Toy Reality TV Shows: Toy Hunter and Collection Intervention

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the point. I'm sorry. All right, so We are here

to get into toy. We're here a lot of beer what

No, we're not drinking beer yet. Oh, I wish that

That's the only part of what I did water for

the last 20 days All right, so Paul messaged

me on Twitter the other night saying, hey, I

want a podcast about these toy collection reality

television shows. I'm like, all right. Yeah.

So what have you been up to, Paul, before we

get into the actual topics? Oh, a little bit

of this, a little bit of that. Not drinking beer.

No, no. Yeah, that's true. I'm lying. Nothing

really. I mean, I've been pretty boring lately.

You've been what? Boring. Oh, well, that's what

happens when people live in California. There's

nothing exciting going on out there. It's been

really hot out here. I mean, yesterday, I think

we were having like brownouts because California

sucks when it comes to like energy conservation

or something. I guess I don't know what it is.

But like last night, the lights were flickering

and I'm like, oh. This is bad. So we got all

the candles out and everything. We were ready

to lose power and then it never happened. Stupid.

But that's about it. So what about you, Bob?

What's, uh, yeah. What about Bob? What's going

on with you, sir? I'm sailing! Um, no, uh, I've

been on vacation. I'm a sailor. I sailed. Ahoy.

I sail. I'm a sailor. Ahoy. Stop it. Just stop

it. I've been on vacation for ten days now. Really

vacation Yeah, I still got you know tomorrow

and the weekend and I just been doing a lot of

like recording and toy reviews Awesome. I finally

got all the ninja turtles the whole first wave

and put one up today of shredder. So That figure

sucks. It's not really that bad. I don't really

mind it the Just cuz he doesn't have any articulation

and that's yeah, that's that that's the problem

with the non turtle figures for the Nick part

of the For the Nickelodeon versions is that the

villains have no articulation Yeah, but I'm happy

that they focused on the turtles though Which

is good because that's where they should have

put the money to make super articulated figures.

I'm happy with that. I mean, except the other

ones aren't bad. They're not that bad. Yeah,

and the foot soldier's actually pretty decent.

Well, and they're a lot better at articulation

than the old school ones, even the classic runs

and stuff. So I'm happy to have anything on the

bad guys. Well, can shredders, because it's been

a while since I've seen the videos, can his arms

move at all? Yes. Okay, all right. Well, as long

as his arms can move, that's all that really

matters, because, I mean, hell, even in the old

version, that's really all you needed was his

arms to move, because the legs on the old Turtles,

that's what really sucked. And his legs are on

ball joints. I mean, they go back and forth and

up and down and all that stuff. They just don't

bend at the knee or the foot. Yeah, they just

don't bend. I really think that the worst figure

is probably the crane, which... Right. I mean,

that's really the worst one of all. I mean, Krang,

all of you... He doesn't want to stand up. Well,

right, but the problem with Krang, the problem

with Krang and his little compartment body, not

the big... Drone body, but the little compartment

brain body thing is that that's all it is It's

it looks like something out of freaking Star

Wars or something one of those little droidy

cars. That's what it friggin looks like doesn't

Anyway looks like that So but there's a thing

like for me crying in general Unless his brain

is in the stomach of that Android body. I don't

care about crying I'll see that's that's where

you're screwed up in the head Anyway, let's get

on with the topic. So first up we're gonna talk

about Jordan here Tells just call them George

Jordan asshole Jordan and borrows toy hunter.

We'll be back after when you hear a clip of that

Hey, remember when you lit your toys on fire?

Or how about when you launched your spaceships

out the window? Awesome. Well, it might not be

so awesome after you watch Toy Hunter. They could

be worth big bucks. Meet Jordan Hembrough. Buying

and selling vintage toys is his business. $17

,000. These may be toys, but this isn't child's

play. Toy Hunter, a new series. Premiering August

15th. Only on Travel Channel. We are back. And

yes, we are talking toy reality television shows.

I think there is a third one coming up. I forget

what the name of it is. But today we're going

to focus on Toy Hunter and Collection Intervention.

First up is Toy Hunter. I first found out about

this from my buddy Jason Duvall from Toy World

Order. He is actually friends with Jordan. Like

seriously? Like he actually knows him, knows

him, or just? No, he's got the guy's phone. He's

talked to the guy He's got the five guys phone

number all that good stuff before the show ever

aired before the show ever aired. Yeah, okay

So Jason knows him And that's how I found out

about it I saw the pilot or the premiere or the

teaser or whatever the hell that episode was

way back when? When he was last year when he

was planning on going to New York Comic Con And

it specifically states in that that he is a buyer

and seller of toys. It doesn't say that he's

anywhere in there. I know he's a collector, I'm

sure he is, but it doesn't say that he is out

to buy these toys to collect them for himself.

He is a buyer and seller of toys. So the pilot

episode, I liked it. I just found a lot of things

very... Inconsistent and he made a couple of

mistakes in the pilot. He says that Thundercats

ran from 85 to 89 that's not I mean technically

that could be true, but the way that the show

is is Documented online it ran from 85 to 87

two seasons right um You know so that was a little

this just a little nitpick. I liked it. I thought

it was interesting. I thought that for me He

a lot of people say that he's he was low balling

people or he was ripping people off I didn't

see that because when they showed the figures

of oh he bought it for say $150 and he'll probably

sell it for 225. He's not making that much of

a profit You know From that whatever that one

piece is I didn't mind it now that it's become

instead of toy hunters It is now just toy hunter,

right? and instead of him going in in the pilot

he went to like the the kenner people's houses

he he went to industry people that used to work

at the toy companies whereas now he's going to

more so just people that he knows that have collections

right and what i like about it is that he instead

of him saying i'll buy this from you for and

then gives them an amount, he asks them, what

are you willing to let this go for? What is your

amount that you would have to have to sell this?

Yeah, that's a strategy that if you watch shows

like Pawn Stars or Pickers, that's a strategy.

When you're buying stuff, this is one thing I've

learned. I've learned watching these shows. When

you're a buyer, you ask them what they want and

then you negotiate from there. You don't start

off with what it's worth. You start off with

what they expect to get in their mind because

a lot of times they don't know. One thing I will

say about Jordan is I do appreciate when something

is really undervalued from the seller. He kind

of is like, I gotta be honest with you, you know,

this thing is really actually worth this. Yeah.

Which I dig that, but go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah.

I wasn't able to catch the first two episodes.

I caught the latest one that came out this past

week, or this week rather. Last night? Yeah,

yeah. I caught that one and I liked it. I thought

it was interesting. I think the thing for him

is outside of the fact that he is a buyer and

seller is that he just like seeing what people

have i mean you see him diving over stuff because

he'll he'll see like a vintage superman figures

you know you and i i know it's reality television

and i know that it's it's it's staged to us it's

scripted to a certain point and that's all well

and good i just have a real problem with him

getting Well as far as like when he went when

he said about the thought we like when thundercats

aired or when it you know went when certain that's

I mean Not so much about the toys not so much

about the buying and selling of the toys But

just like oh well this franchise ran from this

to this no it did not That's really my only issue

with the show. I like it. It's it's cool. It's

decent I don't know where he's gonna take it

though me personally I'm not sure because this

past week. He was buying these last night. He

was buying these toys and And he took them to

a random auction. Yeah. And I'm thinking, why

are you taking them to a random auction house

when you should be taking them to like toy shows,

like even small toy shows? I'm not saying, you

know. I'm not saying every episode has to lead

up to a comic con or whatever, but don't just

take them to a general auction house, because

you're not going to have ... Because I listen

to Dave and Deval. Deval is the one that knows

him. They talk about auctions and auction sales

and all this and all that all the time on their

podcast. To me, a general auction house might

have one or two ... I know Deval goes to auctions

and sales all the time and there's maybe in his

area, there's three or four people that show

up that are collectors, but in general, a regular

just plain old auction, no one's going to show

up for a vintage. You need to have something

be a whole lot more specific, if you ask me.

Have a couple problems and okay, you mentioned

you mentioned, you know how he's generally wrong

with this facts and stuff and You know, he's

been doing this for years from everything that

we're led to believe Jordan has been doing this

for years Then if that's the case, he should

know that It's dark side not dark. Yes, that

was that one. As soon as I heard that, I had

no idea what he was talking about. I was I was

playing on my iPad at the same time and just

kind of listening in the background. Yeah. And

every now and then I would look up and he had,

you know, this old I don't even it was Kenner.

it's a kenner canadian version of the dark side

destroyer yes thank you but he kept calling it

the dark are you see is that so i don't bother

looking up i'm i'm just playing on my ipad and

that that that that that that and then i look

up a lot more do check that out i do what i was

and i like any kept calling it dark seed i'm

like i think you know that side is not dot dark

side is not a very obscure character in the d

.c. universe i mean you i mean if you follow

the d .c. universe you know who dark seed is

yeah i mean that was just aggravating me i mean

he should know yes well there's there's no excuse

there's no excuse for that okay i'm not okay

i'm not totally trying to defend him yes he should

know but i can see where he would you know make

the mistake of that Of the pronunciation because

it is spelled it is spelled S I E D Yeah, but

I would understand that if it came from somebody

who doesn't follow Superman Yeah, but if you

I mean I would understand that but somebody who

is a toy collector Who's a toy hunter as he is

who should know history? I mean he's going around

teaching us history of these toys Yeah, he can't

get one of the the I mean in the grand scheme

of Superman there's like two Characters that

I ever only thought could kill Superman one did

kill Superman That was doomsday and the other

one is dark side Well before we have people screaming

at their iPods there are technically four There's

uh... doomsday dark side braniac and luther uh...

now luther generally won't he wants to kill superman

but it was never every every nation he usually

fails yeah i'm saying i'm saying people and well

okay naval maybe braniac but even that's a little

bit more of a stretch for me but in in my opinion

the two people are two characters that in my

mind kill him if they actually really tried are

dark side and obviously doomsday. I mean, I don't

think the other ones, you know, Lex Luthor, he

could try all he wants. It's never gonna happen

unless he gets super popular. I mean, that's

just my opinion, but I mean, that, you know,

when it comes - And he and Braniac have a whole

history because Braniac was, yeah. Yeah, you

know, but I mean, the ones who like, if they

just sat down and it's like, if they took Lex

Luthor's brain and put it into these people,

Like like Darkseid or well, I don't even want

to say doomsday because doomsday was a mindless

retard who I shouldn't say retard I'm sorry,

but he was a mindless nothing that was able to

kill him But I mean it but you know what I'm

saying. Yeah, this is a main character This is

this is a main dude in in the DC universe and

if you are going to try to peddle yourself Peddle

yourself off as a like a toy historian, toy collector,

toy whatever, you need to know who Darkseid is,

plain and simple. And maybe not even necessarily

know him, but you should be able to look at the

name and be able to know that it's not Darkseid.

That was just a huge thing that was just like

digging at me. It was digging at me also. And

I really do think he does kind of undersell people

things, you know what I mean? In the episode,

was it yesterday? Maybe it wasn't yesterday.

No, it was yesterday. It was yesterday's episode.

He was buying a Barbie number one. Now, we'll

talk about this later on, but I just found it

really kind of hilarious that in Toy Intervention,

which airs the day before Toy Hunter on a different

network, what's hilarious was they featured eight

bar b number one of a lot of people who was a

collector you know that the woman who had this

and in this episode they made it pretty obvious

that this figure is worth about four thousand

dollars and he he bought it for twenty nine hundred

minutes sold for like thirty five but he tried

to get it for lower you know i mean he really

tried to understand undercut this lady who had

it and i'm sitting here i'm like I mean, I guess

my biggest problem, you know, I didn't like that

Luna do not go under my computer um You know

the the biggest thing that I think bugs me about

him is that? And I think I mentioned this to

you or I mentioned this to someone because whenever

the show comes on I'm tweeting about it all the

time my biggest thing that I have with this guy

is He is a reseller which I totally understand

that. I mean I watch pawn stars. I totally understand

Where they're coming from you go in you go into

the pawn shop and you're gonna get less than

what it's worth Because they got to turn around

and they got to sell it and they got to make

a profit so that they can buy other shit I totally

get that but he's going into people's houses

It's they're not coming to him. They're not wanting

to sell that there's no desperation When people

go in there, they want to sell stuff, you know

when they go to the pawn shops, they want to

sell stuff Now, he goes in these people's houses

and granted, it's set up, but they don't really

want to sell the stuff. I mean, I don't get the

impression that they want to sell the stuff.

I mean, some stuff, yeah, they probably do. And

if they're able to sell it and if they're happy

with it, that's all that matters. But if you're

going in and you're going to buy a Barbie number

one and you're going to offer them, I don't even

remember what the initial... offer was but it

was low low two thousands no schnalk is gonna

not know because he asked her what would you

need for this and she said $3200 yeah, but but

then he like counter with like 27 or something

like that 27 and they I think they ended up settling

on 29 and he sold it for 35 right So I mean he

made his money back, you know, but right there

3500 is right where I was saying You know, it's

that's about it's actually five hundred dollars

under sold. Yeah, you know and we've seen that

now I mean and the other thing. Oh my god. The

other thing was in the first episode This one

annoyed the crap. I'm sorry, Bob. Bob's just

sitting there like, will you shut up, Paul? I'm

just not jumping in. I'm just talking over you.

See, yeah, he's following the rules that you

laid down. That's because Bob actually listens.

Bob's a good boy. I love Bob. Okay, so the other

thing that annoyed the fuck out of me was in

the first episode, not the pilot or... I mean,

I would probably guess that's a pilot because

the whole point of that episode... that toy hunters

was that they wanted to see if they could get

enough viewers to get it right so that was the

purpose of it and it got picked up which good

for them I'm happy to see a lot of collectors

tuned in to watch the show in the very first

episode of toy hunter it actually had Pete Sinclair

who a lot of people would know from uh... running

or not running but be one of the main guys for

the transformer collector club and we could actually

see his collection and it was awesome because

cali carousel lack of a lot of a lot of a lot

you can actually see her puggle in one of the

scenes which is really cool here about that but

see here's the thing the reason the reason jordan

went to him was because he's going through these

you know these uh... older twin brothers attic

and he finds a g one bubble be is all excited

about it Then he comes across another one that

looks like bumblebee, but it's not and he's like,

I don't know what this is and He's he's freaking

out. He's all excited and I'm like Really? You

don't know what that is And I'm sitting there

scratch. He's like this could be an early prototype.

This could be worth a whole bunch of money He's

really these people with these heads. It was

g1 bumper That's all the bump. Yeah, you know,

you know that the one where it's like bumblebee

and clip jumper Yeah, and it's it never it never

it never really came out But I mean, it's you

know that I mean everybody knows it at least

in the Transformers world and that's another

one where you're He had no idea what that was.

Oh Yeah, what something's falling? Yeah, keep

going. Keep going with your thoughts Gotcha.

So I mean I was just really kind of annoyed that

you know The biggest one is that he's peddling

off Information that is just really kind of off

the wall. He doesn't have facts straight very

well and In the general just the things if you're

just gonna have somebody who's just casually

watching the show They're probably not gonna

pick up on that stuff Where we will, and that's

what's probably gonna annoy us. But, I really

honestly don't see this show lasting for too

terribly long. It doesn't seem like something

that's gonna go. I don't know. My other problem

with it, before Bob gives his thoughts, sorry

to not include you Bob, but my other issue with

Toy Hunter, first of all, it's on a network that

barely markets it as far as I know. Like I don't

see the travel channel. I mean yes on on their

website right now It showed as oh, this is a

featured thing, but it was like I I don't watch

the travel channel hardly at all, but it's like

Most channels when they have upcoming shows They

will license their commercials out to the other

network so you could see the ads run kind of

like It's kind of like if Transformers animated

is running on Cartoon Network And Phineas and

Ferb is running on Disney Channel. Disney Channel

might run a Transformers animated toy ad, because

they obviously can't run them on the same time,

whatever else. You know what I mean? But it's

like, I saw absolutely no advertising for this

past whatever the pilot got. And then all of

a sudden it's like, oh, here it is. This is it.

And then Travel Channel is like, oh, next week

on Toy Hunter. But that's pretty much it. I have

not seen one single ad on any other cable channel.

Oh, it's a very obscure network. I mean, Travel

Channel. I know. And that's the thing. It's like,

why is a collection? A toy collection thing on

the fucking travel channel. If it was on A &E.

Well, he travels. If it was on 2TV. If it was

on the fucking E network. But he travels. I know

he travels, but that's not the fucking point.

I know. It's really stupid. The point is, if

you want Toy Hunter to succeed, try putting it

up against something like Storage Wars. Or, you

know, something that would, you know... Kind

of like what, uh... what what a m c did with

the walking dead in in kevin smith's comic book

men they put comic book man on first and then

walking like congressman was like sunday night

nine at nine p m walking dead was sunday night

at ten p m so the crowd that's gonna come to

see the the walking dead fans that are gonna

to not turn on their t v two a m c like model

five minutes before walking dead starts there

to see the last five or six minutes a common

man so you get that crowd I'm like, oh, hey,

what the hell is this? Let me check this. I don't

understand why the fuck. That's my only other

big complaint about Toy Hunter. I don't get why

it's on the fucking travel channel. I think it

was on, even if they put it on like Sci -Fi or

something like that, I think it would do a little

bit better. But I think it's on a network that

it's just going to die just because people aren't

going to know about it. I mean, we know about

it because we're in that collector area. I mean,

one thing that's actually kind of cool is I've

actually, on some of my ads, yeah, on some of

my videos, the ads that run on it, some of them

are for Toy Hunter. Oh, that's cool. And also,

collection interventions. So, I mean, it's really

kind of cool that that happened, but otherwise,

nobody else is going to know about these. What

are your thoughts on Toy Hunter, Bob? We'll show

them. Okay, here we go. First off, um, if you

guys watched not this week's but last week's

or whatever He actually has a girl that works

for him in his office Yeah, that just like it's

just like American Pickers Yeah, and she sets

up these picks for him to go, you know Drive

to New Jersey and I got seven guys to go look

at their houses and their collectors and maybe

they want to sell them But if you pressure them

enough, okay, I'll look I you know you I'll sell

you this crap thing that's in my closet. Anyway,

the guy just drives me insane because like Paul

was saying, he doesn't know what he's doing,

it seems like. Like he has no clue. Last night

on Snake Mountain play set that he got, that

he was showing people, he actually had like a

Marvel Dragon Man. I don't know if you guys know

who that is. From the Marvel Universe, it was

Dragon Man. He actually had it sitting on top

of the Snake Mountain with the other He -Man

figures. Like he he was like cross -contaminating

because he all this I get it must go with he

man You know he has no freaking clue what he's

doing He really he really thought that that drag

that it was with he man He never said it he it

was just setting in the background when he was

talking about how cool snake mountain was But

if you had you know anybody that collects toys

and stuff would be like wait a minute That's

not a he man figure, but he had it sitting on

top of snake mountain with all the other guys

and it's it's just he's subtle things like that

that it's like dude you have no idea he said

that last night's um those those kiss action

figures like the the you know the 12 inch figures

were better than any star wars collector item

that he's ever yeah and i wanted to specifically

said it trumps it and there's no way how does

that trump above fat you know from seventy seven

from the first episode that he was selling a

comic -con for like fourteen thousand dollars

yeah i mean seventy nine i remember when i was

six months ago yeah i think that's the other

thing i don't get a lot of people say that a

lot of people say that that whole thing i don't

know for sure but a lot of people say that that

whole sdcc thing with boba that was set up it

was i don't know i don't care to speculate on

what else what else bob um just the way he goes

about things he almost like pressures people

into selling their stuff like Paul was saying

you know it's like you don't know what you have

here you know would you like to sell it and they're

like not really well I'll give you this much

for it it's like what no wait a minute I don't

want to sell that it's almost like like the people

are just showing this guy their collection and

all of a sudden the guy wants to buy stuff from

them it's like I don't know if it's set up that

way or if it's set up to You know, it's like

okay. I have a collection. Can you come over

here and appraise some stuff for me? Since you're

so knowledgeable about figures and stuff I would

like you to give me a like a rough estimate of

what what I have, you know Do I have anything

that's worth anything and then next thing, you

know, he's buying stuff from him It's like that

poor guy with the Superman stuff, you know He

was like showing him this that and then all of

a sudden Here buy this Superman puppet that nobody

even would want in the first place You know,

I'm gonna give you, you know, whatever it went

for, $300. No, $500 or whatever. $550. And then

it's sold for $500 at the auction. Which is another

thing. Why would you take stuff to an auction

knowing full well that people aren't gonna buy?

I mean, if you watch any of the other shows,

auctions don't do what, you know, the retail

prices would be. People go to an auction to try

to find a deal. They're not gonna pay full price

for something. They're going to try to get it

for the least as possible amount. You take something

that's worth the Barbie, he could have sold it

to a collector that would have gave him $5 ,000

for it, easy. But you take it for an option.

I'm flipping through. I mean, we're not supposed

to interrupt. But I just pulled up some of the

completed listings for the number one Barbie.

And here's one that went for $3 ,900, $4 ,100,

$4 ,600. You you could have he really could have

gotten a lot more money Right and going back

like that girl that works for him You know when

he found that Star Wars speeder bike that was

like a pedal car You know he calls her up and

says hey, you know get on some of our Star Wars

People and see if anybody would be interested

like they have clients and stuff that I collect

this go out and find whatever you can of this

run You know or I collect this go find some of

this You know, and when you find it, call me

and I'll be interested. It's like, why didn't

he do that with the stuff? He like completely,

they dropped that part of the show. It's like,

I don't know. And he went to some, you know,

what was it? Flea market, Franks and Sons or

something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's out here. That's

out here. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, and I was

telling my wife, I was like, hey, Paul's been

there before, you know, because I remember you

tweeting about going there. And that's where

you got your your most favorite toilet figure,

wasn't it? Absolutely. Yes, it was like I was

like Paul's been there before it's like would

you really want to set up a table out there?

I Mean would it be worth your while? If you had

like I thought that was dumb Yeah, I honestly

thought that was dumb because I mean most people

go there and you know really high -end stuff

you know you get collectors that go you know

to Frank's and you know you get some you know

people that want to buy that kind of stuff, but

You don't get a lot. I mean, it's really I mean

and the specific reason, you know frankincense

is Really? It really is just a ripoff place.

I mean everything there I mean you go there and

if you want to buy like one of the new Marvel

universe figures that are like ten dollars You're

gonna pay thirty dollars for it. I mean everything

is just ridiculously marked up there So people

like me, I don't even really buy anything there

It's insane All right. Now. It drives me nuts.

I tweeted at him last night. Oh, good, Bob. What

were you going to say? I tweeted at him last

night, and I was like, do you have any clue what

you're doing? At least you got your 15 minutes

of fame. Oh, god, man. Because he's a jerk. When

he said that about Star Wars, I seriously, that

turned me completely. I was going to give it

a chance. I watched him, everyone so far. But

when he said the kiss figures were better than

anything Star Wars, No, I think maybe I think

maybe he's just saying that in terms of collectibility

Kiss kiss kiss is very highly collectible. I

Know that there's so much of it. I mean there's

so much Star Wars. There's so much Star Wars

There's so much kiss they have kiss condoms.

They have kiss whatever, you know Gene Simmons

will put kiss on anything if you give him money

and it's very true It's just like you know that

as a collector myself. I look through the stuff.

That's hard to find now with these shows It's

gonna flood the market with idiots that go hey

I have this I bet I could get $40 for it You

know and they're gonna try to do it just like

auction hunters and all that stuff There's so

many people showing up at these you know Locker

sales, and it's running the prices up because

they have no idea what they're doing and maybe

I can get a gun from the 18th century you know

and and which are very rare to do. The other

reality shows is a whole other topic in general,

but I will say about Auction Hunters, I think

they are some of the most honest about it because

you can actually do that math. If they bought

a unit for $1 ,100 and they sold the contents

for $19 ,250, You can do the math of subtracting

the $1 ,100 from the $19 ,250, and you can see

what their actual profits are. And Auction Hunters

specifically says in the beginning of that show,

Ton and Alan are auction hunters, go across the

country, blah, blah, blah. Showing the best finds

that they've you know, it's not just that they're

you know It's not just like a film crew going

out with them every single day. It's it's specific

setup things auction hunters, I think is probably

the most Less dramatic out of all the storage

shows Mean I mean they do have their rivals and

they do have their this and that and everything

else but I watched an episode of that the other

night just after toy hunter went off the air

and it was like You know, they know if you know

if they see certain things in the bin They want

to put eight hundred a thousand dollars on it

last night There was an episode where people

were bidding twenty five twenty six hundred dollars

on a unit that we should have gone for nine hundred

To a thousand you know that other people were

overbidding it and it just shouldn't have gone

for that amount of money because the whole point

is you have to make money on what you buy But

the overbidding is these new ones guys. They're

watching it. You know sitting at home watching

going I bet I can do that I bet I go to flea

market to buy you know He had figures from the

80s and sell them for $30 apiece. Yeah, I 50

I honestly do not think that toy hunter nor what

we'll be talking about here in a minute. I honestly

don't think toy hunter and collection intervention

are going to harm the eBay market because eBay...

You don't think? No. You don't think it's going

to flood the market of people sitting at home

going, I want to be a toy collector and go out

to all the auctions they could find and flea

markets and ghetto malls or whatever and have

yard sales of nothing but toys and collect...

but the thing is look at certain items on ebay

look at the sale stuff say oh god what's a perfect

example um all right for for example one of my

favorite all -time figures uh just because it's

it's simply freaking cool 2000 and i know this

is exclusive i'm not going retailer i'm going

exclusive 2008 bot con shattered glass rotimus

prime goes asking goes anywhere from three fifty

to five hundred and fifty dollars asking price

i looked at the sold listings on it which there

are very few uh... because it's not like that

it's not run a message i guess you're out of

this is flooding ebay but every time it's come

up it's either sold for foreign some dollars

or it hasn't sold for whatever amount it was

so i know i i honestly don't think because You

don't have, I mean, toy collecting is a niche

thing. It's, you know. But it's something, I

think what Bob's saying is that it's something

that people can, yeah. I see that though. I see

where you're coming from, Bob, yeah. I don't

know, I don't know. Well, the other thing is,

as we said, how many people... Are actually gonna

pay attention to toy. No, I'm not saying anything

bad about the show I'm just saying like outside

of us the people that know about it Deval, you

know pixel Dan all these other toy people Pia

all these other people outside of us Unless it's

you know us or the toy collecting community in

general spreading the word about the show What

regular person that knows nothing about toy collecting

is gonna turn on the fucking travel channel.

Hey Mike to watch Toy Hunter. My counterpoint

for that would be is, you're like, how many people

are actually, you know, how many people are actually

gonna do it? Blah, blah, blah. People got together,

back in the 60s, people got together and they

wanted to do something. Well, hold on, hold on.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.

Go ahead. People got together through word of

mouth and they got the very first space shuttle

from NASA named the Enterprise. That was from

fans that did that. Okay. The fans watched enough

of this pilot episode to get it picked up. I

understand that. I understand that, but to counterpoint

Bob's point of every Joe Blow is going to now

think, oh, my collection's worth money. Oh, I

can go to this yard sale. How many people are

going to actively watch, in general, outside

of the people that are already watching? How

many new viewers are they going to get each week

is my thing here. Did you see the get glued?

You know, when you get the sticker for it, and

then it comes up with all the comments, all these

schmoes are going, I didn't know toys were worth

so much. I bet I could go do that. If you go

back and look, and I'm not just making this up,

so many people were saying, I would love to have

that job. I didn't know about the show, and I

heard it from somebody else. Yeah. No, I know

word of mouth is very fair power. I'm just afraid

it's going to flood the market, and I know a

certain person that after they saw one of these

shows, they're going, huh, that makes me want

to kind of sell some of my stuff, Paul. Well,

no, no, it wasn't after that. It was after the

intervention show. Yeah, and and you were like

how many other people are gonna do that and then

all of a sudden you got this mass rush of Collectors

going like I better thin out my stuff because

that makes that show makes me think Then it floods

the market. I mean, that's all I'm saying is

then all these people are gonna be I guarantee

next yard sales that you guys go to I'm sure

you don't go to a whole lot but Paul you might

Go, you know next time you drive around and you

see yard sales how many? 80s collectible toys

are you going to see? Everybody's going to bring

them out of their closets, go to their grandma's

house. I used to have that toy when I was a kid,

you know, and bring it out and try to sell it

for, you know, $150. Missing the arms and the

legs, but it's collectible. It's from the 80s.

Oh, I know. But at the same part of the different

goods on me, people won't recognize. You know,

just because something is old, if it's in bad

condition, it's not collectible. But a lot of

schmucks out there are going to try to think

it is because they got out to work in the 80s

watching these shows. Absolutely. Right, right.

And then they're going to go to a buyer, or they're

going to go to a flea market, or they're going

to go somewhere, or they're going to go to a

comic shop. And the comic shop is going to tell

them, no, I'm sorry. This is not it at all. We

all know. Put on the show date. Well, as Jordan

harps on, and as the one that we're gonna talk

about here in a minute harps on it, it's all

about condition, especially mint toys. Loose

toys, it isn't so much, but the mint toys it

is. Toy Hunter for me, I will continue to watch

it as long as it's on. I just have to remember

it's channel 61 and not 64, because 61 is the

fucking travel channel and 64 is sci -fi. I turned

on sci -fi last night and I was like, wait a

second, what else? Oh, that's right, it's the

fucking travel channel. So you do have to watch

Haunted Collector? No, briefly, like two seconds.

I watch it, sorry. I'm a ghost hunter, I have

to watch it. Yes, I know. People ask me about

it all the time. Well, will you continue to watch

Toy Hunter? Yeah, I mean, I'll continue to watch

it. I'll continue to probably tweet about it.

People will probably see me and be like, what

the fuck's he talking about? And then check it

out, and there will be more fans watching the

show. Yes. What about you, Bob? Did the kiss

comment pretty much kill your interest? No. I

will watch it and follow him on Twitter just

to tear him apart, because it's fun to hate.

Wow. Haters love to hate. And when he said that,

it's almost like a stalker thing now. I'm waiting

for him to screw up enough that I could throw

stuff at him. because he's an idiot and he doesn't

deserve a TV show. All right. On that note, here

is the collection intervention teaser, trailer,

audio, whatever the hell. We'll be back after

that. Wow. He has 30 ,000 comics in our home.

There's nowhere in this house where there's no

Star Wars. Now might be the time to sell. We

just need more space. This is about new doors,

new life. You know, no one says you can't collect

anymore. The goal is for you to live in your

house with your beautiful collection, but for

there to be room. Collection Intervention premieres

Tuesday, August 14th at 10. Part of Syfy's Tuesday

Night Originals. All right. To close out, we're

going to have a discussion on Syfy's new show,

Collection Intervention. OK, before we get into

this, I need to talk about the host. Hostess

of this Elise Luray Lurie, whatever the hell

her name is hot who cares about her. Yes. She

is very For 44 years old. Yes. She is hot. Yeah

now just to give some history on her She is a

certified appraiser and is a New York State licensed

auctioneer Okay, that's what Wikipedia and on

Wikipedia says that she is as far as collection

intervention It's a show where she goes around

to different people who are essentially toy hoarders

I think I honestly don't think the title of the

show fits what what happens in the show because

there was one uh... the the poor cow and i oh

my god first of all his wife was fugly second

of all she was a she hated his collecting habits

she hated the fact that he was a toy collector

she hated his collection and i and i understand

the catwoman guy they were in debt i'd get that

he was essentially pulling a shawn long and going

out and buying stuff they couldn't afford a lot

of everything else i understand that that's fine

in all essence your spouse should at least, if

she doesn't like it fine, she should at least

tolerate and support you in your hobbies. That's

the thing. But the whole point of collection

intervention is Elise Luray goes around and pretends

to be a therapist even though she's a licensed

auctioneer to these people that have either houses

filled with toys and not just like a display

collection, I mean like... The Catwoman guy,

his entire garage was boxed up Catwoman toys.

The Star Wars... The Star Wars stuff was displayed.

It was all very nice, yes. Yes, it was. But it

comes to a point where it starts taking over

their life, and no matter where they're at, if

they see something Star Wars, they have to buy

it, no matter what. And they don't even know

what they have. Right. And I understand that

the Star Wars lady, she, you know, might have

been a lonely child, and the Star Wars figures

were her friends. Oh yeah. You know, quote unquote,

friends, I get that. Don't get me wrong. I just

think that this, this show should be titled something

else. It should be titled like toy hoard or hoarding

toys. It's not a real intervention because Elise

is not qualified to be a therapist. She's going

in and she's intervening and she's getting them

to sell stuff, which is, you know, That's kind

of one of the steps. I guess I mean I I agree

with you it is in my mind. It's sensationalizing

a Problem now now the toy collecting that they

have and I'll use collecting very loosely But

their toy collecting and their collections are

masking a much more serious problem And that's

not and they're not even focusing on that and

I think they use the word intervention because

it doesn't sound as dirty as hoarder does I think

there's much more of a negative connotation with

hoarder than intervention I mean that's that

it just sounds I mean when you say it it just

sounds more mean I guess but It's it's only an

intervention in in the in the fact that this

chick goes in there And she gets him to try and

sell some stuff. I mean you're you're absolutely

right Mike. You know that one girl She's crying

she I mean she was she treats these are I mean

she's holding Ewoks in her hands loose Ewoks

that are just in some bin and she's calling them

her friends And she doesn't want to sell them

because you know these are my friends and when

they're at the auction like towards the end of

the episode when you know she Convince them to

auction them. She stopped the auction because

she didn't think the auctioneer was giving the

toys proper... Enough respect, yeah. Yeah, enough

respect. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

I'm sorry. This is just... These people have

so many more issues. It's like the guy with the

matchbox cars. You know, did you watch that one?

Absolutely! Yeah, that was two nights ago. Yeah.

Yeah, he was physically getting sick at the sale.

He's like, I'm done with this. I can't do it

because people are trying to buy my things and

they don't have respect for it. And it's like

these people have major issues besides the hoarding

of the toys. Yeah, well, I mean, they have mommy

daddy issues or something. Yeah, I mean, you

know, I mean, when I was in college, I majored

in psychology. And without knowing too much,

I mean, you're absolutely right, Bob. I mean,

these people have issues that are much more,

you know, they're trying to fill something. You

know, like you said, you know, maybe their mom

wasn't around, maybe their dad wasn't around.

They're using their toys to fill this niche.

But a lot of us collectors do that same thing.

I mean, I started collecting. You know, you know,

I started collecting because I miss my childhood

and me and Mike both have the same kind of thing.

You know, we had stuff and it was taken away

from us without us having any involvement in

it. Right. So it's like we're trying to fill

that void. You know, you got back into it for

a certain reason, Paul. You know, you were a

grown up business suit, you know. guy and then

all of a sudden you reverted back to... I think

the only time I've ever seen him in a suit is

at BotCon. No, I can show you some pictures if

you want. Oh God, no thanks. You know what I

mean? You had a 9 to 5 business suit and tie

job. And then something in your mind made you

go, I don't want to be that person, I want to

be who you are now. The collector, the YouTube

guy. What famous youtuber up the boat? Yeah,

is there something that comes to play? I'm sure

Fran you know you know I'm your wife burn says

to you Sometimes Paul whoa whoa whoa you know

enough's enough. How many star check next generation?

play sets you need You know see anything here's

the thing you have and I have She and I have

ground rules though my collection stays in my

office It doesn't encroach in the rest of the

house. I mean, all of us. I mean, yeah, we're

all trying to fill in something that we missed

out on as a kid. We love having that. When I

bought the bridge for the Star Trek The Next

Generation, I sat there and I played with that

for half an hour just pushing buttons because

I did that when I was a kid. And we all do that.

I mean, I remember when I got one of my more

popular videos. is a very old one and i won't

take it down because it capture something in

it is when i reviewed the encore sky links i'd

tell the story about how my parents were you

know when we were young we were poor they couldn't

buy me stuff i'd found a box a g one sky links

in a garbage dumpster and i played with that

you know i mean so we are all doing it but it's

but we we all have that nothing at all around

exactly Exactly, there's a little voice on our

mind that says, alright, this is getting a little

retarded. And that's the voice that has me, I

mean, you mentioned this in the last segment

about me selling things, that's the voice that

has me sitting there saying, okay... I got all

these transformer, the movie toys that I don't

have out on display. I have them in a storage

bin. That's not a collection. That's one thing

that this girl on Toy Intervention says that

really resonates with me. It's not a collection

if it's in a closet somewhere, in a bin, in a

garage or whatever, not being enjoyed. That's

what resonated with me. Exactly. I have my own

storage unit. And there's stuff in there that

I'm going to go through and I'm going to sell

it off because I would rather somebody else have

that and be able to enjoy it because right now

all it's doing is sitting in a dark, hot storage

unit. Well, it's not hot, it's air conditioned.

But you know what I mean. So that's the part

in our brain that turns things off and says,

we're done. But these people don't have that.

And I actually know two people. that are going

to be on Toy Intervention. I personally know

two of them. One of them comes up next week in

the Transformers segment. His name is David.

He lives out here. He comes to our LA meetups.

I know the guy. I know David. He runs a website

that's called Toy Hell. They use that in the

promo. and he's I mean I've talked to him and

one of the things he's just really trying to

do is just try to draw uh business towards himself

you know so it's like I don't think he really

wants to get out of it and the other person is

Sean Long he's actually gonna be on a show oh

god I thought you were joking about that no I'm

absolutely not Mean he came back from comic -con

and they were they were doing filming and he

was talking about that I'm like, whoa, wait a

minute filming and then he started talking about

a collector show and I'm like, oh wait a minute

and then all of a sudden the whole toy intervention

show thing started getting talked about and I'm

like and I just put two and two together and

There it is. And if you watch one of the promos,

I think it was not from the week that we just

saw Two days ago. It was like the promo for after

the first episode You can't shake it real bad.

No, you don't learn it's like, oh no, that's

that's not it, but you can hear his voice So,

I mean I heard and I instantly recognized that

he's not gonna be labeled as a transformer collector

because he doesn't have that much anymore I mean,

he's got a lot of Marvel stuff and hot toy stuff,

but it's got my man figures I mean I mean talking

about people with you know so I don't know about

all these other people like the people that we

saw a couple days ago the people that we saw

in the first episode I don't know about those

people I know about Sean and after she leaves

they they don't they're not fixed that's that's

the whole point they're not fixed after she leaves

they've sold stuff which means they've just made

room to maybe buy more stuff and that's what

I see that's what I see Sean doing and he says

that he's going to be focusing his collection,

that he's, you know, only gonna concentrate on

high -end stuff, which is what she kind of, you

know, preaches in these episodes. You know, if

you're gonna be a collector, focus on the stuff

that you really love. And that's what I've seen

him kind of posting about. He's not gonna be

buying a whole bunch of random stuff, but Sean

was a hoarder. We saw, I mean, we've seen his

house, or his apartment, at least I have. You

know, and it's ridiculous. There's no room for

stuff for him to do anything. There's nothing.

And they cleaned it up, they got it all fixed

up so that now it looks good so that when camera

crews come in, it looks a little bit more, you

know, nice to the eyes. But, I mean, I personally

know the issues that Sean has. And having somebody

come in and give him attention by putting him

on a TV show like that, is not what somebody

like that needs. It's going to make him worse.

It's going to make him worse. It's going to further,

again, psychology, it's going to further dilute

his mentality into thinking and glorifying what

he does by having all these people like, oh my

god, Sean, you're a movie star, you're a TV star.

It's going to inflate his ego even more. To think

that he can get away with this stuff and then

all it's gonna do is make him at some point in

time Get a bigger place and have more shit. I

Mean that's really what it comes down to and

it's very sad because that's what this show does.

It's glorifying the entire Experience and not

focusing on the actual problem. Like you said,

I think Bob you said this they're not fixing

the problem They're just minimizing it by selling

shit. Now he's got more money to buy shit. Exactly.

That's what I'm saying. Well, I can see in the...

I'm sorry to cut you off, Bob. I can see in the

case of the Catwoman guy where they were actually

in debt. Yeah. I can see that possibly... I don't

want to get into too much personal stuff, but

Sean was in that exact same position. Right.

You know, he's lost a lot. That's all I'll say.

I mean, I don't want to trash him. No, no, no.

Right, yeah. We're not here to talk about schlongs.

Right. But I mean, he's in the show, so we have

to talk. I know. Well, it hasn't aired yet. It

hasn't aired yet. Wait till that episode starts.

Yeah. Let's have fun with that one. Hey, guys.

I'm on collection adventure. Make it by more

speed. Yay. But that's the thing. I mean, I see

all of his friends already doing it. They're

already glorifying it. And it just, you know,

continues that sickness. And again, I don't understand

why the hell this show is on the network it's

on. Sci -fi, CFE, whatever the fuck it's called

now, it's essentially outside of bad, horrible

Octopi movies are sharp to plus movies or ghost

shows Let's not let's not badmouth the go show

I'm just saying that whenever I turn that channel

on there's always promos for go shows They got

more go shows on there than oh, yeah, I've ever

seen I don't like again collection intervention

to me is Amy channel or something for for the

most part. It's about a couple Yes, there are

a couple of times where the woman is the collector

versus the man But they're probably gonna be

more often times that the man is the collector

I don't understand why it's not unlike spike

TV spike is TV for guys or you know I wouldn't

put it on A &E because I don't think it can hold

up against all the other stuff A &E has. Again,

I just don't get why it's on the science fiction

channel. They're the ones that pick them up,

dude. I'm sure they go to the big networks and

they just get turned down. I wonder if they pay

those people to be on the show. Oh yeah. yeah

yeah yeah they do so they like pay you money

to come into your house of film yes so they're

they're like they have to that's why i can't

say that it's real because if you're getting

paid for it you're being it's not reality tv

if somebody's paying you to act that way well

like you know do they amp it up some to make

it more drama i mean we because we know sean

We'll be able to watch that episode and we'll

be able to know if he's putting on an act for

the camera You know, we'll be able to tell we

don't know these other people his whole life

is an act. Yeah, but Reality television, you

know, you look at Big Brother Survivor whatever

all these actual reality shows and all that stuff

They get paid, you know, I mean You know, the

house guests, I mean, I have no idea. Well, that's

just the genre that was created, oh, so many

years ago. It's reality, but it's enhanced. Yeah,

it's enhanced. I mean, I remember watching, I

remember there was a, I don't know if I would

call it a conspiracy, but, you know, there was

a whole big to -do over... What the fuck? It's

not me. Did you guys hear that? Yeah? Oh, somebody's

banging on the side of my house. What the fuck?

It's the, um... It's the retarded ghost. What

the hell? It's the retarded ghost. Let me out!

Let me out! What the fuck? Hold on! Hold on!

Hold on! I'll be right back. Uh -oh. Go ahead,

Mike. What did you think of Collection Intervention,

Bob? You haven't really had a chance to talk

about it, but what did you think? I think it's

an okay show, the concept is okay, that people

go way overboard and they need an intervention

of saying, okay, there's an underlying problem

which she gets to, and how we can thin out the

herd of your collection. The basis is okay, but

what about after she leaves? The people aren't

fixed. Do they go to therapy? Do they? Something

has to change in their minds. I gotta go out

and yell at somebody, I'll be right back. You

know, like with your situation, Mike, you had

to downsize because you kept moving all the time.

You didn't want to take all your shit with you

every time you had to move. No, because I moved

like four times within eight months. Right. And

it's like, OK, in your situation, you were done.

OK, I don't need this stuff anymore. Get it out

of here. You know, it was a necessity kind of

thing. Right. Once these people. Get to the lowest

low that possibly can will they be able to bring

themselves out of it? I need to sell my stuff

Because I have you know like that girl the Star

Wars girl. She had no idea what she had She was

like oh, maybe fifty thousand dollars and the

girl was like no try a hundred and fifty thousand

dollars Yeah, it's like they don't even know

how much money. They're spending or what the

stuff's worth That is a major problem And then

the thing of it is is with with with the Star

Wars girl the thing of it was was she had that

life -size I know I know it was Captain Rx commander

X. Yeah, some blue stormtrooper, you know rex

yeah she had that life -size thing now i have

seen because you know when i used to when i used

to mall hop when i used to be a mall rat back

in my youth um you know i've seen stuff at like

sharper image and and all these other like exclusive

elite stores of oh life -size spider -man optimus

prime may you know whatever would i ever spend

that amount of money to have that to put in my

house just to have it sit there not not fifteen

hundred dollars you know or whatever not at all

absolutely for you fucking kidding me no i'd

rather just you know spend fifty bucks on one

of those fat heads and just stick it up on my

wall here there you go there's a spider -man

for you uh... but like but but the thing about

that that that rex standee was uh... they actually

held that auction at obi -wan rancher or whatever

the hell the auction house is obi farm or whatever

the hell it is It's for Star Wars collectibles.

Right, it's for Star Wars collectibles. And she,

the Star Wars chick, not the people with collection

intervention, but the person they were intervening

on, she actually knew Steve, whatever his name

is, that runs that place. And he actually bought

that from her as a gift, like, hey, yes, I'm

helping you out, buying this from you, but at

the same time, you can still come back here any

time and see it. you know it's not like you know

yes it's not yours anymore but at least you know

that it's going to a good home so the one that

really kinda i don't know it kinda irked me was

the whole barbie thing that was just freaking

weird that was like the beavers mom going insane

the thing about the barbie episode for me or

the part of the episode I think they have like

two different sets of, yeah, they have two different

sets of people. They have one set and another

set. First set was a family that had a wife that

collected Barbie stuff. Second one was a guy

who collected, uh... G .I. Joe's. G .I. Joe and

Matchbox or whatever. The Barbie chick, her collecting

got so bad that she had crap in her teenage son's

closets. He had dirty shirts in the closet. He

had three shirts hanging and everything else

was barred. But see, that's the thing. It's like,

you know, I can kind of see where collection

intervention comes in as far as, you know, as

Paul said, people needing an intervention and

saying, hey, what else? But I can also see your

point. Bob is like, OK, well, you know, what's

going to happen six months down the road? Well,

hopefully a couple of years down the road, the

two teenagers will have grown up by then and

moved out. Great, but then it gets worse because

now her kids are gone, and she's trying to fill

that void like Paul said you're trying to fill

a void Right my kids are gone empty nest syndrome

Filled full Barbies because it makes me feel

good I could I could surround myself with something

I love right But I know my kids are never and

I and I know Paul said that you know He and Vern

have an understanding all his stuff is up in

his office It doesn't really invade the rest

of the house, but if burn left. What would happen

Paul oh? Well, I'm just saying, uh, hypothetical.

No, that's a fair question. There's nobody there

to tell you, Paul. Calm down. You don't need

Jurassic Park toys now. You don't have the room.

But in your mind, you really want them. That's

a very valid question. I don't have an answer

for that. I mean, I am a very impulse. Driven

person that's one thing that drives burn absolutely

nuts about me She she she hates it. I mean she

really does I'll literally just get a You know

I don't know what what's what's the phrase um

I'll just get like a Desire or something you

know to buy it. I'll get a bug up my ass and

I'll Without she's like I don't even know why

you're asking me Cuz you're just gonna do it

anyhow and it's it's true. You know, I mean like

I I'll ask her just because I kind of want her

to agree to it so I don't feel bad but It's already

it's already something in my mind where I've

decided I want to do it and then if she says

no then I get I usually get bent out of shape

and See, that's why I don't like telling you

no Exactly or if she says yes, and then she goes

back and go you really need another one Well,

you said it was okay to get it. Yeah, I mean,

you know, it's like thinking everybody though

I'm not just picking on you Paul. It's my wife

controls my my spending You know cuz I would

go crazy if I didn't have that somebody to play

with you know somebody to bounce off of You know,

she she keeps me in check Because I just go out

and every time I get paid. I need a new collection

I need a new toy I need I saw Paul review this

I want to review it too you know she goes Bob

you don't really need it so you know that's all

I was trying to get at yeah and see that's the

thing with my collecting when I was collecting

is that I would only buy as far as just regular

retail stuff I would only buy the characters

I actually wanted to have well now the only exception

of that for me was Mighty Mugs because they're

so cool, I like a lot of the characters they

had, I bought nearly, I know I had all the Transformers,

I had all, even though there's only four, I had

all the G .I. Joe ones, I was starting to get

into all the Star Wars ones, and I had a good

percentage of Marvel ones, like, you know, a

lot of the famous Marvel characters. That was

my only, like, okay, I will buy every single

one of these things. I have never been so completionist

that I have to go out and buy Every single piece

from like let's just say for example 1986 Transformers

line. I don't have to buy every single toy I'll

buy the ones that I want same thing with now

with today like That follow of Cybertron optimus

to me. It's fucking ugly. It just is I don't

like it I don't like the way it looks in in truck

mode. I don't like the way it looks in robot

mode the war for Cybertron I know. I don't like

how he looks in the game either. That's what

everybody bitches about me. I don't like how

he looks down there either. But for me, I can't...

The way I limit myself, because I'm single and

whatever else, but the way I limited myself was,

OK, I'm only going to go after the Transformers

characters I absolutely love. So if I have a

shockwave from G1, from... animated from fall

of cybertron fine whatever that's you know let

me ask you this without without without being

too i'm gonna go there but without without being

too much of a dickhead how much of that though

is based on your financial situation though if

you if you if you were in a position because

i mean everybody knows that i mean right You

know, whatever. I've talked about it. I'm not...

Okay, okay. Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

... those financial situations right now. Well,

I mean, in the past, I mean, if you had a steady,

like, for example, income where money wasn't

all that... I mean, you know, I don't want to

say that Mike and I... All right. Let's rewind

the 2008 when I was still getting a consistent

amount of income every two weeks. Okay. Okay.

Were you still buying with the same limitations?

Mmm No, but at the same time I wasn't buying

everything I Was buying I was buying the stuff

I liked but I liked a lot of stuff back then

like all all of the animated majority of the

animated toys like like Voyager Prime Voyage

or not Voyager a leader Megatron Obviously Hot

Rodimus jazz all that stuff. I had a pretty decent

TFA collection Where I kind of got hung up in

the beginning when I first started collecting

in 2008 was, even though I had the extra money,

I was going after hugely amount of expensive

eBay stuff. I've said this before, I own up to

it between Blaster, Soundwave, G1, Hasbro, Galvatron,

which are the totally wrong fucking colors, and

a G184 Optimus Prime. Between those... Four figures

plus the cassettes for the for blaster and sound

wave. I spent probably fifteen sixteen hundred

dollars on those five pieces I Over time with

a guy that allowed me to do a payment plan. I

spent eight hundred dollars in the 2008 BotCon

set You know, but that's when I had money coming

in. Okay, but at the same time I think I still

would go after like I said the only the only

one that I didn't really limit myself on was

the Mighty Mugs. Mighty Mugs, come on. Unless

you're talking the exclusive ones, they're anywhere

from $7 to $20, $30. They're not that bad of

a thing. Usually, you can get them at Toys R

Us for $12. I mean, they're not that expensive.

So I would go out and buy as many of those because

I liked them. I thought they were super cool.

And at the time, I was watching a YouTube show

called Superhero Mugs. I'll send you guys a link

later if you're interested, but it's one of those

things where that show, I'm like, oh my God,

what are these toys? I have to have these things.

And I just thought they were really super cool

with the whole situation with Mattyscalper .com

and Digital River and all that crap. Just dealing

with them had nothing to do with the toys, but

just dealing with just shitty business practices

is... actually what got me out. A buddy of mine

who was on the last special episode where he

talked about exploring fandoms, Dave Draper from

toyworldorder .com, I had told him once off air,

I said, because of all my Maddie issues, I said,

I'm not going to the toy stores. I'm not going

to Walmart. Whenever I go to Walmart and Target,

I never go to the toy aisles anymore. I have

no interest. I honestly have no, like, I'll look

at the pictures online and I think they're super

cool, but I have no interest to walk down a toy

aisle. ever again. And that is all stemmed from

my dealings with mattycollector .com and Digital

River. You might want to speak to somebody about

that. You're a very forwarder. I'm not saying

I hate toys. I'm saying that I just choose not

to go like, OK, when the first generation stuff

came out, War for Cybertron Optimus, Soundwave,

all that stuff. Went to the toy aisle every every

time I went into Walmart and Target because I

wanted to see what they had and Now I just don't

care to do it anymore. Yeah, I just don't care

about it Um, like I said, I will look at pictures

online and I think oh hey that tool that that

tool that toy is super cool Well follow server

turn optimist toy is a tool but you know, I Would

go, you know I can look at stuff online. I'm

like, hey, that's super cool. I have no desire

to have it in my collection. Even characters

that I bought that I thought I was going to like,

I would, even before my financial situation happened,

it would be like, okay, these are, you know,

sitting amongst my collection or sitting on my

desk where they're displayed on my little stand

here where my monitor sits and whatever else.

And it'd be like a week later, it's like, I don't

give a shit about this figure. And I would go

up to the comic shop and sell it to them. I just

didn't, I don't know, I just, something happened

to me between 2010 when I lost the job, and of

course the financials jewelry, but something

mentally happened to me to where it was like

I started not caring anymore. I think, again,

your psychology, honestly I think it was your

mind started associating so many bad things.

With Matty. Well, not, I mean Matty was part

of it. You know, but now you look at your financial

situation and all of that put together. I don't

think it's just Maddie. I think it really is

just the negative. Maddie was the tipping point.

I'm sure I'm sure probably was but like, you

know, I mean you didn't have the money to buy

it So you started kind of resenting the people

that maybe did have the money to buy the cycle

analyst I'm just saying I mean, it's it's it's

a possibility where you you you look I'm gonna

say this right now with a straight face I was

never jealous that you got whatever you got or

that Ben got whatever he got or that Spada got

whatever he got. Not so much that. Maybe jealous

of the fact that we still could. No, not even.

Not at all. I think it was like you didn't have

that feel good when you open up a toy. You play

with it. Like Paul said, he played with it for

half an hour. You were just like, set it on your

desk. OK, now what? What's the point? It's like,

what do I do with it? It's just there. It's kind

of like for me where I lost interest in doing

actual YouTube videos where more so most of the

stuff I upload now is like video versions of

the podcast that we do here at GeekCast Radio

Network. I just lost interest in reviewing stuff.

I lost interest in talking about, you know, the

toys that I had. And again, it goes to the fact

that, like I said, within six, eight months a

year, I moved like four or five different times.

And right now I don't have I went from a two

bedroom apartment to a one bedroom apartment.

I don't have the space. One of the reasons why

I don't have the space is because back when my

mom was still living here in Louisville was that

she had gotten a settlement from, my grandmother

had passed away. in 2007, my grandfather had

passed away in 2000, but my grandmother passed

away, they had to settle the estate and my mom

got some money from the estate. And I told her,

I said, I really want, one of the things I really,

really want is a decent computer desk for my

computer equipment and all the, I wasn't into

podcasting just yet then, but I wanted something

that wasn't just this tiny. you know, piece together

Walmart thing where, you know, you have to basically

scrunch up your knees to sit there in front of

the computer and lean over like, uh, I am the

freaking, uh, hunchback of Noter computer, whatever,

you know, um, so I told her, I said, that's what

I want. And she went out and she got me a nine

by six foot desk. It's two pieces cost us $700.

That's really like if I ever move again I have

to make sure that my living room is big enough

to hold this desk because I'm never getting rid

of this desk Because this was a little like a

last -minute You know not last minute, but it

was like a last present from my grandparents

and all that stuff So that's you know part of

the space issue is my desk and yes my desk is

big enough where I can put You know toys and

stuff on but at the other apartment I had you

know three or four or five different shelves

I had different this different that you know,

but I you know that was part of my thing and

we've gone so far off track of talking about

the TV show, but I Understand it kind of leads

into what I mean the whole premise of the show

that you know it's there are underlining problems

right that this show It doesn't focus on them,

but they're they're there and they don't mention

them It's like the big giant elephant in the

room. Nobody wants to talk about The the the

psychological issues that you know these people

have I Mean, I think Elise whatever her name

is the hot chick the hot blonde chick I think

she from what I've seen of the show we're just

gonna call her the hot toy chick Yeah, yeah,

yeah, the hot toy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I think she

in her presentation she can you know kind of

be a mediator between the couples and stuff like

that but I don't think she's qualified to do

anything more than mediation because she's a

you know not even mediation she's just there

and I mean you can see it when they start you

know like with that when the the star wars and

diecast guys start getting like sick and kind

of getting annoyed with the whole thing she kind

of you you could see her like getting awkward

When arguing happens, the hot toy chick just

kind of gets awkward with things. She doesn't

know how to respond to that stuff. It's television.

We don't know what they cut out and what isn't

actually being shown to us. Right. Now, are you

guys going to continue watching Collection Intervention?

Oh, yeah. So we're all glutton for punishments

here, huh? You know, I mean it's and like I said,

it's you know, that's one thing I have learned

about that Well, I don't want to say I've learned

it but it's you know It kind of reiterated it

in my mind that you know a collection should

be enjoyed if it's in a closet if it's in a box

It's not being enjoyed, you know, and and most

of the stuff that I had that wasn't You know,

I mean there's two I look at it this way. There's

two types of collectors really there There's

you know people who collect for the enjoyment

of it, and then there's people who collect because

they want a really high -end kind of collection.

I mean, I have, I have, with the exception of

that stupid Supreme Optimus Prime from Transformers

Animated, to the best of my knowledge, I have

all of the Transformers Animated figures. And

those aren't really worth much. You know, I mean,

that's not a high -end thing for me, but it's

something that I enjoy displaying, and that's

what it comes down to. If I were to put those

away and put them in a box, I would probably,

I mean, I should sell them, because you're not

enjoying them at that point. In a collection,

for whatever reason, whether you're buying all

Minton box Transformers from, you know, 1986,

and if you want to have those displayed, that's

what you enjoy. Good on you. That's your collection.

My collection is opened up out and everybody

can see it So that's what that but one thing

like I said that i've gotten from the show is

that if you're not enjoying your collection It's

if it's locked away somewhere You need to just

let it go Yeah, I agree bob any uh, any final

thoughts? Buy a whole bunch of toys and I'm good.

Here we go. Let's not go there. I'm just saying

I mean, he's got a whole nother thing I mean

like he does I can't wait to that heiress. We're

kind of ripped that apart. I can't wait So let's

before we get into a whole schlong thing You

guys have Bob. Do you have any final thoughts

on either collection intervention or toy honor?

I say um people out there that are listening

that think that they see these shows and want

to be like that I'll want to be that guide that

that's my job to buy sell high -end collectibles

just don't do it because like paul told me a

long time ago you already missed the boat you

know it's like if you see people doing youtube

videos i want to do that i want to be make money

on youtube by making videos of transformers you

missed the boat it's already you're not going

to be able to do anything with it i mean that's

one of the things paul first told me so watching

these shows There's already a market. There's

already these new people coming in You're just

gonna get laughed at and not having any clue.

Well eBay says it's worth this, but that's eBay

That's not real life. You know what I mean? It's

like that's not what you're actually gonna get

and I think that's the fallacy of eBay is that

it's you know well Paul pointed this out to me

and and Other people have pointed out to me that

in order to do research for what stuff is going

for on eBay not the asking price, you have to

look at the fucking completed listings people.

Look at the completed listings. Look at what's

sold. That way you know, you can kind of judge

where to start your bidding. Now, if you want

to start your bidding at 99 cents and it's a

five day auction and it gets whatever the item

is, gets anywhere upwards of 200, 300, $400 plus,

that's all well and good, but don't sit there

and put a buy it now for ... you know 45 99 for

a toy that's 28 70 on a certain website or you

know, you know what I mean? Don't yeah Bragging

bragging about buying something for $100 at a

con and then trying to sell it for $400 on eBay

Yeah, people are gonna laugh at you go. Wait

a minute. You just bought it like a week ago

for a hundred bucks Why should I pay you? $300

extra the way you just paid for it. Yeah It doesn't

make any sense. It's like so eBay's like you

can't go off listing of that Your stuff isn't

worth what eBay says it is you have to go to

what the real fair market value is worth Look

at the price guides look at this and that and

I'm just afraid those shows are gonna Flood the

market with complete idiots that want to think

they can strike it rich You know real fast if

they find the number one Barbie. I paid 50 bucks

for it. I'm gonna get 5 ,000 for it Who's going

to buy it? If people wanted it so bad, there

wouldn't be any on eBay. If there's five on eBay,

why is there still five on eBay if people want

them so bad? There should be none because they're

all sold out. That's very true. It just drives

me nuts when people say that. Oh, I got something

really worth a lot. You look on eBay, there's

three pages of the same toy. Yeah. No, people

aren't buying them because there's three pages

of them. If there was like two, maybe, but not,

you know, two items, not three pages worth of

items of the same figure. Yeah. People aren't

buying them because there's three pages of it.

It's not rare. It's not like anybody could go

to eBay and buy one now. You don't have anything

that's worth anything. Right. I mean, what I

mean, I tell people this all the time. What something

is worth and what something people or what people

are willing to pay are two totally different

things. Exactly. I mean, it's like, you know,

I ran into that when I bought my Fort Max. You

know, people are asking $2 ,000 for it. And I'm

like, no, when they completed listings of it

only show that the things have been selling for

at most like $1 ,100. I'm not going to pay you

that much more for it. Don't be stupid. I mean,

it's be reasonable. with your stuff. I mean,

if you see something that's selling for it, you

know, people are smart for the most part. I mean,

they do stupid things, but, you know, I mean,

I got this one guy who I talked to, he lives

by me, and it's really kind of annoying. He always

messages me. He texts me. He's like, hey, Paul,

there's $20 a good price for this? I'm like,

look it up. Yeah. Well, I just thought I would

ask you. Well, I'm going to look it up. Yeah,

I saw me an eBay for $20 so I can get $20 out

of it He'll want to he'll want to buy a figure

that he sees at a local law like Collector shop

or something right? They'll have it for $20 and

it'll be like Paul is this worth 20 bucks. I'm

like Go on eBay and search the completed listings

see if it's selling for that or go on there even

you know even We're not even completed listings.

Go in there, just search, and see if you can

find it cheaper. All right, so that's going to

do it for our discussion on toy hunter and collection

intervention. I don't know if either one of them

are going to last. I hope that they do. But I

don't know if either one will last past the first

season. It gives us something to talk about.

I see collector intervention lasting longer.

than Toy Hunter only because, not because it's

better than the show. She's hotter. Well, she's

hotter, yeah. You see all these intervention

shows on TV and people watch those because they

want to see other people's lives. They feel better

about themselves looking at somebody else. I

don't necessarily see that happening with toy

hunter plus toy hunter is on a more obscure network

why would i mean we talked about this before

why would you think of a toy collecting show

being on a travel channel that's like me putting

uh... you know home improvement on the weather

channel network your food network or something

yeah i mean it's it's it just doesn't make sense

you know but and Nothing in this nothing in the

entertainment business makes any sense if you

really think about it So with that that's gonna

do it for this special edition of toy cast hopefully

we'll be back soon with episode 97 where Optobotamus

here is going to join me and Spada and we're

going to talk about some more toys. We'll catch

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