SDCC 2009 Destro, Universe Storm Cloud, and Marvel Muggs Logan

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TfGunMike, and joining me as usual is General

Techno. Hello. Hello there. And in the first

time, we've almost reached 60 episodes, and this

is the first time we've had estrogen on the show.

Nitro Streak is joining us. Hello. Hello. How

are you? I'm very good. Yes. This is actually

your very first podcast. Yes, it is. Talk about

taking your cherry. That's the first time we've

had real estrogen. We've had fake estrogen on

here before. I've reviewed by a Revoltec Yoko

a while back, for instance. Well, that and the

voicemails. And the what's? That and the voicemails.

The female sent in voicemails. What about, didn't

you do some of your Mighty Mugs? Weren't those

female? Yeah, but I mean it doesn't count though.

They're fake plastic. So it is plastic, it is

used in plastics, like estrogens are used in

plastics, so it completely applies. So you could

argue that we've never been really, truly estrogen

free, depending on the plastic composition of

the toys. I seriously doubt that nitro streak

is made of plastic. I was talking about actual

hosts being female or not. I was just running

with it. Yeah, you kind of ran that into the

ground a minute and 33 for 34 seconds into the

show And we've already gone down the hole Okay,

um So nitro streak why don't you introduce yourself?

Tell us a little bit about yourself as far as

what kind of a Transformers fan you are other

than the fact that you are a raging Starscream

fangirl I think my first experience with Transformers

was Armada. I never really got into it at the

time, though. You poor child. And my brother

had G1 recorded on VHS tape, and I loved that.

And my fandom of it kind of receded for a while,

but then when the movies came out, it went up

the charts again, and now it's my main thing.

The movies really brought a lot of people into

the fandom I have to say in general I mean like

people people who see the movies and then they

end up becoming big fans of another property

like g1 or animated or something as a result

I've noticed as we're recording this we're recording

this Monday night May 24th 2010 Steve Megatron

and I, who runs the network with me, we did ATTF

47 this morning, it's out now, and we brought

up the fact about the news story that TFW had

about Starscream to have his G1 personality in

Transformers Prime. And I'm thinking to myself,

what other personality is there than the raving

lunatic, want to take over and rule everything

Starscream? I don't know, that news story just

put me the wrong way. He was pretty mint being

Armada. Yeah. Like I said, I don't follow. Armada

Energon or Cybertron evil stepchildren of transform

Well, I know that or see I he's uh, I mean just

going off of looking at Revenge of the Fallen

stuff I know he's a fan. He seems to be a fan

of the classic G1 cartoon star screen So I imagine

we'll see something like that because he evoked

that in that they evoke that in Revenge of the

Fallen if you noticed so Classic G1 cartoon star

screen Only problem with having that type of

personality and of course it depends on the character

design for Transformers Prime I know it's gonna

be a mix of animated and movie verse designs

But the only problem with that is who are you

gonna get to voice him? Steve and I mentioned

this morning I kind of brought up the fact that

if Tom Kenny could take his animated Starscream

a little bit darker and not so comical maybe

possibly, but I don't know I'm convinced Tom

Kenny could potentially well Starscream would

probably be more Semi -comic relief though like

I mean keep in mind that it's it is G1 hybridized

with movie But designs like for instance the

thing is is that movie bumblebee was you know

he evoked the original bumblebee and movie Starscream

Realistically, what do people associate more

with Starscream movie Starscream or a more G1

s design? Yeah, I think that that's going to

inform it bumblebees the yellow car and the movie

design is a big has He's kind of known by the

movie design nowadays just because he's such

a big part of the movies So it doesn't surprise

me that he's gonna have borrow a lot of elements

from the movie design But yeah in the case of

Starscream. I mean he's known best for his g1

incarnation So I imagine we'll see very similar

very similar design design. It was g1 self Right

when I mean as far as the voice acting I don't

think there's any you know because for the main

part out of the news that we've gotten about

this new cartoon is that welker and and calling

her back is as Prime and I'm assuming Walker's

gonna do Megatron wheat that hasn't been confirmed

well That's what I was gonna say that has not

been confirmed yet, but I'm assuming that he

is because he's in it he's Probably going to

be doing that voice. I don't know. I was assuming

sound wave myself. Honestly. Well, it could be

I hope to God it's not dr. Claw, but you know,

they'll well keep in mind that Orsi and Kurtzman

were like just from that support to gone to that

they there They were in favor of the vocoder

like they were fighting Bay on that right, right

and they lost so set Sound waves gonna have a

vocoder. No question Yeah Um, what else, what

else, what else? Oh, let's see. Oh, um, I'm not

gonna go into too much detail with this since

I'm saving it for a potential 25th episode of

TFG1 Podcast, which will be the final and last

episode of that show. I finally broke down and

I got the matrix set. So, yes, that's in the

other room. Oh, let's see. I will be getting

about, uh, I think eight or twelve toys by September.

Just... Well, depending. I'm planning on using

the BBTS pile of loot and the Crystal Clear Optimus

Rotimus set comes out in July and then Rotimus

himself comes out in August as well as the War

for Cybertron Optimus and Soundwave. Very nice.

So, why don't we have Techno go first? Who are

you going to be talking about, sir? Alright,

I'm going to be talking about a figure that...

It came out sometime last year actually, like

not quite a year ago, but close, but I was getting

some other stuff off of BBTS at the time and

noticed that, holy crap, this is cheap now. And

it's the San Diego Comic Con Destro 2 -pack,

which, like I originally saw it, I was like,

eh, it's too expensive for me to justify starting

even though I'd like it. Then I got into Doctor

Who, and since Christopher Eccleston played the

ninth Doctor, that made me more interested in

at the set because it's essentially a 3 3 quarter

inch 9th doctor in a suit so i was like okay

now i want this more and then i saw bbts that

it was cheap and i was ordering other stuff from

bbts at the same time so i was like okay i combined

shipping yeah so so it's a two pack the packaging

i actually had it been sealed for at least a

week or so because the packaging is so nice It's

ridiculously nice packaging, this thing. And

I finally did bring up the courage to open it

and took it out. And yeah, it's a two -pack.

It's got one of Destro's ancestors, James McCall

in the ninth, and it's got James McCall in the

24th, who's the modern Destro, in it. I'm just

gonna talk about the ancestor first. The ancestor...

I'm trying to remember who played him in the

movie, but it was all I can remember is that

it was their first choice for Destro, but then

they couldn't secure their work visas or whatever,

so they cast Christopher Eccleston instead at

the last minute. But they still used him for

those parts of the film. Right. But anyway, he's

in traditional Scottish armor. He's got the kilt.

He's got heavy chest armor and stuff. It looks

like it's removable, but I haven't actually removed

it. He comes with a bunch of weapons. He's got

like a flintlock pistol, like a sword. There's

also a banner he comes with as well with the

Klan McCullen emblem on it. But I don't have

that. I don't have that out because the flag

doesn't stick too well to the flagpole. He's

got standard range of posability. He's got waist.

He's got waist articulation. The armor is split

so he can do his waist. He's got standard ball

jointed head, standard legs. Like basically all

the standard modern GI Joe articulation that

you'd expect of them. And the detailing is pretty

well done. And as the neat little detail, he

comes with the Destro helmet that they give him

in the movie and basically just plop it over

his head and he's got a big metal helmet over

it. And there's eye holes and a mouth hole on

there as well. So it's a pretty cool feature

on there. And then the second figure he comes

with that was the main reason I got this the

James McCallum the 24th Because it's the only

toy they made of the actual Destros. He appears

in 99 % of the movie. Mm -hmm Anyway, it's standard

suit. He's got the molded. He's got a jacket

on there That's like the jacket arms are actually

painted onto the hands like the what's done with

a lot of jacketed figures Just so he can have

full possibility on him So that doesn't really

hurt the figure. He's got the full range of motion

again. He's also got a little waistcoat which,

like, he's got a waistcoat that's attached to

his jacket which unbuttons. And the tie is actually

a separate piece of rubberized plastic as well

that's glued onto him. So you can, if you really

wanted to, you could fiddle around with the tie.

Which is kinda cool. And yeah, again, standard

poseability. He's got the standard movie stand.

Only, he's got a whole bunch of, uh, he's got

a whole ton of accessories. Destro. He's, uh,

got, he's got a whole bunch of chromed weapons,

for instance. Like, stiffened, chromed guns and

such. How much chrome is that? I'm sorry to interrupt

you. How much chrome is actually on the weapons?

Is it like... Like, the weapons are completely

chromed. Okay. Like, there's a, there's, like,

one or two weapons that aren't chromed, but all

the other weapon, but... Like the pistol he's

holding now, for instance, that's completely

chromed. He comes with a Mars suitcase, which

can store another gun. And on top of the Mars

suitcase, there's also, of course, on top of

that, the other handheld weapons. I think they're

the same ones that the retail store has, just

chromed. He's also got the alternate head that

you can swap on there. That it's chromed, and

it's his head after the doctor. Gives him his

nanomite injection. Oh, yeah his silver face

Yeah, like it's a completely chromed head with

the painted on eyes and stuff. So That's pretty

handy. Yeah, it's a pretty cool head really the

sculpt though all the parts that I'm not using

I just kept them in the box just for storage

And because it's like really nice packaging.

I've got no plans to throw it out So but like

I just keep his regular head on because it's

a good head sculpt. It's a really good likeness

of Eccleston complete with the giant ears and

I mean yeah it's a really good movie Destro toy

like I really like this figure and I like that

it's in scale with my other guys so I can say

like put them next to war machine or if I want

to go for out of scale stuff I can have them

like facing down in a five inch scale Dalek which

yeah it's out of scale but it's not that out

of scale compared to the new series Daleks so

Mm -hmm. That was cool. How much articulation

do they have? As I mentioned, they have the standard

25th anniversary GI Joe articulation, which is

a lot. They've got Destro, well, one thing that

a lot of the movie toys do have, but these guys

don't have actually, is double -jointed knees.

Lot of the movie toys have double -jointed knees,

but these guys only have single jointed ones

Mm -hmm, but like again that's kind of a nitpick

because the 25th anniversary toys were already

really good posability wise But like they've

got elbows knees wrists like all your standard

points of articulation that you would expect

The only one that they don't have to be honest,

which some figures have some don't I've noticed

is the weight is the torso articulation Whereby

the actual torso is a separate piece. It's connected

and Actually, I have to take that back. It looks

like Destro does have that like he's got a mole.

He's got his uh Yeah, he's got the full torso

articulation on him. So So really they're basically

the same as any other GI Joe as any other modern

GI Joe toy Which means they can do just about

any pose you want of them That's awesome. Yeah,

very awesome toys Okay, we're gonna throw the

female onto the bus. You're next, Nitro. Alright.

I've got my Universe Stormcloud, as I said before.

And he's really pretty much my favorite figure,

because he's very, very articulated. I can put

him in just about any pose that I would want

to. And he is based off the Powerglide mold,

so he actually has a little heart. inside his

circuits if you look under his chest plate. It's

very quaint. Worst episode ever. I thought that

episode was hilarious. I hate that episode. I

remember the interview with... I can't remember

if it was your guys' interview or Moonbase 2's

with David Wise who wrote the episode of Memory

Serves. That was a pretty fun interview where

he's talking about the character and stuff. I

think it was ours, but I don't remember. He snuck

in the phallic joke. We'll have to re -listen

to that, because I don't remember. Well, he snuck

in a joke with, like, I think it's Spikes Hammer

or something, and then it's broken or something,

like, you know, the standard emasculation joke.

Right, right. Continue. Anyway, I really like...

He has this little gimmick in which when he transforms

it's pretty sure it's very common but when he

transforms and you snap a certain piece in place

it makes the noise and I don't know it's little

things that like that that I find very entertaining

and he transforms very easily but one of the

things I don't like about him is that he where

his wing attaches It's a very little piece and

it tends to fall off. That irritates me a lot

when I go to transform him. But other than that,

he's really fun and he transforms into a B -10

bomber, which incidentally actually happens to

be one of my favorite planes. His feet actually

are not only forward and back, positionable,

but somewhat side to side. Not a whole bunch,

but just a teeny bit, but it really makes a difference

when you're trying to pose them. Very cool. I

was going to say, I thought only Leader Class

came with the transforming sound effect. The

Ultra is really the main difference between Voyagers

and Ultras other than size was the electronics.

Hasbro was trying out doing the Ultra Class price

point in a universe just to Revive it because

it hadn't really been used in a while. I don't

think the experiment paid off as well as they'd

liked Just looking back because we only got three

ultra class molds and they all got repainted

But really they they were stuff that if they

were done as voyagers, they could have without

the electronics They probably could have done

a lot more engineering wise with them Yeah You

know, when I was originally getting back into

it and I was finally going to like Target and

Walmart or anything else, I was looking at all

the different size classes. It really came down

to characters for me. And the Ultras, none of

them save Power Glide, which no one should save

Power Glide, everyone should kill him. You know,

the Ultras just did not appeal to me whatsoever.

To be fair though, with Powerglide, I would argue

he's the best of the three Ultras in terms of

transformation. He's easily got the most involved

transformation of the three. The electronics

don't hamper it at all in my experience. Whereas

Silverbolt, he basically transforms almost exactly

like the G1 toy. And Onslaught, I mean he's got

a simpler transformation, but again he's a really

good toy. Silverbolt really is the weakest of

the three. unless he's repainted. Yeah. Into

something cool. Which they did, so. You have

anything else on Stormcloud, Nitro? Um, that's

really about it for him. Oh, he also has this

button that makes shooty sounds. What the hell

is a shooty sound? It's how he's shooting his

cannons. Oh boy, that's not always shooting off.

Oh yeah, question for you, Nitro. Do you find

that yours is a ridiculous hair trigger on the

button that triggers his sounds in robot mode?

Yes. Oh gosh, yeah, actually I had him in a backpack

for a while and he was driving the other people

I was with crazy because he'd go off every few

seconds. You know what? I knew someone was going

to say something. Oh, jeez. Bad choice of words,

my bad. That's funny. I didn't say anything,

so... Oh, boy. You'll probably want to check

out my link, then, Nitros. Oh, lord. I'm not

even going to go there. I don't even have to

click on that thing. Oh, let's see. Well, I guess

we brought it up kind of on HTCF. Finally, the

BotCon registration is open. Yeah, yeah. Whoop

-de -doo, BotCon. Meh. Oh, jeez. So how many

toys are you going to take with you, Nitro? Oh,

gosh. I haven't even decided that. I wouldn't

even take any of them with you. I'd just go with

empty bags so you can bring back more. I'll probably

just bring like two. I'll definitely bring Starscream.

You know, he's my, you know, obviously. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't bring toys to conventions. I come

home with them. Oh, you liar! You took... Purple

wave animated shockwave to TF con last year.

I got him at TF con I got Okay, that's what it

was. I'm like wait. Why did he bring it with

him? Yeah, no, no, you just buy something then

end up carrying it around the whole time. Oh,

yeah No, I understand that but I don't understand

all these people, these fans that bring the toys

that they already have with them. It makes no

sense because you need room to bring back all

the ones you're going to buy eventually. Well,

to be fair, I did bring some stuff out, but that

was because I was getting rid of stuff. I had

some stuff I wanted to get rid of. Right, but

I'm not talking about stuff you want to get rid

of or trade or sell. I'm talking about just bringing

the toys that you have in your collection, whatever

they may be, out to a convention. It makes no

sense because you're going to end up having no

room to carry, you know, all the new ones home.

Well, there's always exceptions depending on

if there's an iconic toy or something like, for

instance, if, for instance, take like Vangelis,

for instance, like him bringing something like,

say, his Omega Supreme or his, or the Christian,

Christian Bale head to whichever figure that

is of his. I mean, like, that's completely in

character for him and you'd expect to see that

on him, so. So, I mean, there's always a time

and a place to bring stuff. There's a big difference

between an internet personality and regular fans

You're saying you're not an internet personality

then I played the fifth on that I am going to

be completing my... I believe I've already talked

about, yeah, I've already talked about two Wolverines

out of the Mighty Mugs. I've talked about the

original classic comic colors Wolverine in the

SDCC 2009 retractable claws, which I guess is

supposed to be an homage to the movie Wolverine.

My two biggest complaints from the Wolverine

Mighty Mugs is, well, mainly with the SDCC version.

His head is extremely loose The claws work fine,

but His head you just touch it and it moves With

the regular one with the original one on mine,

and it's probably just quality control issue

on mine The head is very very tight. I can get

it to turn But the arms are extremely loose and

again I know this goes to the quality control

that you know you'd think that they'd be able

to work on that And I have the same issue, actually

the reverse issue of the classics with the cowboy

version of Logan. His arms are extremely tight,

but his head is extremely loose, which makes

no damn sense. I think the only reason, actually

I got the Logan figure that comes with the cowboy

hat. that's in the white feeder in the jeans.

I don't know why I got him because he was in

the wave with the rest of the other, I think

it's wave six of the Marvel Mighty Mugs, which

is him, Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Sabertooth. And

I think honestly I put him in the background

of the rest of my Mighty Mugs and take his hat

off and put it on all the ones. Because I know

I have a picture of the Starscream Mighty Mug

with the cowboy hat on. I just took one the other

day with the War Machine Mighty Mug wearing the

cowboy hat. So I'm getting more enjoyment out

of the cowboy hat accessory than I am with the

actual figure. You can't go wrong with the cowboy

hat. No. He does have the exact little... Come

on now Wolverine, you're not drunk. He does have

the exact same claw type as the original classics,

whereas the SDCC version, because they are retractable,

they're made... I mean, they're still plastic,

but because they're retractable, they're made

differently because they obviously have to fit

into the holes inside his hands. But overall,

they're good figures. It's nice to have a full

set. Actually, the SDCC version claws are actually

thinner. than the other ones. The other ones

have more... they're thicker, obviously. And

it's nice. I'll probably end up doing some sort

of video at some point with the three Wolverines

versus the three Spider -Men, because I have

regular Spidey, black Spidey, and Venom, which

I know technically Venom is not a Spider -Man,

but he used to be. At some point, I just don't

know yet. As I said before, I will be having

new toys come around August, September of this

year. So I will have other toys other than Mighty

Mugs, because I'm pretty sure everybody's sick

of me talking about Mighty Mugs. Of course, I

still have like, I think, three or four. Let's

see, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Duke, and I don't

think I've talked about Cyclops yet. So that's

three or four. That's good. Yeah, it is. Just

on a semi -related note, did any of you guys

see the video of the Impossible Toys RC that

was put up today? No, I haven't seen that yet.

Yeah, they put up a video of the in -box version

of the figure and even of the repaint that they're

doing. Oh, you mean the Nightbird? The original

mold, like the RC that they're... Oh, okay. I

thought you meant it was... I thought you meant

it was the TFCon exclusive Nightbird. No, it's

the same mold but like the original use of it,

the RC. Right. It's still basically a good showcase

of what the Nightbird is going to look like,

but without the new head and accessories and

stuff. I'm just wondering if Nightbird is going

to come in robot or alt mode in the package.

Probably alt because the RC is packaged in alt

mode in her packaging. Like the packaging for

RC looks like that same packaging as a G1 toy

Yeah, I don't know. I kind of wish that night

bird I don't even know if I'm gonna get I was

trying I've said this before well not on this

show It's been a while since since I've said

it on this show and by the time this episode

airs It'll be kind of dead as far as topic wise

but I've tried and tried and tried to figure

out a way to get to TFCon or to be able to just

get the non -attendee to get the figure. And

I don't think I'm going to be able to do it.

I wish I could, but I just don't think so. And

I think for me, if I was to get the Nightbird,

I would mainly want it for the robot mode. And

if it's not going to come packaged in robot mode,

then I really have no interest because I don't

feel like transforming it. It's I don't know.

It's a ridiculous really simple transformation.

You could probably do it with one hand really

yeah You know it's you know whatever I'm looking

forward to get in mind Yeah, I don't have to

see by the time this episode airs It'll be a

couple weeks ago, but I'll have to see next week

and I'll figure out my finances and see if I

can afford it if not Yeah, oh wow Yeah, there's

rumors now that Hasbro's gonna be doing a generations

RC anyway, so Yeah, that just came out today.

There's a rumor now that they're going to be

doing Generations RC and Cup. Off of what mold

could that one world cup obviously they can use?

Well, they'd probably be new molds. Oh, would

it? This would be in the Generations toyline

that they're doing, so. Yeah, but isn't the generations

line mainly so far the War for Cybertron toys?

No, there's only four War for Cybertron toys

in the mold. You bought Straxus as War for Cybertron,

we're getting Red Alert and Thrust in the line,

and those are G1 repaints. Drift's G1 essentially,

and the blur remold of that is going to be a

G1 blur. Generations is their new cat is their

new term for universe. Yeah, it's yeah, it's

universe 3 .0, but I Don't know just from what

I've seen all of the as far as like I've seen

the pre -orders at BBTS. It's It's the war for

Cybertron toys Well wave one has wave one has

two of the war for Cybertron toys the prime and

bumblebee and makes have Megatron Megatron is

he wave two or is he wave one? I can't remember.

He might be wave 2. I know Soundwave is wave

3. No, he's not. He's wave 2. Wave 1 is Drift,

Thrust, Prime and Bumblebee. Okay. Wave 2 is

Megatron, Soundwave, Darkmount and Red Alert.

Oh, okay. So it's a pretty much a 50 -50 mix

of War for Cybertron, guys, and I think Blur

is probably going to be in the third wave, and

fingers crossed we're getting a Starscream from

War for Cybertron. Yes. Nitro wants Starscream.

Repaint potential so I can see Hasbro going for

that one. Yeah. Yeah, um What else what else

what else the oh Damn, I just had it tip my tongue.

Oh, I don't remember We have anything else we

want to talk about or bring out I know what I

was gonna say. I was gonna say I wish that BotCon

would do this. I know they won't because it's

kind of an SDCC thing. I wish they would announce

a new Mighty Mug at BotCon. I know that potentially

they're going to announce one at SDCC 2010 this

year and I'm hoping it's Rodimus. I would like

a actual official Rodimus and not just a fan

-made version. I think that'll be pretty cool.

I know eventually that I think Ironhide and Prowl

are gonna be wave four, I think. Or there'll

be some exclusive wave or something, I don't

know. Right. Well, I think Rodimus is a good

chance, if only because of the fact that, like

why I mentioned that RC Cup room or some of the

speculation, especially when you tack in blur

as well, is keep in mind that It's not that significant

here, but over in Japan it's 2010, which is the

year that season 3 took place in Japan. So I

can see Takara Tomy being interested in doing

Transformers 2010 figures, and it just so happens

that Hasbro can release them over here as well.

Yeah, but it depends on if they're gonna like...

We all know that there's differences between

the US and the Japanese versions of toys. That's

what I'm wondering about my Rodimus pre -orders.

Is the Japanese Rodimus toy going to be chromed?

We've seen pictures of him, actually. Right,

but I thought that was just a different picture

of the BotCon version. Are we talking? Go ahead.

No, I think that we did see the Takara one. I'm

just double -checking there. Yeah, we did see

the pictures of the Takara one, I think, so.

OK. But I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's

going to probably have the, I guess it's not

really chrome they're using. It's just more of

a silverish, like a shiny paint that they're

using as opposed to chrome. And I mean, it'll

probably have the spoiler done up, I'm sure,

so. I mean, I'm sure the Rodimus is going to

look really good. There's the rumors that there's

a masterpiece Rodimus Prime in the pipeline.

Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. Same

thing about Protector. We talked about Protector

a number of episodes ago, Protoman and I did,

and now that I'm thinking about it, the alt mode

for that just looks horrible. I mean, it doesn't

look horrible. It looks good, but it doesn't

really match to the classics Rodimus figure,

I don't think. Well, the All Mode looks a lot

like the Rodimus Prime to me. It's a space Winnebago.

Yeah. And they even added some more so that you

could stick the little flame gun onto the back

of the trailer, which I thought was a nice touch.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's not going to be for

everyone. The add -on kits aren't, so... Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, an official release, though,

I think could be very... it could be very well

done, so. Yeah. And as I've jokingly heard people

say, if it could transform in more than one way,

that would be completely absurd and awesome at

the same time. And a total movie homage. Oh,

boy. There's only one good movie toy, in my opinion,

and that's Ravage. Other than that, the rest

of them can die in a fire. No, I was talking

an 86 movie. oh okay well yeah it doesn't transform

the same way twice oh oh yeah that's the kind

of insane thing I could see the designers actually

going for yeah but that was more hot rod than

Rodimus he didn't do that once he became Rodimus

that's more of hot rods characteristics which

granted classics Rodimus is just a is just hot

rod without I mean without the add -on kit it

is basically a hot rod toy but as far as the

movie goes, it wasn't when he was Ronimus, it

was when he was Hot Rod that all the multiple

versions of the transformation happened. I actually,

I think, now that I think about it, I think my

favorite one of those was when he was underwater

and he transformed into the car with the folding

hands and everything else, that was kind of cool.

Alright, Nitro, do you have any parting words

before we go into the closing? Uh, no. I don't

think I can think of anything at the moment.

See, it wasn't that painful, was it? No. Thank

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