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Upcoming Transformers Cartoon, Mighty Mugs Grimlock, and Revenge of the Fallen Long Haul

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and General Tekno discuss breaking news about the new Transformers animated series, including confirmation that Sue Blue is casting and likely directing, and speculation about the show's visual style based on leaked game imagery. They review the Wave 2 Mighty Mugs Grimlock figure and its design details, then dive into a detailed look at the Revenge of the Fallen Long Haul voyager-class figure, including custom paint applications and posability considerations. The episode also covers recent toy deals, cassette reissues, and fan art featuring Transformers characters.

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Three! Hello and welcome to the 27th episode

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on all of your toy needs. I am your host TFG1Mike

and I am joined by General Techno. Hello. Hello.

Yes we have a lot of news that has been coming

out this evening. We are recording this Tuesday

night December 8th that will be released Wednesday

morning December 9th. Michael Bell has been contacted

and tomorrow he will be going for an audition

to the new Transformers cartoon. So yeah, we've

got news about the new cartoon. Actually, it's

funny, I will go ahead and spoil this. I wasn't

going to do this originally, but for the upcoming

Beast Unleashed podcast that Steve, myself, and

Michael Wilson are going to be doing starting

in January, We actually got an interview with

David Kay, that's right, Beast Wars Megatron,

and animated Optimus Prime, Lugnut, and Grimlock.

He actually told us that I had made a comment

in the interview to him, you know, I believe

that he, besides himself, Sue Blue, has been

the one person that has been the longest involved

in the Transformers on television, cartoon things.

He goes, yeah, and she's still going to be involved

with it. And my jaw just literally dropped to

the floor. I don't know if it was something he

planned to say. It wasn't something we specifically

asked him. Well, in the Moonbase 2 podcast, they

released their latest episode, which was their

interview with Michael Bell, where this news

is from. They did say that as well. Sue Blue

is casting this show and she's probably going

to be directing it as well. That's very cool.

Confirmation. And yeah, we're seeing that Michael

Bell, it sounds like he's read for a couple of

characters already. It says on the TFW page,

it says he read for Ratchet or he was being asked

to read for Ratchet. Which, you know, I'm pretty

much holding off all judgment on this thing until

I see it. Because right now, The movie stuff,

revenge of the fallen stuff is over. Granted,

they're still pumping out revenge of the fallen

toys. That's more than fine. But I mean, pretty

much the movie stuff has died down, hasn't it?

Yeah, my guess is that we're going to be seeing

movie stuff until the summer, until the beginning

of around May, June or so in all likelihood.

That's just going off of when Transformers Animated

launched. That seems most likely... point choices

to win right but I mean as far as like the chatter

and the talk and and the Discussion and all that

stuff. It's pretty much not even movie related

anymore as far as I can tell People want to know

what the next new thing is going to be yeah,

and we just got a huge hint tonight When that

was a game informer article, I think showed up

with a scoop on this brand new transformers game

which It looks very much like a semi -stylized

take on the War Within type designs, in that

it's very G1, it's very recognizable, it's really

nice graphics, and given how it's just going

off of looking at other shows that are on the

air, plus how this is somewhat stylized. and

the fact that there's no way they're going to

invest a budget in designing something this new

from scratch, I think we're looking at what the

new Transformers series is going to look like.

Yeah, it could be. And furthermore, just to add

more evidence to this, when I saw the pictures

of Prime, I immediately thought of a certain

prototype that showed up on the internet probably

a couple months back or so when that Drift prototype

showed up. There was a prototype of an unknown

figure which... based off of some people have

looked at it and there's some parts on it which

you can tell it's the same figure as that Prime

so we've seen a toy for this Optimus Prime already.

That's cool. I'm going out on a limb here and

seeing that that is going to be what we're getting

for the next cartoon. And that would be more

than fine. The only thing I did not like about

those images was the Megatron alt mode. He's

just a generic tank? I mean, I'm not real keen

on that. I like his gun though in robot mode.

His gun looks really cool. See, to me Megatron

robot alt modes have always been secondary. I

mean, Megatron got, really for Megatron, his

alt mode, really the only thing that's really

been defining about it is that it must have,

is that at least in the G1 sense of Megatron,

it has to have a giant gun somewhere on it. Right,

and I mean, I think that the most expressive

of any Megatrons, whether it be comics, cartoons,

whatever, I'm more speaking so for cartoons than

comics, but for the cartoons, outside of Beast

Wars, the most expressive for Megatron as far

as the alt mode was the animated helicopter design,

I think, as far as the cartoons go. Well, I mean

with what this looks to be a borrowing a page

from the award within comics just looking at

a lot of the Designs and stuff and how it stylized

and also another of note is the fact that when

I saw that optimist prime the first thing I thought

of in terms of style was Not actually was something

that's pre -established, not War Within or anything,

but Derek Yandiger's art from the G2 comic series.

Like that prime really evokes Yandiger's Optimus

Prime. And that gives me high hopes for this

because I'm looking at how, you look at how well

Clone Wars did on Cartoon Network. That's a fairly

mature show. They pushed the envelope a bit further

with the second season as well, because they

knew they could. Really, you look at that, there's

a lot of blowing up, a lot of violence, a lot

of war. And I'm looking at this and seeing that

Hasbro owns the Star Wars line. They know firsthand

how well Clone Wars is doing as a property for

them. So it looks like to me that they want to

do the same thing with Transformers. And that's

not a bad thing at all. That's a great thing.

That's a horrible thing for my wallet. That's

more than fine. I just did not want to get...

Oh, hey kids, this is Revenge of the Fallen animated.

You know, I just did not want to get the same

movie line story continuity in a new character.

I think a lot of us were hoping that we weren't

going to, and to be perfectly honest, I think

that the big reason that Hasbro wouldn't want

to do something like that is because they want

to give Michael Bay all the rope that they can

to... Hang himself. I figured you were going

to make that remark as soon as I said that. They

want to give him as much slack as he can in order

to create his own world. They don't really want

to constrain him with anything. Besides, this

way it's a return as well to... Hasbro likes

to do very different things to get different

demographics. Like this here, it looks like that

for the people who didn't like the movie, for

the people who didn't like animated, there's

not many of them. but they looked at what people

didn't like about animated which was stylization

stuff or at least chunk of the fan base didn't

like about it because a lot of us warmed up to

it but they went with uh they went with a clone

definitely it's a clone wars inspired a look

yeah yeah in that it's very stylized cgi i think

that'll be very close to what we get on the show

and the thing with cgi as well is that they can

do a lot of that to animation Looking at how

quickly they've been pumping out season two of

the Clone Wars and considering that they only

announced it last that they only announced it

Was it it wasn't even at San Diego comic -con

they announced it was it? No, it was before comic

-con, but they announced season two No, I think

they announced season two at comic -con so Okay,

so I mean really they've had boot when you consider

when season 1 started they've had very good turnaround

on this series Yeah, I don't pay attention to

Clone Wars at all Okay, I just don't Okay, it's

a good show. So I mean it's I'm as a Star Wars

as a Star Wars fan. I do like it indeed. So Yeah,

actually, it's funny. I I Was at my mom's today

doing doing some of her Not to get too personal,

but she's having a hard time getting around.

So I went over and helped her do some of her

laundry that she needed to get done. And the

whole time I was over there watching TV, I kept

seeing ads for Kmart and how they're saying,

oh, we have a deal. Buy two Transformers, get

one free. So I'm like, oh, can we go to Kmart?

Because I want to see what they get. First of

all, the only places outside of online purchasing,

the only places I go for my Transformers is the

local Walmart and the local Target, which are

you know, a 10 minute walk from my apartment.

I've never been, I've never looked for, I've

been in Kmart before, but I've never looked for

Transformers there, I just haven't. And, well,

hang on, I went over to the one that's closest

to us. I saw two oil slicks, as far as the anime

lines, two oil slicks, one Jazz, a Soundwave,

and a Voyager lug nut. The rest of it was like

these weird Revenge of the Fallen 10 packs of

mini -toys. Oh, the mini -cons? Yeah, I don't

know what you know. Mini -cons are evil, dammit.

Aren't those Universe 10 packs? No, they're...

They clu... It might be two different ones, because

I saw two different... Saw nothing that said

transformers universe. I saw everything that

said revenge It's a transformers revenge of the

fallen and it was the transformers revenge of

the fallen packaging and this was not the The

on peg this was the ones that just sit on the

shelves Yeah, so I don't know what it was but

there wasn't it sorry Well, I was just gonna

say that well, it's good to see that. There's

lots of revenge of the fallen stuff at the at

the place that paid Hasbro money to be the official

retailer for the Revenge of the Fallen toyline.

Yeah, true. And then Target got all the exclusives

anyway, so. Yeah, that's true. Let's see. But

I mean, there wasn't really any universe stuff

there. I was expecting to see some leftover universe

stuff, like I saw the leftover animated stuff.

I'm going to be going to another Kmart location

tomorrow morning and checking it out and see.

Because, you know, buy two deluxes, get one free.

That's not a bad deal. I mean, the deluxes that

I was looking at were, like I said, the oil slick

and the jazz and all that. They're like $12 .88.

They're like $13. Right. Well, oil slick's an

underrated. He's an underrated figure, I'd say.

I mean, at this point, I almost wonder if you'd

want to wait for the repaint because it's more

show accurate in its colors, but. Yeah, I, you

know, the only toys, as far as animated, the

only toys out of the ones that have not been

released yet that I'm looking forward to is Vortex

Blur, RC, and Rotimus, and Fugitive Waspinator.

I want that ratchet pretty badly, so. Cybertron

mount and the Ironhide, the remold that they're

doing from it. See, I wonder how they're going

to do that though. Oh, new head, it's the same

body. No, no, no, I know that, but I mean as

far as the overall color and design, because

I thought... You know a lot of the animated toys

some of the stuff has surprised me with what

they've done or haven't done as far as being

Cartoon Accurate and I'm wondering if they would

put a gimmick in there for for Ironhide to be

kind of Cartoon Accurate like go from his orange

is is is silver mode He's just gonna be the same

mold with a new head yeah, and I imagine he'll

be more of an orange or shred so that kind of

sucks I actually made an awesome deal with one

of my buddies on Twitter. He's also on TFW. I

have been bugging Michael Wilson for months.

He has a unopened leader class Megatron, the

original version. I want it now, not Michael's

version, but I... I have two extra, because when

I ordered my Wave 2 Mighty Mugs, the cheapest

way I could get them was to get them from VVTS.

But I already had Optimus and Bumblebee. So I

have an extra Optimus and Bumblebee that I wasn't

going to open, the G1 versions. So I talked to

this friend and I said, hey, look, I've got these

two Mighty Mugs. I've also got universe Starscream

that's coming in on Saturday I said do you know

anybody or what or does anybody know anybody

that has a animated Megatron that is either in

box mint in box or you know not really that well

you know not not really played with that much

and he said he did so yeah I basically traded

four no three three in package figures for a

very pretty much you know, excellent condition

Megatron, so at least I don't have to worry about

hunting that thing down again. That's pretty

good. So you traded some Mighty Mugs for it?

Yeah, Mighty Mugs, G1 Optimus and G1 Bumblebee,

and Universe 2 .0 StarStream, because I'm not

really into the jets unless I get a hold of the

G1 versions of them. I don't know, I like the

look of them, but it's just not something I have

room for really. Fair enough, it's a good mold,

that's fair enough. Oh, I'm not saying it's not

a good mold. It looks awesome, but number one,

I'm not a Starscream fan, and number two, at

the current time with the way that my shelf is,

I don't have room for a jet. Yeah, I could put

them in robot mode. I want the Megatron more

than I want the Starscream. That's fair enough.

But yeah, speaking of deal, I found something

that was a ridiculous deal as well this week

up in Canada. Superstore it's a retailer up here.

They do they're mainly like groceries and other

stuff, but they have they've been having what

TFA Voyagers they have marked down for $15 the

last bit and they had and as you know probably

from previous episodes it took forever for me

to get my hands on a shockwave a great shockwave

and then of course they finally started showing

up and Became not that hard to find to the point

where Superstore has a whole ton of these for

15 bucks at the Shockwave Skywarps. Oh, cool.

And so I got some extras because I was like,

OK, I've actually got three great Shockwaves

now, one in box and two loose. And anyway, so

it turns out that this week they've now got them

buy one, get one for Voyagers on top of the $15.

Uh -huh. So yeah, I've got a friend of mine whose

birthday is coming up, so I went and got them

both Shockwave and Skywarp, so. Oh, cool. And

yeah, 15 bucks for $60 worth of toys, that's

not bad. Yeah. I'm talking in Canadian prices

here for those who don't. Yeah, and I have kind

of figured as much. Because, yeah, wait, wait,

wait, wait. 15 bucks for what would normally

be, are you sure that's $60 for a Voyager? No,

that's for two. Oh, okay. Okay. I was going to

say... Okay. I was going to say... Alright, yeah.

But... Yeah. Let's see. What else was I going

to say? I almost wish that RC wasn't going to

be a Toys R' Us exclusive. Because I don't go

out there all that often. I might be able to

convince my mom to go out there. I don't know

at this point. I just don't know and I don't

actually know what like I was really disappointed

when I went to Kmart tonight Because I thought

that I would find just a whole bunch of of voyagers

Mainly of course I'm wanting more more primes

But I was hoping to at least find possibly a

blitzwing because I am kind of liking blitzwing's

alt mode or not alt mode the alt modes suck his

robot mode Oh, it's fun, yes. Yeah, the robot

mode's great. I think if I had him in robot mode,

I would keep him as crazy face all the time.

Right. Speaking of toy -related stuff with animated,

you saw the news about Japan getting the animated

toys? Yep. Took them long enough, and I guess

the question now is if there's going to be anything

different. Probably. Well, not necessarily. It

could very well be like what they did with...

For instance, the tail end of the Transformers

Cybertron, where they basically release the same

toys with USA Edition stickers on them. Like,

same packaging and everything that just added

USA Edition stickers. Yeah, I don't know. Either

way, I know I'm going to have to look into getting

the lug nut. Why would you want another one?

To answer your question, I've got the TFA regular

lug nut, I've got atomic lug nut, I've got McDonald's

lug nut, I've got all the lug nuts that exist.

Yeah, but if the, alright, if the Japan one is

the exact same one as the American one, why would

you want the exact - Why, keep it in box then,

of course. Okay, alright, well, that's fair.

I mean, hell, honestly, if you wanted another

one for in box, I could have grabbed the one

that was at Kmart tonight. Yeah, but if I want

I can always try and see if I can get a price

match at Toys R Us with the Superstore Flyer,

so. Well, that's true. Because they've still

got lug nuts there, so. Yeah. Let's see, what

else? Oh crap. I think that's really the main

stuff with the new news. Yeah. You know again,

they're gonna start casting this new cartoon

I think it would be awesome and we kind of touched

on this in the interview with David Kay. It would

be awesome if they got Colin as prime and used

him as Megatron that would be cool Used Kay as

Megatron you mean? Yeah, honestly what I would

love to see is I'd love to see a Colin for this

Show going off what we're seeing I'd love to

see a Colin Megatron and a Cory Burt sorry a

Colin prime and a Cory Burton Megatron I mean

we've seen him simply because I like I like keys

Megatron don't get me wrong but as far as a G1

a G1 s Megatron is concerned I just I don't know

how well I would like his voice on that type

of Megatron I think that K delivers a very different

Megatron than Burton and Welker did. Well, that's

the whole point, but I seriously doubt, I seriously

doubt K would bring Beast Wars and Unicron Trilogy

voice to this new series. I seriously doubt he

would do that. I would think that he would use

another different voice than the original one

that he did. You know, but you know, we can only

speculate and it's true from there That's true.

Mind you you're talking to somebody who'd love

to see lug nut in this series. So No, no I'd

settle for him voicing onslaught what appears

to be onslaught going off those screenshots though

Just because that giant makes okay. Well, that's

onslaught could work with a David K voice no

Just no lug nut. This is This right here, this

sound clip right here is about as close as you're

going to get to Lugnut. General Kessler, this

is Lugnut, and it's your duty to serve the great

and glorious Megatron. And I would like to point

out that the connection the night that we recorded

the interview was kind of wonky. I tried to fix

it the best I could. My buddy Steve even contacted

one of his audio buddies and said, and asked

him if there was any way to clean it up at all

without losing the actual audio. And he said,

there's just no way you can. Because there's

like an overall echo in the background, unfortunately.

And I'm not going to be a jerk and say, oh yeah,

Mr. K, we have to have you back on. Because I'm

not going to do that. I'm very grateful and very

happy that he had the time that he had. To give

to us with interview right we got so um you know

I've got a spare set of speakers I should consider

looking into rigging up something something just

designed to play that sound whenever I press

a button and then put it on a lug nut When I

first got the go -ahead on that, I was like,

oh boy, I gotta do something for techno, because

it'll go nuts. Yeah, that was really nice. Yeah,

I was like, I gotta have him say something. All

right, we are gonna take a break, and we will

be right back with the toy discussion. We are

back, and as I said earlier in this episode,

I did get the Wave 2 Mighty Mugs. What I'm going

to be talking about this evening is Grimlock.

When I first saw reviews of him, I was very skeptical.

I like G1 Grimlock. He is a very comedic character.

But I wasn't sure how he was going to translate

into muddy mugs. Just because... I just don't

know. I think outside of the original G1 toy,

the best Grimlock I've seen as far as the G1

character is the masterpiece Grimlock. This guy,

he's okay. He's not my favorite, but he's not

the worst in the line. He's not the worst in

the entire Mighty Mug series. That honor goes

to Bumblebee. Fucking midget. Just, you know,

as we've said before, the box comes, you know,

the custom box comes with his little face on

the top and the little, the three -dimensional

image of him. It's actually very funny. I noticed

this, I did a video for Starscream, which is

the other one I got, and Grimlock showing them

off out of packaging. Yeah, and I didn't notice

this on the box. It says enter Joe or enter go

sword It's I know what it's supposed to say.

It's supposed to say enter John But actually

I'm not sure it might be energy of sword No,

I don't think so. I think somebody just left

the end off Yeah, I'm not sure I've seen that

term before I'm pretty sure I'm just double -checking

this right now Yeah, energy of sword that's the

actual term Really? Yes, it is. I'm looking at

something. An energo weapon is a melee weapon

that uses energon to power a shaped energy field.

There's a wiki entry on it. Yeah, but you make

it much easier to say energon sword than energos.

Yes, but apparently that's the actual terminology.

Yeah. And it's not just the Dinobots that have

them either. Hooligan's got an energo axe. Oh,

Blazemaster from the movie line. His rotor blades

are energy weapons. Bomburst has one. Quintessons

have energy tendrils. There's plenty of precedent

for energy swords. Okay. Yes, his energy sword

or energon sword, whatever you want to call it,

is red. It's the same red that he has on his

visor and on his crotch. I do like the fact that

they kept with the gold chest. the Autobot symbol

on there. I think the two biggest things they

brought into this mold or not really mold because

all the Mighty Mugs molds are the same but into

the design of Grimlock is they brought part of

I believe what is supposed to be his feet it's

like a silver like there's the gray on his foot

but then there's like a silver claw thing on

the side of his leg kind of like what Prime has

the wheels. And then on his back he's got his

Tyrannosaurus head upside down, which is kind

of cool. Does he have gray on the back as well?

Yeah. Do you want me to take the side panels?

It's like a very light gray. It's like a little

silver, almost musical note type of thing on

both sides. And then it's got, like, gold, like,

right up at the top of his head. And it's, like

I said, it's got the T -Rex face with the mouth

and the eyes. And, yeah. But it's really cool.

I like him. I like him better than I thought

I was going to. Ooh, I just noticed something

else on his left arm. Is it just his left arm?

No, it's his left and right arm. He has the,

um... He has, uh... I believe these are supposed

to be his feet in dinosaur mode. He has two gold

claw things on the front of his arm and on the

back of his arm he has one of them. Which is

very cool, I think, what they put in the design

to these Mighty Mugs. Yes, the Mighty Mugs are

great for the little nods they put all over the

place. Yeah, I just lost a couple of brain cells

watching Sean Long's Mighty Mug reviews for Shockwave,

Jazz, Movie Optimus, and Movie Bumblebee. Only

because his ad for his sponsor, that guy needs

to just slow down and take a breath for Christ's

sake. I mean, he was talking a million miles

a minute. I get that that's his personality,

fine, whatever. But yeah, I was like, oh. But

nothing against the sponsor whatsoever. Oh, no

big bad toy store rocks No, I wasn't saying no.

I wasn't saying anything against the sponsor.

I'm just making sure it's clear. Yeah, exactly

No, no, I wasn't saying anything against the

sponsor. I was saying against the person that

was doing the video that was I'm just giving

you a hard time. Yeah Yeah, exactly. Um, but

you know watching those videos of shockwave and

jazz I can't wait to get those I still cannot

wait till those come in. Right now they're sitting

in California in customs. I don't know how long

I'm going to be held up there. But I still cannot

wait to get that shockwave in my hands. He did

point out that on shockwave, you know shockwave

has the antlers. They're just painted on like

Grimlox are. Which is fine with me. Well, Sean

had mentioned that Jazz has the ears like Bumblebee

does, and that's something that I don't like.

When I first got Bumblebee and I saw it, I was

like, what? I just don't like the devil ears

on the Mighty Mugs. I don't know what it is.

I just don't. The Jazz looks awesome though,

outside of the ears issue. It's very funny jazz

the G1 disfigured that that was in the video

and the movie bubble be They have Doors on the

back of them kind of like Starscream has his

wings Yeah, I think it's a cool thing, but I

don't know it's just kind of weird Yeah, I will

be keeping the the G1 jazz and shockwave and

I'll probably either be selling or trading the

movie Optimus and the movie Bubbly because I

just... I don't want this. Fair enough. Yes.

Overall, I would recommend that you highly get

Grimlock, I guess. He's not the worst in the

line. He's not the best either. But, you know,

really great figure if you're a Grimlock fan.

You know... Just overall good good figure the

inner Joe or inner John sword is actually a very

hard plastic But it does the the sword blade

does bend a little bit He his arms are very tight

like I've had varying degree of Looseness slash

tightness on on the buddy mugs that I've gotten

but his arm his right arm is very very tight

His head is to turn his head 360. It's very,

very tight. I think the only one that I have

that has an extremely loose head is Soundwave.

I mean, if you just touch it, it'll move. But

overall, great, great figure. My Mighty Mugs

collection, unless they come out with another

wave, past wave three, is pretty much finished.

As far as the Transformers Mighty Mugs anyway,

I've actually, as I said in the last episode,

I'm really liking a lot of the Marvel ones. So,

what are you going to be talking about? I'm going

to be talking about something I just got this

past weekend. We didn't get these guys for ages

and ages, but then some sightings got made of

this wave in Canada. And then, sure enough, we

got a huge snowstorm on Friday, so I didn't go

and look anywhere then. I just went... Wasn't

gonna go out hunting for stuff and on Saturday

and Saturday I log on Just check signs and stuff

and find out. Holy crap There's a whole ton of

long holes and grind oars at the toys arrest

right nearby me and toys arrest also has them

on for five bucks less this week, so Naturally,

I didn't go. Okay, the roads are a bit clearer

now It's a day later and I go off and get a long

haul and grind or so I'm gonna talk about long

haul Okay, the Voyager class from the revenge

the fallen toy line Overall long haul. He's well.

He's a neat figure He's a design that I've wanted

the toy of ever since I saw that Josh Nizzi Concept

art well before that was even official concept

art. I Mean that was just an awesome piece of

fan art at the time And then we found that the

guy got hired on and then for icing on the cake.

We found it that long haul was actually in the

movie Yeah Now what is his old mode because I

don't think I've ever seen the old mode for the

figure Okay. Well his old mode is essentially

the same type of all mode as the original long

haul only scaled up. It's a Dumped it's a big

dump truck only. It's not a construction dump

truck It's more of an industrial sized dump truck

like the type you would see in oil sands and

such like that Okay, that's one of those massive

massive dump trucks with the huge oversized wheels.

Okay Think it got scaled down compared to Nizzi's

original concept art for the movie I don't think

it's quite as big as Nizzi's design was but it's

still a very big truck so Like robot he's robot

mode he's alright In terms of accuracy, he's

got the mechalive gimmick thing where you turn

the head and there's a gear on the chest that

moves when you turn the head. Nothing too spectacular.

He's got flip -out blades, like the two pauldrons

he has on his forearms, which in the video game,

these are flamethrowers and or grenade launchers,

depending on what weapon you're using. But on

the toy, there's little switch blades that pop

out when you press the button. They store away

really well. And I'm honestly tempted. What I

was doing with my long haul, if anyone saw my

pictures on Twitter, is I saw him. As far as

paint apps go, some of the revenge of the fallen

figures are kind of weak, admittedly. And having

seen concept art and stuff, I thought, OK, I

know there's all this deco on the chest I want

to fill in. So I'd look at pictures I start filling

in deco and stuff like do the mouth and do the

chest And then I accidentally in the midst of

this figured out how to do dry brush effects

with gun to markers in the Kleenex several hours

late at night later I Yeah, I spent pretty much

the whole evening doing a dry brush on all of

long haul so he looks really awesome now Detail

is brought out like the detail on this guy is

just phenomenal. It's brought out really well

by What I did on there like you can see all the

detail all the molded detail and it looks really

good And yeah with the swords. I'm actually kind

of one thinking I'm kind of tempted to do something

like a mold that like Paint them up so that they

look more like flamethrowers or something like

that Give them more of a flame effect because

I look pretty cool. Yeah, and just looking at

them now actually I just noticed this now looks

like there's actually a cyber glyphs Cyber glyphs

on the swords themselves. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Yeah at first I was looking like is that some

sort of Serial number and then you know, it's

on the other one. Those are cyber glyphs cool

But yeah posability wise he's alright He has

the curling arms as they're called and that he

has no what he what he could have really used

was a ball joint it on his out on either his

elbow or on his or rather swivel on his elbow

or on his wrist because his wrists can only go

up and down so he's kind of limited in poses

in terms of that in that way and legs legs are

fairly posable as well they're hindered by the

backpack he doesn't have a waist turn again because

just because the way he has the legs club on

but that's no big deal his head is just a swivel

no ball joint and yeah so there's only so many

you can't really bend him down that easily as

a result I've seen some mods for a lot of these

points, like for wrists, the wrists and neck.

There's some mods on TFW2005 and tutorials on

how to do these. I'm probably not going to do

them myself, but and really the biggest complaint

I have with this figure though, but his robot

mode is the backpack in that it's not the greatest

in terms of show accuracy, just the way the shoulder

kibble, the wheels that are on his shoulders

work out. Like, they're not quite lined up the

way they are in the concept art. And there's

a big crossbar that's over his head that looks

like it should have had a pin in there so that

it could fold back. But the way it's built, it

looks like they could have put a pin in there.

There's supports for it and everything. It's

set up that way that it was certainly plausible.

But it looks like that for whatever reason they

didn't do that. So it's locked in place and it

really gives him a lot of back kibble. Now there's

different ways you can arrange the back kibble

fortunately a bit to make it a bit better I found

a way to arrange it that it limits his arm pose

ability a bit, but it makes it look a lot better

And again, there's mods on TFW with instructions

on how to mod this guy to put a pin in that piece

So that you can actually bend it back But yeah

the robot mode though, it still looks pretty

good pretty intimidating the sculpt is pretty

movie accurate aside from those issues then when

you and he's a very sizable Voyager and he's

even he and when you transform him in the vehicle

mode you've got a very good dump truck mode for

one it has a working it has a working dump dumper

thing in that you can actually move it up and

down which is great the dump truck bed works

and it looks really nice nice and intimidating

And I guess other things about it is that Well,

I think part of it was just the way that he's

dumb truck mode came out It's actually too big

to fit in a regular Voyager box in that it's

too tall like the dimensions I think part of

it is just that he compacts into a really in

he compacts into Dumb truck that it's bulky It's

not that big in terms of email space would take

up in a box, but it's pretty tall So the way

they actually packaged him was in robot mode

It's like I think that makes him the only figure

that In the toy line that saw wide release that

wasn't an exclusive who was packaged in robot

mode in the box. Oh Wait, sorry. There was the

fallen as well But the ball in it long haul are

both two voyagers that were essentially packaged

the same way In robot mode in the box. Yeah,

it wasn't that just normally for the leaders?

Yeah, normally they do that only for the leaders.

I think part of it, I mean, in the Fallen's case,

they could have easily packaged him in vehicle

mode, but because his vehicle mode isn't in the

movie at all, I think they just did it because

then otherwise people wouldn't know who the heck

it was. Yeah. And with Longhaw, Longhaw's vehicle

mode wasn't in the movie, but I think that was

probably more of just a, it wouldn't look any

good in packaging issue. Yeah, true. Kind of

like how on Void or Ball Kid, he barely took

up any space in the box. Because he compacts

down so much in his vehicle mode. Yeah. But I

mean, long haul is a bit of an even more extreme

situation in that he's a lot bigger. He's got

a fairly long limbs, so he actually takes up

quite a bit more space in robot mode. So he fills

a box really well, like how the Fallen fills

a box? Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, overall good figure.

He's not the best Voyager in the toy line, I'd

say. There's star screens of definitely a better

Voyager, for instance. And I'm just trying to

think of what other Voyagers I have. Mixmas,

he's definitely a lot easier to handle than Mixmaster,

because Mixmasters, it'll take you half an hour

to get him transformed figure. even though he

and he's very fiddly even though he looks good

but long haul he's simple enough to be easily

transformable his gimmicks a bit limited he looks

somewhat into he looks fairly intimidating and

repaintable wise oh he looks really really good

if you take the time to do some touch -ups on

him and yeah I would recommend I would recommend

him especially if you're a fan of the design

although to be honest I don't have the fast action

battlers, but having seen pictures of having

seen that toy in stores it honestly looks Pretty

good as well. Yeah So, I mean really it comes

down to what you're willing to pay but I think

the fast action battlers is Just as good a long

haul because it doesn't have the same backpack

issues, but it's smaller You had mentioned diecast

construction earlier. Diecast construction! It's

a lost art. So titanium Primal is a lost art

then? Yes. Primal himself a lost art? Yes, yes.

It's funny, I... Normally I throw inserts, like

when I order stuff I'll throw inserts, advertisements

away. I'm looking at this latest BBTS toy card

that they sent in the package that I got with

the Mighty Mugs. Living Dead Dolls presents Freddy

Krueger. Actually, it looks really really good.

It's a little bit taller than the actual Mighty

Mugs figures. What else is on here that looks

good? I don't know, I mean, whatever. You know,

I don't know. We were talking in the Ravage episode

about the actual need for USB device that doesn't

hold that much, you know, like the 2GB. They

have on here YUM drive, 2GB USB flash drive,

Hershey's miniature chocolate bar. So you're

telling me that just going off of the Ravage

thing, just playing a little joke here, you're

telling me that I'm going to have a giant chocolate

bar hopping across my computer screen once I

plug it in. That would be kind of fun. Either

that or just don't eat that chocolate bar. Yeah,

that's true. I'm sure that all of the, I'm sure

all the metal in there can't be good for you.

The copper and stuff probably isn't gonna be

good for you. Yes, exactly. I know that the,

I can't remember if I mentioned this, but I did

get my Ravagen and he is very nice indeed. Yeah,

I think you had mentioned him. I don't know.

I think we talked about him a little bit. Yeah,

we did talk about him in the ravage episode,

but I don't remember if I actually brought him

up or not And I did get the and I actually got

as well. I got a bunch of Like the week afterwards.

I got a bunch of G the g1 cassettes in the mail

that encore the Set 2 of the g1 cassettes. Yeah,

which is the one with slugfest, right slugfest

ramhorn I'm just trying to remember who else

is in there But I'm I'm just gonna stop here

because otherwise I'm gonna be kicking myself

for not Yeah, if I want to get like better decepticon

cassettes, I would get like the like the original

cassettes Yeah, they're the reissues of the original

right right, but I'm saying if I wanted to get

like the Not the original versions, but if I

wanted to get like the original main characters

that sound like I've had like rat bat and laser

beak and Oh rat bats in the set. Oh, is he? Well,

what I'm saying is I would get that SDCC sound

wave is what I would get. That's just for me.

But yeah, I had ram horn, steel jaw, ram horn,

steel jaw, slug fest and rat bat. So I mean a

fairly good selection. Volume 3 looks like it's

pretty good as well in that that one's got rumble

frenzy laser beak and overkill. Oh, okay cool

So that one's I didn't even know they had the

rumble and frenzy molds anymore given They haven't

used them in so long as long so that was a pleasant

surprise as long as rumbles purple and frenzy

is red That's all I care about Well, it's probably

going to be laid labeled the same way the toys

are but yeah who gets You realize that Rumble's

toy was never that there was never a purple version

of the toy was blue. I know it sucks But yeah,

I said one thing I did though for in terms of

pictures. That's kind of neat is I was just fiddling

around I got a I got tempted by some certain

people on Twitter to pick up one of the final

Bionicle figures the Bionicle all -stars line

Which is going to be the last toy line for Bionicle

And I got a Tahu to go full circle because I

had the original one. And I'm just fiddling around

with his mask right now and putting it on Tails

from my three inch tails. And I can actually

kind of hold on. You just love torturing Tails,

don't you? It's not torture, it's Tails wearing

a bionicle mask. I'd never get into that Bionicle

thing. I don't know, I'd never really get into

it. I didn't either, mind you. Oh, the actual

art for this episode is actually brought to us

by you. I'm going to be using your sheer Transformers

Powerpuff Girls art. Why don't you tell us where

the idea for that came from? Okay, that's simple

enough. I was basically listening to... I'd been

I'd gotten on a YouTube kick of watching old

powerpuff girls episodes essentially And this

is and was listening to yeah I came up with that

while listening to the end credits music in a

loop in a loop and thought okay I need to find

a transformers equivalent of this to draw or

at least come up with I went upstairs looking

at my toys, couldn't think of one. Then I saw

the two RC bikes I had, and of course it became

obvious. And then of course Mojo Jojo, because

of the IDW comics, Mojo Jojo easily became Thundercracker.

And I've done up concepts as well, ideas as well,

for instance, having him as the Fallen. and the

gangrene gang as the constructor cons. I haven't

drawn that last one out, but that would be the

concept anyway. Oh wow, that's too funny. And

I think the mayor would either be Skids or Wheely,

because of Tom Kenny. Because Tom Kenny voiced

the mayor, so you get Tom Kenny character, probably

Skids because of the whole monocle type thing

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