Transformers Toy Lines and Collection Organization

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welcome to the 60th episode of toy cast sponsored

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2290 percent over one on over 1 ,000 items I'm

your host if you and Mike and joining me is Peek

on court Michael. Hello Hey, how's it going?

It's going. How are you? I'm so sick. Oh, yes

sure. You're always sick. I Know it's these damn

kids. You're always sick literally and figuratively

On so many levels, so wrong. Yes, yes, yes. Well,

not only is this the 60th episode, this episode

will actually air June 2nd, 1973. Oh wait, no,

I mean 2010. 73 was when I was born. Exactly.

37 years ago. So if I could call myself in 37

years ago and say, guess how many toys you're

going to have? I would totally sure. Yes, so

happy birthday to you, sir. Thank you very much.

I'm pretty sure that there won't be any, you

know, 37 in a row jokes. That's right. Try not

to suck any dick on your way to Toys R Us. No

promises. Wow. of the Twizzlers exclusives available

now. Yeah, well, you lucky fucking bastard. I

told you, they're making more. Yeah, still. You

just gotta go look. Yeah, right. Every time I've

been there three times to the one over by, well,

you don't really care because you don't know

the area, but over by Oxmore Mall, and they had

Every single animated toy except for the Ratchet

and the RC. Ratchet I don't care about. I can

give a shit less about Ratchet. But they had

every Voyager. They had all three leaders. They

had the fucking Supreme Prime. They had about,

I would say about 20 of each deluxe figure. Just

randomly, you know shelved on the on the on the

pegs, you know, like where was this toys are

us Really? Yeah, of course. This was like back

at Christmas time. So I've been there but but

I mean This wasn't recently but I'm just saying

in general when I went there It was after they

were lost. Yeah, they were fully stocked When

I went there after Christmas, they were still

fully stocked with every animated toy except

for RC. You see, I went to Sears just recently

and didn't even know they had a toy section.

They've got one way in the back, kind of behind

kids clothes and mattresses. They had all of

the... animated toys. Oh really? It was ridiculous.

They had primes and megatrons and everything

and stuff that I would have expected to have

been scooped up and gone long ago and they still

had them. I mean right now you'd think they'd

pack them all up and chip them off the big lots.

Yeah really. But they were still out there jamming

the shelves. You know it's funny you mentioned

the big lots thing. Some of these big lots and

some of the pharmacy stores like Rite Aid and

CVS and Walgreens, they surprise me. Walgreens

especially. I went into Walgreens and I just

was looking randomly to see what they had. They

had four, and this is a couple of months ago,

but they had four deluxe sound waves and they

had like six deluxe oil slicks. Have you seen

the War for Cybertron news? Yeah, you mentioned

Sears earlier. Transformers War for Cybertron,

Kmart and Sears exclusive content. We all know

that the pre -order for Transformers War for

Cybertron from certain stores will receive some

sort of bonus material. Usually almost all the

stores give away a bonus character. Shockwave,

Demolisher, Jazz, etc., which you can only play

in the online multiplayer mode. But, if you order

the game from Kmart or from Sears, you will get

a collectible comic book. There is no confirmation

what this comic book might be, but one could

assume that the comic book will most likely be

the Transformers War for Cybertron tie -in comic

book. So, that's kind of interesting. probably

with a different cover somewhere else. So it's

great. I got a free comic book. Whereas otherwise

you could be playing in the game as jazz. Yeah,

but you can only use it in the online multiplayer.

You can't use it for the single player. So that

still sucks. You'd be surprised how much you'll

enjoy the online multiplayer. Oh, and I'm not

saying that I wouldn't at all. I'm not saying

that. I'm saying that I don't think that it should

just be online multiplayer. I think that instead

of just having Optimus, Bumblebee, and Ratchet

as your three or a character you create as your

three story players, you should be able to have

the unlockables or the exclusives as regular

in -game characters. Well, there's got to be

some type of promotional items involved. Like

I don't know all right. I'm not I'm not saying

there shouldn't be promotional items. I'm saying

the promotional items Should be available for

all game modes not just online multiplayer. That's

my argument. I'm not saying there shouldn't be

the The exclusives Well, I think the argument

there is they probably could be but then that

would screw up the single -player game Like I

just got done playing Bioshock 2 and there's

a single -player game attached to that, it's

really pretty good. But it kind of requires you

to play as the Big Daddy Delta. Now, if they

were to throw in, hey, you can play single player

as Barnaby the baseball player. OK, great. That

kind of fucks up the whole single player game,

because now you're not Delta. The whole point

of the first player game is your delta, and you

have to make it to the end to find your little

sister, who's actually your daughter, but is

actually your little sister, which is kind of

confusing, unless you understand the back story.

But when you play multiplayer, multiplayer has

nothing to do with a single player game. You

can play as several different characters, each

one with different abilities and different sound.

You know taunts when you run around you're like

ha ha ha I killed you you know they sound different

when they say that and say different things and

You know it would be neat to be able to play

jazz especially if they brought somebody in who

could do a nice scatman crothers impersonation

You know versus optimus prime was gonna sound

like Peter Cullen So I mean yeah, I think if

they do it right it would be really really cool

to play as jazz now Depending on who you'd rather

play was jazz or demolisher or shockwave, you

know, whichever one's your favorite character

You can then go and pre -order from whatever

store that is, right? I think that You know,

once you play the single player game, which is

going to rock, period, right? You know, you're

going to get a chance to play as Optimus. You're

going to get a chance to play as Bumblebee. And

there might be a few levels with Megatron and

probably a few levels with Starscream. And you

get to fly a little and you get to play as a

tank or you get to play as a car. You just run

the gamut in the single player game. But then

when you hit multiplayer, completely different

game. completely different experience, and people

who like multiplayer, some people don't like

them, but the people who do are really gonna

get a kick out of it, and they're really gonna

be happy that they went to a particular place

like GameStop, because they get to play Shockwave,

which may be one of their favorite characters.

I think that I would feel cheated if I logged

into the multiplayer, after playing the hell

out of the first player, but if I logged into

the multiplayer and saw all these people, playing

as blue and green and silver colored shockwaves.

And I'm like, well, I'd like to play a shockwave,

but I'm like out of this stupid fucking comic

book. What's this gonna do for me? Right, but

I mean, and I understand that, but the way that

they're touting this game, especially the single

player mode, is that they are, you know, they're

touting it as, you're always gonna have three

characters, but you're going to be able to play

as three, you know, you can rotate the characters

out. So, a lot of the other characters that they've

announced like Grimlock and, oh god, what was

the other one? There was a whole bunch of other

ones. So are those, are you going to be able

to play as, say, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Grimlock

instead of Ratchet? That's my only complaint

about the single player is that, you know, you

can only play as those three characters. As far

as from what I've seen now if I'm wrong, okay

fine I you know, I'll fully admit that but just

from all the videos and everything else I've

seen the single player the only three characters

you're gonna be playing as unless you create

one of your own is Optimus, Ratchet, and Mobileby

while Optimus and Mobileby are cool and all,

you know Well, remember that's for just the Autobot

campaign Right Well, that's what I'm saying though,

but I mean, you know just Regardless of the Decepticon

campaign as well, you know, I don't know what

three characters are gonna, you know, Megatron,

Starscream, and Soundwave, or Megatron, Starscream,

and Skywarp. The same thing applies. Are you

going to be able to, you know, they're saying

they're adding all these characters into the

game, like Grimlock, and oh, what was the other

one? Was Silverbolt one of them? I don't know,

they've announced a whole barricade, they've

announced a whole bunch of other characters that

are going to be in the game. Now my question

is, are they going to be playable in the single

player? That's a good question, I'm not sure.

I don't know either. Most likely not in the single

player, but again, they have you play as certain

characters in the single player in order to...

round out the gameplay. You don't want to have

a level where you're supposed to play as Bumblebee

and rely on stealth and speed and then say, oh,

I think I'd rather play as Motor Master because

I can. Well, there goes your stealth and speed.

Why bother? There's probably a lot, most definitely,

a lot of thought and planning. that goes into

these single -player levels. And I'm not denying

that. I'm just saying that for someone who isn't,

for me, for someone who doesn't really do online

multiplayer, you know, I would like more options.

That's understandable. But, you know, like I

said, you may not think you'll like it, but...

Once you try it, it's like, oh my god, I'm going

to play this nonstop for six months. I felt the

same way the first time I played Diablo. And

it's like, well, what is this whole thing about

logging in and playing with other people? And

then you do it, and you do it again, and you

do it again, and you don't stop. And it's 4 o

'clock in the morning, and you're like, where

am I at? Where am I doing? Where's my food? I

don't care because I'm playing Diablo at 4 o

'clock in the morning with people that I don't

know. And never will but it doesn't matter because

I'm playing Diablo till four o 'clock in the

morning You know and yeah, you will go there.

Trust me. I linked you to a couple of things

Regardless of what what the Kmart Sears? Exclusive

comic tie -in is or whatever if it's the if it's

the history book that I linked you I'll be buying

that book regardless. I mean I kids Honestly,

I'm not going to be buying War for Cybertron

when it first comes out because I don't have

the power on my computer and I don't have a system

that it supports. But I do want to get the book.

I think that's going to be really awesome and

I love that cover. That cover is cool as hell.

Yeah, I might order a copy of the AllSpark Almanac

Volume 2 along with that. I'm definitely doing

that no matter what as soon as next week rolls

around and I get the rest of my money. Um, I

also linked you to device labor labeled cheetahs,

which I don't care. I'm calling it cheetor. Cheetor?

I think it was cheetahs. I don't know how you

pronounce it. Well, no, I mean, they're calling

it cheetahs. Yeah, cheetahs, yeah. Yeah, I've

seen it as cheetahs, but I believe that they

called him cheetahs. Yeah. With an A. Hey, I

could be wrong. I don't know. It's basically

a repaint of, uh, of the Ravage and the Tigatron

USB that the car has done. It looks good. My

only complaint is, and I think a lot of people

have had this complaint since these images have

surfaced, there's an Autobot symbol and not a

Maximal symbol. Oh, yeah, I see that now. Yeah.

BBTS does have it in stock already. Uh, for,

I believe... In stock? Yeah. Not pre -ordered?

Let me, let me... Because, you know, I could've

swore that we've seen these pictures... Oh! Oh,

I'm sorry. I was gonna say, I could've swore

we've seen these pictures before. That they had

the black one, the white one, and then the yellow

one. But, uh, no, it is Cheetahs, right there

on the label, Cheetahs. Two gigabyte this time,

as opposed to the one gigabyte. That's kinda

nice. Yeah. I carry around an 8 gigabyte with

me that I bought for 10 bucks. So I'm not sure

if 2 gigabytes for 40 bucks is really worth it.

Well, I mean, honestly, you're buying it for...

The transformational value? Well, the character

plus the computer, not really the storage, but

the computer value of whatever special thing

in the jig it has when it connects to your computer.

On BBTS it's listed at $42 .99. Yeah, but you

know, they've got these on eBay now that are

knockoffs. I hate people that do fucking knockoffs.

They look the exact same. There's a big difference

between a knockoff and a custom. Everybody knows

that. But I am so sick of fucking knockoffs.

I've never liked them. If I want a character

that I like, say... Soundwave or whatever. Ravage,

whatever. I'm going to buy whatever official

release toy of that character. I'm not going

to buy a knock -off. Now if it's a custom, that

would be somewhat different. I understand. I'm

just saying. They're available. I'm not saying

run out and buy one. I'm just saying I've seen

them. Yeah, I just don't If Hopefully and I seriously

doubt this is gonna happen But hopefully BBTS

isn't sold out of these by August because I would

love to get one. I just can't do it at the moment

I missed out on Ravage and Ravage is still sold

out on BBTS I like these from a novelty standpoint.

I'm not gonna buy any If I go to BotCon and they're

like, hey, buy one of these. They're half off.

I'll be like, sure, why not? But I'm not going

to go out of my way to spend 40 bucks for something

I'm not really going to use. Because I don't

really see it as a little cheetor. I see it as

a memory stick. Yeah, true. I like memory sticks.

I use them all the time. But I'm not going to

spend that much money on one gigabyte stick.

Well, it's two for this one, I think, like you

said. Yeah, but I mean, you put it in your pocket,

you take it out of your pocket, you shuffle it

around from place to place. Within about a month,

all the spots are going to be rubbed off. You're

going to be like, shit, I paid 50 bucks for this.

With shipping, why do they bother? So no, I don't

see the point. Yeah, I don't know. Drink. Huh?

Drink? Take a drink. Mike doesn't know. Take

a shot. We should have been taking shots every

time you were wheezing and hacking on Beast Unleashed

episode 12. What? No, I had a very judicious

use of mute. I don't think anybody noticed me

wheeze and hack. I'm still a wreck. Every five

seconds you probably won't hear it, but when

I hit mute it's because I'm hacking up a lung

over here. I'm just not very well right now.

Now that you know, because... Jewish is Jewish.

Yeah, yeah. So, for episode 60, we're gonna do

things a little bit differently. We're not actually

gonna be talking about individual toys. Because,

frankly, all I have left to talk about is Mighty

Mugs, and I know Michael hates Mighty Mugs. You

still have a couple that I sent you. Huh? That

you haven't covered yet. What the... The broken

down ones? Yeah. You didn't cover Rhinox. I think

he was complete, wasn't he? I don't know. He's

in a box in the other room. I don't know. I'll

have to go look. Oh, you know. Granted, there's

a couple in there. Yeah. So instead of us each

doing a toy, we're each going to talk about some

Transformers toy lines. And it's probably going

to be all over the place. I know Michael is going

to mainly focus on on the Cybertron toyline.

I don't know what I'm going to focus on. I'll

probably be all over the place like usual. But

yeah, so that's what we're going to do. And I

think we will do it after this. We are back,

and it is time for the general discussion here

on Toycast. Now normally, we would do topical

discussions over on All Things Transformers.

But because this is the 60th episode and it's

not really a super milestone, but this show's

been running, what, almost a year? Nice. No,

we've been running for 60 episodes, not including

the special episodes like the ROTF discussion

that was done with Proto Man and Optimus Scourge

and a bunch of other people way back when. um...

and not including some of the other like many

specials like the tf a rudder miss special that

brought a man and i did with techno but yeah

this is the sixtieth episode and i'm breaking

the rules i don't care it's my show piss off

uh... so you had mentioned uh... off air that

you're kind of you're going to do just one toy

you're just is your you're having your quote

-unquote opening day uh... It's become more of

an opening week. Opening month. I had a lot of

toys. You've seen pictures of my closet. Yeah.

I'm always referring to the closet. And the closet

is just jam -packed. And the reason for that

is because I never opened my Cybertron toys.

And there's a goodly chunk of the Energon toys,

mostly the Voyager and Whatever size class is

bigger than that, between that and leader. So

the bigger boxes, I didn't open. I just didn't

really see the need to. And I just stacked them

up in the closet. Like, I've got Energon Landquake.

Didn't like Landquake. And then the repaint of

Landquake, which I forget the name, offhand.

Didn't open him. Six shot. Didn't bother to open

him the those helicopters Didn't like those at

all didn't bother to open them You know in a

fact. I probably wouldn't have bought them at

all If it wasn't for oh god. What was the name

of that toy star that went out of business? KB

yeah KB had them all on sale for like half off

And I walked in and I'm like holy crap look at

all these and I bought one of each So I mean

I've got all of these And I think I've got like

two Scorponok's, in fact. Yeah, so I've got all

of these. And I didn't want to open them because

I honestly don't like the Energon toys. And didn't

really feel like wasting my shelf space with

them. So I just put them all up in the closet.

The difference here with the Cybertron toys is

that... I like the Cybertron line. I dig it.

The problem was is that I felt that I couldn't

open my Cybertron toys because I hadn't opened

the Energon toys yet. As soon as I get the Energon

toys open and on the shelves, I'll go ahead and

open the Cybertron toys and put those on the

shelves. And it just never happened. And so I

ended up with this pile. And the pile got bigger.

And it's kind of like the pile I have now, except

the pile I have now is all movie toys and universe

toys. But these were in the way. And I put them

all nicely in the closet, stacked them all up.

That was about the time when I finally installed

the shelves in the closet. So it wasn't just

a big pile. Now it's organized piles. Right.

basically decided that I needed to get the existing

pile of movie toys into the closet. And the only

way to do that is to get, you know, this energon

and the Cybertron toys out and put them on the

shelves. So I've been making an effort to, you

know, make room in my oak cabinets. I moved all

of my Beast Wars toys down to two shelves. I've

moved all of my Beast Machines toys on the one

shelf. And that includes the Dinobots that came

out at that time. I moved some stuff around.

I've got all of my movie toys on one shelf. I've

got all of my animated toys on one shelf. I actually

had two shelves, or two spaces, I should say,

that I kept my Fort Max in. And my taller ones,

like Supreme Cheetor. And I pulled Fort Max out

and put another shelf in there. bought myself

some space there so now I've I find myself with

three shelves that are empty that are empty yeah

I can display stuff again so uh you know I decided

I'd put out some energon stuff I put out some

Cybertron stuff and see what happened as I got

into the closet I'm finding I've got a lot of

Cybertron stuff that I never opened and this

isn't just the bigger ones, right, like the Scourge

or like the Leader Class Megatron or Leader Class

Metroplex. These are small ones. I had like,

I don't want to say 20, but I had more than a

dozen Scouts that hadn't been opened. I had more

than a dozen Deluxes that hadn't been opened.

and then there was the bigger ones. I have a

whole cabinet. Let's say this is literally two

feet deep by about two and a half feet wide and

probably about a foot and a half tall of cabinet

space on the shelf that I can fill up with as

many as I want. So I'm just opening these all

up as many as I can. Number one, get them out

of the closet. Number two, fill up the shelf

space. So I'm opening them all up, and I'm opening

up a bunch of stuff. Stuff from the animated

line. I already had lockdown. So why do I need

a blazing lockdown? Why do I need the other lockdown

repaint? Put one of each up there and call it

a day. Well, you know, they're in the pile. So

at this point, I'm unwrapping them. The jazz

repaint, I put him up there. The sound wave,

electrostatic sound wave repaint, put him up

there. RC, put RC up there. Exactly. You'll get

one someday, trust me. Yeah, so I mean some of

the some of the older our robots in the sky our

ID and I Opened up some of those and I was keeping

those on mint on card just you know for the hell

of it But to be honest, they're taking up space

in the closet and I've got the Japanese versions

that are still minted box. So Yeah, I'm gonna

go ahead and open those. So I open those and

put those on my RID shelf and You know I'm opening

a lot of toys basically a lot of movie toys to

some of the earlier movie toys from the 2007

line That I bought and didn't bother to open.

I just put him in the closet but to digress Cybertron

I had pretty much the entire Cybertron line and

I had only opened You know this the the deluxes

that I was really interested in You know, like

some of the deluxes that were going to be repainted

as BotCon exclusives the year before. Open those

up. Open up the ones that were repaints from

earlier lines, like Buzzsaw, who was in Long

Rack. You know which which I thought was really

cool that they would take these Japanese figures

and repaint them and into the into uh Which were

essentially armada molds and then retool them

with cyber planet keys So I dug that idea and

I dug that they were repaints. So I open those

I open up a bunch of the minicons some of the

scouts, you know again the ones that were repaints

and a couple of the larger toys, like Quick Mix

and Metasaur, just to fill out the shelf. So

I had taller toys in the back. But other than

that, I didn't open a lot of them. The vast majority

of the Cybertron line was still sitting in the

closet. And I had forgotten it existed because

I had piled shit up in front of it. So now I'm

cleaning out the closet and I'm pulling down,

you know, like the big boxes, like I've got a

Minton box Unicron with this one I kept in the

box because it had little minicon bonuses attached

to the top of the box. I've got the Death Star,

you know, that transforms into a Darth Vader.

God. This box is huge. I got a bunch of the BotCon

box sets all stacked up in there. And they're

literally stacked up on top of each other because

there's no more room on the shelves. And what

are they stacked up in front of? Well, they're

stacked in front of dozens of Cybertron toys

that are still sitting in their plastic after

how many years? Four years since the end of that

line. So now, yeah, I'm opening them up. I'm

getting a chance for the first time to really

open these up and play with them and See just

how cool they are No, you know, I mean I liked

the armada line Mainly for the the the mini cons

Really? Well, I know you don't like many kinds.

I like many cuts. I think they're cool I think

they have a good play value. In fact, I think

we talked about this just recently and I forget

It might have been the last Toycast I was in.

57 probably. Yeah, but we talked about the minicons

and the fact that they're well designed. It's

literally an extra figure packed with every figure.

I'm sure that they're hard to deal with because

if they weren't, they wouldn't have gotten rid

of them in lieu of Cyber Planet keys. But I liked

those. robots in Armada were detrimented due

to their minicons. They may not have had as cool

a gimmick, or they may not have had as many paint

apps, or they may not have had as many bendable

joints, let's say, or as much articulation. Because

let's face it, you've got another figure you

have to pack in that box at a certain price point.

But so, minicons were cool. For the most part,

with the exception of Scudor, or whatever the

hell his name was, and a couple of other ones.

These were pretty good. But then you end up with

Energon, and you think, hey, we're going to get

more of the same. We're going to get more minicons.

And Energon was just clusterfucked, because they,

and again, I think we discussed this before.

you know the fingers just weren't as nice and

you end up with like iron hide whose face is

clearly visible in vehicle mode and You know,

hey, I don't care if you could take one iron

hide and combine it with jetfire or You know

if you've got energon iron hide who's a different

color scheme and you combine them with himself

in his original color scheme You know great.

I'm glad they combined. I'm glad you have that

extra gimmick there. That's interesting but That

doesn't mean that you're going to get a pass

on having a shit toy. Why can't I see his face

in vehicle mode? You can't turn his face around?

And there was a lot of that. And there were some

interesting homages, like the shock blast was

a G1 shockwave homage. And there was a Grimlock

and Swoop combiner that was kind of neat. And

then there was all of the gestalts. And again,

I love gestalts, but they really drop the ball

here. I mean, these guys don't have hands or

feet. And when a garage has to make a kit to

replace your hands and feet, and your missiles

and your guns, because you can't be bothered

to put them in there, that's a problem. They're

still making repaints of those damn things, with

bad hands and feet. What are you gonna do? You

know, I mean, it was a nice set. I like the gestalt

in general, but, jeez -o -peets, come on, people.

You know, and then you've got Cybertron, the

third of the Unicron trilogy shows. And after

Energon, I just didn't want to watch anymore.

I'm like, oh my god, this is gonna suck. Armada,

the cartoon, was like, I'm rad. And it's like,

oh fuck, turn this shit off. And, you know, let

me tell you about Transformers. No, let me tell

you about how I turned the channel. And then

you got Energon, which was, you know, kick -ah!

Oh my God, did that show suck. That's the...

Oh, I can't even begin. You know, I didn't want

to watch it at all. Especially, you know, you

get invested in it because you're thinking, I

want all the toys. I should, you know, at least...

If I'm emotionally invested in the cartoon, I'm

going to want to buy more toys. I just couldn't

understand the cartoon. It was so bad and it

was so Japanese in the sense that it's like Power

Rangers. I'm getting my ass handed to me by the

bad guy. Instead of formulating a new strategy

or getting better teammates or devising new plans

or working better with my fellows, why don't

we get an upgrade? Time after time after time

optimus prime gets his ass handed to him and

this time I'm gonna combine with I Don't know

the jet jet fire this time. I'm gonna combine

with Ultra Magnus Ultra Magnus did he combine

them? No ultra Magnus was robots in disguise,

wasn't it? I don't know. I know I know there's

one show where the two of them combined I don't

know which it was that was robots in disguise,

and that was cool. Yeah God, or Omega Prime,

God Prime, God Omega, whatever he was. He was

cool, but I mean, Optimus Prime, he started off

with like Fatimus Prime, and he's just a little

fat prime. And then, oh, I'm gonna combine with

my own trailer, and then I'll be able to defeat

Megatron. And then Megatron gets an upgrade.

Well now I'm gonna combine with, I don't know

who the hell he combined, he combines with Wingblade,

and now he's got wings. Oh, now I can defeat

Megatron. And then Megatron gets another upgrade.

Now he's Galvatron. Well, I need to defeat Galvatron.

So now I'm going to combine with Omega Supreme,

which was awful. You got this big -ass Omega

Supreme, little tiny Optimus Prime head sticking

out the top. It was just so ill -conceived. It

was just bad. And it's like, you know what? How

about you train your soldiers better? How about

you learn new strategies? How about, you know,

we do something. We weaken the enemy somehow.

Why does every confrontation have to end with

you powering up with another upgrade? It was

disgusting. The fact that he got his ass whipped

every time was disgusting. It's like, this is

Optimus Prime. This is one shall stand, one shall

fall. He fell every day. He couldn't watch it.

So no, I mean, that's... Yeah, anyway, so Cybertron

comes out. It's got a huge hurdle, just to prove

that it's not as bad as Energon. And what they

did was brilliant, because in the past, you end

up with Transformers shows about Earth vehicles

or Transformers shows about Cybertronian vehicles,

which is basically what you ended up with in

G1 Season 3, right? You end up with, you know,

Transformers with beast modes. You know, how

do you reconcile all of these? What do you do?

Well, and this is genius. You defeat Unicron

in Energon, right? And then, actually I think

they defeated him in Armada with the minicons,

which was cool. That was kind of epic with the

green Unicron. But... Regardless, Unicron's dead.

His death has brought about this giant black

hole that's going to kill everything. So what

they have to do is visit each of these different

planets with different types of transformers

on them in order to find these pieces of this

Omega lock that will help that will bring about

something. They're not sure what it is, but will

bring about something to close this unicorn singularity.

And the first planet is the speed planet, which

is all about Cybertronian modes. And in the Japanese

version, each planet had its own prime, which

was really cool for me. But they didn't do that

in the US version. They kept it different. In

fact, the prime on the speed planet ends up being

a woman. in the US version. Which is kind of

neat, you know, I mean maybe he was really effeminate

in the Japanese version, I don't know. But yeah,

Speed Prime or Speed Convoy was a guy in the

Japanese version. But yeah, Stroka Genius making

him a woman in the US version because he's actually

got heels. It's kind of strange. But yeah, so...

You have this whole planet full of Cybertronian

-mode vehicles. They spent way too much time

there, like 13 episodes, so it's straight, just

racing, because that's all they do on the speed

planet is race. And then they go to the beast

planet, where they find beasts. Holy shit. And

from there, they spend time there, too, trying

to locate that piece of the Omega Lock. And then

they go to the giant planet. which has nothing

but great, big -ass transformers, which is where

they meet Metroplex and Menasaur. And they're

huge. I mean, they're just huge. And their minicons

are, I want to say, roughly the size of regular

transformers, because they're huge, too. Something

along those lines, I forget. But here we have

minicons again. Where did minicons come from?

Well, minicons had their own planet, but then

they came to live on the giant planet. It works

everything in. Your beast modes, your Cybertronian

modes, your minicons, it makes them all very

cohesive together. And rather than having some

contrived idea like Unicron has opened up portals

into different realities and brought people through

to fight to the death, which was what the universe

was all about, which I thought was a very contrived,

very bad idea. Rather than doing something like

that, they went a completely different route

and explained why all these different Transformers

exist and how they can all come together peacefully.

They hit the bumpy patches and they have some

trouble, but by the end... Not only do they all

come together peacefully and learn to live, learn

to exist, even the bad guys in some cases, but

they also uncover Primus, which is what the Omega

Lock does. Once you get all the cyber planet

keys from the four planets together, they combine

in the Omega Lock, you plug the Omega Lock into

Cybertron and the damn thing transforms into

a giant transformer. How cool is that? You know,

I mean, it's just really epic in scale. And the

cartoon was awesome. And I did like the cartoon.

I watched it all the way through. And I think

it really saved, I don't want to say saved the

franchise, because I'm not one of those to say,

oh, they ruined everything. But god damn it,

Energon ruined everything. So basically what

you're saying is, Enter John ruined everything

just like Michael Bay continues to rape our childhoods

by becoming a producer on the new TMNT live -action

movie. You know, honestly, I think Michael Bay

can produce stuff and not destroy it. When he

starts directing, that's when you're having some

trouble there. All right, yeah, so no, I mean

I was wrapping up in that sense, but you know

the idea that you've got oh You know I didn't

even get into the last planet the giant planet

only had like three or four figures Because they

were just damn big right But it would have been

cool to see more the same thing with planet X.

They didn't even give it a name It's just planet

X and that that's where sound wave comes from

and sideways who is kind of a crappy character

they could have gotten rid of and They tied in

a unicorn tank on Planet X as well. I don't think

he showed up in the cartoon though But the unicorn

tank he's been sitting on my desk here for a

little while. I'm gonna talk about him for a

minute He's just so damn cool. I mean he looks

like you took a unicorn And you kind of flatten

them out and gave him tank turrets and wheels.

I mean, he's got little, you know, pincers in

the front. He's got like, I don't want to say

these are guns because they kind of face inward,

but on top, they kind of an homage to the rings

that went around the planet that became kind

of like wings type thing. Right. Just kind of

got these wing homage things on top of his tank.

And he's got a turret that can move and go up

and down. And he's got secret guns that pop out

when you push a cyber planet key into him. And

he looks like Unicron. He's got a lot of neat

little Unicron homages here. But he's a tank.

I didn't think I would dig him at first. But

now that I've got him out and I'm looking at

him, I dig him. A couple other toys that came

out with the Cybertron line were Beast Mode Megatron

and Beast Mode Optimus Prime, which are direct

homages to Beast Wars. I mean, they look cool.

They're really neat. When you said earlier about

Planet X, the first thing I thought of, wait,

maybe Protoform X was exiled there. Oh, I thought

you were going to say the porn. No. It's a porn

planet. No, Protoform X. Oh, jeez. Of course.

That explains so much in fact Yeah, so anyway

Here so here I am opening all these toys and

basically transforming them into their into their

robot mode so that I can display them and You

know a lot of these toys. They just have a They

carved a lot of personality into their faces.

You know, some of them have beards and mustaches

and things like that. The little smirk, you know,

like is common on the star streams now. So it's

just kind of neat. I like, I dig Scourge. He's

a three -headed dragon. And he makes noise. And

he transforms. Wait, wait for it. Wait, wait.

Oh, yeah. I mean there's a lot of really good

toys in this line. Overall the only thing I don't

like is the cyber planet keys because a lot of

times they don't have anywhere to stow away.

Once you plug them in where they go and they

unlock their gimmick Well, that's great, but

if you want to push the gimmick back into place,

you really can't. Like, I've got Hotshot here,

and if you push his Cyber Planet key in, the

little wings pop out the sides. And you've mentioned

this before with your Bicon exclusive guy. Yeah,

Goldbug, I have him right here. Actually, the

whole time we were recording part of this, when

you were talking about when you started talking

about Cyberon, I went over to my shelf and I

took off almost, let's see, one, two, three,

four, five, six, seven, eight. I took off nine

toys, and they're all from different lines. Like

I've got the Bot Conronimus, which is also a

classics mold, Universe Cyclonus, Animated Elite

Guard Bumblebee, G1 Prime, I took off both my

Shattered Glass and Nemesis Prime. They clearly

are the same mold, but they're two different

characters. I had Mighty Mugs Shockwave on top

of the computer earlier. And I also took out

Juin Hot Rod and the Gold Bug. Because I've been

sitting here while you've been giving us a history

lesson on the poorest cartoons in the fandom.

I didn't, I'm not, I haven't transformed either

Gold Bug or Hot Rod yet, but I probably will

do that in the midst of us talking about all

this stuff, but I pulled out their feet and they're

still in car mode, but it's the exact same freaking

thing. Now I know the BotCon Gold Bug, the mold

comes from Exileon or Exileron or whatever the

hell it was from Cybertron. Don't get me wrong,

but you know, you were just talking about the

gimmicks with the, with the Cyber Planet keys.

And I'm thinking when I bought my BotCon set,

Off eBay like a year a year and a half two years

ago, whatever it was It came with all these these

Autobot Little mini things that look like keys

and I died I wasn't into collecting the cyber

planet keys came out so I'm like wait What the

hell is this for? What the hell is this for?

And then I look on the back of gold bug and I'm

thinking oh Well, actually I looked on the back

of him and I saw that there was something inside

of him uh... underneath his mini spoiler i guess

you can say right at the back by his feet all

right this week uh... come together yeah i saw

this one like we put thing in slot i know that

sounds bad but and all of a sudden i get to blue

wings and i'm like sweet okay and uh... uh...

i'm up to next next i really this is fucking

hot rod in a Cybertron mold with Gold Bug or

Bumblebee or whatever the hell you want to call

it, colors. And as I, when I first transformed

him, I'm thinking back to G1 Hot Rod. This is

the exact same fucking transformation as G1 Hot

Rod. Well in Cybertron he had a Hot Rod repaint.

Right. He was red with the gold flames. Right,

right. And the blue windshield. But, but then

I wasn't... I wasn't into it then. I just started

collecting in 2008. I had some G1 toys when I

was a kid, but I more had He -Man toys and Voltron.

I had the original 1989 Batmobile toy. I had

a whole bunch of Mast toys, Thundercats. Even

though I loved the cartoon, I don't remember

having a whole hell of a lot of Transformers.

So, when I started collecting in 2008, and I

started finding all this stuff, and I'm like,

oh, cool. So, yeah, it's just amazing. But the

thing that, well, to digress, the problem I have

is that once you're done with Exilion's wings

popped out, or, you know, Hotshot, or whoever

he is, once you want to put his wings away, you

have to pull the cyber -planet key out, or else

it won't lock. And what do you do with this key?

I don't know. What am I going to do with the

keys? I don't want to toss it in a drawer or

put it in a Tupperware bin or a tackle box or

what have you, because then I won't know who

it goes to. Going fishing with transformers.

Yeah, exactly. Well, no, I've got a tackle box

with just parts in it, a couple of them. But

they're all labeled, you know, I know that these

parts go to iron hide and these because the the

g1 toys They had all these parts that you didn't

want to lose But you know, I'm not gonna have

a tackle box with one planet key for each Little

hole that says, you know, this one goes to nitro

convoy and this one goes to you know, Hytale

or whoever You know and they don't really have

a place to store away So what I end up with is

a bunch of guys with sire planet keys Stuck in

them with with their gimmicks deployed. That's

really all I can do So that's a shame. It would

have been nice if they could have fit like another

little place where you could you know stick the

key Yeah But that's really my only complaint.

I mean, I like the toys Like I said, they have

they have a lot of personality on their own all

of them have a lot of really good Details molded

directly into them They they had a very nice

use of translucent plastic at this point. It

wasn't like gratuitous, but they they use it

in good places and There's only a couple of them

that are just you know kind of crappy No, I don't

want to say crappy but like I forget the guy's

name here He's a hovercraft and how we never

got a sea spray repaint out of this guy. I don't

know but He's also the one that they transform

into a toilet I've seen pictures of him as a

toilet. But yeah, the deal is, though, he doesn't

have any arms. He's just kind of got these little

tentacle things flopping out in front of him

that I wasn't really thrilled with. Anyway, suffice

to say, overall, I dig the line. I'm really happy

that I'm getting a chance now to kind of open

these toys and play with them. I should have

done this long ago, to be honest. Yes, yes, you

should have. Yes, yes, I should have. But I'm

not done yet. I mean, I've probably got about

half of this shelf full. I've got another, oh,

a dozen. Yeah, probably a dozen here on my desk

that I got to put on the shelf too. And there's

probably enough room for maybe another dozen.

And there's probably, well, there's probably

another dozen in the closet that I haven't pulled

out yet just because I didn't know if I wanted

to open them. You know, there's some that's just

like, yeah, I really like this one. Maybe I'll

just keep him in the package. But yeah, by the

time I get the rest of these out in there, I

don't think I'm going to want to do that. Then

there was also a bunch of minicons that came

out for the Cybertron line. And you know, there

was a lot of really good minicons that came out

for Cybertron. I mean, in Energon, they were

kind of an afterthought. There were two, three

sets. But for the Cybertron line, they brought

the minicons back. They not only repainted the

older minicons, but they made new ones. They

made beast mode minicons. Little dragon minicons

and tiger minicons and all sorts of neat things.

Not as thrilled with them as the earlier minicons

like from Armada, but they're there. And I just

never bothered to open those either. And they

came in two packs. Versus packs and try to charge

you as much as a as a three pack. Yeah, it's

kind of pissed me off Well, you know pick them

up on clearance you buy them out And you're all

about the clearance rack. Yeah, exactly, you

know, so I got a bunch of the mini cons I don't

think I'm gonna unpackage the mini cons I'm looking

right now at a whole box of legends class toys

and this is like literally a an apple crate Full

of legends class toys that I'm not sure if I'm

gonna open I might the top few here are the Well,

technically they're Animated but they're labeled

universe and then there's the g1 homages like

cosmos and and Beachcomber Technically those,

you know should probably be classics, but they're

labeled universe So I'm torn. It's like, man,

should I open my minicons? I don't know. Because,

again, the ones that were all released as two

packs, they were, you know, they, like, it was

basically a set of three minicons versus a set

of three minicons. And they paired them all up

and put them two in a pack. So most likely, if

I open them, I'm just going to put them all together

in their original Armada sets. Mm -hmm, and and

then I'm not gonna know who went with who So

part of me is like who cares and part of me is

like no keep it in a box that way you'll know

So I'm not sure we'll see how much room I have

on the shelf left over and then I'll pick and

choose But I definitely want to fill up the shelf

And get as many toys out of the closet as I can

Once I do that. I'll rearrange the closet a little

bit kind of You know resort a little and then

try to get as many of these Movie exclusive toys

that I bought out of this pile put them away

So we'll see we'll see how it goes the only movie

toy now I I respect what they did with the leader

prime for the revenge of the fallen movie. It's

a it's a much better version than the original

2007 version. The only heavy toy I will ever

purchase and have ever purchased is Ravage. Ravage

is awesome. I didn't take him off the shelf because

usually when I move Ravage his legs go into weird

positions and I can't get him straight and back

up the way I want him to, so. But I just finished

transforming Hot Rod in Gold Bug, and it is the

exact same transformation. And it's just, it's

very awesome. Gold Bug, I don't know what it

is with this mold. I can get him into a weird

squatting pose. I actually haven't tried. Well,

I don't know if it's if it's the one that I have

or whatever I'm not really sure but he does bend

at the knees and I can almost get him to yeah

He looks like he's squatting and if you and his

his windshield Actually moves up. It's it's kind

of like the RC thing where she has a windshield

for an ass it's the same thing with gold bug

where I can actually have him on his feet, standing,

but he looks like he's crouching to take a shit.

It's Pat Lee, Goldbug. Yeah, I'm not too thrilled

by Revoltaic figures. No? Not anymore. No. I've

lost all interest in them. Because the Myrotomus...

First of all, he doesn't have a left hand I I

tried to interchange the hands and I got one

done the other one when I ripped it it when I

took tried to take it out it actually ripped

out and How was that? Yes, he is and when I tried

to take the left hand out it Pulled out, but

it only pulled out half of the thing and the

rest of it's still stuck in there. I can't get

out And Megatron, I can't get him to stand to

save my life without him having to do the splits

Strange I do you know I've talked about this

one before and I know I don't have the the actual

I want to get the the hen cave version in the

original US version of the classic stratum is

But I have the botcon version in a while I love

this. This is so awesome. You were mentioning

earlier about facial hair on Transformers. This

is easily the coolest facial hair Transformer

ever. Well, he had a whole new head, though.

Yeah, true. Well, the BotCon version did, yes.

And this is my first time owning this mold. As

I said, I don't have the original hot rod or...

Rodimus or whatever he's called for the classics

and in hand cave version, but I thought it was

really cool that they included his His razor

blade as an accessory kind of like the animated

bumblebee has the Spinning the stingers. Yeah.

Yeah This is extremely fucking cool. He's got

that pop out razor blade that he attacks giant

squids with. Yeah. And I don't have, because

I always have him in robot mode, I don't have

him with his left hand out. His left hand is

folded back in so it's just the razor blade.

Huh? Yeah. I really, really dig him. The car

mode is awesome as well. Especially on this guy.

One of my all time favorite G1 toys was Astrotrain.

because he is just so easy to transform. At least

for me, anyway. But just looking at all the different

ones, Cyclonus from the universe. Oh my god.

First time we've had a Cyclonus and god knows

how long. Oh, a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah,

that's true. A good one. I mean, there's been

Cyclonuses, but they haven't been very good G1

homages, I'd say. Yeah. And this one is, by far,

the best one. and his light piping is just eerie

on his eyes. I mean, I'm holding him up in front

of my light over here and they just glow red.

As far as the animated line goes, wasn't that

the first line that was actually produced here

in America? I mean, G1 was produced here, Beast

Wars was produced in Vancouver? Mm -hmm. But

it was still North America. Right, but I mean,

no, I mean, as far as the toys go, not the cartoon,

but as far as the toys go, wasn't it the first

American nights? I don't want to say that either,

because I think that Takara, you know, for the

most part, has the majority of the actual engineering.

Okay. A lot of the ideas, I want to say the ideas

kind of come from the designers at Hasbro and

Pawtucket. But once they have the ideas and they

know basically what they want, they then pass

it over to Takara. And then Takara has the responsibility

of actually engineering them and creating the

parts and the diamonds and the molds and things

like that to create new toys. Yeah, so I don't

want to say that oh, yeah, they designed them

in the u .s. Because I think ultimately all the

designs come out of the u .s. Yeah but the the

animated line was just so awesome III kind of

came into it late and everything but again was

a hater shut up I Hated that series whatever

in my opinion this series sucks. Oh wait. No,

I do like it Once you actually watch it anyways,

anyways, we're not getting into a transformers

prime discussion. Thank you very much Honestly,

I I had seen multiple reviews of the deluxe bumblebee

the yellow the original bumblebee And I just

didn't like it. I I just didn't Not at all And

then I saw, I believe it was, I was in a Target

or Walmart or something like that, and I saw

this thing called Elite Guard Bumblebee, and

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell is

this? Bumblebee's not in the Elite Guard, or

he wasn't in the show. And it's a black and gold

slash yellow mustardization of the Deluxe Bumblebee.

It's Bumblebee in pearl colors. Pretty much,

yeah. And it's fucking awesome. I love it. I

love this paint scheme on him. I love the fact

that they actually took the time to actually

redesign the head as far, well, didn't redesign

it. They painted the head to be a black head

and not a mustard head. And it's just awesome.

And again, he has the hands or the stingers,

which I think is very, very cool. Boosters or

yeah, and and then the boosters on the back are

like a translucent blue which are also very very

cool I can't wait until we get the fugitive waspinator

Repaint of this Because he from what I've understood

and what I've seen pictures of he is going to

have Purple boosters and purple eyes. I love

that. That's so awesome. Yeah I was going to

say it's a shame that they couldn't do more of

a remold on the head. But no, it's nice that

we'll get it at all. Overall, there isn't one

line. I can't just sit here and say I like this

line over this line because they all have different

design aesthetics and they all have different

characters in them. Outside of the upcoming War

for Cybertron Optimus Prime release, I really

like the Classics Prime, but I like it as the

Shattered Glass Paints game, because I'm just,

I'm like, balls -on excited for Shattered Glass

for some odd reason. I don't know why. I love

me some Shattered Glass. Ever since I saw that

BotCon set, I've loved it. They're nice. Yes,

they they are very nice They're extremely well,

and you can just keep going to the well with

these I mean, there's all unlimited amount of

characters you can go back and oh, yeah and do

with these well they they did us there the the

TFCC is doing a shattered glass version of cyclonus,

which I've said before is pretty much just a

hot rod jet Because of the colors. You know,

I prefer my cyclonus to be purple. I would love

to get my hands on the quote unquote lavender

NK version of him. Just so I can have a chrome

nightstick, that would be awesome. But all in

all, so far out of the toys that I have, just

in general, I can't pick one toy line that I

like or that I don't like. I've been wanting

to get back into Beast Wars. It's just because

you don't have any energon toys. You mean Cybertron.

You said energon sucked. No, that's what I was

saying. You don't have a line that you don't

like. Yeah. It's because you don't have any energon

toys. Exactly. I know better now. And of course,

you sent me Optimal Optimus, which he's infinitely

awesome, but he's just too damn fucking big for

me to bring over to the desk right now because

I have nine other toys here. But, you know, there's

just... You know, if I made a list, there's probably

about 20 toys that have already been released

that I never had the chance to get it when they

originally came out. There's probably more than

that. But I'm very picky when it comes to my

collecting because as long as it's a character

I like, and as long as it's a paint scheme I

like, I will want it. And that's just the way

it is. I forgot to mention I do have three other

ones here. I have Robot Heroes Ravage, which

is the cutest thing ever, and Robot Heroes Optimus

Prime, which is a much, much better version of

Optimus than the G1 version of the toy. Well,

I love the G1 toy for what it is. I don't like

the fact that his hands have to pop off and be

put into his cab. And I don't like the fact that

his back is open and he has no actual back. Well

again with those G1 toys, they're all about stuff

that pops off and you have to store it somewhere.

True, true. And then the other one that I've

had standing on my computer tower for a while

is of course Mighty Mug Shockwave. Yeah. Plenty

of Mighty Mugs. No shortage of the Mighty Mugs.

Yeah, true, but come on now, you gotta admit,

Mighty Mugs Shockwave is one of the cooler ones.

Well, yeah, of the Mighty Mugs, yeah, that is.

One of the nicer ones. I like that, and I like

the jazz, to be honest. But I like everything

jazz. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, you know, there's

a lot of things that... that Hasbro and Takara

have done over the years for different lines

that some people will like and some people won't

like. You know the line that I really want to

give props to as long as we're bouncing around

a little bit here is the Alternators line. They

only lasted a couple years but I don't think

that there were any Transformers in the last,

well, 10 years, really. Aside from maybe RID,

which I was really excited about because we were

just coming off the tail end of Beast Wars, but

I don't think there was a line that I was excited

about consistently, every guy that came out,

more than alternators. Because I really liked

them. They were really good vehicles. Excellent,

you know, real world likenesses. These are, you

know, licensed car modes. and in real world decos,

I mean, like smoke screen. You can go out in

the world and find a car that looks like smoke

screen. Which is terribly cool. Later on in the

line when you get into, who is that? Wild Rider.

I don't think they called them, they didn't call

them Wild Rider in the U .S., they did it in

Japan. In the U .S. they called them something

else like something I forget what he's the yellow

one yes oh god yeah I really like this line I

don't remember his name but yeah but yeah but

I mean they get a little less realistic because

you know I don't really think that car ever came

in a deco like this but still they all had the

doors would open the hood would open the trunk

would open There's little to no idea that this

is actually a robot. In fact, I had smoke screen

in my office at work for a long time and people

would be like, hey, is that a model of your car?

And it's like, no, no, not my car. They would

know until I transformed him. And that was like

a method of stress relief at work, just turning

him back and forth in the robot mode. But I really,

really liked that line. And they actually came

out with an add -on pack, one of those garage

kits, that would allow you to put missile launchers

on their shoulders and give them energon sabers,

things like that. They were kind of fun. My Optimus

Prime has a purple lightsaber. So wait, you have

a Mace window inspired Optimus Prime. That's

right. Optimus Prime says, give me my lightsaber.

And he says, which one's your lightsaber? And

he says, it's the one that says bad motherfucker.

It's the one that says bad motherfucker on it.

So yeah, he's got a big purple lightsaber, which

I thought was really cool. One of these days

I mean like I said if I go to a bot con and it's

cheap I'd like to pick up one of those They actually

made like a gas can that goes in the back of

primes bed because he transforms into a pickup

truck and again, I Really don't like that. They

don't even I don't even think they sold that

prime in Japan because oh, yeah, they did I don't

think they were going to sell him in Japan because

he was a pickup truck. What they did is they

sold him as part of kiss players with a little

naked girl. I've got him too. I've got a little

naked girl that comes with him. Only in Japan

would that happen. Oh, exactly. Only in Japan.

There was a blaster that came out with a little

girl who eats sushi. And the third one was...

Can I see it? I'm looking right at Blaster 2.

No, there was a third one. I'm looking right

at it and I can't get to it. I can't see it.

Anyway, there was a third one. They had a little

girl. She's a little police officer. I think

it was a Prowl. Yeah, it was an RSX down off

his Prowl, I think. But she's got her panties

exposed. My god, I know it's so Japanese and

it's like, you know what? I'm not entirely sure

if this is right But yeah, regardless, um, yeah,

so what it come down to is Always there was the

prowler was it the the autotrooper that one might

have been the autotrooper I'm thinking of it's

in the it's in the closet somewhere. But yeah

It's in the closet somewhere exactly. Well, you

know And I'm getting way far afield here, and

I'm looping back, believe it or not. But I thought

that I had a Cybertron Galvatron leader class

and a Cybertron Galaxy Force Prime leader class.

Galaxy Force Prime was the last one that I bought,

I believe, because I just couldn't justify spending

$40 on another Prime that I was just going to

stack in the pile. So it took a long time for

me to find one. I believe I found one on clearance.

with a damaged box. And the fact that I can remember

that makes me want to believe it's in the closet

somewhere. I can't find either one of them. I'm

going to have to empty this closet to find the

Galvatron and the Galaxy Force Prime and pull

them out. It's annoying. It really is. Says the

guy that has a million fucking Transformers in

his closet. Two damn many toys in the closet.

Well, I mean, that's the whole point of the closet

is to all mint and box stuff. that I close the

closet doors and forget they exist. Maybe that's

redundant. I don't know. Do I really need them

if I don't know they exist anymore? If I've organized

them out of existence to the point where they

exist on a spreadsheet, I can see them here.

I'm supposed to own them. I thought I owned them

at one point in time because I wrote it down

in the spreadsheet. But I can't find it in the

closet. I don't know. They're in there somewhere.

I'm just going to assume they're in there somewhere.

Yeah, I don't know. So the idea there is to digress.

I'm going to make some room in the closet, jam

some movie shit in there, and decorate my cabinets

a little bit more with some more toys. When I'm

done, I might make a little movie showing off

my collection. I might take some pictures. I'll

do something. But for right now, I've got at

least two and a half cabinets that need filling.

I've got another cabinet or one or two shelves

that need reorganizing. I moved all of my 1987

-88 G1 toys to a different shelf and then moved

all of my classics toys up on the top shelf over

here. It's nice because I can see my 87 and 88

toys now, whereas I couldn't before. I guess

I'm reorganizing the dude here to make them all

look better. Yes, yes, you do. Well, I've got

to put them all in robot mode and stand them

up because it's like standing room only on some

of these shelves now. Well, like my MicroMaster

shelf. I've got all the Micromaster sets. I've

got all the play sets. I've got the vehicles,

and they're all in there, but they're in a big

pile. I don't have them displayed, right? The

beast machines, they're all standing on top of

each other at this point. I just got to stand

them up. My beast wars are all knocked over.

I got to stand all those up again, because I

guess I pulled some out and did reviews of them

or something. I took pictures of them at one

point. Yeah, it's just I just kind of find time

to pay attention to my toys. Uh -huh. Uh -huh.

I see. Having one of those moments where you're

ignoring me again. Well, I'm... What up, my chicken?

I'm putting Goldbug back into robot or back into

car mode because he won't fit on my monitor stand.

Because I'm trying to get all of the nine toys

that I have to fit on this thing, so I take a

picture of them. You know, it's one of those

things where we like what we like and yes, the

hobby is extremely expensive over time. I'm sure

that you have at least a million dollars worth

of Transformers. I wouldn't say that. I would.

I think I spent a lot of money, but I wouldn't

call it a million. You know what always kills

me is when I'm on eBay and I'll see somebody

selling their, you know, mint and sealed box

collection where they've got like every Transformer

ever made and they'll sell it for like 10 grand.

How do you think stuff like that? Well, you know,

I don't know. I know for a fact my collection

costs more than 10 grand. And I'm not entirely

sure if I would want to part with it for that,

to be honest. You know, I could kind of understand

if my house just burned down and that's all I

had left. Yeah. You know, it's like, oh crap,

what am I going to do? Am I going to start over

from scratch with nothing or am I going to sell

off the only valuable possessions I have left?

So, I don't know. I could probably... Make a

drink. I'd be doing a lot of drinking at that

point. Without a doubt It's like okay. Let me

see all of my Worldly belongings are now piles

of ash in my house or what was left of my house.

Yeah, I Think I'm gonna be doing a lot of drinking

now. Yeah, I want to get into before we close

this out. I want to get into Transformation difficulty

With with the different lines for people with

giant hands well not only that but I've said

this before, it's no secret. I was one of the

Mala cases for River of Holly, so I pretty much

do everything one -handed. For the most part.

And, you know, G1 Soundwave and Blaster, I can

transform them things back and forth, back and

forth for ages. They're just the simplest of

transformations. Right. The G1 Hot Rod and the

BotCon Gold Bug, I can transform them back and

forth, no problem. I mean, there might be, you

know, a little bit of... You know issue of getting

things to fit tightly but Some of the toys like

like animated Oh God I Watched a video some I

believe was Pia did a video. He was he was into

this buying the original 86 line from G1 Wow,

like Springer and cup and in blur. Yeah, and

I watched this blur video. I'm like, oh wow The

G1 blur transformation looks exactly like the

fucking animated blur transformation. Except

when I got my player, huh? I wouldn't say that.

Yeah, if you watch them back -to -back they do

a little bit. I don't know. Anyways. To digress

away from, you know... Yeah, let's not debate

the issue here. Yes, let's not debate the issue

at this point. But, you know, when I got blur,

I'm like... And Hezboah doesn't make it fucking

easy. These quote -unquote visual instructions.

Oh no, those suck. That's why P .R. is such a

fantastic resource. You can actually watch it

being done. And you can tell he's practiced this

a couple times before he's filmed it. Oh yeah,

he does. And, you know, so... I got blur, I was

kinda cool on blur, I always liked blurring G1.

So I got him, and this is just the first time

I bought him. Transformers animated blur is what

actually made me to buy double of every animated

figure that I have so far. Because I hate transforming

animated figures. Another reason why I haven't

gotten into the movie line is because those transformations

from what people have told me are extremely fucking

difficult. Some of them are a little hairy, yeah.

The animated line I can agree with, because literally

this is layer upon layer upon layer that you

peel back like an onion and then fold back in

upon itself until it looks like a robot. I usually,

whenever I buy new stuff, well now obviously

I do video stuff, which I do that for fun, but

anyway, whenever I would buy new stuff, I would

always take pictures of the alt mode before I

transformed it, so I'd have a picture of it in

the alt mode. As opposed to just keeping the

cardboard. Whatever. Anyways, and that's another

thing we can bring up is the packaging. I'll

talk about that in a minute. But, you know, once

stuff goes into robot mode, That's it. It's not

going back, because I'm one of these people that,

like you, display only. You know, do not touch,

do not play with, leave it the fuck alone. Well,

I'd like to play with these, I just got your

name in. Well, you know what I mean. I'm just

saying my own personal thing, but I, you know,

I know you have locks on your cabinet so your

little children can't get in there and play with

them, so. That's right. That's what I mean about,

it's on the shelf, it's on display, leave it

the fuck alone. That's what I meant. Exactly.

So once these things for me get into rollout

mode, if I want something to display in alt mode,

I have to go out and buy another one. And that's

what I've done with the animated line. That's

what I've done with Nemesis Prime. I don't have

a secondary Shatterglass Optimus, but... Um,

as I do with Cyclonus, uh, I would like to get

a secondary Bot -Con Rod. Actually, I need to

get three of those Rodimus molds. Actually, probably

more than that, holy crap. Let's see, two American

Classics, two Henkei, and uh, yeah. Well, you

know, what I've heard online now is that since,

uh, Fans Project is doing that, uh, uh, was it

the Protector Armor? Yeah. Yeah, those... The,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the Yeah, I was gonna see him. Yeah, I don't

know. Yeah, I don't think they make knockoffs

of that particular figure though. Yeah Yeah,

overall, you know, I've really enjoyed collecting

these two years When I first started out I was

mainly Just going for childhood nostalgia and

buying crap at outrageous eBay prices I've said

before I bought G1 Soundwave, G1 Blaster, and

G1, the original G1 Galvatron, not the movie

colored version, for a total of $900 for all

three of them. Yeah, I know. I know, I was stupid

back then. You totally could have bought like,

you know, a G1 Predaking with metal body. Well,

you know what? I bought the G1 Predaking with

a metal body and a trypticon for 450 bucks. Yeah.

I think I spent 350 or 400 for my Fort Max. Mm

-hmm. So I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You spent

way too much. Well, I mean, they came with boxes

and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Packaging. I miss

Styrofoam packaging. I am so sick of wire ties

and blah blah blah and I know you're gonna say,

well why don't you get one of those little knives

or why don't you get this giant metal knife that

I have that has my name engraved on it and every

other friggin' thing. Isn't it sweet? Yeah. I

gotta say, one thing about that video, I don't

know, somebody mentioned it to you on Twitter,

I saw it somewhere, somebody said something about

you almost look like Gomer Pyle in that video.

Oh no, it wasn't Gomer Pyle. Or not Gomer Pyle,

um, what's his, yeah, Gomer Pyle from Flannel

Jacket. That's what I meant. It was Private Pile.

Whatever. Private Pile, yeah, when he goes crazy.

Yeah. But practicing for Transformers toys, I

understand they have to keep the thing in the

box, don't get me wrong, I truly do, but oh my

fucking God. When I stand up buying animated

toys, I'm looking at, because I'm looking at

the entire package just to see, huh? With your

giant ham -fist trying to untwist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -twist

-twist -twist -twist -twist -twist -tw Yes, I

know kids are smarter than adults in some ways

especially transforming toys and forth, but um

I would think wow there's no way my kids gonna

be able to get this or you know if it I Don't

like how Hasbro has packaged these where it says

level one through five I don't even know what

a level five toy would even be but it's like

an alternator Well every toy that that I've had,

or that I've bought from the animated line, the

Deluxes and the Voyagers have, I don't even know

what Ultra Magnus said on his book, I think it

said the same thing, Level 3 Advanced Conversion.

And I'm thinking to myself, if I'm a parent and

I'm reading that, I'm like, oh my god, they're

gonna be trying to transform this thing for friggin'

days. That's not that bad. But I mean, as far

as the packaging goes, to go back to that, I'd

say back in the day, everything was packaged

in styrofoam. And Big Macs came in styrofoam.

They don't use styrofoam anymore, because producing

it or destroying it or housing it or whatever

is bad for the environment. So they don't use

that anymore. But in Japan, if you look at some

of their toys, they don't use twist ties. I think

that's just something that they that they do

in the US. No, they use tape. No, no, no. What

they do is they use a plastic mold. So it's almost

like a piece of plastic that is shaped like half

the toy. Right. And it rests in there like a

bed. Right. And then there's another piece of

plastic that's shaped like the other half of

the toy that sits on top of that one. Right.

And then they put that inside a bubble. or a

box. It's held in place by that plastic bed.

Right, but what I'm saying is, so the insert

part where you put the toy and then the outer

covering, so those don't slip apart in the box,

they use tape. Because I've bought, I have the

movie Galvatron, which is a Takara toy. Right,

they're taping together. It's scotch tape that

uses the box. The same thing for the TRU exclusives,

the commemorative series exclusives, because

I had the Astrotrain one. Same thing with that.

Those two pieces of plastic bubble were taped

together. There was no wire tie. No, I take that

back. There was wire tie on that one. I thought

there was wire tie on the commemoratives. But

in Japan, no, they taped those clamshells together.

But what I'm saying is something that, you know,

I know Styrofoam, it's not environmentally sound

anymore, whatever, fine. But I'm saying I miss

something that simple. Like when I bought my

Soundwave, my G1 Soundwave off eBay. Opened the

box, took the Styrofoam out, he's right there.

I can just lift him out of the box. You know?

Horrible sound of pulling stuff out of Styrofoam.

Little tiny chunks of styrofoam that fly through

the air and stick to your hair. It's better than

a box full of packing peanuts that get into every

edifice of Optimal Optimus's body. I was digging

packing peanuts out of that thing for days. When

I finally thought I got them all, I'm like, oh

wait, what is that by his knee? Oh shit, it's

another packing peanut. It came back. Yeah. But

the play eggs they multiply, you know again the

pack the like if you're one of those ones that

have to buy and keep mint on card mint on seal

car or mint seal box Yeah, it looks awesome But

if you're one of those ones that have to buy

it to open it to have it displayed out of the

box I tell you where I really lost it with with

packaging and twist eyes was animated blitzwing.

Oh my god. Oh Oh yeah. Remember? My finger. Yeah.

You got injured in the process. Exactly. A little

bastard almost ripped my index, left index fingernail

off. Well the problem was... There were twist

ties inside of him. Yes! That's the f***ing problem.

I, you know, I've bought Voyager Optimus. I've

bought Deluxe, whatever, Leaguer, Bubblebee,

Blur, Jazz, whatever. And I never ran into that

problem. And then all of a sudden I go to get

Blitzwing because I actually went back to watch

the show and I actually like his robot mode because

I had seen a couple of video reviews. Blitzwing

is the only animated character that I do not

have to buy two other toys of because the robot

mode is the only thing on the toy that I actually

like. But that's just my own opinion. But yeah,

this thing just turned me off to friggin packaging

because it's like holy crap. There's a twist

tie around the middle of the toy I had to try

I have said this before when I when I reviewed

him Oh God how I don't know how many episodes

ago I had to actually transform him into robot

mode to get out of the fucking box It's like

holy shit that was rough Exactly a lot of twisted,

but I've been opening the Cybertron toys lately

and God there's a lot of twist ties in these

guys They're not inside of the Figures, but I

mean there there's a lot of them and there's

a lot of those little rubber bands to clear little

rubber bands That tie everything together and

keep it. I hate those things Yeah Like like the

mighty mugs take take them for example you know

they have a plastic covering that they fall into

and they have a background Thing like a cardboard

piece of box that that the plastic thing sits

in And then it goes inside the actual box The

only thing they have on theirs is two little

plastic things around the arms and those skinny

little necktie things like you were talking about

a second ago, the plastic things that you can

rip off around the head to hold them in place.

That's another reason why I love the Mighty Mugs.

The Mighty Mugs boxes are pretty much the only

thing that I've saved that the boxes aren't destroyed.

Because I've saved my my nemesis prop one of

my nemesis prime boxes And I saved a couple of

my voyager optimus boxes from animated in they're

both destroyed So I get that out of the package

now the packaging on the animated toys was very

awesome Especially the voyagers because they

had that city background look that was cool.

I did like that But it's like, you know, I understand

that you know, you don't want people to steal

these from the stores But Jesus Christ who would

want to going through all this damn trouble?

Just to get to a you know, you know twelve thirteen

dollar twenty dollar toy Yeah, well the sad thing

is there's a lot of the scout classes that are

just falling off the cart Yeah, I never got into

the scout classes because the scout class stuff

was well I know you're saying Scout, you're meaning

Activators as well. Activators... I like them

in theory, but when I got Bumblebee with Shockwave,

I was like, ugh. It was just too small for me.

You know, I'm really surprised you don't like

those, because... You know, you complain about,

oh, it's too difficult to transform. Transform,

yeah. These guys are easy to... Yeah, you just

push a button and move legs and stuff. Yeah,

but the problem is the size, because, I mean,

I could probably hold two bumblebees in my fist,

and it... I mean, just holding one bumblebee

in my fist, it doesn't take up my whole hand.

That's the problem I have. But, you know, I don't

hate activators like I hate the movie line. And

one of the reasons why I kind of hate the movie

line is because, again, they're using it for

everything! I don't mind them. That's where the

money is right now, you know? Huh? That's where

the money is right now. Kids are buying that

shit. Well, it should be. It should be dead by

now, because the movie's pretty much lost all

hype. I mean, everybody hates it now, for the

most part. I mean, I'm sure there's some people

that still like Revenge of the Fallen, but...

I don't know. Overall, the toys that I've collected

over the last two years, I thoroughly, thoroughly

enjoy. One of the problems I had, and it's funny,

there was a while... I did have problems with

BotCon Blur, but we're not going to get into

that. But, you know, Rodimus, Goldbug, and Optimus

are the only three out of the entire BotCon box

set that I've kept. Because the jazz and the

ricochet and the, oh, what was it? Side Swipe,

who was supposed to be drench or whatever, drench

colors. You know, those, I could barely, I could

not get jazz transformed at all. I couldn't,

he was so tight. I couldn't get his doors open,

I couldn't get his legs, I just, I gave up on

it and said screw it. Yeah. And I sold him. So,

but um, you know, out of the toys that I have,

I'm very happy that I have them. For some strange

reason, my BotCon Shattered Glass Optimus, he

uh, his gun, his shield gun, or not shield, his

uh, cab top, his hood, gun thing for some strange

reason will not fit in his hand anymore i don't

know why so i have it as his uh... as his flying

jetpack backpack thing and i tried to interchange

the the nemesis prime gun with uh... with the

uh... the botcon hand and it that wouldn't work

either so yeah it's very odd but overall you

know I'm sure there are lines that people don't

like. I'm sure there are plenty of toys out there

in certain lines that are just horrible, horribly

designed toys. Take Cheetor, for example. Although

I love Cheetor's character. What is it, the Supreme

and the Mega Cheetor? That are just god -awful

molds of Cheetor. Oh, the Supreme Cheetor? From

Beast Machines, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, there's

the Machine Wars line, which was very short -lived.

Not a very good line as far as decos go or characters,

but the fact that they they managed to use the

little spring -loaded Scout class gimmick from

g2 mm -hmm well that also carried into the first

year of Beast Wars the Scout class auto Auto

morph the spring -loaded auto transformation

So that's kind of neat, but not very good toys

What's your favorite gimmick? I'm going to go

back to the minicons. The minicons, again, figures

on their own right, but some of them were target

master homages. Some of them were even headmaster

homages in certain cases. Some of them unlocked

different gimmicks on the main characters themselves.

Some of them even transformed into... Additional

guns that could go on on the like a cyclonus

had his minicon train transformed into Twin guns

that would fit under his cockpit So he'd have

like, you know GI Joe dragonfly style turrets

in the front of his Under the cockpit right and

that was really cool because it could it could

turn, you know into a tank Or it can turn into

a robot, or it can turn into, you know, front

mounted turrets that, you know, when you, I want

to say, when you pulled the trigger on his helicopter

blades, when they spun, they would also move

the turrets back and forth. So, I mean, a lot

of play value there. And now, I think, now that

they're re -releasing, or not re -releasing,

but they're bringing back minicons with the power

core combiners. Right. So you've got these scout

class figures that have their own mini -con.

The mini -con can be armor for the scout class,

or it can be a gun for the scout class, or like

a target master, or it can be vehicle mounted

weaponry, like anti -aircraft guns, on top of

the vehicle. I want to say it can also be something

else, but I think that's it. It might also become

a weapon for the for the big combiner gestalt

mode, but I'm not sure But I mean they're they're

they're very versatile Yeah, but I mean they've

had a long time to perfect the minicon Yeah,

I don't see like I've got cyclonus here in his

is robot mode is his the other one I have is

in the jet mode and it's still on the shelf But

I honestly don't see the head matter up ahead

now the target masters I never saw them as mini

cons because again I never got into like I tried

watching Armada I'm thinking oh wait they're

cool they're bringing back G1 oh wait what the

hell is this you know driving over an invisible

bridge portal to get from New York to Japan or

some crap like that or whatever I'm like this

isn't my transformers and um I've never seen

the target as mini cons Yeah. That's gonna be

the typical fanboy response though, is, oh, since

you won, so it must suck. There's gonna be a

lot of people who missed out on Beast Wars for

that reason, or a lot of people that missed out

on, you know, Cybertron or whatever for that

reason. Oh, I mean... Truck, not monkey. I'm

of the other opinion now. Monkey, not truck.

See, I'm still not a big fan of Monkey. Well,

you're not a big fan of anything Beast Wars,

for the most part. As far as Optimus Primeable

goes. I like Beast Wars. I really like Beast

Machines, because again, they started getting

more into vehicles at that point. But, you know,

I mean, I won't get down that rat hole, but I

just wasn't a fan of the Monkey mode. Any of

them. Really. The only one that I really, really

like is the Beast Machines... Uh... Blast Punch?

No, no, no, no, no. It was an Optimal Optimus

repaint. And they named him, like, Optimal Prime,

or something like that. I forget. I forget what

they named him, but it was an Optimal Optimus

in clear plastic. And it was in Optimus Prime

colors. With an Optimus Prime head. And it was,

you know, I thought it was just the most perfect

thing ever. I was like, this is a big ass Optimus

Prime. There's a triple changer, you know, or

well, he had an ape mode, a car mode, a plane

mode, robot mode. Yeah, so he had a four changer.

And he had Chrome and he was, you know, he's

awesome. I won't take him out of the package.

He's that cool. That was one of my draws to Astro

Train. Mainly the cartoon is what I got off of

him for the most part, and then I found the toy

years and years ago. I believe a friend of mine

had an Astro Train, and I loved Astro Train just

because of, now whether a triple changer is a

gimmick or not, I think it is, but I think it's

one of the cooler gimmicks because you have three

modes in one figure. It's like, you know, you'd

have to buy three different figures or two different

figures to get, you know, that alternate third

mode. Right. Like say you have, you know, a bumblebee

that turns into a car or a robot and then you

have a cliff jumper that turns into a train and

a robot. You'd have to buy those two figures

to get the three modes. Not that Cliffjumper

is a train and any, you know, heaven forbid the

Casey Case and Cliffjumper fans come after me

for this. but uh... you know it's one of those

things where the triple changes were just so

awesome and i never knew the autobots had triple

changes and i'm not going to get into the hatred

but i never thought you know i wasn't thinking

that you know you have to think springer was

a triple changer? well the first time i saw him

in the movie i'm like wait what the hell first

he's a helicopter then he's a robot then he's

some sort of car? Look at this and it didn't

dawn on me then because I was seven eight nine

years old Didn't dawn on me then that I had already

seen astrotrain. I knew I knew astrotrain was

a triple changer Yeah, you know I knew blitzwing

was a triple changer while the blitz the blitzwing

toy do you want toy is much you know? Yeah But

you know the sprinter hate aside. I'm like oh

god. What the hell is that crap? No, thank you

Just go dare to be stupid some bastard But no,

I really I think when I was a kid my three favorite

toys were laser beak astrotrain and Soundwave

and that was before the movie Before we were

introduced the to the Holy Grail, which is Rodimus

Prime I hate Rod to this point. Oh, shut up.

I got an idea. Why don't I kill myself? Hey guys,

I went back in time and saw, yeah, fuck you,

you killed yourself. What the fuck are you thinking?

Do you not realize that the entire Autobot race

is, you know, is relying on you? And what do

you do? Oh, you just slit your own wrists and

die. Good job, dumbass. What the hell are you

thinking? Don't cry, you little kid. Oh god.

Proto man's gonna kill me for saying this, but

you slit your own wrist with your own razor blade.

He he! Yeah, he says, oh, fuck, I'm dead! Oh,

geez. Um, but, uh, you know, the other thing

that, you know, I keep thinking about all this

stuff, um, you know, the toys that I never really

had. I did have a bomb shell, because the insecticons

back then were one of the easiest things to find.

Yeah. insecticons and jump starters. Oh good,

don't get me started on fucking twin twists and

tops. I hate those fucking things. Yeah. Those

were... You know, you were talking about knockoffs

earlier, and I know that there are a lot of knockoffs

that you can find in big lots and stores like

that. Kmart and all that stuff. To me... Twin

twist and top spin were the poor man's transformers

back in the day because every other toy was sold

out Or they were starting to bring in new toys,

but still there's like a fucking pile of twist

and top spin But they came in a box. They weren't

like carded, which I think is cool, right? No,

no all the g1 stuff came in a box cards didn't

happen until what beast was no i want to see

many times but uh... uh... uh... like one will

be in this five oxley they can only have a little

card okay yeah and uh... and in the cassettes

were carded okay but i'm saying for the bigger

like what we would call deluxe and in voyager

now for for for the bigger ones they were all

boxed for the most part there was no carded ones

other than like the the cassettes and and ladies

in the many condo the other many constant Whatever

I mean, technically yeah, you could see like

the the microbots and the cassettes as mini cons

They were kind of well, I don't call the target

masters kind of as many cons. Yeah. No, but anyway

But you know, it's just crap that was I gonna

say I Don't know either late we're wearing out.

No, it's not that I'm wearing out, it's just

that I lost my train of thought. Oh, you know,

the packaging for the Beast Wars stuff or something

or other, I don't know. But, you know, overall,

you know, I could probably, if I wanted to write

a, which I probably will never do, but if I ever

wrote some fanfic involving my toys... God. What?

What do you mean, oh God? Uh, shut up. I don't

see you writing any fanfic about the millions

of toys you have. That's because my opinion on

it is, oh god. Right. And I'm not saying, again,

I'm not saying that I would, but I'm just saying,

just looking at all these, these nine figures

that I have here, you know, if I was ever to

write something, Transformers fan fiction -wise,

I would have no problem finding a way to include

all of these different toy lines, I don't think.

From g1 to well the only Beast Wars toy. I have

not counting the robot heroes is optimal optimus

to To animated to universe to bot -con Which

I don't know you couldn't decide on a particular

line right for right no Because there's stuff

from everyone. You know That's the the age -old

argument of what line is better. Well. They all

have their own Ups and downs they all have their

good sides and their bad sides and their their

pluses and their minuses. So yeah, I Think it's

interesting when people write their own Mythos

like Don Figueroa, I think when he was doing

his own art before he went with Dreamwave and

IDW later on He did his own comic book and it

was awesome. And I believe that was his own I

mean, his stuff was based off of real life Transformers,

but I think a lot of the characters were his

own design. That was his own stuff. Really neat.

Anyway, not to fall down on the red hole. I think

we've done enough of that tonight. I thought

this was going to be a short one. I told you

it wasn't going to be! Yeah, we'll talk about

some Cybertron toys, and yeah, dig them. Yeah,

they're kind of fun. And I like the cartoon.

OK, good night, everybody! No, I told you it

wasn't going to be, because we decided on doing

the overall topic discussion versus reviewing

toys. Yeah. And again, this is the 60th episode.

And I should also mention, before we get into

the outro, that this is going to be it for a

while for Toycast. we will probably do some some

backlogging and not really advertise that we're

doing backlogging other than what i just said

but um between now and august really i i i have

to you know i have stuff going on in in my non

-internet life that i have to take care of and

deal with and um as far as financially i just

can't buy toys right now I won't be buying anything

until my pre -orders arrive from BBTS in August,

which I'll have War for Cybertron Optimus, Soundwave,

and a Japanese animated version of Rodimus. So

we're gonna go on like a quote -unquote summer

hiatus, I guess, for now, for Toycast. That's

right. Like Phineas and Ferb. Yes. What do you

want to do today, Michael? I don't know. I want

to not do a Toycast for about three months. Yeah,

we have other shows we can put you on. Well,

you know, we're still doing Beast Unleashed.

Yes. It's become much less raunchy, let's say.

No, it hasn't. Shut up, you're lying. No, I think

like episode eight, maybe, yeah, around seven

or eight or so, we really culminated. uh... this

is why this work really went dark episode eight

it went dark episode nine it kind of trimmed

off episode ten was just a recap episode episode

eleven and twelve uh... it's kind of back up

on par with with the runchiness but i'm sure

it'll get even runchier as we as we go along

uh... acts i've been trying to talk to a back

i don't know why it's for it's more fun that

way don't decide but i mean i don't want to push

it you know I don't wanna I don't know pushing

it is about just doing you know in the moment

just live in the moment man I suppose I mean

like I said uh what was it last uh it might have

been the last Toycast I was in it was just like

hello welcome to Beast Unleashed now we'll be

talking about dead babies and used condoms for

the next hour stay with us you know that's just

you know I mean it there's a limit you know we

really gotta Well, yeah, but I mean, you know,

you bringing in all that Rocky Horror stuff and

every other friggin' fuckin' Monty Python and

all that crap, so, you know. It's your own fault

that it went down the hole! It's a ha -ha! Monty

Python is, okay, maybe mildly offensive. There's

nothing if, well, maybe mildly offensive. Some

people might be mildly offended by Rocky Horror.

But I mean, these are things that I like. And

I'm not saying that you shouldn't like them,

I'm just... Bring them to the table, you know?

Like my Team Rocket reference, I know you hate.

I dig that. My Gnar walls, you hate. I dig that.

And I dig that you hate it, I think. I know you

do! You know, I play with that, I have fun with

that. But I mean, it doesn't mean that we have

to get into... Necrophilia in every conversation.

I mean that You know, it's just these things

that we reference I'm not entirely sure and you

know again There's probably people who listen

to this podcast who don't listen to beast unleashed

are going what the fuck? Well, you know over

to geocastradio .com and go to beast unleashed

podcast episode page and start listening Yeah,

even if you don't like Beast Wars We're still

pretty entertaining. Yes. Yes, we are. Yeah.

Yeah Are you a little young to be talking about

necrophilia? No, no, we're not Exactly, but I'm

off on a tangent again. I need to find a good

curse you perry the platypus for this episode

What I would like to say though is that you know

despite the fact that I'm not in every episode

of TF toy cast I'm happy to be in the last one,

at least until August. Again, you know, we'll

talk about that all fair. We'll talk about that

all fair. You know why you're not in every single

episode. I'm tired! No, it's not that you're

tired. Well, we'll talk about it off air. Because

I don't want you to say off air, uh, that last

25 minutes. I think you should edit it out because

I don't think it should belong in there, blah,

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