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Now, here's the show. This is Toycast. I am TFG1

Mike and joining me for this week's news episode

is Optibotamus. Hello sir. Good afternoon, evening,

and good morning. Yeah, something like that.

It's one of those three things everywhere in

the world at some point or another. It's afternoon

here and over in the UK it's like morning or

something, so it's backwards. It's actually 10

o 'clock at night over there. They're five hours

ahead of the eastern seaboard, so... Oh, well,

I don't know anything. Yeah. I don't pay attention

to them crazy foreigners. I love a lot of them,

though. What the hell has been going on with

you? It's been a while since you've been on the

show. What has been going on? Not much of anything.

It's been busy, but it's boring. Work -related,

a lot of hockey stuff. A lot of it a lot of it

has been hockey stuff That's really that's really

it's boring Yeah, I'm so glad that Red Wings

hashtag is gone now well hopefully if uh See

now there there's there's there's a little bit

of history here You know the Red Wings are obviously

out of it which upsets me, but the Tampa Bay

lightning Which is now ran? by a former Detroit

Red Wings, his name is Steve Iserman. Hall of

Famer, great guy. He's the embodiment of everything

that was good about the Red Wings during the

80s, 90s, and early part of 2000. And he's over

there running things at Tampa Bay, and Tampa

Bay was a dismal team before his arrival, and

now they're looking really good, so. We got our

fingers crossed that Tampa Bay will do it. They're

uh, they're a little bit further. They're in

the Eastern Conference finals Yeah, oh our fingers

are crossed. So we us Red Wings fans. They'll

have something to look forward to So I don't

think I've ever really asked you the genesis

of this but explain how the hell team bottom

has came about Like not just like I know you

like I'd mention you about doing a fan page for

it, but like start from the beginning. You know

what? It's one of those things where I honestly

don't even specifically remember how it started.

There's a guy that follows me on Twitter. His

name is James Hannigan. Hannigan, Hannana, Hanna.

I can't ever say it. Jamie Hannigan, yeah. Hanna,

Hanna, Hanna, Hanna, Hanna, Hanna. That's what

I'm going to call him. I affectionately call

him Jimmy Boy. Now, Jimmy Boy. was always talking

about doing things like that and creating fan

pages and stuff. This was before you even came

up with the idea. Right, right. I've toyed with

the idea for a little bit, but I'm one of those

kind of people that I don't particularly like

admitting, I guess, that I have fans. With BotCon

rapidly approaching and people constantly messaging

me asking me if I'm going to be there because

they want to meet me, I think the reality of

me having a fandom is sort of sinking in a little

bit more. So, that being said, it's a play off

of the whole Team Conan when... When that whole

thing was going down with Conan O 'Brien and

various other network television studios and

such So it was it's kind of like a play off of

that where it initially was going to be your

either your your team bottomist or your team

PR or your team JT Mitchell and It never really

picked up with any of everybody or anybody else

except for just me so It's just one of those

things where if you're I don't want to necessarily

say a fan of mine because it primarily made up

of people that I Consider friends I suppose so

if you're you're a friend of mine it you're kind

of in team bottom s and that was Well, and it's

I guess I should say it goes even further back

than the whole team Conan thing because there's

the whole with Twilight um you're I oh god. Yeah,

okay? Yeah, I think it goes back further. The

whole origin of, you know, team, whatever, you

know, goes back to way back. Yeah, oh my god.

So, um... Let's distance ourselves from that

crap. I was trying to. I was trying to. So, that

being said, you know, they started doing that,

and then several local friends of mine... joined

me on a Ustream a couple times and they were

affectionately nicknamed the Mexabots because

they're Mexican and they're part of Team Bottomist

so it was just this really kind of goofy thing

and those two guys decided they're like you know

we want to make it a whole fan page for Team

Bottomist and I'm like I don't care what you

do just go ahead and do it but then they kind

of went retarded and they didn't do it and And

that's when I said I'm gonna fucking do it and

then I never did it It just kind of it just kind

of kept getting pushed off and I'm like, you

know what? I'll just do it but I'll let you guys

run it and do whatever you want with it So I

was bored one day and I I made it. Yeah, I mean

it's it's just honestly what it is is it's just

a place for all of your friends whether they're

the friends that you know where you live or the

friends that you have online it I don't see it

as people that comment on your YouTube videos

that you just don't know. I don't see it as random

people. I see it as people that you interact

with on a daily or weekly or whatever basis.

You know, that's that's what I really see it

as it's more so for you know All of us people

who are friends with you can gather and becomes

friends with each other So that's that's the

way I I really don't even see it as an actual

fan page. I mean, I just thought It's what it's

a clubhouse where people get out but Okay, wait

a second I wish you hadn't even said that because

now I'm getting all these rascals flashes in

my head Okay, the he -man -woman -haters club

and who's alfalfa and who's spanky? We don't

need to start we don't need to um Name names

or anything, but I think Mikey would like being

alfalfa Just putting that out there just putting

that out there but no you're right it's you know

i mean but i it's one of those things where it

could grow into something else uh i suppose just

because of the nature of the way everything works

uh but right now initially it's just like you

said just just a fun place to kind of hang out

where everybody who kind of knows me it's like

a hub where you can meet other people it's uh

It's the match .com of... I was going to say

you need to be really careful how you're going

to phrase this. It could be misconstrued horribly,

but I don't think we have any females a part

of Team Bottomless. The way I saw it when I asked

you about it originally, the way I saw it was

it's a way for the rest of us that do videos

like me, like Spada. Whoever else does videos.

I know a few of the other people do videos as

well like Like Bob The way I saw it was it's

a way for us to share our stuff with each other

through you so It's kind of like instead of asking

you to oh, hey, can you promote this video on

your channel for two and a half days? You know,

it's kind of like oh, hey, here's our channel

and here's what we have going on and it's time,

you know Like you said, it's a hub of information

and friendship, pretty much. Yeah. It just has

my name kind of stuck to it, which, I mean, it

didn't need to have my name. Well, the logo's

pretty cool, so I mean, yeah, it needed to have

the name. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the thing. Jimmy

Boy is the one who made the logo. He actually

made a couple of the other ones. He made the

one with Berger. Burger approved, I saw that.

So cool. It was pretty good. I had toyed with

the idea, because BotCon is coming around, I

had toyed with the idea of creating business

cards that I could hand out to people at BotCon.

I toyed with the idea of having that logo on

it, but I'd been too lazy. Well, get your ass

in gear. BotCon's less than, what, two weeks

away? Yeah, two well one. Yeah, no it's It's

like two and a half weeks away. Yeah, two two

weeks two weeks in two days. So 16. Yeah 16 days

Yeah, so as in gear Lazy But yeah, so that's

the that's the story of a team bottom is It is

time for the news. Yes, that's right. And first

up we have NECA gremlins mogwai prototypes This

is right up your alley You know It is it is because

I'm a big fan of NECA that that's not a secret

in I love how a company. I don't care what company

it was. I mean, McFarland's kind of done some

stuff, but Nacca really has grabbed these, what

I'll dub as cult classic type of movies, and

given them decent figures form, things that,

and if anybody's watched my Terminator reviews,

I've specifically said that I've waited 20 years

to have decent figures from these movies, and

The, uh, the Magwa, I mean, just the Gremlin's

figures in general all look fantastic, but it's

one of those things where I'm nervous about getting

them because I'm afraid that it's going to turn

into I have to get every single one of them.

Well, I mean, so far, there's only four or five

of them or six of them or whatever, so, I mean,

that's not... that bad yeah but they could very

well and that's true i mean and it depends on

the price obviously well now i don't think that

these i think these are obviously going to be

smaller size figures i don't know the actual

scaling on them but they don't look too big uh

at least at least the i mean I don't know. I

don't know. The regular, you know, like Gizmo

and Mohawk and all these little guys, those are

much smaller than when they turned into the ugly

ass gremlins. Yeah. In this series for NECA,

series one and series two, we have Mohawk, Gizmo

Rambo mode, Gizmo regular mode times two, Lenny

and George. Right. Ain't really need to rewatch

gremlins and gremlins 2 because I do not know

who the hell Lenny and George are well Lenny

and George were in in in gremlins 2 they were

kind of like the You remember what was that movie

that it was Michael Keaton I want to say it was

multiplicity. Yep, and How after a certain amount

of time? you know that the genetic material got

a little watered down yeah and and you got you

got the goofy version towards the very okay yeah

i know yeah exactly what you're talking about

kind of what you're dealing with with lenny and

george you know and there were absolutely hilarious

little characters mohawk was always kind of the

badass um and then the rambo version of gizmo

was when he decided when gizmo decided he needed

to go in Beat all the other ones up. Yeah, pretty

much kick -ass All of them all of them look fantastic

I'm actually kind of impressed that they look

like they are decently articulated but I can't

wait to actually see an actual color image of

these because right now these are just prototype

like white Images, I mean they're just white

figures right now. Well if you if you look on

that link that you gave me for um Toy art they

have a couple colored images And if you if you

scroll all the way down, okay? Yeah, okay? See

how he's kind of You know a lot of people sit

there and you know I look at that and I see mud

flap You look at wait which one Lenny scroll

all the way down. Yeah The big buck -tooth looking

guy, that's Mudflap. It's either Mudflap or Larry

the Cable Guy. Yeah, you know, and if you actually

click on that same link on there, and obviously

you'll put all these in here, we're applicable.

There are 360 pictures of these guys, well, I'm

looking at Lenny specifically. Yeah. The coloring

on these things looks really good. I'm really

kind of impressed. And I'm even looking at it,

and I'm wondering if his ears are actually articulated.

I'm not sure. I would love to have seen. I don't

know. I don't see it here. I don't know if it

actually has it, but. I would have loved to have

seen someone post an image of all of these things

put together to see them side, like the color

images, see them side by side to see the actual

size difference. Because yeah, these images,

the size difference is much more viewable compared

to the white resin models. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and

there's a pretty decent picture of And it's not

one of the regular Magwai that you're looking

at. In the top picture there, it says Daffy,

which yeah, that does kind of look right. He's

painting it, and it looks like a fairly big figure.

Yeah, it does. These things might range between

five and seven inches seven inches is kind of

the standard for the the NECA figures So so between

five and seven inches, what would that be for

price point for NECA? You're looking at probably

anywhere between Probably twelve and fifteen

dollars. I would I mean Maybe even upwards twenty.

Well, it's not bad if they have you know, at

least five to seven points of articulation Yeah,

and from the looks of it, I mean it looks like

the head, well the best picture is the white

one. It looks like the head, obviously the head

can swivel, it looks like it might have some

shoulders, possibly even some rotation at the

elbow and rotation around at the hip. So it's

not too bad, but really with NECA, when you're

buying the figures, you're not buying them for

their articulation as much as you're buying them

for the level of detail. And oh, yeah, no, I

mean these are total display pieces. These are

not At least for us. I would think these would

be display pieces These would not be like play

play around action figures. These would not be

oh, I'm gonna smash into you gizmo, right? You're

absolutely right, but you know, it's that's that's

kind of the You know, the crux of NECA themselves,

you know, they put out decent, you know, slightly

articulated so you can get some kind of posability

statues of the guys. Yeah. Um, moving on, we've

got, uh, staying with NECA toys. Uh, yeah, um,

just when you thought they pulled me out, they

pulled me back in. We've got, NECA's doing a

Scarface figure. Yes. Now, I first, I first was

made aware of this in, uh, NECA on Twitter every

now and then releases, um, pictures of things

that they have coming out and what, you know,

showing off. And in one, one picture, there was

a white resin version and it was clearly Tony

Montana. And you could instantly tell who it

was. And I'm looking at, I'm like, Oh my God,

it looks fantastic. But now. The colored images,

as I said, NECA is kind of one of those, you're

buying them for the look and the detail. This

one does not look very good to me at all. Really?

The face on it just looks horrid. Absolutely

horrid. I mean, the rest of it is just, you know,

a standard body. I mean, it very well could be

just. a reused body with slight, you know, retooling.

But the head on it, I really don't like. He's

got the whole, like, with his lip is down and

like, I'm going to Montana. I mean, I, it, it,

ah, very disappointed in the look on that one.

Very disappointed. I'm hoping that it's just

a picture and that in actual toy form, it's going

to look a little bit better. But that's, it's

going to be one of those ones where, If I see

it in a store, that's what's gonna determine

whether or not I'd buy it. When I look at it

in the store in hand, if it looks good, I'll

probably buy it. If it's not, it's going back

on the shelf and I probably won't even think

twice about it. That's just me. Oh yeah, no,

that's more than fine. Yeah, I don't really have

any interest in it either, just because I'm not

really into those figures. The next news story

is we have in -package images of Masters of the

Universe classics Megator and Manny Faces. That's

my Megator impression. What do you think of Megator's

in -package picture? It kind of looks weird.

Kind of looks weird to me. I look at him and

it looks like he's got like this big grin on

his face He doesn't it I mean this is one of

the oversized figures. Yeah, so um I'm thinking

that he's probably gonna have similar articulation

to what to what Titus had which is not as good

as the regular figures and That's because, that's

probably because, not just because of Titus'

thing as well, but with Megator, he comes with

a huge giant ball and chain that's metal, so

I'm assuming all the budget went into that. Oh,

that's very possible, you know. Or some majority

of the budget went to that. It's very possible.

It's a decent looking figure. It's part of a

whole, you know, yeah, Titus and King Grayskull.

Backstory and stuff which is For the most part

just kind of made up BS that they're that they're

doing they they want to try to incorporate the

characters that were random in comic books and

things of that nature so they try to create some

kind of Storyline for them and that's fine. I

don't mind but it's I Don't know for casual fans.

This this is why I kind of don't like the whole

By I mean and we've never been on a show where

I've been able to talk about Masters of the universe

classics with you guys before but so I don't

know if this has been said but my one of my biggest

problems with the line is The whole subscription

idea now this it's a fantastic idea but they

don't tell you what figures you're getting and

You have to agree to buy whatever they give you

and this is a figure that I would not want so

You're paying the premium price for a big figure,

which is what 30 bucks. Is that how much this

thing goes for? Something like that, you know

30 or 40 dollars or whatever it is and this is

a character I have absolutely no interest in

whatsoever same with Titus Same with any of the

you know, the the the new adventure he man Yeah

crap, you know optic that was that was him There

are characters that I absolutely have zero interest

in yet when you sign up for the subscription

you're only told maybe like the first two months

of the subscription and you're signing up for

that and It's kind of a disappointment in my

mind and this is a figure that I wouldn't want

Yeah, and I I can kind of see your point and

I kind of agree with you, but at the same time

There's lots of like even after you buy the subscription.

There's lots of news I mean New York Toy Fair

up until then you've got you know up until Cinecom

Comic Con you've got Chicago C2e2 C3e3 whatever

the hell it's supposed to be You know see we

find out through the through the year what it's

gonna be or in the case of I I think it was the

case of New York Toy Fair they showed off everything

up until july or august right of course i and

of course a comic on they're going to show off

from september to december but again i see what

you're saying about like last year November,

whatever the cutoff date was to get a subscription.

I see what you're saying as far as not knowing

what it is, but we still knew. I believe we knew

in November last year that Bo or whoever was

going to be for the January figure. We were told

what the exclusive figure was going to be, and

we were told what the January figure was going

to be, which ended up getting reversed, I think,

too. Yeah, that's because Bo wasn't ready yet.

That's a whole nother thing to get into. You're

going to have to bring me on one of these shows

for Masters of the Universe. I know. We will.

And I understand what you're saying, that they

do at least let us know, but by that point in

time, it's already too late. We're already signed

up. We're already committed to it. They don't

have to tell us anything. The fact that they

do is, sure, it's nice, but most of the time

we find out like... Fuck all right. I signed

up for this. This is stupid. You know and that's

Let's move on to a character you do like That

I do like many faces, which it has always been

a favorite of mine has you know is many faces

and The character has always appealed to me was

always was always a fun character And I was always

wondering if they're actually gonna do this guy

I think he looks fantastic. I know there's some

kind of controversy with the coloring of him

because it was a... I think it was between the

original toy coloring or the comic coloring.

Right. Or like you could have half and half between

the two. Yeah. And there was a vote that Mattel

did and I believe that the toy coloring won out.

Yeah, something like that. But I mean... I just

really think that the figure is fantastic looking.

I love the way he looks. You look at that guy

and that is one decent thing that I can say about

the Masters of the Universe Classic line that

they do a very good job of harkening back to

the original figures and giving you that same

look and that same feel. This is a perfect example

of them. Taking what they already had with the

figure and just updating it and making it a much

better looking figure. This is definitely And

this these these are the August figures aren't

they? Yeah, Manny is Yeah, I believe so. Let

me look up here Manny and Megator are August.

Yeah, let's see coming with secret Both figures

coming with secret accessory Facebook page has

been updated with news item messiers classics

Yeah, these are the august figures So I mean

they still gave us and and they gave us these

back in the beginning of the year They gave us

these in New York Toy Fair But we still don't

know what said we the only thing that I really

know because I don't like really I haven't really

like I don't go over to Maddie collectors news

I don't go to Mattel's news. I don't go to like,

if I see something on Twitter or if I see something

on their Facebook page, I'll click on it. I'm

not so plugged in that I know every single thing

about the line, but I do know that there is one

outside of Queen Marlena, which is the SDCC exclusive,

there is one more female figure coming this year.

And I think that's pretty much all we know about

the rest of the subscription year. Well, is the

female figure you're talking about that new Teela?

So there's a battleground Tila will be coming

out She's not SDCC. She's she's before that Battleground

Tila I think comes out next month or I I don't

know No shit. No, there's one more there Apparently

there was gonna be three female figures this

year the battleground Tila, which is a tribute

to her comic book self Queen Marlana, which is

the SDCC 2011 exclusive and then one more oh

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, June June. It's

gonna be the faceless one battleground Tila and

then the issue of a grizzly or Right. Oh the

other one was catra, but the the fourth female

figure. We don't know what it is yet I'm trying

to think of who could be it's got to be someone

from She -Ra. I don't Think everybody's hoping

for a sorceress. I think they're hoping for a

sorceress, but I think I And I could be wrong,

but I don't think that's gonna happen I would

I mean like I know we probably won't get a Filmation

Sorceress obviously we may get like some sort

of comic image Sorceress or They could try to

do what they did with catra kind of oh, this

is the model sheet This isn't the cartoon they

could try to sneak that in honestly what I really

want is I would love to get a 2002 Sorceress

Yeah, and and that's I don't see why that wouldn't

be possible So that should be doable, but yeah,

so um Manny faces looks like pure win to me and

That's about it Megator looks like fuck kiss

And on that note, we're going to take a quick

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more news items here this time around it's all

about thundercats first up is the tower of omens

playset tower of giant ass yeah this thing doesn't

look too good it's terrible it's it comes with

like a gate a tower and then i don't even know

what like a little uh catapult maybe Yeah, the

only thing just the only thing that was halfway

decent About the whole thing is the um, and I

don't even know who that is a clear figure Tigra,

yeah, it looks like tiger. Yeah, I had to zoom

in and take a look. I mean that's that's kind

of cool Yeah, but no way am I gonna buy that?

This is like they could like We have come so

far since the 80s in toy design Like I know that

they're marketing these new toys to kids and

they also have the thundercats Classics or collectors

line or whatever the hell they're gonna call

the classic stuff for the 80s stuff But you mean

to tell me in almost 30 35 40 years. You could

not actually build a playset That doesn't have

two separate pieces. That is just one piece Like

that's one thing I never like I love Castle Grayskull

to death one thing I never understood about that

playset is it opening and the whole like I never

got that I oh I never had my Castle Grayskull

open But anyway, this thing is just so weird

looking It's terrible looking That's all that's

all I can say it's it's terrible looking Now

didn't we isn't there supposed to be another

version of I Swear I swear I saw it but a whole

you know the Thunder the Thundercats layer I

swear there's another version of the toy that

we saw at At the time was mean yeah There probably

is they're probably making it in two different

scales. I guess but I This is obviously the smaller

scale one, and the more that I keep looking at

the figure of Tigra, it doesn't even look like

he's articulated. Yeah. It doesn't look like

there's any knee joints or elbow joints. It looks

like we're getting a Green Lantern figure again

with this. No. So moving on to the thundercats

20 of 11 sword of omens and roleplay official

images Sword of omens deluxe sword of omens and

claw shield so Basically, you have two different

swords here, or is it one sword that does oh?

I see it's one sword that does it okay? That's

cool. It's it's got the whole you know extend

those sword thing going like the Star Wars sword,

but then It opens up, and you can do the whole

eye thing. It's really cool looking. The whole

glove idea, though, is... Yeah, that claw is

very anime style. Yeah, and that's one of my

biggest problems that I have with the whole new

cartoon. I don't particularly like the look of

it, but that's how I felt with Transformers Animated.

So hopefully... the story, which is what brought

me around for Transformers Animator. Hopefully

the story for the new Thundercats will make me

enjoy it. Yes. And then we have the Thundercats

vehicle assortment. Honestly, the vehicles that

they have listed here is Lizard Cannon with Slythe,

Thunder Racer with Lino, Thunder Racer with Tigra,

and Thunder Tank with Snarf. Shnarf aside, the

only one out of these vehicles that I'm really

looking forward to is that Thunder Tank. That

Thunder Tank looks amazing. I really do like

the look on that. Now, it appears that you have

these other little, what did you call them? These

little jet things on the side? Or these extra?

Thunder Racers? Yeah, the Thunder Racers. Those

appear to be, I'm guessing, I could be wrong,

but those appear to be sold separately. And it

looks like they attach on the side of the Thunder

Tank, which I think looks really cool. Yeah,

it does look really cool. The Thunder Tank itself

without the Thunder Racers looks amazing. Oh,

it does. It absolutely it absolutely does like

like I can hear the music swelling up right now

from the old show because That was one of my

favorite things about thundercats was every single

thing had its own theme song The sort of moments

had a theme the heroes had a theme the villains

had a theme every single vehicle had its own

theme song and I just love that thundercats that

that that that thunder tank theme music when

panthro would be working on it or when he would

be rescuing lionel on it it was just amazing

when it would just show up i mean it's it's without

a shadow of a doubt these i'm going to be buying

these yeah and and i mentioned this kind of before

you know and now i'm looking at the pictures

because those little speed racer doodads i'm

just going to call them thunder light cycles

because they look like light cycles from tron

But okay, that's what I'm gonna call them. Okay,

they play it from what I'm gathering They plug

they look like they push into a slide on the

side of the Thunder tank and when you push a

button the Thunder tank lifts its claw and the

little light cycle comes shooting out of it which

I Think looks great and they come with figures,

which is definitely nice. It comes with what

what's what we got We got Lionel there. Yes slide

Lionel and tiger. Yeah, so I mean But now I'm

looking at the figures and it looks as if they

have knee articulation but no elbow articulation.

Which, eh, I guess I can live with that because

the Thunder Tank is just that badass. I just,

I love the way it looks. I think it's fantastic.

I am instantly buying these things. In fact,

I know a guy who used to work for Bandai who

I'm gonna contact and see if he actually has

any buddies. You know, they might be about you

know, yeah, but these look These look really

super awesome. That thunder tank is is just nothing

but awesomeness right there So we are gonna move

on to a quick discussion about transformers surprise

surprise being former We are back and Yesterday

because we were recording this on the 17th May

16th 2011 was Dark of the moon day at toy stores

everywhere I love how people are giving in its

own special dark of the moon day Okay, so yes

the new line for the new movie there Supposedly

showing up or being at stores now There was a

bunch of people on Twitter Facebook wherever

YouTube wherever went out try to find some they

found some they didn't find everything because

obviously the stores were still putting the stuff

out You don't have to worry about dark of the

moon day Yeah, I mean people are like you're

not going out and you're not doing the great

toy hunt like the rest of us. I'm like No, I

don't need to but I love when Pia said on Twitter

Do you need a shockwave and you're like, are

you serious? Yeah, I'm like no. No, I'm fine.

Thank you but it you know, it's It's a new toy

line So there's going to be some excitement with

it and it's the new movie. Right. What cracks

me up is there's so much interest in going out

and buying these yet before these toys came out

and we were reviewing them everybody was hating

them. Like I'm not going to buy anything from

it yet all those people that I'm not going to

buy anything they're going out buying stuff.

So it's really kind of funny to see but mean

I I constantly told people you know they're like

I'm going out on um because it was Monday they

were released yesterday was Monday yeah and I

had people saying I'm so excited I'm going out

on the 15th and I'm gonna look for him and I'm

gonna find I'm gonna buy a bunch of them I'm

like yeah I'm like okay so 16 throws around and

obviously stores are gonna be putting them in

shelves and stuff but I tell these people I say

just because it's a release date doesn't mean

that stores are going to have them out. I mean

I'm curious and I didn't do it yesterday and

I should have just because I'm kind of curious.

I should have went to my local stores to see

if they actually put anything out because my

stores around here are usually pretty lazy about

doing that kind of stuff and I bet you from I

got I got two targets a Toys R Us and a Walmart

that I go to that's my in my immediate area.

I would bear I would guarantee you that at least

one of them one of those three they didn't put

anything out Just just because for whatever reason

they didn't get to it yet or whatever So I mean

everybody just magically saw the 16th is this

day that they're they're gonna walk in and like

It's like the pearly gates of heaven we're gonna

open up and there was gonna be darker than the

moon toys just all over the place and I'm like

you guys need to just relax a little bit Because

even if you are lucky and your store did stock

them, I'll bet you scalpers probably got those

things before you were going to. So. And I don't

know, but it's it's good buzz. I mean, I'm happy

to see people going out buying them. But it's.

Kind of to me. The only one that I'm really interested

in is Shockwave. He looks amazing. Leader Sentinel

looks good, but. I just don't like the alt mode

on him. Why? What's wrong with the alt mode?

I don't know, it looks weird. Weird how? I don't

know, it just, it looks weird to me. It doesn't

look like, well, I guess it's better than a snowplow.

Well, it's, is that because you're comparing

Sentinel Prime from the movie to Sentinel Prime

from animated? No, I'm not really comparing them.

I'm just saying the, when I first saw the videos

of him, The alt mode to me. What is he supposed

to be a fire engine? He's he's what is known

as a Rosenbauer? Fire truck or whatever he is

His alt mode is one of the fire trucks that's

used in heavy -duty Type of firefighting such

as when there is a plane accident on a runway

in an airport Okay, see I don't think I've ever

seen a fire truck look like that Even ones that

do that kind of stuff. I just don't see I Don't

think in in real life in movies and TV. I don't

think I've ever seen a firetruck look like that

As far as just the overall He looks more like

a fire truck military carrier thing rather than

an actual regular old fire He's a fire truck

that I mean they use them on military bases as

well Fair enough. It is accurate looking. Regardless

if you think it's weird, it's an accurate representation

of that style of fire truck. That's cool. So

if you hadn't have gotten the figures when you

did, what would you be hunting for if you were

hunting? I'd probably buy anything. I like that

some people actually set themselves a cap this

year with this line instead of what they did

with the Revenge of the Fallen line. Yeah, because

that's obviously, that always works. And I say

this a lot to a lot of people that the figures

that are from the Dark of the Moon line are not

bad figures. They have problems, but that's true

with everything. Our biggest problem, in my opinion,

is that we constantly compare what we're getting

to what we already got. For example, a lot of

people really like Top Spin. A lot of people

really like Road Buster. They like Megatron.

But that's because these are all brand new. There's

nothing previous to compare them to. Now, I know

you can say Megatron, you know we've got another

Megatron period, but we never got one where he's

a trough. Right. So, um... I don't know, it's...

Everyone's like, you know, well... You know,

and Skids is kind of a worthless piece of crap

toy. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's Skids. There's...

You know, I mean, people look at him, you know,

like, ooh. The Ratchet figure, that's a nice

figure, but he's too small. you know or Bumblebee

oh no it's another Bumblebee figure you know

the one of the biggest things is we when you

compare toys from the original g1 toys to toys

that we have now from the movie we you know in

the early in the 80s we had a shit ton of transformers

they weren't always on the show they were on

the show every other show or whatever i mean

hoist wasn't in it all the time but we got a

toy so there was always there was always places

for Hasbro and Takara to go to make a new toy

or uh you know or whatever now we're limited

to Bumblebee and Optimus Prime and Megatron and

Starscream and Ironhide you know we we have a

very limited number of actual Transformer characters

so in my mind it naturally makes sense for Hasbro

to do a lot of one character you know that's

why we have a shit ton of bumblebees my problem

with the bumblebee shit ton is that it's like

probably I think in my opinion the best one that

I've seen so far is the human alliance one but

the rest of them They change paint colors here

and there a little bit. They change black to

maybe a lighter shade of gray. They'll change

the transformation in each one. And obviously,

the bumblebees are over several different class

types. Right. The only way that they are going

to get me to buy a movie bumblebee, and I don't

count the Transformers Prime version as movie

bumblebee because that's... for the cartoon.

The only way I would ever buy a movie Bumblebee

is if they made him a damn convertible. Bumblebee?

Yes, Bumblebee. Why would you want Bumblebee

as a convertible? Because it's something different.

It's not something that happened every other

toy in the line. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

I mean... Because you can't use the whole thing.

Well, he never was a convertible in the movies.

Well, he was never a black and yellow You know

true paint, you know, so I mean that you can't

really Use that as a but I mean, yeah that definitely

makes sense. My biggest thing is It's bumblebee

so this is who has bro and who the movie people

have focused their attention on Primarily because

and it was even said that you know the Transformers

movie At least the first one was about a boy

and his car so Naturally, we're gonna get a lot

of bumblebees bumblebee kind of went away in

the second movie There's there's a lot of problems

with the second movie just in general, so it's

hard to Really kind of point your finger at something,

but right I mean With Bumblebee he kind of like

faded away. I mean and it's my girlfriend made

a good point. She's when Optimus Prime died in

the second movie My girlfriend's like why Sam's

so upset about that. He didn't really hang out

with prime You know in like the first movie or

really care about him. It was always him and

Bumblebee So I'm like, yeah, it's a good point,

you know, maybe they should have had Bumblebee

die in that scene. It would have been more powerful

I mean and it would have made more sense to the

audience who we were introduced as you know,

it's Bumblebee and Sam, you know in their relationship

but It's with the toys. It's just something that

I think we're gonna have to deal with I mean,

I think that with movie Bumblebee the other thing

with movie Bumblebee is you can market him 20

million different ways to children. Yeah, you've

got the like look at targets exclusives you had

the transforming dvd case of optimism only right

you've got face masks uh... roleplay helmets

roleplay blasters whatever you've got all the

stuff that you can market towards kids and you've

got all these other toys that you can market

towards other like you know teenagers or even

collectors as well uh... i just want something

different for bumblebee i mean i'd just I get

that there are certain ones that could potentially

be the penultimate bubble bee like Human Alliance,

like whatever the leader version of him is gonna

be, whatever. But I'm tired of seeing the same

old damn toy all the time. Yeah, and I think

they've gotten better. With the first movie,

there was a lot of just straight up repaints.

I think subsequently with The Revenge of the

Fallen and Now Darker than Moon, They've repainted

them, but they've retooled them a little bit.

Right. So it's a little bit different. And that's

where I was kind of saying in some of my other

reviews that it's a little bit different. I mean,

obviously it's the same character, but it's a

little bit of a different transformation in some

of them that it gives you, you're not bored doing

it. You know and we've already gotten I mean

in in the first in the first I don't I don't

know if it's the first wave or not But we already

got two completely different transforming bumblebee

figures You got you got the regular dark in the

moon deluxe and then you got the nitro bumblebee

Yeah, so I mean, I think they're getting better

with it But I think a lot of people the biggest

reason that they're just getting sick and tired

of movie toys is because they're the same characters

over and over again with slight modifications

that go towards perfecting the figure but then

it's like I already got three versions before

this why do I want to buy another one knowing

that another version is going to come out yeah

so the ultimate the ultimate bumblebee would

be like the the battle blades bumblebee but in

the dark of the moon look because I mean obviously

it looks a little bit different he's got the

spoiler yeah and uh different kind of um paint

or um you know the the paint striping yeah pin

striping i don't know what whatever um that would

make me happy but but i don't know human i mean

the human alliance would be even better if we

could get a a new human alliance version of bumblebee

especially if this is going to be the last movie

then that's potentially this is the last time

we're going to see this specific look for bumblebee

so who knows Yeah Like I said before for me personally,

I've never liked movie toys. The only we only

there's only two out of the entire How long is

this damn line we going three four five years

now? You know, there's only two figures out of

the entire line that I actually like which is

deluxe ravage the original deluxe ravage with

the purple eye and This new Voyager shockwave

You got a thing for one eyes, huh? That was a

horn honking in the background ladies and gentlemen,

yeah Sorry about that But yeah, you you apparently

have a thing for toys with one eye I Mean I I

Don't know why you don't like them. I have no

idea. I just like I like the designs in the film

I just don't like the the way that they Translate

I don't like the way a lot of them translate

the toy form because it's like I get why on screen

that they have to show every working piece and

part. Right. I don't understand why on the toys

they want to do that as well. I'm the type of

person that take, where's, where the hell's RC,

where the hell's she go? With RC. Take animated,

and I know these are two different styles, but

take animated Rotomus for example. You don't

see every working piece looking at him straight

on yes You see you know his little mud or not

mud bluffs you see his little pipes on his legs

But you don't really see his wheels Under his

chest or or on his arms if you're just looking

at him straight on you see just the outside of

the the exoskeleton of the figure I don't like

seeing the working gears, but you're also comparing

a I know I'm comparing two extremely different

toy lines not even toy lines. You're comparing

a cartoon to live action. Do you expect detail,

do you expect to have a real life car transform

into something that looks like a human and not

show any kind of sign that he was a car before?

I don't know, it's just... I mean, that's the

entire gist of the whole thing. That's why people

that do not like these movies, I hate the Bayverse.

The only way you can make those people happy

is if you created a new movie that was entirely

cartoon. Because in the cartoon world, you can

ignore things such as the laws of physics. So

it's I know I'm being unrealistic here. I'm just

saying that's we are you absolutely ever you're

not the only one You're not the only one a lot

of people sit there and complain about I'm like

you guys don't understand that Michael Bay because

everybody trashes Michael Bay, and I'm I'm firmly

a defender of him Everybody trashes him about

these and he want all he wanted to do was make

these movies realistic So, right away he said

there's not going to be any mass shifting because

you can't explain that. There's no way in a story

that has, you know, in 2011 now, or even 2007,

there's no way that you can scientifically explain,

you know, I mean, granted these are alien robots

and so on and so forth, but there has to be some

kind of a level of believability. With it you

can't just say that a gigantic, you know And

that's why he said that the the original Optimus

Prime the flat nose whatever kind of Semi truck

they couldn't use that because if he transformed

without mass shifting he would be too small he'd

be like 20 feet tall and That's it and they wanted

Optimus Prime to be like 40 feet tall Know and

I get it like I don't have a problem with the

actual film designs I just don't like seeing

those design. I just I don't like those type

of toys I mean like like shockwave I can overlook

because he looks so awesome Ravage I can overlook

because he looks so awesome because there isn't

a whole lot of guts showing out of them But just

I don't know man that those uh... this is my

opinion of course i you know i i i can go and

look at other lines i can look at generations

i can look at whatever else they're gonna have

so i mean there's so much out there right now

for transformers that no one has to just all

this is the movie line this is all we get boo

there's so i mean granted some of the generation

stuff isn't showing up now because dark of the

moon launched but you know i mean there's still

other lines and other stuff that the rest of

us can have that really don't care about the

dark of the moon stuff See, and I don't... Not

even necessarily, you know, Darker Moon. It's

like... You look at the Revenge of the Fallen

Leader Optimus Prime, that thing is a marvel.

Now, it's a toy, and it's ridiculously scaled

down. Now, my comment to you about not liking

the way that the toy aesthetic is, is you're

taking something that has, you know, thousands

and thousands of moving parts. on a CGI screen

to make it look from you know from a robot to

a car or whatever now you're scaling it down

to a toy and you have like 50 moving parts and

you have to you have to accomplish the same thing

so it's not fair to draw those kind of comparisons

at least in my opinion now i mean you don't have

to like the way they look but it's i i just don't

think uh People really give it a fair comparison.

I mean you're not comparing apples to apples

Yeah, and that's that's all I'm gonna say about

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