Masks of Power, Ordeal in the Darklands, City Beneath the

and the Masters of the Universe! I am Adam, Prince

of Eternia and defender of the secrets of Castle

Grayskull. This is Cringer, my fearless friend.

Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the

day I held aloft my magic sword and said, By

the power of Grayskull! became the mighty Battle

Cat, and I became He -Man, the most powerful

man in the universe. Only three others share

this secret. Our friends, the Sorceress, Planet

Arms, and Orko. Together, we defend Castle Grayskull

from the evil forces of Skeletor. I command you

to bow to us! I bow to no one! Actually, there's

some guy in Korea that names himself optimus

solo on Facebook, but anyway I'm the one and

only Anyways, are you ready to continue on with

the powers of grayskull always am? Yes We are

About a month and a half away before the DC the

new DC ongoing starts in comics. So that's that's

pretty cool Alright, in this episode of Tales

of Eternia we'll be giving you our thoughts on

episode 34, Masks of Power, episode 35, Ordeal

in the Darklands, and episode 36, City Beneath

the Sea. So we hope you're ready, because it's

time to go back to Eternia. the city of the ancients

has been lost for centuries it was but prince

adam just found it for us first up today is masks

of power take it away plot man thursday october

20th 1983 mask of power airs written by our friend

quote unquote doug booth Plot goes something

like this. As Prince Adam, Man -at -Arms, and

Orko discover the City of the Ancients, Eren

and Una arrive at Snake Mountain wishing to prove

their worth to Skeletor. Skeletor sends the pair

to the City of the Ancients in order to collect

the mysterious power mask of Deimos and Torella.

When Eren and Una take the mask for themselves,

the physical forms of Deimos and Torella gain

possession of their bodies as the two evil beings

seek out the Sword of the Ancients. He -Man and

his friends must race against time in order to

stop them from achieving their goal. So for bad

characters we have Skeletor and the before -mentioned

new people to the episode, and for the Masters

we have He -Man, Orko, Man -At -Arms, and an

appearance by the Sorceress as well. The PSA

is about admitting when you're wrong. It's kind

of given to us by Tila and Orko, who weren't

in the episode otherwise. Thoughts on this mask?

Wait You were gonna say on this mask episode,

right? No, I was gonna make some type of mask

reference and I thought that was something that

I should not do. Oh Before the real mask of power

we had these masks of power. Yes This episode.

Oh my god. The only thing I liked about this

episode is Skeletor's different reactions he

has and I like the fact that There is a sword

somewhere on Eternia that rivals the power the

the sword of powers own power The sword of the

ancients in comparison with the power sword that

is probably like I'm agreeing. That's one of

the only highlights of this episode Yeah, like

I like to see that I don't know how I felt about

how everything they did with this two swords,

etc but I do like to there be an idea of like

Other high ranking swords out there or weapons

like it's not just a power sword There's other

weapons in the universe that have different levels

of power All right One of the reasons why I really

hate this episode is because you have the Wonder

Twins minus Gleek Those I swear to God those

two characters they look just like xam and jayner

whatever the hell the wonder twins names are

i was just waiting for wonder twins powers activator

whatever the hell the stupid thing is i just

think this was just a little bit as far as plot

goes it's a little twisted i mean you have these

two random people we don't really know where

they came from we don't know what their purposes

or why they're doing what they're doing they

seem to want power they're going to skeletor

then they're getting possessed by these other

two people who have this historic legacy of being

bad but at one point they say that they weren't

really ever real people and the writing is very

like convoluted and confusing like it doesn't

all go together and then of course we have Doug

Booth doing some things with characters apparently

he still knows nothing about that we'll get to

later yeah I hope to God this guy is still not

writing episodes of animation today. He had been

up until a little bit ago at least I know and

that's funny because I swear people say that

I think I want to say back in the day when I

was much more Active member in the Transformers

community before they all pissed me off That

there's a good portion of Transformers fans that

really like him With episodes like a Decepticon

Raider in King Arthur's Court, I have no idea

why. Yeah, and I remember seeing him on DVDs

or on special features talking about stuff and

it was just like, I don't know. I can't remember

which one I like less, Doug Booth or Glut. Donald

F. Glutt, you know. I can't remember which one

really pissed me off on one of those special

features. I'd have to re -look, but one of them

had absolutely no liking, respect, or anything

for the franchise he was involved with. Basically

just doing it to get a paycheck. Yeah, that sucks.

As far as the PSA, it's a good PSA to learn.

You know, it's a good lesson for kids. Yeah,

it was connected to the episode, so I didn't

mind it too much. Any other thoughts on the plot?

Just too convoluted, not well written, not the

greatest plot. Nope. So we are going to head

to Grayskull. So we have entered the Hallowed

Halls of Castle Grayskull. I've got a couple

of things here. We both agree that you have to

love Skeletor at any point in time, anything

he does, between the cackling and the, where

are my evil warriors? So very funny and awesome.

Seeing Orko quote -unquote walk is very interesting

weird and creepy all at the same time But I still

like see it was a it was one of those. Did you

notice that I missed it? It's it's after it's

after the scene where Skeletor is like where

are my evil wires? Yeah It's he The problem I

don't know if it's with the animation or the

writing or what it is with this series they can

never like Places orco should float and shouldn't

float like they get those mixed up all of the

time like orco got I think it was last episode

orgo got knocked down and He was like hell if

I'm falling Like he knocked down a crevice or

off a cliff or he got knocked down off of something

and hell I'm falling. It's really you can float

you dummy jish, but there's a scene I'll see

if I can I'll see if I can go back and grab it

with the with a picture but there's a scene where

you see his his cloak on the ground and you see

what's something it's supposed to look like legs

that he's actually walking on the ground it's

very i liked it i thought it was interesting

but it was very weird and creepy hey man's got

jokes this episode wanna arm wrestle Yeah, I

don't know if it was viable or believable that

he actually won that match but It's nice to know

as I said before that next to the sort of power

There is another sword just as powerful that

has nothing to do with the twin sister. Oh wait

whoops. I'm jumping ahead No shakes fist in the

air Skeletor what do you get for this one uh...

couple things like i know that i was talking

about uh... the fact that this basically better

and there is a few pieces in here that has uh...

decent dialogue though one of them was the one

you mentioned before i really kind of thought

it was funny at the beginning of skeletor was

like my evil warriors are never around when i

need them uh... just that whole Tyra that he

was going on was funny. I Found it somewhat funny.

I don't know that they just keep referring to

that one lady as his witch queen Like what kind

of like that's like, I don't know. It's not very

nice way to refer to anybody. It's like Demos

and his witch queen. I just see her in the background

I thought it was a funny thing when they were

seeing the right before Deimos and Torella are

near the sort of the ancients they say something

about Behold or something like that and he man

walks in he's like beholden is all you're gonna

do Yeah, that's kind of a clever play on the

word. So there's a couple interesting dialogue

things that were okay in there I don't mind the

fact that again that we're dealing with some

type of historical aspect or legendary history

of Eternia. I mean, I don't like what they did

with it, but I don't mind them exploring the

history of the universe there. I just wish they

would do a decent job with it for once. And I

didn't mind the intense monster that He -Man

was arm wrestling. That was a pretty ferocious,

large... beast. You know, I guess it's just your

typical non -speaking giant beast that we've

seen over and over and over again. But I didn't

mind this one as far as design goes and just

as pure like size and epicness. But that's about

all I can come up with for this episode. Let's

head on down the waterfall of snake mountain

So we have swam up the waterfall and I've entered

snake mountain What do you got? I got a slight

problem with them setting up the City of the

Ancients as this city that's been unlocatable

for centuries. It's been lost to time and no

one can find it. And Prince Adam really had no

issue finding it whatsoever. There was no tricks.

There was no traps. There was just basically

walk through a forest, deal with some crazy things

in the forest, and when you get to the other

side, there's the city. Yeah. So I don't quite

understand how it was so lost for so long Especially

with as many flying beings as we have that could

bypass all the dangers of the forest anyway I

thought it was weird that man -at -arms referred

to orco as being like As being just a normal

alien. Yeah I call that bad writing because Alien

Shouldn't be a term being used in this universe,

in my opinion. To me, that's an Earth term that

we use to describe anything that's not of Earth.

So it's weird. I don't buy that it's an Eternian

term that deals with someone that's not from

Eternia. I don't know. And to call orco an alien

just seemed weird to me. We've got beings and

creatures and different... I guess you can call

them whatever, races or, you know, beans of all

kinds of sorts. So this is the first time in

the series I've heard someone referred to as

an alien and it kind of just struck me as weird.

Again, another example of Doug Booth. I'm assuming

he just doesn't watch any of the shows or doesn't

read anything about what's done with the characters

before he writes his episodes or he just doesn't

care. When did Skeletor get a robot bird? He's

never had a robot bird before Well, he doesn't

need a robot bird. First of all, he can see wherever

he wants to see he's got that thing in his lair

magic crystal ball He can see anywhere on Eternia

That's true doesn't need a robot bird and the

worst part about the episode I Should make a

list of times where this type of thing has happened

where like robots cry or swords speak The sword

of ancients spoke Oh my god, I completely missed

that it glowed yellow it hovered and it spoke

I Like there being a sword of ancients I like

there being a weapon that can rival the power

sword. I do not need such weapon to talk to me

Yeah, we didn't need a singing sword from a Bugs

Bunny cartoon or singing sword from Roger Rabbit.

It just made me At that moment, I was like, this

episode's retarded. All right. For me, I've got

four semi big ones. If Adam is in the next room,

wouldn't he have heard the crashing of the boulder

as they go underground? Come on, they would have

been caught instantly. They say, but Prince Adam

is in the next room. And then they throw a boulder

down to get below the room that they're in. Adam

would have heard somebody, Adam. Whatever. Someone

would have heard that. Yeah. Well, I like Adam's

initiative. It isn't quite out of character for

him to have a tone similar to He -Man, granted.

No, wait a second. I'm reading that wrong. Well,

I like Adam's initiative. Isn't it quite out

of character for him to have a tone similar to

He -Man? Granted, it's not the deep booming tone,

but he did get all assertive there. His voice,

John Irwin, changed the inflection just a little

bit as he was still Prince Adam, and it wasn't

the full -on He -Man voice, but it was somewhere

in the middle of the two. I'm not sure if I really

cared for it. I know Adam and Duncan have to

slide down the rope, but Orko can float, dammit!

He does not need a fucking rope! Or a regular

rope. Fucking Doug Booth, oh my god. It was foretold

that the Sword of the Agents would join with

another. Really? But He -Man Sword looks no different!

Yeah, there's nothing special that happened when

they formed together I was hoping it would have

some type of like glow or a different shape or

form or different power of some sort But we really

got even be slightly larger or or like whether

it's in height or or width Something that it

would change the outward appearance of it. I

just thought it was a fail what they did this

There's a lot of potential when we introduce

this sort of ancients, etc Etc and the myth behind

it and joining with others and it just had all

this potential that they just failed with Yeah,

they didn't do anything cool with it. No, no,

it's what just it's just formed together forever

now. So now humans always Can it around a stronger

sword? We just leveled up. I guess what is this

a freaking RPG? Yeah What are you doing? Did

he do give the sword some Viagra? All right,

let's move on to the awards ceremony Just as

the sorceress warned, the poor fools have been

possessed by the spirits of Deimos and his witch

queen. So it is time to hand out some awards.

First of all, Havoc staff to Doug Booth. Dude,

you need to learn how to write. Skeletor gets

a power sword for his comedy bits. For all of

his funny lines, I like that. What about you

for... As bad as this episode is, I'm not giving

a Havoc staff to anybody. I am in agreement though,

even though he kind of got owned by Deimos and

the Witch Queen, I really enjoyed Skeletor's

bits in this, his scenes, his lines, everything,

so a power sword to Skeletor, I'm in agreement

with that. I was debating whether this was gonna

be a goose or a one, and it turns out to be a

one out of five orcos for me. The only reason

why it's even getting a one out of five is because

Skeletor's humor slightly saved it. The rest

of the episode is just lazy writing, just inserting

stuff that should never be there, just horrible,

horrible, horrible. What about you? It's not

the worst episode I've seen so far. And then

as far from the best episode I've seen I settled

in on a two. Two cats for this time. You're away

for a few days. Now is my chance to conquer all

of Eternia, for myself! He -Man will stop you.

Oh, you think so? I could be mistaken. No! You're

right! He -Man would stop me, unless someone

stopped him first! Don't look at me! Don't worry,

coward! I have someone else in mind. Kor, the

sorcerer. I've heard of him. He is one of the

most powerful in all Eternia. The keeper of the

Crimson Scourge. Kor is a peaceful man. He would

never fight He -Man. He would if I can trick

him into believing He -Man has taken his daughter.

Come. We have no time to lose. Where are we going?

to the dark lands. Up next is ordeal in the dark

lands. Take it away plot man. So to end our week

back in friday october 21st 1983 we sat around

the tv and were treated to ordeal in the dark

lands written by mark scott zacree who we've

seen before. So this is at the end of the week

episode the plot goes something like this with

Skeletor away Evil Lin and triclops hatch a plot

in order to have human captured so that they

may attack Eternia without interference The pair

trick core into believing that he man and man

-in -arms have kidnapped his daughter Korra imprisons

He -Man in the large prison that holds the Crimson

Scourge, a large creature that once caused destruction

on Eternia. And as He -Man fights to stay alive,

Tila and Orko rush to Snake Mountain in order

to save Korra's daughter. Just as the family

is reunited, He -Man unavoidably frees the Crimson

Scourge while trying to escape. And they must

deal with the Crimson Scourge to end the episode.

So for bad guys, we have a difference here because

there is no Skeletor, but there are some evil

warriors. We got Evil Lin and Triclops. And for

the good guys, Tila, Orko, He -Man, Man -at -Arms,

the Reg. And our PSA was Tila and Man -At -Arms

talking about listening to your parents, that

when they say no, they have a reason to respect

that, etc. A couple things on this plot here.

First of all, I appreciate the idea of having

a plot that starts with Skeletor away for some

reason. Now, they don't go into why Skeletor

is away specifically or what exactly he's doing.

But we do get the gist that he is away on some

type of business Yeah, um, so I like that They

mentioned kind of set that up and that it's evil

and in triclops that are left kind of in charge

of snake mountain And that of course that they're

going to come up with their own plot I I like

this setup of the episode because it's something

somewhat different from what we've seen I mean

we haven't seen this every episode like some

other plots Um, so I like that the evil warriors

are the ones coming up with the idea of what

to do And I like that their idea is, look, we've

had a shit -ton of problems completing our things

because of He -Man. Well, we also are obviously

incapable of stopping He -Man, so we need somebody

else to do that part, get He -Man out of the

picture, and then we'll have success with all

our other evil doings. So that's a thing that

makes sense to me. I can buy the evil warriors

coming up with that idea, like... We need to

get this guy out of the picture. We can't do

it. Someone else needs to do it. So let's set

this up. So I appreciate that. And I appreciate

seeing another side of Eternia with Core and

this whole history of this crimson scourge that

used to wreak havoc on Eternia. And now every

so often, a new person gets kind of put in charge

of keeping the crimson scourge at bay. I'm all

on board with that. So I really don't mind the

plot and then we have instead of evil in just

disguising herself we have her basically putting

up an optical illusion and showing core so we

have the whole angle of The trickery there that

he's seen he man and man -at -arms Kidnap his

daughter when in reality it was triclops and

evil in and the whole how do we? Convince core

that that's what happened to set her so I like

this plot Yeah I like the plot. I don't like

a lot of the stuff that happened in the episode.

We'll get to that when we get to Snake Mountain,

but the general plot, I agree with you. It's

a really good plot, but just some of the executions,

some of the lines, some of the writing is just

so bad. I'm interested to see what these are.

So bad. It's the usual, but you'll see when you

see it. The PSA... Guess it's a Good lesson.

Yeah, I thought they were gonna go somewhere

else with that Yeah It seemed like there was

I'll get to it in a little bit, but it seemed

like there was a built -in PSA that they didn't

use So we'll get to that a little bit later,

but I have some more comments on the PSA later

Okay. All right. So let's head to gray skull

in and bring a bag or a barrel or something because

i got a lot of stuff that we're gonna unload

at castle gray skull but i've got to find out

if i can count on my skills in the jungle i'm

thinking about going to the dark lands to see

how i can get along by myself for a few days

so we have entered castle gray skull yay a triclops

episode oh an evil warriors plot with main bad

guys but no skeletor that's interesting hey look

millennium falcon battle droid with a woman Dude

I it it's You take Luke Skywalker animate him

and put him in Tila's place. It's Star Wars all

over again What's funny that you mentioned that

I like that but it was I was like, where have

I seen this before? Such a witchcraft Evelyn

is awesome. I love her scenes. I love when she's

not doing the disguise thing when she's just

herself I love her scenes. Yeah, I always even

as a kid. I loved Evelyn Hey look, Star Wars

chest. You better let the Wookie win. Some of

our notes are identical. Yes. So Tila's clothing

is a secret weapon, huh? That's kind of bordering

on Snake Mountain there, but I thought that was

kind of funny, more so not necessarily good.

It was just kind of funny and awkward to me.

What about you? What do you like about this?

First of all, the things that you said already.

The Star Wars chest game, that was kind of funny.

The training exercise with Teela, I mean Luke

Skywalker. We just keep getting the Star Wars

connections in this series, which I don't mind,

but it's just like they're so obvious. Especially

in this episode. I thought there was some cool

scenery. Obviously Mark or Zickery or whatever

was a Star Wars fan. There was some cool scenery

shots. There's one especially at the beginning

of snake mountain and the waterfall from kind

of a side angle somewhat And I thought it was

one of the first times that we've seen snake

mountain in all its glory From somewhat of a

close -up angle, but where you can still see

everything. So I thought that was really cool

I thought it was funny because you know shows

like this You know, this one is what prime example

that always gets made fun of of like a stock

footage and whatnot but it was almost like a

joke inside a joke because when Evil Lin changes

the scene for what Kor is going to see, it's

like Evil Lin is taking advantage of the stock

animation and making Kor think that He -Man did

this. I've liked Kor as a character. I thought

he had a cool looking design. I thought it was

a cool variation of Skeletor's voice being used.

Just kind of got a cool feel and a cool vibe

from core. He's kind of like this independent,

but you believed how respected he was you believed

how powerful a man he kind of was and why he

was given the responsibility of guarding the

red scourge and Yet he was not a hundred percent

Like good or bad. He's his own person So I kind

of I kind of enjoyed him as a character Again,

I thought it was a clever clever plot by Evelyn

You know, we've seen her do the disguise a lot.

We've seen her do lots of tricks like that I

up to this point can't remember a time where

she has Almost edited the video footage to fool

somebody in that way I thought the lizard men

looked decent And to me, what's important when

you're introducing, because every episode almost,

introduces some type of creature, alien race,

some being or animal or something. And sometimes

they don't fit the Eternia universe. Like sometimes

they just don't look like they belong. It's a

tale of two cities. And like the rock people.

Yes. But these lizard guys that core has to me

a hundred percent fit in Like you could almost

picture one of the lizard guys eventually being

a main character of sorts Like whether it be

a master or an evil warrior or something like

that Like if there was one that was like kind

of stood out like oh, let me ask you this Do

you think this this lizard men thing here? a

test for what we'll get later with the snake

men and Cobra Khan or it could have been something

they looked back at kind of the designs for this

and saw that that kind of worked but it just

was a race of people or whatever I keep using

race even though that's incorrect but it was

a race of people that I bought that I thought

fit into the Eternia style so I appreciate that

I thought he may had a funny line I like getting

a tan but this is ridiculous yeah that was funny

to be in a kid's cartoon way before tanning was

popular He man Going against somewhat of a worthy

foe is always nice to see and in this case a

foe he couldn't beat At first, you know, basically

when when they're inside when they're trapped

inside he is just trying to survive long enough

He's just trying to hold him off. He is not beating

him You know, it's not till they're outside and

he kind of gets lucky and finds the weakness

or whatever But for a long time, it's like he's

just has to keep him at bay. He can't use his

power just to beat this guy I thought there was

a cool connection where you know, originally

they were talking about Tila was talking about

getting to this place through an underground

river and I thought that it was cool that it

kind of came full circle at the end and they

use the knowledge of the underground river to

beat the Red Scourge You know, I don't know if

it was executed perfectly But I like the connection

between just a mention of this river at the beginning

of the episode and then using it at the end As

a kid, you're like, oh, yeah, I remember when

she said something about that or whatever A couple

more things. There was almost like a double PSA

connection with both Cor and Tila. Like I literally

thought that the PSA was built into the episode

and I'm like, well, when we get to the actual

PSA at the end of the episode, they're going

to be talking about things that have happened

with Cor and Tila in the episode and lessons

that they've learned. And then they didn't do

that. No, they went to a PSA that was completely

unrelated to that for the most part So I thought

that was kind of weird but I guess it was cool

that you kind of got a multiple lessons in the

level or in the episode I mean So I appreciated

that and the lastly Okay, don't confuse this

because I hate Tila And I hate Tila in this episode

Especially in the first half of the episode But

I appreciate that this episode, to me, did a

good job truly developing her character and her

abilities. It highlights her. He -Man is trapped

with the red scourge. you know, a man -at -arms

not gonna be of use or whatever, and it's up

to Tila then to take it upon herself to go figure

things out so that she can somewhat save the

day and she can prove herself. Like, she goes

out on this journey because she wants to prove

her abilities, which was messed up and we'll

get to that in a minute. But her whole goal in

this episode was to prove her worth and her ability.

Even though it's not the way she wanted to do

it, the episode does do a good job showing her

actual abilities. Showing her come through and

file through and do something right to prove

herself and to develop her character I thought

she could have struggled a little bit more when

she went to snake mount. It was basically pretty

easy for She went in and got the girl and they

left basically So I thought that could have been

drawn out a little bit more that would have made

made it more Believable that you know that she's

really proving herself But I did appreciate that

the episode attempted to show that she was just

more than just the second and you know the guard

Commander whatever you want to call her That

she actually Had some worth so I kind of like

that development in this episode even though

I hate Tila as a character What have you come

to tell me of my daughter woman not tell you

show you look into my magic crystal you Was he

man and man at arms it can't be it's true. They

are your enemies He man isn't evil. Why would

he take my daughter? I have no idea, but he has

done it and you must save her We have parked

the Wind Raider without whistling for it What

what didn't you like about the episode since

I was just talking about Tila in that last segment?

Let's just start with her It's one of my pet

peeves. Whether it be a cartoon, a live action

series, a movie, whatever, I don't care. I absolutely

hate it when a character is told specifically

to not go somewhere or to stay put or to do this

and they just completely disregard it. No, I

can understand when it's a rebellious kid or

teenager that they're not listening to or whatever

But like it happened all the time in MacGyver

and MacGyver would be like stay right here when

MacGyver tells you to do something you fucking

do it And it arms specifically told her not to

go to the dark lands and she gets to the line

of dialogue I'm sick of people telling me what

I can and can't do When has that ever happened?

When has anyone told Tila what she can and can't

do? First of all, no, I don't remember it happening

very often where she could have the grounds for

throwing this little hissy fit Yeah to your father

and the main Like mind behind all of eternity

all of eternity's defenses basically who has

knowledge of this world that you couldn't even

fathom Tells you not to go to the dark lands

You don't go to the dark lands then Why am I

flashing to You must never never go to the elephant

graveyard Simba Yeah, it's just like always happens

in literature and shows or whatever It's like

let's foreshadow this by telling someone not

to go somewhere even though everyone knows that

person's gonna go there now like but this one

it just bugs me when Tila does it because and

Lastly also about Tila now. I always knew she

was manly How many things does she truly have

under those clothes? All right, she's got pulling

stuff out from under those clothes and I can

only imagine what else she's hiding All right,

Tila stop being a whiny bitch Tila stop being

a spoiled brat Come on orko, you know, you should

have told someone even though I know orko is

thinking that he can do the job He should have

told on it. He should have told an adult that

she had went to the dark lands May Linda Gary

rest in peace, but the crying sound she made

When she was caught is just weird. It sounded

like a cross between a cry and pain and then

a moan of pleasure It was just it was such a

weird vocal just so weird um so when tila frees

the daughter where the hell is evil in the entire

time she wouldn't just leave sleeping triclops

to guard her and the father what the hell it

takes nearly all episode for him to believe them

oh putting his hand okay he man how can he man

putting his hands in the water directs it towards

the scourge i call bullshit i know he's the most

powerful man in the universe but seriously he

is able to control that that force of water to

aim it precisely at the... fuck that noise that's

so fucking stupid and lame this episode while

it teaches a good lesson listening to your parents

it was just so infuriating oh my god i hate this

episode i don't understand i cannot stand this

episode Alright, so let's get to some awards,

I guess, unless you want to rebut any of my...

I just don't understand where your hatred is

coming from. It's Tila, man. She's just such

a bitch. Let's go in and get to the awards. Alright,

it is a wards time. Okay. Havoc staff for Tila

and for Kro or Kron or whatever the wizard, what's

his name? Kor? Whatever the hell his name is.

Neither one of them listen to what others are

trying to tell them. Havoc staffs for both of

them. What about you, anything? I give Havoc

Saffortila just for going to the Darklands in

the first place, even though I do think she somewhat

redeems herself later on in the episode. And

we do get a little character development there.

She's still stupid for being a whiny bitch and

going there in the first place. Power Sword for

Korr, because I liked his character. I could

understand why he was confused. He saw with his

own eyes what he thought was to be the truth,

and he reacted like most people would react.

And I just liked his voice, his design, his everything

about him, actually. I like Korr, so Power Sword

for him. okay what about battle cats for this

one I'm baffled I'm absolutely baffled by you

I don't understand your hatred for this episode

I don't understand why you have a problem with

it to me I love the plot of Skeletor being away

and Evelyn and Triclapse getting an episode for

themselves. We didn't really talk too much about

Triclapse, but they're both heavily involved

in the whole plan. I thought it was a cool plan.

I like to see this other part of Eternia with

Kor and the Crimson Scourge. I like that He -Man

was somewhat captured and someone else had to

basically figure out, and I kind of like the

paradox that Tila initially... wrongfully went

to try to prove her abilities, but unintentionally

does prove her abilities in the end by saving

the core's daughter. I thought real long and

hard about giving this episode a five out of

five, but instead I gave it a four and a half

out of five. Okay. The only thing that saves

this episode from a goose egg is the fact that

as you just said, you love that it's Evil and

and and triclops. Yes. I like that. I like that

part of the plot I like that they are actually

showing initiative and doing Something while

Skeletor is away. So yeah one out of five other

than that Tila just ruins this episode was by

far by far better than mask of power in every

freaking way and You're ranking them as equals

Pretty much. Yeah, you're so wrong and the people

will tell you you're wrong Anyways, let's move

on to the last episode for today. And that's

the sixth ship to disappear in the last two weeks.

There's been no trace of them. Not even a single

piece of wood, Your Majesty. It's a real mystery.

And now all the other ships are afraid to sail.

What do you think about all this, Duncan? Well,

sire... There've been no storms and... Considering

the area in question... What in the name of the

ancients? It's your fault, huh? Gotcha! The only

thing you've got is trouble. Father, I was just,

uh... Adam, if you must carry on like a clown,

please do it elsewhere. You're interrupting important

business. Your Majesty, I'm sure he didn't mean

to... No excuses! I'm sure you must have something

better to do. Yes, sir. Then do it and let us

get on with protecting the kingdom. Man it on!

Coming, Sire. Don't take it too hard, Adam. These

ship disappearances have got him worried. Ships

disappearing? Where? I'll tell you later. And

finally of today is City Beneath the Sea. Take

it away plot man. So this was the beginning of

our new week, Monday, October 24th, 1983. This

is how we start our week with City Beneath the

Sea written by Larry DiTillio. In order to learn

how Eternia and ships have been mysteriously

vanishing from the seas of Eternia, Prince Adam,

Man in Arms, and Cringer board a ship. They soon

spot an underwater city that begins creating

a whirlpool. The whirlpool pulls them underwater.

where they find themselves inside the ancient

kingdom of Aquatica. The heroes are shocked when

Merman appears before them. I called it a Merman

episode, yay! Seemingly as ruler of Aquatica,

they soon realize that Merman is in possession

of the Pearl of Power, and with it appears to

be unstoppable. Our only bad character in this

episode is Merman. Masters, as I mentioned, are

Man -at -Arms, the Cat, and He -Man, with a brief

appearance by King Randor. And the PSA comes

from Orko in Man -at -Arms, don't judge a book

by its cover. So, we are in a new environment

in the sea, plot -wise, and we're basically getting

a completely, an episode completely dedicated

to Merman and the people of Aquatica and their

distrust for the land dwellers. And basically,

they've been stealing, creating whirlpools and

stealing ships and whatnot and eventually Captured

he man and have to deal with the aquatic aquatic

ins aquatic people Learning how to trust he man

and the other earth dwellers Eternian dwellers,

excuse me. Yes. So what do you think about the

merman plot? The whole time I was writing my

I guess I kept seeing near Gill in my is in my

head for some stupid reason i know it's a merman

episode but i kept wanting to call it sub atlantica

or anything but what it was anything that had

to do with atlantis except what the actual title

of of of the city is a role of the places i like

this episode i like the plot i think it's interesting

god yeah i agree that i'm gonna grinch this episode

shut the hell up well the good thing about this

episode is tila is barely there so that's that's

yeah So, um, no, I think this is a great plot.

It's your average Atlantis plot. It really isn't

when you boil it down. Um, I was halfway waiting

for Aquaman to come in and save the day. He'd

be useless as usual. But I like that it's Merman.

I like that it's Basically merman off on his

own. This is kind of goes back to what when Skeletor

said where are all of my evil warriors? He's

been hiding out. Yeah, apparently so Yeah, I

like to I thought the PSA went well with it I

don't really have too many complaints plot wise

about this I mean it seemed somewhat strange

to be on the sea and have these like Pretty high

-tech looking ships and whatnot just cuz we haven't

seen that before but I don't have a problem with

it It just kind of looked at it first Yeah Alright,

let's head on over to a watery gray skull. Oh,

there's nothing there but little dots. Well,

that's just an image, Cringer. It only shows

us where the fish are. Some invention. Call me

when you've got something that catches fish.

Cringer thinks with his stomach. So I've noticed.

You think whatever's causing ships to vanish...

comes from below the sea yes and with this ship

is bait and my sonoscope i mean to find out who

or what it is a sea voyage would probably do

cringer and me a lot of good so we are in gray

skull um i love uh cringers coming at the camera

movements when chasing the wenches there's this

side angle of cringer It's not the straight -on

like we would normally see with a vehicle or

with He -Man punching the wall But it's like

this it's like this diagonal angle, and I thought

it was really really cool Adam you've got Trubber

Trouble Cringer always thinking with his stomach

well of course I love that Sea voyage, but I

get seasick This might be yet another one of

his of Cringers best episodes. He was just so

awesome in this very very awesome Cringer slash

battle cat Okay, well, but I'm getting to battle

cat, but what I'm saying is up to that point.

They hadn't done the transformation Okay, I thought

he was equally as well in both forms in this

episode Yeah, he is I just haven't gotten to

that. Yeah continue Stop interrupting me you

asshat I love the look on He -Man's face as Battle

Cat roars when Merman is revealed. The look on

He -Man's face is just like, what the fuck is

going on? And Battle Cat's like, I'm ready to

get him, He -Man. Yeah. That was a good look.

Yeah, that picture will be in the post. I do

like that there's an actual plot to the... Atlantica

you see that's what I even wrote Atlantica. I

don't Whatever and it's not just hey, let's do

an Atlantis type thing because it's cool, right?

And I like at the end when I think it was the

daughter somebody said I don't know if it was

a villain or whatever Somebody said nice kitty

to battle cat Yes, exactly, but I know I love

this episode this episode is so great between

merman and battle cat and Cringer and Some of

the stuff that he man does so much better than

the other two episodes when you watch today I

thought that Cringer had some funny moments.

He there's one point where they're Talking about

why he should stay behind and he's like right

absolutely right and then they're like someone

about that He should actually go and he's like

wrong absolutely wrong Just thought it was funny

the timing of him saying it and then basically

just changing it with the word Interesting to

see a sea setting for a change I thought just

like I said like with the lizard people the sea

guards the aquatic ins or whatever we want to

call them Those are legit I thought they fit

right into the universe. Shalindor, they're kind

of their leader in all the aquatic and guards.

I thought they very much looked like they belonged

there. I like how we're getting to the point

where everyone refers to, or at least Hima just

refers to Battle Cat as Cat. He's become too

cool for too many syllables. Those that are cool

with him call him Cat. Was actually as much as

I was expecting to see merman based on the title

of the episode Once we got into it. I mean cuz

he doesn't appear for a good what 15 minutes

Yeah. 10, 15 minutes or whatever. Once the episode

got rolling, I was like, oh, this really doesn't

need to have anything to do with Merman. I think

this is legit. And then I'm like, oh, I thought

the Shalindor was the leader. And then they're

like, oh, you need to see our ruler. So I'm like,

oh, I wonder what the ruler is going to look

like. And then Merman steps out. I was actually

somewhat surprised. Really? I wasn't. I mean,

I knew going in that I expected him to be in

this episode, but I wasn't expecting him to come

in when he did. So I kind of like that. Well,

I was kind of confused at first because I thought

the old guy with the beard was the ruler. Right.

And then he was like, well, our ruler, blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah. And then as soon as he's

just the way he said it, I was like. yeah merman

took over well the reason i didn't think that

is because nobody was acting like the rule was

bad in a way it was like or awful ruler some

like that they're like our ruler and we're doing

this for our ruler everybody's happy with our

ruler uh... so i just wasn't a hundred percent

expecting it now have we or have we not seen

the pearl power before no we saw before was the

uh... pearl of bagu or bagu that's what merman

likes his pearls Apparently so. There's a lot

of oysters to eat. Someone should make him a

pearl necklace. So I was confused on the pearl

thing. I thought we'd seen that before. I thought

that was a great save by Cat. I'm referring to

him as Cat now because we're cool and we're on

that level. But he saved He -Man's life, basically,

with a pretty athletic jump. So good job, Cat.

I appreciate that the princess was not voiced

by Linda Geary. Yes, I'm assuming that was Erica

Shimer Lou's daughter because it did not sound

like his wife No, yeah, I've seen do the Queen

before Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Erica Shimer

I'm not saying it was like spectacular voice

acting or whatever But it was just a nice pleasant

change to not have Linda Gary voice and the princess

nothing against Linda Gary Yeah It's cool to

see he man and the rest of the group. I guess

man -at -arms swim for a change Yes, I was interested

to see how the animation was gonna look with

that and it was fine So yeah, I mean basically

nothing too awful to say about this episode I

mean, I will have a couple more things that I'll

share in the next location, but overall a pretty

decent episode You know two in a row One for

this week, but yeah. All right. Let's head on

over snake. I think your brains and snake mountain

Messiah, the prince is in your care. What about

me? Isn't anybody gonna take care of me? I may

not be a prince, but I'm the prince's best friend.

You're also a big coward. That's what I do best.

So we are in Snake Mountain. I only have one

thing, and we've talked about this before, that

the transformation scene is for us, the viewer,

But I have to question it yet again while they

are facing the whirlpool. There is no way there'd

be any time to do that and still save Man -At

-Arms. No, I agree. I thought that immediately.

I'm like, that would have taken way too long.

No, yeah, no. Yeah, my things are pretty minor

as well. There was one moment where they, if

they intended to do it, they did it in a way

that made it seem like it was an error. And that's

when they're about to go down in the whirlpool

He -Man goes we're about to go for a swim and

I and there's nothing after that Yeah, like I

don't know if they were intending that he was

talking and then the whirlpool catches them So

we just don't get to hear the rest of that sentence,

but I don't think that's what they were doing

I think there was literally more to that line

that just somehow got cut off in the editing

Yeah, he's basically we're about to go for a

swim and I nothing Yep, so that kind of was weird

to watch typical dumb giant monster overuse a

Lot of times these people like we have a plot

and we have a story going on and it's like oh

Let's pause the action and throw in a unnecessary

big Mute monster that human must battle for something

Yeah, and we'll spend five minutes doing that

until human easily throws him somewhere Which

always means you win and the person is no longer

you you know of any yes And I just sometimes

it's just not necessary So and this is one of

those where I was like a whatever typical big

monster guy that we see in every three episodes

And the only other thing was I really didn't

need as much as I was appreciative of the voice

of the princess Yeah Didn't need her giving us

a play -by -play Explaining the last five minutes

of the episode Yeah, that was a little strange

like I didn't need her to explain what he man

was doing by running around and Moving the guardrail

and you know going against the whirlpool that

would eventually break it etc etc like we can

pick up on that Anybody that saw him going the

one way while the whirlpool merman was using

was going the other way You know was gonna be

able to see that and I forgot to mention but

I did like merman Having the intelligence to

set that trap basically and then to destroy it

so nobody could do anything about it Like he

showed some intelligence side to him throughout

this episode, which you know, sometimes I think

you know You see him alongside some of the dumber

evil warriors and you forget that he's actually

one of the smarter ones As much as he seems dumb

sometimes but uh, yeah, so I just didn't need

the play -by -play with the princess explaining

what was happening. I could figure that out.

I think kids could figure that out. But it was

just a minor nitpick. All right, let's head to

the awards section as He -Man Godandi hold. Volunteering

to go with man -at -arms does you credit, son.

Thank you, father. But I'm afraid it's much too

dangerous. Right. Absolutely right. I think a

prince should be ready to face danger to protect

the kingdom. Wrong! Absolutely wrong! Alright,

so it is time to hand out some hardware. You

got anything? Yeah, um, I'm gonna stay positive

with this one. No Havoc staffs, you can put those

away, but I do have to give out two power swords.

It should be obvious because people probably

know that I like this character, but so anytime

we get an episode devoted to him, I'm probably

gonna reward him unless he's really retarded,

so a power sword's a merman. I appreciated him,

his whole plot, his execution for the most part,

his intelligence. I liked Merman in this episode,

and since we're buds now, I'm giving a power

sword to Cat, because I thought he saved He -Man's

life, had some funny lines. I appreciate the

Cat. I'm going to give a power sword to Merman

as well for the same reasons, and I'm going to

give a power sword to Cringer slash Battle Cat

as well. Both damn it the same same person What's

your rating for this one? Um, you know, I really

appreciated this episode I thought after the

first one which was kind of a doozy We got two

very solid episodes that I really enjoyed they

both rank very high on my episode rankings this

one just slightly under or deal in the Badlands,

which I gave a four and a half I give this one

a straight four Yeah, I had two horrid episodes

this week. So this one was just Levels and levels

above it. It gets a five perfect episode Yeah,

five orcos the plot was well executed There weren't

too many, you know horrible villain screw -up

moments. Like you said, you know There's a I

only wrote down one thing that I didn't like

which we both agree on about the transformation

and the transformation we've agreed pretty much

on most of the time on that anyway when shit

like that happens. Like when they do it in a

time when you think there's no way in hell they

can do that and do other things. So yeah, five

out of five. I have no problem with you giving

the first episode a one. Even though I gave it

a two, you know, it's terrible. And although

I don't see this as a perfect episode and a five

rating, but I don't have a problem. I gave it

a four or so. I mean, we both agree it's a solid

episode, but you are off of your fucking rocker

with Ordeal in the Dark Lands. That's one of

the best episodes we've seen in 36 episodes and

you gave it a fucking one. It's because of Tila.

It's so fucking bad. It's not bad. Get over your

hatred for a character and appreciate the episode

outside of that. It was one of her best episodes,

even though she is a whiny bitch in the beginning.

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destroy you yes in today's story the aquaticians

were afraid to trust us because we look different

from them Merman talked them into thinking we

were their enemies and it almost caused great

harm You should never judge a person by the way

he looks but rather by the way he behaves Because

it's what's inside a person that really counts,

right? Oh, you're absolutely right So we are

back thoughts on the series so far, um, you know

I appreciate this series of episodes because

we kind of got a look at Evelyn and Triclops

together. One whole episode. We got a look at

Merman for one whole episode. You know, I didn't

mind some of the plots overall outside of Doug

Booth's writing. So not too much to complain.

We got some character development for Tila. You

know, me and Kat formed a bond. Like where we're

going, you know still I would like some introduction

into some new characters Maybe let's see all

the evil warriors together at some point Instead

of just always one or two of them like a group

fight, you know He's like where all my evil warriors

always are gone. We'll get them all together

and let's see something So yeah, either some

more spotlights on individual characters new

characters or all the characters together would

be cool and we're aware of the ambiguously gay

duo gone I need some Stratos and ramen. That's

funny. Yeah, for me so far... It was completely

crap as far as Tila goes, except for the character

development that they gave her. She still does

not listen to her damn father and it just pisses

me off to no end. That's what makes that episode

so hard. It's true! As far as Merman, that was

awesome. I like that. As far as Evil -In and

Triclops, I like that. Like you, I'm still looking

forward to the new things. Some other evil warriors

or, as you said, maybe some different team -ups.

Maybe instead of Evil -In and Beast -Man or Evil

-In and Triclops, we'll have the introduction

of 2bad or something, somebody else. Right. that

some other like I know a lot of the the other

villains the other heroes come in as as season

one gives way to season two and all that stuff

but like hurry up yeah we're all the same thing

we've had enough episodes to learn about these

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39 the defection Tila's trial and the star Wait,

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and look at that one is written by But Tila's

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