The Lack of Back to the Future Toys and What Collectors Have Today

Next Saturday night, we're sending you back to

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DFJ and Mike, and it is finally time that I jump

into the DeLorean with my good buddy Op to Bonimus,

and we hit 88 miles per hour to go back in time

to see if there were any Back to the Future toys

when the films were being made, and it turns

out was no. This was a quick episode. Thank you

for tuning in this has been off the bottom So

Paul and I have been talking over the last couple

of days because as everyone knows I have a weird

thing of connecting numbers with certain years

and certain franchises and stuff like that and

Obviously last episode episode 87 was the turtles

even though I know the toys didn't come out till

88 that was the Don't know why you didn't include

me in that when I am an aficionado in turtle

toys, but go ahead Well number one because it's

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You hate podcasts you refuse to listen to podcasts.

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I actually I finally picked up I know this isn't

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series And I've been rewatching that in and reliving

it and reenjoin or read the you know Well, I

don't want to determine has returned of the series.

Yes, and I'm really loving it and there's episodes

that I remember watching as a kid I'm like, I

really like this like I just what we watched

um, there's a bat in my basement There's Batman

in my basement. There's a Batman in my basement.

Yeah. Thank you That's like one of my all -time

favorite episodes and it's it's it's kind of

like a filler episode But it's it's hilarious.

I loved it Well, you know since you're going

back and watching this and I tried telling you

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it You should go over to get cast radio calm

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to our BTAS review podcast We have our first

interview on over there with the voice of the

original Dick Grayson Robin, Lauren Lester. So

that was pretty cool that we talked to him. Anyways,

Back to the Future here. We've been talking,

Paul and I have been talking over the last couple

of days, because I wanted to get this episode

up and done and everything else. And it's not

going to be that long of an episode, because

we found out that there has been a stunning lack

of Back to the Future toys over the years. Yeah,

I mean it's you know, but you know you and I

had talked about this beforehand and I think

for the most part that You know and I'm sure

you can probably get this pulled up a lot faster

than I could but we talked about the fact that

there was Eventually there came out a back to

the future cartoon now when you think back to

the movies the movies really weren't Directed

towards kids and I think to like Ghostbusters

that it was a movie that got toys but a lot of

the toys came later as adult collectors. Now,

the toys that we did get for Ghostbusters came

from the cartoons for Ghostbusters, like the

real Ghostbusters and things of that nature.

You know, we never really got movie toys. I think

the Maddie Collector ones were the first time

that we ever actually got movie toys. Or the

original movies. You know, so back to the future

in terms of the movie, not really directed towards

kids. So I can imagine why they wouldn't make

toys, but now, As adults, we're seeing a little

bit more of a push towards, you know, some things

that adult collectors now would like to have.

Now, did you find the cartoon date? Um... Oh,

see, I'm disappointed. I just dragged that out.

Hold on, let me... And then you can just segue

right into it, but... That's a perfect soundbite

right there. I don't know if that showed up very

well. It probably did. TV series. It was an animated

series for television, 91 to 92. Okay, so it

lasted like one season. And it came 91. So the

first Back to the Future movie came out what

year was it? 85. 85. And then the second one

came out, what, 89 and then 90? Yeah. Okay, and

then we got a toll or then we got the cartoon

series in 91 Yeah, so a year after the French

the trilogy was done So and it only lasted one

season. So yeah, I can imagine why they probably

didn't invest a lot into You know back to the

future toys or anything like that. But like I

said now as adults we're getting a little bit

nicer of collectible sort of things that are

borderlining prop replicas for the most part.

And I know that one of the biggest things, I'm

pretty sure that one of the biggest reasons why,

I mean, I know you've had this plan for some

time, but it just coincides with the pre -sale

release of the mandycollector .com prop replica

for the hoverboard. Yeah. You know, and you know,

I mean, In addition to that, not too terribly

long ago, there was the limited edition Nike

sneakers that came out. They didn't have the

power laces, but they lit up. I don't even remember

what they were called, but that was only a charity

auction thing. Normal people like you and me

will never be able to see those. At $150 all

the way up to $3 ,000? No. I don't mind. I think

the most I've ever spent on a pair of shoes was

because I was a ward of the state, we had what

they call clothing letters and they would save

it up for us throughout the year. We would go

shopping usually at Christmas time and we would

have a lot to spend on winter clothes and stuff

like that. I think the most I ever paid for a

pair of shoes was like a pair of Jordans for

like $140. Usually my shoes are like anywhere

from 50 to 90 bucks and I make them last me at

least three and a half years. You actually saw

those sneakers going for 150 bucks somewhere?

Um, I might be off it could have been something

else If they were going for $150 anywhere, I

guarantee there'd be two people that would have

got those me and P off I Mean he really likes

back to the future too as well. I think what

it was was when they were doing those auctions

I think I saw one that it was like it had like

day left and it was just had like two bids and

it was like 150 bucks and then like two days

later the bid was like now now putting this all

in context that these were charity auctions that

were done for the Michael Michael J Fox Foundation

which all the money and all the proceeds went

towards helping with Parkinson's research so

so you know the money it's not like people were

just being stupid with these it was going for

good causes and and you know God bless them I

think it's wonderful I wish they would make some

and I think that you know I mean I remember having

this discussion with other people before I think

if you if you made a couple hundred thousands

of these and sold them for $100 a pair or $150

a pair you probably could make more money than

you know making a hundred sneakers or I think

they only made like a thousand or something like

that but um you know then they auction them off

and whatever but uh I mean it was it was for

a good cause so let's not get too critical of

them but we're seeing we're seeing a big surge

nowadays because like like you and I talked about

earlier on the phone that the kids went back

to the future came out they're now adults yeah

and they're they're directing these things now

I mean I have I mean entertainment earth really

kind of started a lot of things off With the

back to the future to DeLorean vehicle, which

I don't even know what scale it is Maybe it's

like a 1 18th scale or something like that It's

of the DeLorean. It has lights and sounds and

I have I have the back to the future to version

It is the one it's 115 scale 115 scale. Okay

It has hover conversion and it you put the little

a little switch and that actually the wheels

flip down There is a back to the future one version,

which doesn't have that The back to the future

2 version also has mr. Fusion which the back

to the future one doesn't and then there's actually

two versions of the back to the future 3 DeLorean

which comes with a railroad tracks and That's

the one that I have because that's the one that's

a little bit more Iconic for me. They also have

another version that has the white wall tires

where With when they rebuilt the DeLorean when

Doc Brown from 1955 And this is going to get

confusing for anybody that doesn't know back

to the future. But the Doc Brown from 1955 and

the Marty from 1985 repair the DeLorean that

was stored from the Doc Brown from 1855 or whatever

the year was. 1885, yeah. 1885. It's been stored

for 100 years or whatever. And those two, the

55 and 85 characters repair it, but the tires

are blown out. so they have to actually put modern

tires and it was the modern tires from 1955 so

they're white wall tires now they also made that

version I think JT Mitchell actually has that

one but I wanted the one with the rail tracks

because that was more prevalent in the movie

I mean in the third movie yes I mean the the

repaired 1955 DeLorean was more so to get Marty

back to 1885 and then they basically had to make

it rail ready because there was no gas, the gas

hadn't been invented yet. Gas hadn't been invented,

they didn't have the ability to pull it because

you would need like a hundred different horses

in order to do it because that's what horsepower,

I don't know if people realize this, but that's

where the term horsepower comes out, how many

horses it would take. to actually pull something.

So if you had one horse, put it this way. A carriage

back in the olden days, a carriage with two horses

pulling or using whatever, blah, blah, blah.

That basically is a two -horsepower carriage.

So that's how you look at it. They didn't have

anything. They couldn't wait until wintertime

where they would slide it down a slippery slope

because Doc Brown was going to get shot in a

couple days. They didn't have that long. Entertainment

Earth started this whole thing, I believe it

was Entertainment Earth, that first offered the

Back to the Future 2 car, in 1 .15 scale, and

they subsequently released the Back to the Future

1 version, and they released the Back to the

Future 3 versions. And, like I said, I have all

three of them, I absolutely love them, but...

You need to review them. Yeah, I should, I don't

have the boxes or anything, so it would be just

a regular review on the figures. Even though

these cars from entertainment earth were released

in the last three or four years You could do

it as a retro review. Oh, I know I'm sure yeah,

I definitely could but You know, the only thing

that I'll say about these vehicles is these are

I'm trying to think if these are made by art

asylum. Um, I Don't even select diamond diamond

select art asylum. I mean, yeah, well, they're

pretty much the same company I Know I know well

diamond select was separate and then art asylum

was separate and then they merged together It's

like Takara told me put it that way. Oh, okay

So but entertainer but the the diamond select

figure or the things are what made a lot of the

Starship enterprises and all the Starships from

Star Trek and a lot of the Star Trek characters

which are very, very nicely detailed. The DeLoreans

are kind of lame in terms of their detailing.

They're very simplistic, and there's a lot of

stuff that's really not going on. There's empty

spaces where wires and things should be. I should

review these just to kind of give you a good

look. But they're not bad. They're not bad for

what they are, and at least we have them. Now,

there are better ones that are out there made

by other companies, but they don't have the lights

and sounds. So that's something that kind of

sucks. But again, nowadays, you know, a lot of

these things that we're getting are prop replicas.

And the other one that I have that I've had for

a very long time is also made by Diamond Select,

and that's the Back to the Future 2 Marty McFly

hat. If you guys are familiar with Back to the

Future 2, it's not a hologram, but it changes

colors. I don't know what... They call it...

Ultra refractive refractive fibers or Fabrics,

I don't know what you call that, but you look

one way in it You guys know if you guys have

seen back to the future to you know the hat that

he wears I mean, I got one of those. I absolutely

love it. I think it's wonderful. I have seen

other props or like the Watch capacitor I seen

those I'm going on big bad toy store, but those

are always really kind of expensive but in terms

of toys we don't really have much but except

for now recently again diamond select is making

the back to the future mini mates which are they're

okay they're not really anything to write home

to because they're mini mates it's like it's

like Lego but weird very strange I mean if you

I mean if you get into that sort of thing, I

guess you're gonna like it But they're really

kind of cart. They really remind me of like play

school toys. I Mean, it's like if you were to

take transformers and make them play school I

mean basically you get like rescue robots. That's

yeah, you know that that's that's that's what

back the the mini -mate this it's the rescue

robots version of back to the future You know,

they're very, they're very cartoony looking and

weird proportioned and strange. Now I know some

people that like them. I know our good friend

and fellow Team Bottomist member Doug, or not

Doug, Bob Gilmer has reviewed the Back to the

Future Minimates. And those are, those are, they're

cool looking, but I just, I can't get into them.

They're too derpy. in that sounds moves when

you really need it oh bad joke um here's the

thing though supposedly mattel has the matches

or has a license for back to the future yeah

and and and we talked about this off air where

they had the to my knowledge of the only one

that has a ghost busters license to produce six

inch figures right and every time i see toy guru

talking about you know anytime i see someone

ask him about back to the future he's like well

we would probably only make marty and doc because

that's really what only a lot of people like

the mass majority of the public really remembers

is marty and doc but i mean if you're gonna do

a fan line like that you know you could have

you know i doubt that they would ever do this

but it is an adult collector they could have

where it is uh... uh... 1955 doc with face -peeling

action because he remember he had the mask look

younger There's actually an interesting story

about that because there was it there was a time

difference between the first movie and the second

movie Doc hit aged Christopher Lord had aged

and it was a noticeable thing. So what he did

to kind of make up for that, you know Because

the movies were supposed to be, you know, sequential.

There wasn't supposed to be a gap or anything.

I mean, it was to be continued. So it was supposed

to be a continuation and, you know, immediate

continuation of the story. So what they actually

did was they made that joke about him, you know,

going to a rejuvenation clinic, you know, and,

you know, they changed how he looked a little

bit, you know, to kind of coincide with that.

So it's... Thought that was ingenious now back

to the future two and three were shot Simultaneous

simultaneously back to back. Yeah back to back

Whereas there was a little bit of a difference

between the first the first and the second But

but I think you know with Maddie collector and

I don't care what Scott and I like You know what?

He says you could make a 55 Mark or not Marty.

Well, yeah, you can make a 55 Marty you can make

a 55 doc. You can make a 55 Um, you know the

mom and dad I make make a 55 biff you can do,

you know 2015 biff, you know 2015 uh marty junior

Yeah, you know, um, you know, I mean it's there

there are a lot of characters, but now here's

the problem They have to have enough money these

things have to sell well enough to warrant the

tooling for all new characters Otherwise, it's

gonna be the exact same thing as Ghostbusters,

and I don't think it's gonna happen Well, I mean

if okay, here's the thing say you get a Marty

a doc and let's say regular 1985 Biff, right?

Well not 1985 Biff 1955 Biff You can use obviously

you can Obviously the the original three figures

of Marty Doc and Biff would have to be wholly

new new tool figures right after that You can

just replicate Marty 55 85 blah blah blah same

thing with Doc same thing with this you can make

a Repainter a replica of Biff and have him as

Griff from the future. You could you know, obviously

Old Biff would have to be, you know, completely

new tool. But I mean, if there's enough fandom

and what I really, I really don't want to turn

this into a Matty Collector debate thing, but

what really, really surprises me about Mattel

and Matty Collector and all that is like, Oh,

well, you know, you guys are so vocal online,

but yet In person, you're so nice and blah, blah,

blah. Well, of course, we're vocal online. We're

in our own basements, hiding from people. And,

you know, we have the enemy of the internet.

I have never said a really honestly bad thing

about Mattel's production and Mattel's lines

at all. There are some lines I don't care for,

but... It's not Mattel. It's digital river. Right

right, but what I'm saying is I've never actively

sat here and bashed Masters Ghostbusters Volt

I've never bashed that it's the it's the business

side of it It's the it's as you said the digital

riverside of it, but I think You might have to

wait for an anniversary year to maybe do these

things But you know a six inch line for back

to the future would be kind of cool to have I

agree I agree but I mean I don't think it's going

to happen. No, I don't think it's going to happen.

That's the important aspect of things. I mean,

it's just, you know, I mean, same reason why

we're getting the shaft kind of on Spusters.

On the Ghostbusters things, because now if they

made a movie, they'd be all over making new toys

for it. Yep. You know, and they've already and

they've said that. They've said that. Yeah, yeah.

You know, back to the future, I don't I'm not

sure. I tried to look up and see and I'm going

to have to. look it up again I was trying to

look up on on Wikipedia if they had like a monopoly

version you know monopoly has all those um I

would imagine they do I would imagine they do

Transformers versions and GI Joe versions and

all that's not I was trying to see if they had

that for back to the future but what I found

was um was that they also had they had like To

this day they've had 27 different video games

both for some for PC and some for consoles Which

that's kind of cool You know, but it's it's sad

that it's severely lacking when it comes to toys

for the back -to -the -future franchise Yeah,

it's a letdown but you know as you said to me

on the phone earlier that It's one of those things

where You know you've get you know at this point.

We're all adult collectors. I mean we're all

grown up. It's not just You know just for kids

anymore yeah Amen Amen Do you have anything else?

I'm actually trying as I'm going through this

diatribe I'm trying to find to see if there's

a monopoly version of it Um, that would be kinda

cool if there was. I'm surprised that they wouldn't

have it, but I mean... I honestly... I'd be surprised

if they didn't have it, but... Realistically,

I wouldn't be too terribly surprised. If they

didn't have it, but eh, that's it. Oh well. Oh

well. Oh well. Yeah... Junior deal... I can't.

I'll have to find a list later. Alright, so I

think that's going to do it. This is probably

the shortest Toycast we've ever done. But, hey,

you know. There's not much to talk about. Yeah,

there really isn't. That's unfortunate. I mean,

if anybody knows anything else, you know, leave

us some feedback, let us know, and we can, you

know... Maybe we're not thinking of something.

I mean, there might be something out there that

we're not thinking of. Now, I know that they

made some video games, but that's not a toy.

That's neither here nor there. But I mean, if

there's anything else that's out there that you

guys know that we don't, let us know. Maybe we

can do a follow -up episode or something. Oh,

yeah. Most definitely. Anything's possible in

the world of the intranets. Yes, that's true.

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