1989 Batman Toys: From Toy Biz to Hot Toys

Hi, this is Dan Gilbazan, and you're listening

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cast. I am your host if you and Mike joining

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gonna be like this is jeopardy So as you people

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trades and master of none exactly And we also

have Steve Megatron Hello unceremoniously introduced

Feel bad now. I stole the I screwed up the whole

thing. Yes I'm just gonna stop talking right

now. Yes. Yes, you should or not So we are here

in episode 89 to talk about the 1989 Batman Tim

Burton Michael Keaton film the action figures

and the toy line from that film by toy biz because

the Kenner stuff didn't happen till the second

movie. Steve, what do you remember from having

these toys as a kid? I remember owning quite

a few different incarnations of Batman himself.

I remember having granted it's not from the first

film but it's I had the Batmobile. But I did

have the Michael Keaton likeness of the Bruce

Wayne to Batman conversion costume. Cool. You

sound really excited when you said that, Mike.

Shut the hell up. What else did you have, Steve?

I had the Joker figure actually Yeah, I'm looking

at a picture of Joker and it doesn't look too

good. No, it wasn't I actually broke his arm

off and he remained that way until I Pond him

and then I bought the actual good Joker figures

that had nothing to do with the films. Yes What

about you Paul? What do you remember from collecting

these toys? You know what? When it comes to the

toy biz ones, I don't remember having anything

from them. The funny thing is I've been scouring

the Internet before we started recording this

podcast. I've only been able to find the Batman

figure, the Joker figure, Bob the Goon and the

Batmobile. The end of the Batcave playset. That's

the only images I've been able to find so I'm

thinking That's all that toybiz made. I made

a joker mobile Right, right, right. They made

a joker van and they made a joker cycle and they

made about had the joker cycle. Yeah, I Mean

I know I I'm trying to I mean I pulled up pictures

myself just to kind of look at it again. I Want

it? I remember Have did that joker squirt? Yes,

the one is not the not the bike one the other

one did yeah Yeah, the one with the ugly looking

one the one that doesn't even look like the movie

one um I remember having that I never had Bob

Batman I Don't necessarily see the biggest problem

is I mean I remember having that Batmobile in

fact I probably had it not too terribly long

ago I want to say that I had it when I moved

here in California, and then it was in a big

bag of Stupid toys that I had that I'm like I

don't want these anymore, and I threw them away,

and that was Several years ago, and I had that

Batmobile in there, but it was in terrible shape

Okay, I was gonna say if it was in like mint

and box. I would have killed you no no no It

was, I mean, the biggest thing is, as a kid,

I mean, I played with my stuff. I mean, my stuff

was really all sorts of worn out from play. So,

I mean, the biggest problem that I have is, like,

a lot of this Batman stuff, I get wrapped up

in getting them confused with the stuff that

I eventually really had, and that was the Kenner

stuff. Right the Kenner stuff came with like

Batman Returns forever and Batman and Robin right

and But that be but that being said even I mean

they even went back and covered I Mean they were

rebranded, but it went back and they covered

the first movie stuff You know like I mean we

see this ugly Joker from Toy Biz and then the

Kenner Joker Which came out in, you know, the

Batman Returns line and then the Dark Knight

line and all that other crap. You know, that

one is the more Jack Nicholson looking Batman,

or Joker figure. But that wasn't in the first

movie, or in the first wave of those toys. I

shouldn't even call them first wave, but first

branding of those toys. So... In my mind, I always

get kind of confused between the two because

even to I mean to this day I mean I have a couple

of them still and I mean I recently went bought

a few of them and made him part of the little

retro review thing that I was doing there for

a little bit and I I Love those little things.

They're fun They are I mean, I agree. I'm not

disagreeing with you. I agree. They are. They

are fun. I mean, the whole the Joker one that

I had, you know, was super fun. I mean, I think

I actually did it in my retro review where I

dunked his head in water and I changed his face

color. It's it turns his face pink. It doesn't

make it flesh color, but it's I mean, you know,

so you can have a white face or a. Color changing

phase. I mean that that was that's cool stuff,

dude. I ain't even I ain't even playing that's

that cool shit. Yo word Word but I mean other

than that, I mean the toy this stuff I mean,

I remember a lot of the toy this stuff is being

kind of uh really kind of cheesy and very blah

Yeah, it was I mean the the Batmobile is probably

the best part about the toy biz line Yeah It

just is Right. I mean and it's I mean look looking

I mean looking at here I mean a lot of these

toy biz things were carried over from the previous

toy biz superpower collection figures and You

know, I mean those are Mean I see him every now

and then here and there. I mean I go to a you

know a local Collector show sort of thing and

you know I go through there and I see a lot of

them still and When I look at him, I just instantly

think cartoon just really really cartoonish.

Yeah, and that's Yeah, but I mean it gave way

to better stuff. Yeah for me it look like I said

I had the Not Jack Nicholson Joker from the toy

biz line. I had the Batman I had I Think I had

multiples of Bob the goon because I think at

the time at least in my area in Massachusetts

Bob the goon was a shelf warmer Which is really

weird now because he is like super rare now.

He's a tough one. Yeah I had the Batmobile. I

had the shields. I know I've told this story

before but tell it again My mom and I were going

to the Kingston mall and it was like I don't

know a week before my birthday or something and

I just I Saw the Batmobile in there and I really

really wanted it ended up throwing a temper tantrum.

Obviously I didn't get it till a week later on

my birthday, but So that's so kids that's what

you do if you want something throw a temper tantrum.

Yes. Yes. Yes mommy and daddy Anyway, anyway,

you know so I had the Batmobile. I absolutely

loved the Batmobile. It was so cool. Even though

the shield thing, it was designed in the way

of the way that it looked in the movie, it was

just a piece of plastic. And usually mine probably

would have ended up getting ripped or bent or

something like that. But just having that extra

accessory was really, really awesome. I think

we're going to shift gears onto what the toy

company that does So much and costs a house payments

to get a toy from them all for the love of God

That was beautiful We're gonna talk about hot

toys and they're a high -scale Batman Joker Batmobile

The Batmobile from hot toys looks Freaking amazing.

Yeah, it just does I know I'm probably going

to put at least one of these images, probably

the one with the shield in it, in the web post.

But I mean, oh my god, if we had this as a kid,

oh man, this would have made Playtime so much

better as kids because this thing is freaking

awesome. I know. For people that aren't familiar

with hot toys, hot toys, I mean, who isn't? But

I mean, realistically. Hot Toys make adult collectibles

in a 1 -6 scale, which basically means they're

roughly about 12 inches tall when it comes to

the figures themselves. Assuming that the average

male is 6 feet tall, 1 -6 scale would mean the

figures are about 12 inches tall. I mean you

and I've talked about this you know prior before

Mike that you know the 89 Batman you know and

even you know Batman returns things of that nature

That's my favorite incarnation of Batman, so

when I first saw that they were Doing these hot

toys. I hadn't had any hot toy figures at that

time. I mean yes, they're very expensive and

they're very big That's that that for me is the

biggest downfall for hot toy figures because

they're so big they take up so much space and

You know, they're they're pretty expensive, you

know, the Batman figure alone is $250 and Now

you get a now I mean people be like, oh, that's

so expensive I mean you got to take into consideration

that yes, they're 12 inches tall they're articulated

up the wazoo the sculpt and likeness on these

things are unmatched by anything. The accessories

for them. For Christ's sake, I mean, look at

the Batman on here. It's got Keaton's chin. Oh,

yeah. I mean, there is, you know, the amazing

thing is that that chin is, I mean, there's three

different, I think it's three, three different

chin pieces. And they're held on, I don't know

if they're actually held on magnetically, but.

That chin that chin can actually remove and then

you can swap out the different faces or different

you know Flesh part of the the face because you

know the actual cowl doesn't remove or anything

But if you just take that chin piece and anybody

around our age if we if we went up to them And

we just showed them that chin piece I would guarantee

you that nine out of ten people would know who

that is or who it's supposed to be Just showing

from you know, like the nose down to the chin.

I mean that little bit right there That's how

that's how amazing the detail is on these things.

So $250. Yes, it's pretty expensive But when

you consider the amount of detail that goes into

it all the accessories that go along with it

I mean hell this this figure has that That iconic

scene in the movie, you know, we're Joker's like

where does he get these wonderful toys? You know,

he's got that sticks it in what the hell was

that noise? Just keep going. Oh, he's you know,

we're you know, Batman swoops in to save Vicky

Bale and he pulls out like this gun looking thing

and you know points it at Joker's face Pushes

the button and then all of a sudden like it springs

out to the side and then it blows out the giant

string things that he swoops away with The actual

toy has that feature where those little prong

things can actually swivel out to the side and

I'm like That's just a wonderful touch that they

didn't need to do And I think it's awesome now

you look at the Batmobile now and again this

Batmobile is my favorite version of the Batmobile

ever created Even going back. You know I mean

as as a kid I had that Batmobile from the toy

biz line right always wanted the subsequent released

Batman returns Kenner version which featured

the bat missile I like that a little bit more

because one of the reasons I didn't care for

the Toy Biz one was because it didn't have that

cockpit top. That's what we'll call it. We'll

call it the cockpit top. It just had the open.

It had a windscreen in the front and had an opening.

It was very much like all the other Batmobiles

in the past. And one thing that I liked about

this was even when I saw the movie, I loved the

fact that it had a canopy that came up and covered

the actual cockpit. I thought that was really

cool. And I'm like, yeah, that makes sense, because

I understand it's nice to have it where you can

jump out when you're... What the hell is that

dude's name? The old Batman. Old. Adam West.

Adam West, thank you. It makes sense that you

don't have a top so you can get in and out of

it, but it's like... You should have like a door

or something but that one was always retarded

and expensive to get you know and then you look

at you look at this one here and They have it

it slides back and forth just like it did in

the movie hell. It's got an actual display stand

that Replicates how it was in the Batman Returns

movie when he would you know want to turn like

if he was facing one way and obviously The Batmobile

can't make dramatic turns, you know, on a dime.

So he's got, like, this hydraulic piston that

comes out from the bottom of it, lifts the car,

rotates it, drops it back down, and he can drive

off in, you know, a completely different direction

in a matter of seconds. They include that with

this thing. Now, the biggest problem is this

thing is, like, $600. Yeah. That's... That's...

But again... But again, that's $600 of a toy

that has literally, I mean, essentially that's

almost like having the real Batmobile. I mean,

in terms of dimensions, I don't remember how

big it is. But if I'm not mistaken, it lights

up. It's got all that stuff. But the most impressive

thing about this is you're literally going to

need a coffee table to display this. It's so

badass looking, though. Yeah. Mean I I don't

I usually don't you know plug other other youtubers

because I hate all other youtubers I should be

the only one on YouTube But I watched a video

that Sean long did and he was at I want to say

it was last year's comic -con and He was standing

next to it now. I've personally been next to

Sean and he's a pretty small dude I mean he like

comes up to like my mid -chest that I'm like

six three so he's like five eight or something

like that Yeah, this this thing. I'm sitting

here watching. I'm like Sean you could probably

crawl in there and drive away I mean, it's this

thing is massive and not only you know all the

other batmobiles I don't remember did it you

know Steve you said that you had the The bat

missile one did that hold two people did that

have hold two like action figures? It just held

one action figure now Okay, that's the same thing

as the toy biz one this one this hot toys one

holds two people So I there's actually I mean

there's there's a picture here um where you can

see Batman, and there's a whole nother half of

the car Where if they ever came out with a Vicky

Bale you could sit her next to Batman and I?

mean it's Uber Uber ethic I don't even know how

to describe it it you know the detail on here

is phenomenal you look at on the inside You know

the cockpit all the buttons and everything inside

there It's it's it's it's silly. How good this

thing looks I mean I'm in love and it comes with

the cocoon for you Mike Yeah, the cocoon actually

with that on top of it. It looks like the animated

series batmobile. It absolutely does Yeah, I

was just I was just on that picture and I was

looking as you were saying that I'm looking at

that picture then I looked over at my shelf to

the the animated because I had the animated batmobile

and I'm like Whoa. That's crazy. Now, it makes

me wonder. I mean, a lot of the animated movie,

you get a lot of influence from the 89 and, what

was it, 91? Batman or 92? 92 was Batman Returns.

So, there's a lot of influence in the Batman

animated series from these. And, you know, even

with the toys that subsequently came out. I mean,

there's a lot of that same kind of feel, obviously.

Yeah, I mean this is just this isn't a toy this

this is not a toy by any display piece Oh, yeah,

this is something that you know Pictures will

be taken of this thing and it will be added to

my insurance policy That's that's just how it

goes, but I mean even the Batman figure itself

I mean, I should be I'm planning on ordering

mine next week and You know probably probably

won't take too terribly long. I hopefully get

it sometime next week or the week after or whatever,

but I mean everything about it just Absolutely

looks wonderful, and then we found I found out

that I don't know if you know about this Mike

But they're also releasing a Batman returns version

of Batman which kind of makes sense I mean they

already have the whole body and everything and

the only thing that's really different Is he's

got a different Batman logo? The chest piece

is different, and then the whole abdomen area.

It was a little bit different in the Batman Returns

movie, so they're redoing it. Now, I've heard

rumor that... And again, it's hard to really

tell because there's a picture of Batman sitting

in this Batmobile. Somebody that I know actually

said that they spoke with Hot Toys and... Heard

that this version of Batman will not fit inside

this Batmobile The current version that they're

releasing or the current Batman that that I you

know the from the 89 Batman movie that Batman

will not fit in the new in the upcoming Batmobile

because you can't get his hips because his outer

body is covered in like a rubber Right his articulation

is limited and you can't bring his legs up enough

to actually be in a Decent sitting position to

fit inside that now the room who are they showing

in the picture on the Facebook? That's that that's

my that's my argument towards it. You know when

this guy was telling me this I'm like well. There's

you know somebody sitting in there. He's like

I don't know dude I'm just telling you what I

was told I'm like he's like you know they're

gonna They're gonna have they're they're releasing

another Batman that will fit in it I'm like well

that kind of makes sense because they just announced

that they're gonna be making a Batman returns

Batman, but I I mean You know, it doesn't really

matter to me which Batman I get. I prefer the

89 one because I like the chest piece. It doesn't

look as square and robotic. I mean, it looks

like actual musculature, whereas the Batman Return

one actually looks like it's armor, kind of.

It's like blocky abs instead of the rounded ones.

I just prefer this one a little bit more, but

I don't know. I mean, so we're going to have

to wait and see. And the only person that I know

of that really has done a halfway decent job

reviewing the 89 Batman is Sean Long. And so

I can't really confirm whether or not his hip

articulation is really that limited. But hopefully

in a week or so, I'll be able to tell you for

sure. Yes, now the one thing for me just looking

at these and I'll link all the stuff in the in

the post on geekcastradio .com But just looking

at all these pictures looking at the Batman pictures

looking at the Joker pictures looking at the

Batmobile pictures It's like these, these makers

at Hot Toys, these people that have been working

on these things, it's like they traveled back

in time to 1989 and just were on the set of the

movie or they, you know, stuck a bunch of people

in a room and forced them to watch the 89 film

over and over and over again until it was boring

to their heads what these designs are supposed

to look like. Because they're so lifelike, even

though they're just toys. I mean, it's, it's

just amazing. Use freeze frame, bitch. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I mean we talked about how good

that Batman looks and you know the Joker I mean

it's almost like they photo photo captured Jack

Nicholson back in 1989 even though I know they

didn't do that Yeah, I mean I seriously look

at this and I I'm waiting like I'm looking at

this picture of you know Joker standing here

He's smiling. He's holding up a little Joker

card. I'm seriously waiting for him to turn around

and move Yeah, like there's this scene here where

He's standing with like all this money in his

hand and there's like the actual movie scene

in the background like a photograph of the movie

and I'm looking at I'm looking at this Jack Nicholson

Joker figure and it looks like the real person

It does it looks so real. I mean, it's it's ridiculous.

How amazing it looks Steve thoughts That thing

is so disturbingly accurate. It's it's downright

scary Yeah I Do know that if if they weren't

so damn expensive I I would get them Yeah, that's

Come on do it just save some money and do it.

I Have other things that I'm trying to commit

to like going to TF con. Oh, why do you want

to go there? Scam McNeil. Yes. Oh And because

I've never been to a Transformers convention.

So yeah, anyway back to bed, but anyways, um

Yeah, this This is so disturbingly accurate.

It's it. Yeah, I could definitely see where you'd

think that you know, he come spring to life Yeah,

don't just don't put him in the Indian in the

cupboard. Oh That'd be fun I could see you bring

in all your toys to life. I would totally do

it, too We'd have the war of Cybertron going

on pretty much No, we'll just do we'll just do

small soldiers. Oh boy I would probably do oh

man. I'd probably do everything I'd have I'd

have all my ninja turtles in there now now now

the the cool thing is uh You know we're talking

about all this stuff now. These are the DX versions

of these figures Joker What would just basically

a deluxe version which means it comes with a

whole lot more accessories? And I also think

it comes with something that's called like purrs

or something like that Basically what what you

can do is you can the eyes are even articulated

so you can you can rotate you can take a little

piece off of like their head or something and

Rotate their eyes. I know the Batman does he's

got like a little piece that goes on the back

of his head Kind of it kind of looks ugly from

the back because it just breaks up that uniform

look of his cowl, but it you can actually take

in like move the eyes around and just Emote him,

you know these figures in ways that It's just

almost unnatural. I mean, they've got that with

the joke or two Yeah, because you can look at

some of those and he's like, his head is tilted

down and he's looking up at you and he's got

that big grin and just everything about it is

wonderful. Yeah, this is just freaking disturbing

as all hell. And it's so amazing too, just because

of... And yes, they are, you know, deluxe figures

and whatever else, and that's great, but there's

a difference between a Hot Toys deluxe figure

and a Transformers deluxe figure. Well, yeah,

I mean, yeah, well, they refer to two totally

different things. You know, deluxe refers to

the size scale. You know, deluxe with this just

means... You know, a regular one wouldn't come

with all the accessories. Right, exactly. You

know, a deluxe one just means that it comes with

the maximum amount. I mean, kind of speaking

about Hot Toys, I was looking at the Hot Toys

version of Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indiana Jones.

And that's a deluxe one and it comes with all

sorts of things for Indy. I mean, everything

that you could possibly think of that he had

in that movie he comes with. And that's basically

all that the term deluxe means when it comes

to these guys. Right, yeah. And it's just, it's

so, so real. And it's just amazing. Just freaking

amazing. I honestly don't even, I mean, looking

at, I mean, Batman, Joker, all of these. I honestly

don't even know how I'm going to pose him. Posing

you these guys because he does the thing it's

like different poses you can do yeah I mean there's

like and that's the beautiful thing about hot

toys is there's like a million different combinations

you can have Joker holding one of his remotes

in one hand and his gun in the other you can

have his you know his right hand as you know

as a fist hand or something like that same thing

with Batman you know there's a picture I just

pulled up right now I mean the articulation on

this thing is even so damn good that In the scene

where Joker makes his return and he kills...

Grissom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one and only,

Carl Grissom. When he kills him and he's jumping

around, there's actually a part where he's holding

his hat and he puts his hand behind his back.

And he shoots him, yeah. You can actually pose

your figure like that. And it's like... Come

on, it's it's not even fair. I mean the only

thing that would make this better in my opinion

the only thing that would make this better is

if these if this Joker actually physically came

with blow -up versions of his shot his giant

balloons Yeah, that's the only thing that I could

think of that would make this better It's just

so awesome guns he comes with hands he comes

with gas masks megaphones different jackets That's

why we need a Vicky Vail because he came with

the gas mask. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure there's

somewhere out there some sort of toy line has

a Table and chairs that these figures could sit

at Yeah, I mean I mean hot toys isn't you know?

Uh, you know, I mean, it's not impossible for

them to do environments. I mean, they've done

environments for Indiana Jones, you know, the

whole map room from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

They completely did a 1 -6 scale version of the

map room from that movie. So, hell, I want to

put it past them to do something like that. I

want to put it past them to do the... The Batcave,

you know, at least the main area where he sits

down and has all of his computer screens, hell,

that would be an instant buy for me as well.

Yeah. Steve, any other thoughts? I would have

to say that these, I mean, granted, technology

has come a long way since these toys, but I would

have to say that this Batman movie was probably

my favorite out of the old ones. Yeah. Along

with the toys associated with it. Yeah, so and

I could definitely agree that this costume is

probably the best one out of them and Holy crap,

that's scary Freaky You can see like the in for

those not knowing what we're looking at. It's

a picture of the Joker up close and personal.

Oh Yeah, I'll be probably putting in this in

the post so people will know yeah, so I mean

There's veins in his eyes. I know It's so friggin'

creepy. You know, the thing about the Batman

movies is that, as I said, like, the whole point

we did this episode at Episode 89 was to talk

about the 89 movie and the 89 movie toys. And

obviously we've talked about the hot toys that

are based off the 89 film. But for me, even as

a kid, not just now as an old crotchety guy,

you know, it's one of those things where, as

a kid, The 89 stuff was the only toys that I

actually liked. I loved the films as a kid. I

loved seeing Returns Forever and slightly to

a lesser degree Batman and Robin. Batman and

Robin are such a bad rap. Well, the only reason

why I personally like it is because it's Alicia

Silverstone in a Batgirl suit. But anyway, the

toys that came from Returns Forever and Batman

and Robin they you know the toys in the 89 movie

were you know hey here's a sort of replica toy

you know here's a toy of this this character

from this movie or here's here's a batmobile

from the movie the other ones the other four

lines or the other three lines they just get

so cheesy to me like hey it's arctic batman in

the arctic batmobile or it's this or it's that

you know it went back to and and it's because

it's i think it's because it switched from toy

biz to kenner it's because you know like hey

we're a toy company we have to promote our toys

so let's you know you know do a toy thing and

make arctic this and red sun that well you know

from a toy company i mean it makes sense i mean

the more you got to play to the kid's imagination

and You know, if a kid wants to sit there and,

you know, take his Batman and have an adventure

with him at some point in time fighting Joker,

or, let's not even say Joker. You know, I just

have Joker's creepy ass face up on my computer

right now. You know, say a kid's imagining that

he's fighting Mr. Freeze and he has to go to

the Arctic. Well, hey, here's an Arctic Batman

that, you know, the kids can buy. Oh no, yeah,

no, I'm not... I mean, I agree. I mean, it got

ridiculous, but as a kid, you gotta love it.

As an adult, you know, yeah, obviously, you know,

but even, I mean, to this day, in my display,

I don't even remember what it's called, but it's

the, I mean, it's from Kenner, but it's the repainted

version of Batman where he's got a gold suit.

I don't even remember. Oh, yeah, it's gold suit

Batman. I don't remember what it was for, but

yeah. I just love the way that looks. Yeah, and

I and I agree I did love the way gold suited

Batman looked but I don't know even as a kid

when I Would see the commercials about you know,

the Arctic Batmobile or the Arctic this the Arctic

that or whatever else or all these other repaints

I'm like really I Mean, you know, it's you know

repaints or repaints every company does repaints.

You're a kid that didn't have an imagination

shut the hell up so Anything else cuz if not,

we're gonna go to a break go to a break go break

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we are back here on toy cast and You know overall

I still love the old toy biz stuff even though

there wasn't that much of it I kind of like some

of the Kenner stuff. It is kind of cool, but

whatever Steve final thoughts Toy toy biz stuff

it's meh, but you know I I prefer when they went

to the Kenner stuff much more But I did have

a few of them. They weren't totally bad. But

I mean, it's not like it was like Big Lots brand

or something, but. But yeah, it's it's it's fine

overall. I mean, for what it was at the time.

Yeah. Well, final thoughts. Yeah, I mean, you

know, we have the luxury of being able to look

at this through the, you know, the. The rose

rim glasses. Yes. Well, yeah, you know, I mean,

we have the luxury of, you know, a 20 year filter

to look through this or look at this stuff at.

And, you know, like like like you like you said

there, Steve, you know, back in the day, they

were great. I mean, but it was, you know, not

something that was. Challenging to the super

friends. That's what the old show was. half head

looking thing that was in a swamp. That's all

I remember. You know, so some of those toys,

you know, kind of suck, you know, then they brought

them in and, you know, I bet that a lot of it

just had to do with the fact that as Kenner got

it, they didn't have enough time to do stuff

for the 89 movie itself. So they just kind of

rebranded some stuff. Then by the time the dark

or the Dark night Batman returns came around

they had enough time to actually do some stuff

So they went back and cover some stuff that they

probably would have liked to have done for the

first movie But didn't have the time to do it

so I'm happy that Kenner got it because I think

I think we got some pretty good toys I mean I

still look at those you know Batman figures that

Kenner put out and they look more accurate to

Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson than a lot

of toys nowadays that are supposed to resemble

you know on -screen personas that aren't made

by NECA right well you know i think we've we

haven't really come to this conclusion i'm going

to now for me with any franchise no matter what

has toys as soon as hot toys touches it and does

what they do becoming a hot toys license and

becoming a hot toys figure is like Optimus Prime

being a masterpiece in Transformers. I mean,

that's the ultimate goal To reach for any other

franchise is to have hot toys make you a figure

screw that I want I want I want I want a life

-size Version of them that I can pose in my bedroom

Well, you live in California. I'm sure you can

hunt down Michael Keaton and just kidnap him

or bat -nap him I could probably do that Yes,

you just sit here and just be like I'm Batman

every couple of minutes. Yeah You want to pimp

out your YouTube channel well, um, it is your

multiple YouTube channels and just Opti bottom

is youtube .com slash opti bottom is whose bottom

is But mine what your mama? God, I swear. That's

all I got the whole thing. It's all I got I'm

still stuck in the 90s You're lucky I don't break

out the yo mama so fat jokes. You just did. Anyway,

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