Masters of the Universe Classics, MattyCollector, and Reissue He-Man

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Five, four, three, two. Hello and welcome to

the 73rd episode of Toycast. I am TF2 on Mike

and joining me is Optobotamus. Hello, sir. Hello!

How are you? I am pretty good. How are you? Ah,

not too bad. Not too bad. Can't complain. Yes.

Well, you could, but it wouldn't help anything.

That's true, and nobody would listen or care

anyhow. So what are you even up to, sir? I'm

bored. You're bored. Well, that's why we're recording

this episode of Toy Gast. I know, but it's one

of those days where Tuesdays are usually very

slow for me for my work. Mondays are always pretty

busy because I don't do anything over the weekend.

So any orders and stuff that I get over the weekend

get combined into one big day on Monday and then

Tuesday rolls around and Tuesdays are usually

pretty slow so I got done with all my work early

today and now I have General Hospital on in the

background. I gotta turn this. This is terrible.

Holy crap. Oh no, I'm sorry. It's the bold and

the beautiful. Followed by as the world turns

and then oh Rachel Ray, okay Yeah, I definitely

don't want to stay on this channel for too long

and we need to change the spike and get some

man shows on or something people's court people's

oh wait no son of a gun People's court doesn't

come on until one o 'clock. I Got nine minutes.

I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'll talk to

you for nine minutes Actually, we recorded it.

It was very cool of him to do this for us. But

last episode, episode 72, I recorded with Cali

from Twitter and SChungMusha118, I think it's

118 or 18 from Twitter, and the incomparable

Derek J. Wyatt himself. We talked about a bunch

of plush stuff an interesting conversation. Yes

one thing about Derek Wyatt is He's he's a he

really likes Interacting with with the fandom.

Yeah, and that that's fantastic. That's so rare

and It's nice that somebody is passionate about

what he does. I mean, he genuinely likes Transformers

and all that stuff and he's passionate about

it and that passion I really thought came through

with a lot of the work that he did on Animated

and it's good to see. It's very refreshing to

see somebody who's in there who is very communicative

with the fandom itself. Yes, and it was very

cool to talk to Derek. We didn't record this

part, but, well, I did ask him one animated question

before we closed the show, so that's in there,

but after the show, after we finished the recording,

and I wish I'd recorded it, we talked about all

different kinds of things, animated as far as

what went into what, and right now, for the life

of me, I can't remember anything we said. Aww.

Now I and everybody else who hadn't listened

to it yet have to go back and listen to that

podcast. Yes. By the time this gets released,

it should have already been out. Let's see here.

I was going to do this in episode 72, but I said

no, I want to save it for one of the now regular

co -hosts, which is you. We actually got a new

iTunes review. This was done August 11th, so

I think it was before you joined up, but it was

like, no, I think we already recorded... I don't

know, whatever. So, this is called A Fun Show

for Toy Collectors, especially Transformers Collectors

by... Optimus 997. I was looking for a podcast

that deals strictly with talking Transformers

toys, and this one fits the bill nicely. I did

like it more when they only dealt with Transformers,

but the host does a nice job finding guests to

talk at length about the toys on their shelves.

It can get a bit meandering at times, but it's

fun to listen to. And the hosts and guests reconcile

their differing opinions, which happens often.

Any Transformers fan should give it a try. Yes,

and I've said this before on the show, we all

have interests other than Transformers. Of course,

yeah. And I mean, by the time way back when Episode

25 hit, I was like, well, why don't we expand

it? Because I'm sure not everyone just has a

Transformers collection. Well, in the case of

Protoman, he has everything, but... You know,

it's just one of those things where, you know,

I wanted to talk about different toys, and especially

with me finding out a certain thing that Mattel

is doing, or has been doing. So yeah, a lot of

my discussions in the next few episodes are going

to be about one specific Mattel property, and

I know Octobotamus is over there cringing. It's

not as bad now. The old adage that time heals

all wounds is appropriate and it's very true

and I'm slowly coming around and I'm assuming

you're referring to the Masters of the Universe

Classics line. Of course. Of course. Of course.

It's one of those things where I have a love

-hate relationship. I love the figures. But you

hate Maddie Collector. It goes a little bit further

than just a disdain for Maddie Collector. Part

of the biggest problem that I think that Maddie

Collector has is the fact that they are partnered

with Digital River. Digital River is their company

that processes all their orders, ships all their

orders, maintains their website, all of this

stuff. And it does their customer service, everything.

It's really so incredibly subpar to me. It's

pathetic. It's atrocious. And I'm not the only

one who thinks this. I mean, it's just a terribly

run website. And because of that, it affects

the line itself. The figures are fantastic. I've

never shied away from how much I love the way

these figures look. It's just getting them is

such a pain in the arse that it's almost unbearable

and you almost don't want to bother collecting

the figures at all because the headache isn't

worth it. Yeah part about it, you know and I've

said since you and obviously spade is not with

us today But since you and spade had joined up

when we've kind of briefly talked about this

in the past, you know, and that's why I've said

I Will never try to go through Meta collector.

I will always buy third party through BBTS And

you know, they're not a show sponsor. So I mean

but but but I mean still it's one of those things

where It's available on BBTS for the most part

like every figure that I want now outside of

like say reissue He -Man and and and Tila and

man -at -arms Every figure is in stock. Of course,

I can't buy anything or any any of them at the

present time because the bills and all that You

know bills come first, but at least they're there,

you know And you know when the whole situation

happened with the battle cat which if anybody's

curious about that without getting too in -depth

I mean They can go watch my video on battle cat

and get the whole story in you know in a much

more grandiose Fashion that I'll be able to explain

now Especially with the appearance of the real

battle cat It's it's a very delicate situation

I don't like I don't like you know I mean I am

going to start reviewing them that's one of the

big things that I kind of announced on Twitter

this past week that I'm going to go I'm going

to start reviewing them and I actually shot and

filmed my orco and Prince Adam and whiplash reviews

I got to edit them all together and they probably

won't appear on my channel for a little while

Mostly because I want to get closer to the 2011

subscription before they start coming out because

that's what the 2011 subscription is what I think

fixes a lot of the problems That were inherent

with the digital River Maddie collector experience

but One of the biggest problems is if you wanted

these figures you had to go to a secondary market

You had to go to eBay. You had to go to big bad

toy store various websites like that that would

carry them but there's an overhead and I understand

the nature of the overhead I mean you buy the

I mean now if I were to do it I mean Big Bad

Toy Store they got to buy the figure the figures

are $20 they have to have them shipped to them

as well which is another $10 so there's $30 of

overhead right there they have to charge their

customers at least $30 otherwise they're losing

money so I understand that and it makes sense

And I think they charge, I don't even think it's

that much. I think they charge around $34 to

$35 for some of their figures. The reissues,

like reissue Merman, reissue Count Marzo, all

the reissues on BBTS are, for the majority of

them, they're between $34 and $44 .99. Yeah,

so I mean, it's not too terribly much of a markup.

No. And the markup that is there, it's between

five and $10 a markup. And I understand that.

I have my own business as well. I understand

the whole markup thing. And they're not getting

these figures at a substantial discount where

they don't have to mark up the figures that much.

They're getting them more than likely the same

way we are. It's not too different. It just always

was a bad business sense in my mind for Mattel

to basically force all of their fans that essentially

got screwed and weren't able to get any of the

figures, force them to go to somewhere else and

buy these figures for a more substantial amount

than what they would get. I mean, money's tight

for a lot of people right now. And while, I mean,

that being said, if money is tight, you probably

shouldn't be buying toys with the money that

you do have, but in hindsight, if you have the

money and if you want to collect these things,

and even still, even if you don't, say money's

tight right now, but you know next month money's

not gonna be tight, so you want to wait till

next month to buy these figures, you can't, because

Mattel's all sold out of them, and if you want

to buy them, you have to go to eBay and you have

to pay twice. what they're worth. So it's tough

for me to say that it's a good system, and for

the longest time, it was tough for me to recommend

them. So I basically stopped. Yeah. I think with,

you know, and you had said to me, well, why not

just get the new subscription for 2011? And at

the time, I'm like, because I added it up for

like 20 figures. It's like Four hundred and seventy

dollars total. I mean, of course you pay you

pay that over time You know you they charge you

each time a new figure comes out. It's not like

you have to pay four hundred and seventy dollars

up front But it's still four hundred and seventy

dollars for 20 figures. I don't know that just

Maybe it's maybe the math isn't isn't equaling

out in my head, but that just doesn't sound Like

a good deal to me and like I said to you on Twitter.

Oh god month, month and a half ago, whatever,

I don't know, I don't even know when that conversation

happened. You know, all the figures that I want

are already out. So I don't mind having, I mean

eBay, screw eBay, I'm not going to friggin' eBay.

You know, Big Bad Toy Store has them in, you

know, for the majority of the ones that I want,

they have them in stock. And when I have some

extra money, sure, if it's in stock, I'll go

get it. But am I gonna go try to go out of my

way to find it now if I don't have the money?

No. Right. And that makes sense. That makes sense.

Like last month, I was torn between, and I know

this is horrible, but I was torn between SD...

Now, I don't think the non -color change version

of Orko and with Adam is turned an SDCC exclusive,

but that's what Big Bad Toy Store has it listed

as. I know the color change version is, but I

don't know anyways. So when I went to BBTS last

month, in August, I looked at two different things.

I looked at the Sons of Cybertron animated two

-pack, and I looked at the Adam and Orko. and

their $10 difference. The Sons of Cybertron animated

set was $54 .99, Adam and Arko were, or Arko

and Adam, or $44 .99. So I'm like, okay, well,

you know, I've got to really watch, you know,

I can buy at least one thing between that price

point, but I really have to watch, you know,

can't go overboard. So I chose Adam and Arko

because yeah, Adora was getting lonely. Her big

brother oh boy Don't pervert that hey, you're

the one that perverted it with he made an adora

in your video so Just because I had them that

close you're the one that did it not me uh...

now you had mentioned something off their uh...

when when i was actually waiting for you to get

off the phone uh... about how you know no let

me finish about how you don't collect toys like

you don't really care about the packaging now

for me i i'm kind of the same way. I think the

only boxes I've actually saved are the Mighty

Mug boxes because, I mean, those are fairly easy

to save. You don't have to rip those apart to

get them open. Now, for me, when I get more of

the Masters figures, I will be buying two of

them, but I will have them as... I will have

the ones that I keep in the packages as display

pieces. Like nailed up on your wall. Yeah, kind

of. Yeah, I mean that's fine. It's a big controversy

for some reason that some collectors keep them

in the box, some of them don't. I have no problem

with anybody that does. I mean a lot of times

the packaging on some of these things are fantastic

looking and you almost don't want to open them

up. I'm really the type of collector that does

not collect frivolous items. I don't just go

out and buy random things. If I have it, it's

because I genuinely like what I'm buying. That

being said, I do like what I'm buying and I don't

have the intention of turning around and selling

them. So, for that purpose alone, I don't keep

them in the box. I open them up, they go on my

shelf, they get played with, and that's really

it. Now, that's not to say that I don't keep

some boxes. My office shelf, the top shelf, is

just filled with boxes of Transformers that do

have some kind of a meaning to me. A lot of the

Encore boxes, I keep all the Encore boxes that

I get. You mean the book boxes? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

you know or you know, I mean, you know some of

the reissues like for example when I got the

encore skylinks I got that box up there because

that box actually has a meaning to me You know

the Metroplex box that's up there not too terribly

long ago Ben or Pia sold me the I always get

the name wrong It's from God master the the power

convoy got Jinrai or something like that. It's

the Power Master Optimus Prime is what it is.

It comes with the extra blue cab thing. When

Ben sold me that, he had the box with it and

I kept that box. So there's a few things that

in terms of boxes, I do keep the boxes but...

Obviously, if they're on blister cards, those

things get destroyed when I open them up. The

packaging for the Encore figures, boxes like

that, where all I have to do is slit a piece

of tape and then slide the figure out, those

boxes are a lot easier to keep than, say, the

blister cards. There are some that I do keep.

Yeah, I gotta say, when it comes to, I mean,

I've only gotten, well, you sent me a Dora, thank

you very much, and I bought Orko with Adam, but

I gotta say, Hasbro needs to take a talking two

with Mattel because Mattel's inserts and their

packaging is a hell of a lot easier to get figures

out of than Hasbro. That's very true. That's

very true. And I think that that is one of the

reasons probably why, like I know back in the

day, you know, people would just, you know, remove

or switch around toys and toy stores and stuff

like that in different packages. But I think

that's one of the reasons why you don't see Masters

in Toys R Us or Target or Walmart, that it's

only online because of the way that they're packaged,

because I mean... Anybody could rip that blister

card open and just and just take a figure out

of the thing I mean, it's like a little flimsy

piece of clear not even plastic, but it's like

a clear rubber band almost Yeah, kind of like

an elastic thing. I will say that in some of

the figures now you you have Adam you have orko

I'm trying to even think I don't remember how

adora was there are some figures that are really

tough to get out of that plastic insert. After

you get through the blister and you pull the

card off and there's a little plastic mold that

surrounds, there are some figures that are tough.

A lot of the ones that come with capes are very

tough to get out because they loop the cape through

the plastic. pulling to get that out. Adora was

fairly easy. She just had stuff like around her

legs and her hands and her chest. Right. Or the

front of the torso around the neck. Orko and

Adam. Orko wasn't that hard because all I did

was I took the back of the blister and just took

my thumb and just pushed Orko from the blister

all the way out. Adam was a nightmare. The reason

why Adam was a nightmare to get out of the package

was because you know a dumb lazy Adam He's laying

down in the package So they and that's why orcos

card is so big because they have this fully articulated

Adam in the bottom of the box That's that's what

I was I was when I first got that when I first

got him now I buy him from a friend of mine who's

on he man .org and sells him to me for Essentially,

essentially the cost of it, the cost of the figure

push, you know, I mean, and you know, and there's

a little bit of a markup. I mean, like I said,

I mean, I paid, I paid $30, I think it was for

my whiplash and I paid 35 for Oracle. And when

I got the box and I took them out, I'm looking

at them, I'm like, why is Oracle's box so much

bigger? So I met you not notice. Did you not

see any reviews of him beforehand? I Did but

it was one of those things where I mean attention

to like pixel Dan. I don't watch a lot of his

stuff Okay, well, that's fun. We're not gonna

get on that whole time I mean, I just I mean

for whatever reason I mean, I didn't see it so

I didn't know that there was gonna be a huge

box difference You know in terms of the white

mailer. I'm staring at the white mailer and I'm

like Did it I'm like what is why is this so big

and I? Messaged JT Mitchell 87 from YouTube and

because I know he got him he reviewed him on

I watched that one But I don't remember the box

being that I'm like dude was your box that big

he's like I don't remember it being that big

and He's like no, you know now come to think

of it. Yeah, I guess it was kind of that big

I'm like why the hell is it so big and then I'm

thinking I'm like Well, because they had to put

Adam at the bottom, and he's like a seven -inch

figure. Yeah. So he wanted to fit, they wanted,

it wanted to work in a normal, one of their normal

blister cards. No, it wasn't. I'm like, okay,

I'm like, that makes sense. But at first, I was

confused, I didn't know. Yeah, um... I'm trying

to see if there's a because I've got the two

of them I've got Adam and Adora here And I'm

just looking at them like face to face here.

I'm trying to see how much of a difference is

I think they're both 7 -inch figures oh yeah,

I mean the I mean there's no difference between

the The female figures in terms of the size which

some people have complained about because they

say that the female figure should be a little

bit shorter but I mean, because in terms of the

female figures, we've gotten Tila, Goddess, Adora,

the Green Goddess. Who else have we gotten? Tila.

Tila and Evelyn. There's four female figures.

Evelyn, Tila, the Green Goddess, and Adora. If

you had Adora have shorter hair, a shorter hair

sculpt, She would be her hair makes her look

taller than Adam Really is what it is and that

whole heel thing on her boot because I've got

them back -to -back now And I'm looking at them

and yeah Adora's heads about a half inch taller

than She would be shorter. Yeah, she was flat

-footed She'd be shorter, but the whole thing

with the female characters or the female figures

is that they want the heels on them, right? Yeah,

whatever. You know, one thing that my girlfriend

is a big She -Ra fan. Uh -oh, here we go. Big,

I mean, well, she liked T -Man too, but I mean,

naturally, I mean, she's a girl, so she's gonna

like She -Ra a little bit more, and she liked

the Princess Apollo and all that stuff. And one

thing that she said that, you know, speaking

of the female figures, and I do really have to

give credit to Mattel and the Four Horsemen for

this. is that the female toys really come across

much more powerful and not as girly as the vintage

figures. The vintage figures were really kind

of... What did my girlfriend say? That these

new figures give a much more real life look to

how women actually look in real life. Well, the

thing about the classics figures, and again,

the only thing I can use as reference is Adora,

obviously, because she's the only one I have.

But from what I've seen of reviews and what I've

seen of pictures, the thing about the Masters

Classics female figures is that they are more

action figure. They're more of an action figure,

whereas the old vintage stuff was dolls. Were

dolls, yeah. But you also got to remember, you

know, back then that... You know, Barbie and

all the female toys that came out had this image,

this perfect image of how women should kind of

look. Very skinny, big boobs, slender, perfect

looking. That was the image of a female back

in the day. It's, you know, and my girlfriend's

point was that these figures now, they're more

well -rounded. I mean, you know, you look at

Adora, you look at all these female, the classic

figures, they have hips. Yeah, you know back

in the 80s girl toys did not have hips. I mean

they were just Sticks they were big boobs, and

they were slender Yeah, and that's you know I

mean and even Mattel has changed the way that

their Barbie dolls have looked yeah, so It's

you know it was nice that they're you know changing

this and putting them into a more like you said

a more action figure look isn't a unrealistic

portrayal of how women Look in today's society.

I mean, I mean and it's still not really all

that accurate because you know, they're you know

more chunky women around then You know skinny

athletic women, but it's nice to see that they're

not Carrying on that barbaric thought process

of how women should look, right? I think they've

done a fantastic job with that. Yeah kudos to

the four horsemen. Yes very much so um So I guess

that's been the discussion topic. I mean, I don't

know, you want anything to say anything else

about Masters in general or anything about, you

know, packaging? And like I said for me, you

know, I agree with you about, you know, most

of the time blister cards get torn to crap, but

at the same time, why I like buying two of everything

that I, you know, and it's stuff that I like.

I don't just go out and buy two of everything

just to have it. Right no, I don't do that, but

I mean with with masters when I do go back And

I do buy you know say to reissue Skeletor's or

to you know Reissue he man's or whatever one

of them is getting open and put in the display

and seeing is how I have had for the past 20

25 some odd years. I've had the original Castle

Grayskull. It's not complete, but I still have

it they look Huh, it's still there. You got the

best part of it Yeah, yeah. These figures, these

Masters figures look so great next to it. They

just do. They really do, and it's been a long

time hope of mine that they will eventually,

somehow, someway, come out with a way that they

can make a more updated and new Castle Grayskull.

more classic version of it and It would be huge

Because that you know the vintage figures are

like five inches these ones the new ones are

like I Don't know. I mean we kind of decided

that they're like seven inch so Grayscale, I

mean Castle Grayscale would be huge, but I would

love to have a new one of those Well, I mean

this one is the original vintage one that I have

it's I would say a foot and a half tall Maybe

that and adora comes up to just like the the

top tooth of of where the jaw bridge is As far

as her head Adam Comes up to and of course, you

can't really compare or go unless he has a stand

Adam comes up to about the same place So, I mean,

you know what? At SDCC this year. They had the

the diorama with all the figures and they had

a version of the 02 Castle Grayskull and I know

it's not real and I know we're never probably

gonna get it, it's just a diorama but oh my god,

that would be so cool if they put that out. Now

I heard a rumor, actually it wasn't really a

rumor, something Pixel Dan posted on Twitter.

Apparently Mattel is no longer doing, is canceling

the 2002 influence for the line. Yeah, I've heard

that as well and You know, I think what they're

canceling is that they're not going to do any

more 2002 characters. Well, see, that would kind

of suck because I think that we should get some

sort of 2000, like a combination between 2002

and vintage stink -or for a figure. You I mean

that's that's Yeah, I mean Yeah, I can really

see I mean all I mean all you really have to

do is repaint merman But but yeah, I mean but

I mean that that's one of those characters where

he existed in the vintage line I think more so

you're looking at like what's the new one that

comes out next month carnivorous or something

like that? Yeah chief carnivorous I don't remember

ever hearing about him in the original cartoon.

No, he wasn't in there. It was a thing that was

introduced in the 02 cartoon. Right, so that's

a character that I don't think would be created.

Keldor is a character that I don't think would

have gotten created. I think that's the kind

of stuff that they're referring to. Yeah. I still

think they're going to go to the 2002 series

To kind of update certain characters, so I think

stink or would be a figure that would probably

still work You know things like that I don't

necessarily I don't I don't I'm not exactly sure

what he meant, but We'll see I don't know I mean

I hope that we get some sort of and I mean granted

We have the vintage he man in classics and all

that but I would like to see And you kind of

mentioned this a while ago to me when Orko with

Adam was first announced. I would kind of like

to see an 02 Classics version of Adam. Absolutely.

I would absolutely love that. That was one thing

that always kind of bugged me. I mean, it was

one of those things where it always seemed kind

of goofy, even when I was young. my thought process

as a child was evolved or something of that nature,

because I would sit there and watch things like

He -Man and say, how can people not see that

He -Man and Adam look the exact same? I mean,

you just change the clothes out. I mean, I don't

understand that. Or you can look at Clark Kent

and you can't see that that's Superman? I mean,

it was things like that that just really kind

of confused me as a child. I think for me, the

issue I took with the O2 cartoon really, like

in the beginning it was fine. The transformation

like the first season, it's basically Adam taking

the sword out, saying the words, and it's like

a lightning bolt and all of a sudden he's He

-Man. In the later seasons, like season two and

part of season three or, you know, the end of,

I don't know, it was only 40 episodes, so I guess

it was just two seasons, but I mean, in season

two later on, once like the snake men come in,

there's a whole new transformation once we learn

about, you know, King Grayskull and all that.

The new transformation shows Adam growing into

being human and to me the first thing i thought

was all well they're teaching kids that you know

you hold a magic sort of you get hit by lightning

and all of a sudden you're taking steroids. Is

it just if you go back and you look at like some

of the when he got the the human of the north

armor and all that stuff in that cartoon if you

look at some of the transformations in season

two or the any of the transformations in season

two you see his skin physically grow. And I just,

I don't like that. It just, it reminds me of,

you know, just, I don't know, it's just weird.

It's just, I don't know, some reason I, I don't

know. The visual aspect of it was not very good.

I like the concept of having Adam being a scrawny

small guy who, because of the power that's instilled

into him, becomes bigger. But I don't think they

needed to show it. And I mean, if they went to

the transformation sequence, if they kept the

transformation sequence that they used in the

first season, I would have been fine with that.

But you're right. I mean, with the growing and

you see his arms just grow, it really reminded

me of an incredible, from the old television

series of Incredible Hulk, where you see it and

the shirt rips. That's what it really kind of

reminded me of and I didn't care for it too much.

I like the concept that he's small and then he

gets big. That works. And I would really like

a Prince Adam in the 2002 style. But yeah, the

visual aesthetic of watching him morph into a

big giant, you know, he -man. was really kind

of awkward looking. Yes. And I'm sorry? I actually

love the 2002 series, the cartoon series now

that I've actually I own it and I've watched

the whole thing all the way through. I love a

lot of stuff that they did in the cartoon series,

but that power sword, that's not a power sword.

It's a very mechanical kind of weirdness to it,

but I mean, I don't think it's bad. I don't think

it's horrible, but just coming off of the original

power, I would much rather like if they ever

made a replica of any of the He -Man swords,

I would much want a 80s original version of it

than the 2002 version. Yeah. No, I mean, I agree.

The man -at -arms figure came with a 2002 power

sword. And I like it. It's nice. And I actually

have it displayed with my battle armor He -Man.

Because for some reason, from the classic, for

some reason the Master of the Universe classic

battle armor He -Man doesn't come with a sword.

It comes with the shield and his battleaxe and

that's it So I'm like that just seems weird Really?

I have what that I said, oh really? Yeah, it's

weird. I don't understand it. But uh, so I mean

I have my battle armor he man displayed with

with the powers with the 2002 power sword just

because it seems Battle ready. It just seems

more hyped up and that's how I always perceived

battle armor. He man. I mean he's I think the

reason why he never came with a power sword in

the classics line is because I don't think he

came with a power sword in the vintage line.

He just came with the axe in the vintage line.

That's possible, but I don't know for sure. I

just think it's stupid because the whole premise

of the armor showing up, the armor is created

by the power sword. That's how they explain it.

I think on the bat on the blister card itself

on the back of a battle armor He -Man's blister

card that the sword Brings this, you know this

extra armor to him, right? I'm like, okay that

that's cool. That makes sense, but the toy doesn't

have a sword to do that with It just seemed like

a complete like missed point and the other use

you have for the power sword is opening the packages

I do I do do that quite a lot and it really pisses

people off hey I actually couldn't I actually

didn't have it like I said I mean I have it displayed

with the He -Man figure now so I didn't have

it handy when I was opening up the white mailer

boxes for Oracle and whiplash so people might

be a little disappointed I wish Hasbro would

do white mailers i know that's mattel's thing

and all that but i love those things they're

nice but i mean i i'm hasbro doesn't do a lot

of uh collector based figures yeah that's true

so that's i mean i think that's part of the biggest

problem and then the ones that they do do are

usually done by takara yeah and takara puts out

pretty nice packaging general I mean I'm thinking

of the masterpiece figures for example oh yeah

I mean those are definitely nice boxes I was

looking I was actually looking at the Takara

release of Rodimus minor from animated and the

packaging for that looks it's just a regular

blister card but the art on it is so much nicer

now is he different colors than the US version?

Kind of got he's kind of got a shiny look to

him and he almost almost comes across looking

like he's purple I know why that is I think it

was Proto Man that told me this or somebody somebody

mentioned this on Twitter somewhere. I don't

know it's because They're making him The Rodimus

Prime colors from season 3 Okay, we all know

how you feel on that then. Alrighty then. So

what toy, actually no, you don't get a choice.

You have to talk about Reissue He -Man. Reissue

He -Man. If you missed out on the first figure,

the first release of the Master of the Universe

Classic He -Man, the Reissue one really does

do a good job of replacing it. If you missed

out on it You're not you're not missing out on

much because they fixed a lot of problems that

were inherent with the first release such as

for some reason they assembled him wrong or Well,

they well, yeah, they assembled them wrong and

they gave him like two right shoulders Which

just looked weird the striations in the muscles

on his shoulders were all going the same way

and they shouldn't and it just kind of really

Looked weird and he also had a lot of reddish

paint around his eyes, so he kind of looked like

he was stoned a lot. It wasn't, you know, nothing

too terribly bad, but the re -issue came along

and really fixed a lot of the problems. They

fixed the shoulder issue, so now the shoulder

looks good, they repainted his face, his face

looks good, and one of the other minor things

that they did in anticipation of releasing the

Battle Cat figure was they redid the material

that was used to make the loin cloth on the reissue

He -Man. It's more of a softer rubber now allowing

for easier fit into the saddle for Battle Cat,

which is much nicer. The figure in general is

just overall a better looking figure to the point

where you almost don't, I mean, you don't really

need the original, the first one. They improved

it and the reissue one in my mind should be the

definitive version that fans get. Yeah, I'm looking

here on Big Bad Toy Store because it's the only

place I can see an actual decent image of him

And they're in the reissue one look does he come

he comes with two power swords doesn't he comes

with a full and a half? He comes with everything

that the original one did yeah, he comes with

a half power sword He comes with a full power

sword comes with his battle axe and a shield

right And I mean everything the only real difference

is a couple of the paint apps and like I was

saying You know with the shoulder and then of

course on the packaging it has the original The

original which I've even said in my reviews is

I I know it's it You know, I know it's an homage

to how they did the the re -releases of the figures

back in the vintage line But today That's stupid.

I think it's terrible. You put the original on

there And it makes it sound like it's the very

first one. And if people go on eBay and buy these,

and if they don't know any better, they're going

to see the original and think it's, well, the

original, which says it's the first one. See,

I respect that you don't like it and you think

it's stupid, but I disagree with you because

when I saw... How dare you disagree with me?

When I... Saw the package when I saw your review

of him. When I saw the packaging, I'm like, oh,

well, they mean it's the original He -Man from

the 80s cartoon. Maybe they'll put out a 2002

He -Man. That's the way I take it. But that's

not how it, that's not, because every reissue

has the original stamp on it. Oh. So so I understand

what you're saying and if that were the case

I would completely endorse that whole thing But

every reissue that comes out has the original

stamped onto it so the so this past month we

got the the re -release of Crapjaw. His had the

original on it so That's my biggest concern and

problem that I have with it Us collectors know,

but somebody else who's just now getting into

the line may not necessarily know that. And that's

what kind of bugs me about some of the stuff

they did. They did something similar to that

with the San Diego Comic Con release of the Ghostbuster

Egon figure, where they had this really nice

resealable package. And everybody hyped it up

and was like, oh, this is so nice. You can swap

it out. You can have it be, you know, Mint on

card or you can have it outside and keep the

box and you can swap it out I'm like, yeah or

if somebody really wanted to they could open

it up play with it then put the put the thing

back in the box and sell it on eBay as Mint on

card still and charge more because it's no long.

It's not loose Yeah, that's kind of silly and

stupid, you know, so I have a question about

very clearly. Yeah, I have a question about the

he -man figure I'm looking at the only picture

the only other picture because they Hasbro BBTS

shows a front image in a back image I'm looking

at the back image and it shows his axe in the

holster Does his sword fit in the holster that's

on his back? The axe and the sword both do yep

Okay, I wasn't sure because they only show the

axe because the swords obviously in his hand

in this image so They both do and actually until

I got actually I might still have it like that

I'm trying to remember um On my shelf and actually

I got to do my um, what's on Omtoponomus's shelf.

I yeah, I still have to record that new thing

The uh The battleaxe I had him holding a sword

in the battleaxe. I have slotted through that

holster on his back. Mm -hmm So, um, it's pretty

I like it. Yeah, that was very very cool. I will

be talking about Classics Adora. This is the

first Adora figure we have ever gotten and big

thanks to to Optobotamus here for sending her

to me at the the argument of his girlfriend.

But very very cool. I think my only complaint

about her is she's extremely bow -legged. That

and that's Unfortunately, I mean that's that's

common with all of them. Is it really? Yeah,

I mean if you look at my review I mean, it's

not as pronounced on mine, but you can see it.

There's some bowleggedness going on. Yeah The

only other complaint I really have and I was

talking to you off air about this I like how

she has the holster for the sword however Why

did they have to cut a hole in the plastic of

her back? Because I can literally see the white

part of her back behind here. Under her shirt.

Yeah, yeah. No sports bra there. That's a super

sports bra. What are you talking about? It's

the most powerful sports bra in the universe.

Good reference, sir. Good job She is extremely

awesome and you know again, thank you for for

sending her to me cuz yeah, but yeah her sword

I don't know I had to bend it a little bit to

get it out of the package. I think that's the

only problem I had with her packaging. And then

the sword is, because it's thinner and it's slimmer

than the other He -Man swords, it bends very,

very easily if you're not careful with it. That

was one of the controversies actually about Adora

herself was that the the sword was not the same

size as He -Man's sword. And they're supposedly,

you know, in the storyline, they are supposed

to be clones of one another. The only difference

being that hers has the jewel in the center.

So a lot of people were a little up in arms that

Adora's sword is smaller than He -Man's or Prince

Adam's for that matter. Well, the thing about

The thing about Adora's sword, first of all,

look at her hands. Look how small her hands are.

Oh yeah. So, I seriously doubt, and I had a heart,

because I basically had to do the Transformers

animated RC method to get her sword in her hand.

Basically push it in from the top of her hand.

I couldn't push it in from the sides of her fingers.

So, you know, I think the thing is, is that they've

got these really small hands on her. So they

had to make a smaller hilt of a sword, and they

couldn't make it as large as, say, Adam's is.

That makes sense. Or He -Man's. I think it fits

her perfectly as far as the size. I don't know

why they made a gold one for She -Ra, though.

That makes no sense to me whatsoever. From my

understanding, and I don't have it, but the She

-Ra figure that came out initially way back in

the day, It was gold. Yeah, it's an homage to

the gold sword. Yeah, but it's still stupid if

you ask me. Yeah, it pretty much is. I don't

get it, but what are you gonna do? Oh man. I

do like the fact that she comes with her blaster

to signify that she was Force Captain Adora.

The blaster is extremely articulated. I do agree

with both you and JT Mitchell where you guys

said in your reviews that you wish that the belt

was front ways with the buckle matching her molded

on belt that she has on her. But, I don't know.

Well, whatever. There's not much we can do about

it other than just turn it around. Right, exactly.

That's all you can do. Yup. And the face sculpt

on her is just amazing. I think that was the

first time in my review I referred to it as gorgeous.

And a lot of people thought that was weird and

awkward. But whatever. My book's Hillary, damn

it, I'll use it how I want. I agree, I agree.

That just made it a whole lot more... The point

of rooted hair is that it makes it doll -worthy.

And if you have sculpted hair like these, like

all of the Master's classics do, it makes it

more action -figury, I guess you could say. That's

a good way of looking at it. Yeah. And I don't

know if it's... I don't know. It's kind of weird.

She has, like... I know quality control on different

figures is all the same, but on mine, she can

bobble, like, side to side. You know the female

the female figure for that have really bad head

joints every single one of them The only thing

that helps them is the molded hair which kind

of keeps it Not as bobblehead II. Yep You know,

that's that's all it is, but every single female

figure so far has had that problem Yeah, yeah

Yeah, what are you gonna do? uh... so yeah i

i think that's about it for for for this episode

i mean i really don't have too much else to say

about her uh... she's just an amazing amazing

figure get her it can yeah see this see that's

the problem we really can't like we can say you

know you need to find this figure but at this

point Your only resource is eBay because even

BBTS is sold out of her. I think I found before

you agreed to or told me that you would send

her to me, I think I found one on Amazon for

like $38 .99. Not too bad of a price. No, it's

not too bad of a price at all. But I think that's

the only place I've found and I won't, I don't

do eBay anymore. I just don't. Yeah. So yes.

What else do we want to talk about? Anything?

No. You've pretty much picked my brain. Yes.

Join us next episode where Prince Adam and Cringer

will be making an appearance. Adam! That's actually

a fairly good impression for Cringer. Yeah, that's

my, I've been working on it. That's all I can

say. I can't say anything else. I just say, Adam!

You know, it's one of those things when I first

got these figures, really quick before, when

I first got them, when you first sent me her

and then when I got Orko and Adam in, and I put

them with Grayskull, because obviously my Grayskull

was sitting in the corner until now, but you

know, because they were, you know, outside of

some random really old you know paint faded ninja

turtles grayskull really didn't have a purpose

in my collection yeah um ever since i've got

these and i've got them on display it's like

oh man i need to go back and get out uh secret

of the sword the dvd yeah it's we um my my girlfriend

has the first two seasons of she raw And the

secret of the sword is included on the first

season. So every now and then, we'll put it on

and we'll watch it. It's good fun. You said she

has the first two seasons, so she has season

two, volume one and volume two? Yes. So she's

got the full mural. See, I only have the He -Man

sets, and I'm glad that I've waited because She

-Ra is getting a 25th anniversary complete series

treatment. Yeah. Son of a bitch. The only thing

is, there's no mural. I mean, if you're into

the whole mural thing. Yeah. But yeah, she's

getting a 25th anniversary DVD release to her.

So I'm glad I waited. I'm a little annoyed that

I didn't. That's kind of funny. I don't know

what we need to do. Yeah, you know, you're talking

a little bit about the size difference of the

swords. I'm gonna link you to a picture that

I have on photo bucket. I actually took a screen

cap of the two swords when they're holstered.

The image of where He -Man's in the tractor beam

thingamajigger. Ooh. Tractor beam thingamajigger.

Let's look at the tractor beam thingamajigger.

Supposed to be looking at the swords, dammit.

Oh. Yeah, you know what? It does look smaller.

See? Interesting. Yeah. I mean, so the... So

the fact that the sword... Now I'm being nosy

and I'm seeing what you have all on your desktop.

That's an old picture. That's actually from my

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to pimp out your YouTube stuff before we go?

Right now, I'm... I'm working on a couple, I

actually got a lot of stuff because my girlfriend,

she started school, she's a teacher and she went

back to school so I get a lot more free time

now and I'm trying to get through some of my

stuff. I got the two power core combiners, the

Superion or the aerial bots and the combaticons

I still gotta do. Or going Adam or going Adam

I got or going Adam and whiplash are recorded.

I just got to edit them I Still got to get my

g1 Metroplex done. I actually I have the the

new Voyager battle blades Optimus Prime from

the hunter Decepticons line that I'll probably

have that tomorrow shipped to me I Don't know

and then there's a bunch of older stuff Vintage

stuff that I'm working on getting there. There's

a for anybody. I'm just real quick for anybody

in the LA area We're having this big meetup October

3rd from anybody that's on TFW 2005 We're getting

together and I'm gonna there's a bunch of stuff

that I'm trying to buy from that so Busy busy

busy a lot a lot of stuff and I actually kind

of decided that I'm going to start trying to

get more early figures because people seem to

like those. And I thought, like, eh, I haven't

done those in a while. Maybe I'll try doing some

of those. So that's that's about it for me. Yes.

The life of a busy YouTube reviewer. World famous.

World famous. Yeah. I know. We'll pretend. Well,

at least U .S. famous, I guess. Yeah. There you

go. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Toycast.

I wish you would join us next time. For now,

I am TFJU and Mike with Optibotamus. Thank you

for listening, and until next time. Oh, shit.

Good thing I still have the recording going.

We forgot to talk about the new theme song. It's

been three or four or five episodes. Have you

had a chance to listen to any of this yet? I

have, yes, and it sounds really good. Yeah, um,

really quick before we actually leave, even though

we're not gone yet, um, I was going, I don't

know, I've had a lot of nostalgia stuff going

on and I've just, I've watched TFTM, Transformers

the movie, I don't know, like four or five times

in the past three and a half weeks. Good Lord,

man. Shut up, it's a good movie. Okay. I don't

know. I just I've just felt nostalgia and it's

really I haven't watched the actual movie that

time But I'm just going through all the DVD stuff

on the 20th anniversary DVD I think I've watched

the movie itself like twice in the past two or

three weeks You know Not to cut you off, but

you're not in bad company because for some reason

I've been watching season three from my Matrix

DVD set. I've been watching season 3 the past

two, three nights. Yeah. I haven't gotten up

to season 3 yet. I'm still in season 1 on the

Matrix set. But I was going through the movie

and I was going through the features and there's

a special feature on the 25th, or not 25th, the

20th anniversary DVD called The Death of Optimus

Prime. And it's, you know, it begins and they

show a montage of all Optimus's scenes in the

film and they have this really, really cool,

anthematic rock music that plays over those images.

And then it cuts to like Flint Dilley and Sue

Blue and Nelson Shin and they're all talking

about, you know, the death of Prime and they

didn't know and, you know, all this and all that.

And I really, really liked that anthematic rock

music. I thought it was really, really cool.

So I asked my buddy, Steve Megatron, who is the

co -creator of GeekCast Radio Network, I said,

hey, can you take this, put it with the optimist

asking Cliff Jumper to do the countdown, put

the music, and then use your Beast Wars Megatron

voice to introduce whoever the co -hosts are

going to be. And he's like, yeah, sure. So we

have, like, I don't know. Oh shit. Nine different

versions of this. It's the same theme, but it's

just him saying like myself and you or myself,

you and Spader or myself and Proto Man and whoever

else. But yeah, I mean, it's basically a custom

theme even though we've taken that music riff

and I just love it. It brings you into the podcast,

I think. You're absolutely right. The park it

needed something like that. Yeah, you know when

I originally started the thing when I originally

started this show I Originally mashed up Parts

of each of the US Transformers themes so I've

heard that yeah, yeah, sorry The biggest thing

that I problem I always had with it was that

it just seemed too long. Oh really Yeah, see

I took like a like I don't know like I don't

know two or three seconds from each one and the

main goal I had with that original theme was

to get the name obviously the G1 thing isn't

isn't gonna say the name because but they do

it you know more than meets the eye and all that

crap but like with the Beast Wars and the Beast

Machines I wanted to get the name on it and then

with the animated one I wanted to get the end

of it where it says transformers animated and

then it has the transforming sound But these

ones are like, I don't know, 50, they're between

like 48 and 55 or 59 seconds long. So it's not

too bad. It's under a minute for a theme. It

sounds good. Yes. I like it. You what? I like

it. You like it. Okay, so I guess if we have

Octobotomus' approval, everything goes well.

Yeah, the Octobotomus seal of approval has been

stamped. Yes. the intro for the podcast. Yes,

and now he just needs to go un -privatize all

of his Masters Classics videos. You know I gotta

work that into almost every show that you're

on, right? It's true, it's true, you do. It's

true, I understand. It's kind of like a reminder.

I understand, it makes sense. See you next time,

folks.