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Transformers 3 Stunt Injury Lawsuit and Toy Display Case

October 15, 2010 1:13:18 EXPLICIT
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About this Episode

The hosts discuss news about a Transformers 3 extra's lawsuit against Paramount Pictures and production companies following a stunt injury, debating the surprisingly low settlement amount of $350,000. They also cover Cyber Monday toy sales at Maddie Collector, new Transformers trademark information, and rumors about animated-series figures being used in future storylines. In the display case segment, TFG1Mike reviews the Legends-class Ravage, Optibotimus gives his thoughts on the Generations Blurr figure (discussing its vehicle mode, transformation, and accessories), and Spada presents Chinese knockoff Thomas the Tank Engine combiners that transform into a large robot.

Cliffjumper, commence countdown. Five, four,

three, two... There are four amateur hockey rinks

around me and then obviously the Anaheim Ducks

and LA Kings. So there's a lot more around me

than when I grew up in Michigan. In Michigan,

there was two rinks within an hour away from

me. There'd be one an hour this way and then

an hour that way and then the Detroit Red Wings

and that was it. I didn't know hockey was a sport

until I moved to Pennsylvania. Where did you

move to Pennsylvania from? Maryland. Oh, okay,

that's why. You're lucky you picked the right

girlfriend in the right location. Yes, I picked

the right girlfriend. Yes, you like hockey. Wonderful.

Thank you. I love you. Let's get this stuff started.

Yeah, this is not marriage counseling here. Thank

you. Oh wait, I should say dating counseling

since you're not actually married yet, but anyway.

I'm engaged to her. I paid money and put a thing

around her finger. Oh god. And that's the intro

ladies and gentlemen. Hello and welcome to the

79th episode of Toycast. I am TF2 and Mike and

joining me is BoltMatrix, hello sir. Hello. And

Optibotamus, hello sir. Hi, how are ya? Back

that bus right up over me again. Oh, yeah. Well,

you know Would you like a shovel for that hole

No kidding. Oh boy Well, hopefully we'll hear

some sort of screaming from Paul tonight because

apparently burger is around. Oh, yeah, she's

she's in fine form Right now, she's a, although

it's not too terribly bad. I pulled down the

blanket. She's got this weird fixation with this

blanket that we have. It's the first blanket

that she had when we got her. And she would suckle

on it. She would sleep on it. It was her mother.

And I pulled it back out just for the hell of

it, because it was actually one of those blankets

that you keep on the back of your couch that

you cover yourself up with if you're just sitting

there. And so I pulled the blanket back out.

And here she is again. I mean, she was perfectly

fine for the past. You know week and a half two

weeks and now all of a sudden I pull it out in

here She goes again suckling on it like it's

her mom's peak I'm telling you dude if you put

a camera on her 24 -7 I'm telling you you send

part of that footage to America's funniest home

videos you could win ten thousand dollars It's

quite possible It's pretty possible. The other

day it was... What does he need that for? He

already gets that yearly from YouTube. Hey, hey,

hey, hey. That mean yearly? I don't know. It

was the funniest thing the other day. We were

late. My girlfriend and I were laying in bed

and we have this big tall box fan. My girlfriend

has to sleep with noise. So she has a fan on

every night when we go to bed, which is kind

of ridiculous because it's been like 50 degrees

down. here for some reason yes I'm picking on

you anyhow um we're sitting there and and and

burger got like really super hyper and she was

up well the fan sits like a foot away from the

end of our bed but down by our feet and uh it's

elevated so it's blowing right on us burger was

hyper as a son of a gun one night and Decided

that she wanted it It's the funniest thing and

I probably not gonna come across very funny at

all But we're sitting there and all of a sudden

she just decided to run and jump at the fan and

all you saw was her just like put her little

arms out and like she just jumped straight into

the fan and I was like what the hell was that

I? Didn't understand what she was trying to do,

but she tried to commit kitty suicide by jumping

into a fan No, she saw one of those indoor skydiving

buildings and thought that this was going to

be the same thing. That's probably what it looked

like. I mean, she just had all like all four

of her arms were just going out from her body

and she just whee that just smacked into it.

And I'm sitting here cracking up and my girlfriend

didn't see it, but I was I was laughing for a

good solid 10 minutes and I was the only one

laughing. But, eh, anyhow. And Spada, what have

you been up to? Work. Oh dear god, work. Work.

And reviews! A lot of reviews. Oh, reviews. I

thought you said reuse. I was like, wait, what

the hell does Street Fighter have to do with

reviews? What do you mean? Shoruken! Crazy. Oh,

that's that's funny. Um, yeah, I've not been

up to too much I've kind of been frustrated with

a certain celebrity who shall remain nameless,

but we want him for an interview on one of our

podcasts Well, if you were actually on time for

the show tonight instead of dealing with the

geniuses at Apple I wanna know now! I'm gonna

go insane! Wait for it! It's too late, you're

already insane. Wait for it! Let's see, what

else? I actually got my second Puggle former

in, I got beast... I said beast machines, that's

not right. Transmetal 2 Cheetor from Beast Wars,

very very cool. Yeah, these things are awesome.

Good for you. That's nice. And you don't really

care, do you? No. What exactly is a Puggle Farmer

made out of? Is it like a bean bag? It's felt,

yeah. The souls of children. That's what I'm

thinking. But I mean, Puggle Farmer sounds like

something that should be found in Middle Earth.

Oh, hell no. What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm sorry. I apologize. What the hell is wrong

with you, Jesus? Middle Earth. Holy crap. Middle

Earth, I'm alone. God, there's something so wrong

with you, dude. I love Lord of the Rings. Don't

even start that. God. Worst movie franchise ever.

So Toys, this is a toy podcast, correct? uh...

yeah yeah it is and uh... we're going to actually

before that um... all three of us are on youtube

has your own main pages changed didn't you and

i already talked about this privately yeah we

did but you mean my channel? no i don't mean

your channel i mean once on youtube dot com once

you sign in on the right hand side where it used

to have your little options of inbox comments

whatever oh yeah yeah what the hell is up with

that YouTube I don't give a shit about spotlight

videos or trending videos or featured videos

you know if you weren't such a lazy fuck you

that all you have to do is click on your little

name and I know but that's that's too much work

damn it that requires effort Billy that's right.

I don't feel like getting no effort Anyhow Yeah,

mine was perfectly fine until you messaged me

and I started tinkering with stuff and I ended

up breaking mine I didn't even break to this

the thing though. I didn't even do anything to

mine liar God, alright, so we're gonna bring

back the news segment here and So apparently

Santa Claus is not coming this year for Christmas

Optimus Prime is Yeah, well welcome back to Transformers

animated 2 .0. Hey, hey I'm saying that's exactly

what they did with Transformers animated it debuted

like around Christmas time and then didn't come

back for like another couple months or something

like that wasn't it yeah um so apparently um

transformers prime will actually air start airing

in december on the hub how exciting and it's

um on demand isn't that just like a preview or

something though i guess I know that they're

gonna have a preview of GI Joe and transformers

this Sunday on on the hub I'm 10 10 10. Yeah

It's the apocalypse. I Still don't know what

channel that is It's no, I mean on on my oh on

my network. I still don't know what channel that

is just What what what cable company do you use

Verizon Fios? Do you typically get the the discovery

kids network? I'm sure I do That that's where

it's gonna be. Yeah, it's probably somewhere

Well, you're not gonna miss out on much I mean

First couple days don't even sound like really

anything special is gonna be on it No, doesn't

sound like anything's gonna be on it practically.

They're gonna have they're gonna have fragile

rock I'm down for watching some Fraggle Rock.

I am down with some Fraggle Rock. That's right.

What else? I'm trying to see worse. I'm flipping

through some internet things here. What the hell

is that? So moving on while he's flipping through

the internet. New Transformers trademarks. Cyberverse

mech tech. and Robo Power. What do we think these

are? Fancy new names for Automorph. Yeah, pretty

much. That's my guess. Well it says here in the

article that Transformers 3 movie basic and plus

figures are to be released under the name cyber

verse I wonder what they mean by basic and plus

Basic is gonna they're bringing the basic size

class back. I think they're going to replace

scouts with that Plus I have no idea Is it gonna

be is that gonna be are those gonna be like the

kind of toys that we'd be able to find at? Like

the Lane Bryant department store probably Yeah

as for mech tech there's a good chance that this

is the previously seen cybertech Transformers

3 movie leader Voyager and deluxe figures are

to be released under the name cybertech Yeah,

it's just weird. Yeah, it is very weird Yeah,

I I don't even know what to make of it. Honestly,

it seems kind of Dumb they found some weird trademarks

I Mean it just I don't know. It's just some weird

weird weird trademarks. It's weirdness And I

think we kind of have to get serious on Toycast

because there was another Transformers news item.

I had reported about this on NerdNews over at

This Week in Geek a few months ago, I think,

or a few weeks ago. It's been confirmed and it's

been all over the internet. The extra that got

injured... in the Transformers 3 stunt thing.

One who's now brain damaged or whatever? Yeah,

she was supposedly, she could have had brain

damage at the time, and now it's been revealed

that she does have permanent brain damage, and

of course, there's a lawsuit. Well, Paramount's

probably shitting bricks at this point. Yep.

The one thing I'm wondering, though, is... Wouldn't

she have had to sign a waiver of some sort? That's

exactly what I was going to say. Now, in terms

of actors and extras and stuff, I don't specifically

know. A few years back, I actually did a hockey

photo shoot for Getty Images. And they're just

regular still pictures. And I know I had to sign

a release of liability form or whatever. And

that was just for pictures. I can't imagine why...

an actor slash actress in a live -action movie

Wouldn't have to sign one. Well, the thing was

was according to The family story she wasn't

even involved in the stunt she was just on the

set so I mean Well, I don't if this if the stunt

From what it sounds like the stunt went horribly,

horribly wrong. And unfortunately, that does

happen in Hollywood. It just does. And especially

if you're dealing with Michael Bay. I know that

there were some injuries during The Rock and

there have been, I mean, injuries in movies happen,

especially movie stunts. But if the stunt went

so wrong that it ended up hurting someone that

wasn't even close to the stunt, Then they probably

have a case. I just find it... I'm trying to

find where it was. I saw on TFW that the girl

is only suing for like $350 ,000. But that's

$50 ,000 each count. There's like ten counts.

But I'm thinking if it was really all that serious,

only $350 ,000? I mean, this is Hollywood. Yeah,

I don't know you know if you sue you go for you

go for the big bucks a couple million not 350

,000 well, that's probably Depending on the type

of injuries and what happened that might be all

that they could sue for well I'm I mean I'm curious

to know how brain damage this girl actually is

I mean if she's that brain damage where it could

Substantially ruin the rest of her career where

she wouldn't be able to work and not you know

not be able to function in normal life, you don't

sue for only $350 ,000. $350 ,000 does not get

you very far in life if you're unable to ever

work again. True. You know, I mean, that's, I

mean, a lot of people, I mean, to kind of draw

a parallel, people, you know, complain about

sports players. I hear all the time with hockey

players, you know, about why they get paid so

much. Well, lot of it has to do with the fact

that if they get injured while they're playing

they need to take care of themselves for the

rest of their lives and their families and their

families so okay you sign a hundred million dollar

contract for ten years that's just the way it

goes yeah I mean if this girl is that irreparably

damaged to where she can't act again or I mean

work at McDonald's except for you know things

by the time things by the time you know $350

,000 is not a hell of a lot of money to sue for

no I was I was surprised as well to see that

because Exactly what you said $350 ,000 is not

going to bring you much if she is So brain damage

that she can't take care of herself, right? then

That's not going to go very far. Yeah, so So

either either It's it's They're key. I mean the

only things that I can possibly think of is that

they don't think that they have much of a case

So they're low balling Hoping that the the the

studio will settle out of court. I Mean three,

I mean three hundred fifty thousand dollars.

They're gonna be like, oh, all right. Well, that's

not much I mean she could you know, I mean if

she was really hurt she could sue for a whole

lot more So, all right. Here's three hundred

fifty thousand dollars. We'll settle it. We'll

be done with it You know, I think they're making

a much bigger deal out of this than I see on

here identify seven counts of negligence against

Paramount Pictures, DW Studios, and several other

defendants. I mean, but the one thing they aren't

doing is they're not suing Michael Bay. Yeah,

which is kind of weird. Isn't DW Studios Michael

Bay's production company? Actually, you know

what? You might be right. I just thought of that

after I said that. Let me, uh... I thought DW

Studios was DreamWorks. DW Studios, um... Universal

City, California... He's, uh, Propaganda Films.

Oh, okay. Oh, okay, yeah. Oh, it's, um... What

is this? DW Studios, Production LLC, Late...

BladesOfGlory .com? I wonder if DW Studios...

It's either DreamWorks, like Mike said, or it

could be... You know, in Hollywood, they sublease,

or they... Like, a studio will be the ones that

produce the thing, but then they call in these

other studios to do the actual work. Oh! Oh,

according to this, it sounds like it's essentially

a casting company. Oh... Which Is a private kidney

yeah, I don't understand why they would tell

or sue them I mean Because they can I don't know

yeah, I know this whole thing is just Weird and

it's just you know there's conflicting stories

between The family's version and what the police

have and all this and all that and then everything

else and it's just it's one mess the big Contradiction

is between the police report and what the studio

was saying right that was the big contradiction

Right. It's just one big mess. I Mean, I I mean

I I don't understand it just none of it seems

To make much sense. It sounds like you know the

Shia LaBeouf injury from Revenge of the Fallen

was a whole lot more serious than this one was

Yeah, you know which which one was that well

where he was almost blinded. Yeah Because the

other the other the other one that um The the

other injury his car accident that didn't take

place during the shooting or anything right of

the movie But yeah, I I don't know. In this day

and age, you know, I mean, kind of to wrap things

up, it just seems really stupid. I mean, people

will sue for anything. You go up to McDonald's

and you order a hot cup of coffee and you spill

it on yourself. You can turn around and sue McDonald's

because you burned yourself. I mean, it's just,

it's asinine if you ask me. My yes, yes it is

and and to kind of get things back on an upbeat

and when cyber Monday is for Maddie collector

.com We haven't found out all of it we only alright,

okay We know when it's gonna be it's gonna be

November 29th to December 5th Well, that's Cyber

Monday, you turd. We always knew what that was.

Whatever. So far, out of 21 items, they've announced

three. The Reissue He -Man, the Reissue Skeletor,

and the first time that Battle Cat gets reissued.

Yay. And I specifically brought this up so Paul

would have to talk about it. You know, it's It's

kind of silly because the sale goes from the

29th to the fifth and there's no Freaking way

that any of those three are gonna make it to

the fifth You know, I think it's That's really

retarded. Oh, what is this saying here? Oh, but

there's even more big news They'll give you an

extra 10 % off the total price of any order $100

or more Yeah, oh and and you know that coupon

because The when battle cat was originally released

he came with a five or eight dollars off coupon

That you could use and if you still have that

coupon you can use it again Or if you never got

to use it the first time right now finally use

it You Maddie I Got like I ate pork chops and

sometimes I get like stuff seasoning stuck in

my throat. Yes, I buy enough toys as is I'm just

glad I'm not into Masters of the universe You

know, I'll be honest I'll be honest Mike and

I I'm telling you this that I don't know why

but I'd actually be considering not collecting

the masters anymore and selling off my collection.

Hey, that works. Yeah. Yeah, so, I don't know.

It's one of those things where I'm kind of over

it. It was, I don't know, tough. But I could

probably get a pretty decent amount of money

from my collection. Yeah. Five dollar. I doubt

I doubt make you cover. Hey, we love you long

time Anyhow, oh I could be wrong, but I think

Spada was going for a Taco Bell reference there

with the the sandwich lady There's a Taco Bell

commercial on TV with their new chicken and cheese

What? Taco Bell commercials. Oh, please. They

show them enough. It's not like I actually buy

the crap. Taco Bell's meat is one grade higher

than dog food. Next story! I like Taco Bell.

He complains about me, ladies and gentlemen,

yet he likes Taco Bell. What the hell is wrong

with you? I don't have a next story. That's it.

So why do we already want to go from here? What

do you guys think of the newly announced Transformers

Collectors Club sideburn? It's a blue Rodimus.

Yeah. With a different head. The head doesn't

even look all that different. Wait, are you singing

the blue song? Yes, the blue song No, I actually

I actually like it a lot I know what now I have

to put that in between the two clips now So what

you actually like the figure a lot or the song

a lot Well, I do like the song but I don't actually

like this repaint. I think it's a good repaint

but Don't know like there's not enough detail.

They give they give you these tiny little pictures.

Yeah And it's only one picture. It's not even

well there there are two robot in vehicle mode.

Yeah But and well spade are you a member of the

Transformers collector club? I am now Have you

oh actually, you know, have you looked at the

other? Have you actually gone to the transformer

club calm website? I'm right there They have

a full -on picture of him. Yes, that was the

picture I was talking about. Oh, that actually

does look pretty good. Now, who's to say that

isn't one of the doctored pictures that Hasbro

is famous for? That doesn't look like a doctored

picture. That looks like the actual figure. That

looks like a toy. That is actually pretty nice

looking. It's damn shiny, I'll admit that. Well,

see, that's the thing, though. I just feel that

there's a little bit too much light bloom on

that guy. I would almost like to see the spoiler.

Kind of that light flame blue. That's just mean.

I like the way that looks. That might get me

to join this thing. Well, it also makes me wonder

they've got a contest going on for customizers

right now. So I'm really wondering what is going

to be their... Well, I find it funny that the

prize for the customization is repaints from

this and last year that they haven't been able

to sell. They got to get rid of it somehow. So

I'm wondering what other figures are they going

to be bringing out? Because if they're going

to be going down the RID scope what Classics

molds or what other molds could they use for

the Autobot brothers? We've got Rodimus a sideburn

The only thing I could think of for say Wild

Rider would be the iron hide mold which is terrible

Yeah. And then for, and then for Prowl, oh god,

I really hope they don't use the, um, the Generations

Prowl blue streak mold. There are how many different

versions of figures of that mold now? Oh, one,

two, three, four, five. Well, are you counting

like the hang K versions as well or no just just

the US so I know there are three there's prowl

blue streak and smoke screen Yeah Can't think

of there any others. I think that's it for just

the regular regular US releases I Can't I can't

think of any other ones Yeah, nothing nothing's

coming to mind The TFU info! Yeah, the blue flame

on him looks cool, but... I don't know, I'm just...

Now, how much would you like it if fan's project

made a protector armor in this color? No, I can't

do it, just no. No to the blue. And I really

think 2011 is the year 2010 2011 is the year

of Rodimus Yeah, it seems like it is. Yeah. I

mean we're getting we're getting the protector.

We're getting the masterpiece. We're getting

Sky there this you get what now sky there's armor

Yeah, which yeah, and you know, I know Sky there

the shadow sky there from fans project for Shattered

glass Rodimus version. Yeah Isn't it Shadow Scyther?

I don't know, Skyther. Well, I don't know. It's

pronounced Scyther, but that's okay. Whatever.

And then we're getting that two -pack release

of Rodimus. Yep, that open space. Yeah, so there's

going to be a lot of Rodimus. We're also getting

the black animated repaint. Yep. That's true.

Now I'm putting this out there and some, I don't

want to say exclusive information, but I do have

certain sources in the world. I'm telling you

right now, if this is something that can't come

out, you better not even say it on air because

I will not edit it. Well, no, it's not that I

can't say it on air, but there's rumblings that

animated. figures will be used in next year's

plot concept. And one of those names getting

tossed around is animated Rodimus. I just hope

they don't butcher it. What would they do with

it? If they use the animated Rodimus mold? What

the heck would they do with it? Lord only knows.

I'm just saying what I have heard from people

in the overseas area. At this point in time,

it's just a rumor. I'd like to go on record as

to saying that. You're right. It is a rumor,

but I don't understand why... Now maybe it's

a rights issue between Hasbro and Cartoon Network

and all that, but the show has been off air for

a while now. I don't understand why they couldn't

just do... animated set just from animated instead

of like repurposing it into different characters

and stuff like that just use them as their actual

characters they could let's hope yeah instead

why don't they here's an idea for has or for

um Maddie not Maddie is it Maddie collector no

it's fun pub fun pub okay yeah here's an idea

Work with Takara and Hasbro to make some limited

molds of Rodimus's and Strika's teams. All deluxe

class figures. And sell them at a premium. That

would be nice. You will sell out... I mean, if

it was like $300 per set, you would sell out

like that. Oh, easily. As long as one of those

deluxes was an animated cyclonus, I would be

happy. Yeah, strika, cyclonus, um... Spit -or.

Spit -or. Oil slick. I'd be happy not having

a spit -or. Spit -or now with real spitting action.

Real spitting action. Because it's just so...

Pretty creepy. I would like the spit or figure

just because it's bonkers. Yeah, it is beyond

bonkers. But yeah, I Mean, let's see a hotshot

first -aid perceptor and wheeljack Going up against

spit or cyclonus strika Maybe a Cybertron version

of oil slick and black and blackout that would

actually be Pretty darn cool Or you know what,

even do the Constructicons. Yeah, Dirt Boss is

a stupid character, but he could possibly be

a fun little figure. It could be. I mean, I'm

surprised at the fact that they would actually

go ahead and make the Dinobots that, other than

Grimlock didn't say anything, and not make the

Constructicons. That just seemed kind of strange.

Grimlock said stuff. No, I'm saying the Dinobots

with the exception of Grimlock. Oh, okay. Yeah,

the other ones swoop and yeah, they never Snarl

or sly whatever you want to call them. Yeah They

didn't say anything yet. They constructed cons

who had a couple episodes with them, you know

being highlighted I mean they talked all the

time. They didn't shut up That's cuz they're

from New York. Well, that's That's the worst

New York impression I've ever heard in my life,

but okay. That's because I'm from Boston and

New York sucks, but anyways. So, speaking of

constructicons, did you guys see the primers

for the new scavenger figure? Indeed. Indeed

I did. It looks like it's gonna be big. Who is

making it? It says products by TF Club, but I

can't remember what have they ever made before.

I don't think they've ever made anything. That

can't be a good sign. I don't know. I don't care.

Me want. The arm looks to be about eight inches

long. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be really

huge. Yeah, that's very, very large. Oh That's

right. Okay. Okay. Okay TF club was originally

originally partnered with fans project and they

they work with fans project to create the clip

jumper upgrade and Then after that fan project

split off from them and they started doing their

own thing Okay So the TF club is primarily responsible

for it as far as I can see the the cliff jumper

I don't know if they've done anything else It

was rumored that they were gonna do some kind

of armor upgrade for ultra Magnus the classics

ultra Magnus, but This was back in 2008. So this

might have been right when they started talking

about the Yeah, I wonder I wonder if they're

I wonder if they're still kind of buddy buddy

with the fans project folk I'm not sure so But

at any rate that that That thing is gonna be

flipping big Yep I'd like it Do want yes. All

right, so we're gonna do a quick break. I think

you're going to hear something from animated

Grimlock and we'll be back after this we are

back and it is time for the display case segment

and I am going first I will be talking about

transformers I guess it's under the hunt for

the decepticons line legends class ravage you

you do that and and silence lovely You're supposed

to start talking. This is your part of the show.

Well, I know, but I was waiting for reaction

because I hadn't told you guys before I actually

just said it. Which Levin? Levin, yes. The Hunt

for the Decepticons Legends class Ravage, correct?

Yeah. Yes, it is a cute little kid. Yes, yes,

very much so. Go check out my review on Bolt

Matrix on YouTube. I has reviewed it. I knew

he was going to say that. Let's see. I'm on a

jet. Look at your ravage, now back at me. That's

great stuff. Oh crap. So I think my only complaint

about this guy is that his eye is orangish red.

I'm sorry. Other than that, he's really really

cool, and wow, I just now noticed the black Decepticon

symbol, which I never saw before. Holy crap.

He's so freaking tiny. I know! He makes one of

the Human Alliance human figures look big. Yes

he does. He has scaled pretty well though. Yeah,

he has scaled very well. His transformation is

a little bit finicky because if you don't get

his legs in just the right angles, it goes all

the pot. I've seen, because I've watched your

review and I've seen the transformation, the

alt mode is 1000 times better than the deluxe

class or average. Which is so weird! I know!

But at the same time, I still will not transform

the... the legends class or the deluxe class

um actually i actually went over to my shelf

and i grabbed uh the deluxe class one yes we

heard yeah huh funny um and he pretty much i

mean he can pretty much fit on the deluxe's back

yeah if you actually he can fit um If you have

one of the leader class figures, he'll actually

fit in one of their hands. Oh wow That's nuts

Was that a Dragon Ball character? Yes, I know

it's Spanish Oh Boy, I don't know what I'm talking

about My only other real complaint about him

is he's not as black as I thought he was going

to be. He's this weird metallic gray. Yeah. He's

not shiny at all. He's not black at all. In the

movie he was silver and I've yet to see a silver

toy of him. Uh, Sea Attack. Well that's silverish.

Yeah. It's not truly silver, but it's close.

Well, let me put it this way. Oh wait, I actually

think I have seen one of those in real life.

You have to realize all the stores in my area

are two waves behind what you can find online.

Yeah. It's only been within the last month. That's

equal to stores nowadays. Every store is two

and a half, three waves behind what's online.

Which sucks. Yeah. Crappy. Yes, very crappy.

As Spada has said, and as I've said, he is very,

very cute. I actually, you guys were asking earlier

what Puggleformers are, and hopefully you clicked

on the link to see what it is. I did. I actually,

before I got my Cheetor Puggleformer, I have

my Shattered Glass Rodimus Puggleformer, and

as soon as I got Legends Ravage out of the package,

I was like, oh, he can, you know... You Shatterglass

Ravage or Shatterglass Rodimus Puggleformer as

a kiddie ball of yarn. And I had him like just

on his head. A kiddie ball of yarn. Yeah. Well

done, sir. Yes, I know. I'm just that awesome.

That's right. Clearly clearly So that's really

isn't that much to talk about this guy We've

kind of said that you know this alt mode is 1

,000 times better than the deluxe version one

The alt mode yeah, yeah very true because he

looks more like a jet the legends class does

and whereas the the Deluxe class one looks like

he's Don't know some sort of weird missile that

came out of soundwave. I don't know I always

got the impression that he looked more along

the lines of some kind of weird Seals type of

weapon And I guess that like a little submarine

boat type of thing that you would see Being used

by special forces like seals or something, but

you know That's just me So why don't we bring

on the hate with up to bottom is his choice this

evening I Don't know I mean, okay, so I I've

chosen to talk tonight about Transformers generation

deluxe class or Now the initial figure that it's

a repaint and a slight retool The retool being

I think just his head. I don't think they've

done anything. And the weapons. Oh, yeah, as

opposed to swords, he comes with guns and one

really gigantic gun. Which is awesome. It's pretty

impressive how big the thing is. I mean, I was

surprised that it was this big, but I passed

initially on the drift figure. didn't care for

it too much and then then I saw that they were

going to do the blur version I said you know

what that's going to be the one that I'll end

up getting and I got it and I'm looking it's

like right now I have him in his car mode and

I really like the way the car looks the car to

me says blur it's it's really nice and this mold

just Seems to fit with the blur character more

than the drift now the drift well drift drift

is a comic book guy that I don't know anything

about so I can't really comment on it, but One

thing that I can't and I can't remember whose

review I was watching on it And I apologize to

whoever it is if he's watching but they mentioned

how the original g1 blur had like his headpiece

that weird goofy looking thing that stuck out

of his head it was it was prevalent in the G1

toy when it was in his vehicle mode and when

I'm looking when I look at this blur on the roof

of him where the Autobot logo is that whole bit

of white molded plastic looks like a much bigger

version of that of that old G1 thing that stuck

out in his vehicle mode that was on top of his

head in robot mode so I mean Don't even know

if that makes any sense what I just said you

mean you mean his antenna on top of his head

It was an antenna in his vehicle mode like a

rate like I'm assuming a radio antenna Yeah,

yeah But it was it was like a long dated You

know and like you know I mean that's On the generation

toy they have to me. It looks like one of those

on his roof Um, it's not as pronounced as it

was on the g1 toy But I mean that was one of

the things that I noticed when I when I took

it out of its package And I'm looking I'm like,

yeah, this is a nice looking vehicle. Then I

then I transformed them. Oh and First thing that

I don't particularly care for is the big giant

things hanging off of his his hips Okay, I'm

not a fan of that. It's just There and it's stupid

The other thing is I don't like his big gigantic

shoulder pieces I can't figure out where I'm

supposed to where his actual shoulder is because

his shoulder rotates out a ball joint and then

and I'm gonna have to Transform them to get him

to that because there's like two different parts

on his shoulder. Right. There is the actual ball

joint that connects from the upper body to the

shoulder piece. And then in front of that is

a swivel where the arm swivels down out of the

hood of the vehicle. Exactly. Exactly. And it's

like, I'm like, I don't know which way to position

his arms. to have it not look so retarded, like

he's got, I mean, and I know, and he kind of

had that, like the shoulder bits. I just don't

like the way it really looks on him. And everything

is just so kind of crammed in here. It just doesn't

really... Work and then it's feeder stupid the

way is feet transform you got to like slide them

and rotate them and twist them and You first

look you flip them out right from the middle

of the vehicle right, then you take the upper

part of the I guess the upper part of the rear

of the top of the vehicle and the side doors,

and then you collapse them in forward and slide

them around themselves, or not around themselves,

but around the plastic heel bits. Right. And

it's kind of cumbersome. I mean, I don't, it's

really kind of... I suppose the engineering is

pretty impressive that they came up with that,

but to me, I just think it's a pain in the ass.

I mean, I don't particularly like it. I mean,

no, I think his face is very nice. He's got a

very nice face and head sculpt. But you flip

him around on the back, and the back of his feet,

or the back of his legs, or just the back of

the car. Yeah, the entire back of the car. It's

like oh Okay, and then you know you got the doors

hanging off of his hips and the big giant blocky

the front hood slash front side panel or front

quarter panel whatever you want just there on

a hanging off of his shoulder I'm just really

Not all that impressed with it Yeah, and now

that I'm looking at like several different pictures

of him from the front the back the car mode I

think the only I Think this is another one of

those figures where I only get one and just for

the car mode get the drift I don't even know

I don't even because this is the one that I was

Like, you know, I'm like I'm I mean of the two

different molds I'm like I'm gonna like the blur

one mostly because I know the blur character

Right. And that was gonna be the selling point

for me. But now it's like, there's not much of

a difference between this figure, it's just his

head. And obviously the weapons. But I mean,

I could care less if he comes with swords or

guns or whatever. Now I have both of them and

I like the guns a lot better. Chiefly because

the guns are made of solid plastic. Yeah, swords

were like nimbly weren't they? Yeah, I'm actually

holding it right now. The swords on Drift are

this super flexy plastic. It sucks! Because if

you hold the sword, the big sword, at an angle,

it will actually droop over a few days. It's

like, um, not Bonzitron, um, Bludgeon from Hanford

the Decepticons. Oh, okay. I mean, it... I mean,

and the big... I mean the even the big giant

gun now that I'm looking at it You can't have

a pointed straight down because the gun itself

is too big You have to have the gun pointing

away from him. Otherwise, he won't be able to

stand because it turns into a giant crutch I

I actually like the giant gun. I really like

the way it looks but I think it's too big for

this figure That's the only thing Mean it's really

nice look I mean the detail on it's nice and

it's got a nice little Awkward swivel thing where

you can turn into like a sniper rifle type of

thing It's funny you mention that look at the

sniper pose Let me see it's like the third or

fourth picture down Yeah, I mean see that's the

only way that you could really pose that and

I'll I'll put this picture so people that are

listening know what we're talking about, but

basically we're looking at a picture of the Generations

Blur figure where he's holding the sniper rifle

in both hands and he's kind of like angled down,

like in almost a crouching position. Yeah, he's

not... You could get a really nice pose where,

and I'll probably do this in my review, where

you can have him holding the sniper rifle and

have him look like he's laying down as if he's...

about to shoot from a laying down position. I

decree right now you are to do that in your review.

I think I probably will. That's actually not

too bad. It's a nice idea. The figure in general,

it's a nice idea. I still think that this mold

fits blurb a little bit better. I would have

preferred an original mold. Yeah, that's that's

what I'm thinking. I mean it would have been

it would have been I mean it works but I Mean

the animated blur blows this one away. Oh, yeah,

I've got I've got animated blurs a robot mode

right here in my hand right now and Yeah, it

yeah I mean it's it's I'm glad that I actually

don't really care for this too much because I

got yelled at the other day saying Do you get

paid, or do companies pay you to say just nice

things about their stuff? Now, we don't want

to go into other territory that's not supposed

to be aired on the show. No, no, no. I'm just

saying that that kind of aggravated me, because

I'm like, all of my stuff I buy and I use my

money to pay for. If I come across one that I

don't particularly like I'll say that I don't

like it and in my review it's gonna come across

I don't like this guy very much. Yeah, so yeah

my my review which will hopefully be going up

probably this weekend I Don't really care for

it either It's I mean it really disappoints me

because I really did want to like this I don't

like his smaller guns at all because aren't too

bad the reason why i don't like them is because

you could basically take the old g1 hot rod guns

and put them in his hands into the exact same

damn thing those those guns same not the exact

same design but the exact same type of shape

and how skinny they are and just they remind

me of the old g1 hot rod phasers can bind what

happened oh it doesn't no they don't They look

like they were they look like they were They're

mirror opposites of one another but I thought

that maybe they all have together or something

to make just one big gun but no, but yeah, so

I am NOT a big fan of this and like I said I

really actually did want to like this figure

and It's one of those figures that is very hard

to find right now in stores Yeah, so I if I ever

do pick him up Just by looking at these pictures

on on on KO toys here Actually, they're on Cybertron,

but the pictures are from KO toys, but I would

only want it for the car because I've seen the

drift car in stores and I don't I don't like

the colors on drift and I just I don't know anything

about drift and but I mean the frosted blue for

blur I think looks really cool so I may just

get one of them just for the car mode. Octobonymous,

is the paint on your blur really bad? No, I had

the luxury of being able to go through and pick

the one that had the best paint on here but one

thing that I did notice is that on the middle

portion of the hood and going across to the It's

more Yeah, it's it reminds me of the bad paint

that was plaguing the universe or the classic

2 .0 It's it's not it's not smooth. It's Really

kind of textured Yeah, it's like it's like air

bubbles got under the paint and then just it

reminds me of primer Yeah, it kind of does Mean

and and one of the biggest problems you I mean

one of the biggest problems that I had with the

the original classic 2 .0. Oh crawl figure was

like on the doors Were painted like this and

they smeared and they were just not very good

So I don't kind of nasty what what was that?

Hello, yeah, we're here What was that noise?

I hear, like, tapping. There's no tapping. I

heard tapping. There's no tapping at your chamber

door. Honestly, I didn't hear anything. I'm crazy

or something. He's hallucinating, ladies and

gentlemen. That's quite possible. But, um, so

there you have it. Octobotomus does not like

all the toys that he gets. So, Spada, who are

you going to be talking about, too? Well, I'm

talking about something special today. Oh, boy.

Your mama? Yes. No, my mama is more special than

that. Anyway, so I'm going to be talking about

the Thomas the Tank Engine combiners. Super!

I never thought in 79 and plus episodes that

we would ever have... Anything to do with children's

toys that aren't collectibles. Oh my god Preface

this by saying these things are dangerous to

children First off they are from K. I bought

them at ko toys they are Chinese knockoffs and

I first have to say this is your very It's obvious

that this is cheap plastic that is just meant

to be sold very cheaply. You said that they're

KOs. Does that mean that there's actual legit

real ones that have been created? No. These are

from the land of, well, we're going to copy the

transformation from some other series and then

mold it into Thomas the Tank Engine. Nice. I

think that the transformation is from something,

one of the Japanese series called, ah crap, the

Brave series. There was a Brave series that all

the robots were trains and I think that this

transformation scheme is from those toys, but

I can't confirm since I don't have them. There

is the blue Thomas tank the green other guy tank

and the red Tank dude I haven't bothered to look

up what their real names are because honestly,

I don't care then why did you buy them because

they were a Just a monstrosity on man that I

had to own them Wow The red one If I have a video

review up of it right now the green and the blue

Form the right and left shoulders the right and

left arms and the right and left legs The red

forms the torso and the backpack The poseability

is non -existent. The hands have been put on

backwards. The wings that it has actually are

chromed, which I was surprised at. They are covered

in stickers that say the word top. I have no

idea why. Then the red one has one of those plastic

pull tabs Like you're pulling it out so that

the connection between the battery and the electronics

work, right? But there ain't no electronics in

this thing The thing holds together as bout as

well as a As a transformers energy And... Spada

in echo? Yeah. Did somebody... Sounded like you

unplugged something. No, it's on your end, Mike,

because when you talk, you're echoing. I know

I'm echoing, but there's no way, because it sounded

like something jacked out on your end. Uh, give

me a second. Let me unplug my, uh... You broke

it. Hold on. Test. Yeah, I can still hear myself.

Yikes. Yeah, so can I. Uh, hold on. How about

now? How about now? Uh... It should be alright,

I guess. Ah, it's just a feedback. Feedback.

Wow. Okay, so... Should I keep going or I guess

What happened I don't know any horrific feedback

yeah Let me see here It's all Paul's fault it

might be I might be hold on let me Oh boy. Oh,

what did you do? I think I broke the internet.

Awesome. So excuse us while we have technical

difficulties here. Yeah, that was weird. Okay,

so I don't hear myself anymore. So that's good.

So I guess we can continue. I fixed the internet.

Okay, good. Excellent. So... So the Thomas the

Tank engine combiners Their quality is pretty

poor I'll just be flat out. It's not I mean I

knew what I was getting when I when I hit that

pay button I Knew what I was getting And you

know I have to say I knew I also was reaffirmed

of what I was getting when the box showed up

with like Four different types of tape and the

box looked like had been used three or four different

shipments But I don't really I don't really regret

getting it because it's just one of those things

that hey You I have a Thomas the Tank Engine

combiner and people go what? That was my reaction

yeah, I was yeah, I was right there but it's

funny the The blue engine, all the parts that

actually move, like the fist and the legs when

they flip out, are loose as hell. I mean, if

it weren't for the fact that I've got it on a

stable base, it would probably be toppling over.

But everything on the green engine is so tight,

I had to actually go in and loosen screws in

order to get it transformed. Yikes. So, long

story short, do you recommend the Thomas the

Engine combining transformer? Um... No. Do it.

You know you want to. You know you want to. No.

I can't recommend this. If you're insane, like

myself, sure, go right ahead. But if you want

a good figure... Save your money and go get yourself.

I don't know hunt for the Decepticons Tomahawk

The terror dive or Megatron or bumblebee or Durge

thrust dark now Terry anything else You already

mentioned terror dive once Well that he really

likes terror dive actually terror dive is a fantastic

figure Tomahawk is pretty cool as well the two

of them are Probably two of the best deluxes

to come out of the whole movie line. Yeah. So

I think we're going to wrap this trainwreck up

here. Oh no! Trains? I can talk about trains!

I got this great set of trains! There you go.

I know, that's why I said trainwreck. Oh, look

at you being witty. I know, right? I'm telling

you. Thank you. I'll be here till Thursday. Leave

tips with your waitress. There you go. We have

a waitress? Yeah. You didn't know that? Oh man.

That's funny. Alright, so I think that's, is

it all we're going to talk about today? Yes.

I have to go to bed now. Yeah, I think we all

do. I still have to restore my iPhone and get

all my Actual context and everything put back

on it It'll take you from now until tomorrow

afternoon Yeah, well Hopefully it fixed the problem

though, and and I won't mind too terribly much

yes So you guys are on YouTube? Spade, I want

you to pimp out your YouTube channel. Yes, you

can find me on YouTube at bolt matrix I've got

some really nice reviews coming up. You can check

out the Thomas the tank engine review We got

some more sent got another Sentai review coming

got Generations blur generations dirge coming

and got some some new power core combiner figures

coming next week Cool. And Optobotamus, you're

special. You have two channels. I do have two

channels. Look at me being super special. The

one primary one is obviously YouTube .com slash

Optobotamus. The other one which I'm actually

negligent on. I was doing the whole What's on

Optobotamus' shelf video series and I did not

do this. do on this past Wednesday because there

was a local Los Angeles area transformer fan

meetup that I attended and had a terrific time.

And if anybody is in the Los Angeles area and

would like to attend December's meetup, contact

me and I'll give you all the information for

that. Review wise, I have a... Generations Megatron,

Generations Soundwave. Yeah, yeah. yeah those

ones um i got generations blur and dirge and

i you know what i'm fiddling with dirge right

now and i really like the paint and the color

on this guy it's really good it's really really

nice it really really is um and i love the one

of the one of the biggest selling things on here

is i love the little decepticon symbol in the

middle of his chest That thing is super nice,

but um let's see so yeah, there's that yes. He's

the only seeker with that isn't he yeah? Yes?

That's oh Somebody's calling me. I hit that button

um Look I got straxas or dark mount whatever

you want to call him. I got to do that guy What

else There's some other new things that I'm working

on thanks to the folks over at toyarena .com

whom I'm working with. There's some stuff that

I'm trying to get my hands on to them. I don't

know, I'm really behind on a lot of stuff. Yes,

yes you are. I really am. I was working, I was

like, like I've had, you know, I mean Megatron,

I mean War for Cybertron, Megatron for like...

two weeks or something now and still haven't

done a review on him. I mean, I got the Challenged

Cybertron set that's sitting right there in front

of me. I'm looking at it right now. I haven't

even recorded the packaging portion of my review

for that. It's ridiculous how behind I am on

this stuff. You guys call me lazy for not wanting

to hit the inbox button on YouTube. Holy crap.

I'm sorry, when it comes to shooting a video,

there's a lot more involved in it than just hitting

a simple inbox button. Well, you know, for those

of us who, you know, have like, you know, 25

million watts of light, you know, basically set

yourself on fire for video reviews. I guess anything's

better than Armada Prime, you know, sitting far

out of your house. You know what I could do?

I could do this just for you because I know how

much of a fan of Springer you are. Oh god, you

better not, you asshole. Don't even go there.

It's beautiful. You asshole, don't even go there.

It's beautiful. 1080p. High definition. Good.

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