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Marvel Mighty Muggs and Transformers Encore Cassettes

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and GeneralTekno dive into recent toy pickups, starting with Marvel Mighty Muggs—particularly the Human Torch figure with its glow-in-the-dark flame head and light-piping effects. They then shift to the Transformers Encore 17 cassette reissue set, which includes Steeljaw, Ramhorn, Slugfest, and Ratbat. The hosts discuss the quality of these G1 reissues, their articulation compared to modern figures, and Slugfest's spring-loaded stegosaurus spines as an early example of automophing. They also speculate about potential future Soundwave updates and how Hasbro might reimagine the tape-deck concept for new toy lines.

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I'm your host, DFJuan Mike, and joining me is

General Techno. Hello. Hello there. How are you?

OK. I'm doing all right right now. Yes. I...

I'm trying to think here. We just... I don't

know. I ordered some more money mugs this past

week because I'm really starting to love them.

They're just... It's not just the Transformers.

It's pretty much all of them. I think the only

ones that I'm iffy on is the Star Wars ones just

because I just don't know. I just... I don't

know. But... Since I already have all the Transformers

ones, I've started collecting the Marvel ones.

The first one I got in was Human Torch. He is

awesome. I remember I actually ordered anything

from Hasbro Toy Shop, but I ordered Hulk and

Wolverine from them back on the 5th of January.

And for some strange reason, when I ordered it,

I said standard shipping. I wasn't going to pay.

the astronomical price that they want for overnight

shipping. Oh, of course. I said standard shipping

since 7 and 10 business days. I ordered these

on the 5th, and it has not been 7 or 10 business

days. You got it? Yeah, because I had a box in

front of my door when I came home, and it said

Hasbro Incorporated on it. It didn't say Hasbro

Toy Shop. It just said Hasbro Incorporated. Why

would Hasbro be sending me stuff? I'm not a celebrity.

And then I open it, and I'm like, you know, I

see the green part of the box for Hulk and I'm

like, oh, cool, it's the money box. Good deal.

See, at least I've heard that they're pretty

good with shipping to the US in that sense, in

terms of getting stuff fast, even with the regular

shipping. So it really has, I think it really

depends on the item. Like, they're probably more

just covering their butts if it's something,

if they're really busy at one point. Let's see

what else is going on. Not much else is really

going on. Hopefully I am going to be, of course

my birthday is still a month away. Hopefully

I'm going to be going to Toys R Us out by the

mall and see what mighty mugs that they have

there. Because like I said, these things are

awesome. They just are. I'm going to turn the...

Turn the video on really quick just to show you

the Wolverine one because oh my god Is this a

Logan? No, this is really yellow spandex one

Which is this the classic costume or the modern

cost classic yellow yellow and blue spandex?

No, I'm asking because the classic is different

than the current one. So Okay. Yeah, that's class.

Yes because the modern one is a bit different

it's still blue and yellow but it's different

well this is the xtas one i'm not sure if i like

how wide his mouth is though well i'm not a big

fan of the face but oh well i mean it's not it

kind of works yeah i mean i just and and the

claws are kind of weird because they're they

kind of like bend into each other They should

have gone the route of the original original

Wolverine and given him whiskers on his outfit.

I don't know about that. What do you mean? The

things on his ears? No, I mean like the original

Wolverine design like that appeared in the issue

where he fought the Hulk. He had whiskers. Okay,

see I only know Wolverine from the X -Men series

and the - Yeah, you - That was his one appearance

before X -Men. He actually appeared in the issue

of the Hulk where the Hulk's attacking Canada

or whatever and they send a Wolverine at him

because he's working for the Canadian government

at that point. Well, here's Hulk. Yeah, I honestly

don't like those Mighty Mugs nearly as much as

the Transformers ones. Well, the Transformers

ones have a lot more articulation and design.

I mean, the Marvel ones have, you know, design

to them. Like, with Human Torch, his... head

is a giant flame okay well maybe we should start

with you then in terms of the reviews since you

were showing me all these mighty mugs I mean

I don't know it doesn't really matter to me the

way I'm going to turn this video I'll save on

bandwidth and all that happy crap but because

now I've seen Human Torch I can kind of comment

on them so yeah I dig him and really honestly

the main reason why I dig the Marvel Mighty Mugs

now and I will continue to pimp this guy's channel

I'm actually probably gonna have him on Toy cast

at some point like a like an interview thing

like why he started up started up, right? It's

Jason Henry. His YouTube name is redhead Henry

He started up a show called superhero mugs and

he Films his mugs and all that, you know He takes

pictures and then puts it together through film

and makes like little you know episodic type

of deals with these Marvel money mugs right and

it's just a really really cool show And it just

got me wanting to buy more of these mugs I'm

actually... Yeah, I know what that kind of thing's

like. Yeah, exactly. This is... Sea Transformers

cartoon. Yes, exactly. Actually, I'm probably

going to talk about Human Torch tonight, because

I think he's really cool. He kind of has a glow

-in -the -dark effect to him. A little bit. Not

really. But if you hold... Not really if you

hold, but if you put him next to your monitor,

say, and don't have any other lights on other

than your monitor, his head part, where the flame

is... It's not truly translucent, but it almost

is Nice. I did like the look of that human torch

that you showed me there. Yeah, he does Like

I like them the best of those three. Yeah Yeah,

maybe it's just cuz the fire effect. Oh, yeah

Well, the fire effects are cool on this one because

if you take him And you, you know, same thing

with the glowing hair flame thingy -dee -lee,

if you take him and put him right next to a light

so the light goes through the back of his head,

his face glows. It's kind of like, it's kind

of like fully on, like full face, full facial

light piping basically. And one thing I noticed

about him on his right eye, I didn't show this

to you in the video on his right eye, his eyebrow

is like perked up. Like, hmm? You know, like,

come here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah,

really. It sounds like Johnny Storm right there.

I'm probably, because I am talking about him,

I'm probably going to, when I do Prost, Prost.

When I do post -production on this episode, I'm

probably going to go back and get my Fantastic

Four film and rip out when he says flame on,

because that's the only thing that I currently

have available for Human Torch. I know I can

go on YouTube and look for the cartoon, but the

cartoon kind of sucked. What about their appearance

on the Spider -Man cartoon from the 90s? Yeah,

that's true. I find that. Who voiced him then?

But yeah, go on with Human Torch. Yeah, Human

Torch. Again, these are very different than the

Transformers ones. They're pretty much whatever

their main, like you said, classics design or

design that everybody knows them from is pretty

much what it is. He is mainly orange. He does

have a bunch of different... lighter yellows

and oranges. I think they really did well on

the detailing because on his chest, like where...

I'm trying to think. Like where on the Muddy

Mugs Megatron chest you have the Decepticon symbol.

On his chest you have the Fantastic Four symbol

but it's all like in those orange and reddish

colors. It's just really cool and the main like

design for him is this flame head. these flames

on his head and it's just really cool. I like

him a lot. And he's got this smile on his face

like, oh yeah, I'm cool. I know I'm cool. Even

though he's burning hot. I'm just reading about

the guy who voiced him. There's actually two

people that had voiced him back in the 90s. Like,

there was the Fantastic Four TV show where he

actually had two different voice actors, and

then on Spider -Man, on the 90s series, he had

the second voice actor, so. Who are they? It

was Brian Austin Green in season one and Quentin

Flynn from then onwards for the 90s cartoon.

Oh, that's cool. I think I like Chris Evans'

version better, but that's just my own personal

opinion. But overall, he's really cool. I really,

really enjoy him. I'm glad I've got him. And

just having these, like, in person, I mean, you

know, seeing pictures is great, but just having

these in person, it's like, it makes me want

to buy them all. It's like, you know, forget

Pokemon, I get to catch all these guys, you know,

so. But it's just, it's very, very cool. Yeah,

so that's pretty much all I have to say about

Wolverine, you're not drunk, stand by. Yeah,

I can't think of much else to say, comment about

human toys. Yeah, I mean, he's just, he's a really

cool figure. And again, with the Marvel ones,

there isn't, like, there's some cool aspect designs

on them, but they're really, it's not like the

Transformers ones, where you have, because the

Transformers are robots, obviously. where you

have design aesthetics that you could take from

the original toys or from the cartoon series.

Like Shockwave is a perfect example with his

gun and his little hose thing. Or Grimlock is

another perfect example with putting the Tyrannosaurus

head design painted on the back of him. With

these, it's basically your usual uniformed superhero

and some articulation or not right an articulation

some design like like Wolverine has his claws

the other Wolverine I think it was one of the

SDCC exclusive ones has retractable claws which

I think is pretty cool I don't think I've ever

seen that in a in a Mighty Mug but this one does

not have retractable ones but I like it though

it's really cool yeah just a sec I'll just be

right back just a minute okay so he's going somewhere

Yeah, Mighty Mugs, as I've said before, you can

say what you want about them. I think they're

cool. I really like these guys. Can't wait to

get them all, or get all the currently released

ones, and just see what kind of poses and little

stage things I can do with them. Okay, well,

I guess I'm done talking about Human Torch. Who

are you going to be talking about? I'm going

to be talking about... one of the Transformers

encore releases. As you guys know, I'm not really

a G1 person. I don't know if I've said it on

the show much, but the big thing, even though

I'm well aware that it's because of limitations

at the time, I'm not that interested in G1 because

I don't have the huge nostalgia value for it

that some people have, and I demand high levels

of posability and stuff that I buy in general,

which is why I like the modern ones and the current

universe ones right now. But I made an exception

in a few cases There are some g1 figures that

I do like because of certain novelties and stuff

the insecticons are one set for instance Simply

because they're the insecticons and they're awesome

but and another example Would be I guess sound

wave because he sound wave but this one really

grows out of sound wave Because sound we one

of the things that made sound we've so awesome

was the fact that he could launch tapes And the

tape transformers always intrigue me. I have

my reissue sandwich with Ravage and Laser Beak

and I quite like those. And then I found out

Encore was doing tapes. And so, I'm going to

be talking about one of the Encore sets of cassettes,

the Encore 17. It's the Cassette Big Mission

2 set. This was the second set of cassettes that

Hasbro released. There's been three that were

released. The third one I do want to pick up

at some point. And this one has four G1 cassettes

reissued with it. Two Autobots, two Decepticons.

It's got Steeljaw and Ramhorn on the Autobot

side for blasters tapes. And on the Decepticon

side, it has Slugfest and everyone's favorite

accountant, Ratbat. Fuck Ratbat. What do you

have against Ratbat? I bought... One of those,

not, it wasn't one of those, it was one of those

eBay auctions. Somebody was selling off the original

G1 versions. These weren't those knockoffs? No,

they weren't knockoffs. They were the original

G1 versions. So I bought like, I don't know,

six of them. Like three two -packs. So it was

rumble and laser. I don't know, it was some combination

of rumble and somebody ravaging somebody and

ratbatting somebody. Well, my Ratbat tape, I

love the tape part of it. Went to transform him,

his head fell off, and I couldn't get the wings

to stay where they were supposed to. So yeah,

that's my issue with the Ratbat cassette. Well,

I'll talk about Ratbat first then. First of all,

my Ratbat doesn't have the problems that you

mentioned, yours does. I actually had a knockoff

Ratbat before this that I picked up at TFCon.

when Aegis Threen up who at the time they were

basic they'd gotten in a lot of hot water with

Hasbro for all the knockoffs that they'd been

selling on their site because they were like

where you went to buy knockoff g1 knockoffs yeah

and then Hasbro finally took the hammer down

on them and then they let them sell off whatever

they had left at TF con so they were like liquidating

they were liquidating knockoffs that really like

these are high quality knockoffs to not crap

ones They were liquidating these things that

really add ridiculously good prices Like we're

talking things like they were sell like the cassettes

I can't remember how much they were but like

they were selling the reflector sets for pretty

cheap as well and It's just overall a lot of

knockoffs and they I think they got rid of everything

But anyway, I got the t1 but anyway that one

was a bit floppy and stuff but overall, okay,

and then I got the g1 encore release and Really,

it's a lot better than then it's pretty solid.

The only thing that's really loose on him is

his ears The ears like to flop but they do stay

up but they still do stay up if I pose the head

properly And as for the wings, which part of

the wings was it that wasn't staying where you

wanted to? The top the top part of the cassette

as you fold it up to make the wings that both

of them Oh, yeah, those are solid as rock like

the joints are all pretty tight on this rap that

they weren't on everything Yeah, but on this

reissue everything fits in place pretty well.

So I've got no complaints there plus. He's got

his gold weapons as well So that makes him pretty

nice indeed I mean rap that was the reason I

wanted the set simply because the fact that he's

rap that yeah and I like rap that because of

the way he was portrayed in the a comics much

to a Derek Wyatt's chagrin. As he does not like

accountant ratbat. Ratbat should either be one

of two things, a cassette in G1 or a ketarn animated.

Both, he should be an accountant. And run the

Decepticons competently too. He was probably

the best leader the Decepticons had. Aside from

bludgeon, he was probably the most effective

leader they had. In terms of everything was about

cost analysis. He actually ran the Decepticons

like a business. The dude was smart about what

he did. As everybody knows, there's very few

Transformers comics that I've read. IDW's been

reissuing them, so I've been reading a lot of

them then. Anyway, so first the other ones though.

Got him, but then I was pleasantly surprised

by a number of other cassettes that were in the

set I'll start with steel jaw. He turns into

a lion. He's one of blasters cassettes comes

with his gold weapons Again, his joints are all

really good the joints on all of these I've got

no complaints on they're nice and tight And they're

brand new so they're nice and tight joints Let's

steel jaw The only thing the only thing that

kind of slips is that the main folds up a bit

when you transform him But that doesn't always

stay up for that easily But he's he looks really

good I like the way that he his body piece the

cassette slides out in order to extend his body

a bit It's a neat touch And yeah, he's a very

good figure Yeah, I had the background was a

kid I don't have it now unfortunately, but I

had the original blaster when it first came out

and I had all four cassettes and I don't know

where they are now. They probably died somewhere,

I don't know. But yeah, I always did like the...

because I never had Soundwave as a kid. I mean

I loved G1 Soundwave now because of the cartoon

and because of the movie and all that other stuff.

Not the new movies though, the original G1 movie.

you know, but when I was a kid I had blaster

and blaster was was my tape deck and I loved

his cassettes and and And everything else. So

yeah, I really like still John. I was a kid.

Oh, he's a good figure He's got his gold chrome

weapons as well. So he said he looks great Like

really these are all these are all animal cassettes

all the cassettes in this set and they're all

very good two figures Also as well as steel job

was another one of blasters cassettes an iconic

one ram horn. Yeah He's pretty good. If memory

serves, I think everyone's favorite internet

personality, Vangelis, if memory serves, I think

he voiced Ramhorn in one of the TFCon audio dramas

a couple years ago. I think it was him that did

Ramhorn. If he listens to this, he can feel free

to correct me. I seriously doubt he listens to

this show. I doubt he has time to listen to the

show. He's a busy guy. Yeah, Ramhorn again, he

comes with his gold -chrome weapons, which again

look pretty, again, they look really nice. And

he's just a very nice, and he's a very nice display

piece. I mean, he's got the, I mean, all the

beast formers have the fully posable legs. So

I mean, it's tricky to get them to stand, but

you can still get a bit in the way of dynamic

posing with them. Like more so than with a lot

of G1 toys. Yeah. Which is one of the reasons

I like the cassettes so much. Like I like, I

love the original Ravage. Yeah, he is pretty

good. Yeah. And then, yeah, also I want to note

that all the Encores, they also have rub signs

instead of faction symbols. So if you're a rub

sign fan, these are up your alley. Yeah. I'm

just trying to get it to work. It might not work

that easily because it's really cold out here,

but... It works a lot better in the summer. And

I'm having a hard time getting the rub sign to

go. That's fine. But I have tried them before

they do work. The final one, it's another Decepticon.

This one was a very pleasant surprise and he

ended up being a standout in the set for me.

He's a lot simpler than Steel John Ramhorn, but

he's very cool for one reason. And this one is

Slugfest. He turns into a stegosaur and he's

one of Soundwave's minions. He's a pretty respectable

stegosaur. I mean, he looks the part pretty well.

But the thing that I really love about this,

and he's modestly posable compared to the other

steel -drawn ram horn, because he doesn't have

knees. I mean, part of that's just because of

how short his legs are. I mean, he's not quite

as posable as them. He's got his silver chrome

weapons. He's the only one that has silver weapons

in the set, but I seem that that's accurate to

the G1 toy. But the thing that makes him really

neat, though, is just the fact that he's probably

one of the earlier examples of automorphine in

a Transformers toy line. Right. Because yeah,

it says 86 us the copyright date on him So I

guess that's when he came out, but I mean I could

easily be wrong There's probably some examples

of figures which had what we what we call automorphine

in it to nowadays But when you transform him

when you pull the head and tail out the spot

Stegosaurus spines are spring -loaded and they

automatically pop out when you move the head

and tail So it's basically It's auto morphing

before it was called auto auto morphing right?

It's the auto conversion like with Voyager Optimus

Yes, yes, okay. Yeah, I think a better example

would be some of the movie toys simply because

they tended to do this type of thing some of

them I mean, it's spring look it's spring loaded

mind you but yeah, I know I mean I'm trying to

think of a good example of a movie figure I guess

a good example would be say like the Yeah, no.

Yeah, no one one isn't coming to mind right now.

That's fun You know really honestly outside of

like the original G1 cassettes not not the newer

or later versions that came out like slugfest

and and Squawk box and beast or beast box and

squat like the original cassettes that were Introduced

up up till the movie. Yeah frenzy rumble ravage

laser big buzz saw rat bat Those are the ones

that I like. Well, that's not a rap bad. But

I mean, as far as characters, those are the ones

that I like. And really, honestly, with Soundwave,

I just like having them in them. I just like

using different cassettes inside of them to show

different parts of them. I would like to get

that SDCC reissue. Yeah, that is a nice looking

reissue. I got the Toys R Us reissue when that

came out with Ravage and Laserbeak. So that one

that one was a good reissue as well so That's

the double door that's the double door version

mind you that has a plaster door like the SDCC

if you care more about toy accuracy But he looks

pretty good with the double door though, so yeah,

I mean that's another discussion for another

day, but yeah slugfest He looks he looks pretty

cool. I really can't wait to get the second the

third set because that has overkill in it and

I always think of overkill and slugfest in the

same sentence so that's cool but yeah like the

third set that one's that one's probably the

one that I'm most interested in getting because

it is rumble and frenzy and I don't think anyone

out and as far as I thought I assumed those molts

had been lost or destroyed so that was a pleasant

surprise to see if they were reissuing them see

I see you know and I don't know a whole lot about

200 molts I will be the first one to admit I

know nothing about molds in it in itself But

I would think that as long as Hasbro owns the

rights like the copyright to them look like the

name rights You know to that property or to that

character I wouldn't think that they would destroy

a mold especially if they're gonna do reissues

for it Well, no, that's not what but keep in

mind though. This was back in the 80s before

they would have even thought of reissues And

the problem with molds being lost or destroyed,

what happens is that for a game destroyed, it's

because the molds end up getting degraded so

much overuse that they're no longer useful. It's

like what we're seeing slowly happen with the

Brutus mold, in that with its latest reissue,

it's degraded a lot, my understanding is, from

the original. Like those molds barely have any

use left in them. they probably shouldn't have

been used again actually but yeah because it's

be it's easily the most abused of the G1 combiner

molds yeah but in the case of rumble frenzy though

and what happens when they get lost is there

were certain molds like I think Sunstreakers

the original where Hasbro Takara don't have them

anymore because they got lost or during when

they were changing factories or something like

that or they or maybe there was a fire or something

or they didn't any whatever case they don't have

their hands on the mold anymore through circumstances

beyond their control like another example a more

recent example of this would be that after a

bot after the one bot con where they did the

I am trying to remember the line but it was one

of the Beast Wars lines where they did the where

they did the exclusive Tigatron at that convention

isn't that down with futures past No, no, no.

You're thinking of the Beast Wars pre -Beast

Wars. I'm thinking of the one that was a... It

was a repaint of the retool of Ravage that they

did from Transmetal Cheetor for Takara. But the

reason that we haven't seen that mold anymore

is partly because they don't have it anymore.

The mold got lost at some... The mold got misplaced

or lost at some point after it got made for the

convention. So that's why we haven't seen any

more of that figure. I wouldn't have been surprised

if Hasbro had released that in a reissue line

or in Universe or something like that, simply

because of the demand. Yeah, and it's like I've

said before and other people have said before

in this show recently, no matter what Hasbro

said the middle or end of last year about Universe

possibly going away, Why would they make a business

decision to put away a Transformers universe

line where you can pretty much release anything

under it? Well, they didn't say universe was

going away. The way they phrased it, they phrased

it as if it was coming back after. Okay, right,

it is. But what I'm saying is, at the time that

that happened, it was my understanding that...

because the Revenge of the Fallen Line was coming

out, they were going to do away with Universe

until... Yeah, they put it on hold until it was

over. I don't blame them for that business decision.

Well, I don't either, but I'm just saying I think

they could have phrased it better because the

way I heard it, they said that Universe was going

away permanently. That's the way I heard it back

when they had first talked about it. I could

have misunderstood or... I misheard it, but that's

the way I understood it, but I'm glad it's coming

back. Okay, maybe you misheard then, because

yeah, Universe, I don't think they were planning

on getting rid of it. Heck, even at Balkan, they

were showing designs for the next wave of Universes.

They pretty much said it was going on hiatus,

they didn't say it was going away. They explicitly

said the line wasn't being cancelled. If they

said the line was cancelled or shelved, then

that would be a very different thing. But instead

they said it was going away, which implies that

it's coming back. But yeah, these cassettes though,

they're really nice figures. I really like the

G1 tapes, simply because of the fact that they're

transforming tapes. Something that we need to

see more of. Just in terms of spirit. I would

have liked, now this is just what I would have

liked. I know it's not going to happen now, because

obviously animated is done with. I would have

liked it if they would have kept Soundwave as

the tape deck and used tapes instead of keytars.

That's just my own personal opinion. I know it's

not going to happen now since animated is done,

but when I believe it was the first episode that

Soundwave was in, he was shown in an animated

style G1 cassette deck. Yes, they did that as

a homage. Right. And then at the end of one of

the episodes, I don't remember if it was the

one in C - I don't remember if it was Sound and

Fury or if it was Human Era Part II. Yeah, he

looks like Music Label Soundwave. Right. So,

just me personally, I wish that, like, for the

toy and the design for the cartoon, I wish they

would have kept the tape deck. You know, granted,

you know, you can make the argument that, oh,

not a lot of kids these days know what a tape

deck is. We're going to make it very successfully,

too. Well, exactly. Well, teach them what a tape

deck is. Well, why do they need to know what

a tape deck is? I don't know. For some odd reason.

I don't know. Some people just don't. And I'm

going to say this. I'm a kid in the 80s. I grew

up when beta was going out and VHS was coming

in. You know, being born in 1980, I had an advantage

of knowing about all this stuff that went on

in that decade. Kids that were born after, like,

1991, I would say, have no idea, because CD players

were just starting to get big. I'd say later,

because I guess my brother was 1990, but we need

tapes first. Well, yeah, but I mean, I don't

know. For some odd reason, I... I keep hearing

that, oh well we're not gonna make Soundwave

a tape deck anymore, we're not making this SUV

because kids know what a car is now, they don't

really remember tape decks. Well the thing is

though is, I actually like the way they did it

in the animated because they showed that sound.

Really the reason that we haven't seen a Soundwave

for so long as a character is because he's so

linked with the tape deck image that they've

had a really hard time figuring out a way to

get Soundwave, a recognizable Soundwave out there.

I think that's the reason we haven't seen much

of Soundwave, quite honestly. With Animated,

they created a figure that evokes Soundwave.

It was a very clever transformation, I thought.

Instead of his chest being the cassette door,

his chest is the back of the car. No, I don't

like that. Animated did it very well with keying

in on the homage design of, again, it's in the

animated style, but it's technically, it's an

homage to G1 Soundwave. They did it very well.

I don't see why they couldn't have released,

even if they did it as a store exclusive or a

convention exclusive, I don't see why they couldn't

have released a cassette deck version of animated

Soundwave. I'm sorry, the animated... But it's

not in the animated style though, is it? It's

close enough. It's a box. It's close enough It's

hard to animate how he's a box Well Okay, I'm

just saying that it's a that the animated figure

I mean the music label is a perfectly fine stand

-in if you really care about that But I mean

with sound wave I mean like has Bruce clearly

been experimenting with updating like for instance

where he was a satellite in the revenge of the

pollen movie Honestly, going off the design we

saw for the truck mode that they had for Soundwave,

going off that robot, that was a freaking awesome

update, and you could tell that they were putting

a lot of thought into trying to create a Soundwave

that evoked the original. I mean, you look at

the toy that Hasbro put out, the original Deco,

and yeah, it's clear that this is Soundwave looking

at the robot mode. There's no question it's Soundwave.

You mean the animated version? No, I mean the

movie, Revenge of the Fallen. Like, they paid

attention to get the head right, so. Oh, okay,

yeah. The head is unquestionably sound wave.

Right. And the chest has plenty of sound wave

elements on it as well. Yeah, I don't even...

I don't want to count the movie, though, because

the movie, you know... What the movies I've tried

not to be oh my god, it's not g1 I've really

tried my damnedest and I like both films. I really

do I really other than the fact that I think

the stories are kind of screwed up I like all

the action that are in both of the films, but

You know, I'm talking about as far as cartoon

design versus toy not the actual movie. So I

Don't know. Anyway, do you have anything else

to say about the cassettes? Guess one thing I'm

gonna say I'm one thing I'll say is that this

is just a prediction of mine based off of just

on speculate Like I've got nothing to go off

here But just for the I have a feeling that we're

gonna see a new sound wave in the new future

Not sound blaster, but you said but new sound

wave Apologize to so to just make a reference

to the infamous dub of the headmaster's cartoon

Right, but anyway, I have a feeling that Hasbro

wants to update the tapes somehow, but they haven't

been able to figure out how. And I have a feeling

we're going to see something in the Power Core

combiner's line that is going to involve the

cassettes. Yeah, I can see that. I wouldn't mind

seeing a sound, like for instance, suppose we

get a sound wave where the cassettes... are say

his minicons or his minicon equivalents or something

like that like they turn in the weapons or storage

contain or store in the back of the car or something

like that. Mostly what I wouldn't mind with with

a sound wave was if he's not going to be a tape

deck in the in the new 20 line that's fine but

if he's some sort of iPod holder and the cassettes

or the cassette characters are like iPod Nanos

that would be cool. They kind of did that with

music label with the Rumble Frenzy headphones.

Well, I mean one thing they could always do though

just a idle speculation if they stick with the

movie and say making the satellite They could

always make the cassettes turn into pieces of

the satellite. Yeah And that would be a clever

way to do it as well. I personally think the

truck would work better simply because I think

that that offers the most bulk. If you've ever

seen Don Figueroa's design for an alternator

sound wave, I think that that would be a very

good starting place. And animated sound wave

used elements of that in its design because Don's

was a van where the trunk, the back of the car

is upside down in the robot mode and the trunk

forms the tape deck holder, which was a very

clever update, I thought. Yeah, I mean I'd love

to see a sound wave like that and maybe have

the rum include he'd probably have laser beak

with them But I'd love to see Rumble and frenzy

make their way back into the toy line somehow

Maybe even set it up so that they are They both

combine into one common weapon or something like

that. That would be a very cool To have them

combined Okay Alright, so I think that's going

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