Bow’s Magical Gift and Glimmer Come Home Review

Stick around, the new adventures of He -Man will

be right back. Hello folks, TFJ and Mike here

from the E -Cast for Radio Network and here on

Powers of Grey Skull series Myths of Etheria.

Okay folks, so OptimaSoul and I recorded episode

76 and 77 of the Myths of Etheria, our She -Ra

Filmation Review podcast, and during the recording

session for these two podcasts, oh boy. we have

two episodes if you put them next to each other

one before the other one and whatever else they

basically uh... you'll get the idea so the whole

thing here as soon as kevin pointed this out

to me and i can't believe it was kevin that pointed

this out to me and not me because normally i

have the dirtiest one of the dirtiest minds i

know outside of mike the birdman dodd uh... from

this week in the dot net but it's one of those

things where i couldn't resist kevin's joke that

you'll hear in the episode seventy six here uh...

i'd just could not resist making these uh...

double episode of super size podcast so in the

first time ever for the powers of graceful you're

going to get a double episode it's going to be

titled Miss of Etheria episode 76 and 77. So

76, 77, one file, one day. It's done. It will

be done because I'm going to be editing it that

way. So enjoy this supersized episode of the

Powers of Grayskull series. We're almost to the

finish line, folks. Hello, this is Optimus Solo,

and welcome to the 76th chapter in our Powers

of Grayskull series. With me for the 76th journey

into the Master of the Universe franchise is

TFG1 -like. Hello. How's it going? Yes, it's

going pretty good. It's going pretty good. We

had a very interesting journey in episode 75

where we talked about the comics with my buddy

Adas Barron. So that was pretty fun. Kind of

a break from the whole filmation, cartoon reviewing

thing. And get us a quick break so we can be

energized and ready and rested for the final

run. Yeah. As you people are listening to this...

I am in California, so I'm on Christmas vacation.

So I'm in California. That's right. Cause as

a kid, I used to absolutely believe in what Kevin

McAllister said about Christmas in Florida. I

absolutely believed. Oh God, that's just horrible.

Where's the Christmas tree? Where is the, at

this point in my life at 36, almost 37 years

old in a row. Wait, huh? And you're old. Hey,

you're only a year behind me. Well, it depends

on who's airing. Funny. Yeah, no, this will be

definitely after your birthday. So what you find

people would have realized is episode 69 to 72,

no, 69 to 80 will actually be airing daily from

december eleventh to december twenty second and

that's the one will be december uh... three -fifth

on christmas because that's personal special

and uh... recap will be new year's eve uh...

disembodied herself but no it's one of those

things where uh... i'd just uh... i'm kinda over

the i mean my mom's not here anymore so that

my dad and stuff but i mean i've seen my dad

a total of Maybe ten times since my mom died,

you know So it's just one of those things where

I'm just used to being on my own and yes Christmas

does matter to me But I don't as much as I love

the winter and the snow and all that stuff I

don't need to go out and have to if because it's

just me here right now I'd rather go out in California

and spend it on the beach then then Spend it

here alone with nothing. You know what I mean?

So right But we are here to talk more myths of

the area. We're going to a Slightly, I prefer

better format. I almost reformatted the entire

schedule to see if it could work to get us to

150. I did not do that, but it's just one of

those things where I've gotten to the point in

my podcasting quote unquote career that two episodes

per podcast of a cartoon review show is much

easier to do than three, four, five, or six.

Let's just go back in time. I know, right? I

was always the one that was the proponent of

having less and not having... three four five

episodes and like always fought me on this. Now

he's come full circle. He's realized the error

in his ways. It also cuts down on editing time

too. But in this specific episode of Mists of

Etherea we're going to be giving you our thoughts

on episode 84 Bo's Magical Gift and episode 85

Sweet Bee's Home. So we hope you're ready because

it's time to go back to Etherea. Shadow Weaver?

Are you alright? I am now. Thanks to you and

Bo. No problem. I wonder how this thing works.

Be careful, Bo. I wouldn't take a chance with

anything that belonged to Shadow Weaver. First

up today is episode 84 bows Magical gift air

date Saturday, October 24th 1987 written by Philip

Castle Bo gets a hold of Shadow Weaver's wizard

wand and becomes quite overconfident about himself

That's really I we complain about the synopsis

of sometimes and the different little plot summaries

that I find that one is Absolutely perfect because

literally that's all you need to know about this

episode That is a fucking understatement. Sorry.

There's a wand, bow gets it, and it becomes overconfident.

End of story. We can move on to the next episode.

No, as far as Horde members, there's a Hordak

I mentioned in the appearance of Horde Prime,

Horde Trooper, Shadow Weaver, Grizzlor makes

an appearance. And then we have She -Ra slash

Adora. Cast a spell up makes an appearance as

well. Glimmer, bow, cowl, sprague, and sprocker,

as well as something we will get to in a little

bit. Other characters. jewel star, tall star,

and starla. I'm going to be bringing those up

in my whispering woods moments later, but yeah.

So we will get to them in a minute, but just

overall, I kind of, I guess, tipped my hand a

little bit with my comments about the plot synopsis,

but Mike, what do you feel as far as the plot

of Bo's magical gift? Before we get to that,

Philip Kessel, the writer. He must not have had

a very good career The missing acts enchanted

castle welcome back cowl bo's magical gift. That's

Everything that he's credited for an IMDB. It's

the only series. He's credited for IMDB I Don't

mean to make light of the man's you know career

in life or whatever because I don't know if he's

still around or not But it's just one of those

things where normally some of these writers that

I've lately You know the last I'd say five or

ten podcasts where you know I've wanted to see

because some of the last five or ten episode

five or ten episodes the podcast some of the

cartoons have just been god -awful some of them

have and I want to see what other things these

people have done and I figure it's gonna be this

long list of just horrible horrible things and

this guy Aussie wrote with Shira according you

know just what they have listen it could be you

know face it folks and he could be wrong you

know uh... as well as far as the plot goes uh...

first of all can we talk about the title because

the title just makes my skin crawl it sounds

like he's you know dancing on the stage with

a pole and he's he's you know got mike next to

him or something not me the other one uh... god

Oh, friggin' uh, oh god, stripper movie from

a few years ago. Oh my god. If only this was

back -to -back with episode 86, then Bo's magical

gift could bring, could make Glimmer come home.

Oh! Oh damn. I said it. I did not believe you

just went there. Sorry. Oh god. But anyways,

here's Bo's magical gift. That's awesome. This

is... This is by far the most infuriating Bo

episode that the series has ever produced. It's

funny because, you know, we've been bitching

and complaining about Bo for a while. If you

had gotten this far, if you had gotten 84 episodes

in and not hated Bo yet, then that's okay because

this episode would have done it for you. so we

were just there a long time ago but anybody that

wasn't with us you should be there now this episode

would have made you hate him the first words

that came out of his mouth as soon as he got

that stick any holdouts if there was any like

lone bow fans out there that were just like still

defending him you you can't defend him anymore

you're done no yeah Oh my god, you know what?

I almost, I really, really wanna, you know what

I really wanna do right now? I really wanna take,

and I probably won't do this, but I really wanna

take episode 66 and episode 77 and turn them

into one giant podcast just to have the post

title say, Bo's Magical Gift Makes Glimmer Come

Home. I really, oh god, that was genius. You're

welcome. So two thumbs down from both Mike and

myself about the plot. Yeah, okay, so we didn't

really go over it a little. Basically what happens

is Grizzlor and Shadow Weaver screw up, Bo gets

her wand of wizardry or wizard's wand or whatever

the hell it's called and you know, she was gonna

pull a line that... you know everyone's heard

before since nineteen sixty two later i'll talk

about but essentially the power goes to his head

and he becomes a bit more egotistical than he

usually is and and everybody keeps saying all

even both keeps it it's going out the lights

going out the sound isn't happening too much

more dude this is not the fucking cosmic key

you can't just sit here and play this to have

it make sound and yeah there's no energizer bunnies

back then so keeps going and going you know that

eventually it was gonna do something but he was

too arrogant i guess to even consider that so

it was just yeah i mean basically what you have

here is you have an episode that has like the

standard macguffin as the the wizard wand or

the you know the device the the technological

gadget, et cetera, et cetera, and accompanied

with our typical good person goes bad for an

episode and has to learn a lesson. It's a combination

of two things we've seen a billion times so far

through these series. And then you highlight

that by making the character that's gonna go

bad for the episode be one of the least likeable

characters in the entire franchise, it's not

a good recipe for success. For me. No, it's not.

So, I am not a big fan of this plot, and it would

take a lot for me to like this episode based

on that plot, so let's see just how that all

worked itself out. We're gonna take a quick break

and be back to tell you what we find in both

Whispering Woods and The Fright Zone. Coming

up next. This thing isn't getting past me! The

Horde just doesn't build transporters the way

they used to. Thanks, She -Ra. But you didn't

have to. I could have handled it myself. It wasn't

you I was worried about. It wasn't? No. The transporter

was out of control because you slammed it to

the ground. What if the transporter had gotten

into the crowd? People could have been hurt.

Well, I... Bo, now that you have greater power,

you should have greater responsibility, not less.

Of course, but don't worry so much. Look, the

villagers want us to take a bow. They're cheering

us, She -Ra, you and me. I think this wand is

gonna make me famous. Alright, so I think I've

probably tipped my hand a lot, but maybe you

haven't as much yet. So let's see what you can

tell the folks as far as Whispering Woods moments

for the good things. Between both areas of Etheria,

I have seven notes. So the first four are actually

in Whispering Woods here. The Horde fails again,

and hey, look, just when Horde Prime comes to

town... Shadow weaver oh shadow weaver and grizzlore

absolutely hilarious like don't get me wrong

I like Montana and when when Montana does his

thing with shadow everything like that But shadow

weaver and grizzlore together that was awesome.

I loved the two of them just what and What is

it about shadow weaver now? Whoever's writing

or whoever is working on even the story editors

or the story consultants or whatever not just

the writers, but even the executives at Filmation,

in Secret of the Sword, she was the badass, bad

female. She was, you know, a theoryist version

of Evelyn. And now at this point in the series,

she's almost become a joke character to me. Yeah.

I mean, she's still dangerous, she's still whatever,

but I mean, Witch Hagar and Voltron could just

knock her off her high horse very easily. It's

almost because they've gone exclusively to her

now it seems like she gets so much more like

they can't they can't alter it up they can't

have like a lot of plots with cat show or with

You know with some of these other characters.

We've been introduced to over the course of the

series It's now been like it's just a hordak

and Shadow Weaver show You're gonna want to jump

in on this so hey look the star sisters the first

time I ever heard of them or saw them because

again Remember certain things about Shira. I

did not you know as we've said the last four

and a half five years Neither one of us really

watched every episode before we went back and

did this so I Had never I didn't remember them

hadn't heard of them But the first time I did

hear about them was when Mattel and at the time

Maddie Collector made the three -pack action

figure set for the Masters Universe classics

a few years back a few years ago So it was nice

to kind of see them She restole Uncle Ben's line.

With great power comes great responsibility.

She says it a little bit differently, but that's

essentially the same damn thing. You got anything

in Whispering Woods moments, or are you gonna

pull a low -key? No, I have three words written

down. That's jewel star, tall star, and starlet.

Interesting, because I had completely forgotten

that these people existed. But the Star Sisters

do make an appearance, and... I did some research,

actually. I don't know how accurate this is because

I was having trouble actually finding some sources

to verify it and get some more information on

them, but originally appeared in... a comic of

some form. It's probably the original mini comics

most likely. Yeah, interesting that we're doing

this right after episode 75. But they appeared

in a mini comic to begin with. And then, of course,

like you said, they were made into a toy with

the classics line. Apparently, from what I've

been able to find, they were introduced in this

episode. And according to at least a couple sources

I've read out there, were supposed to be... spin

-off of She -Ra. So this was supposed to be the

start of something else where you have these

three kind of cosmic characters because the the

way the comic introduces their origin is that

they were at one point part they were like on

a comet or a shooting star or or something like

that or they were banished in were traveling

on some type of shooting star comic and crashed

into a mountain and were basically trapped there

until She -Ra apparently allowed them to be free.

And so they all have these different powers and

apparently this is gonna be some type of spin

-off show that never happened or spin -off story

or something. So I thought that was interesting.

But I did like seeing them. It's almost like

The Rock. Lords or the rock people. You know

what I mean? Yeah, we got them just for a brief

instance and I was like hey these people from

another area Crash -landed we could have a whole

series about these rock people etc. That never

happens. So oh Maybe the star sisters and the

rock Lords could join forces we can ever The

star Lord as far as right? Yeah, I would like

to immediately go to fright zone though. Oh my

first note on fright zone Three words jewel star

tall star and starla uh -oh Don't introduce these

characters like that and have them in the introduction

with bow and all this stuff and then Basically

do nothing with them like so this is the only

time we see them I I've done all the scripts,

and I don't believe we see them again Wow are

this of if we see them again or not even this

episode we heard it's like hey here's these characters

and now you're not going to see them again for

the majority of this episode that's kind of like

someone pulling a Kanye doing a run -in and then

name dropping somebody else like seriously it's

like oh I like this person but Beyonce did it

better It was so brief though that we get to

see them. They don't even show us all of their

powers yet. Like if you just watched this episode,

you wouldn't be aware of the other two's abilities.

Like you get to see Tallstar do her thing, but

you don't get to see anything else. So it was

like, what is the purpose of them being here

if you're not even going to give them a whole

episode to do stuff? You know what I mean? At

least when they've introduced some of these other

characters, they've had the whole episode to

shine. So I was both happy to see them. And then

kind of felt like I was let down overall. Two

other notes here. The look on Glimmer's face

at one point was disturbing. I just put yikes

because it was just like a weird ass look. I

wish I would have screen capped it. And then...

So Shadow Weaver just starts the episode out

with this random wizard's wand. No talk about

where this thing has been. No talk about how

she... comes into possession of it. Like at least

give me something like start the episode at the

end of another thing, like the end of this little

quest that Shadow Weaver finds this wizard's

wand or something. So we have some idea of what

it is, where it came from, why it has power,

but not just Shadow Weaver randomly has this

wand that's then gonna come into Bo's possession

and blah, blah, blah. So it was a weird way that

they placed that wand into the story. What about

you? What do you have for Fright Zone besides?

let me just predict though at least one phrase

on moment is going to have the word bow in it

yeah um i'm actually going to insert a line here

because uh it's one of those things where it's

a little bit more hilarious when you think about

it this way so ladies and gentlemen jay jona

jameson he doesn't want to be famous and i'll

make him infamous that's right That wand is not

gonna make Bo famous, it's gonna make him infamous!

That's all I can think of is when J. Jonah Jameson

said that about Spider -Man in one of the Spider

-Man movies. I call bullshit when everyone leaves

to quote -unquote watch how Bo saves Glimmer,

only Adora and Cowl are left in the tent. Cowl

knows the friggin' secret. Why couldn't she just

change into She -Ra then, even if she had to

transform Spirit into Swiftwin? uh... like i

was thinking that yet sometimes in in the human

show we've seen this and i and i know spirit

the the alter egos with one i know spirit is

not a coward the spirit personality the swift

one personality neither one of them are cowards

like cringer is because cringer the point of

cringer is that the cringer side of him he's

a coward and battle cat is the big bad ass who's

gonna kick everybody's ass Quite literally. You

know, so in He -Man we had several scenes where

Cringer would run away. I specifically remember

this one episode where Cringer ran down the hall

of the palace, away from the power sword transformation,

and it followed him around the fucking corner.

I absolutely love that moment, but... like seriously

she couldn't have just done something like that

or the power couldn't have just like slipped

right through the opening in the tent like she

had to run out of the tent find a piece of forest

or scenery where no one was around she even looks

around i'm like bitch you're in a tent with the

one of the only people that even knows your damn

secret just put the sword in the air already

uh... bowl how that guy even though he learned

his lessons still all my god i wanted to chokeslam

him so hard in this episode uh... you know uh...

is that all you had no i i i i have another moment

that's going to come up later but i'm saving

it for that so it's uh... otherwise i would have

some more phrase on most well just uh... real

quick the p s a Power and strength should be

used to help others. So, a decent message, I

guess? Alright, no. No, it's not. It goes back

to what we've been saying recently. If you have

power or strength, it is good to use it to help

others. Well, yeah, but what I'm saying is it's

not the message that's the problem. It's not

what the message is saying that I have a problem

with. It's what... the way the show went. The

whole point of the show was... when she was said

with great power comes great responsibility yeah

again they're repeating themselves they had a

lesson throughout the whole episode because she's

trying to sit there and teach bow even though

he doesn't want to learn or listen or whatever

and then at the end they have the same almost

the same damn psa really seriously after that

yes all right we're gonna take another quick

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see who's exactly getting Horde Bats and Protection

Swords. I'll let you go first. What do you have

for either Horde Bats or Protection Swords? Because

I'm going to take a while. All the Hordebats

in the world to Bo. Oh my god. All the Hordebats.

That, you know, I usually give Hordebats to everybody

or Protection Swords to everybody. No, no, no.

Bo, you get every single Hordebat ever in existence

for this one episode. Oh my god. As far as Protection

Swords, She -Ra, Glimmer, the Twiggets, Hordak.

I just loved everything. Hold on a second. How

many of those? She -Ra. Protection Swords for

She -Ra, Glimmer. The Twiggets, both of them,

Sprocker and Sprague, and Hordak. Jesus. Well,

good thing, I guess it wasn't... I mean, you

were out of Horbat, so I guess... Well, I added

a million of them. For me, I will give protection

swords to the Star Sisters. I like seeing them.

I wanted to see more of them, so if there's a

character that shows up and makes me want to

see more of them, then I think they're deserving

of a protection sword, but... Hoard bat? Hmm.

All right. First of all, Mr. Bo, you power hungry

piece of crap. You get one hoard bat for being

power hungry. You get another hoard bat for ignoring

the signs, like Mike brought up earlier, that

this wand is clearly losing power. Number three,

you get a horde bat for being so arrogant that

you leave your bow behind. Your name is freaking

bow. You don't leave your bow behind. And you

don't throw your bow away for some new fancy

toy that lights up. All right? And then the whole

bowing to the crowd, like you're some type of

big shot and all that type of stuff, the arrogance,

you get a fourth horde bat for that. Beau, you

are a piece of garbage, and you have displayed

all of the reasons why in this episode. So four

horde bats, two Beau, and they can hit him all

right in his magical gift. So, is that good enough?

Wait, wait, wait. If I can't give a thousand

horde bats, which I tried to at one point for

something else, how can you give four individual

ones to the same character? Four times. I get

to hit him with it four times. It can be one

bad if you'd like. I'll just hit him with it.

For my episode rating, as far as Crystal Castle's

for this one, we've been ripping on it a lot.

It's not the worst episode of the series. And

the only reason I'm not gonna treat it like such

is mainly because of, like you said, there is

some humor there between a couple of the evil

characters. The Star Sisters make an appearance,

so I can't hate on it totally. So I'm going to

give it a two out of five. Yeah, I'm gonna give

it a two and a half out of five. You're even

higher on this one than me, huh? The only reason

is because number one, the Star Sisters, number

two, Shadow Weaver and Grizzlor, and then, I

mean... Anytime anyone writes in this classic

Uncle Ben Spider -Man line, even though the recipient

of that line didn't listen to the damn thing

at all, it's still cool. Alright, so not the

best rating for the first episode today, not

the worst, but hopefully it can go up from here.

After the break we're going to take a look at

episode 85 and another new character. Plenty

of water. It looks good, Drone 7. I'm going in!

A spacecraft, eh? Is it one of ours? No, Mighty

Hordak. It appears to be an alien scout craft.

Is it dangerous? Stanners show it to be completely

unarmed. It seems to be on a peaceful mission.

Well, in that case... Like the Horde's up to

something. Well, whatever the Horde is planning,

I hope it won't spoil your visit. Me too, Adora.

I get little enough chance to see you as it is.

Still, that looks like a freeze cannon. What

are they aiming at? Something in the sky, I think.

potential a spaceship the Horde shot down a spaceship

sounds like my vacations over I'm afraid so my

brother Alright, next up is, as we mentioned,

episode 85, entitled Sweet Bee's Home. Airdate

Saturday, November 29th, 1986. Written by Bob

Forward. Sweet Bee is looking for a new planet

for her hive of bee people that they can settle

on, but her ship, Scout III, is shot down over

Etheria by Hordak. Luckily, Adora and her visiting

brother Adam are on hand to help out, as she

ran him in, also joining them are Mermista and

Frosta, brandishing the powers of water and ice

respectively. Frosta immediately takes a liking

to He -Man and becomes quite jealous when he

appears more interested in Sweet B. So we have

Hordak, Shadow Weaver. We have She -Ra, He -Man,

Marmista, Sweet B, and Frosta, like mentioned

before. Mike, we got a couple things here. We

got an episode that the plot revolves around

a crashing member of a different world. And then

we also have somewhat of a... i really love triangle

but uh... that's essentially what it is a triangle

of people that may have uh... like for other

people so it's a love triangle it's a very loves

triangle because well he's not a lot in a true

love triangle they all would like each other

in a way except for the two girls uh... and in

this one it's not in this day and age that that

that may be but it's not reciprocated because

frost is likes human but human does not like

frosta yeah human like sweet b but sweet b doesn't

like human necessarily so it's it's kind of a

weird thing but what did you think of it either

way i liked it i thought it was interesting but

i would consider it a love triangle in the sense

of a whole soap opera angle like i mean 1970s

all my children something like that these are

the days of rely like seriously this whole episode

could have been a giant soap opera. Hell, this

whole episode could have been a reality television

piece on Jerry Springer, for all I know. You

know, I mean, but, I like the plot, I think it's

interesting. I enjoyed this episode a hell of

a lot more than the last episode. The one thing

I'll say is, this is Bob Forward, people. This

is Bob Forward when he's writing well. i mean

the jealousy thing and whatever you know since

they would you want about that part of the plot

with with frosted but you know we start in space

we start with someone we don't know at all we

see them crash landing well actually or actual

them down but you know i mean we see them crash

landing on a theory a we see that atoms on vacation

again so i guess what answer i want to know at

this point what the hell is still a toy is killed

or should have taken over by now Seriously should

have I mean if Adams constantly on a theory,

yeah Yeah, I could see that I like the idea that

we're gonna introduce to this new character the

way they're doing it that we also have The idea

that you know, we've had all these crossovers

with Adam slash he man but one thing that we

haven't seen is and it makes sense here because

picture this way guys we have We have a world

any theory that is mainly seem seemingly mainly

dominated by women And you can look at it a bunch

of different ways. Number one, the Rebellion

is almost all women outside of Bo and a couple

of the very minor, like, comic relief characters.

But the main characters there, whether you look

at She -Ra, whether you look at Glimmer, Queen

Angela, all of the other people, Frost or Mista,

Cast of Spell, et cetera, are all females. Even

if you look at the Horde, you have Catra and...

Shadow Weaver and Scorpio. Right, as well as

a bunch of other ones in Trapta, et cetera, et

cetera. So there's a lot of female -dominated

character... environments here. And the only

guy that we really get to see for the most part

is Bo, and we all know how we feel about him.

So it makes sense that after time after time

after time that He -Man, who is a physical specimen,

you know what I mean, and much more manly than

Bo, all the times that he's come over, there

should be at some point a group, you know, multiple

people in this world that are like, Who is this

guy and? Let me get to know him more so that

only makes sense so I think it's about time that

in these I mean normally you would normally I

wouldn't get this reaction because it's like

you know I want my 80s action cartoons to be

80 actions cartoons And I don't want a bunch

of love stories etc etc, but it's about time

that somebody says This is what a real man looks

like go somewhere else, He -Man's here. Well,

see, here's the thing. This is not the first

time, well, this is probably the first time He

-Man has had a love triangle, but in the very

beginning, and almost throughout the whole series,

Glimmer has always had a crush on Adam. Right.

So, I mean, even going back to Secret of the

Sword, but yeah, you're right. I mean, this is

the first time we really see... You know, all

of that. What I love about this episode is just

how quickly this seemed to move. Like, the action

in this and the way the story was told, even

though the majority of it was a lot of soap opera

type stuff, it moved really fast. Like, this

did not feel like a 22 minute, 30 minute cartoon

to me. This moved very very well, I thought Yeah,

I agree. So no problems with the plot whatsoever

a very interesting plot Let's take a break and

then get into the specifics on Why exactly we

end up liking this one a little bit more than

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a lot to talk about as we make our way into Whispering

Woods and the Fright Zone actually. I have quite

a few notes. This is the most notes I've taken

on an episode in a while. So I'll let you go

first. What do you have for Whispering Woods?

Yay! Crossover! Yay! Frost and He -Man sitting

in a tree. man frost has a huge crush on him

and all my god she she all but basically you

know stood over a open great and let her skirt

fly up uh... yes folks that's a maryland monroe

joke uh... is here all day uh... i know i'm here

till thursday to be waitress Around the 10 minute

mark or so in the episode if you're watching

where we watch or even if you watch on the DVDs

I assume it's around 10 minute 10 minute to second

mark. You know what we get to see for the first

time in a long time? The He -Man logo transition.

That was cool. I was not expecting that. Man,

Shear is just hazing her brother. She's giving

him all kinds of grief. Yeah. and at the end

i'd like to call the check -in uh... yeah we'll

get into that well boy uh... they look like it

is back for next for next civil war can and that's

awesome get a favor for all the end of the so

that we get a lot of it here yeah i uh... i know

this defies the logic and everything else and

i know it's probably going to be one of your

friends on loans uh... but uh... He man goes

bowling with the weave with Weaver in the in

the ice ball I thought that was hilarious because

it's been a while since we've seen he man, right?

Normally when he comes into some of these some

of these crossovers He just does oh like a one

-and -done thing This was a whole story kind

of you know involving him and her and she read

everybody else so Right. What do you got for

Whispering Woods? Alright, great look on Hordak

and opening scene. I just thought that was interesting.

Crossover, like you said, He -Man and Frosta,

I like that idea. I like the idea that Frosta

or any of these other main people outside of

just the Glimmer Adam thing have an attraction

to He -Man. It's also a Fright Zone moment, so

I'm going to say that now. Because they just

go a little too far, not necessarily in... the

storytelling or the action, they go a little

bit too far with the animation. The visual gets

a little bit, like this could have been a much

cooler aspect of the story, but it gets a little

bit heavy -handed with the visuals. And so I

both like the aspect that He -Man and Frosty

have this thing. but then dislike exactly how

it's executed. I mean, she's even leaning on

He -Man and stuff. She's basically, you know,

dangling off his neck half the episode. But he's

not moving her off. Well, but he's... He doesn't,

like, say, like, get off my shoulder. He doesn't

brush her away. He doesn't move away. He just

lets her lean on him the entire show. Dude, he's

He -Man. He's not supposed to be rude. okay i

mean come on now it's it's friggin he man i'm

actually gonna show you a an image here that

i did screen cap there is a moment in this where

she's coming on to him that he's just like uh

sis and and she was like sorry he man just you

know and this is the look on his face no and

she's just got her hand up you know it's one

finger up again she's just like standing there

all you know whatever else basically ready to

do you know just drop her top for him and whatever

else and he's i i don't you know what after watching

this episode and i am not trying to sound cruel

at all folks i have plenty of gay friends but

I see now, I understand now, not just because

of Prince Adam's look, not just because of the

hair and everything else, I understand now why

Filmation Prince Adam and slash He -Man gets

all the gay jokes at this point because he's

just like... We do have to, I will get into that

in a little bit. Save that note, remind me to

come back to it. Well, I don't want to sit here

and go too negative with it. I'm not saying it

negatively. No, no, I just want to say remind

me of that because I want to bring that up in

a little bit. Enchanta, the... i don't know what

you want the swan interesting bird type thing

interesting seeing her and her she's you know

called out by name um how about some um some

stasis pods way before beast wars huh with sweet

b landing and then the the race to get to her

Okay, this episode aired November 86. They're

a year late on Stasis Pods because we had the

Thundercats in their capsules. Right, true. Sweet

B likes seeing that character. I forgot. I mean,

I knew of her, so I was waiting to see if she

showed up or not. I was half hoping Adam would

have brought Buzz off with us. Yeah, that would

have been cool. One horde trooper down. Man,

Hordak annihilated that horde trooper. He's like,

you failed me and I'm just going to destroy you.

This is going to be all your fault. Cool to hear

of another universe and planets like the Hive

etc and what's going on up there and also it

allowed that She -Ra You don't usually get this

type of writing here in these episodes, but She

-Ra pointed out the difference between Eternia

and Etheria I thought that was super a nice touch

to this that they did in this episode. We also

got a He -Man She -Ra double punch Yep, so we

always get the He -Man punch, but they did they

did one together. I thought that was cool Thought

frost actually did have a funny moment because

he managed to get you know They get introduced

and then she's like what don't we deserve an

announcement? Yeah, like we're just chopped liver.

Oh, yeah, that's when when when when for Dakia

I also thought we got a lot of development actually

for both Frosta and Mermista. More than normal,

like we get to see a lot more of what kind of

characters they are and they're very different

characters but they also are working together

with this fire or with this ice and water type

thing etc. So I thought there were some cool

moments for those two characters. That goes back

to the fact that you have someone Who most likely

is writing a story he wants to write at the same

time. He's also mindful of What has come before

him? What has come before in the series Bible

as far as the continuity and things like that?

Like this is the first we've ever really seen

and you know, we've said this recently these

last few episodes of the show have been the first

time we've ever really seen adam and adora kind

of go well adam and adora he means you're whatever

go back and forth on various things and as i

said earlier this episode you know she's basically

hazing him and making fun of him and that kind

of thing a few times it is not a bad way it's

a sisterly lovingly kind of way like you know

she's joking with him so it goes to bob forward

because you know he's in an excellent writer

and maybe this was a story that he just was really

interested in making sure it was done the best

it could have been this could have been a two

-part drama oh absolutely yeah he and i i do

also like what he does there because he actually

allows him into interact with the etherians uh...

and and that's something we don't get a lot of

on these crossovers it's mainly just human interacts

with or communicates with she wrote a slash adora

And that's about it. And then they do something

and he saves the day or whatever and then goes

back to Eternia. So we don't get a lot of him

actually interacting with multiple people in

Etheria and I thought that was very cool to see.

So a lot of things to like about it. Also a couple

minor nitpicks for me. I don't know about you

Do you have any phrase on moments the only thing

I wrote down because I just really wanted to

enjoy this episode? Man Frosta she went from

somewhat sexy and sweet to just cold and hateful.

Oh my god Like that Yeah, I mean I trust me I

know it's one of those things where you know

they'll let it go otherwise the whole oh no no

no no do not bring I that's one thing your lady

love and I can agree on to hell with Elsa you're

both idiots oh my god no I don't think so I don't

think so at all keep going but it's just one

of those things where I know every person male

female whatever always has attitude changes But

that attitude change was like on a dime. It was

like a Little much could have been an even better

aspect of the show than it was second on sweet

be as hideous Wow Okay, so Shadow Weaver is going

to trick this Drone 7, Drone 9, whatever it is.

Drone 7, yeah. Yeah, Drone 7, the other Hive

member, into thinking that it's okay to land

or come to here, et cetera, et cetera. So she's

gonna do that by impersonating Sweet B. All right.

First off, how does she know what Sweet B's name

is? Second off, how does she know what Sweet

B's voice sounds like? didn't Didn't didn't imp

show up in this episode or is that next podcast

wasn't there something? Okay? No, it wasn't here

So I don't get how I like she's like I'm gonna

pretend to be somebody else like okay Maybe you've

seen her in your magic ball, but I don't understand

how you know her name You know her voice and

it seemed weird to me. Okay next thing Probably

the biggest nitpick, but I got an issue here.

Mm -hmm. There's 10 ,000 hive members I don't

think it's gonna be that easy to enslave 10 ,000

Hive members. But they're coming to a world that's

already enslaved. Yeah, but you don't just bring,

you don't just have an army of 10 ,000 people

and say that Hordak's just gonna be able to snap

his fingers and you have 10 ,000 new slaves.

And I wouldn't be afraid if I'm the member of

this race that has 10 ,000 people come in. Like,

do your worst. We outnumber you. Like that seemed

weird they shouldn't have made it 10 ,000. It

should have been like, you know a thousand or

you know what I mean? Like a hundred like something

that would have been more manageable like They

might as well have said that there's a million

hive members like That defeats the purpose of

some of the stuff they're talking about. How

does sweet be create that ladder? Oh boy. Is

that a power of hers? Yeah, well, she did something.

She waved her hand or some sort of... She worked

her bee power into creating like a beeswax. Yeah,

I... She even calls it that. She calls it a honeycomb

ladder or something. Yeah. Just like it falls

out of her butt like a spider. She calls it a

honeycomb... Calls it honeycomb ladder you're

right and here. I thought it was gonna You know

show up as a stinger or something like I thought

it was just gonna come right over out of her

butt or something Yeah, it was a little strange,

but that was one thing that we could say was

quote -unquote convenient for the plot Yeah,

and the last thing that I have here is I just

don't get the whole line by she recalling him

Asking your chicken like that seems so odd like

that's your sister like I I don't I can understand

like teasing and be like oh you're getting red

or you're blushing or this that and the other

but then like To egg him on to be like wait.

Are you chicken? You're not gonna pursue this

girl or something I don't know that was a weird

line to me. I took it the wrong way. I think

Yeah, and I think this is the one episode I'd

have to go back, but I think this is the one

episode in all of filmation or he man He -Man,

not Adam, He -Man has blushed the most. I saw

the blush animation like at least five times.

And it wasn't necessary all the time. That's

what I'm saying. The animation was, if anything

about this episode is going to be nitpicked the

most, it's got to be the animation because they

do stuff, they go to it too many times, certain

effects. The PSA was about not being sad if you're

moving to a new town. I don't know what the fuck

that had to do with it. But it was literally

about I guess like finding new friends and not

being sad that you're leaving your current friend

I don't know where they came up with that. Hey,

Lukey Scott and T Bob We're over in the corner

waiting for you get over there and hang out with

them. Holy shit Like I don't get where that had

to do with anything I guess the hive was leaving

their home to come to a new place, but that's

a yeah, that's that's a very very long stretch

to make All right, sir. Is it time for hardware?

Yeah All right, so hardware for me Frosta gets

a Horde bat look I like Frosta I Thought her

coming on to he man was fun and funny at first

and interesting until she basically At one point

she basically lays at his feet on the ice and

the only thing missing from it was her being

n - she basically sprawls out for him and he

just doesn't want anything to do with it so I

think her whole - and the other reason why she

gets a whore bed is the whole attitude the quick

- very quick attitude change like look they just

- it's cold as ice man yeah well look have they

like actually met before like she had to have

known That that's he man that she is brother

that kind of thing. And it's one of those things

where they've had to have seen each other before.

And the way that this episode is written and

again I'm not going to sit here and not praise

Bob for his writing, but just the characterization

of frosted here seems as if she's falling in

love with human at first sight. She's essentially

that fine. Oh yeah, you have to come back to

that. you have to come back to the whole prince

adam he man yes you know thing uh... we forgot

to do that no i'm is coming up uh... so yeah

i want to give her a word that because issue

just the attitude thing well you know she she's

a said she to me in this one episode and it's

only because i've now seen this movie even though

i never wanted to see it she's essentially elsa

and anna wrapped up in one friggin person i just

don't uh... and it was just words he managed

your i don't know you i know you found the banter

at the end kind of wonky but i love the whole

banter from the beginning to the end between

the two of them i love the fact that she's basically

you know hazing and we don't know we know they're

twins we've never like i've seen television shows

where the twins say oh i was six minutes before

you so you know you have an older even though

they're born at the site you know what i mean

right so it's like you know i've seen that before

but we don't actually know Nothing, I really

want to know who came out of Marlena's womb first,

but it's just one of those things where It felt

like she was the bigger sister kind of picking

on a little brother kind of thing And I just

really dug it. I thought it was funny because

again. We've never seen we always see he man

is this big hulking guy who Basically lift anything

throw anything into space put anything out with

water fire move mountains with lakes in them

and you know have his his sword create, you know

quakes and whatever else and now we basically

see him as a Vulnerable schoolboy in the at the

playground, which I thought was absolutely hilarious

and fun. Yeah I got one of each protection sword.

I'm actually gonna give tumor Mista because I

just thought she was awesome in this episode.

You know, she's not falling into the either one.

Like she's not involved in the triangle at all,

but we get to still see a lot about her character.

Plus she has some cool moves and stuff, cool

action pieces. She's kind of over there with

Shira egging things on or just kind of like being

the more mature person. So I thought my mister

was great in this episode. All right, Hordebat.

My Hordebat actually goes to He -Man. What? That's

gonna go back to what I was gonna talk about

before. Oh boy, here we go. You're picking sweet

B over frosta I'm sorry if frosta and her good

-looking self is sprawling all out and infatuated

with me and then this freak of a thing sweet

B crashes from another planet looking like almost

like a B or like some type of weird makeup Butterfly

like I don't That's who you're infatuated with.

I don't get it Maybe it maybe a sweet view is

supposed to be prettier than she was but I give

him in a hoard bat for his questionable taste

in women So that's where I'm going with that

one. Give me frost over sweet be every single

day How about episode rating for you crystal

castles even though there are several? Issues

with this episode it still did not ruin my enjoyment

of it. I absolutely love this episode I get to

give it a four. All right for for Mike There's

literally only one thing that brings us down

a little bit for me and that is more so on the

animation side I just think they they it was

like we get the joke We don't need it hammered

that much like do a little less of the physical

animated Aspects of him blushing of her swooning

like we get it So if that would have just been

dialed back just a touch this would have been

a five episode for me So I'm gonna knock it down

to four and a half. I love this episode, but

it just missed being perfect. So All right, that

does it for the episode 85 at least we're a little

bit more positive about that one So let's take

one last break and come back with our thoughts

on these two episodes and as we winding down

this track how our how our feelings are overall

for this world of ethereum we brought the entire

convention center to the brink of an inter -genre

geek war okay michael if we're going to tackle

this podcast thing we've got to do something

really special it has to be cool daily in audio

form and undetectable by radar, something that

screams summer. I know, let's do a Phineas and

Ferb review podcast. We'll call it the Podcast

Organization Without a Quillacronym, or Pauka

for short. What do you think? I think if we're

not careful, Candice is going to bust us. You

can find Pauka on the GeekCast, Radio Network,

iTunes, Blog Talk Radio, and all of the other

methods you find podcasts. Alright folks we're

back here on myths of aetheria episode 76 and

Yeah, today was one good one bad That's for sure

There's still a squeezing in a few more characters

that we you know, we get sweet B We got the star

sisters. So even though there's not that many

episodes left We're still finding a way to get

a few more of these characters in here. So It's

it's interesting. I think I can deal with a pretty

bad episode. Not terrible, but a pretty bad episode

if you're gonna pair it with something like we

got with the Sweet B's home episode. That made

the whole episode worth it. I'm excited. We don't

have very many corners of Ethereum still to explore.

But I'm excited to see what else we got. Who

else are we going to see? We're only going to

get so many episodes. How many just standard

Hordak, Shadow Weaver, Shiva plots are we going

to get? And how many times are we going to get

to see some more of these characters? New characters,

recurring characters, whatever it might be. I'm

interested to see what they can squeeze in. Yeah,

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all the way home today, folks. And it's gonna

be messy. Are you ready for more Mists of Etheria?

Or should I not even let you talk? Alright, I

think it's a better idea not to let you talk.

Yes, it's... i don't want to spoil the surprise

folks but that that that there's going to be

very interesting way that episode seventy six

and seventy seven released uh... boy good can

do you anyways in this episode i i made a joke

last week that's that's not the last week you

know i wasn't so that i apologize for it is like

it's on the runaway train now although this is

happening in this episode of this review will

be in your thoughts on episode eighty six Limmer

come home and episode 87 the inspector so we

hope you're ready But it's going downhill from

here, but it's time to go back to a theory It's

not like he can jump through the computer and

make me stop editing the way I edit folks Am

I considering it? Yeah, we can do hop on a plane

This is the fifth load of food we've taken this

week. How can they eat this? I'm glad I'm a robot.

Yeah, all we need is a little oil for... this

week that's had all its food taken by those robot

goons we have to get the food back or a lot of

people are going to starve let's go wait glimmer

we can't why not because we don't have enough

firepower well we can't just sit here and watch

well of course not we'll go back to camp work

out a plan and then come back tonight good idea

what she's doing. Alright, first up today is

episode 86, Glimmer Come Home. Airdate Saturday,

October 31st, Halloween 1987. Written by Stephen

J. Fisher, who, since she's jealous of Adora,

Glimmer tries to begin an action in her own rebellion

against Hordak. So she's breaking out on her

own to show just how powerful she is. Wait, didn't

we see this last week with Bo? Anyways, Hordak,

Shadow Weaver, Imp, and some Horde Troopers,

She - glimmer, madam rasbo, swiftwind, sprags,

brocker, and broom. So what do you think of the

female version of Bo's magical gift? Okay, first

of all, Stephen J. Fisher, gotta go to IMDB just

because I find this making this, doing this makes

the shows a little more interesting exploring

the writer a little bit. So he wrote According

to IMDB, 65 episodes of Dennis the Menace in

1986, he wrote one episode, The Girl Who Cried

Vampire, of the Ghostbusters series in 86. I

don't know if, I'm assuming it's the real Ghostbusters,

let's see. It is, no, it's the film, oh wow,

it's the filmation Ghostbusters. He was a staff

writer in 1965 on days of our lives. Thanks.

Let's see what else. He did Bravestar, Beverly

Hills Teens. He did episodes of Shira. He's done

Do It, Devlin, Small Problems, and Glimmer Come

Home. Oh boy. We're going to see more of him

on this podcast, folks. Yeah. Wow. Two episodes

of the new adventures that he did. And then he

did it. Oh, wow. He was the episode the Cyndi

Lauper episode of Mario 3 He wrote an episode

of James Bond jr. Oh my god, and I adventures

of Sonic the Hedgehog birth of a salesman so

Interesting the plot here. Yeah, you're right.

It's essentially a repeat of last plot except

replace bow with glimmer She feels that she can

do a better plan than She -Ra. She feels that

she is not being utilized as she should be. You

know what I'm really surprised she didn't do

in this episode? What's that? She did not sit

there and pull the royalty card at all. I'm Princess

Glimmer, damn it! My mother's the queen of Brightmoon!

That's the only thing that could have made this

episode worse. I'm just really surprised she

did not do that. Yeah Yeah, this one is just

no boy This plot doesn't work for me, especially

coming so quickly after bows magical gift It's

literally the female version of that and I'm

not on board for this plot at all No at all.

Nope Yeah, right to whispering once we go You

called madam Always nicest. I just I said it

or I've said it the last five or six episodes

of the show folks I want a madam and broom madam

razz and broom comedy hour. I really do I know

we can't get that anymore since Linda's no longer

with us, but oh my god I love those two characters.

They might be outside of Shira. They might be

my favorite characters of the entire series Holy

crap they stole a Mo2 film gag. So I looked at

the dates for this episode and the Gary Goddard

Masters of the Universe 87 film. The 87 film

came out in August of this year and this came

out in Halloween. They stole the... where Shadow

Weaver appears as Glimmer. Kind of like Evelyn

appeared as Julie's mom. I liked it. I thought

it was interesting. That's why it's in my Whispering

Woods mom. I thought it was funny. best line

of the entire series i think it was shadow weaver

that said it but uh... you know skeletal always

say something about humans muscles or human being

the strongest man in the world things like that

yet again i think this is shadow weaver i could

be wrong but you haven't won yet muscle maiden

who doesn't i thought that was all areas there

was that but that's good You got anything for

Whispering Woods? Yeah, I mean, I do think they

do a decent job, I guess, of showing the typical

girl jealousy between Glimmer and Adora. That

is to be expected, I guess. Adora does get all

the attention, et cetera. I thought that Wobbo...

Costume or outfit or whatever the Shadow Weaver

uses was a pretty cool looking thing It almost

reminded me of something that showed up in the

original Planet of the Apes But I thought that

was a cool costume and it's a decent plan by

Shadow Weaver overall As far as what she's trying

to do, so I'll give her that but man outside

of that There's not a lot of good things I can

say about this episode Let's get right to fried

zone then I only have two moments, so I'm gonna

let you get on your soapbox after that all right

damn we just had you know we've already said

it we just had bo going off the rails now glimmer

so shadow weaver traps glimmers this is more

of a technical animation nitpick here shadow

weaver traps glimmers hands but the next time

we see her see glimmers she's free what the hell

apparently that just evaporated or something

yeah absolutely all right what do you got no

i don't have a lot but uh... okay I promised

Horde Prime that Rebellion would be crushed by

the end of the week. That was a dumb line. Like

that's gonna happen or like you're gonna do something

like that. You've been working on it for years.

You're not gonna do it by the end of the week.

Okay, so the Horde Troopers say at the beginning

of this episode that thank God they don't have

to eat this food or whatever. You know, they're

robots. All they need is oil, et cetera. But

now we're going to wrap the whole plot around

the fact that these robots, that all they need

is oil and they're just robots, are going to

be the type of individuals who can decidedly

change their mind and play the role of a disgruntled

employee and turn on Hordak. Like we're trying

to convince Glimmer that that's what they're

capable of. So either Glimmer is the dumbest

box of rocks in Etheria. that she's gonna buy

that these robots are gonna have a change of

heart and go against Hordak? Like, or maybe Shadow

the Weaver's plan was really dumb, but just for

some reason Glimmer fell for it. I mean, how

do you explain that? If you're gonna literally

highlight the fact that these are robots that

have no ability to really think for themselves

and are as far from humans as can be, then we

can't have them switching sides as part of the

plot. Well, yeah, you're right. I'm not gonna

say you're not right you are right, but she basically

Maybe their commands are vocalized. I don't know

it Should have been like glimmer should have

known that there's something up like yeah This

wasn't like catra and grizzlore have come to

her and been like we're fed up These are troops

that are bound to you know what I mean it should

they should have done that differently and then

a very minor nitpick, but they're going through

The end if you raise this food down on a parachute

from literally like a mile in the sky Some guy

go Oh Swift wind and Shearer are dropping food

from us. There's no fucking way in the planet

that you could have seen Yeah, well they had

to Basically show the people getting the food

in some way I guess but you're right. Yeah, what

was the PSA? I for some reason didn't write it

down There's nothing listed here on PSA for me.

So I don't eat It's not even the fact that I

don't like... There was something about Glimmer

and being jealous. Yeah, probably. I just...

I'm so... We've done these review shows for so

long, folks, here in the GeekCast Radio Network,

that I am just beyond dealing with any PSA, whether

it's a good message or not. We've heard all these

messages already so many times before. uh...

it's more it's uh... what do you got for a word

that's a protection source there's just one more

that it goes to glimmer number one for the i

should give four or best of all just like it

did go uh... but but really number one for being

uh... stupid uh... as far as far as for trooper

thing number two being jealous of uh... door

to the point that you can try to do something

on your own get over yourself it's it's princess

or it's a it's freaking shira slash adora like

you're i'm sorry you have to play second fiddle

to that person you have to be okay with it like

that's part of the rebellion so you get a hoard

bed up here you know what any protection swords

no nothing for this one i should give one for

shadow weaver for having a good idea but it's

really not a good idea you just know it's not

a good idea I'm going to give a Horde Bat to

Glimmer as well, so she essentially gets five

Horde Bats, four from you and one from me. I'm

also going to give Protection Swords to Shira,

Raz, and Broom. It doesn't matter what Madame

Raz and Broom are doing, as long as they show

up and they make me laugh, they each get a Power

Sword and a Protection Sword. Alright. For ratings,

what do you got? I could be harsher on this,

I guess, but... Man, I mean, I don't know why

I'm giving it this high of a score. I'll give

it a 2 though. Really? Yeah, I guess a 2. That's

too high, but 2. It only gets a 1 from me, only

because of Madame Rasenbroom. That's pretty much

it, so it gets a 1 from me. Alright, so not a

good start. So let's see if it can go up or down

from here as we take a break and come back with

the return of the Inspector. Go Go Gadget Podcast!

Time to see how this shield works. Good work,

He -Man! Now let's see how the shield works against

free - Oh, sure, I'm fine. Especially now that

I know my new electric force shield works against

explosions and freeze rays. Oh, thanks. That

does feel... Hear me, He -Man. I summon you.

He -Man, what's wrong? Come to Cuffle Grayskull.

Your sister Adora needs your help. Hurry! It's

the sorceress. I have to go to Castle Grayskull

right away. Adora is in trouble. Oh, dearie my,

he meant. But sure a sight for sore eyes. You

can say that again, madam. And I'm glad to see

both of you, too. Now, what's this about Adora

needing my help? Oh, it's terrible, just terrible.

It all began this morning. Tell him, Adora. The

last episode up today is episode 87, The Inspector,

Saturday, November 7th, 1987, J. Larry Carroll.

He -Man is called to a theory after the rebels

were tricked into an ambush and Adora has lost

her sword. After capturing Horde Inspector Darkne,

Adam takes his place and enters the Fright Zone

with Adora as his assistant. So we have Hordak,

Inspector Darkne, Katra, Natasa, or I don't know

why I listed her in the Horde members, Mantena,

Grizzlor, and Horde Prime. Then we have She -Ra,

He -Man, Man -at -Arms, Sorceress, Madame Razboe,

and Natasa. So what do you think about this whole

storyline that's revolving around a recurring

character returning here, the second time we're

going to see Inspector Darkne? as well as a crossover,

as well as She -Ra losing her sword so we just

have a Dora. What did you think of that whole

combination? I liked it. I thought it was interesting.

I thought it was an interesting way to tell the

story. Now, I enjoy this kind of flashback where

the sorceress is basically telling us and showing

us what the hell happened. Not necessarily, hey...

we're all going to sit around the campfire and

then we're going to tell you something that happened

supposedly two three four ten thousand years

ago uh... you know so i enjoyed that uh... looking

at jay larry carol uh... he is by far a very

accomplished writer uh... he's done a lot of

stuff a lot of stuff that you and i both enjoy

is also sure He did one episode of He -Man. It

was Orko's return. Does not say how many, but

he did write on Silverhawks. He wrote on Dennis

the Menace. He did multiple episodes of She -Ra,

including ones that I think will be coming up

after Inspector. He did Portrait of Doom the

Inspector, and I think two that are coming up,

because I don't remember us already doing this

one. Shades of Orko and Swiftie's Baby. Nope.

So she's the last one of the series. So right.

Yeah, I know that yeah, he did brave star He

did the case of the sinister spa in the case

of a cool caveman and cops Beauty and the Beast

TV series thundercats six episodes camp candy

Turtles he did four episodes of turtles in 89

uh... george you know the uh... nineteen ninety

series that was the deep series uh... d a alcatraz

the uh... the two -par there uh... he's done

a lot of stuff in a lot of stuff like i said

that we both really like uh... he wrote one episode

of where on earth is carmen san diego which was

i believe that was the cartoon series in ninety

four uh... the most recent thing Most recent

thing he did was a TV series that I I don't know

how many episodes it lasted but it was Edgar

and Ellen from 2008 the last thing the last major

thing that I noticed him from was diagnosis murder

He wrote eight episodes and then martial law

from CBS. So I mean he's an accomplished writer

and this plot is It's okay, it's not horrible

Uh, I think it's more of that comedic kind of

writing where they're basically showing that

Hordak is just a bumbling fool. I see now why

Skeletor 1 are GCRN wars. Yeah, as you get to

learn more about them. You know, because, um,

you know, I just have fun with Hordak. Like,

I do not see Hordak as a threat anymore. as a

kid and even you know a few years ago I assumed

that Hordak was always this big bad and there's

a reason for that and I'm gonna expand on that

a little bit more but alright it's gonna come

up again so let's have that conversation here

in a minute but Yeah, I mean, the plot is interesting.

There's a lot of stuff going on here. I like

the idea that She -Ra doesn't have her sword,

so we're gonna have to deal with Adora. It makes

sense that she's gonna call for He -Man's help

then, so we got a crossover. And the whole idea

that we're gonna have the inspector coming back,

I guess, is cool because it's always nice to

have a recurring character, so... Think there's

some good elements. It's just kind of how they're

gonna weave that all together is with the question

that we had to have answered by actually watching

the episode so Absolutely, let's let's jump into

whispering woods. What do you got? All right

number one I like that we actually started the

attorney and it was cool once again It's been

so long. Well, we not only get to go back to

attorney, but we get to see He man and mad at

arms testing out gadgets again Like it's you

know, it's it's the reverse of a few podcasts

ago. Stop looking at my notes So I like that

we got to see that that was awesome. We get to

see that That gadget comes into play later, too.

Right, right. We get to see Castle Grayskull

It's been a long time. Yeah. Yeah, like I said

an interesting dilemma for Adora The return of

the inspector Heman insults also been a while

since we get to hear some Heman insults calls

Mantenna bug eyes and stuff like that It was

interesting that the inspector was gonna like

spectate on that battle and see how it went and

I forgot to mention this character in the beginning

but Spicer Was a part of this I guess you could

call him a horde member but or hired by the horde

like a mercenary or something but Spicer the

tricking goes full circle because Just how he

tricked them in the beginning there's a trick

there at the end. So I thought that was kind

of cool how they did that. I like how we think

this is going to have Inspector Darkney playing

a big role in this episode and he's really not

in it at all. No, he's not. Right. And I'd like

to get your thoughts because a few episodes back,

you had stated that if we ever saw Natasha or

spin arela again without the other one Yeah,

you would be upset we get to see that you didn't

think we're gonna see either one of them again.

We see the tosser here She doesn't really get

a chance to do a whole hell of a lot I mean,

she's just kind of there to show part of the

rebellion. I wish spin arela was there I know

it wasn't a story centered around them Mean as

somewhat of almost lukey background care. I mean

she does have a few speaking lines, but It's

just weird not seeing her with Spinella and again

We barely learned anything about Natasha like

we don't know anything about our serious girl

in the background Yeah, and like Siri okay, so

I'm gonna go a little gross here folks So I'm

sorry if you want to fast forward about you know

five or ten seconds What the hell is up with

that? slip around her neck cuz don't get me wrong

folks I get it's a fashion statement it's a part

of her costume but every time I see something

like that all as I can flash to is think of any

crime show I'm not talking about CSI or anything

like that but just think of like you know Dateline

or 2020 or Unsolved mysteries what all as I can

just imagine it like her uh... that's covering

up some sort of injury -related to cut her throat

or something uh... is a little weird uh... but

yeah i know it was a little strange seeing her

here without without spinnerella i'd like to

see her though let's see that she's still part

of the rebellion and what not yeah my only other

moment before you go here is i just thought it

was a funny moment with dark knee at the end

that uh... that spicer kind of has him like that

and then it's like and then a horny makes him

go through the trap door is that the wisest choice

This guy's reporting back to Horde Prime and

you're going to send him through the trap door?

He didn't do it on purpose. He didn't. And see,

here's the thing. I've gotten so used to Mantana

standing on the trap door and so used to seeing

the animators do the background so that you can

clearly see the trap door. I don't know how the

characters, even though they're looking at Horde

Prime, I don't know how the hell they don't realize

they're on a fucking trap door. As soon as Hordak

started pounding his fist on his chair, I just

knew. Even the whole time Darkne was talking

with Hordy, I just knew it was gonna happen.

And lo and behold, it did. And again, this goes

back to the thing I was saying earlier about

basically this whole episode basically showing,

you know... hordak to be comedy relief and everybody

else that is around him and turned into comedy

relief and yeah like i said earlier you're kind

of reading off my notes i didn't write as much

as you do as far as the intro but i was like

you know hey we're starting on attorney and that's

that's really nice is really in this series outside

again everything is outside of secret of the

sword Outside of that the only time we ever really

see Castle Grayskull is for that split second

when by the power of great You know and we see

her standing in front of it But like we actually

you said we actually go to Eternia. We actually

see the castle and I thought that was all cool

fun and interesting I thought again as I said

earlier. I thought it was an interesting way

for He meant to get the information And all I

can think of is the old Bill Cosby thing. Lone

Ranger! Lone Rangers say, Tonto, go to town,

get the information. What's the information?

Information say, no, Tonto, go to town. But yeah,

this is one of those things where that was interesting.

I thought that was cool. What I also thought

was interesting here is that you have He -Man

and a Dora. I thought that was cool. I thought

that was interesting. What I found kinda strange,

and I'm not transitioning to... Well, I'll connect

to that. Well, no, not yet. Well, I got one other

thing. Hey, look, it's the He -Man and She -Ra

Olympics sword to discus. Now we can go straight

to Fright Zone. What I thought was interesting

as far as Fright Zone moments goes, I thought

they kind of lost something here, was we've seen

in the past that Hordak wants the swords. We've

seen that Shadow Weaver has tried to figure out

the map. The Horde Trooper just picks up her

damn sword and just takes it and tosses it somewhere

in the Fright Zone or inside Hordak's pad. The

Horde Trooper doesn't take... the sort of protection

back to hordak like seriously they just throw

it somewhere so she can find it really come on

um okay the only other nitpick i have for fried

zone because i just love this episode the fake

fucking beard come on now people come on animators

you could have colored that yellow to make it

blend in a guy who basically has the tan all

the time even as Adam you know Adam being as

pale as he is you know and having yellowish blondish

whatever the hell you want to call his hair because

I always call Adam slash he man's hair yellow

I don't call it blonde because I just don't think

it's oh whatever but having the brown beard and

I'm like you're gonna get caught in like two

seconds and the sad thing is The villains are

all fucking dumb. What do you got for Pride Zone?

Just a couple little minor nitpicks, I guess.

Number one, why would the inspector tell them

why he's there? Like, when he gets captured,

oh, I'm here, I'm doing this, blah, blah, blah,

blah. You're still part of the horde, you should

know better than that. I was confused at one

point. I'm like, wait a second. Are we going

to act like, I thought they were going to try

to pretend that Adam was Inspector Darkme, in

which case I was going to have a huge problem,

because Hordak's already met him before. But

then they did it a little different. But I didn't

like the fact that he brought Adora with him.

Like, number one, it makes me think that Hordak

should recognize Adora, even if she is somewhat

in disguise. But number two, why would you risk

that? Why take Adora in there when... people

in the Friday Zone know Adora. Yeah. So he managed

to have done that on his own. I would have liked

that almost even better. The other thing is,

there's a moment there where he actually has

to stop her. He has, she's, Hordak's talking

and threatening one of her friends or something

and she's almost about to act and He -Man basically

has to, he basically elbows her. And the whole

thing with Adora, I'm like, what'd you do? Raid

Shadow Weaver's closet. Because I mean, seriously,

if you covered her up a little bit more, she

could almost be Shadow Weaver in that outfit.

And then my last one, and this is not just based

on this episode. This is based on a number of

episodes. But it's happening a lot more recently.

Yeah. And that is the existence of Horde Prime.

Yeah. We're getting a whole lot of Horde Prime

here at the end of She -Ra, and I've come to

the conclusion and the determination that I do

not like Horde Prime as a character. And the

reason I don't like Horde Prime as a character,

besides the fact that it's too many times here

in Any Theory we have these mythical non -body

creatures like Light Hope. Horde Prime and all

this I just don't like that like I want my characters

to have a physical form of some sort, but They've

done well with light hope No, then it's fine

and there's not much to his character He's just

there to be a guidance for Shira But what I'm

saying is as far as appearances, they've done

well with light hope They've used him sparingly

right whereas horde prime ever since horde prime

takes a holiday. He's shown up We've seen he's

his son. We you know, we've you know, we've seen

all this stuff But my big problem here is that

Okay, I get maybe that you want to hint to the

fact that there is someone that is above Hordak.

Or even if you want to tie it in a Skeletor too

and say that there's some type of all -powerful

being that's even above these guys and these

guys are just each on their planet, you know,

doing their thing. I would much rather not have

that though, because all Horde Prime does, in

essence though, by having him as a character,

is belittle our thoughts of Hordak. Like, it

just makes Horde act less of a bad guy, less

of an intimidating force. It counteracts his

power, his badness, his everything, and just

makes him into this comic relief fool that, even

though he's in charge of all these other people,

is just made into a joke in front of Horde Prime.

So I just wish that the Horde Prime would have

never existed. Like, I don't feel like we gained

anything from having this Horde Prime character

and having Hordak have to answer to him and cower

down to him and all this other stuff. I would

rather Hordak just be a badass. Yeah, absolutely.

Let the jokes be Hordak's minions, like it is

in He -Man. Like, Skeletor doesn't answer to

anybody and the jokes are Beast Man and Evil

Lin, and not necessarily Evil Lin, but all these

other folks. Like, yeah, Skeletor sometimes gets

put to shame by He -Man. But that's okay if Hordak

gets put to shame by She -Ra, but she should

be the only one that can do it. Yeah, absolutely.

See, here's the thing here, folks. What I think

happened is, number one, we've said this since

episode 46 of the podcast. That's when we started

the She -Ra series. He -Man and She -Ra are essentially,

they do have their individual traits, but they're

essentially copies of Luke and Leia, okay? And

in turn, Hordak and Skeletor are kind of... At

first I thought there were going to be copies

of Vader and the Emperor, with Skeletor being

Vader and Hordak being the Emperor. Where in

this case, I don't think that's it at all. I

think Skeletor is more of Darth Maul. And then

Hordak is Vader, and then Horde Prime is the

Emperor, because Horde Prime just comes in and

basically just shits all over Hordak, and it's

just not good. Right, it's not good. I'm glad,

I know we, you know, a couple episodes ago we

talked about the comics, and in that episode,

of course people would remember it by now, but

in that episode, I, you know, Ades Barron and

I basically told you about what's going on currently

or what's been going on currently in the DC Comics

continuity for the He -Man series that they've

been running since 2012 and so far to my knowledge

in that entire series we've never seen a Horde

like we've never seen a Horde Prime type character

at all and it's just so much better and this

show She Were the Princess of Power should have

done something With Horde Prime other than just

showing him as this giant cloud and one hand,

right? Yeah, I just don't get what you didn't

sir. He didn't make anything better in this entire

franchise so far so Yeah, oh well the PSA was

just about that real quick it was about That

you need a you need your family or loved ones

so that you can turn to them in a time of need

Any Hordebats for you? Yeah, I got two of them.

One goes to Inspector Dark Knee because why are

you giving away your plan and what your mission

is and what your purpose is on Etheria to the

Rebellion? You just, you know it's the Rebellion.

You know you're captured. Why would you do that?

And then, like I just said, not that it deserves

it because of this episode, but enough's enough.

I can't take any more Hordebat to Horde Prime.

Yeah, yeah Me I don't really have any horn bats,

but I do have some protection swords So what

do you got for protection so just one and and

that's gonna go to he man I liked him in this

episode quite a bit My protect I gotta give a

little bit of an explanation because we didn't

get to bring this part up You know, so hordak

freezes part, you know part of the rebel rebel

leaders and puts them in jail, right? And he

sits there and does this whole explanation that

the jail is made of the most powerful metal in

the universe. So it's supposedly more powerful

than He -Man and She -Ra. And he goes to demonstrate

this, and they lock him in the cell. I thought

that was so hilarious. I have to give Mordak

a protection sword just for that moment, because

that was awesome. I'm also going to give one

to He -Man and She -Ra as well because just,

again, as I said in episode 76, just seeing them

and the continuity that the writers are kind

of building up for them and just seeing their

interactions is absolutely awesome. What about

a rating for you? I am, well I, yeah, it's hard.

I like this episode quite a bit. And there's

not really that much bad. I think Horde Prime

ruins it a little bit for me, so it knocks it

down to a four for me, but it is a good episode.

I gotta give it a five. Even though Horde Prime's

there, it's still... This was just so much fun.

Absolutely loved this episode. Yeah, so we ended

it. I mean, this is weird. This is very similar

to last episode, because we started on a bad

episode that are both very similar with Bo and

then with Glimmer this week. And then we had

an episode that was so much better, which was

a crossover episode coming second, that both

worked phenomenally. So hey, if we can get, like

I said, not last episode, but two episodes ago.

If we can get one good episode for every one

bad episode the rest of the way through I'll

be fine. That would mean we'd get about four

or five six Hopefully good episodes out of the

final 10 to 12. I'd be fine with that Absolutely

All right, we're gonna take a final break come

back to close the show after this We are back

here folks on myths of a theory episode 77 We

only got like three episodes left until we hit

Christmas special folks first time either one

of us have really Every Christmas since we started

this part. We started this podcast in 2012 folks

every Christmas since 2012 I've seen bits and

pieces of the Christmas special. I know what

the Christmas specials plot is. I don't know

it just off the top of my head memory, but I

do remember parts of it. I remember that, you

know, it's He -Man, She -Ra, Skeletor, blah,

blah, blah, blah, and all that, but I have not

actually watched the Christmas special in a very

long time, so it's gonna be an interesting, very

merry -mo -to Christmas this year for us. Any,

uh, any final thoughts on either these two episodes,

or what, you know, we got basically... Basically

got like six episodes left. So yeah, like I said

I'm just hoping for like three or four good ones

after this like three or four real good solid

ones because I Need some good ones to finish,

you know filling out my top ten episodes of the

series So I'm hoping for some hoping for some

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