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G1 Jetfire and Soundwave with Optimus Scourge

About this Episode
Coming up today on Transformers Toycast episode
3 G1 themes you will hear Optimus Scourge and
myself discuss two of our favorite toys and You
will hear how to enter the first geek cast radio
dot -com contest So as of right now the contest
starts as you're listening to this episode So
whoever can answer the trivia question email
in to Please enjoy the episode. Hello and welcome
to Transformers Toycast brought to you by the
Geekcast Radio Network. Please visit geekcastradio
.com. In this third episode I have Optimus Scourge
or Gary with me. Hello. How's it going? It's
going good. What's up, all? Nothing. I still
haven't seen the movie yet I may go tomorrow.
I don't know it just depends on What the weather's
like? Yeah, I saw the midnight launch last night
and I saw the Saw the matinee today. It's an
unbelievable movie good plot It did it did move
the long very well, and I don't want to spoil
too much But very good highly recommended it
a lot a lot better than people were thinking
it was gonna be and trying to hate it Ended up
coming out pretty good I mean there was some
stuff that obviously you're gonna either like
or dislike But I mean that's gonna be the way
it is with anything, but all in all I think it
was a fantastic movie, and I'm gonna go see it
again That's about it cool cool well today we
were originally we're supposed to have for a
man on with us we don't know where he is uh...
hopefully everything's are maybe you want to
go see the movie again they don't know uh...
the theme of this episode was going to be g one
uh... and we're going to i'm gonna talk about
sound wave and blaster both but mainly sound
wave and who are you talking about g one jetfire
that movie character That's right And at the
end of this stay tuned for the contest details
geek cast radio networks first contest, which
we will do at the end of the show So why don't
you go first? Well G1 jetfire, which is also
Was originally a toy made by well Matsushiro
originally made the toy but then Bandai bought
them out when they created the Maycross saga
over there in Japan, which we know is Robotech
here in the US. That's why the toy in the show
or I should say the character in the show of
Skyfire had to be called that and had to be looked
like that, similar but different, like more futuristic
because of the anime that already existed. And
obviously the right holders to Robotech were
not going to let Hasbro used their product so
they let them make the toy they changed the nose
cone to be rounded off as Where the Japanese
board version was pointed and stuff like that,
but Jetfire for me was my first transformer for
Christmas in 1984 and I remember him having a
Maycross symbol on his wing even though at that
time I did not know what that meant until I saw
Robotech and I'm like why does he have that and
I didn't find out until much later what it was
a Matsushiro or Jetfire before Bandai bought
them out. They had the contract and the box has
the trademark on the box instead of the circled
registered logo so you could tell it's from 84,
a pre -rub. Anyways He's just such a solid toy
and even to this day. He really stands up to
the test of time I mean you could drop them.
I mean he you know, he wouldn't break. I mean,
he's very solid toy I mean sometimes the shoulders
break if you're really, you know rough with it,
but I mean I still I still have one that's beaten
done and it's like all the joints click really
solid like it's brand new I mean some of the
best joints in the toy robot ever made or in
those you know vf1s style bandai mold jetfire
mold i mean and for me what happened was i wanted
optimist prime probably like every other kid
in 1984 wanted so my dad probably waited it a
little bit too long to try and get him or maybe
he didn't i don't know the demand was probably
crazy though and they probably had no idea and
they were sold out, you know, way before Christmas
and, you know, it was hit or miss if you got
one. So he couldn't find one, so he got me Jetfire.
So at first I was disappointed, but my God, after
having that thing for a couple of days and all
the accessories, all the play options, the playability
of that toy, just without the armor as an F -14,
I mean, he was an F -14, you know? Really? I
mean he was a basically a sky striker from GI
Joe if you're GI Joe Finn You know it and I've
seen people paint them into those really cool.
I wouldn't personally Maybe I would if I had
a free if free jetfire But the price they go
for I wouldn't do it to it So I hold jet fired
near and dear to my heart and next to prime Megatron
and iron hide G1 Matsushiro jetfire minted box
unused on applied is my only box G1 toy that
I have other than the main ones The only reason
I buy and hide is because it's signed by Peter
Cullen Very very cool Yeah, I I didn't as far
as when I got into them it was after the cartoon
was airing and I saw the toys and I did have
an original 84 prime Back when I was a kid, I
died and I have one now. I bought him off of
you Do you have a pre rub prime when you were
a kid? I don't think so. I think I had the the
original Well, no 84 and 85 were the same primes
they and actually 86 was a mail away You could
mail away robot points in 86 for mirage red alert.
I mean a lot of them, right? I never really like
I Since obviously I do TFG1 podcast and I'm reviewing
the entire original show I did like sky fire
in the cartoon. I thought it was really funny
I think it was the and I know this is a little
bit off -topic but in the Aztec episode where
they're around the temple He's like, you know,
I'm too darn big to be sneaking around like this
and I mean, you know He's huge in the cartoon.
I can imagine how tall that toy I will say this
for the character I'm not a huge fan of the character
of the G1 Skyfire. It was okay. But I really
liked the toy. A lot more affection to just the
toy. Because I honestly didn't know him much
from the show. He wasn't in the first season.
He was like one episode maybe. He didn't look
like he should so I think that made me upset
and I didn't know why he didn't look right And
I said that's not Jeff fire. Who's that guy?
It was it was more kind of that reaction to me
I think right if I remember correctly how tall
is the toy? I mean like what what's the size
class? He's about Masterpiece prime tall maybe
maybe a half head shorter Okay, or so roughly
very very cool He might be about 11 inches, I
think. Maybe 12 though. He's very good and bulky.
Very solid. I mean, man, you could throw it at
the wall. If it has armor on, you'd break the
armor. It's one solid toy. Do you have any other
thoughts on him? Before I move on to mine? Can
I edit out that bang? Probably not, but it's
alright. You know, shit happens. Other stuff
happened, sorry. Do you have any final thoughts
on Jetfire? I would say that if you're in the
market for a Jetfire, don't try and get one incomplete
to part him. You can buy the parts, but so many
people, when they sell their Jetfires, they sell
the Jetfire by itself, and they sell every single
other part separately and end up making would
say two -thirds to what to twice the value of
what he should be worth and If you buy him complete
even if it's a hundred and twenty five Dollars
or a hundred dollars whatever it is if you've
got a nice jet fire complete the gun clip is
Useless yes, you can put the gun on his jet mode,
but why would you do it? I mean yeah, it does
hold it there, but I mean I I have my gun clip,
but I've never used it when I was a kid That
was probably one of the first things I lost on
my original hmm, but it was the first one the
first toy I got I end up did get in prime later
on for my birthday or whatever but Anyways, yeah
jetfire was was pretty much it for me and when
he's what started the Transformers and I had
already seen the show before I got the toy Obviously
it came out in this, you know the spring or the
summer the show So I probably had Bumblebee and
Ravage and Rumble or Laser, no, who was it? Laser
Beak and Frenzy or whoever it was. I forget what
the package was and I had the cassettes because
they were cheap. I don't know if the constructive
cons were out yet. When they first came out,
they weren't out till later in the year. Yeah,
I'm not really sure. So we're going to move on
to my pick and here's our transition between
picks. So I'm going to talk about G1 Soundwave.
I'm also going to mention G1 Blaster, but I'm
not going to go into great detail about him.
G1 Soundwave, I always liked him. I always liked
the toy. Obviously, I liked the character in
the cartoon and the movie. It was really, really
cool that you had a cassette deck as a robot.
And the toy, the toy is just... For me, the G1
version is amazing. I believe he's plastic and
metal. I believe his feet are metal, and the
rest of him is plastic. He's extremely show accurate.
There really isn't that much that isn't accurate
on him, I don't think. And I really, really liked
it because you could act out. You know you could
act out the cartoon with your toys Yeah, oh,
yeah, I would sit there in front of the TV, and
I would set up my and God forbid I say this,
but if you grew up in the 80s and you did not
have GoBots, I mean, I'm sure some of you didn't,
but everybody had GoBots too, because they were
Transformers to a lot of us. They weren't official,
they weren't Transformers to me. They were like
the Kmart Transformers, as like a famous movie
once said, clerks for the win. But yeah, I mean,
I had Leader One, I had Scooter, I had Shooter,
I had a lot of those guys because my mom was
going to get me the $1 .99 one versus the $2
.99 one. It was that simple. They were a ripoff.
They didn't have the design team that we had
from Japan. They didn't have these diet clone
designers, and I've heard some interesting things,
not to kind of make it into another segue of
a different character, but Starscream, for example,
like the same guy from Japan has designed every
single Starscream toy. Well, that's cool. I mean,
that's kind of interesting knowledge. Like you
would never think that that would, you would
think that someone else was employed, but Takara
and now Tommy still has the same people there
that have been there forever. I mean, guys like
Aaron Archer from Hasbro, he's been there for
a long time. I mean, he was there before the
fandom is what it is. I mean, he's the ultimate
cool guy. And the coolest thing I like about
him is I don't really know him personally, but
he hangs out with our group at BotCon. And if
you come to BotCon and you want to hang out with
TFW, we're going to welcome everyone. We like
to have fun and go party. Not that we're animals,
but when you're at a show, you're there to meet
people and engage in the love of Transformers
and have fun. And that's what shows like BotCon
and TFCon are all about. Oh, yeah. highly promote
either one of them. TFCon is even to a more extent
on a fan level, very nice and relaxed. BotCon's
gotten crazy because of the popularity. Transformers
in the last two years has gone from who you like
what to yeah, I love Transformers. I mean, half
the theater was fans. All right, maybe a third
was fans with t -shirts, but I mean. You know,
it was all teenage kids in there when I went
to the midnight showing. There were some fans,
you know, like I said, but I was that guy, you
know what I mean? Oh, yes. They're by myself
with Human Alliance Bumblebee in the cup holder.
Watch it. I got a twit pic. Yeah, you do. Follow
me on Twitter at Gary Clark. Gary underscore
Clark 01. Gary underscore Clark oh one that is
yes. Um, you could pass go but you collect two
hundred dollars Going back to some wave a little
bit. I'm looking at a picture I took when I first
got him when I was living in my old apartment
I have him in robot mode and I have buzz saw
with buzz saws little metal guns on the time
that on the like poked into his holes Wow, that
didn't sound right. I've got Buzzsaw on Soundwave.
I've got Buzzsaw on top of Soundwave on his shoulder,
like where his blue mount is supposed to go,
his sound projector mount. This is like when
I first got the thing, when I first bought it
from eBay. And it looks super, super cool. Another
image that I have of him, it's not very clear
because I was still using my iPhone 2G at the
time, but it's an up close shot of him with his
the aforementioned sound thing, like the thing
that plugs into his shoulder. It just amazes
me, even though most of the G1 toys are brickformers
for the most part, they're bricks, Some of them,
like Soundwave and like AstroTrain and stuff
like that, they're fairly decent and they're
very show accurate. I was surprised how show
accurate Soundwave is. I think the only problem
with Soundwave and Blaster is the mechanics for
the arms because there is a metal bar going through
the top. Part of the of the torso on the shoulders
And I understand they needed to put that in there
in order for the arms to move and to rotate But
I think that is the only downside for me on both
blaster and sound wave And of course, it's just
cool to have I mean back then and even now it's
just cool to have But because what looks like
a cassette deck people like oh cool used to love
a cassette deck. Oh, no, just wait This is sound
wave transform him and then all of a sudden you
have you know You have sound wave with his his
you know menagerie of cassettes. I Mean it was
just it was just super awesome The same thing
with blaster. I loved blast. I I think when I
was a kid blaster and sound wave were mine Tied
for number one as far as my favorite toys just
because they were both cassette decks They were
both different cassettes because blaster is more
boombox type and sound waves more of just a regular
Cassette player and then you have all the cassettes
that go with them Don't know why the hell rumble
is red, but anyway Well, no, that was a mistake
There is a huge You know what I'm talking about
anyways and You know They made a mistake on the
card when they made the cards and they made them
at the same time and they miss pack them and
Hasbro chose to not undo it because the cost
to remake a package back then when they were
making toys, because they had to make these toys
before the show, they had to design them, they
had to have the packaging. Basically a year to
two years before anything comes out, they've
got it already all planned out. They have to.
they have to. I mean we don't necessarily know
it to it unless you go to BotCon. You know about
a year what's coming out. We know from BotCon
basically what's coming out up until next summer.
We know classics are coming back which for me
is great and which for me I think this movie
whether you like it or not No offense to anyone
that dislikes that you are entitled to your opinion
and that I don't post much in movie forums or
hate or love the movie. I post on Twitter that
I think it's a great movie. It has its flaws,
but like any other movie, some are considered
flawless, like maybe Goodfellas or something
like that. yeah, but anyway back to toys yeah,
just I Gotta say with classics jetfire I really
like the you know going on to the same toy and
now that he's in the movie and talking about
classics toys just You know, I still think the
g1 toy holds up I mean you could take there is
no masterpiece jetfire if you were gonna make
one you'd make one out of a You know one of the
make cross toys the big ones the 160 right? Yeah
No, the 144s. I forget what that would know.
I'm not sure what size they are Okay, I'm not
sure what size the big ones are but there's huge
ones that are like way bigger than masterpiece
prime They're huge those make for awesome masterpiece
jet fires But you could put a regular g1 jet
fire next to masterpiece prime and he's gonna
look like He's your Autobot regular jet fire.
I mean he can go on that chef If you only collect
masterpieces and classics, for example, and maybe
else like a lot of people do then You don't have
the money for g1 or you only have a few or something
you like or whatever you think the bricks that
that's that's fine, too If you didn't grow up
on it, you don't have the love for them. I keep
mine in a glass case I don't play with them that
much. I mean, I honestly take them out once in
a while for picture opportunities, but that's
it Yeah, they're on display and they're sealed.
They're sealed away from dust. So Yeah, I mean
I'm the same way won't you know once I start
You know getting on my feet a little bit more.
I'm gonna end up making my second bedroom into
my entire it'll be an entire display room I I
need to start getting into the classics line.
I like how a lot of them look And you know, I
I think they're good representations of what
the g1 line was for the most part I would love
to have a masterpiece prime. I don't I would
love to unfortunately cost way too damn much
Right now But you know getting back to the pics
of today's episode just you know If you were
for me, you know Just my own personal opinion
if you're if you're a g1 fan and you're wanting
to get back into collecting Get you know try
to find Blaster and soundwave, but that's just
my opinion. I I think they're two of the best
toys out of the entire g1 line I am crap Well,
what I said was for me, I think that blaster
and sound wave were two of the best toys out
of the G1 line so All right, we are going to
move on I guess and taking us out of the toys
will be sound wave And now details on geek cast
radio's first contest uh... it is going to be
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uh... all answers should be emailed to t f toy
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gmail dot com here is the question if you can
tell us how many voice actors have played optimist
prime in the u s and video games In the US cartoons
and video games and who those voice actors are,
you will win a copy of Shout Factory's Transformers
25th Anniversary Season 1 DVD set. So basically
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Gary underscore Clark Oh one mine is TFG on podcast
Do you have any final thoughts or do you want
to talk about anything else? Well, I don't usually
endorse KOs, but if one wanted to and I understand
the economy is terrible I'm out of a job myself.
So I understand how people feel about buying
a G1 jetfire. I'm lucky enough to have one from
a long time ago that I got before they were worth
anything, what they're worth now. I got my stuff
10 years ago. I was completing stuff like MicroMasters
and Pretenders and stuff like that the last few
years. I collected all the valuable, good stuff
early. you know so not as early as like beast
wars early like uh protoman but um which uh hey
protoman how you doing man yeah yeah protoman
has gone missing i think rodimus prime stole
him that's okay he might have gotten gone into
the matrix uh i'm not sure if he went into the
matrix but i know one person that did do not
grieve soon And I Can't talk I just want to let
everyone know that if you do win the contest
I did open the DVD set only because I wanted
to watch the special features I only watched
it once the discs are in perfect condition. They
come with all the inserts it comes with the magnet,
you know, so You know, good luck to everybody
on the contest. I will read the question one
more time. If you can tell us how many voice
actors have played Optimus Prime in the US cartoons
and video games and who those voice actors are,
you'll win a copy of Shout Factory's Transformers
25th Anniversary Season 1 DVD set. You can email
answers to tftoycast at gmail dot com. As soon
as this episode airs is when the contest starts
and it ends Sunday evening 10 p .m. Eastern No
answers will be accepted after 10 p .m. Eastern
and the first person to give us the correct answers
will win and good luck to everybody So I guess
we're gonna close this episode of toy cast out
Do you like do you have any parting thoughts
for anybody everybody or are you done? Not really
any parting thoughts just You know do good unto
others. Enjoy your toys and we'll see you next
time and Good luck with the contest if you get
it right and Look again next month where we'll
be having another get away. Yes. Yes, we will
We're gonna try to do giveaways every now and
then I don't know if it's gonna be monthly the
what I have Okay, good deal. Okay, good deal.
Keep listening and subscribe to us on iTunes.
In that case, I say it is survival of the fittest!
All right, Toycast is not over, ladies and gentlemen.
We are doing a really quick clip because I forgot
to mention within the episode that Stan Bush
emailed me today and he wanted me to announce
the press release for the Touch Sam's Theme.
Email says, hey Mike, I wanted to send you this
press release. Hopefully you can announce it.
The Touch Sam's Theme is up. The music video
of the song has gotten over a hundred and fifty
thousand plays. A lot of people have been asking
if the song is available on iTunes. Since Transformers
2 Revenge of the Fallen is just released, the
timing is perfect. Praised as the world -class
singer, Stan Bush is best known for his song
The Touch featured in the Transformers movie.
an anthem for Transformers fans around the world.
The Touch has just been re -released as a download
for Guitar Hero World Tour on May 29, 2009. Stan
was the featured artist at Transformers Convention
BotCon at Paramount Studios in Los Angeles. Also,
Hasbro has just released two new Transformers
2 Revenge of the Fallen toys featuring The Touch.
The touch is available on Stan's latest album
in this life named album of the year for 2007
Take care and thanks Stan He did email me again.
I'm gonna have to check it really quick Because
I don't have what the toys are where the touch
is featured. So let me pull that up really really
quick I think it's really cool that that I actually
have an email relationship with Stan Bush. I
mean Christ, it's awesome I'd like to give a
personal shout out to Mr. Stan Bush, if I may.
I met you at BotCon 2007. We hung out at that
bar at all times in the morning with the Hasbro
reps and everything at BotCon 07. We rocked out
at your party. We got thrashed and had a blast
at BotCon, man. I hope I get the chance to talk
to you someday. Big fan, love your stuff, and
take care, man. Good luck. Yeah, and the toys
are the two has bar toys with the touch in them
are ultimate bumblebee battle charged and the
bumblebee Plasma cannon or the two toys that
the touch is featured on so I guess look for
those here in the near future and Toy cast is
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show the Crap all right. Yeah toy cast is done,
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