BotCon 2011 Recap: Panels, Exclusives, and Convention Experiences

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now on with the show This is Toycast and this

is the special BotCon 2011. We are about 48 hours

removed from the final day of BotCon. It rained

June 2nd to the 5th, and I am with Optobotamus.

Hello, sir. Good evening to you. Afternoon, whatever.

Yes. So, you went to BotCon this weekend. I did.

I did, and for those of you that are astute at

noticing such things, I think I left my voice

at BotCon, and it has yet to catch up with me.

So doing this, Mr. Mike, is a strain on my vocal

processors. Hey, I asked you on Twitter earlier

if your voice had recovered. You said, yeah,

kinda. So it's not my fault. There's the kinda

is there All right, so Paul is here to fill in

the yearly I like doing the yearly BotCon wrap

up with one person that is that has been to the

current year of BotCon Because I this is the

second time I've done this the first time I did

it was last year with Michael Wilson Because

what I had him do was I had him go over just

briefly like I don't know, two or three minutes

per toy. I had him go over every single exclusive

from last year's set. So this year we've got

several different topics and Paul's gonna basically

fill us in on several things. This is your first

BotCon, is it not? This is my first BotCon and

if this one is any indication of how other ones

have gone... or will go, I can guarantee you

that I will be going to future Bot Cons. Okay,

Stone Cold. Sorry. I literally just got done

watching before I got done talking. I literally

just got done watching a review for an upcoming

Stone Cold Steve Austin. It's not my fault. All

right, so this being your first BotCon, what

are your impressions overall of first the convention

and then just the social interaction that you

had this year? The convention aspect of things,

while it was amazing and incredible to go to,

it really in my mind took a sidekick approach

to the social aspect of it. The social aspect

was the best. The actual convention itself, I

mean, it was put, I mean, obviously put on by

Hasbro and the people over at the Transformer

Collector Club, and they did a wonderful job,

an outstanding job, and I can't speak highly

enough about how well they did. The panels that

they put out there were entertaining. Thanks

in no part to the people that were participating

in the panels But it was it was it was kind of

a surreal type of thing I I was driving there

and obviously I didn't have as long to drive

As some other people I might I might have been

one of a very small group of people that Just

live outside the area of Pasadena, California.

Whereas someone like P off had to fly all the

way from Virginia to come out here, you know,

and you know, many other people flow. I mean,

Cobra Commander TFW might have been one of the

furthest people to come because he flew all the

way from the UK to come out here for BotCon.

Yep. So the level of anticipation, I mean, I

didn't have, you know, during the journey to

BotCon. I didn't have that long of a journey.

So my anticipation, I guess, didn't really build

too much. I would imagine as Ben's flying from

Virginia over here, you know what I mean? There's

more time for that to build, I guess. So when

I got there, it was kind of like, oh yeah, I'm

kind of here. All right. Now what? The first

day, I mean, there were kind of lulls. Saturday

was the best day to do anything. I got there

on Thursday and the only thing to do really on

Thursday was line up and pick up your package,

your Primus package. Friday kind of was eh. They

opened the dealer room on Friday, and you could

finally get in and see some of the stuff, but

that aspect was kind of... I don't particularly

care for the dealer room. That was kind of hard.

That's because they didn't have any Fort Max's

there. They did. They actually did, but they

had four or five of them. The best looking one

without, I mean, when you deal with Fort Max,

one of the biggest things that you have to pay

attention to is the yellowing of the white plastic

on him. That's one of the biggest drawbacks.

That's something that you can, I mean, you could

buy an incomplete Fort Max and you can piece

it out and you can eventually get a complete

one. There's nothing you can do about yellowing

on any kind of transformer figure or figures

in general. Once they're yellowed from sunlight

or smoking or anything of that nature, they're

ruined. And the best one that I saw there had

no yellowing, but it was going for $1 ,800. And

I basically told them that they can, you know,

go someplace. That's nuts. Yeah, $1 ,800, which

is that that's I mean, Fort Max's is a premier

centerpiece in any collection. But the most,

in my personal opinion, and a lot of people,

the most expensive and sought after collectible

in terms of Transformers would probably have

to be Grand Maps, which is the most rare form

of the Maximus figures, I suppose, that are out

there. That guy will fetch about $1 ,800. Fort

Max is, I mean, $1800 is about $800 more than

average price for him. So that was ridiculous.

The dealer room here was really, really overpriced.

You're walking around seeing Revenge of the Fall,

or not, like Reveal the Shield and generation

figures that are two and three times their actual

value. And it was just really bad. That was a

very negative aspect. I didn't care for the dealer

room at all. If I ever get a chance to go to

BotCon, I will probably most likely avoid the

dealer room because I'm sorry. The dealer room

at BotCon should not be friggin eBay. Damn it.

That's really what it is. I mean, and it's not

even, I wouldn't even say it's eBay because it's,

well, no it is. It's eBay if every single price

was a buy it now. You know in overcharging for

everything I did actually find there were three

figures That I put on on a list of um if I see

good prices for I will buy One was a fort max

the other one was a G1 Scorponok Which I saw

a bunch of those, but I didn't even bother Price

checking any of them because once I saw that

fort max. I was like fuck So I didn't even I

mean because Scorponok is another one that can

fetch several hundred dollars The other one the

other figure that I wanted was a g1 six shot,

and I found one mint mint condition no yellowing

complete fantastic looking figure the only problem

that I Found out about afterwards the stickers

didn't come applied they came on a sticker sheet

still Which was nice, but Because of the age

of the sticker sheet the stickers aren't sticky

There are two or three of them that like half

the sticker has no Tacky or you know stickiness

to it So I had to go to repro labels and I had

to order another set which cost me an extra $16

so a figure that I actually got for 90 bucks

now ends up costing me realistically a hundred

and six dollars which Puts it about the price

range. I thought I was getting a good deal because

$90 was about $10 $15 cheaper than anything I

was seeing on eBay and Now that I had to buy

the stickers for it, and they're not even the

original stickers They're just stickers, but

regardless it now puts it up to the the average

price for eBay so I was a little bit disappointed

but I really wanted a six shot. I don't even

know if you knew, but I was going on and on about

trying to find a six shot for a couple weeks.

Yeah, I saw. But initial impressions of the convention

itself, the convention itself was wonderful.

The dealer room kind of sucked. And what about

the other aspect, the actual social aspect of

being there and meeting up with like Pia and

all them people? That aspect, I've heard people

that have gone to BotCon and TFCon in the past

sit there and say, I just dropped my mouse, sit

there and say that TFCon is a little bit better

of a convention because it's more of a social

event. I had a blast socially interacting with

everybody at BotCon. That made this trip. And

that's why, without a shadow of a doubt, no matter

where BotCon is next year, I am going to go.

Just because of the social aspect of things.

I mean... Hanging out, obviously, with guys that

I'm locally friends with. In terms of names,

I mean, there's Venom711 on YouTube who goes

by Mexibotamus on Twitter. I mean, all these

other people, I mean, all these guys that I've

become friends with locally. Just wonderful to

hang out with them. But then, like you said,

P .O .W. Getting to meet him was outstanding.

I got to meet the Niblett, which she's absolutely

adorable. Yeah, Niblett's amazing. Niblett is

wonderful. I got to meet Ben's wife, and she's

lovely. Obviously, I got to meet Sean Long. I

gave Sean actually a couple. Sean got a couple

hugs out of me. It was very interesting to finally

meet him. Jazz Santi, Rimfire, John 3 .0, who

else was, who else? Like I mentioned, Cobra Commander

TFW was there, that was an honor to meet him.

Nicole Hailstorm, Nicole was there. Vangelis

was there, I didn't get to speak to Vangelis

too much, I never, everybody kept pointing them

out to me after he would already turn a corner.

Gone, I'm like you guys gotta you know it's like

when you're hanging out with a bunch of guys

And I and someone says did you see that hot chick

that just walked past and then when you look

she's already gone It's like you need to tell

them before they're gone So but I oh my god comparing

Vangelis to a hot chick. Oh, there you go Vangelis

Vangelis is a hot chick um but I I did finally

get to meet him off Friday night So that was

cool. I got my picture taken with him. That was

nice. I met Proto Man and he's a wonderful guy.

And some of these people I had preconceived notions

about and I feel really bad because I really

shouldn't have because they're all absolutely

cool in person. The one thing that I find ridiculously

hilarious is that both me and Proto Man for the

Hall of Fame We apparently have a different meaning

of what business casual is than anybody else

in the country, because he and I both showed

up wearing full -on suits and stuff. I didn't

wear my tie, but we were wearing, you know, button

-up, you know, dress shirts, pants, dress shoes,

you know, suit jacket. We showed up there while

everybody else just shows up in like a pair of

just regular black pants. if you're lucky they

were wearing a button -up shirt or a polo shirt

you know and it was funny because as soon as

I walked into the Hall of Fame hall he spotted

me and he points at me he's like and he said

I don't remember what he said he's like we obviously

had the same idea you know and you know he gestures

to his outfit and I'm looking at him like yeah

we're the best looking ones here and I mean it

was it was really cool to meet Daniel really

cool guy I'm trying to think, there were so many

other people that were there. I met Ryan who

owns Cybertron .com and he and I talked and he

was a great guy. Just the social aspect. expected

things just wonderful and like I said my my voice

is gone still from Friday night we there was

the TFW 2005 meetup at the the bar and I Had

a I had a great time My wallet did not like me

too much. I think I ended up I think I ran up

a bar tab of almost or a little over $400. Oh

my god buying people drinks and Just having a

great time It's the I can't even describe all

the fun that was had in that in those few hours

we were sitting there and I would I bought everybody

a drink and I was sitting there and obviously

I was a little bit drunk by this point and We're

sitting there. I mean, you know, there's All

my local LA friends, you know, Ben was there

Couple other people were hanging around and I

bought everybody drinks and I was sitting there

and I was just doing a little bit of a toast

and I just I was like you know all you guys you're

awesome I love all you guys wonderful hanging

out with you and then there was just some there

was some random guy that was there and he was

he was like the TFW guy and I just looked over

him like I don't even know you but I love you

too and everybody was just it was just so much

fun the social aspect Just far and away blew

everything else out of the water at BotCon. Yeah,

you know, the last four years, two of them out

of the four, last year and this year, it seems

like starting last year, it's like, oh my god,

the social explosion at BotCon. Because as you

said earlier, everybody's like, oh, well, BotCon

is mass market. We just go there for the panels.

We don't go there for the social interaction,

blah, blah, blah, blah. Whereas TFCon, it's more

social. You know, last year and this year, I've

noticed, maybe it's just because of the explosion

of Facebook and Twitter, I've noticed a lot more

socializing from everybody the last two years

at BotCon, everybody that I know that is gone.

So, you know, maybe there's a turnaround here.

Here's an indicator. If you look, and I just

noticed this, if you look at the pictures that

people are taking, Predominantly far and away

predominantly. They're pictures of People just

hanging out and having fun. Yeah, they're not

pictures of panels or You know, I mean obviously

I mean there are some of those, you know, but

I mean I look I look at my phone I have Maybe

say five pictures of Peter Cullen when he did

the script reading compared that to 20 pictures.

Yeah, when I was just hanging out with my friends,

you know, you know and to me that's a good indicator

that people are going there to hang out with

the people and Everything else. It's just a bonus

Yeah, yeah. So speaking of the panels, what panels

did you actually attend? I attended now it was

tough to attend them all Some of them seem kind

of lame I mean I didn't want it like I didn't

go to the collector club Panel when they revealed

the I guess I should have because I was kind

of curious about it But they revealed next year's

figures and they showed pictures of them things

that that nature I didn't go to that I went to

the the Hasbro Hasbro toy panel which showcases

toys that haven't really come out yet and Things

that they're working on in the future I went

to the Transformers Prime script reading, which

was out of this world. That was amazing. And

I went to... And I forgot the name of it again.

They actually called it something different.

It basically was a Hasbro toy panel that was

mostly... It was just two people. I'm trying

to think. It was Aaron Archer and... Someone

else. Eric Siebenhauer. Say that again? Eric

Siebenhauer. He was there, but he came later

on. And Eric actually, I actually kind of felt

bad because they announced that Eric is leaving

the Transformers brand. Oh, that sucks. Yeah,

that kind of sucks. He's going on to work for

Play -Doh, which is like, oh, that's an interesting

direction. It's a really strange direction. It's

kind of like something from, and this is the

outer limits. Yeah, it was one of those, you

know, we kind of felt bad. We're like, no, well,

you're not getting fired, but we're moving you

to Play -Doh. Like, son of a gun. But basically,

they talk about things that they're going to

be working on in the future, things that they

want to try to do. A lot of it was comic book

related. not too much not too much toy related

or anything of that nature but it was more from

what I saw from the coverage that the report

that TFW 2005 had put out it was more so about

the overall continuities between everything and

it was more so letting us know about what is

it called exiles the Exodus sequels yeah I don't

know it's called something it's not it's not

Transformers Exodus 2 it's like Transformers

exile or something the new yeah, yeah, so it

was kind of letting us know as far as like how

they plan to Go about doing the fiction even

though they wanted to be one universe obviously

within each universe it has to make sense for

say war for Cybertron 2 or exiles or Future seasons

of Transformers prime right right one thing I

want to point out from the coverage that I saw

people really need to go back and look this up

because Everybody needs to calm down everybody

needs to stop bitching and moaning about transformers

prime bumblebee not being able to talk because

they have a story plotted out of telling how

he wasn't able to write or how that became and

then possibly they said that They may give him

his voice back But what's weird to me is they

said that the reason why they did that for the

cartoon is because they want to be faithful to

the movies Are you kidding me? Well, it's...

They didn't actually... Who said that they wanted

to be faithful to the movie? The TFW people?

It was in the panel coverage. It was on one of

the TFW things. It was one of the notes. It basically

said something along the lines of, with Bumblebee,

they want to pay attention to all the different

continuities, but with his voice thing, they

want to... You know fall in line with the movies

because so basically if he doesn't have his voice

in dark of the moon He's probably not gonna have

his voice in transformers prime season 2 I can

I can tell you that the dark of the moon version

of bumblebee Here's a little bit of a spoiler

so people don't want to listen a spoiler skip

ahead a couple seconds Bumblebee will have his

voice again in in the dark of the moon Not extensively.

His vocalizers are still damaged and it requires

a lot of effort on his part to say anything.

And the way it's described is that it's just

easier for Bumblebee to use the radio to say

things. Because it's not as much of a stress

on his vocalizers. But there are a few times

where he does say things that need to be said.

I'll say that. That's cool. I don't remember

them saying anything about how they're connecting

the two continuities. I'll have to find the paragraph

and I'll send it to you. I believe you. I mean

it's just I don't remember them saying that and

they might have announced that during the Transformers

Prime panel. Well, yeah, I mean that's probably

where it came from because it was basically talking

about Transformers Prime Bumblebee, so that probably

came from the Prime panel. It's very possible,

and when you have Orsi and Kurtzman doing it,

it makes sense that they're going to take some

elements from the movie, bring it into the Prime

series. But yeah, I did hear that there are plans

to address that in future episodes. Yeah The

script reading tell us a little bit about that.

How is that? Like what was that like to attend?

How like how did that all happen? Did they just?

Which did you go to the Stunna con job or did

you go to the transformers prime cast script

reading? I went to the prime cast Script reading

I didn't go to the stunt job one because I didn't

they didn't say who was gonna be reading For

the for the stunt job one. So I kind of skipped

that I was like, I I mean, I don't know who's

gonna be there It doesn't really matter to me

Okay, and it was and they were just reading the

comic book. Yeah the comic that came with the

the set the set itself The the prime reading

they had all the voice actors except for and

and I have both names They didn't have the girl

that did RC They didn't have They didn't have

Frank Welker obviously, I want to say they didn't

have There was someone else that they didn't

have Um Does bumblebee actually have a voice

actor? I don't think so. I don't think so either.

Um, oh Oh, um, oh Shit Ernie Hudson actually

did him uh... well i mean bernie ernie hudson

was there and ernie hudson filled in for the

guy uh... okay and i can't remember exactly who

it was so so wait a second ernie hudson was there

and you didn't get a chance to corner winston

zedmore afterwards he didn't die he wasn't that

he'd be he wasn't available for autographs i

don't think uh... what i did like about i mean

So here we are, first we go in, we're all sitting

down, and we're not allowed to take pictures

while they're in there, which is stupid. I mean,

they let you take pictures when they're introduced,

but when they sit down and they do the reading,

you're not allowed to take any pictures or anything.

So we're all in there, and as soon as they come

in, obviously, everybody just explodes. They

stand up, they start clapping. One thing that

I do have to say, and people have said it a million

times, but I've never witnessed it, is that Peter

Cullen really does kind of sit back and have

this amazement about him that people are so honored

to be in his presence. He's so humble about it.

It's ridiculous to witness it because he sits

there and he almost gets like embarrassed and

it's kind of cute. This little old guy... gets

up there and everybody's clapping and he sits

there and he puts his hands on his chest and

he's just very humble about it. But everyone

in the cast recognizes him as who he is and they

all show him the proper respect that he rightfully

deserves. Yeah, back in the days where they actually

let people videotape the panels, Optimus Scourge,

Gary, he's got a video of Peter at Bot Con 04

and that first part, the very first part of the

video when he walks in, it's almost like when

the people are clapping and he's like bowing

to them and everything else, it almost looks

like he like ... Misses breathe like he stops

breathing for like two or three seconds Yeah

as he is so humbled with all the fandom and everybody

loving him for what he's done over the past 25

30 years Right, you know people just I mean every

say and and and this was the case any time that

Peter Cullen was around I mean jumping forward

we'll talk about this a little bit, but at the

Hall of Fame event He literally got up to change

seats He was sitting in one section and then

he got up to go down into the VIP section to

sit down because they're like, no, you have to

sit down there. He literally got up, started

walking down the aisle, and everybody just stood

up and started clapping. He wasn't doing anything.

He was just walking around. People just started

clapping. But you know, I mean, you got phenomenal

voice actors. I mean, Jeffrey Combs, who has

always been a huge fan, I've always been a huge

fan of him, going all the way back to Star Trek

Deep Space Nine. I love Jeffrey Combs. Ernie

Hudson, who, it was hilarious how several times,

and Jeffrey Combs kind of, they did the script

reading for a recent episode, the one with Skyquake

that turned into a zombie. Shadow of the Zone.

Yes. they did the script reading for that with

you know a few minor tweaks and they're like

you know they were talking about how the um the

the the land or the the space bridges or whatever

you know they like kind of crossed um and had

some kind of weird thing and they kept talking

about you know them crossing the streams which

was an obvious you know joke towards uh the ghostbusters

thing you know and uh every as soon as you know

he just Jeff just kept you know throwing that

out there everybody was just laughing and you

know you could see Ernie over there kind of getting

a little bit embarrassed. He played off of it

because there's a scene later on where Ernie

who's playing agent Fowler calls Jack's mom looking

for Jack. The lady is like well no who is this?

He's like oh nobody um we're just the Ghostbusters.

You know then acts like he hangs up you know

because he didn't want them to know that you

know, Agent Fowler, you know, he didn't, Agent

Fowler, yeah, he was the cover. You know, so,

I mean, he's like, oh, no, you know, there's,

there's just something strange going on. You

know, there, you know, I mean, you know, something

strange in the neighborhood and, you know, that's

it. And it was, it's just funny how they played

off of it. And it was just really well done.

One thing I will say though, is They all up there

and again, I'm really bad with names and P all

is gonna get mad at me because he loves this

guy the guy who plays Jack Oh Josh Keaton Josh

Keaton. Thank you. He also does the voice, you

know for I'm spider -man and Peter Parker and

you know, the in spectacular spider -man Yeah,

correct. And you know, I mean he does a fantastic

job he he's a huge fan just himself, you know,

it was funny because Somebody had asked him a

question. They said, you know, I mean, are you

going to go around to the, you know, the, the,

the dealer room and are you going to be looking

for anything to buy? And he's like, you know

what? I grew up with transformers when I was

a kid and I always wanted to do one Optimus Prime.

And he's like, I never had one. And they're like,

well, maybe you could, you know, you can get

one and have Peter sign it. And Peter's like,

yeah, I would. He's like, I would absolutely

do that. A few minutes later, someone from the

dealer room came running in with the G1 Optimus

Prime and gave it to him. And then, sure as shit,

he went over there and had Peter Cullen sign

it for him. All the actors, it's so amazing.

There was a thing on there where another girl

came up and asked, and I forgot, again, I forgot

the guy's name. I'm so bad with names, it's terrible.

The fellow who plays on bulkhead Kevin Michael

Richardson Kevin Michael motherfucking Richardson

this dude gets up there or so this girl comes

up there and she's from England and she wants

him to do this like I don't know some kind of

promo that took place over in the UK and nobody

else understood it except for him and this girl

and she was carrying with her, you know, those

beer helmets where you put a, like a, with little

cans of beer on the side that you drink in. Instead

of beer, it was Sunkissed Orange Soda. Oh my

God. And asked if he could put it on and read

a line from whatever this thing was. And he's

like, yeah, sure, I'll do that. So she runs up

there. She's all excited. You know what I mean?

And obviously Kevin Mike, I mean, he's just a

cool dude. Yeah, he is. She goes up there, hands

it to him, he puts it on, and he says the line.

But before that, everybody, all the panel members,

they rip out their cell phones, and they're sitting

there recording him doing this. I know. Like,

this is the funniest thing. You know, it's just,

all these guys up there, they're all fans. They

love it. Yeah. One other final quick thought

is the chick who plays Miko is as annoying in

person as she is on the show. Oh, come on. I

love her to death. But she gets up there and

unlike everybody else who just reads the lines

kind of and goes along with it, she gets up there

and she's very hurt. She's got the body language

going. She's acting it out as if it was really

happening. She looks like Miko. She really does.

If you were to take Miko and give her a real

life form, her voice actress would be that real

life form. It was absolutely amazing. Absolutely

amazing. That's funny. All right. So we're going

to take a quick break and we're going to come

back with Paul's thoughts on all of the BotCon

exclusives. We'll be back after this. What's

that Let's find out Okay reflector, let's see

what you can see We are back and it is time to

talk about some plastic crack The way we're gonna

do this is we're gonna start with Paul is gonna

tell us about the five -figure box sets give

his opinions on each character Each figure alt

mode and robot mode really quick and then we're

gonna go through the other 10 11 However many

other exclusives there are Alright, so in the

box set we have drag strip dead end motor master

wild rider and breakdown which is the stunta

cons because this year's was this year set was

transformers animated the stunta con jobs so

when you first got the box set you first were

able to just kinda likes like after you got home

after the convention like is obviously during

the convention you don't have time to really

you know think it out. When you first got all

the stuff home, what was your, when you opened

the box again, what was like, just, I don't know,

start from the top, start with Dead End. What

was your opinions on Dead End, alt mode and robot

mode? Well, first, you say that we didn't have

time. Well, okay, the reason why, because every

time you used Screamer, every time you were on

video, you were talking with Maximus or you were

talking, you know what I mean? There wasn't really

time for you by yourself to just sit down and

look at the toys. I mean, well, yes and no. There

were, the first thing, well first, as soon as

I got my set, you... You go in there, now my

pick up time was 9 o 'clock that night. So I

find, I did not, well that's when I was allowed

to line up, I should say. It started at 6, and

subsequently each, each, you know, like our new

lines would be allowed to form. I didn't get

mine until, I didn't actually physically get

my set until about 11 .30, so. I was hanging

in line. There were still people lined up waiting

to get theirs. I got lucky because you line up

to get your badge in your, you know, whatever,

you're in one line and then once you get into

the room where the badge and the box sets are,

then there are now multiple lines based on the,

you know, like A through C is in this line, D

through E is in this line, and it goes down through

the alphabet. you're all in one huge line and

then you funnel into another line because my

last name was R for some reason that line was

going ridiculously fast so I was actually only

in the line for like I said about an hour and

a half not too well I mean the original line

the original line I was there for about an hour

Then once I got to the alphabet line I was only

in there for about an hour and a half So it wasn't

too bad, but a lot of people were waiting You

know two and three hours once they got in there

to be separated by their last name Once I got

my set then you're allowed to go to the club

store You have to have your press or you have

to have your badge to be able to go into the

club store to buy the exclusive figures Which

is another line so while I'm in the line for

that I was able to open up my box set and take

a look at it. My very first initial impression

was, holy fuck, I forgot how to transform these

things. I picked up Dragstrip, first of all,

which is a repaint of the animated RC figure,

and I'm like, and everybody was making fun of

me, even people in the line who knew who I was.

They were making fun of me because I... couldn't

figure out how to, I couldn't remember how to

transform her. And I'm like, guys, I haven't

transformed this figure in like two years. Give

me a break. You know, I mean, like cut me some

slack, you know, but eventually I got through

them. Subsequently through the rest of the time,

there were, this set actually had a lot of QC

problems, sloppy paint jobs. I think God dog

from TFW. He had one of his autotroopers actually

didn't even have a head so Huh, I said, oh, yeah,

so I mean there were some QC problems. Um, the

the worst ones were um via the Galvatron figure

and I think toxitron those were the ones that

had the worst QC in terms of like, you know sloppy

paint, you know chips Parts not, you know staying

on very well things of that nature. I mean, I

I was very lucky I only had one problem with

my box set and that was um, and I forgot the

guy's name though the one who is um I think it's

is it Wild Rider the one that yeah lockdown repaint.

Yeah wild The the cannon on his hood The one

of the cannons wouldn't stay in You know like

if you fold them back one would constantly keep

popping out so that kind of sucked But my initial

first impression was that they were absolutely

gorgeous looking I Mean you wanted to start with

dead end then yeah, yeah Dead end it is car mode.

I've always liked the car mode the mold itself.

I think is a very solid solid look Obviously,

I think the colors work very well for him. Robot

mode, I think he looks really cool. I love his

little mustache. It's just, I mean, here's his

little like goatee thing that he's got going

on. It's a terrific looking figure. I mean, all

of them look better in person than they did in

pictures. A lot of people were hard on the motor

master, his head. In person, it looks a million

times better. Yeah, it does. I mean, it's a much

better looking figure in hand. And the colors,

I think, are fantastic on it. The whole box set

is really nice. One thing about it, it comes

with a little pin, a BotCon pin, which I don't

think I knew that it came with that. So as soon

as I opened it, I'm like, oh, that's neat. I

really like that little touch. The set's wonderful

looking. It's an absolute wonderful looking set.

The box I thought was really pretty too. Yeah

and the box is awesome. Very nice. It's one of

those ones where I almost wish I bought the loose

set of the figures so that I could keep my box

set, keep them in the box, display the box, and

then have a loose set to display around the box.

You know and I mean I probably could get a loose

set. I I know that there are some people um I

I actually think my friend Panzer Jedi has a

loose set that I was originally gonna buy from

him But then he's trying to sell it to Kal -El

Prime That falls through I might I might buy

the loose set from them just to have it cuz I'm

kind I'm kind of a Regretting not picking it

up while I was at the convention Alright, so

moving on to Breakdown, which is a repaint of

Rodimus' mold. I personally, in pictures and

even seeing the pictures that people have taken,

I still don't like those colors on the Rodimus

mold. I just don't. Those are just two weird

colors for me. But what do you think of Breakdown?

The color the colors are actually I mean they're

accurate to how breakdown was yeah, I Don't I

I don't know who they could have done a better

job using For breakdown then the the actual Rodimus

mold So it doesn't bug me that much I think I

think it looks good. I like the new head on them.

I think it's really nice if If I were to if I

were to because this the Rodimus mold was used

twice in this year's set You have breakdown and

then you have the exclusive Side swipe side swipe

figure. I kind of like side swipe a little bit

more But only but only barely Yeah, but but I

do I do like the I do like the overall look And

then in robot mode, you know breakdown I Think

he comes together a little bit better In terms

of his walk, yeah, it's it's it's okay What about

drag strip Well, like I said drag strip was the

first one that I opened out of out of the box

or and try transforming them and I did I Eventually

figure out how to transform that sucker I think

she looks great. I know a lot of people were

kind of complaining. I mean, I'm still not a

big fan of the big giant spoiler thing, but that

goes all the way back to RC. But it's, I mean,

it's a little bit too big and a little bit too

gaudy. But again, it's a smaller kind of thin

looking car, which I think nicely depicts how

the drag strip looked in G1 being that it was

like a Formula One race car. I think it's a nice

use of it. I think most people are past the whole

conspiracy about Dragstrip being a female now.

I didn't hear that joke at all at BotCon. I think

it's kind of over and done by this point in time.

But I wouldn't have minded if they did use one

of the heads, like one of the new heads or whatever,

if they could have put one of the new heads on

Dragstrip. To to change it from a female to a

male. I Don't think that would have worked though

with the body The way that that body is that

wouldn't work. Well only only because it's got

robo boobs Yeah, and it's got a robo aft as well

Interestingly enough they talked about um, you

talked about the uh, well, well, we'll talk about

this later. I Don't want to jump ahead What about

Wild Rider? Wild Rider, you know, I like the

way it looks. I'm not a big fan of them using

the lockdown mold on it. What else could they

have used? I don't know. I'm just saying, I mean,

I just don't think it fits too well. Don't know

it's I mean it's a good -looking figure, but

it reminds me more of the the the psycho blitzwing

personality You know especially with the face

the face looks okay, but I mean it looks too

much like bits blitz wings Yeah a little bit

well that that kind of turns me off And last

but not least, the leader, the motor master.

What do you think of motor master? I think people

need to stop bitching that he wasn't ret guard.

I think he looks fantastic as this Optimus Prime.

The head on there works. It looks even better

in person. And I don't even really think pictures

do it justice. Hopefully my video review will

do it better justice There you go All right,

let's talk about Physitron and the auto troopers

that were repaints of him What do you think of

Physitron? Um, I like the way he looks. I think

I love the new head on it. I like the colors

They're a little bit, I think I used the term,

a little bit garish in their look. But it works.

It looks really nice. It's a... Now I don't follow

any of the comic book continuities. So I don't

know too much about this. But everybody is saying

that it's a direct... I mean his name is Physitron.

But it is Iron Fist. from the Last Stand of the

Wreckers comic, which that's what everybody's

saying and I'm gonna have to just go along with

it because I don't know at all about it, but

his bio supports that apparently. And I think

it also is supported that his name is Iron Fist

in the BotCon comic. Yeah, which is weird because

it's in the comic, they call him that, but then

the figure is Physitron, so it doesn't... Don't

know maybe it's copyrights who knows iron fist

um they couldn't call them iron fist because

apparently there's a Marvel character Yeah named

iron fist. I that's one of the things that I

heard so I think it looks wonderful. I I will

say that I think the autotroopers look better

I Really like the head obviously still on there,

and I just think the colors look better the black

pinstriping, the white plastic, the blue highlights

with the windshield. I just, as I was going through

editing my video, I mean, I honestly do say that

the Auto Trooper is my favorite figure out of

all the figures from BotCon this year. It's my

absolute favorite. I just think the paint on

it is wonderful. I mean, and it's not cheap.

It's not a cheap looking white like, If you look

at like the reveal the shield jazz which has

a very kind of I mean, that's a very white figure

the white on the autotrooper is just Immaculate

in my in my opinion. It's it's bright. It's vibrant.

It's just a gorgeous gorgeous coloring and that

I I Really do think it's my favorite figure out

of all the figures this year Awesome Let's move

on to what could probably be the bad exclusives,

Galvatron and Action Master Thundercracker. Yeah,

they're probably the weakest, and it was weird

because they were also the most expensive. That

two pack, I think it was $92 for the two of them,

and while Galvatron has grown on me, I really

do like the way Galvatron looks that Galvatron

will take its place on my classics shell as Galvatron

and Yeah, it's probably the best Galvatron. We've

ever gotten out of the classics universe Generations

thing right absolutely. I mean okay. Yeah, he

turns into a helicopter which and whatever you

can complain about that and But the coloring

on him just looks really, really nice. Yeah.

Really nice. Thundercracker, on the other hand,

instantly when I... Well, number one, he's action

master, action master base, and he's G2. Yeah,

he's action master G2 shattered glass Thundercracker,

and oh my... Which basically means you have to

invert the colors and then invert those colors

and then invert those colors. And what you end

up with is what really does look like a knock

-off transformer. It absolutely, without a shadow

of a doubt, looks like a knock -off transformer

and I'm very disappointed in that. Yeah, it looks

like the worst tie -dye job in history. It's

kind of like if you could imagine what rainbow

bright diarrhea look like That's the coloring

that went into the action mask a thundercracker

Oh my god, I mean it's really bad, but you know

what's weird is that's also one of the figures

that was selling out In terms of eBay and stuff

and selling the highest and quickest mean I had

I when I first got mine on Saturday I I mean

I bought I actually bought a couple after the

fact to sell them because they were selling for

so much um they my very first auction for it

sold out in about 45 minutes from listing it

and it sold for $150 so it's Wow, that's that's

nuts It's a seeker. I know it's a seeker That's

that's all it is. But the most expensive set

was probably probably the weakest in my opinion

and Let's move on to the what I think is actually

the best exclusive said that they've done over

the last couple of years Toxitron and Sideswipe.

Toxitron is a repaint of the Optimus Prime Voyager

mold and Sideswipe is a repaint of Rotomus. Correct.

And one thing that I absolutely love is the bio.

The bio for Toxitron is wonderful. He's described

as being the first attempt at using an Autobot

shell for the Decepticons. And it's like, you

know, when they tell stories about people that

are cloning things and things of that nature,

when you clone things too much, the later you

go, the more convoluted it is, a little bit more

screwed up. it ends up getting. And that's how

they describe Toxitron. So their first attempt,

he's a very convoluted figure to the point where

he will constantly just drive around backwards.

He's like Mater. He just drives around backwards.

They said he's got a severely stunted intellect.

that what they learned from him allowed them

to go on and create the Nemesis Prime and Motor

Master. So he's the first attempt at cloning

and didn't go too well. Now, I love the way he

looks. He's outstanding looking. The only problem

that I have is his neck coloring. Like this bright

neon color and then the rest of his body is a

different color. I wish that they would have

picked one and stuck with it. You mean like on

his shoulders where his head is? On his neck.

oh okay um yeah that's always been a problem

with the Voyager Optimus mold from animated I

noticed that with the actual original Voyager

Optimus where like his arm would be the red that

is always is but like on his neck and like his

shoulders like where the the truck cab opens

up to get his head out It's a different it's

almost like a faded red on the original and I

think that's the same thing that they did there

It's just it's so weird. Yeah, so I wasn't too

big of a fan of that But I love the way he looks

too. I think and his light piping He's got this

awesome red light piping which is just super

creepy and very cool Sideswipe, I love how I

mean he's based off of the g2 sideswipe and looks

fantastic. I love how the storyline has him,

he's the perfect companion for Cheetor, who's

coming out later on from the Transformer Collector

Club, and they're police officers basically.

And the thing that's really kinda cool is the

side swipe in this set, they say he's very by

the book. He's learned a lot from his reckless

years when he was younger. And I like how it's

basically sideswipe, but an older version of

him. Older and wiser, it seems. Gorgeous looking

figures. Both of those are really nice. And I

really think that the sideswipe one, using the

mold, or Rodimus, is just a hair better. I would

so agree. Like, if I had a choice between Breakdown

and Side Swipe to actually own, I would go with

Side Swipe. Yeah. No, I would agree with that.

I would agree with that. But nice looking set,

though. I do like that set. That's actually,

I mean, I'm keeping one of my auto troopers.

Because I'm not an army builder, so I'm getting

rid of two of them. One of them is actually going

to Callie from the Puggle Formers. I'm trying

to get her to make Puggles of my cats. Yeah,

I saw that conversation. Yeah, so we'll see how

that goes. And I'm only keeping the Galvatron

from the Galvatron and Thundercracker set. But

I'm keeping both Toxitron and Sideswipe. I like

both of those. Yeah, they're very, very awesome.

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rise up! Alright, we are back, and the final

thing that we're going to talk about is the Hall

of Fame ceremony. What was it like this year?

It was actually kind of nice. It was in a, and

I can't remember, it was in the Pasadena Convention

Center Hall or something like that, where they

actually... It was explained that that was the

very first place that Michael Jackson ever did

the moonwalk. Emmys have been, you know, like

the awards show have taken place there. It's

like a 90 year old building. So, I mean, there's

this great history when you go into this building.

It was funny because it was described as being

a business casual setting which to me maybe it's

because I come from a corporate background. Business

casual means for me a suit but without the tie.

That's how I envision it. Most people go there

wearing polo shirts. Some people were wearing,

you know, I mean they were basically wearing

like collar shirts that were kind of tucked in

but weren't really fancy or anything like that.

So it was kind of weird. I know Proto Man and

I, we spotted each other and both of us were

wearing suits. We kind of laughed at each other

and we both agreed that we were probably the

best looking ones there. It was a really nice

thing. It was $45 which was kind of... Kind of

a gripe for a lot of people because when you

got in there they handed you a goodie bag that

had a bottle of water in it a small little bag

of stale popcorn What else was in there? And

people got like I got a bag of M &Ms. I think

people got other kinds of candy But that was

really kind of it and people were like okay $45

for this And really was, you know, kind of a

negative point there. And then we get in there,

we're sitting down, we're waiting. Oh, and you

also got to wear the real D, either you could

choose between Optimus Prime or Bumble Bee, the

3D glasses. Oh yeah. They gave you those as well.

You get in there, you sit down, they started

about a half hour late. It was supposed to start

at like eight o 'clock, and then it started for

like 8 .30 or something. All the executives were

there the the the president of Hasbro was there

the Aaron Archer who's like the vice president

of Transformers brand blah blah blah blah. He's

got a big long title He was there. He was doing

a lot of the introductions and things of that

nature and they they introduced They started

off with the the inductees for the the robots

Which was really cool Let's see what else then

Then they had a little thing for Steven Spielberg.

Who was the human inductee? He wasn't there at

the event, but he had a video obviously for us,

you know, thanking us and everything Then they

introduced Michael Bay Michael Bay came up Give

a little gave a little spiel about how before

he got involved with Transformers. He hated Transformers.

He never really liked them Then we got to see

a Basically, it was a 15 minute. Well, no we

got to see the first five minutes of the movie

And then another like 10 11 minutes basically

was just a trailer With stuff that we hadn't

seen yet Just kind of like clips, you know sporadically,

you know from the movie taken sporadically from

the movie, but it was basically like a trailer

It was shown in 3D. We watched it. Almost everybody

there that I spoke to agreed that what we saw

looked fantastic and amazing. The 3D on it was

probably the best 3D that we had seen on any

3D movie yet. I mean, it was... They showcased

a lot of scenes like the whole swirl suit where

the humans are flying through. That was all shot

in 3D and that all looked spectacular. Absolutely

spectacular. After the clip we got the final

Inductee which was fan selected. And they were

really kind of, they had fun with it. With the

whole erector thing. I'm so glad that bullshit

is over. I agree Luckily a waspinator was who

won out of the out of the fan selection and And

they you know they they jokingly went along with

it. You know they they did a whole video spoof

You know talking about you know a mock -up history

of him and things of that nature But subsequently

later on the next day Aaron Archer was in a panel

and the you know, like the futures panel or whatever

you want to call it and People asked the bottom

and he's like, you know, we had fun doing it,

but we really want the Hall of Fame to be something

serious and If you the fans make a joke out of

it, it will make this into a joke Yeah, and he's

right. I mean, it's it's nice. It's kind of like

my my pet peeve of people running one joke into

like constantly telling the same joke over and

over and over again. He's right. I mean, you

know, I heard, I think I heard this from Frodo

Man a while ago. Frodo Man said they tried to

do a Hall of Fame a number of years ago before

this one that's currently happening now. And

it didn't really take, or people turned it into

it. Yeah. If you turn something into a joke,

then... The company's not gonna put money into

it if it's just gonna be a joke to everybody.

And they really want to do something like this.

I mean, this is a brand that's going on almost

30 years that's been around. And they want to

put some legitimacy to this and really give it

a sense of honor to be inducted into this Hall

of Fame. And when you make a farce out of it,

you know, by, you know, let's have a rector.

That was absolutely... ridiculous and and when

they would announce it there'd be people it was

funny because half the theater would be booing

at it and half its theater would was cheering

for it and i'm like this is the stupid there

are people walking around with banners you know

trying to show support for it you know and they

said you know we had fun doing this but let's

not do this again please so i was glad that was

over with and um In all in all, you know, I mean

it was it was a nice thing to go to People did

complain because last year, you know, you got

a dinner this one you didn't When you did leave

they gave you another bag of goodies that have

like some posters in there You know small little

I don't even know if they're you know, maybe

they're like 10 by 11 posters or something like

that But they're not they're you know, nothing

too big But it was it was it was nice to go to

not worth $45. So my only thought is maybe they

had to pay Michael Bay's appearance fee. You

know what really occurs to me though, if they're

going to do this every year, why not work that

price into a Primus? Not to make the packages

cost even more than they already do, but If you

buy a Primus package, you're going for the full

experience of the convention. Why not find a

way to work in the Hall of Fame dinner as or

ceremony dinner, whatever. You people know what

I mean, right? Why don't they work that into

the package? Well, no, no, I can see where I'm

failing here is because you have the people that

are general admission. Well general admit general

admission. I think they could have went to the

Hall of Fame thing, too That's well, right, but

that's what I'm saying. That's why they have

the X instead of Including it in a package price

and not selling separate. That's why they sell

the set the Hall of Fame stuff separately is

so I I would I would say the best way to do it

in You know include you know or I'm building

on your idea is if you want to buy the Primus

package Get a little bit of a discount on the

Hall of Fame like instead of $45 Maybe not only

is $35 if you get the whole thing. Yeah, so that

protoform packages and Mini -com packages and

general mission people can add that up Yeah,

then or on they want but it's more effective

to get the primus because it'll be a little bit

cheaper. Yep You know, so I mean all in all it

was nice But without a doubt, it was not worth

$45 this time around. But it was fun. Yeah, you

guys had a lot of fun. Yeah, a little bit too

much fun. You're paying for it. I told my fiance,

and she's like, OK, well, that was your bachelor

party then. That ain't fair. You don't get married

until November. You can't have me having my bachelor

party now. That ain't right. All in all, it was

a very good time. It was amazing to see so many

people from so many different places internationally,

people that I've known. I think Proto Man actually

mentioned this as well, that it was finally nice

to put some faces to the names that we've known

so long. It seemed like a lot of new people really

went to this. And I really hope that it still

keeps on growing, even after the movies. I'm

just wondering what they could do next year for

a set. That's, that's my only thing because they

did say in one of the panels that they are. I

think the, I don't know if it was the TCC panel

or if it was the Hasbro toy panel. They said

they're done with animated. They're not doing

anymore. Animated exclusives for BotCon. So I'm

just wondering what the hell could they do now?

They said that if Brian from BotCon or from the

Transformer Collector Club that they can come

up with something and Bring it to them and it

works with the existing molds that they have

they will do it Yeah, they will do it, but they

got to come up with something obviously. Um next

year what I can tell you what was said Was um

because next year will be the 25th anniversary

release of the movie the transformers animated

movie from 1986 I thought that was this year

well Yeah, yes, and no I mean it's like kind

of in between because it came out like now so

anyhow but What what they said was what are the

odds? of getting Rekgar as a troop builder for

a future BotCon exclusive. And they said the

answer was above average. Which to me kind of

hints towards them possibly trying to work that

into more than likely next year set. That's my

guess. My mouth is... That could be very interesting.

This is putting some stress on my mouth and throat.

You know, and they still haven't announced, they

still have not announced where 2012 BotCon is

going to be. I like that because I know they

had that drawing for people to win trips to next

year. Right. I like them not announcing because

last year when they announced it at the dinner,

as soon as the hotels went on pre -order, they

were filled for this year. I don't think they

should announce it the year before where the

next one's going to be because that's not going

to give people enough you know enough of a chance

to even try to get to go if the especially like

someone like like say it's I don't know say it's

in New York or say it's in Florida again say

it's out there on the on the on the west coast

or something you know it's not going to give

people like me a chance to even try to book anything

because if it's already filled well you know

that makes no sense I like how they they they

give the people that attended the event the opportunity

to uh Booked a little bit of in advance as as

a you know a nod a thank you to coming and if

you want to go to next year Here's a little bit

of a you know a bone that we're throwing you

Well, yeah, that's fine for people who attended

the event and that's great. But no, I I know

I know there and announce it and then Put wherever

it's gonna be have the hotel put the crap up

and then things sells out, right? No, I understand

but I will say Most places, wherever you go,

there are hotels around that you could stay at.

While I stayed at the Sheraton, which is where

the actual convention was, Pia stayed at a Hilton

that was like two blocks down. There was a Pasadena,

it was called the Pasadena Inn or something like

that, where I think Nicole and Andy stayed at.

I mean, there are plenty of hotels that are around

the surrounding areas for wherever it is that

you could be able to get a room. I mean, anybody

who wants to be able to go missing out on it

because there aren't any hotel rooms is probably

lowest on the on the list of true. Well, it's

true. But I do understand what you're saying.

You know, I mean, I I'm happy that I stayed at

the actual hotel or the convention was because

it I was able to park my car and it was parked.

Kind of annoying because I could have paid like

nine dollars a day as opposed to thirteen dollars

a day because I paid thirteen dollars a day for

a pass that lets me go in and out as much as

I want. The nine dollar a day pass was just nine

dollars a day, but you couldn't leave the parking

structure at all. As soon as you left, you were

done. Oh, I could have just parked my car for

nine dollars a day since I didn't take my car

anywhere. You know, but I mean, that would have

saved, you know, 16 bucks off of my total bill,

but you know, whatever So oh no, you had a really

great time and you're gonna go next year. I Without

without a doubt. I want I want to go next year.

I'm gonna do everything in my power to go next

year and This really was and and I think a friend

of mine mentioned that this is the most fun that

I've had Since I was in high school And that's

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