Boy Meets World Season 5, Part 1 Review

This is Jason Marsden, the voice of Duke from

G .I. Joe Renegades. You're listening to the

Geekcast Radio Network. It's nice to see father

and son together again, playing a spirited game

of hoops, hmm? You're not happy, are you? For

years now, I have watched you give advice to

everybody, but never me. Why is that? Why? You

don't ask. was supposed to be in college. But

at the first little bump in the road, he comes

running back home and Alan is okay with it. But

you're not? It was hard enough saying goodbye

to Eric. I don't want to do it again. Well, perhaps

Alan just misses. Oh, that's not it. This is

it. He's Eric's father. He's Eric's best friend.

The best friend can't bring himself to say goodbye

and kick Eric out of the nest. Thank you, George.

Well said. I have problems too, you know. is

in the show notes on the website. So check this

out. This is awesome. And get ready as Steve

Megatron and I tackle Boy Meets World Season

5, Part 1. Right after this amazing guitar theme.

Hello and welcome to episode 9 of Podcaster Meets

World, brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network.

I am one of your hosts, TF2 and Mike, and joining

me from some unknown location is Steve Megatron.

Hello, sir. Hello. Wow, it's not as echoey as

it was before. You must really be up on that

mic. Yeah, I'm eating it, practically. Oh, boy.

So today we are going to be tackling on with...

Boy Meets World, and this is Podcaster Meets

World, not to be confused with Pod Meets World.

Pod Meets World is the iHeartRadio show that

Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong, and Wilfried Dell

have started because they are going back and

re -watching basically what this show initially

was supposed to be back in 2016 or 2015 when

we got so incensed that... the top 100 television

countdown we did because Boy Meets World came

in at number 50 out of 100. Originally, this

show was going to take us seven years, and you're

like, yeah, no, let's find another way because

we were going to do episodic like we do all the

other times. And you're like, I can't keep up

with that. I'm like, okay, fine, so let's do

it in seasons. And then I looked at it a little.

I'm like, okay, fine, let's do it in part seasons.

So most of the seasons have. 22, 24. It's weird.

Season, is it season six or seven? One of them,

one of the remaining two we have left to do has

23 and I'm just like, it's breaking my brain.

It's not an even number. Stop it. No, no Jim

Carrey, no number 23. No. So Pod Meets World,

they are doing this episode by episode, and they

are having other interviews with cast members

and production people and everything else. So

I've been listening to this because I find it

hilarious and awesome and funny. And you sent

me, as of this recording, you had sent me a link

on Facebook about... Anthony Tyler Quinn talking

about why he left the show or why whatever, whatever,

whatever. And it was, I think if I remember correctly,

it was a Screen Rant news article. And not that

I don't want to go out to a news article and

look at it. I didn't even click on the news article.

I went to Spotify, grabbed the podcast episode.

He's like, I was like, yes, Steve. I heard it

from the man's mouth. I don't need to read some

news article that is probably going to misquote

the guy. Like go listen to the episode. So, so

yeah, no, absolutely hilarious and fun. And I

I'm, I'm loving listening to that show. If anyone

is a boy meets world girl meets world fan, I

don't know if they are going to do girl meets

world at all. I'm not sure. I hope they do, but

they still have, they just started season two.

So they've got, A number more to go. And we're

almost at the end here in the 30th. And can you

believe it's been 30 years since this show premiered?

I know it's, it's kind of crazy when you think

about it. Yeah. And season five folks is, this

is like season four had a lot of, of emotional

moments, but I think they were still kind of

growing season five, man. They're like full swing.

Senior year of high school, getting ready to

go to college and be adults. No, no, no, don't

touch that door. Corey, we've waited three years

to go through this door. They say the senior

floor is like no other, my Sean. Okay, so let

us, as one, take a moment and savor. Oh, baby.

This is going to be the best year of our lives,

Shawnee. Welcome to the senior floor and the

best year of your life. your seniors we're teachers

i have so much to learn well yeah i mean it's

the senior senior year and i mean of course you

still have phoenix well yeah you're gonna have

phoenix the end of the show but yeah um but yeah

i mean and then and then you have uh you know

eric and that whole dynamic with, with him and

Corey and, you know, and then of course the introduction

of Sean's brother. Yep. Jack Hunter. And yeah,

this was, this was really, really cool. So the

way we're going to do this folks, I tried to

streamline it a little bit. At first I was going

to do some weird thing and then I thought better

of it, but basically we're going to give our

highlights, low lights, and then the lessons

we learned from each of each of the episodes.

So we got 12 episodes here, starting with Season

5, Episode 1, Brothers. First day of college,

and I got no place to stay. Show up at the dorm,

I say, excuse me, ding, ding, front please, Eric

Matthews. I go here, where's my towel, where's

my room? They tell me I'm not on the list. Like

there's a list. Eric. I gave you the forms for

the housing list three months ago. Amy, go easy

on him. Our son had a little mix -up in the housing.

He's home for a visit. Okay. Ooh, got it for

me? This is not a visit. He's back. Why isn't

Mommy happy to see me? I am. It's just sometimes

you scare me. I mean, how are you supposed to

do well in college if you can't even fill out

a housing application? It's all... It's worse

than that. Check the wrong box or another form.

Now I think I'm an Eskimo. And as you mentioned,

Corey is so upset when Eric moves back home that

he vows to find him a place to stay. And this

is kind of the start of where Eric becomes kind

of a moron. He does and he doesn't. He's still

partially there, but he's starting to go that

route. Eric has an interesting journey, I think.

through five, six and seven of the show seasons,

five, six and seven of the show. I mean, he's

highly intelligent, but he, a lot of the things

he does are pretty dumb. Yeah. But there are

moments throughout this season and throughout

the final two seasons that they weren't sure

how, like, it seems to me as someone who watches

the show. They didn't know which way they wanted

to go. They didn't know if they wanted to lean

into full -on lunacy, Eric, like when he becomes

Mr. Squirrels and all of that. I'm sorry. That

was awesome. No, it is. I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm saying they were at a point, at least to

my eyes and ears, with that character. He starts

this where, oh, I got I don't have a dorm because

I didn't, you know, you know, fill out the forms

or I didn't this or I didn't get on the housing.

Like and that's a pretty like some college kids.

Some of us may have done something like that.

But just the way that Will portrays Eric is that

it just I don't know. It is what it is. So they

kind of have him leaning right now on this fence

of either being. comical but serious at the same

time versus going, like I said, full lunacy,

which he does eventually later. And in this episode,

I'm going to ask you, did you and your brothers

ever share a room or anything like that when

you were kids? Or did you all have your own rooms?

Well, I had my own room for a time. And then

there was a time where my middle brother and

I would constantly switch back and forth. which

was a detriment to my parents because it was

supposed to be a punishment, but it ended up

punishing them because whoever ended up with

my youngest brother, it became a clown show.

So, yeah, I mean, I had my own room for a while

and then I didn't and then I did. And then so,

yeah, it was kind of a lot of back and forth.

I did enjoy having my own room. Yes. So for the

audience, it's you. Kevin and Brian. Who is the...

Is Brian the youngest? No, Kevin is. Kevin's

the... Really? Mm -hmm. Wow. That... I... Okay,

then. That's news to me, folks. I've been recording

podcasts with this man for almost 14, 15, 16

years now. I didn't know what the order was.

I knew Steve was the oldest, but... So, yeah.

And, yeah, I couldn't imagine, like... I was

a lonely only child and I was so stingy. I want

this. I was mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine,

you know, all this and all that and whatever

else. And, but I see in the characterization

of Corey where Corey's like, finally, I finally

get to have blah, blah, blah. And, you know,

that's, that's cool. And I love the way that

will. plays Eric with your room, your room. Like,

Oh God. Oh man. So good. So what were your highlights

from brothers? Uh, it, one, it reminds me of

the, the real life brother battles. Um, just,

you know, it's, it's, it's interesting that the

dynamic, you know, and then the fact that, you

know, Eric is kind of like, Oh, I don't want

to move out. I'm moving back in. And then, you

know, Jack Hunter showing up, you know, is, is,

is kind of fun because you learn that it's Sean's

older half brother and Sean doesn't want anything

to do with them. And, and then it's funny cause

Corey introduces, you know, the pair or whatever

tries to fix them up and, you know, they don't

want to live with each other either. And then,

uh, I love the dynamic of how Corey's trying

to pit them so that he can keep his own room.

Yeah, it's very, very cool. It's very, very interesting.

Sadly, it's so great because you have a Lawrence

that isn't that Lawrence, but it's one of those

Lawrences. you know, come from nineties television

and blossom and everything else. It's, you know,

so it's Matthew Lawrence in this. And they, it's

funny because again, talking about Danielle,

Will and writers podcast, they had Matthew Lawrence

on and, uh, very, very, very, everybody go check

out all the interviews on pod meets world. So

cool. Cause we'll never get any of those interviews,

sadly. Uh, but brothers for me, What kind of

struck me was the beginning of the episode. The

senior year. The senior floor. And just all the

stuff that's in there. Imaginations and everything

else. At my high school in Louisville, Kentucky

at the time, we had a senior cafeteria. So that

was the only thing separate for seniors. See,

we didn't have any of that seniors in my school.

Like we we had I mean, my my high school was

different. We had grades seven through 12 in

our school. Oh, yeah. And so nothing like basically

the and then eventually they added sixth grade

and then eventually they took six through eight

out. uh after i graduated but when they they

did introduce sixth grade my brother was old

enough to go and they relegated them to the basement

so they they got put in the basement and they

weren't allowed to come upstairs like they had

to and we weren't allowed to go down there but

it was it was funny because it's like nope we

gotta keep the youngins down in the basement

you know it's like they can't come out to play

you know and so uh it was kind of entertaining

with that but then um as i you know as i got

older I mean, yeah, there were perks to being

a senior, but we didn't have anything special

or separate. It was just we got a little bit

more leeway with our coming and going. Yeah.

And for me, with the senior cafeteria was that

it was basically a separate room that actually

we had stuff like Subway or McDonald's or Domino's

or whatever come in and was just for seniors,

if I remember right. Well, we had lunches where

you could buy Little Caesars. I mean, breadsticks

and pizza. And I loved buying the pizza because

they wrapped it in this plastic wrap. Or not

plastic wrap, but wax paper. I mean, they would

send the whole pizzas to the school and then

they would wrap it at the school. But I don't

know, it condensed them and kept them more fresh.

It was so much better than the pizza that sits

in the box for a while. And so I don't know if

it was just the fact that... I mean, one, I worked

pizza, but two, I just was enamored the fact

that I could go up there and order a breadstick

and a slice of pizza during lunch, even if I

had already had my lunch. There was just something

special about going up there and getting it.

Yeah, absolutely. Do you have any lowlights from

Brothers? Not really. It's, yeah, of course,

like the start of a new season, you're getting,

you know, the dynamic of Eric kind of trying

to figure out where he's going in life. And then,

you know, the plot twist of Jack, which is kind

of the road that they're building for Sean because

they're going to kill off Chet. Oh, of course

you have to say it that way. Great. Well, they

did. He died. I mean, the character died. Yeah.

But I like how they kept bringing him back for

flashbacks. Yeah. Or the ghost scenes. Yes. I

don't have any lowlights for Brothers. I think

it's an interesting start to the season. Like

you said already, they're introducing this whole

new dynamic for Eric and Sean and Jack. It seems

to me that very much it's always kind of been

this way because Eric was the older brother.

You have Eric and everything that he's doing.

And then you have Corey and Topanga and Sean

and all of that and whatever else. And it's so

very, very separate. So, yeah, very, very cool.

Any lessons you learned from this episode? Don't

be in a hurry to ditch your brother. Yeah. Yes.

While it may be nice to have your own room, the

time that you share will never come again. Yeah,

very true. Very true. Very true. I, I, I agree

with yours. I have no specific one for myself

because again, I can't, I mean, Again, it's all

about brothers, and yes, I've had roommates over

the years, and I've met people who eventually

became roommates, whatever else, and we were

friends for a while, but only while we were roommates,

and those people have since left my life over

the years. But it's like, I don't know, there's

nothing in this episode for me to drag out a

lesson. So the next episode is... About to do

laundry. Unsupervised. Hello. Do you know where

your story is? I don't know how water will shrink.

I should be there to talk him through this. He's

an idiot. Cut the cord. Guys, this is Eric. His

real name is Larry. He's my best friend Barbie's

brother. But around us, he's Eric. Come on, Teddy.

Come on, please. He almost Eric so much, I hired

Larry to be Eric. That's ridiculous. Does he

play basketball? Hi, Mom. Daddy. Who are you?

Eric. Who are you? Eric. Welcome. Hey, I'm going

to need some more clothes. No kidding. Oh, Corey,

question. You know Sean better than anybody else.

What is wrong with him? Why can't he get along

with Jack? I'll talk to him. Well, you better

get over there because you're going to kill each

other. Boy meets real world. It's a good thing.

We're not obnoxious though. Yeah. So the only

time this wasn't obnoxious is when Corey finally

realized that he can't just stay behind the camera.

So they tried doing certain things throughout

the series so far. Like, they've tried to have

things stick. Like, if a character was going

to have a catchphrase or something, or if a character

was going to, like Will, doing a certain facial

tick with Eric or something. They've had things

that they've tried over the years. And now here,

what they're trying, and I don't like it, is

they're trying to mimic other shows. And they

do it a lot in, I want to say, this season. Mm

-hmm. Yeah. So, it's, yeah, this is not, like,

if I was giving single episode grades, I would

probably just, not for the lessons that are behind

it, but for the overall way that it's being told.

Like, Boy Meets World is the real, like, oh,

and they even call it out in the episode. Oh,

it's kind of like that show on MTV, The Real

World. And I'm like, zero. I wouldn't give it

a zero, but what I like is how we get to the

point of Sean and Jack's relate, like how, how

they, Oh, he's, he's my half brother. He's this,

he's that he left my dad. He did this. He did

that, you know, all this and all that. Look who's

here. The documentary man. South Philly, making

movies. Yeah, I figured you'd be here. Gosh,

I haven't been here since you moved to the trailer

park. Yeah. You know, Jack lived here too. Although

I'm sure he's forgotten. So why don't you start

rolling that thing and we'll finish your movie.

No. No, I'm... I'm not here for that. That's

not important anymore. It is to me. I've got

something to say. Turn around. I was seven when

my dad first told me that I had a brother. You

know, I always wanted a brother. I wondered what

he looked like, if he'd like me, if he even knew

about me. When I was ten, I finally got the courage

to write Jack a letter telling him all about

me. I didn't get an answer. But I kept writing

to him because he was my brother. And I must

have sent him like 15 letters and I never got

a single thing back. So I knew that he didn't

want to have anything to do with me. And he still

doesn't. I never got any letters. What are you

doing here? My mom must have thrown them away

without showing them to me. I don't believe that.

You're ashamed of me. You always were. Sean.

Let me go. No. You're not listening to him, okay?

Now listen to what he has to say. Don't get in

the middle of this. The problem is, Sean, I didn't

get in the middle of this in the beginning. You

were behind your camera from the beginning. I

didn't realize what was going on. Listen, it's

not about my film anymore. It's still personal

now. It's your life. Give it a happy ending,

okay? We get to a point where they're, I guess,

on the streets of Philadelphia, where it was

Sean and Jack's and Chet's old place that they

used to live, which, to my knowledge, had never

been brought up before, which is fine, and that's

great, but we finally get to the point of Sean...

You know, saying I used to write my brother every

day because I want to know what it felt like

to have a brother. And I never got a single.

And, you know, we turn around and we see Jack.

Oh, I never got the letters. My mom must have

not shown them to me. So I like that aspect of

it. I just think it sucks that they have to put

it in the context of trying to rip off the real

world. Yeah. And then and then you start to see,

you know, that. some of the the frustration between

sean and jack and you know the things that you

know like the letters and and stuff like that

and so you you start to feel for the characters

because you know one's genuine and the other

one's not you know or is the genuine thing the

other one is is purposely trying to mess with

them and yeah it's you know and it turns out

it's you know the parents yeah yeah They both

wanted to know each other, and this was their

opportunity to finally make it happen. Yep. Yeah.

And I got to say, for two episodes this season,

my highlight... Replacement Eric? No! I love

that Morgan did that, but no, they started throwing

in more quirky things like that, you know? Yeah.

And, and so it's just, it's, it's really funny

how they keep doing it through the series as

it goes, but it all, it centers around Eric.

Yes. No, but for, for two of these episodes,

and this is one specifically is Paul Gleason

is, is Vernon from breakfast club. And the dean

from not a great actor, Paul Gleason. He was

Clarence Beeks in Trading Places. And was he

Clarence Beeks? Yes, I think that's what his

name was, right? Yeah, Clarence Beeks. Yeah.

Whatever happened to Beeks? We don't know. And

he ended up in the ape costume and all that stuff.

I just want to go to college. I just want to

do the work. I like you too much to let you do

that. Odeen. Not now. Okay. He's going to love

this. Odeen. You don't listen, do you? Jack,

pal. What? Bow your head. Sir, I'd actually just

like to discuss with you a paper that we're writing

and perhaps even establish the type of relationship

I had with my former mentor, Mr. Feeney. You

know the kind of people that have mentors? People

who can't think for themselves. Weak people.

You're in college now, buddy boy. The big leagues,

the show. I've got over 25 ,000 students in this

university, and each one of them lined up to

kiss my dean butt. Looking for an easy way. But

I'm going to tell you something. The only easy

way is the hard way. You don't say much, pretty

boy? I'm very scared, sir. Good. That's how I

became the dean. We are so in. But, you know,

everybody knows who Paul Gleason is, and I'm

looking through the man's filmography, and I'm

just like, oh, my God, he has been in so much.

Like, his career kind of, okay, his debut was

in Panic in Year Zero in 1962 as an uncredited

acting and film debut. But basically from trading

places till when he passed, because sadly he's

no longer with us. He hasn't been with us for,

I'm trying to remember, when he passed away in

2006. Wow. I thought it was a lot later than

that. I thought so too. I could have sworn I

saw him in stuff later, but evidently not. Yeah,

not. But seeing him here as the Dean, it's not

technically the same character as Breakfast Club,

but it's similar along those lines. And I just

thought that was so hilarious and so interesting.

Hi, Dean. It's about time. How did you get in

here? It's after hours. This building is locked.

You're trespassing. You know that. You're violating

my personal property. I can have you both shock

-therapied. Look, Dean, we really need that extension.

In my entire 27 -year dean career, which spans

five colleges on three continents, including

China... I gotta say, besides the overall theming

of this episode for lowlights for me, though,

is that even though we finally get to a point

where they get the truth from each other, but

the constant assumptions of Sean towards Jack

and Jack even tells him. It gets a little old.

Yeah, it gets a little old. And it's one of those

things where, you know, Jack even breaks it down

to him and look, yeah, my stepfather had money.

I didn't, you know. I've worked for everything

I've got. I pay for college on my own. I've,

you know, I'm doing this on my own. So technically

I was sort of just like you on my own kind of

thing. And, you know, so we get that. And, but

up until that point, it's like, oh man, Sean,

come on. A lesson for this from you. I don't,

I don't really know. I mean, other than, you

know, don't more so be a friend and listen instead

of purposely try to like, Corey was just kind

of a hindrance all episode with the camera and,

and not, he was totally oblivious to the conflict

happening before him and instead was focused

on him. Yeah. Himself. And, and in doing so had

caused a bigger rift between the brothers and

himself with them. And had to kind of learn,

you know, hey, that's, you know, go back to normal.

That's, you know, forget the camera. That's work

this out. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right there with you.

And the thing of it is, is between Corey and

Sean, they both learn lessons. And the lesson,

like you said, is all of that. And this was,

I believe, the soft debut of Angela Moore with

Trina McGee Davis as Angela in this. So we kind

of get her introduction a little bit. And the

Dean really doesn't show up until the next two

episodes. I thought he was in this one. No, he's

in It's Not You, It's Me and Fraternity Row.

Oh, that's right. And he delivers one of the

best lines in that one, though. So it's not you,

it's me. After Sean and Corey agree to attend

the same college, Sean learns Corey's made interview

plans on his own, and then the two decide it's

time to go their separate ways. Meanwhile, Eric

thinks befriending the dean will be okay. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. I remember this now. Yep, yep. Yeah.

And man, who that, like, I've never heard of

the kid actors that they cast as the younger

versions of, of Corey Topanga and, and Sean,

but they kind of hit the nail on the head. With

those kid actor, like the kind of look like the,

the, the, the young Corey definitely had a bigger

Brillo head than he has now. Sean has the leather

jacket and the kind of attitude and Topanga is

a little bit more innocent and not so flowery,

but she's, you know, and that's the thing with

her character. They kind of moved her away from

being the hippie girl. Yep. They moved her away

from being the kind of hippie. 1960s -ish type

character to more modern and more outgoing and

less weird. Yep. Probably because they were trying

to, one, make her evolve, and two, make her more

relatable. I should. Those guys say that you

live in a trailer park and I shouldn't like you.

Oh well, if you want to have lunch with me, I'll

be right here. Hey Topanga, look, I'm a llama.

Look, I'm a... It was fun. My name's Cory. I'm

Sean. Hi, I'm Topanga. The wife. I'm sorry I

didn't have lunch with you. My friends were wrong.

They're not even my friends. I'll be your friend.

Really? Just promise me when we grow up you won't

go to college and leave me. Okay. Friends forever?

Forever. Your boys. Yeah, absolutely. So the

whole point of this one episode is that ever

since they were all kids, Corey and Sean were

supposed to go to college together. And, you

know, and what I love about this is that, you

know, Corey says, oh, I've only been putting

letters out. And then you, you know, you turn

around, Topanga's like, oh, well, I applied to

Yale. And he like, spins on his you applied to

where like i like that whole juxtaposition of

how he and sean are dealing with it and how sean

believes that sean isn't smart enough or doesn't

have enough money to go to college to pay for

the the education or whatever else whereas does

cory really like what surprises me about some

of these conversations is that I think Topanga

is one of the three that only mentions that she

may or may not have a scholarship somewhere.

These guys are fairly smart, at least for every

single class that Feeney has taught them for

the last 12 years. Okay, yes, there was Mr. Turner

and I don't even remember. Mr. Williams was Alex

Desert's character. That's right. But he was

only media arts at the time. But yeah, Mr. Turner's

gone. Mr. Turner left at the beginning of the

season kind of thing. Obviously, the last time

we saw him was his motorcycle accident that happened.

But yeah, it surprises me that none of them mention

trying to get scholarships or trying to go through

the whole thing of financial aid for school.

None of that is brought up to mind. And I've

watched these episodes at least four times before

we did this episode of the show. So, I don't

know. Yeah, and the episode's kind of funny because

you get Sean and Corey arguing just based on

the college thing through the whole episode.

And you start to see a little bit of smart but

stupid Eric in this one, more so. Yeah. And the

more he's around Jack, the more they try and

make Jack look smart, although he's dumb in other

areas. Yeah. And so they're both dumb, but in

different areas from each other. And then probably

the dumbest thing is trying to befriend the dean.

Yeah. Because Eric is just like, well, I was

friends with Feeney this whole time. Why can't

I be friends with him? I mean, it's sound logic,

I guess, but not really. Because he even goes

after he gets shut down by the new dean, he goes

and talks to Feeney about it. Because Feeney

is his friend. And because at this point... See,

and again, I know Eric is supposed to be the

older brother, but... I don't remember if his...

If Corey and Sean are graduating now, Eric should

have already been out. The fact that Eric is

having to apply for housing at Pembroke... He's

the older brother. He should either already be

in college. Like, that's what confuses me about

this part of the show. As we're transitioning

from Corey and Sean's senior year into them going

into college, it makes it sound like Eric is

also finally getting into college. Like, obviously,

he got held back a year or two, but he was never

in any of their classes. The other four seasons

of the show so far have always shown Eric. doing

other things or like there was no senior year

display for, for Eric. So it's like, what's the

timeline here? I don't understand like how, yeah,

it's confusing. So, okay. So any low lights from

it's not you, it's me. Not really. I mean, other

than it's kind of, I mean, this season they start

playing more of the boohoo, Sean. Yep. And it's,

kind of grating the more it happens um and it's

no it's no knock against the actor because he's

just i mean he plays it really well it's it's

the fact that the writers keep bringing up the

same trope over and over and i get that like

you know people in those situations they're you

know everybody has different problems in life

in different situations my issue with it is that

it takes a long time for him to realize he has

to pick himself up to get out of the situation

that he's in and not just sit in it. Yeah. Yeah.

It does take him a while and it just, it's, it's

kind of sad. And I, I mean, I don't know if they

initially planned it to be like that because

we still have obviously another half of this

season and then the other two seasons left. But

like, There's so much that happens to Sean throughout

these last three seasons that it's just maybe

the slowness of this has to be because of what

eventually he'll go through later. I don't know.

And so part two to this sort of is fraternity

row. It isn't a part two, but fraternity row

is the fourth episode after a 10. Yeah, it basically

is. After attending a college class and engaging

in a winning debate with a professor, an empowered

Sean neglects high school tasks in favor of collegiate

ones and gets suspended. Meanwhile, Eric firms

his own fraternity, Magnum Pi. Now, see, I laughed

at that. Because they had the shirt facing away

from him, and he was trying to figure out the

name of it, and he's like, Magnum Pi. And then

you see the shirt Magnum PI and yeah, it was,

I don't know. It was funny. I, I, I, while I

do find new Eric kind of dumb in a lot of areas,

he's also brilliant in a lot of areas because

one, he's, he's either copying different stuff,

you know, like, uh, there's an episode where

they, and it's later, but, uh, where they do

the Truman show and he's self directing and he's

acting like, um, at Harris. Yeah. And, you know,

there's situations like that. But, I mean, he's

got so many fun, interesting dynamics, you know,

like where he pulls the wig off and, you know,

he's got the different hair. So, I mean, I do

enjoy it, even though some of it's a little played

out for how dumb he's supposed to be. But I do

love the games that he does. Yeah. And, again,

this is my thing of I don't think that he is.

as dumb as he gets later, like he goes into this

high functioning dumb assery later, you know,

to become Mr. Squirrels and all of that. So I

think that, again, this is that mix of them trying

to figure out, do we make him smart? Do we make

him this? Do we make him that? And it works for,

for the most part. And I like, like I was, I

went to community college for about, half a semester.

And my biggest problem with college besides the

financial aid and all that and everything else

was at that time back in the 90s, because I graduated

high school in 99, went into college fall of

99, whatever. And like back then, I don't know

if it is the same today. Math and I are opposite

ends of the earth. like arch enemies to each

other. I just can't, can't deal. And by the time,

you know, you get to college level math, it's

algebra and calculus and trigonometry. And I'm

like, I just can't even do that. So it's like,

you know, so I eventually ended up going to the

workforce after, after trying and sort of succeeding

the first half of the community college that

I went to. So I never really had this whole college.

dorm room like campus lifestyle kind of thing

and i never really i've never been a partier

anyways so the whole pledging to a fraternity

i never had any interest in any of that stuff

but i find this episode hilarious with fraternity

row because they both both eric and jack end

up in dresses well and then they they do the

whole love boat thing you guys They do the whole

love boat thing and the dean even goes. Yeah.

Well, they do the whole love boat thing because

they have guest stars, Bernie Coppell and Ted

Lang as themselves. And it wasn't until I'm like,

Bernie Coppell. I'm like, wait a minute. I know.

Oh, he was Siegfried. I'm like, oh, yes, he was

an agent of chaos. where I know him from was

the Don Adams get smart. Now that's a podcast

we should do at some point, not a full on roof,

but just an episode of like studio, just going

back and watching some of, Oh, get smart. Love

that show. Uh, fraternity row. I'm not sure if

there are lessons here. I, I get, okay. Not with

Eric and Jack with Sean. There probably is because

Sean even, and the funny thing is, The guy who

will, because I don't think he was at this time,

but the actor who will eventually become the

character of Angela's dad is the professor at

the college in this episode that Sean goes to.

I'm like, wait a minute. What's Angela's dad

doing here so early? Hi, Sean. Come down here.

I saved a seat for you. No. Why don't you come

on and sit in the back? You, stop talking and

take a seat down here. When we left off yesterday,

we were analyzing French philosopher Jacques

Bourdon's paradox. A hungry dog is placed an

equal distance between two bowls containing equal

amounts of food. Which does he choose? Not me,

not me. Jennifer. Bourdon concluded that the

dog would starve to death, implying that we can

only choose that which our reason tells us is

the greater good. Refute this argument using

dialectic reasoning. You. Well, I think the dog

would choose the food on the right. That's one

way to go. Why not the left? Okay, the left.

It doesn't really matter. I mean, anybody would

eat something before they starve to death. Did

the rest of you see what he just did there? He

skipped right ahead to Schopenhauer's theory

that the will to live is the predominant human

trait. Name? Sean. Nonlinear thinking. Wow. Schopenhauer.

That's like graduate level. Really? I like the

way your mind works. Free will. Want to take

a shot? Do I really have a choice? Ooh, I got

to take five. So the fact that Sean likes and

is interested and wants to do the college stuff

and he doesn't want to do is because I think

that for the most part, he's kind of skipped

his way through the basics. he's kind of skipped

his way through Feeney's lessons, not just in

this specific episode, but throughout his entirety

of being Feeney's student. He's done the work,

but he's done it to a point of just to do it

and not really to learn the basic lesson of sentence

structure or grammar or punctuation or all of

that. And he realizes by the time we get to college

that you're supposed to already know all that

stuff. So yeah. What about lessons for you? I,

yeah, it was kind of hard pressed other than,

you know, Sean kind of realizing. Yeah. Um, but

yeah, I, and also not trying to pretend you're

something you're not. Yeah. There's always that.

Absolutely. Yes. And then we get to the fifth

episode of season five, an episode that I wish

I could completely skip. Look, I'm sorry I had

a bad night, but I got Millie out there. Ooh,

what matters? I'll go say hello. Hi, Millie.

You know, I'm really glad you and Jack hooked

up. He doesn't have a lot of friends here. It's

very important for me to have Jack. Don't get

in my way. You know, Jack, I'm really glad you

met somebody, but don't you find her a little

freaky? I don't even care who's guest starring

or special guest starring. Like, just completely...

This was... I've been trying to defend the whole

Eric characterization choices as far as saying

that they don't know which way they... Oh, they

went away with him here. Oh, man. Like, the witches

of... I hated this episode, to be honest. I'm

right there with you. I could do without it.

I'm fine not covering it other than the fact

that they got DJ to play Millie. Yep. Yep. They

got Candace Cameron Bure to play Millie. And

then they have this is kind of the ABC crossover

stuff kind of coming in at the end of the episode.

They have Melissa Joan Hart as Sabrina. But.

I'm just like, nope. Yeah. It makes no... So,

okay. It's not you, it's me as characterization.

Fraternity Row is seeing about how college life

is. We go from Fraternity Row to The Witches

of Pembroke and I get... Oh, that's why. Dumbass.

Guess when this episode aired? Halloween? October

31st, 1997. That's why this episode is here where

it is. It sucks being where it is because of

like, I can see this as like a one -off comedy

thing, but we're trying to learn about it. I

understand Boy Meets World is a family comedy

and everything else, but like. It's also a show

that takes, you know, family television very,

very seriously. We're seeing all these transitions

from all these characters, from Eric to Corey

to Sean to even Morgan as she's growing up, even

though we don't see Morgan as much. And, yeah,

no, we're skipping the Halloween episode, folks.

No guts, no Corey, Season 5, Episode 6. Those

darn hippies. They talk about free love, then

they want me to chip in for gas, like I got a

wallet. Hypocrites. And so, the United States

entered World War II on December 7th, 1941. As

FDR said, a day that will live in infamy. I want

to thank those of you who brought in some of

your family mementos. It helped to show that

this war was not just a point in history, but

an event that touched all our lives. Thank you.

Hey, listen, can I see that picture of your grandparents

again? Sure. Wow. They look very much in love.

Yeah, they still are. You know, he asked her

to marry him on December 7th, 1941. Wait, I know

that date. Help me out here. Pearl Harbor, the

day that we'll live in infamy. Feeney was just

talking about it. You listen to Feeney. Oh, my

God. I listen to Feeney. And this is another

weird one. It's another weird one. Well, they

kind of continued because they had Sabrina and

now they have. Yeah, it's yeah, it's well, it's

a. crossover so this episode is part two of a

time travel themed crossover with Sabrina the

Teenage Witch which started with you wish and

Teen Angel that begins on uh in a gata Sabrina

and it continues on genie without a cause and

concludes on one dog night I kind of I don't

know I think I like this simply because of the

time period Well, not even that. I think I like

this specifically because of Salem. Specifically

because of Nick Baquet, who plays the voice of

Salem. Well, and you have Maurice LaMarche as

the narrator. Yep. Yep, that is awesome as well.

And, yeah, but the time period piece, like, I

don't know. I didn't mind it because I liked

it. First half of the episode, or first half.

But, I mean, overall, it's not bad. It's not

one of my favorites, but it's an interesting

take regardless because, I mean, Corey loses

his memory and, you know, it's kind of showing

that, you know, he'll... It's a very Disney trope.

Yeah. But, you know, it just shows that, you

know, he would find his true love when Topanga

kisses him. Yeah, it's one of those things where,

again, you have, it's so, this season is so weird.

You have four episodes in a row that are all

character building in various ways. And then

you have The Witches of Pembroke and then No

Guts, No Cory. Witches of Pembroke is essentially

completely forgettable for the most part as far

as plot line and storyline of the characters.

Makes sense. The No Guts, No Cory episode makes

sense with, you know, him having to perform duty

and go to World War II and go fight and this,

that, and the other thing. And the whole, oh,

Sean, you should marry Topanga and blah, blah,

blah. At the end of it, though, it's like, I

don't know. It's just weird. But, yeah, Salem.

Gotta love Salem. All right, so season five,

episode seven, I love you, Donna Karan. What

does Topanga mean about me being afraid to commit?

You know, most relationships don't work out,

and I just want to get out before anyone gets

hurt, okay? Sean, we just want you to be happy.

Hey, look, somebody left their purse. Hey, Mr.

Feeney, we found this purse. Who runs the Lost

and Found? I do, Mr. Matthews. I teach English,

history, and film, and I run the Lost and Found.

We'll put up a notice. Would you? Maybe you should

go through it and see if there's any ID. No,

not gonna. I once went through my mom's purse.

Yeah, I can't look at her anymore. Okay, stand

back. I'm going in. Okay, no wallet, no ID. Well,

there's got to be something in there that lets

us know who she is, right? Lip gloss. She cares

about her lips. Kiwi mango. No way. Kiwi mango.

That is so sexy. Do you know that the Ted Koppel

show called that the lip gloss of forbidden love?

And look at this, a book of sonnets. Ah, Shakespeare.

I hear he's good. Notice the bookmark. A ticket

stub to a Van Damme movie. Only the greatest

actor ever made. Okay, so all we got here is

a purse -losing, lips -protecting, poetry -reading,

Van Damme -loving gal. I'd give her two weeks.

Sean's steadfast rule of dating girls only for

a fixed two -week period leads him to break up

with Angela, and then he finds himself falling

in love. with the owner of a lost purse he finds,

since the contents indicate that she is the girl

of his dreams. Meanwhile, Eric studies for a

test with the help of an invisible Mr. Feeny,

while Jack wonders about Eric's sanity. I loved

that. Yeah, me too. The invisible Feeny. I don't

know, something about it, it was just entertaining.

Absolutely. So this is another two -parter because

this is I Love You, Donna Karan, and then we

have Chasing Angela next. But we're going to

focus on I Love You, Donna Karan first. I love

this episode because I love that we're finally

getting Sean and Angela. We're getting the beginnings

of that and all of that. I think that's great.

I just love that he finally wants to change his...

dating habits, his, you know, just the way that

he is, the way that he's always been, because

Sean has always been to the point of relationships

don't last. His mom left him, his dad left him,

this left him that, you know, he's always getting

left kind of thing. So that's what, you know,

through his younger years and now teen years

and, and getting to the point of becoming a high

school graduate. He's getting to the point of,

oh, you know, two week rule. That's it. It was

fun while it lasted and blah, blah, blah. No,

no real emotion. No real this. No real that.

In walks Angela. And, you know, I should say

in walks Angela's stuff inside some. That's that

was the funny thing to me. That was I'm like,

oh, OK, we think it's her purse. It's her stuff

and some other girl's. I'm like, oh, wow. Okay,

well then. But no, that was hilarious. But no,

I love these two episodes here. But I love you,

Donna Karan. What's weird is that I think Corey

starts wearing the Kiwi Mango lipstick, even

though Sean likes it for it being Angela's. Corey

starts wearing it, and Topanga kisses him, and

she's like, oh, what's that? It's Kiwi Manga.

I'm like, oh, Corey. Oh, Corey. Oh, Lord. Yeah,

there are a lot of things in this to love. Again,

finally, like we were just mentioning about the

character progression kind of going a little

slow. Well, now the character progression of

Sean, of him growing up a little more easily

and a little bit faster, starts in... in this

episode. And it's so fun. What are your thoughts?

I, I was entertained mostly by the stuff with

Eric. Okay. Talk about that. Cause I didn't talk

about that. Yeah. I love the fact that he's trying

to take this big test in college and, and wants

Feeney's help. But Feeney's like, you know, you,

you can do it. You already know how I've, you

know, I've prepared you. And then he starts having

these hallucinations of Feeney. in just casual

clothes just showing up randomly and talking

to him and jack giving him this look and he's

like no phoenix right here and then jack like

is convinced by the end of it and is trying to

talk to to phoenix but he doesn't have his own

personal phoenix in his head and and phoenix

eventually you know imaginary phoenix goes and

he's like oh i'm going on vacation he's like

you can't leave Yeah, it's so funny. And it's

a way for Bill Daniels and for Will Friedle to

have fun and do something as the characters.

And again, it's still teaching Eric a lesson

of... He already possesses the knowledge he needs.

Because Feeney already gave it to him or he learned

it from Feeney kind of thing. And, yeah, absolutely.

But, yeah, and, you know, the lessons on this

are, you know, like we kind of already mentioned

that, you know, Corey, Eric already has the knowledge.

Sean is finally kind of, you know, realizing

that he can have nice things and this, that,

and everything else and trying to get to know

somebody. And it does. kind of leave it. Like

I said, this is a two -parter kind of thing,

so... I'm pretty sure I said Corey. And I also

made us reservations at, uh, Borelli's. Wasn't

it our anniversary last month? No, no, no. We

were just doubling with my parents. It was their

anniversary. Okay, wait. So when's ours? It's

Wednesday. How come Janitor Bud knows our anniversary?

Oh, no, no. That's Sean. He's hiding from Angela.

Oh, that is so sweet. It's like everything I

have ever known about girls has been completely

erased from my brain. Hello, sir. See? I know

that was wrong. Sean, listen. You've got to pull

yourself together. All my life, I have never

worried about whether a girl likes me or not.

But with Angela, it matters. I really want her

to like me. That is so cute. Personally, I worship

the man. It's a little sad. Well, here she comes

again. Why don't you talk to her? I don't think

so. Hey, Sean. Hi. Do you want to go out and

get something to eat later? I'd like that. Oh,

I saw this and I thought of you. See ya. What's

he give you? It's a little seashell. Do you like

seashells? I like this one. Getting into episode

eight, which is chasing Angela, an eager Corey

encourages Sean to consider the same type of

long -term relationship he has with Topanga with

Angela, except that the two of them start not

to get along so well. Meanwhile, Jack and Eric

are nervous about hosting Thanksgiving dinner

for the Matthews family at their new apartment.

A pumpkin pie with the hard bones? Let's see.

Call in the caterers. Your parents are expecting

some traditional feast. Oh, my parents? Come

on. Thanksgiving's like the least important day

of the year to them. They don't even exchange

gifts. Hey, Jack. Hey, Eric. Hey, I know you

guys are busy, so I'm going to get right into

this. Thanksgiving is the most important day

of the year to me. I'm sure Eric told you that.

No, no, he didn't. Yeah, I did, Daddy. Here's

what he wants to hear. 30 years ago, I sat down

to Thanksgiving dinner with my grandpa, Charlie.

We feasted on turkey, stuffing, cranberries,

yams, and pie. Then we sat down. I watched my

first football game on TV, sitting on my grandpa's

knee. He gave me this watch. And then he went

upstairs to take a little nap and died in his

sleep. I miss Grandpa Charlie. Three days till

turkey. Oh, boy. So, yeah, as this progresses,

we have Sean and Angela kind of coming together

and kind of doing all of that. getting to know

each other and we figure out the purse mystery

that Angela was just borrowing the purse. I don't

understand. I don't know. It's a whole thing,

folks. It's very teenage. Yeah. Like the emotional

rollercoaster and stuff. Yeah. And then doing

the... the restaurant, the fancy restaurant and

everything else. Yeah. I don't know. It was,

it was entertaining, but it's not one that I

really cared all that much for. It's, I care

about it because it's again, the continuation

of Sean and Angela as they kind of start with

their relationship. But again, you're chasing,

you know, chasing Angela, chasing Amy, whatever

kind of thing. It's one of those things where.

Sean has always said that he wants what Corey

and Topanga have. No couple on this earth, fictitious

or reality, are going to have what is written

up for Corey and Topanga. No. Wow, toupee. Sorry,

Topanga. Wrong canyon. It's one of those things

where that's part of Sean's character is he wants

what they have and he's trying to get it with

Angela. Whereas he then finds out she's fine

with just burgers and fries at Chubby's or whatever,

you know, whatever it is that they just, you

know, whatever it is they decide to go. I like

it. I think it's fun. Again, I think it's the

start. It's like the second date kind of thing.

It is what it is. They're trying to learn about

each other. And hell, even Topanga doesn't want

half the stuff that Corey dreams up for her.

Anniversary of what? It's the anniversary of

the anniversary. I'm like, oh God, Corey, come

on, dude. Lessons for this one is, I guess, just

kind of... Kind of just be real. Be authentic.

Don't try that hard. I mean, obviously try hard,

but not try that hard. No, put in effort, but

don't overdo it. Don't plan the next 50 years

of your life and then, you know, whatever. The

other part that we do need to bring up in all

of this is Jack and Eric, because they do attempt

to do Thanksgiving dinner on their own. And then

by the end of it, we all see them all kind of

together because. And I love Alan in this. William

Russ is just so great as Alan. This is the most

important. Thanksgiving is the most important.

Oh, Alan, you're just throwing it on there thick.

And they're under all this pressure. And then

at the end, we have everybody pitching in. I

believe even Morgan shows up with them. So very,

very, very, very cool. So we get to episode nine.

We're almost done with the first half of the

season, folks. Episode nine. It is all about

how to succeed in business. And. You know that.

is exactly the type of behavior that is going

to get you fired from the work -study program.

Nobody gets fired from the work -study program.

Let's try and have a good time. They're not paying

us to have a good time. Corey, they're not paying

us at all, which is exactly why the CEO of this

company is going to get a photocopy of my butt.

They're paying us in experience. Working in the

mailroom? You know, a lot of people in this company

started in the mailroom. I began right where

you're standing, 43 years ago. You see that?

And where do you work now? Right where you're

standing. Move. 43 years, but the same company.

Wow. You must really love advertising. Advertising?

Is that what they do here? I remember watching

this episode, I think, when it aired. I had seen

most of these when they aired. I remember watching

this as it aired. I watched it obviously again

for this, but this is not only like Corey and

Sean, you know, going for this work, you know,

again, it's another one of those high school

co -op or work study or whatever, where you get

to go to, you know, part of your day is school

and then the rest of your day is going to a job

kind of thing. And you have Corey and Sean going

to the same job and. Sean, what are you doing?

Hey, I may not know much about business, but

I do know that when a phone rings, you answer

it. Hello, Keller Marsden. Uh, nope. I don't

see him. Can I help you? Sean, hang up the phone.

Hang up! What are you yelling for? Oh, my God,

there's yelling. Yell back! If you were supposed

to have it today, and it's not there, don't you

think that we have a very good reason? Mr. Beck,

we weren't going to send those ads out until

they were perfect. Uh -huh. You'll have them

Monday. No, no. Thank you, Mr. Becker. Who are

you? His name is George Feeney. Sean Hunter.

Work -study program. Who are you? Tom Morris,

Vice President, Keller Marston Advertising. Oh.

You just got a phone call. I heard. I like the

way you handled Becker. Turns out... Sean is

more successful at the work study jobs than Corey

is. And he's a whiz at public relations while

Corey gets stuck in the mail room. Actually,

he gets stuck as a janitor after he gets fired.

Well, it kind of shows you that you are not your

circumstances. Yeah, absolutely. And this one

is also when Eric says something to Amy. about

doing something with her life, about doing something.

Like, she's raised her children. Like, yes, she

still has Morgan, but Corey is, you know, graduating

high school. Eric is already in college kind

of thing. And he basically encourages her to

go back to school, and Amy ends up in the same

creative writing class as Eric. And Amy does

some very real -world creative writing. Oh, yeah,

it's creative. Well, it's based on reality. So,

you know, at least reality of the series of,

you know, how she felt when she was, you know,

first dating Alan and marriage and giving birth

to Eric and Eric throughout all of this is like,

I can't hear this. It's so good. Next, we will

hear from Amy. A young married woman by Emmie

Matthews. Oh, this is great. A thousand words

on dryer lint. The wedding was over. I was 19

and about to embark on a new life. The hotel

suite was as lovely as a picture. Alan walked

toward me and I began to tremble. Oh, my God.

My lips. So, so good. All right. Any lessons

out of how to succeed in business? Again, I think,

I think it's just trying to stand out, but being

authentic to who you are and, and you're not

cut out for every type of situation. Yep. Yeah,

absolutely. And then we go to the last, no, not

the last thing. Yeah. Last tango in Philly. Yep.

Why didn't she just say so? Women, man, they

speak in code. So Angela and Topanga get jobs

at a Mexican restaurant and they start dancing

right away with two handsome, suave co -workers

and Corey and Sean are... Loco with jealousy

on this, and soon they, along with Alan, Eric,

Jack, and Mr. Feeney, try to figure out the hidden

meaning behind women's words. Dun, dun, dun.

This was good. This was fun. This was interesting,

because I like all of the men of the show kind

of getting together and trying to figure this

all out. And you would think that Feeney would

have some sort of answer for this, and I'm glad

that he just, like, nope, no clue. Hey, guys.

Angela doesn't even get me. It's like Topanga

and me are speaking different languages. Well,

one thing's obvious. It's not us. It's them.

Oh, now, wait a minute. Maybe we should all just

think a second. No, Sean and I tried that. It

doesn't work. Okay, I've been silent long enough.

Guys have been working on a theory. Men are idiots.

What? No, wait, there's more. All right, there

it is. Men are big idiots. See that? So what

do we do? You know, maybe we should just try

listening to it. The boom boom room. Yeah. El

Coyote. The Coyote? Yep. Sergio and Nunzio. Yeah,

Sergio and Nunzio. That's crazy. But, yeah, I

mean, I like this one. I think it's fun. Again,

I'm wanting more of the growth storyline for

them. But, I mean, they have to. Corey and Sean

have to grow within their relationships. Like,

they can't. get this jealous all the time when

the girls aren't even doing anything no but there

was the other thing too like it's it's very much

of male and female brain not being on the same

wavelength um because the men don't see a problem

with certain things or think that their gift

or what they did is is just fine and then the

women have a totally different perspective on

it which is why Corey and Sean are offended by

their going dancing because they don't want to.

And then Alan, you know, angering Amy and then

Feeney not understanding that he's being hit

on. And Eric has to be like, Hey dude. Uh huh.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because Feeney and

Eric, you know, they just, they work well together.

You have this highly intelligent man in this

guy that is seemingly an idiot, but he's, you

know, with people, he knows people. Yep. Yeah,

absolutely. And, It's just one of those episodes

where it's like, okay. Again, it's a learning

episode. It's a teaching episode. It's an episode,

like you already mentioned, about the sexes and

all that and how everyone approaches it differently

kind of thing. And, yeah, I like this one. I

think it's fun. Since the beginning of time,

men have been idiots. This will make up for it.

I think it's good. I think the first half of

Season 5 is... It's a mixed bag, but it's a mixed

bag in a way where you think you're expecting

one thing, but you get another that is actually

better. You know what I mean? Like, take out

the episodes that we don't really need in there,

like the crossovers and things like that, and...

Boy, I mean, it's real world. Ugh. Just the overall

premise of... It's interesting how we've gotten

to this point. We get to the penultimate episode

of this first half with a very Topanga Christmas.

Corey wonders if he's being henpecked when Topanga

spends the holidays with the Matthews family

and takes charge of the festivities. Corey plans

to surprise Topanga, who's spending Christmas

at his house, with a promise ring that means

they'll be together forever. Dun, dun, dun. But

he's unnerved by the moments of doubt when, after

learning that he and Topanga, who have so much

in common, have very different holiday traditions,

she drinks cider rather than eggnog, she prefers

fresh -cut tree to an aluminum one, and she opens

gifts on Christmas Eve, not in the morning. When

it seemed unwilling to compromise, Corey had

serious misgivings about the ring and their future.

Hi, guys. Thanks for letting me spend Christmas

with you. My parents went on a cruise to Barbados,

but I told them, no, I wanted to spend Christmas

with Corey. Hey, why don't we toast to Banga's

first Matthew's Christmas with some of my special

eggnog? There you are. This is really good. Have

you guys ever tried hot mold cider? No. Nog.

We're an eggnog family. Wait, this is tradition.

I would never want to interfere with tradition.

It's just that, you know, my family's always

had cider. Well, we could have both, huh? Your

seniors in high school. Well, and you've got

to remember, too, I mean, it's that teenage mentality,

but also because they've not lived together.

They have no idea what they're getting in for.

Yeah, exactly. And, you know, they kind of joke.

It kind of comes more at the other half of the

season. But they kind of joke about, oh, we've

been married for 15 years already. You know,

because they've been in love since they were

five or whatever it is kind of thing. And you're

right. They don't know what it's like to live

with each other because they haven't yet. Nor

should they unless they, you know, unless they

want to, unless whatever. But, yeah, like. And

that's the whole thing about relationships is

that you don't – and we'll say this much, much

later when we get to part two of season five.

You don't want to date the same person as – you

don't want to date yourself. What's the point

in dating if you're going to date yourself? You

can just be with yourself. So having those differences

and – If you like them, you like them. If you

don't, like, if you like eggnog, fine. If I don't

like cider, fine. Whatever it is, you know, we'll

just kind of deal with it, I guess. Any other

things on Christmas for you? Just seeing the

difference in traditions and seeing that, you

know, everything's not what it seems. until you

kind of get in the thick of it. And also if something

bothers you, talk about it. Don't just run. Don't

let it fester. Yeah. Don't run. Don't let it

fester. I mean, give each other space and time

if you, if the person needs it, but don't let

it just sit there. Yeah. And yeah, the same thing

for me. Just don't, that's the biggest thing.

Like you said, the lesson here is just talk about

your stuff with each other. And then ending out

part one is episode 12, Raging Corey. Corey gets

so upset that Alan engages only in conversation

with him, but plays sports with Eric, and then

he knocks Alan down. So Alan and Eric kidnap

Corey and take him skydiving. Afterward, Corey

feels better, but now Eric, myth that he and

his dad rarely have meaningful conversations.

Oh, boy. You know, that's all our relationship

is. That's not like him and Eric. They do stuff

together. Well, I want to do stuff, too. I never

want to talk to him again. You're coming with

us. Can we talk about this? Okay! You successfully

completed the ground course! Welcome to your

first job! Yeah! I actually, I wasn't paying

attention on the ground, and I feel I shouldn't

be allowed up here. No, I love it. It's the drama.

You know, like, will the chute open or will it

not? This isn't fair. When you hit the ground,

you were not 10 ,000 feet above it. Corey, you

know, this is something Eric and I have been

talking about doing. There's no reason you shouldn't

be a part of it. So this isn't because I pushed

you down? Well, yes, it is, because you pushed

me down. You know, if you're that upset about

something, I have to take a hard look at what

I'm doing wrong. Well, I just feel like I want

to do things with you, not just talk about stuff.

Well, Cory, I don't do things with Eric because

I don't want to do them with you. It's just the

way Eric and I relate. Yeah, Dad just doesn't

look at you as much in Action Adventure, guys.

He looks at me, Cory. It takes real guts just

to get up here in the first place. You did good.

You don't want to have to jump. You don't have

to. No, no, no. If this is what you guys do,

I'm with you guys. Okay, Cory, that's great.

If you want to jump with us, then you jump. Or

if you want to... by basketball or baseball or

whatever, I'll be there. But just promise me

one thing. I don't want to lose that part of

our relationship that I consider most special.

What? What? What? A relationship! What part is

special? I love when we talk! Again, I remember

this one like it was yesterday. Oh, man. This

one's fun. Yeah, this one is so good. Go ahead.

What do you like about it? What are your highlights?

Well, I like the fact that they, you know, Corey

is, you know, I don't like the fact that he shoves

his dad down. But, you know, Alan sees, you know,

that his son's upset. And so, like, I love the

kidnapping part of Eric and Alan. and then taking

him into the plane and then cory's like first

one to jump out like in his like spastic manner

and then alan doesn't want to talk to eric because

eric's spazzing out and in the plane like i want

more and he's like what and he's like i want

more and he's like sorry can't hear you jumps

out of the plane like he's like hey don't come

out you know don't run away from me while i'm

talking to you and then it jumps out too and

then you know they they get back and then eric

basically does the same thing. And then they

go to the art museum and then to see Eric explain

about art and what he likes about it and certain

things. It was just kind of interesting to see

the dynamic flip. And then of course you get

Jack and Sean trying to coexist. Not exactly

working, is it? No. It's so interesting, the

dynamic that Alan has with each of his sons.

And, you know, like I've already mentioned, one

is older, one is younger, one is this, one is

that. They're so very dear that he doesn't have

the same relationship with each of them. And

like you already said about, you know. Eric's

like, you'd rather jump out of a plane than talk

to me. Oh, no, I tripped. You hit the ground

running. Like, you know. I like that Eric is

smarter in this episode just because he's thinking

deeper. I do love the quotes that the Boy Meets

World wiki has. Sean to Corey, I can't believe

you hit your dad. Now, does that mean he has

to leave the house in shame? Do you get his woman?

Or Eric, I'm volunteering for the Witness Protection

Program. Corey, Eric, you didn't witness any

crime. I hit my father. I saw the whole thing.

And then the last one that's listed there. Hello,

Philly General. Have any middle -aged men been

admitted this afternoon with basketball injuries?

Huh, that many? Yeah, that was a little weird.

Yeah. No, I love all that. I think that's great.

But again, the only thing you're not really seeing

in these episodes to this pathway point of this

season is a lot. You saw some of Amy and Alan,

but you're not seeing any of Amy giving any advice

to Eric and Corey. The only other time I think

Amy was majorly in this half the season is when

she went back to school and Eric just got horrified

at her romantic writing about her real life.

But, like, I just, and as much as I love the

father -son dynamic, these kids have so many

father figures in their life, whether it's their

own father, whether it's whatever, whether it's

Feeney, whether it's, I honestly don't think

Mr. Turner could have fit. in this season. As

much as I would have loved to have Mr. Turner

still here, as much as I would love to have Mr.

Williams still here, have the two of them still

here as characters, they basically, characterizational

-wise, basically wrote them out to the point

of, yeah, Feeney is the only mentor you're going

to get outside of your own parents. So, you know,

it is what it is. And yeah, like, but I love

how, you know, Corey is, it's basically raging

Corey. Like, okay, he didn't intentionally mean

to knock his dad. Like, it wasn't like a, I agree

with you. I don't like seeing it happen, but

I think it had to happen in order for everything

else to happen in the episode. Because that's

the tipping, that moment of when Corey does it

and then Eric does it later. So those are the

tipping points of them finally getting to the

crux of their relationships with their dad. So

I don't know. I think it's a good way to do a

midway point for the season. I think it's an

interesting – not that they were doing this back

then because they weren't. It's like, oh, this

is the mid -season finale kind of thing. This

kind of feels like a very good mid -season finale,

and we will eventually come back with, I believe

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