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Hasbro’s Sneaky Product Teases and Clone Wars General Grievous

About this Episode
Cliffjumper, commence countdown! Five, four,
three, two, one! With your host, TFG1 Mike, General
Techno. Yeah cat. He's a cat robot. Yeah, that's
technically an altmo. I don't know whatever anyway
I'd gone to Toys R Us Oh God a Few weeks ago
might have been last month. I don't remember
and I was looking in the transformer stuff cuz
we were on the hunt for Protomus which didn't
find any but that's fine And I actually finally
ran into a pack of jolt and and ravage for the
robot heroes And I still maintain that thing
is an ugly piece of brown shit. Ugh. I mean,
it's not, but we aren't going to agree on this,
so I won't bother arguing. No, we're not. So,
welcome to Tyecast, episode 71. I am your host,
Steve, Joe, and Mike, and joining me is General
Techno. Hello, sir. Hello there. How are you?
All right. All right. I'm doing okay. That's
good. Settle it settling in after my move. I've
still got a bunch of stuff figures and stuff
I still need to unpack a couple weeks later,
but I've got a chunk of my collection unpacked
So you know and it's growing already so oh It's
growing is it Well, yeah, I mean, it's August.
This is like when we're getting like all the
new stuff right now in Canada, so yeah Yeah So
you moved, huh? You moved out on your own, finally.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was just a matter of...
It was just a matter of, like, gaining a job
and moving out, basically, so. Yeah. See, I'm
assuming it's just, like, a one -bedroom apartment
or something like that. Yeah, yeah. It's nothing...
It's nothing huge. I mean, but... I mean, it's
a good size for one person, though, so... It's
a really good size for one person. Yeah. That's
good. That's good. Works so well, so... And it's
close to work, too, so, I mean, I've got no complaints.
And also, of course, yeah, and of course just
tie into my various hobbies there's a Walmart
and a Toys R Us that are like That they're like
15 minutes away on my bike in the direction.
So That's not that's pretty good. Well, actually
probably less probably closer to Toys R Us might
be 15 But probably closer to 10 the Walmart's
probably like 10 or so on a bike. Yeah Because
the Toys R Us is like five minutes from work.
So That's cool Yeah, we've we've been back for
about almost I think Eight or nine episodes something
like that. I mean there's I did those we did
those special episodes 61 through 65 were special
episodes and and now we're up to 71 and You're
officially back. Yeah. Well, yeah, we've been
officially back We're bringing some new blood
in and everything else who you brought in off
to bottom s and spada and all that stuff. So
we're still doing the rotating coast thing and
continue to do that. Well, I like doing the rotating
coast thing because it's more variety. I mean,
Spada, I don't really know much about him, but
I've read some of his toy reviews on the AllSpark,
and I mean, he's generally pretty fair, so. Yeah,
he's pretty fair when he likes stuff. When he
doesn't like stuff, he's harsh. But it's true.
I mean, it's, you know, really what, you know,
it's... It's true a lot of the things that he
says. I'm sure they are. Usually people who have
harsh things to say do. And when it comes to
toy collecting, if they're rational people, even
if they're harsh, there's generally a genuine
element of truth to what they're saying. Yup.
But yeah, that's pretty much all that's been
going on with me. Just getting toys in. It's
not that I'm running out of toys now, but I've
I've gotten a whole bunch of stuff But some of
the stuff I'm saving for certain episodes, so
yeah, that makes sense. Yeah So yeah, let's see
what what do we want to discuss for the discussion
topic? Well, I mean we've gotten a lot of one
thing that Hasbro has done a lot of lately which
My merit discussion is they've started figuring
out clever ways to sneak tidbits to fans on a
new product without actually announcing anything.
Specifically, they've been on several instruction
manuals of light. They've been sneaking in alternate
heads on the instructions. Yeah. Like, I think
the first recent use of this that people noticed
was on movie lockdowns instructions, when people
noticed a different head. And then people started
looking and going, OK, that looks similar to
Axor's head. He was an action master from back
in the day. And it looked similar to his head.
And we knew that there was an Axor that was going
to be in the toy line due to Walmart leaked information.
So people tuned together. And then what people
noticed, of course, later on, right after as
well, is that we'd actually seen this head design
ever since the 2009 BotCon, sorry, not BotCon
San Diego Comic -Con sketchbook, because that
head's actually in there. But anyway, Hasbro's
continued this with, first with the War for Cybertron
Bumblebee instructions. There's a distinct cliff
jumper head in there, and they later confirmed
that they were doing a cliff jumper. And now
we've seen three examples of it recently with
the Generations in Hunt for the Decepticons with
toys that aren't out yet, but that Hasbro's posted
the instructions online. We have for Darkmount,
aka Straxus, he's got Skalgren's head as... in
his instructions. That's a repaint that we didn't
know about, so people were able to figure out
who that was pretty quickly. But in the case
of, uh, Pterodive and Tomahawk, we've also gotten
alternate heads on the instructions, and people
are still trying to figure out who those are,
right? Like, if they're pre -existing characters,
if so, who they are. Wasn't Skullgren shown off
at BotCon this year? They showed him, uh, yes,
they did show design sketches of him at BotCon.
I don't think they showed an actual co - I don't
think that they showed the actual toy, but yeah.
So that's how they didn't use Skulgrim. He's
a repaint of Straxus. One thing as well, these
figures could still very well have different
accessories. For instance, with the lockdown
instructions, he's got the hook on the instructions,
but Axor's head. So, whereas Axor has a different
weapon. I think what Hasbro is doing with this
is not only giving us a preview of potential
repaints or whatever, as far as moldings, but
as far as double heads or different head molds,
there's a lot of the stuff, a lot of the other
figures, not really Hasbro, I don't know about
Star Wars or G .I. Joe stuff, but a lot of the
stuff that Patel does, like with the Ghostbusters
and Master's Universe, sometimes they will include
in the package an alternate head. So like say...
Yes, there's a lot of manufacturers who do this.
Right. So I mean, you know, I'm not surprised
that Hasbro is sneaking this stuff into currently
released or currently future like next couple
of weeks. Right. You know, releasing toys with
instructions that have... different head molds.
This isn't a brand new policy for them but something
that's got picked up steam since universe 2 .0
when they figured out when they got the idea
that you know if we design our repaints ahead
of time then we can get the head molds on the
same mold like the big obstacle to doing remolds
of course is that you've got to do it traditionally
you'd have to do a new mold in order to do that.
But what they figured out is that they could
put the heads on the same mold and then just
key off the different parts of the mold So it's
a one -time engineering cost so they aren't actually
So it costs the same amount of money to do two
slightly different figures, right? Right And
they've been really using that because it's an
easy it's an easy way to sell toys Yeah, and
you know has broken, you know on the record say
up and down back to front that they don't you
know listen to fans or they they they can't directly
take ideas from fans that's that's crap except
that's not what they haven't said like stealing
ideas but they have said they do pay they do
pay very close attention to what the fan base
says right but the the answer I don't know it
was one of those one of those quarterly question
and answer things that I saw in TFW One of the
questions was, do you directly take fan feedback
or ideas from fans? Do you go about making the
toys from something fans may mention to you?
And the answer was something along the lines
of, no, we do not directly take solicited ideas
from fans. That's true. It was something along
those lines. Anyone who's read stuff like comic
books, for instance. message board I go to for
one of my comic books that I read that's run
by the author and he explicitly says he doesn't
want he doesn't want people going and mentioning
fan ideas unless they're like marked by spoiler
tags or something like that because he said that
if you guys say this here and I read then that
means I probably and I see it and that means
I can't use it because even if I had the idea
already it's there's now the potential that people
will claim oh he stole my idea Yeah. So yeah,
that makes perfect sense. And they do, I mean,
soliciting input from the fan base is still a
different thing than taking ideas wholesale from
people. Right. Like hearing a lot of people go,
oh, we'd love to see another one of these characters.
Yeah. And then going, oh, we should make this
guy. A lot of people want him is very different
than saying, Oh, right. Yeah. No, yeah, and I'm
not saying that, you know, I'm not saying anything
negative against it. I'm just saying that, you
know, it's one of those things where they paid...
Hasbro and, you know, any toy company or comic
book company or non Michael Bay movie, you know,
they'll listen to fans and they'll, you know,
implement stuff. That's fine, but... Like I said,
they're not going to outright go to, say, you
or I and ask us what we want to see from a new
lug nut or whatever. Yes. And keep in mind, a
question like that is the type that's going to
go straight to their PR department rather than
the designers. And the PR departments can give
the standard answer. Yeah. Anything else you
want to talk about for as far as has rose I mean
with the new heads I mean, I guess one thing
to mention was I mean with speculation I mean
myself myself I've really got my fingers crossed
in terms of personal wants that tomahawk's new
head it turns out to be a Spinister from a g1
Because he's got the same type of alternate mode
his robot mode is really similar. And so I would
love to see a new spinister toy And I mean, the
fact that I'm referencing a more C -list or G1
is kind of amazing in itself, given my knowledge
about it. But a lot of that just has to do with
the fact that one of the first G1 comics that
I read and then reread and reread and reread
was one of the Matrix quest issues, which had
Thunderwing and Wind Sweeper and then Needlenose,
Spinister, and like all those guys going up against
like Pretender Grimlock, Bumblebee, and Jazz
with the Matrix creature in there. Yeah. So I
mean when and wind sweeper and spinisters bios
were in the issue itself So I know those two
characters very well by heart Right because I've
read that over and over and over right All right
I guess we'll jump into display case and I guess
I will go first I am going to be talking about
Transformers universe challenge at Cybertron's
the three pack set Let me tell you about Cyclonus.
I gotta tell you, this Cyclonus is superior to
the other two infinitely. The only downside to
him is that the nightstick is silver and not
chrome. But, I've got my US version, the original
Hasbro version, and I have to actually hold him
up to like in front of a light. to actually see
his light piping on the channel huh who the original
yeah the original really i've never had i've
honestly i've always loved that figure because
his light piping is so good i mean the thing
is like i don't have like by my computer where
my speakers are i don't have light source from
that side okay but i mean just even just uh even
just holding him here not holding Well, yeah,
okay, it does, but holding him from a light source
that's coming in from the back, yes, he does,
the light piping does show up, but this new one,
which is just infinitely awesome, the light piping
shows up immediately. Ah, so they're using a
lighter shade of red plastic in them? Clear plastic?
I'm not sure if that's what that means. Well,
it could be. Let me put them side by side. I
mean, like, just a case in point in terms of
light piping, one of the better figures I have
for light piping, the Autobots I notice tend
to not be very good simply because they tend
to use darker blue plastic for them. And when
you've got a thick layer of that, it takes a
bit of light. Like, classic Optimus Prime has
horrible light piping. But then if you take something
like say inferno Inferno is a special case because
he's got mainly because he's got clear light
pipe the piping like as well as like with some
blue mixed in so his light piping is ridiculously
good and even like hank a optimist hank a rotimus
and Hank a optimist prime. They also have lighter
blue plot clear plastic. So their light piping
works a lot better than the classics versions.
Yeah Well, I guess it's because I have my monitor
on that the light piping on the challenge set
comes out a little bit better. And I've got the
two of them standing next to each other in front
of the monitor, so the light piping comes out
on the US version. But the US version is still
slightly darker than the Challenged Cybertron
version. It just is. I don't know. Right, it
probably does use a slightly lighter red plastic.
Yeah. That wouldn't surprise me. This guy, I
haven't... Everybody knows that I buy two of
everything so I haven't he will this one will
forever stay in robot mode So I haven't actually
seen the jet mode other than pictures, but This
guy is pretty much the way he looked way cyclonus
looked in transformers the movie 1986 I don't
know what has bro or Takara were doing when they
put up the US version in the darker purple and
then the girly lavender for the henkay version,
but I know I can guess what Hasbro was thinking
with theirs. I mean, first of all, I'd call it
more of a dark blue than a purple. No, this is
purple. Okay, I guess it's a matter of opinion,
but what they were going for with that one was
they were going for a homage to the original
toy colors as opposed to the cartoon colors.
You mean the original US one? Yeah, they were
going to the 1984. Yeah, the original US one
was homage to the original toy colors. So it
is accurate in that respect. I guess, but I mean...
Which one are you saying is blue? The US or the
Challenger? The US. The Takar one is clearly
a light purple. No, this is clearly a dark purple.
There is no mistaking this. Actually, I guess
there is some purple on this. No, the entire
thing is purple. There is no way that this is
dark blue. There's just no way. I think you're
right. Yeah, there's just no way. But with the
challenge set, the only thing that... And I'm
noticing even more and more differences between
the two. Like on the U .S. version, on his shoulders,
he has a little bit of red on the top. On the
challenge set, it's all purple. There's no red.
His face is way more noticeable. uh... versus
the the the u .s. one because the u .s. one while
it is noticeable it's not clearly defined i mean
you can see it has an open mouth yeah yeah but
this one is is is much much better and i just
thoroughly enjoy this one the only problem with
mine for some strange reason the wings don't
They're back the way they're supposed to be but
sometimes they move because I don't know what
I guess It's just the way the joint is and it
doesn't click in anywhere And I think that's
the same case, let me see Yeah, that's the same
case on the on the US one too. So It's just if
you touch the the wing part like the the pointy
part of the wing it'll it'll move on the joint
behind his, on the back of his arm. Right. Cause
they don't actually peg in anywhere. But this
guy is just, I have to get another challenge
at Cybertron set just for this guy. And of course
for another Rodimus, but that's a discussion
for another day. Um, nightstick being silver
is extremely well done. I think outside of the
fact that, um, and I don't know why, I really
have no complaints against this guy outside of
the fact that on both of them, and I'm sure on
the hen came one as well unless Takara did it
differently, his left hand, there's no hole.
Yes, yes, that's how they designed it, really.
But why? I mean, the main interest was in putting
the peg hole on there for the gun. I'm honestly
not sure why they didn't do it on the other hand.
I mean, I'll admit it is kind of a baffling decision.
I mean, yeah It kind of makes no sense but Other
than that, I mean this is like It's like this
toy just stepped right out of the 86 movie. Honestly,
it is Yeah, now see I just have to hang came
the classes when I might get challenged at the
Cybertron because I'm getting stuff from VBTS
anyway Yeah, you need to go back to BBTS and
put that on your list there. I'm definitely tempted
to add it to my pile of loot, so... I mean, it's
just, it's actually... I mean, the Rodimus is...
I'm kind of set so on, because I've got both
Rodimi already. Well, if you... The Ceylonus
I'm kind of interested in, Galvatron I'm kind
of interested in. Galvatron's a piece of shit.
He just hits. I've got some more, so... Here
he is here, so you can see him actually. I've
seen pictures of Galvatron, and I'm honestly...
Yeah, but I mean, so you can see Cyclonus as
far as... See how purple he is. Yes, he's got
a really good shade of purple. I will agree.
That's the thing he has over the Henkei one.
I do like his shade of purple better. If you
get a set and you don't want the Rotomus, give
it to me. That way I only have to get Cyclonus,
but whatever. Overall, this guy is amazing. And
you know the funny thing? This one this this
challenge at thread Cybertron three pack one.
I don't know if you've seen my pictures I'm not
sure if I put them up on Facebook, or I don't
know I put them somewhere I think I saw some
of them so this guy fits in with animated in
it's a I've taken pictures of Him next to Rodimus
him next to RC I took a group shot of him with
shockwave in the background and jazz and bum.
He fits in because honestly, seriously, we will,
this is probably the closest we're gonna get
to an animated version of Cyclonus. Yes it is.
And animated was basically the G1 toy in transformation,
which this one is. Yeah. Pretty much. But he
fits in very, very well with animated, I think.
Of course I don't have my Megatron in robot mode
so I can't really I don't know how well he fits
in with Megatron but with the rest of the ones
that I have with Ultra Magnus and Elite Guard
Bumblebee and Jazz and Blur and all he fits in
very well as far as this color so very very cool
Yeah, I mean it does look like a very good figure.
I will agree, and I'm actually tempted to I'm
sorry good No, that's pretty much all I was saying
I'm actually tempted to sell my other cyclones
because I have two of the US versions. Yes. I
don't know huh I'm sure I just get I've actually
got a second one in box as well, but I haven't
opened so yeah I got him partly because then
I could use him I could troop build a couple
of cyclone eyes so Yeah, then never got around
to opening him and he's still in this box I've
got a whole bunch of toys that are still in the
box that I moved with me when I moved I've got
a box full of toys that are that's Mostly full
of toys that haven't left their box Like my mint
box stuff so I've got quite a few quite a bit
of that to all things considered but kind of
surprised me when I went through it Yes, so I
think that's pretty much all I have to say about
him I will probably do like a little discussion
thing in a future episode of Toycast when I eventually
get a second one so I can see him in alt mode
because I just I don't know like the transformation
from the original one to get it into robot mode
was was fairly easy but when I tried to put the
original back into alt mode it didn't turn out
too well so I said screw it and I wasn't gonna
do it anymore So I'll probably do a little mini
update later when I get another one. Okay. So
what will you be talking about today? I'm going
to be talking about, despite the fact that I've
gotten a lot of Transformers recently and I could
have easily talked about any one of them, I mean
seriously, I've gotten a lot and I'm going to
be getting more probably this week when Generations
of Hanford, the Decepticons, the Deluxes show
up near my house, but I mean apartment rather,
but What I'm going to be talking about though
is some non -Star Wars stuff. I'm going to be
talking about some of the new Clone Wars figures.
Now, some of you have probably seen this if you've
been to a toy store, but Clone Wars, it's a pretty
good toy line if you've ever gotten any of the
figures. Sometimes you have posability sacrifices
in order to keep them more on model in terms
of the designs, but like the sculpting is being
really stellar in the figures and I've picked
up... stuff here and there in the past for figures
I've really liked. And the 2010, 2011 series
for Clone Wars really knocks it out of the park.
These are the ones with the new packaging. First
though, I want to just talk about the new gimmick
that they included with every figure, which is
actually a really neat idea. They've finally
given stands to all the Clone Wars figures, which
was one of the big flaws of the first line. Because
I've got some Clone Wars figures that simply
cannot stand, like Darth Sidious and Admiral
Ularin. They can barely stand. But these ones
all come with stands that removes that flaw.
But what was really clever is they decided to...
I don't know how familiar you are with tactics
at all? Not at all. Or just the idea of having
some sort of... battle game where you have points
and then roll and then you know roll dice sort
of thing to fight. What they did was they packaged
a little card with every every figure that for
that particular character that has like you know
kind of like a training card game sort of thing
where it's got different statistics on them you
know like stuff like uh you know force ability
battle skills like all that sort of stuff and
numbers and a dice package with each one as well.
And the cards clip onto the back of the stands,
and the idea is that this is the Galactic Battle
Game, as they call it. I don't know the rules
myself, but the idea is that you can actually
use these figures in order to play a game with
them. The figures aren't necessary, they're accessories
to the game more than anything, but it's still
a very cool idea. And it's one that I actually
thought up something similar in my head years
ago and went, oh man, someone really should do
this. And someone did, and I'm glad. Very cool.
It's a clever use for stands that, well, I probably
help people keep track of the cards as well because
the cards can attach to the slide into the stands
and make them like playing pieces. Right. But
anyway, I'll talk about the stuff now. I think
I'll do that one last and I'll just talk about
the other ones quickly just because I've got
more to say. Say about that one, but I got four
of the ones from a Clone Wars the first one was
the new Yoda figure which is it's the same as
the one from last year, I think only it's on
the new card and Like as I mentioned the Clone
Wars figures are really good with show accuracy
and Yoda he looks like he stepped out of the
cartoon I mean, he's pretty much bang on. He's
got a cloth coat. He's really posable. He's bang
on the Yoda. He's got his walking stick and lightsaber.
Then you've got one of the characters from Season
2 who's a new Star Wars character who is a prey
of Visla. I'm probably doing the name wrong,
but anyway, he's the commander of the Death Watch
Mandalorians that show up in Season 2. And he's
pretty sweet. He's got a couple of dual pistols.
He's got a dark saber like a Basically like a
sword of some sort for using against lightsabers
and a removable and a removable jetpack helmet
and a Cloth cape like the type that hangs off
the side like the side as opposed to the back
Right, and he looks really cool. I mean, he's
all right with a helmet But I actually don't
even pose him with that because his head sculpt
is just so good and he's also really posable.
And then the third one I'm going to talk before
I get to my main one I'm talking about is going
to be Aura Singh. She first cameoed in Star Wars
Episode 1, she's shown up in Expanded Universe
fiction a lot, and she's had a number of appearances
in Clone Wars. And her sculpt, it is amazing
because it looks exactly like the show model.
It is definitely, I think, one of my favorite
Clone Wars. Clone Wars sculpts date. It's really
good. It comes with a sniper rifle and a couple
of pistols and your sniper rifle can hang off
her back and it hangs pretty well, too. But it's
another bang, but it's really posable and it's
bang on. And the fact that they put stands with
these figures makes them a lot better because
you don't need to worry about whether or not
they're going to be able to hold the poses you're
putting them in. But Coup de Grace I'm going
to talk about is the new General Grievous figure.
I'm a Grievous fan. I've been a Grievous fan
for a while. I've got all the figures from the
episode 3 toy line of Grievous in storage somewhere.
And I've got both the Clone Wars figures of him.
And the first one was really, to some extent,
mediocre in terms of... Again, it was a symptom
of not having stands because the figure was really,
really hard to balance. He had virtually... He
had very little leg pose ability. If memory serves,
I think his leg pose ability was his hips moving,
that's about it. But his legs were locked otherwise,
and as a result, he couldn't actually really,
it was really tricky to get him to hold poses.
And then not just that, but because of the way
he has the more, the legs with the massive toes,
you can't even peg him into a stand because he
has nowhere to peg a stand into. So I mean, he's
got no, yeah, he's got no peg on him. There's
nowhere to put a peg on his feet. So that's a
problem. But see, that's one of the reasons I
like this new one. This new one is based off
the episode from season one where he goes to,
he goes back to Kalish in order to repair himself.
So it's got a few swappable battle damage. parts
on it. It's got a swappable helmet with some
battle damage and it's got swappable forearms
so that you can give him forearms where the hands
are cut off. Right. You know like a Jedi caught
off his hand it's all chart and stuff at the
end and he doesn't have split he doesn't have
alternate arms like some of the other ones have
where he's got four arms he's only got two but
he comes with a couple of lightsabers. And there's
a few things I want to really rave about this
guy. The first one is the fact that it's a completely
new mold, and they completely redid it, including
the legs, such that you can actually get poses
out of his legs now. His legs, they've still
got the same rotation at the hip, the same hip
joint, but they've also gone and not only did
they add a knee joint to him, but they also added
an ankle joint to him. And, you know, he's got
the type of reverse... reverse legs where you
have the really long ankle if you know what I
mean yeah you know like you have on animals on
about a lot of animals and stuff those types
legs so having a posable ankle means that he
can suddenly you can actually get him in poses
with a posable knee and ankle very good he holds
them really well and I mean really Dakota grass
which really impressed me once I started taking
a look at the stand is All the stands have a
couple of slots on the side now grievous now
grievous He's got the really wide feet the feet
are rubbery plastic, but he's gotten nowhere
to peg holes But there's these two slots here
which conveniently enough the feet can actually
fit into So he can you can actually use the stands
with grievous so he can actually hold his poses
That's good. Yeah, I know I got that and was
like And my reaction was, holy crap, I have a
grievous I can actually stand up. That's good.
Yes, yes, a very, very good improvement to that
figure. The only real complaint I have about
the figure other than I love the sculpt, sculpt
really well other than this is just that his
shoulder pads. where are not pegged on very hard
I mean that helps for the whole battle damage
look because then you can pull them off and have
no shoulder armor on his arms but they come off
far too easily in my opinion yeah aside from
that though the new Grievous is great you can
get him some good poses and he's got the swappable
parts which means that he's I'm sure he I mean
kids are gonna lose stuff obviously but I mean,
you can't really avoid that, quite seriously.
Even I lose missiles and stuff from time to time,
and I'm in my early 20s. He's still a really
good figure, though, and he's nice and poseable
as well. And it's a vast improvement over the
original Grievous that they released in the line.
I'm sure it's good for Star Wars collectors.
Yes, I'm not a heavy Star Wars collector. I usually
just go and go Oh this figure is awesome, and
I like this character, so I should get this one
Yeah, how I go like I mean once the I saw an
episode of ploners with these assassin droids
in it And they were really awesome like the same
marketing They're using to sell these toys to
kids worked on me and that it was like holy crap
These are awesome, and then the toys are really
posable as well. I want to get some of these
They were on I think they were on sale at the
time so I got a couple and I've still got one
in box I don't really think so I mean I can just
briefly touch on some of the trend just a lot
of the transformers I've gotten recently just
in terms of the fact that I've got these now,
but as opposed to not really talking about them
But I mean I recently got sea spray from the
hunt for the Decepticons the bomb shock of power
quick combiner set legends ravage and Mass I
got my masterpiece Grimlock the battle the cyber
ops bumblebee the giant leader there human alliance
jazz the Animated the Japanese animated legends
elite guard prowl Like it's a white. It's a more
g1 colors repaint of prowl yeah it's a hundred
and something dollars no that's the deluxe i
got the legends oh okay i got the legends cheap
off of uh someone here in calgary and uh i got
i guess the big kuda grasses i finally got myself
a masterpiece prime there you go that works the
first hasbro version If I ever get Masterpiece
Prime, I'm getting MP04. It's all -in -one, it's
the cab, it's the trailer, it's everything. My
issue is that I had no interest in the trailer
simply because of the fact that... You have G3,
don't you? Yeah, I have the G3 trailer, but that
doesn't really go with the Masterpiece, though.
It's too small for that, but... I mean, I had
no interest, less because I have the G3 and more
because I have the G3, I have Galaxy Force Prime,
I have RAD Prime, I have, what is it, I've got
the City Commander and Powered Commander sets,
I've got RAD Scourge. Basically, in a nutshell,
I've got more trailers that I know what to do
with. So the last thing I need is another trailer.
Yeah, but I mean, still, just in terms of me,
it's like... Why spend however much on a Hasbro
version? Whatever it's gonna cost for the masterpiece
and then have to spend more money on a trailer
for it when I Can just get the mp04? Yeah, you
know whatever threats, you know, I think it's
I think it's $200. Yeah, it is So that's fair.
I mean I paid 90 from mine. So it was a matter
of well I don't really want the trailer. So the
pain the $200 isn't really worth it for me With
Rodimus, that's a bit of a different story. I'll
pay for it. Well, the trailer comes with him,
doesn't it? I think. With Rodimus, yeah, it does.
Yeah, so I mean, that, you know, they're doing
that good, at least. So that works. All right,
well, I think we're going to close this one out.
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