Powers of Grayskull
Temple of the Sun, Wizard of Stone Mountain, Dree Elle’s Return

About this Episode
and the Masters of the Universe! I am Adam, Prince
of Eternia and defender of the secrets of Castle
Grayskull. This is Cringer, my fearless friend.
Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the
day I held aloft my magic sword and said, By
the power of Grayskull! Hello, this is Optimus
Solo and welcome to the seventeenth chapter.
in Tales of Eternia. With me for this journey
into the Masters of the Universe franchise, as
always, is none other than TFG1 Mike himself.
Hello, sir. Hello. Your tongue twisted in time.
We haven't had this podcast going for a while
now, but we're back. A lot of stuff has happened
since we put the show on hiatus. A very great,
the creator. Filmation. Lou Scheimer passed away
last year. May he rest in peace. I never got
the chance to meet Lou or anything like that,
but I did see the special features where he was
talking about fan conventions on the original...
God, I'm flashing on the stupid company's name.
No, it's the company that put the DVDs out. Yeah,
BCI, there you go, thank you. Yeah, on the original
BCI DVDs, there was a feature where Lou talked
about conventions and the fans and all that stuff,
so it was kind of sad to hear that he had passed
away. Also, another reason why the show has been
on hiatus for this long, oh boy. Since the hiatus,
we've had to switch from Netflix to Hulu in order
to watch the episodes because Netflix got a bug
up their butt and said, hey, we're not gonna
have He -Man on Netflix anymore because we need
to make room for better stuff like Breaking Bad.
Nobody cares. And because I've moved like four
times since the hiatus, my DVDs are still in
a box somewhere, so... I was going back and forth
on if I was going to buy the updated version,
etc, etc, but I want to just have the original
ones, but I think I only have half of them. The
original BCI releases, no offense to Mill Creek,
but the original BCI ones are the best. Yeah,
that's the ones I want. I only have half of them,
I believe. So for me, watching, because as we
all know Netflix doesn't do commercials, they
just do it like a DVD break, like a black screen
break. Uh, Hulu, however, on the non -pay version
of Hulu, the free version, has like little 30
second ads, so it's kind of interesting to see
where Hulu puts the ads to break up the cartoon.
Some of them are more than 30 seconds, some of
them are like 90 seconds. It's annoying. Well,
I mean, if you really want to be annoyed even
more, watch them on... They used to be on Cubo,
or RetroTV, or one of them channels. He -Man
and She Were Both are still on TV and syndication
now. And I saw that and I was like, what? But
the quality is so bad, I don't know... Like the
DVD quality is really good, the Netflix quality
was really good, even the Hulu quality is impressive,
but the TV quality that those networks have to
air them now, every time I see the Battle Cat
part of the transformation scene, I cringe. And
I don't mean that as a pun at all, because it's
just bad on television. I don't know why. long
last ready for the powers of grayskull yes yes
I am all right well in this episode of tales
of Eternia we will be giving you our thoughts
on episode 49 temple of the Sun episode 50 yes
50 wizard of stone mountain and episode 51 tree
elves return so we hope you're ready because
it's finally time to go back to Eternia but have
a proper throne Is that not so, my feathered
friend? Sarsurus, can you hear me? Prince Adam,
I hear you. I am weak and very far away, and
I am chained. Where are you? What happened? I
was flying over the sands of time when I felt
the presence of magic below. I tried to investigate
when I... I was knocked out of the sky. Are you
hurt? Just weak. Sorceress? Sorceress, come back!
Come back! Temple of the Sun? I lost her. We
start today with episode 49, Temple of the Sun.
It was aired on Thursday, November 10th, 1983.
The writer was Jeffrey O 'Hare. The only episode
that we've had of his before this was Eye of
the Beholder. And the plot goes a little something
like this. A poor man named Neptune limps across
the sands of time in search of the Temple of
the Sun. Inside, he claims the Scarab of Power,
a magical jewel. The Scarab's power transforms
Neptune into a muscular, dominating being. Neptune
uses the Scarab to capture a Falcon flying over
the sands of time, which happens to be Zor. The
Sorceress contacts Prince Adam through telepathy,
revealing her location, the hero's journey to
the Sands of Time, and must not only rescue the
Sorceress, but also overcome the many obstacles
that Neptune unleashes upon them. We have our
general main Masters of the Universe involved
in this one. We don't have any of the evil warriors.
So before we get to the PSA, what are your thoughts
on the plot of the Temple of the Sun and the
whole Neptune in the Sands of Time? Okay, you
have... Skeletor, Evelyn, Beastman, Merman, Clawful,
Trapj... You have all these evil warriors that
you could use. And they have in the past used
evil warriors that go off on their own and have
plots without Skeletor. We've seen that before.
Why in the world do we need a Villain of the
Week episode? Seriously? And it isn't even villain
of the week because back then it was villain
of the day because these were running four or
five days a week. So it's like, oh god, give
me a break already. The beginning of the plot,
I assume you wrote this out yourself. I don't
think you copied this from anywhere unless I'm
incorrect there. My secrets cannot be revealed.
I'm assuming you wrote it out yourself, but it
is never really explained that he is looking
for the Temple of the Sun, except when he says,
ah, at last, I've found it. The first we see
of him is a dying old man walking in the desert
looking for a glass of water because he is so
thirsty because he's walking in a friggin' desert.
And then all of a sudden, he has great joy that
he's come across the Temple of the Sun by accident.
Oh, God. Meet this plot. I don't have a problem
with the plots as much as I have a problem with
some of the stuff that happens over the course
of the plot You know fine. We got this old guy
limping across the desert searching for magical
jewel of course we had magical artifacts And
what every other episode so that's not a surprise
You know that he transforms into this being and
that you know I kind of has to figure out if
we can Basically save him from himself and let
him learn the errors of his way. I mean that's
all classic storytelling etc My problem comes
more in with the execution of how they did things
I mean I could have dealt with that plot if it
would have been a perfectly done episode But
when it's not and then you have a halfway decent
plot that's done wrong it kind of but we'll get
into more of that in a little bit. As far as
the PSA, it's all about being a leader and not
following leaders blindly, which I guess had
somewhat something to do with the episode. You
know, I guess that's a good lesson. Don't just
be sheep and whatnot. I don't know, how do you
feel about the PSA? Well, he, he want, he man
says he wanted to be a leader and he just, instead
of being a good leader, he... And what did he
really lead? He led pieces of sand. I mean, it
wasn't even a real friggin' army. Yeah. You know,
pieces of sand and a giant scorpion. Or whatever
the hell that scorpion lobster looking thing
was. You know, I understand if the PSA is meant
to teach children and adults about being leaders,
but using... Nep who as an example Not a good
choice. Well, yeah, he wasn't really they didn't
know a hundred percent fit because he was never
a leader He was just a singular guy Who got powers
and then did things on his own? So he was never
leading a group of people and he was never following
nobody was ever following anybody blindly So
yeah, the PSA is a good message, but it had really
little to do with this episode So Anyways, we're
gonna try to turn things positive we're gonna
try to say some good things that find some good
things we can say about this episode and For
the first time in a long time. We're gonna make
the trek over to the castle grayskull Do you
know where she is the sands of time a place called
the temple of the Sun? We've got to rescue her
We? Count me out. I hate sand. It gets in my
eyes, in my claws. Sometimes you get it in your
mouth. I hate that. Sorry, you big furball, but
this is something beyond our mere mortal powers.
Besides, there's nothing to it. By the power
of Grayskull! I know you don't enjoy this, old
cat, but there is a quest for us. I know, but
every time I turn into that bad old cat, you
get me into some kind of trouble. I'll make a
deal with you. I'll go with you, but as cringer.
Maybe I can bring some common sense to this quest.
Alright, my feline friend. When you change your
mind, be sure to let me know. Fat chance. Alright
so we have arrived at Castle Grayskull and unlike
Neptune we have plenty of water so we have no
fear of that. As far as our highlights or our
Castle Grayskull moments, I'll go first because
it's not going to take me very long. I did have
written down here that I like that it was somewhat
of a decent simple story. My problem was not
with the plot. I'm fine with the old man trying
to get power dealing with it. losing his power
etc that's fine um that is not part of the problem
with this episode and as far as a moment that
maybe i liked the best on the episode um i believe
it's the first time we've ever had cringer make
a deal with he man with prince adam slash he
man to stay as cringer um and that he goes along
with the episode Being Cringer, I thought that
was an interesting twist to that whole character.
Yeah, it is. The only other time we've seen him
in a dangerous situation as Cringer was the time
where he or someone nightly was killed or trapped
him in that glass box and he had to save him
and right jump that way that was the only other
time that he was in a situation but this is the
first time we've ever seen him actively say oh
no i don't want to be battle cats it's the first
time he's actually so he always tries to avoid
being turned into battle cat this is the first
time that he successfully convinced it He -Man
to turn him into battle. And then obviously there's
some consequences from that action as we go throughout
the episode and I just thought that was a great
part of the episode. What were your moments that
you had at Castleberry Skull? It has nothing
to do with the story. It has nothing to do with
the one -off character of Nephthu. It has everything
to do with Cringer and Adam and He -Man. That's
all my notes are is Cringer, Adam, He -Man. Cringer,
we sand in every crevice ever. And then Adam's
like, sorry a big furball. I just, I love their
friendship and the way that their relationship
is between Adam and Cringer. It's just really,
really well done. Who wouldn't want a Cringer?
Exactly. You already mentioned Cringer wants
to go on a quest. The whirlwind. That was funny.
Granger got caught in the whirlwind. That was
funny. Oh, yeah. And he knows, deep down he knows.
He is no cat. He is no battle cat. And he's like,
I'm going to hate myself for this. Yeah. And
then science lessons, yay, sand into glass. Oh,
we'll talk about that in a minute. Yeah. But
that was what I had. All right. So those are
the good things about. Temple of the Sun. I'm
sure that discussion will be a little bit lengthier
as we make our way for the first time again in
a long time, down to the treacherous Snake Mountain.
Something is missing, my fair falcon. I know
what it is. If I am to be lord over Eternia,
I should have an army! An army to conquer the
world! So, we find ourselves... in Snake Mountain,
and even though it has been a while since we've
talked about He -Man, one thing apparently has
not changed over that time span, and that is
that Zor, slash the Sorceress, is the weakest
magical being in this whole franchise. Once again,
Zor the Weak shows up, and it drives me insane.
Just once just one time. I want her to be just
like nope my power stronger BAM. You're done
never happens It's always somebody overpowering
her Well Okay, I I understand your point, and
I understand why you dislike it, but this isn't
one of those times where She's traveling with
the Masters. She's off by herself Looking into
something because she thinks she can handle it
And she's flying as the Falcon, she's flying
as Xhor, so it isn't one of the things where
it just makes me really, really mad like it has
in the past where it's like, hey, she's the sorceress
outside of Grayskull, at least they kept the
fact that she had to stay being the Falcon. But
yeah, I can kind of see it, it just, I don't
know. There was also an editing blunder. There's
a wind scene where He -Man enters the scene twice.
Oh really? Yeah. I must have missed that. So
I just noticed that. That was kind of a weird
thing where he seems like he enters the scene
twice. If they were trying to do something else
I don't know what that would have been. I'm sorry,
what did He -Man just do with that tornado? He
moves it off into space. No, hold on. Since when
can we physically grab on to a tornado? It's...
We defy the laws of physics and science and common
sense because he man just literally Manhandles
a tornado That's not the first time he's thrown
stuff into outer space. You know his staff in
the outer space Yes, that's true Going with your
science lesson there. He even gives us an explanation
of how he's making this glass But are you freaking
serious? Nobody could recreate that Nobody could
do what he just did with the sand and the sun
and everything and make glass. And then not only
did he make a little, you know, it's almost like
when you're out in the wilderness and you see
people like trying to start a fire and they're
rubbing sticks or doing this, that and the other.
And usually you just get, you know, a little
spark or just a tiny fire. Okay. So we're using
basically the same concept to make this glass,
but he doesn't just make a tiny bit of glass.
He's making the whole huge window panes, sheets
of glass. Yes, even as a kid. I I hope that I
was scratching my head at that point and being
like, I'm sorry what Well, I and hopefully I
didn't go outside and try to do the same thing
When I said silence lesson, yeah, it was more
so the fact of his explanation I like that he
gave the explanation and actually explained it
because maybe physically that is at least possible
and like the tornado holding It was more so like
the size of glass that he made and just how quickly
it was done and it just did not like that part
And then an interesting thing because they find
themselves Inside that one place. There's no
doors on it So they're trying to find a way out
I believe my memory serves me correctly. No,
they're trying to find a way in and he man just
makes a door Yeah, but my question is how did
the bad guy get in there to begin with? The skylight
Arms drops the ropes down. It was just like there
was no door so they couldn't get in but there's
somebody in there So how'd they get in? Like
they designed a place with no doors, but somehow
I was inside it I don't know. That was just a
little weird odd moment for me that I was like,
hmm You know, it's fine that they set up this
dilemma that there's no doors How do we get in
but then you got to explain how the other person
got in there? What about you snake mountain moments?
Well, first of all, I gotta go back to Castle
Grayskull for a second because I do want to mention
something I believe it was this episode because
this is the episode with Kringer. Did you notice
the unstocked animation of the transformation?
When Kringer says, I know I'm gonna hate myself
for this, and He -Man's like, okay, here we go.
By the power of Grayskull, when he says that
and he's holding the sword like he always holds
the sword in two hands, It's not the castle behind
him, it's the regular background. It'll be a
picture in the post because I grabbed it, but
that was interesting how they did that instead
of having the standard transition or the standard
transformation scene with the blinding white
light behind him. They just had the regular background
and they basically infused him with the energy.
I mentioned it earlier. the guy wants water that's
all we know he's he's been walking in this desert
for days upon days or whatever else then all
of a sudden he's overjoyed at he's found this
template it doesn't there's no narration nothing
there's every narration in this series other
than the psa but there's no narration saying
what he's looking for what he's doing in the
desert know nothing and all of a sudden boom
he's happy he's He can make it to the temples
to get this jewel. Are you kidding me? If you've
been traveling in the days in the desert without
water, you're not going to be able to crawl into
a damn temple to get this powerful jewel. Oh,
God, that's just shitty writing right there.
It really, really is. And his name is the worst.
character name I've ever heard so far in this
series. Nepthu. I assume it's supposed to be
something like Cthulhu, but I wrote down Nephu.
N -E -P -W -H -O. Because I don't think this
guy ever comes back. And they set the plot, they
set the end of the plot up so well that he doesn't
really have to come back because the sorceress,
after the thing was destroyed, she remade it
and he's now the gardener. And the whole time
that I'm thinking about this, the whole time
I'm watching this, recently I've been watching
a lot of investigation discovery channel and
I watched a show on there called Behind Mansion
Walls where it chronicles rich people and sometimes
poor people becoming rich and vice versa, etc,
etc. And the whole time I'm watching this episode
I'm like, why does this feel like an episode
of Behind Mansion Walls? Because it's just like,
he was poor, he had nothing, and now he has all
this power and he decides to use it for evil!
If it wasn't for the Cringer moments and the
Adam and the He -Man moments with Cringer, this
episode would get a straight zero for me. I know
we're not to ratings yet, but I'm just saying
that right now. This episode would get a straight
zero if it wasn't for those moments. We will
see exactly what we do rate this as we move into
our award and ranking system section of the show.
I think you just imagined you heard a call for
help. Now can we go home? Attack track, shouldn't
we be coming across this temple soon? I have
is only superficial. It is not a lot to go on
for locating the temple It's been a long time
since we handed out any award so we're giving
out power swords and Havoc staffs for those that
remember and I will start here I do have an award
to give out and That is a power sword and I'm
gonna give it to Cringer for standing up to He
-Man for once I Agree same here the only hardware
I'm giving out in this episode and it's well
deserved to Cringer Any other ones besides that
one? I'm gonna give two Havoc staffs. So the
writer, sloppy, really sloppy writing. And to
nep through himself. I know you said it's classic
storytelling, but I'm sorry. Does every story
as soon as some weak and poor character have
to go the evil route really? Yeah, they do do
that a lot they do pick on these like helpless
people and just making the wrong choices It just
pisses me off. All right, sir. So you said you
weren't given a zero So what rating do you give
this episode? And like I said Cringer saves the
day but the rest of it kind of sucks so it gets
a one out of five orcos That is harsh harsh way
to start back up with this thing Alright, I'm
not too far off from that. I'm actually going
to give it two and a half Battle Cats right in
the middle. I think I had potential. It could
have been better, but there was just some things
with the glass and the tornado and just a lack
of execution. Like you said, the cringer in Prince
Adam slash human aspect was the best part of
the episode, but most of the other parts of the
episode fell flat. So I'll stick it right in
the middle at two and a half. Alright. Alright,
well let's see what our milestone episode 50
has in store for us. The power of love. Another
day wasted in this lonely tower me Malik the
mighty wizard of stone mountain held prisoner
by the memory of the one I love Beautiful Tila
We have reached a milestone episode episode 50
of the he -man the Masters of the universe series
and that episode is wizard of stone mountain
Air date was Friday. It's how we ended our week
back on November 11th 1983 and The writer was
a combination of Janice Diamond and Paul Dini
which we've seen a Variety from both of these
individuals So I'm not going to go ahead and
list them all as far as the plot Malik the lonely
wizard of stone mountain has fallen there was
in love with Tila over the years. Wishing her
to love him as well, Malak makes a deal with
the evil Locus. Locus begins to cause destruction
in Malak's name, and Malak is powerless to stop
him. He man and the heroes arrive to stop Malak,
but the wizard captures Tila and forces her to
spend time in his company. As the pair argues,
Locus reveals to Malak that the deal he initially
made has a far deeper price. Once again, evil
warriors are absent from this plot whatsoever.
We do have an additional master that shows up
besides the regulars, and that would be Ramman.
Ram -Man really could be a regular. He is regular,
but he's not in every episode, so I like to mention
when he does show up. Yeah. But yeah, he is one
of the regulars that's just not as frequent as,
say, Madden Arms or Orko, etc. I couldn't help
but think of, with this plot, and Malek and Locus
making a deal of the Little Mermaid, and Ursula
and Ariel making a deal. I was thinking more
of The Devil's Advocate. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's
probably more apropos. But yeah, it's interesting
because we do get to see some things that maybe
I've been requesting. in a way, which we'll get
to when we get to Castle Greyskull. As far as
the plot goes though, we basically have someone
from Tila's past who had a thing for her, kind
of like a scorn to love her there because she
didn't reciprocate the feelings. So because he
wants that back, he makes a deal, deal turns
bad, involves Locus, and then kind of a weird
thing because it's also involving the evil spirit.
but at first you think it's just a deal with
locusts i missed the whole evil spirit part but
that character comes into effect later because
it is two separate characters voiced by two separate
people um yeah and you know obviously the whole
plot is basically about trying to force something
that you want even though other people don't
want it and the consequences that has when you
try to force that upon someone So what did you
feel about the plot? I know you're not one probably
for the love stories I know this is a milestone
episode 50 that you probably could expect more
from but if you take all that away What do you
just feel about the plot in general? I'd rather
watch attack of the clones before this again
attack of the clones That's right, even though
the love story in that sucks all the hell this
is worse Well, it's not really a love story so
to speak in this one because it's just yeah,
I know I know it's not but it's it's just It's
unrequited love the whole time that mr. Wizard
there What's his name? Mr. Wizard there, what's
his name? He felt like To me, he felt like Anakin
from episode three. I can see some connections
there. Like the end of it, when he was like,
you bitch hate me! Blah, blah, blah. Um, I don't
know, the plot, everyone knows by now we're 17
episodes into the show. Everybody knows that
I loathe Tila. At least in this continuity. Um...
And... I just... I don't know. This episode was
really, really unneeded and they could have put
this anywhere. For a 50th episode, I would have
expected something a hell of a lot better. And
this is, I think this is more Janis Diamond than
it is Paul Dini, because not a lot of storytelling
as far as I can tell is Dini style. Yeah, it's
hard to say. But yeah Mike is obviously not a
big fan. We're probably gonna agree to disagree
on this one as far as the PSA goes It's sooner
or later. You have to answer for your actions.
Basically is the gist of it as to what I got
What did you get from the PSA? Same thing. It's
just your average Lesson of the day. Yeah, you
know any neat These things, when Shimer and company
created them, they were because they wanted to,
I don't know if it's because they wanted to or
because the network said, hey, in order for you
to have an action cartoon, you have to do this.
And that's kind of what it was back then, I think.
So he wanted them to be lessons that us as kids
could really learn something from on a daily,
five day a week daily basis. But it's an alright
lesson. It's not like any of the lessons we've
had over in Mast Mayhem, thank God. True. Now.
Alright, well, that means it's time to talk some
good things about the Wizard of Stone Mountain,
so let's make our way to Castle Greavesville.
This is it, Orko. I've had it with your silly
parlor tricks. Sorry, Duncan. I must have gotten
my spells crossed. You've got your spells crossed.
Why you... Wait a second, I can fix everything.
Hey, what's going on? What's going on? I've got
a blizzard in my workshop. That's what's going
on. Alright, time for our Castle of Grey Skull
moments for episode 50, Wizard of Stone Mountain.
First off, I did appreciate that it was a unique
story. It's not something that we've had repeated.
I can't think of any other episode that was quite
like this. So at least it's something fresh and
unique and a different type of story, whether
you like it or not. And I can't... Fault the
episode first this next part because it's been
something that I've been begging for for a long
time And I'm always trying to get more information
on Backstory for any character. So yeah, this
isn't maybe what I had vision as far as the type
of backstory information I wanted but we did
get some slight backstory for Tila Some stuff
that she was doing before we knew her, you know
in this role and you know what was going on while
she was Doing that and getting courted by this
guy at center. So we do get some slight backstory.
So I appreciate that And then I got to say I
love the Ramman moment When he walks off with
Tila and he says hey when you got it you got
it. I Thought that was funny coming from Ramman
as as the unexpected person that Tila walked
off with That moment kind of has it's good and
bad because it also really unrealistic and it's
not something that is serious. It's just a joke.
So as long as you take it, it's just a joke.
Unrealistic for which character? What's that?
Unrealistic for which character? Well, I don't
know. Maybe Ramman has a thing for redheads and
maybe Tila has a thing for short guys. But it
was just a joke, but I found it funny, especially
that they gave Ramman that line because it seems
like something that the kids wouldn't even get
him saying when you got it, you got it. But those
are some of my Greatest call moments. What about
you? You know, I ran man on a chandelier. That
was kind of funny. Yeah. I do appreciate the
backstory, but the backstory reminds me of any
old World War Two movies. Where after the war
the husbands come back and The wives are expected
to quit work going back to be he says in the
beginning of the episode She was meant to be
my wife not go off and join the cat, you know
be the captain of the Royal Guard That is so
40s talk It's so degrading to women it really
really is and I know we're not the snake moment
yet, but I Ram man on a chandelier. That's all
I got. Alright, well, sounds like you have some
stuff to discuss at Snake Mountain, so we better
make our way to that location. You black -hearted
villain! Prepare to defend yourself! Alright,
sir, we'll continue your thoughts now that we're
at Snake Mountain. What do you have to say? Who's
writing this episode? Oh my god. Janice Diamond
and Paul Dini is a masterful writer. He really,
really is. But if you really look at Wizard What's
-his -Nuts, he's the ultimate chauvinist. He's
more of a chauvinist than Casey Jones was in
the TMNT 1990 film. I just didn't like it. The
other thing was... Have we asked before, and
this has nothing to do with the actual plot of
the story, but have we asked before, or have
you mentioned before on the show when there have
been times where He -Man should not know something
that Adam knows? I think we've talked about some
of that earlier on in episodes. It happened again
here, like Tila's old boyfriend line. Oh yeah,
it was like it was common knowledge for everybody
to know that. Yeah. And all this love scorn crap
needs to go this is supposed to be an action
cartoon damn it there hasn't been much of it
Well 21 minutes or so 21 minutes to money Master
of fear. So you are the scarecrow. Oh god, that
was the worst like when when what's Locust or
whatever his name is I like that character He's
a cool -looking character. He's got a cool voice
and when he said his master I thought for a second
there Skeletor hired out He outsourced I thought
he really did and then all of a sudden we get
this giant flame thing out of a Fireplace that
didn't exist. It was like hey Tim Allen's coming
down the chimney. Wait, we don't have a chimney
do we? Such a clause in this episode. That was
definitely weird when we had the spirit of evil
where the spirit of evil and we hadn't even been
introduced to him before and then all of a sudden
he's there. So that was kind of weird, a little
bit jarring, which also led to one of my moments,
which is He -Man is stronger than fire. Like
so far we've had back -to -back episodes, one
where he has manhandled a tornado and basically
been stronger than wind. And now he's stronger
than fire because apparently there's like It's
almost like he punches fire Can we get back to
human being stronger than actual physical things
And not these like elements. Are we what's next?
He's gonna battle water in the next episode No,
we've already had that I'm sure And a little
bit, too. I don't mind a love story. I don't
mind that there being some type of romantic element.
I mean, we do have some female characters, etc.
So that's fine. But don't ever have a plot point
be that the way we're going to battle this evil
or this spirit or win this thing is through the
power of love. That's all I could think about
when they said that. They literally said the
words, the power of love. Give me a break. I
don't need the power of love being an actual
physical thing that can battle anything. Like,
love story or minor love tones to an episode,
fine, but love is not a magical power that's
going to overpower some other power. I know that's
a lot of power. but you know this is the power
to bring skull yes with he man versus the thing
the monster the fire monster whatever the hell
we're calling him i don't i didn't see it as
he man punches fire like you did i saw it more
so like what the what the thing said the thing
is evil incarnate and he man is is like The best
person in the universe or the mighty, you know,
the person with the most good in the entire universe
and etc So I saw it more of the as a good versus
evil battle But it what you're saying about it
does you know, he man punching fire? Maybe maybe
he's the fifth element. Maybe he easily lose
secret husband or something. Who knows? Are any
other snake mountain moments for you? No. All
right. Well, let's get to award time then Thanks
for watching Alright, it's award time, sir. So
for episode 50, Wizard of Stone Mountain, does
anybody get the pleasure of being handed a power
sword or the displeasure of being hit with a
Havoc staff? As much as I hate to do this, but
it's more so for Janis Tymon than it is for Paul
Dini, but the writers get Havoc staffs because
I'm sorry this this felt like an episode out
of the 1940s with the whole being degrading to
women of oh she was meant to be my wife not go
out into the workforce etc No 80s cartoons did
not need that kind of message. Any power swords?
No. Alright. I got one of each to give out. I
will give a hammock staff, not just to the writers
because I don't know who came up with it, just
in general because I've seen it in this series,
I've seen it in other series and or movies or
whatever, a hammock staff to the concept of the
power of love. Yes, love is a powerful thing
and can bring a lot of people together or can
conquer all etc etc But it doesn't actually have
physical magical power So yes Havoc staff to
the whole power of love thing I don't think I've
ever given a Havoc staff to a concept but There's
a first for everything episode 50 where we're
turning new stones over Power sword though to
Ramman because in this episode Ramman was a PIMP
Yeah, he was a player in management position
As far as episode rating I would have given this
a slightly stronger rating and because it had
a unique story I have a slight bit of backstory
for Tila I liked everything basically about the
episode until the power of love So that knocks
it down for me from what would have been a four
out of five I will knock it down a half step
to a three and a half You one one One orko for
Mike. One orko. We will agree to disagree. I
don't think it's that bad of an episode. Outside
of the power of love. It's the power of love.
It's... This whole... I know this concept was...
It had to have been around before the 90s. It
might have been here the first time I really...
The guy is emo as all hell about his love for
Tila. And then what makes this episode worse
is the ending, where we find out that his assistant
loves him with all of her heart, soul, being,
whatever the hell, and then all of a sudden they're
just together. Which, I should have had that
in my cast, in my Snake Mountain moment. Okay,
dude likes Tila. Tila does not like dude. Fast
forward, guy's assistant is ten times hotter
than Tila. Loves him. And he's blind to it? Dude,
I should have given him a Havoc Staff for ignoring
the Havoc Assistant. You can still do it. Get
with it, dude. You pick Teela over that girl,
you're crazy. Mr. Wizard, you are not. Oh Lord.
Alright, so we have hit a milestone. Episode
50, we will see what the next 50 have in store
for us. There was nothing I could do. Trapjaw
and Clawful had a laser ray. They blasted their
way right through the vault. And they found the
Horn of Evil? Yes, Triel. They knew all about
it. They said they were going to use it to control
Eternia. I've got to get to the Royal Palace
and warn Orko. But Eternia is in a different
part of the universe. How will you get there?
Orko left me his magic pyramid. It will take
me to him. Hey, sis! I want to come too! I don't
know. This is serious. Please, please! Alright,
yuckers. But none of your dumb jokes. I promise!
Right, the next 50 begins with episode 51, Dre
-L's Return. We're also starting a new week.
The air date would have been Monday, November
14th, 1983. The writer is Robbie London. This
is his seventh episode so far that we've discussed.
Listen carefully to these titles. We've had Diamond
Ray of Disappearance. We've had Disappearing
Act. We've had Dawn of Dragoon. We've had Double
-Edged Sword. Then you have two that don't have
any Ds in it. Obese and Sideshow and The Royal
Cousin. And now we're back to Driel's Return.
This guy likes the letter D. But again, we gotta
also mention that maybe it was just the episode
he was handed. Because back in those days, I
don't know if there was... I think they made
their... For a lot of the times, they wrote their
own episodes and then just submitted them and
then people chose which ones to go ahead with
and which ones not to. But that's just me. I
have a funny thing for alliteration, I guess.
But some of these episodes were good episodes,
so you know Robbie London is a decent writer.
As far as the plot for Driel's return, Driel
and Yuckers appear on Eternia, warning Orko that
the Horn of Evil has been stolen from Tralla
by Clawfall and Trapjaw. At Castle Grayskull,
the villains use the Horn of Evil, overpowering
the sorceress. Orko arrives and takes the Horn
of Evil from the villains. Orko and Yucca are
captured, but Driel escapes and informs Adam,
Cringer, and Tila. The heroes manage to defeat
the villains, but Yucca accidentally activates
the Horn of Evil. And then we'll get to that
last part here in a little bit. As far as how
they solve their problem. Let's just get to the
plot of having an episode in general where we
see a reappearance of Driel. and the Trilunds
being returning to Eternia, the whole Horn of
Evil, and that has powers that can overpower
the Sorceress Setter. What did you think of the
plot in general? I liked the plot in general.
I always liked seeing Drael. Not so much this
new dumbass character. We also saw a third trial
and they all had different letters on there because
the other one just had like a T and the Yuckers
has the Y and Orko has the O which I never necessarily
had put together that I just thought he had just
an O or you know whatever on his thing it's just
part of the design I didn't know it was necessarily
supposed to be for Orko. Oh yeah marketing, Mattel,
oh yeah. They all have a letter representing
him. Yuckers had a Y on his cape and The other
child had a T. So, I found that interesting.
I don't remember the... Oh, was the other...
Right at the beginning, the one that was holding
the, like, the gatekeeper guy that informed them
that the horn had been stolen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was Montork. No, that wasn't Montork. That
wasn't Uncle Montork? No, no. It was just a general
generic, like, guard from Jolla. Oh. Okay. Huh.
Yeah. Uh -uh. Uh -uh. Um, I always liked seeing
Dre -El. Um... Yonkers felt like... watching,
um, Curly Joe Besser. It's really what it felt
like. But as a kid? Uh, yeah. Like, really, really,
really bad. It's like... Um, it just... I don't
know. I like the episode, I like the plot for
the most part, but it's just so generic. I found
it interesting that we had, you know, an artifact
this time that was being safe kept in Trala and
that somehow Clawfall and Shabdra doesn't really
explain how they got there and how they stole
it and how they get back but interesting that
they have this artifact that's being kind of
safe kept there and that the evil warriors are
getting it from there to bring back and that
that's how they're gonna use it so that part
I had no problem with and bringing characters
back is always usually a good thing unless they're
like super annoying which Driel is not. Your
drill is not because it's a love story for or
go and I don't mind the love story for or go
I just last episode I couldn't believe Anybody
wanting to have a love story with Tila? Yeah,
so we have love story backed up by another love
story I do like the part of the plot that that
we have like the annoying little brother coming
along because that we haven't seen a lot and
he man we know we've seen annoying cousins and
this and the other but to have like the little
annoying brother of another character um that's
not like i said it's not 100 unique but it's
somewhat of a unique plot line for he -man so
i don't mind that um i just have a major problem
with the ending part of the plot but we'll get
to that um and i should mention that for the
first time today we've had some evil warriors
appear like we mentioned it's a clawful and trap
draw that's the only two we see but it's a welcome
uh site Since we haven't seen any at all today,
and we do have a random appearance of King randor
I I don't know what it was about the episode
I honestly don't remember even seeing him, and
I just watched this before we started recording
It was just like a random spot, so it was kind
of weird and the PSA was all about playing safely
and To be careful because you might blow a horn
of evil and unleash power that can overpower
the sorceress I guess I guess playing safely
is a good thing. Since it's part of the plot,
let's talk about what the Horn of Evil releases
out of itself to conquer the Sorceress. Black
smoke. It's that or it's that creeping dread
thing from 50 episodes ago or whatever it was.
The creeping Horak or whatever the hell it was.
Horak creeping. Yeah, it was definitely an interesting
weird ambiguous thing that didn't really get
explained except for it made things evil Yeah
But whatever how convenient for the plot the
lyrics are right friggin there on the friggin
horn and that Before we go down that Nasty rabbit
hole. Let's try to find something good to say
at Castle Grayscale. In your shower, approaching!
There it is! Jumping Jupiter, it's much bigger
than I thought! Attack track, can you destroy
the meteors? You even need to ask? Just tell
me when to fire! Fire! Nice shooting! Naturally!
There's one more to go. Malfunction. Machine
broken. Lasers will not operate. There's still
one meteor left. It's heading right for the city.
By the power of Grayskull! All right, well I
am going to go first at Castle Grayskull because
I basically have already talked about all of
my good moments and that is I appreciate... The
return of Driel and the Tralons and different
personalities like that, that's cool. I appreciate
Clawful and Trapjaw being involved, and I appreciate
the Little Annoying Brother plotline for being
somewhat unique. Those are the good things about
the episode, Mike. I like Driel's return. I could
do without the little brother, although I did
like when he got his just desserts at the end
of the episode. I thought that was really good.
Well, I too should say that I like the fact that
the little brother being the annoying one allowed
Orko to be the more mature. There's nothing that
Orko did wrong in this episode. Oh, and no, not
at all. So I liked Orko in this episode. I'm
surprised you didn't praise the sense of humor
of Attack Track. Oh yeah, I did like that. Attack
Track was funny. That was awesome. And then poor
Cringer, he has to get up and go to work twice
in one day. Yeah, after avoiding it at all, the
first episode we talked about made up for it
in this episode. Oh yeah, but that's all I had
was those two. I mean, there was good stuff we
talked about. Good Attack Track, Orko, Trapjock,
Clawful, Driel. Character -wise, we're doing
good in this episode. Storytelling -wise and
plot devices, not so good. No. Let's get more
into that. But to do so, we need to travel to
Snake Mountain because bad things cannot be spoken
at Castle Grayskull. um yeah i have short and
sweet ones well go over your short and sweet
ones what the hell kind of name is yuckers yuckers
what the hell kind of weapon is the horn of evil
lame uh yuckers is annoying but he's not as annoying
as some of the cousins that we've seen before
yeah that's true Why are the villains working
without Skeletor's knowledge? Now I know we've
seen this before sometimes, but usually we would
see maybe one or two times like a scene at the
end where they go back with their tails between
their legs to Snake Mountain, yet there's nothing
of that here. Or a scene at the beginning that
shows why they're doing it. Yeah. So yeah, that
was kind of out of nowhere. Yeah, because the
storyteller just said they broke in, they stole
it, and they left. And we get no telling of how
they got there. Yeah That is one annoying lady
gag me song was like hey Lady Gaga in the 80s
yay That song was so fake sounding first of all
It was I don't know why they didn't just have
the voice actors just and wasn't like they were
singing for real Just have them sing the damn
song on the mic instead they dubbed in a song
that clearly sounds like it's not coming from
those characters. It's a terrible song. The freaking
whole idea that the solution was for them to
grab the music off of the Horn of Evil, which
consisted on the one shot of three notes. They
just had a piece of paper with three huge notes
on it. And then for Keeman to be like, oh, I
need to blow into the other end. Well, now we're
just getting into stuff we don't want to talk
about on air. But that was just weird. You had
to reverse blow into the horn and then sing this
ridiculous song. That whole part of the episode
ruined it for me. Yeah. If you're going to have
a return of a character like Driel, do something
with her other than this. I mean it was fine
if they would have came up with some other solution
other than her and Orko doing a duet that wasn't
even real. Yeah. I like how they have this whole
like thing and how it's they sing the song and
everything's blah blah blah and then we have
a random trap job moment thrown in there at the
end. Like I didn't even know he was still in
that scene and then all of a sudden he's at the
end being like What what has he been doing over
there the whole time? Um, I just found he's been
trying to get stuff plugged into his arm because
that's the that's the only thing he can never
get his attachments to work Well, then he tries
to get a fly swatter. Come on now. Um, I thought
I thought it was a spatula. It's a fly swatter.
Same thing. Um, sometimes used as as one in the
same. Um, I love how it's so I mean, I'm saying
this as a bad moment, but I love how it's so
prototypical Cartoon where the bad guy clearly
has a chance to do something and just doesn't
do it It's about four times when he even says
he even tells us all I need to do is blow in
this horn one more time Well, then frickin do
it Yeah Nobody's stopping you right now. This
is not a moment where we need to wait. This isn't
like oh I could I could capture this person but
i want to use him for this or all i could kill
him and but i want to spit in his face and taunt
him first it's nothing like that this is all
i need to do is blow in the horn i'm holding
the horn there's no there's no purpose there's
nothing to gain for me waiting but i'm gonna
wait and not do it right now that bugs the crap
out of me i don't care if if bad guys miss the
chance because they're vain because they wanna
get that one little witty comment in there or
because they wanna use this as something to gain,
but to miss your chance for it, no reason whatsoever,
was silly. Alright, I'm done ranting. Anything
else? That was... yeah, no, I... I wish they
would have had more of an adventure. If Dreella's
gonna come back and she's gonna go all gaga over
Orko and they're gonna have their little lovey
-dovey story, well, I like those characters and
I like that they're... what unquote together
even though they live two worlds apart um i wish
it was something other than the little brother
screws everything up and and then the villains
come in and i just wish it was something else
i really do but at least yucker's got a pointy
hand instead of a baseball cap to end the whole
thing all right let's see what we have as far
as awards and rankings Don't worry, Triel. You're
safe with me, and... Triel, run! It's only me!
That wasn't funny, Yuckos. It was downright mean.
A joke isn't funny when it frightens someone.
Alright sir, for the last time today we get to
hand out some hardware. Power Swords are Havoc
staffs. Do you have anything to hand out? I'm
gonna give a Power Sword to Orko and Driel together.
Not for the song, but as a couple. And Orko,
they're kinda like parents to Yuckhead. So I
did like that, but that's about it. I will also
give a power sword to Orko because it's a rare
occurrence where he does everything right in
an episode. Nothing annoying, no tricks or spells
that go wrong, no hijinks, he was... Wait, didn't
this one start off with a spell? Well, stuff
with the man -at -arms, but like... Yeah, oh,
okay, yes. For the plot, he didn't do anything.
For the actual plot, he doesn't mess anything
up or complicate anything. So for that, I give
him a power sword. I don't have a Havoc staff
to hand out, even though I could give it out
to whoever put that song together. As far as
ranking goes, you have given the first episode
today a 1 orko on Temple of the Sun. And a 1
orko on... 1 orko for Wizard of Stone Mountain.
Driel's return must get better than 1, right?
2. He's upgrading to 2. The only reason why it
gets a 2 is because D 'Riel returned. And there
were a couple of cool moments with Cringer. Briefly.
And Orko. Orko was really good in the entire
episode except for the beginning part where he
was his normal goofy self. But we're used to
that with him in Man in Arms at this point. But
yeah, no, I mean the plot to me felt very generic.
It felt like I've seen it many times before in
the last 30 -something years that the shows had
been on and gone. Yuckers is annoying as hell,
even though he did learn a lesson. Really, like
you were saying, there's no real plot for the
villains other than... There's no explanation
to the plot of why the villains stole the thing
other than the general thing of, hey, let's...
Go steal this powerful item that we never even
knew anything about because Skeletor didn't tell
us and let's go to the Castle Grayskull and let's
destroy the Sorceress without him even knowing
anything about this. I like that we have a lot
of characters that we haven't seen in a while,
Driel, and we have some actual evil warriors.
Horco's doing everything right. You know outside
of the terrible ending this again would have
got it better I had two episodes in a row that
I would have rated better if it wasn't for the
ending I knocked the other one down from four
to three and a half. I'm gonna knock this one
down to a three You know it could have been a
three and a half or a four without that song
moment But it's going down to a three for me
So it's all middle of the road for me with a
two and a half a three and a half and a three
today So we are going to take a quick break and
we'll be back with our overall thoughts and the
closing of the show Today we met Nepthu, a man
who wanted to become a leader and became one.
But Nepthu used his leadership for his own selfish
glory and in the end he got what he deserved.
Being a good leader takes a lot of responsibility.
But you must also be responsible when you follow
a leader. Don't do something wrong or dangerous
because someone tells you to. Think before you
act. We can't all be leaders, but we can all
choose what's right and wrong for ourselves.
This is not Generation 2. This is Generation
1 done right. The year will be 2014, and from
secret staging grounds on two of Cybertron's
moons, the valiant podcasters prepare to reclaim
their reputations. September 17th, 2014, the
TFG2 Podcast premieres 45 podcast episodes dedicated
to all 98 episodes of the Generation 1 cartoon,
plus so much more than meets the ear. Join TFG1
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adventure, Malak thought he could do whatever
he wanted, but instead he found that when you
do something wrong, you may get away with it
for a while, but sooner or later you have to
answer for it. Fortunately for him, Malak had
friends who cared about him and came to his rescue.
All of us make mistakes, but doing something
wrong when you know it's wrong really doesn't
make sense. Sooner or later, it catches up to
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You can expect us to go in -depth and also talk
about the game franchises that spawn these cartoons.
So tune in Summer 2013 as we find the pixels
in the animation. In today's story, you saw what
happened when Yuckers sneezed and accidentally
blew into the horn of evil. He was just playing
around and didn't mean to do anything wrong,
but the results were just as bad. Of course,
there aren't any horns of evil in your house,
but there are many things that can be just as
dangerous. Many people have been hurt because
they were careless and played with things like
knives and matches and glasses and tools. So
as He -Man always tells me, playing is fine,
but play it safe. Alright sir, it's been a long
time since our last episode, so it's a good time
to check in on how we feel and how we think after
these three episodes as we get all revved up
for a long run of future episodes as we, you
know, we just have eclipsed the 50 episode mark.
Obviously there was way more than 50 episodes
in this series, so how are you feeling moving
forward after today's episode? Alright 51 right?
Episode 51. Alright so the next 14 episodes which
will be the end of season 1 because there's only
65 in season 1. The next 14 episodes better have
amongst them some better moments for me. Yeah
that means we only have about 4 or 5 episodes
left before we're done with season 1. Yeah season
1 ends I think episode 22 or 23 of the podcast.
lost a look and check but uh... but you know
i like i kept saying i wish three l's return
with something something different something
that we hadn't seen before and sadly it wasn't
uh... wish wizard of stone mountain just Oh,
Temple of the Sun, again. Yeah, no. I didn't
hate any of the episodes as much as you did,
but I didn't love any of them. I thought they
were all just kind of middle of the road episodes.
So it could have been a much worse return than
we got. Also could have been a better return.
But it's all about returns today, and we'll get
more to that here in a little bit. But I definitely
am interested to see... I have a feeling we might
have to suffer through a few more season one
episodes and then hopefully we'll get some new
blood once season two starts and have some more
things to talk about. But as it is, we do still
have 14 episodes to go. We'll see how season
one ends. Is it going to end on a high note or
a low note? Yeah, season one will take us through
episode 22 of the podcast starting with episode
23. Only five episodes left. Yep. Alright, so
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we will be discussing Episodes 52, 53, and 54.
Like I said, it's all about returns. We have
returned, Driel has returned, and with Episodes
52, 53, and 54, the sleepers awaken, return of
the griffon, and the return of Kranimir. So we
can say this hiatus was planned. We got returns
everywhere. For now, I'm Optimus Solo with...
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all, again, have the power. Twice in one day!
Mortal better appreciate this!
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