All Things Transformers

Favorite Cartoons from the 1960s to Today

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About this Episode

Host Michael Blanchard, Mike "Birdman" Dodd, and Steve "Megatron" Phillips share their top ten lists of favorite cartoons from the 1960s through the 2000s. The group discusses the decline of Saturday morning cartoon blocks, the importance of animation styles, and their strong opinions on modern DC animated projects like Batman: The Brave and the Bold. They also explore the nostalgia of shows like Transformers, Voltron, Looney Tunes, and X-Men, alongside their thoughts on collecting classic animation on DVD.

Hello and welcome to the TFG1 podcast supplemental

episode for the all cartoon episode recorded

January 30th 2009 My name is Michael Blanchard,

and I will be your host in this supplemental

episode. I will be discussing all things cartoon

From stuff from the 60s, 70s, and 80s to the

90s cartoons to the cartoons of today. I will

be joined by Mike the Birdman Dodd from This

Week in Geek and Stephen C Phillips of FredaconEmpire

.com in two separate clips. Please tune in. from

the cartoons that we discussed from way back

when, from the 1960s to the 1980s. Have a listen.

From days of long ago, from uncharted regions

of the universe, comes a legend. The legend of

Voltron, defender of the universe. A mighty robot,

loved by good, feared by evil. As Voltron's legend

grew, peace settled across the galaxy. On planet

Earth, a galaxy alliance was formed. Together

with the good planets of the solar system, they

maintained peace throughout the universe. Until

a new horrible menace threatened the galaxy.

Voltron was needed once more. This is the story

of the super force of Space Explorers. specially

trained and sent by the Alliance to bring back

Voltron, Defender of the Universe. Transformers!

Transformers! joined by Mike the Birdman Dodd

from This Week in Geek and all the other crap

that he does. Unfortunately, because of scheduling

conflicts, there will be two different clips

in this supplemental all -cartoon episode, just

as there were in the TFG One podcast episode

four. So hello, Mike. Hey, how's it going, man?

It's going. You won't sound too good, buddy.

You all right? Oh, actually, yeah. I just kind

of realized how much I kind of do sound like

shit, actually. Wow. in this I wanted to do this

from hearing a Couple of other podcasts do it

and I just put together a giant list and I picked

Top ten of like back then like from 60s to the

80s and then top ten Like most recent years like

from 90s until now and then I did two lists of

top five honorable mentions of each one of them

Just because you you're under time constraints.

I'm just gonna go through the lists and we can

just talk about them as we as they go along uh...

see my top ten all -time back then would be number

ten would be garfield and friends nine is uh...

mask eight is looney tunes seven is tom and jerry

six is a pup named scooby -doo five is thundercats

Four is Teenager Ninja Turtles. Three is Voltron.

Two is He -Man and She -Ra. Yes, I cheated. I

picked two. And number one, of course, is Transformers.

What would yours be for all time back then? For

all time back then, I was flexing my timelines

a little bit more recent -ish. I went with HBO's

Spawn as my number 10. I went with... Duckman,

which I think was done by the USA Network. Yes,

it was. Transformers Generation 1. Animaniacs.

Fox's Dog City. Never heard of it. Really good

show. Really funny, too. Goof Troop. Darkwing

Duck. Ninja Turtles. Spider -Man, the animated

series that was done by Fox. Yep. And my number

one all time back then cartoon was the X -Men

cartoon in the 90s. once again by fox yeah yeah

uh... actually there is a news item on tv shows

on dvd dot com yesterday uh... that disney apparently

has fessed up to owning the rights to x -men

and they are releasing two volumes uh... of on

dvd of the cartoon noted it's not known what

episodes are going to be on it on the each volume

but it's gonna be released i think in april i

think it's april twenty -eight well about god

damn time It's funny people are saying that and

I understand that but I looked on on the UK version

of Amazon and they actually have season one volume

one and volume two You can import them. I don't

know how good they are or not, but but yeah I

wish that they would just do complete series

with those shows like with x -men and spider

-man and iron -man all the other Marvel cartoons

I never really got into like I could not I I

hate the Hulk I hate it. The whole was pretty

fucking stupid. It fucking sucked. I wasn't a

huge fan of the Fantastic Four one either. I

didn't like that either, no. Reed Richards was

goofy. Well, you know, it was the 90s. My top

ten all -time recent years cartoons, number ten

was The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3. 9

is Batman Beyond. Oops, that says R. That's not

supposed to say R. Number 8 is Darkwing Duck.

Number 7 is Animaniacs. Number 6 is Tiny Turn

Adventures. Number 5 is The Legend of Zelda.

Number 4 is Batman the Animated Series. Number

3 is Spider -Man. 2 is X -Men. And again, I cheated.

Justice League and Justice League Unlimited considering

they are basically the same show even though

they were released at two different DVD releases.

What would yours be for... for recent well you

can mix -mash them but do you have a a separate

list yes uh... now for mine i had x -men evolution

i thought i wasn't a huge fan of the animation

style but i thought a lot of the voice acting

was actually top -notch yeah uh... the new t

-shirt ninja turtles cartoon i thought that was

actually surprisingly good This is a cartoon

you may not have heard of I saw it on teletune

in Canada and this might have been on MTV animation

I think it was called the oblongs. I've heard

of it, but I don't think I've ever actually watched

it It was surprisingly decent actually then I

went with ah the mr. Hell show I know I've never

heard of that. That's a Canadian thing right

there. No, that's actually UK actually Okay,

well it was something that wasn't released here

as far as I know It was on Comedy Central, but

it was on at really, really weird hours. South

Park, The Boondocks, Dilbert, Spygroove, which

was surprisingly cool, actually. I've never heard

of that. Then there was another show called zero

man, which is pure Canadian Which is which features

Leslie Nielsen Ron McLean Don Cherry and Ryan

Reynolds as bad guys Wow, that's a that's a weird

voice cast. It was really It was tremendously

stupid, but it was actually really great I thought

and then my number one all -time recent years

cartoons was once again MTV animation undergrads

which was the life of three or four college kids

and it was fantastic it is a fucking tragedy

this series did not get picked up for a second

season yeah I think I had seen something about

that show but I never actually watched it I I

vaguely remember hearing the name but I mean

the most thing as far as even though it's it's

not a cartoon but the most thing I remember MTV

for recently anyway was celebrity deathmatch

That was pretty funny actually. Yeah Okay, now

we're gonna go into honorable mentions stuff

that just didn't make the the top ten lists my

back then list for top five is Jamming the holograms.

Don't give me shit. I for some odd reason. I

remember this show I remember watching and I

don't know that was fucking cool. I loved it

I know well at first when I first saw it. I was

like oh my god. They made a show about strippers

cool Number four is Silverhawks number three

is GI Joe both both series that were out in the

80s I think dick did a series and then somebody

else I think there was a Sunbow series and a

DIC series Number two would be the peanut specials

all of them doesn't matter which one it is valentine's

day whatever christmas thanksgiving scrape pumpkin

charlie brown whatever and number one uh... honorable

mention for back then which i'd just actually

realized was rocky in bullwinkle wow i actually

had to cheat and i looked on steve's list that

he sent me because i i was racking my brain before

we get on skype tonight trying to think of what

the hell i could put on the honorable mentions

Wow, well going through my list It's it's a very

eclectic list and it took me a really long time

to figure a lot of these out night number five

pick What's a series called wish kid which was

on CBS in the early 90s late 80s? Featuring McCully

Culkin in a voiceover role. I remember watching

that it was like right after Malone was released

wasn't it? Yep Then before the and then after

that there was the central organization of police

specialists otherwise known as cops friggin fantastic

show never even heard of it Wow, you are pop

culture illiterate The third one was the one

that was based on the ace ventura series, which

was surprisingly well written I thought now I

did I did see a few episodes of that and I thought

it was better than the mask cartoon but at the

same time they both i think i would have them

as my number three choice the second one that

was uh... one called kid in play which is more

or less based on the house party movies yeah

i i do remember those yeah i mean having a kid's

cartoon based on our rated rappers nothing but

smoke dope and drinking To have sex with each

other is is a fabulous idea for a Saturday morning

vehicle Well, the only thing I remember about

the house party movies is I remember at the end

of the house I think it was house party 2's trailer

when one of the black guys comes up at the very

end before you see the the the the The information

about who's in the movie goes. It's one o 'clock.

Do you know where your testicles are? And then

my number one choice, this is a series I couldn't

find a whole lot on, but I loved it. It was called

Bots Master. Do you know that? Do you know that

show? Nope. It was about a kid named Zip Zoolander.

I wish I was making this up. And he had an army

of robots that would help him defeat this other

bad guy. And they would do it using 3D glasses.

And there were different types of robots. There

was like a street team, a construction team,

and they were like, basically, they were like

the Autobots, except they couldn't transform.

I was going to say, it sounds like a generic

non -transforming version of Transformers. More

or less, I'd say that would be a fairly good

way to actually kind of put it in, like, context.

But it was a great show. But it had 3D shit.

Now, another honorable mention, I didn't get

a chance to put into any of my lists, was BattleTech.

Oh, really? Cool shit, man. That was like see

that's a great universe. They need to bring that

series back Yeah, my My top five honorable mentions

for the most recent years number five is Ducktales

and actually the whole Disney afternoon block

Ducktales Darkwing Duck tailspin goof troop all

that stuff was just great The Hulk which even

though I said before I can't stand it it's part

of the marvel universe so iron man iron man the

first season that that ran with that when he

when it showed him like putting the briefcase

down in the thing came down after he steps into

it it actually shows 3d animation of him putting

the suit on and then it shows the regular animation

that that it was on the series and that was pretty

cool um number two and number one I didn't really

watch when they first came out but they just

have to be mentioned. Number two is Powerpuff

Girls and number one is Dexter's Lab. So yeah,

that's my honorable mentions list. Going into

mine, my number five is King of the Hill. This

series has always had a fantastic narrative and

while the series has been... kind of slow and

and plotting at times i thought the writing on

the show has always been really good really well

acted and i really think it deserves a second

chance i mean if you were a fan before give it

another shot it's still on i mean they are still

doing new episodes yeah but it's going to be

ending this season i think oh really supposedly

but a rumor has it abc picked it up but i'm not

100 sure oh Going into my number four choice

robot chicken This show is awesome. I'm actually

interviewing one of the writers of this show

next week on Twitter and then Transformers animated

I can't stand the show but it's a new transformer

series and all things considered it's introducing

this generation of kids to the robots in disguise

and I still think it's better than robots in

disguise I couldn't stand that one see like I

said to you the last time we did an episode when

we did episode four together I never watched

robots in disguise I went from G1 to Beast Wars

to Beast Machines and then now I watched about

three or four episodes of Armada, Energon, and

Cybertron, and that... Nope. And then I skipped

right ahead to Animated. And I was actually watching

a rerun of Animated the other day, and I just

realized how horrible that show is. You see how

far the mighty have fallen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

it's just fucking terrible Going into my number

two choice haven't seen a lot of this show I've

only ever caught five minutes here and five minutes

there, but Sonic X I when when I was still on

my Fox Saturday morning kick when they still

actually had good Saturday morning cartoons I

first caught this because I figured oh they're

gonna bring Sonic back like they had him with

it Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog which we

didn't which isn't on any of our lists But anyway,

so I started watching and watching watching and

just eventually after a while I just stopped

getting interested in anything that was on Fox

on Saturday mornings Absolutely that it's just

It's basically the slow decline of the Saturday

morning cartoon block and that's really unfortunate

because you had a lot of really great You had

a lot of really good Saturday morning blocks

you had CBS's yet NBC's for a while and You even

had one on the u .s .a. network which i can't

recall the name of right now it was uh... answers

i don't have no idea i don't remember that on

saturday morning but i do remember it on weekdays

in the morning it started like six o 'clock it

was on u .s .a.'s morning express or something

it was some sort of suddenly and it had some

time into a animated train Yeah, I remember that

I remember the Clifford cartoon from that the

defenders of the planet and all that stuff, you

know It's weird occasionally you'd find really

good blocks of cartoons in the mornings on other

stations But I forgot to tell you my number one

pick for a most recent for most recent cartoon

Afro samurai. Yes, I had seen that on your list

and I have I've heard of it I've heard of the

video game, but I've never actually watched it.

I'm very picky with my animation styles I am

very very picky like right now I Am trying to

watch Batman the brave and the bold but it is

no Batman the animated series It is no Justice

League It is not those creators that did that

show even though some of the creators that did

those shows are on Batman the brave and the bold

But it just... I just can't watch it. Batman

Brave and the Bold is giving the DC Universe

a kick in the balls. It's fucking Oswald from

Drew Carey. He has no business being Batman Brave

and the Bold. You know the only other thing I

can think of that he played in? It was balls

of fury. No, I never even saw that movie. It

was oh you lucky Fuck was office space. He played

Lawrence the neighbor Peter you know Peter man

check out channel 9 do this chicks got some hot

breasts over here, and it turns out channel 9

was the breast cancer channel You know it's amazing

The best part of Batman Brave and the Bold is

every time I leave the room to go relieve myself.

That's the best part of any show. The only thing,

the only two things I do like about it is I like

how they redid the Batwing and I like how they

did the Batmobile. Other than that, that's it.

But I see where they're going. I see where Warner

Brothers and I see where DC is going with it.

They want, because everything now is Silver Age

comics. You got... The Superman Doomsday movie,

you got Batman Gotham Knight movie, you have

Justice League New Frontier movie, which was

directly taken out of the Silver Age of comics.

I understand where they're going with it. Do

I like it? Fuck no. I would much rather see them

revisit any of those DC animated universe shows,

but whatever. I don't know I'm not particularly

liking where this is all going and even I'll

actually there's one one cartoon I forgot to

mention the new the new spider -man animated

series I've seen two episodes and it's really

friggin cool I've seen three or four but it goes

for me it goes back to the animation style for

me I I'll put it this way, I'm basically stuck

in a time warp. If it's not in the same style

as the original X -Men or the original Spider

-Man or, like I said, the DC animated universe

cartoons, I find it very hard for me to watch.

I'm kind of the same way, like it's so hard to

break out of that established mold of what you

like and don't like, but it's something gonna

be interesting anyway, and I like the way they're

going with it. Yeah. So we're just got to wait

and see what happens when all is said and done

Yeah, it's uh it's just but I mean if you go

back to like shows like I said like x -men x

-men to me now most people I've talked to and

you know whatever have said that the animation

really hasn't held up see I think it has I Mean

I I really think that you know the animation

for spider -man x -men Iron Man has really held

up over time and I know for a fact Batman the

animated series that will always hold up no matter

what The Nintendo cartoons, which I had mentioned

a couple of them. Those are really cool I liked

what I liked what Nintendo and I believe it was

shout factory is the one that released those

DVDs But I don't know what I forget what channel

they were on or who held the rights to them But

Nintendo really did a good thing back in those

days, you know advert, you know making animated

series out of their games that was really really

cool and you know Justice League and Justice

League Unlimited that is the best animation I

have ever seen it just does I mean just the stuff

that they did in those cartoons and the storytelling

and the voice acting was just great Looney Tunes

it I recently had gotten all of the golden collection

DVD sets for Looney Tunes and Looney Tunes was

not for kids Looney Tunes the creators have said

that they made them for themselves It's more

of same thing with peanuts peanuts is not for

kids. It was for adults, which is cool I mean

you know you can kind of get some of the subtext

and plots now that we're we're older and somewhat

more wiser, but Mask was one that I didn't that

I remember watching, but I don't remember everything

about the show I remember it was what was his

name Matt Tracker and a bunch of his buddies

with vehicles that that did a whole bunch of

special powers tight they didn't I don't think

they transformed but it was there was one of

those vehicles I swear to God it was a gun that

shot other I think so yeah I think so I'm not

really sure I don't remember uh... so yeah and

and anything that peter cohen's in is just great

anything doesn't matter what he's doing i don't

care i mean i know this is contradicting myself

when i when i'm talking about specific animation

styles i will watch him voice anything doesn't

matter what it is are alright then mother fucker

have you checked out the my little pony's movie

then no but as you know i know but no i haven't

There is one thing in that movie. My girlfriend

made me watch this. There's one villain, or not

villain, there's a series of people called the

Grundles. Do you know what a Grundle is? No.

I'm not sure I want to know, but go ahead. Do

you know what a Gooch is? Stop making me think,

man. It's the spot between your balls and your

asshole. So my little ponies teamed up with grundles

to defeat something called the schmooze. That

is so fucking wrong. It is the most painful hour

and change of animation. I've ever had to sit

fucking wrong I gotta tell you I have I have

satellite I have direct TV, and I absolutely

love boomerang network. It's just great They

show all the old classic cartoons Tom and Jerry

huckleberry hound top cat They even show pound

puppies, and I haven't seen pounds in forever

She dastardly and mutley wacky races Hong Kong

fooey all these really old classic the Flintstones

the Jetsons all these classic cartoons And it

is just great and it's like 24 hours a day nothing

but cartoons And I love it, but I think going

back to what you said about the death of Saturday

morning cartoons The problem is those networks

Cartoon Network and boomerang even though I like

boomerang. That's the problem cartoon Saturday

morning cartoons were for the syndicated broadcast

networks NBC ABC CBS Fox you know WBCW whatever

the hell it is now whatever you know that's what

those are for that's what those were for and

now with Cartoon Network and and and everything

else out there freaking teletune up in Canada

and everything else you know that that's why

the death of Saturday morning cartoons has come

along is because all the regular networks are

putting on news specials and stuff There's no

money in Saturday mornings anymore. I think because

of the internet. Yeah, that's why watch it Why

why sit in front of your TV when you get it downloaded

or stream it? Whatever you want Don't even get

me started on the subject of streaming because

as much as I watch some YouTube clips YouTube

video clips watching cartoons on YouTube is like

sticking your hand in a pickle jar and having

somebody bite it off I mean, you know it It's

just ridiculous. I would much rather have a DVD

set of a cartoon than have to resort to watching

it on YouTube. But if the DVD isn't made available,

it's a good substitute. I guess. I mean... Don't

know I don't think we're ever gonna see a renaissance

era of cartoons and live -action TV like we're

we're not gonna see another saved by the bell

or Captain Planet and the soldiers of the future

or Even another, you know Disney afternoon because

I'm sorry the current Disney cartoons Suck. I'm

not precisely sure why they suck. They just do

Think animation sadly enough may be on its way

out unless it's on a special channel I was gonna

say don't say that statement the way that you

were gonna say it until you added specialty channel

as far as the current Disney cartoons the only

one that I can really really watch and kind of

alright and Enjoy is probably Kim possible. That's

it I'm kind of liking the Weekenders and recess

recess was cool even Even those are kind of recess

was cool, and I have watched the replacements

a couple of times, but I mean I don't know there

there never will be another Ducktales or Darkwing

Duck or Goof Troop which sucks and Even occasionally

when a classic show gets remade case in point

I saw one episode of this and that was more than

enough to scar me the lunatic showed you know

Fucking Daffy Duck in space with a knife? Are

you kidding me? I saw this show, I was flipping

through the channels one day, and I'm thinking,

all right, what's this? And then I realized it

was Daffy Duck. And it was literally blasphemy.

Like, I thought I died and went to hell, and

this was my punishment. And it was friggin' terrible,

and... I guess the thing I did like about it

is they took them way out of their natural element.

Now, Tiny Toon Adventures was okay, because that

was fine. That's what it did. That's what it

was supposed to do. Well, Tiny Toons, it wasn't

even really out of their element. Tiny Toons

was... They had the original Looney Tunes cast

of characters as teachers at Acme Lu. And then

they had all these new characters that were based

on the originals, sort of, but they had their

own personalities. I mean... You know, it wasn't

like a straight ripoff or it wasn't a bad ripoff.

It just kind of flowed. And what I do like...

It was good. Well, yeah, it was good. One that

neither one of us mentioned, which I don't really...

I don't mind watching the segment on Animaniacs,

but I will never buy the DVD sets of Pinky and

the Brain because I like both the characters.

I really do, but I just would not watch the show.

I just see I was I was kind of the same way But

I caught a few episodes here and there and sometimes

they were exceptionally good Sometimes like a

lot of pink in the brain. I found was a lot of

hit yes Yeah, well you know after you know so

many episodes of schemes that failed it did they

ever succeed at all in any episode several Several

times, but the plan would always end up screwing

up due to some little detail that they forgot

or some Yeah, I know I know I remember that but

I mean did they ever at all succeed once I Don't

know I haven't seen every episode so I couldn't

tell you But yeah, it it's just a shame now I

know most of the ones that I listed are the ones

that we've talked about majority of the ones

other than the very Abstract and off -the -wall

ones that you listed was you know most of them

are on DVD with the exception of like x -men

Spider -man has a few like Individual yeah, but

nothing that great Actually tiny tunes season

one volume two comes out. I think sometime in

March Because I have season one volume one so

There is a great company that produces a lot

of older cartoons on DVD and it's called show

the factory So if you want to find older cartoons

definitely check them out. They're great people

I believe that website is shout factory calm,

but I couldn't be absolutely sure off the top

of my head But yeah, I guess that pretty much

does it for me, I mean that's all the stuff that

I can think of Besides we don't want you using

your brain too much. It might explode And by

the time this podcast hits the airwaves I'm actually

going on to a movie set in the next couple hours

And then I'm on an all -night shoot I get to

be a zombie and I get to be shot up and exploded

and all sorts of crazy crap if I can I'll post

a video online It should be quite fun. All right.

Well, thanks Mike for for coming on the show

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TFG1 podcast. This is the second clip of the

all -cartoon episode, supplemental. So, yeah,

it's five o 'clock in the fucking morning when

Steve and I are recording this and with me is

Steve slash Megatron from PredaconEmpire .com.

Hello, Steve. Hey, guys. What's going on? Not

much. It's too fucking early. Yes, it is. Way

too fucking early to be doing this shit. Besides

I've been in podcasting hell all weekend Yeah,

I can tell yeah, mr. Mr. Deserter over here for

video games, uh -huh Which one oh, yeah me yeah,

it shows you where my brains at exactly Mike

the bird man died and I did in the first clip

we talked about all our favorite cartoons from

the 60s to the 80s and then from the 90s until

now and Steve and I are gonna do the same thing

seeing as how as we've said when we record this

clip it's like five o 'clock in the morning excuse

it it's just it's too fucking early don't know

why we we're gonna do this to ourselves but I

guess I'm gonna just enjoy being tired Enjoy

being tired my ass. I don't think so. Oh Yeah,

and if and if you people out there hear sipping

sounds it's because I'm trying to wake myself

up with soda So just shut the hell up and just

take it Wow Okay, anyway, so you want to keep

this episode rolling so that we don't get airspace

Well, if you would talk more no yet mister i

want to argue with it well you did screw up those

are as if he's a few times yet i was like it's

a good thing to do i think it's a good uh...

basically i got this idea from i had listened

to uh... an old episode of earth two dot net

the show and they were talking about all their

greatest court you know all your favorite cartoons

and great cartoons and everything else and uh...

I said, oh, that'd be a cool supplemental. So

I just started writing something up and I just

started making a list as I was listening to that

episode of their podcast. And I just started

writing down cartoons and eventually made it

into a few lists. I think we're going to start

this off with my top 10 all time back then, which

back then for me is like from 60 to 90. Anything

before 1990 is old. Number 10 is Garfield and

Friends. Number 9 is Mask. Number 8 is Looney

Tunes. Number 7 is Tom and Jerry. Number 6 is

a pup named Scooby Doo. And yes, it was back

then because it was airing in 1988. Number 5

is Thundercats. Number 4 is Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles. Number 3 is Voltron. Number 2 is He

-Man. And of course, being a Transformers podcast,

number 1 is Transformers. So which one do you

want to talk about first? I don't know just pick

one. Actually I found out because I recently

just got the the Thundercats I've recently just

finished collecting those on DVD. I actually

found out that that was one of the first US Japanimation

shows. They say on the DVD set on some of the

special features that a lot of that animation

in that show was done in Japan. Which doesn't

surprise me, but it kind of did when I first

saw it. I was like, oh wow, that wasn't a U .S.

done show. I mean, I know obviously Voltron,

the original idea for that was a Japanese idea

called Go Lion, but yeah. I think a lot of these

shows... uh... had a lot of impact especially

like transformers and human voltron and undercasts

and all that stuff uh... well they were the uh...

really pioneers of cartoon yeah that's a good

morning that's true too most of the stuff that

comes out nowadays is pretty much uh... it well

yeah it's that is that these retired comedy and

trained to more or less dumbed down you know

with crap that Especially Cartoon Networks throwing

out nowadays. Saturday morning cartoons have

been dead since I would say about 2003. After...

Since Beast Wars and Beast Machines ended, very

much. Well... Yeah, I can kinda agree with that

but I kinda don't because when they brought the

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles back the series

was kinda... It was alright. It wasn't... It

wasn't the 80's series but at least it was something...

better than like all this kitty crap like fucking

Pokemon and Winx Club and whatever the hell else

Fox is running nowadays yeah I have to agree

the new Ninja Turtles is pretty nice it's not

obviously the 80's show but it is a nice follow

up yeah it's something Don't think it's it's

on any of my lists But like the sonic cartoons

were always really cool like the adventures of

Sonic Bedgehog which is now on DVD I believe

and I started what Mike and I talked about this

in the other clip I started watching Sonic X

when I first you know was still watching Saturday

morning cartoons but I've stopped since then

just because I just completely lost interest

Well see I I like the old two Sonic series there

was one where it was like a Adventures of and

there was the one where it was more of a serious

tone kind of like the Darkwing Duck of Sonic

yeah yeah yeah seeing as how Obviously, this

is the TFG1 podcast, and yeah, Transformers would

have to be my number one, only because that's

the one I watch the most, regardless of the fact

that if I wasn't doing the podcast, I would probably

be watching those DVDs, and it's actually funny

that I mentioned to you the other day that I'm

almost done with Season 2, and it actually shocks

me, seeing as how Season 2 was their biggest

season. Give me two DVDs like I'd have to count

them up and that would take you'd have to actually

talk while I count them But yeah, if you want

to just go ahead and do your one of your lists

Go over here and get this other set so Okay,

well Pretty much for my because I have a smaller

list because I obviously didn't follow format

My 1960s on up TV series I'd have to say were

of course Transformers, Inspector Gadget, Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles, Super Mario Brothers 3,

Mega Man, both G .I. Joe shows because one was

run by one studio that did Transformers and then

after that got canned after the direct VHS movie

of G .I. Joe. They had another production company

take it over and kind of completely changed the

format and Think that's about it for my older

ones because a lot of the stuff I liked came

out in the early 90s Yeah, yeah, I just took

both DVD sets and put them back well front to

front and Tried doing the best math I could at

five o 'clock in the morning by counting these

episodes out I believe there was a total number

of 65 episode 65 cartoons in season 2 Because

they split it up into two parts for the DVD release

So I don't know why that they would have done

that but whatever I think it was just to get

cooler artwork, but Yeah They're like I mean,

there's a few of them in my honorable mentions

list, which I'll list later, that I liked. But,

yeah, the cartoons of, I guess you could say,

yesteryear were really great. Mask is one I remember

watching, and I remember having some of the toys,

but I don't, first of all, unfortunately, it's

not on DVD. Unless you get a bootleg, which I

refuse to do. But I think the only thing I remember

about that is the truck in that almost looked

like what Optimus looks like in the movies now.

It was like a nose, it wasn't a flat nose truck,

it was a whatever the hell the other type of

tractor trailer truck is called, I don't remember.

But like Looney Tunes and like especially like

the Peanut Specials and Looney Tunes, those were

not... children's cartoons. I just recently got

the Looney Tunes Golden Collections and the creators

say on there that they made the cartoons for

themselves. So there are a lot of adult themes

in those cartoons. It's just if you're a kid

you don't understand most of it. So it's still

entertaining. I never got the joke about I'm

only three and a half years old. Throughout the

entire Throughout the entirety of those DVDs

that I watched all I watched pretty much all

the cartoons except for the ones I didn't like

Which were mostly the black and white ones that

didn't have Bugs Bunny on them Anyway, oh Going

to recent years my top ten would be the Adventures

of Super Mario Brothers 3 Batman Beyond Darkwing

Duck Animaniacs Tiny Toon Adventures The Legend

of Zelda Batman the animated series spider -man

X -Men and I cheered with my number one. It's

Justice League and Justice League Unlimited technically

They're the same cartoon, but they had different

formats, so whatever Yeah I loved all the Nintendo

stuff all the Nintendo cartoons I could watch

those over and over and over again the only thing

that I cannot watch is those Interstitials in

the Super Mario Brothers Super Show with the

live -action cannot stand some of that stuff

No, I can't stand it either, but it is pretty

fun sometimes But yeah, I just recently because

I got Netflix I'm able to watch all these Nintendo

shows on my blue -grey player and stream it live

from the internet, but I just recently watched

like the first Captain N series which I remember

for some reason watching when I was younger like

probably like a re -release on TV and So I remember

that I remember The Super Mario Brothers show

of course one of the three that were released

and The the Legend of Zelda one. I just got a

hold of and it's not too bad either, but it's

Obviously you can tell it's an 80s show. Well,

yeah early 90s, but yeah Yeah, you know, what

are you gonna do? I think the animation on that

has held up for what it is for the show that

it is It was fairly good animation, and it is

very, very... If you watch that opening title

sequence, it's very, very hard to animate water,

and I think they did a very good job with that

scene where he's shooting the water with his

sword, and of course, he lands on a rock and

she lands in the water. They did that really,

really well. I actually can't watch any of that.

I was actually going to watch some of these,

but I can't because all the DVDs are in the...

are in the new apartment, because I'm still in

the process of fucking moving. X - Joy Joy. Yeah,

really. X -Men and Spider -Man. Until I found

Batman, the animated series, and all the cartoons

that encompass the DC animated universe, X -Men

and Spider -Man and Iron Man were my three favorite

cartoons. As far as the 90s as far as that style

of cartoon in that, you know, the comic book

superhero type thing Yeah, any tunes did a much

better job Mike brought this up in the other

clip. He goes he said He absolutely hates lunatics

unleashed he thinks they fucked over Bugs Bunny

and Daffy Duck and we We were comparing it. We

weren't really comparing it. We were kind of

comparing it to Tiny Tunes, and I said, you know,

Tiny Tunes, even though the Looney Tunes are

in that, there are all, and most of the characters

like Buster and Babs and Plucky Duck and Hampton

Pig, they're based off of the original, but at

least they pay homage. At least they don't put

them in space like the fucking Looney Tix cartoon

did, and they change their names to fucking Ace

Bunny and crap like that. That is just fucking

stupid. Well, I've never seen that actually,

and nor did I ever want to, but I've seen the

DVD box set and like best buy, and never wanted

to pick it up. But I do have to agree with you

on the X -Men, Spider -Man, Iron Man, and I used

to watch those quite frequently until obviously

the Batman animated series came out, the first

one. And that one was, I'd have to say, my favorite

cartoon to come home and see after school, and

one that I couldn't miss. The modern miracles

of DVD releases are just great I have the they

just released Right before Christmas the complete

series what they did was they took All four of

the volume sets that were already released and

just put them into one giant box set with a whole

bunch of cool artwork It's like it's got this

like giant big book 40 page color booklet just

telling you different like production notes and

showing you artwork it also just instead of putting

individual books in each in each volume as far

as saying what's what and what's this and whatever

else it's a giant 40 page book that gives you

all the all the information on what's on the

DVDs and it's just great and there is a a 17th

disc a bonus disc included with it that has a

few special features one of them is a history

of Batman through animation from like 1960 until

now and well I should say until a few years ago

Because thank God it does not have any of the

Batman the brave and the bold crap on it. That's

a that's something I'll get into in a in a second,

but But this set was just it is so cool. It's

so great to have these cartoons on just one giant

set But yeah, Mike and I pretty much trashed

Batman the brave and the bold he said The only

reason why he gets up is to go is to go relieve

himself from watching this cartoon. I can see

that DC and whoever does that, like Warner Brothers

or whoever does their production, whoever comes

up with their ideas, I can see them wanting to

go to the silver age of DC's comics. That's what

they did with like the Justice League new Frontier

movie. Which is fine, but it just, fucking Oswald

from Drew Carey is the voice of Batman. Give

me a fucking break. Diedrich Bader plays Batman

in this cartoon. Like what the fuck? Yeah, definitely

the guy from the Batman animated series would

have to play Batman He's pretty I think his name

is Kevin Connery. I think he I think he pretty

much resembles like the entire or like He is

Batman. I mean the cartoon anyway. Yeah, he's

the best Batman We've gotten so far just like

Mark Hamill is the best. Oh, yeah, it's funny

It's weird that I see Mark Hamill in other series

like he was hobgoblin and spider -man Somehow

that's not no, it's not surprised. It's not surprising

now that I know it but when I first heard his

voice one of his Jet X the the Toon Disney Counterpart

that runs on on the toon Disney Channel on New

Year's Day or on New Year's Day New Year's Eve

New Year's Eve through New Year's Day they ran

all 65 episodes of the spider -man 1994 series

back -to -back it was nothing but a spider -man

marathon and I saw it and I kept watching and

kept watching and I saw how goblin I'm like wait

a second That's the fucking Joker What the fuck

is the joker doing in a spider -man cartoon?

And I looked it up and sure enough Mark Hamill

played played the hobgoblin Yeah You know I looked

up the cast of of the x -men show and they did

not do Anything as far as I can tell I'd have

to look it up again I'm too lazy to do that at

five o 'clock in the morning, but as far as I

can tell they have not been in anything else

Other than that show like I said, I would have

to look it up again But they most of these stars

that do voiceover they will cross over like Michael

Rosenbaum He has been in tons of Different shows

he's been in Justice League just excuse me as

the flash He actually just played What the hell

was the name of the character? He played some

character in Batman brave and the bold and I

don't know what the hell it is from I think what

they're trying to do with Batman the brave and

the bold is gear it more towards kids because

the Batman cartoon was more Adultish and of course,

you know Justice League and all that stuff was

more more adultish and and I don't I think they're

trying to bring it back to a kid level which

is fine, but Like you said, if it isn't Kevin

Conroy, it doesn't fucking matter. And that's

the same way that I feel. That's the same way

I've always felt. Fucking Jeremy Sisto is Batman

in Justice League New Frontier. That was fucking

bullshit. And the thing about Conroy is he does

two different voices for those roles He does

a softer more mellow voice for Bruce Wayne, and

then he does the the Batman voice Which is really

which is really deep gruff and like you know

Do this or I'm gonna kick your ass type of deal

Yeah, so going to honorable mentions Back then

I have and I just cut these to five because it

would take too long I couldn't at the time when

I wrote this up. I couldn't think of ten honorable

mentions Jim and the holograms don't give me

shit I said this on the bird mangle don't give

me shit for some odd reason I remember this show

and the first thing I remember thinking about

it as well They made a cartoon for strippers

Number four is silver hawks. I remember this

show slightly. I don't remember all of it I believe

the first volumes on DVD, but I don't know number

three would be GI Joe both series I didn't I

didn't pick either one I just put GI Joe in a

hole because I remember I remember it just being

one series, but I know that it was made by two

different companies. Number two would be this

peanut specials and number one, I actually cheated

and I looked off somebody else's list and stole

Rocky and Bullwinkle. That's right. Leave me

to do the damn news for the week and that's what

you get. I know. I know. So we're doing the top

ten for memorable mentions for all time? I'm

doing top five. You can do whatever the hell

you want to do, but I'm doing top five because,

like I said, I couldn't think of top ten. Alrighty.

Well, for my top five, I guess I'll do. Oh, wait,

wait. Go back. You didn't do your top ten for

recent years. You just mix you just missed them

Okay, so you just want to go into the honorable

mentions Okay, yeah, that's fine Pretty much

my are we doing like all -time favorites Are

we doing try to try to cut it into the two time

periods try to cut it back? Then to where it's

like nothing before 1990 and then put all the

ones that are 1990 in the recent ones. Okay.

The ones before 1990 I'd have to say would be

pretty much the ones before like the G .I. Joe,

Transformers, Teenage Mutant Turtles, of course

Mega Man because I actually liked that series

a lot considering Mega Man didn't sound like

Mega Mega from like Captain N. Mega hi, that's

the that's the one thing I remember from the

Is Megaman zooming in on some some Amp track

looking thing saying mega hi Hmm yeah, I like

My favorite episode of Mega Man, I'd have to

say, would be the one where Mega Man X actually

shows up. See, it's been so long since I've seen

that show. I would hopefully have to find it

and see if it's on DVD. I don't know if it is

or not. I don't think it is. I've been looking.

Probably not. Just like the G .I. Joe series,

I wish that they had the second half. I think

they got bits and pieces of the first one, but

the second half isn't released. Yeah, the mine

before 1990s I'd have to say would consist of

that list and another big one I used to watch

when I was a kid was Looney Tunes So Looney Tunes

was It was just excellent excellent animation,

and it was just off -the -wall gags I mean anytime

you get Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam in a situation

with each other and Bugs outwits him is just

great. And one of my favorites is the one when

they're on the pirate ship. And Bugs keeps lighting

the match and throwing it down into the explosives

hold. And Sam has to keep going back, don't do

that you darned idiot, next time I ain't going

after it. So Bugs of course lights it and throws

it down and Sam's just standing there tapping

his foot. Seen one down there, boom! He explodes.

I hate you, rabbit. I remember that one. My top

five honorable mentions for most recent, number

five would be DuckTales. I liked it, it was okay,

and I know I'm probably gonna get flack for talking

bad about it, but... I just didn't really get

into it all that much. I did like all of the

Disney afternoon cartoons like DuckTales, Darkwing

Duck, Tailspin, Goof Troop and all that stuff,

but I don't know, DuckTales just sometimes I

had to be in the mood to watch it. Going back

to the Marvel cartoons, The Hulk is number four,

Iron Man is number three. The Hulk cartoon I

cared nothing for. Between the Hulk cartoon,

Avengers, Fantastic Four, none of those appealed

to me at all. Hulk was just... It just oh I can't

even say it just Fucking sucked balls is what

it did, but iron man on the other hand I really

like that if I had if I had to choose the next

DVDs that were released for For Marvel or Disney

or whoever the hell owns the rights to those

it would be the x -men cartoon spider -man and

iron man And then numbers two and one are Cartoon

Network alumnus and the only reason why they're

on here as honorable mentions is because I remember

watching episodes here and there. I did not watch

them faithfully. Number two would be Powerpuff

Girls and number one would be Dexter's Lab. I'm

not giving you a flag because I've seen both.

Well they are both on Boomerang now and that's

the other thing. No, it's not sad. It's good

because at least It's actually sad for the Cartoon

Network channel because they have to now put

shit on there like the amazing misadventures

of flapjack and And whatever else they fucking

shut fucking down What the fuck is that? What

the fuck is that thing? I don't fucking get it.

Oh Yeah, I don't either and I hate how they got

rid of But anyways yeah for my 1990s Honorable

mentions that Were some of my favorite series,

but not among my top five of the decade Because

I have to condense this it's going to be a little

bit difficult, but um I'd have to say I like

the sonic the more serious one Dragon Ball Z

Freakazoid Mutant League, which I don't remember

a whole hell of a lot about but for some reason

I like this show Well, it's based off the Sega

game and at the same time I used to watch it

before it got cancelled and in its place was

replaced or Yeah, replaced replaced Was the power

block with Beast Wars in it So I ended up seeing

Beast Wars by a fluke that Mute League was not

on. So thank goodness for that. And also I'd

have to say like the Marvel block. Yep. One of

the cartoons you did have on your list I was

talking about to you off the air. Reboot the

only reason why I remember that show is because

Tim Curry played the villain he played the voice

of the villain and At first when I first saw

it I didn't really pay any attention to it And

I thought that was the new Transformers cartoon.

I'm like wait a minute It's a bunch of kids running

or it's a bunch of like mini robots running from

this giant thing. What the hell? This can't be

the Transformers cartoon. And then I eventually

found Beast Wars, which I did not keep up with

throughout those years, seeing as how I was moving

around a lot. But they're on DVD, and hopefully

I'll get them for my birthday, but I doubt I

will. Well, just so you know, it's hard to get

that series because they are Rhino released.

Oh, Reboot, yeah. Well, no, I mean, it's not

that hard. depending on the season I had a hard

time like in my local stores I couldn't find

them I bought season 3 actually at Best Buy and

then after that I never saw any of them again

and I had to buy the rest online and then I bought

Beast Machines the complete series online too

but they got a little bit of extras on the discs

and I mean some nice stuff the last time that

I looked on bestbuy .com they were there but

It was either you had to have them shipped to

you or you can only pick up one or two that are

in Because usually what I do with bestbuy .com

is I'll do I'll do in -store pickup because it

saves on the fucking shipping Of course you have

to pay a shitload of cash to get out there, but

It's just easier for me to just you know pick

it up in the store and Last time I looked I think

two out of the three seasons of B stores were

available for pickup, and I don't believe beast

machines was and that's fine as long as as long

as I can get them from target .com or bestbuy

.com that's fine I am not gonna wait so far I

mean obviously it's far far since they've been

released now but I'm not gonna wait much more

much more much longer before I get them because

if I do I guarantee you I'll have to end up paying

three hundred fucking dollars for them like I

did with the G1 series on on Rhino releases Yeah,

there's no way in hell I'm paying that much for

a DVD set. I will find some site that has a discount

on them. Because like I bought, for instance,

ViewStore Season 1 was released at like $54 or

something like that. I bought it online for $30.

For what? Yeah, so I mean, I can find discounts

around there for DVDs. I don't ever buy them

for the store price. Well, I got these off of

eBay, so you know. It was just... I don't know,

I know, but... Well, hell, actually, it was $400

cheaper than getting them on Amazon. I mean,

Amazon had, I think the lowest listing they had

was $700 for all five of these sets. That's fucking

ridiculous. I understand they are very rare,

because they are no longer being printed, but

that's beside the fucking point. Darkwing Duck,

I'm actually planning on getting those as well.

They have two volumes of that on DVD, and I really

like that cartoon. I think the only thing I can

really remember from it is Launch Pad always

crashing. Or, wait... Yeah, I like that series.

That was one of my, I'd have to say, favorite

Disney programs to watch. It was like a Batman

series, but Disney -style. Yeah, I, uh... I think

that is the only Disney afternoon cartoon that

I actually could watch at any time. As I said,

I like Tailspin and Goof Troop and DuckTales,

but it just... Tailspin wore on me really, really

thin. I mean, it was basically Jungle Book with

Planes. That's all it was. Yeah, I like that

series, but I would never sit there and watch

it again. I would probably watch one episode

and be like, OK, I remember this show. Well,

I mean, if it's on TV and there's nothing else

on, yeah, sure, I'll watch it. But Disney's cartoons

nowadays, Mike and I were talking about them

on the other clip. And he is under the impression

that they really suck. And I kind of tend to

agree with him. The only one that I can The only

two or three that I can admittedly admit to watching

is Kim Possible, Recess, and The Replacements.

And I think out of those three, I only watch

Kim Possible the most whenever it's on. But that's

like just channel surfing. If it's on, oh, OK,

it's on. It's not like I know the exact time

when it's going to be on. That was the other

thing with like... Sure you don't. No, I don't

actually. Half the time they're like on like

in the middle of the night, so it doesn't really

matter But that's the other thing weird time

slots for cartoons like I remember I never actually

got to finish an episode of Transformers when

I was younger Never because it was on at fucking

6 o 'clock in the morning, and I had to catch

a bus by 6 30 So yeah, I'm so glad I have these

DVD sets now See I was lucky Beast Wars was on

it. I think 7 630 No, it was on at 630 and I

used to be able to watch it until 7 and then

I'd have to get up and leave by like 730 Yeah,

I remember now that that's right It was rebooting

Beast Wars the reboot went first reboot was on

at 6 and then Beast Wars was on at 7 I suppose

another one that deserves an honorable mention

is Captain Planet, but there are just way too

many bad puns in that show Used to have a pretty

bad one, too. Come on, you know you want to.

Come on, Steve. No, it's alright. You might as

well. It's the all -cartoon episode. I mean,

we can't really embarrass ourselves any more

than we already have. I mean, Christ, Jim and

the holograms, give me a break. It makes me sound

like I'm a freaking stalker. That's exactly why

I'm not mentioning nothing. No, no, I would never

sit there and watch that show Because at the

time I hated anime Shows and besides that I would

never sat through an episode. It just looked

retarded these very tall very light bone skinny

structured girls that could not look like they

couldn't stand up straight and They had these

huge freaking heads Yeah, it was bad. I don't

It was like watching skeletons dance around on

the screen. Oh Yeah, I only That would be another

one that I only caught like one or two episodes

of One show I probably will not get on DVD is

probably pinky in the brain. I don't mind them

having the little segment on it on the Animaniacs

DVDs and cartoons, but I'm I do like the characters

and I like the concept but it just gets old after

a while. I don't think in any of those shows

that were on Animaniacs with them or any of their

own shows that are on the DVDs now, I don't think

they succeeded at all because at some point at

the very ends they would forget some major or

minor detail that would fuck up the entire scheme.

This should have had one where it went into the

future to see how bad playing messed up the timeline.

That would have been cool. Well, I think, uh,

is there anything else going on, anything else

you want to talk about? Um, well, for instance,

my all -time top ten. Oh. Yeah, cause I have

like so many more lists than you do. Exactly

I don't listen but But I'd have to say Beast

Wars and Beast Machines would be up there on

my number one Transformers G1 is number two GI

Joe's number three bet or Mega Man is number

four and Batman the animated series is number

five Those would be my top five of the Between

the 80s to now. That's cool. Yeah, I I didn't

put Beast Wars I was originally going to but

I didn't put any on a list because I only remember

like a total number of four episodes between

Beast Wars and Beast Machines So yeah, I need

to get the DVDs and and and watch those again

Well see what I like about Beast Wars is it starts

off as you think a completely different series

although the intro scene where they crash land

on the planet from episode one is very similar

to G1 which they didn't actually plan because

they never had seen Transformers before and at

the same time this series although they had filler

episodes most of it was building upon a plot

and had a point for the end of each series or

season and It built a lot more character depth

than Yeah, well like I said before as I've been

going through these some of them are Like the

ones that are like the ones were right after

a couple of the three -parters or the two or

three -parters They do get like especially in

season one They continued the storyline pretty

much all the way through the entire series of

season one like at the end of I forget what the

episode is after more than meets the eye part

three and I'm not going back into the crap what

was it oh that's pretty bad shut the hell up

I've been writing I'm already up to episode 13

script damn it I've been watching these cartoons

for the past two and a half months Christ I've

watched over 65 cartoons Well, that's gonna be

the thing with me. I'm gonna have to sit there

and stare at Beast Wars for long ass hours when

we go to that podcast in the future. Yeah. I'll

wait until you get done with this series though.

Yeah, we're not having you produce three podcasts

at once. Producing two at once is hard enough.

Of course, ATTF is, you know, every other week,

but... Or whatever. I feel like releasing an

episode. Oh, when I just take the shit over.

Yeah, because I made show notes ahead of time.

Thank God for that. Although episode 12 for that

will be more of a discussion -based episode,

unless there's serious news. Because considering

it'll be the day before the Super Bowl, so we

won't see any trailers yet. But I mean yeah Beast

Wars I from what I've seen just from Just I don't

understand why that wouldn't be in syndication

somewhere on TV Really I don't understand I mean

because I love to see some of these old programs

going back to what I'm going sorry Well, like

the original Batman series should come back,

the Beast Wars. Although Beast Machines didn't

rate very high, I would like to see that come

back, but after Beast Machines. I'd like to see

the original Transformers and Mega Man and G

.I. Joe come back. Well, now Batman and Superman

and all that stuff is in syndication at some

points on the Jet -X block of... Toon Disney

because I have seen that they brought that back

believe in November of last year It's they're

not off. They're not on that often, but they

are every now and then If you really really really

really want to watch those cartoons, I was just

getting the DVDs I just finished completing my

entire DC animated universe collection with the

Superman the animated series volumes one through

three sets so I have no more DCAU stuff to get

Unless they revisit it and put something else

out But like Going back to Saturday Morning Cartoons,

it was basically, there was cartoons on NBC,

ABC, CBS, and Fox, and at the time WB. Which

at the time was called UPN. It was Fox 50, and

then it was UPN 50, and then it became... The

WB, and now it's the CW. Why not CW? Nothing.

I was just saying, why not the CBW then? Oh,

that's funny. Yeah. See, Beast Wars. Funny. Smartass.

So, what I was trying to say is that... I think

it's great that we have networks like Boomerang

which is through Cartoon Network which shows

all classic cartoons like they show Hong Kong

Fooey on there, they show Secret Squirrel, pretty

much every cartoon that you listed on your list

there that we haven't talked about as far as

like older cartoons. is shown on this network.

They just actually ported over Powerpuff Girls

and Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, oh my god. I

can watch that show every now and then. It just

has to be a really, really good episode. And

not so disgusting. But Cartoon Network has like...

It's just... It's gone downhill so much, and

Saturday, like Saturday morning cartoons, they're

still on, like, the WB network, or CW, or whatever

the fuck you wanna call it, and Fox, but they

suck. I mean, I would much rather sit through

Meet the Press than watch a Saturday morning

cartoon now, and that's fucking wrong. I would

rather pop in a movie DVD or something and just

ignore the fact that Saturdays exist on TV. That

is true. So you got anything else Okay, nothing

I know of well, I think we're gonna close out

this all cartoon episode folks Please join us

next time or join me next time when I'll be reviewing

Five episodes from Transformers generation one

season two. Oh wait. This is the beginning Yeah,

I'll be get I'll be be oh shit. I fucked that

up didn't I folks? Well, you already got an episode

of season no, I know no I don't Yeah Okay, so

season five, okay, so thank you for listening

to the TFG1 podcast. Please tune in next time

when I'll be starting season two of the Generation

1 cartoon with five episodes, those being Autobot

Spike, Changing Gears, City of Steel, Attack

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