and then I attempted

to know what it was as his waist was busted and

then I tried to do surgery on him and then I

shattered both of his arms off. So I was gonna

try and repair it with bolts and I couldn't get

certain part off without extra leverage and self

-destructed. Wow. Just coat that thing in crazy

glue. I did. It will never transform again, but

it is the most secure figure in the world, and

I repainted it to cover up all the crazy glue.

There you go. It's like, bring me the Kragle.

Not the Kragle. So, I know everybody, and I'm

not trying to bring the show down, but I'm making

a point here. Everybody remembers Optimus Scourge,

right? Gary Clark. He did several toy casts with

me and things like that. He was one of the ones

that started it with me. And he had passed away

back in 2011, so it's been 10 years since he

died. In memoriam. Yes, and... Somebody I had

asked somebody because I have to ask people at

times I had asked somebody to get me the nemesis

prime funko pop so I could do a tribute to Gary

coming up in September and funko pops are Four

inches tall so they're basically for you know,

three four five inch, you know variant thing

whatever I generally only collect the regular

ones. I'm sending you guys this image in the

chat here. I most definitely will be selling

the Blu -ray that I can't. Well, maybe I won't

be sending you the image in chat. I don't know

why. There it goes. I will be most definitely

selling the Blu -ray Transformers 35th anniversary

thing I bought because I can't play it on any

technology I have. Yay. That sound wave I just

sent you guys the funko pop 10 inch jumbo sized

sound wave He comes with the four cassettes,

which I assume rumble frenzy rumble Ravage. Yeah,

it's a beak. No, that's not laser beak. That's

buzzsaw. It's a buzzsaw. Yeah rumbles on top

Ravage and and and frenzies on the bottom humble

this red frenzy is blue And whatever so basically

my point in bringing any of this up is the fact

that this is the only fun go pop I will actually

take out of the box and leave out of the box

Because the cassettes fit inside not inside but

on his chest That is so cool. It does look cool.

Yeah, I like the idea that he's a big he's a

you know, big chunky. Yeah Yep I'm just waiting

for them to do a cartoon -accurate red repaint

because I want red eyes sound wave, dammit. I

like yellow. I like yellow, too, but... Toy accuracy.

Yep. Alright, what else do we want to talk about,

guys? What else do we got to talk about? I don't

know. Actually, I don't know a whole lot about

the new movie that's coming out, but I'm assuming

that... I probably know about as much as you

guys do. It's going to have Primal, Rat Trap,

or not Rat Trap, Titor, Rhinox, and Airazor.

Yep. And it's going to have Ron Perlman as the

voice of Primal, supposedly, according to these

outlets. I wouldn't complain about that. That

might do a good job. Better what we got. I'm

from your future. Yeah. I really don't want to

talk like this because that's essentially making

fun of people with Asperger's, but really that's

what it sounded like with a really, really bad

Daffy Duck impression. Well, I think it didn't

help they modulated everything so heavily. There's

a huge difference in vocal modulation and doing

things with, I mean, look at what we got 40 years

ago. Mean you can clearly hear and trust me I've

I've heard because I've listened to all a hundred

not hundred I've listened to all 98 episodes

the original series recently to get clips for

the top 100 characters countdown but you can

clearly hear at times where they Ferbed up the

modulation on sound wave and he clearly sounds

like Frank Welker During Dr. Claw being Dr. Claw

and that modulation is so key to sound wave and

everything else and nowadays It's like you think

with the technology that they have that people

would understand how to do vocal modulation They

should have hired the guys to do the fan dubs

because they were able to duplicate it for the

headmasters fan dub Like perfectly. That's what

auto tuning is for Yeah. Well, these guys, like,

they sing a song. You can do that, too. Yeah.

So I mean, like, these guys know the exact settings

that you need to use. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

Megatron goes, your baby. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.

We're going to we're going to set this to the

tune of vanilla ice and, you know, cut a record

here. Yeah. All right. Speaking of cutting a

record in half. Going from a 78 to a 45 over

here. That was the one. Oh, I thought you were

going toward the one thing that Bumblebee did

in the entire series. Which was what? Bumblebee,

this is rare and very hard to come by. And if

you break it, it's like a one of a kind thing.

It's priceless. I'm going to hand this to you.

And he's like, screw that. We don't need no stinking

disk. What did you do? Yeah, he's like we don't

need no stinkin CD we need flack we need whatever

other Lossless we need we need we need a better

audio format than than CD audio quality You know

and really I thought it was made of certain stuff

No It's not. Shatters. He said sterner stuff.

He did. He almost said diecast. I couldn't get

it out in time. It's a lost art. Stop it. You're

reading my mind. Renox is here to take the low

road. Of course he is. This is the pen the most

humiliating defeat of my entire career Makes

me giggle So yes folks coming up next is the

intro part one to the top 100 Transformers characters

countdown After that, you'll hear part two where

we reveal numbers 100 through 76 Did we? Yeah,

you were on that episode Michael. That's right.

Yeah. Yes. Yes, you're in part two. You're on

176 In part three, you will hear Rodimus Primal

join us for 75 to 51. In part four, you will

hear Lady Rek as she joined us for 50 to 26.

And in part five, hopefully, if the Decepticon

toasters don't get him, you'll hear DJ Valentine

from Simplistic Reviews as the guest host. Once

again, thank you to everybody, all 33 establishments,

people, podcasts, everybody that contributed

to making our Top 100 Transformers Characters

Countdown Master List. Anything else you want

to say, Steve, before one of us closes this thing

out? I don't know who's doing that. No, you can

close it out. Okay, good. You take the honors.

Oh, yay. You get the lower road today. Twelve

years in the making, after six Top 100 Countdowns,

the Geekcast Radio Network, along with 33 participants,

are launching our Top 100 Transformers Characters

Countdown, August 8th, 2021. 35 years after Transformers

The Movie was released. Don't be the only con

left out of this one, folks. Because, really,

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updates. Steve, what about you? They can find

me on the Twitters. At SCP -21. And that other

guy, too. That, you know, fake purplehead guy.

That Barney guy. Barney Wars Megatron. Barney

Wars Megatron? That's right. Isn't that you,

right? BW underscore Megatron. That's you on

Twitter, right? I think it's... Is it BWTF underscore

Megatron? Don't know it's I'm pretty sure it

is I'd have to look You don't even know what

your own Twitter accounts are anymore. I got

so many of them right now. I know right I know

Yeah, I got yet at BW underscore Megatron or

At BW TF underscore dark glass there you go.

That's what it is We will catch you next time,

folks, as we present to you the GCRN's Top 100

Transformers Characters Countdown. Till all are

one, till all are gone. And, uh, yeah, somebody

go get him a Matrix. Where the devil is my rubber

ducky? Yes. It's under your tail fin in your

tub. Why you looking, yo? I just know that's

where it is. You sitting on it. If you sitting,

you spinning. Kid!