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Wild Child and The Greatest Magic Review

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OptimusSolo and TFG1Mike close out She-Ra Season 1 with episodes 64 and 65. Wild Child frustrates with a poorly-executed volcano disaster plot and weak voice acting, redeemed only by Madame Raz and Broom's banter. The Greatest Magic shines as a Trolla crossover episode featuring well-developed new characters, solid magic-versus-technology storytelling, and Larry DiTillio's sharp writing. The hosts reflect on Season 1's uneven character roster and preview Season 2.

Fuck I did it again I Pulled another Michael

Wilson fuck what I didn't even hit the goddamn

button You need to get one of those that automatically

starts recording as soon as it picks up Sorry,

I thought I hit it Can I really go whenever I'm

ready? Mm -hmm and defender of the Crystal Castle.

This is Spirit, my beloved steed. Fabulous secrets

were revealed to me the day I held aloft my sword

and said, For the honor of Grayskull! Among them

are Light Hope, Madam Raz, and Kaol. Together,

we and my friends of the Great Rebellion strive

to free Issyria from the evil forces of Hordak!

Hello, this is Optimus Solo and welcome to the

68th chapter in our Powers of Grayskull series.

With me for this journey, as he has been for

the previous 67 chapters, is TFG1 Mike. Hello.

This is 68 .5, folks. The original 68 did not

survive the cutting room floor. We were only

10 seconds in. But yeah, we've both been at 68

straight episodes. Neither one of us has missed,

for any reason, sickness, emergency, nothing.

It's been the two of us together. 68 episodes

in a row. Unlike him where he chickened out on

mask at 14 podcasts. That's all I could take

of that show So that has to say something of

the Masters of the universe franchise that at

least I'm still going strong You know, I said

this in take one for this thing I said I think

we ought to change the format of the show and

go to two cartoons per podcast that way it would

last till 150 episodes because Two cartoons is

a hell of a lot easier than three. Hey, I Remember

once upon a time where we're talking about doing

four or five in one episode. So I've always done

it. Well, I think the thing is I've been doing

the Phineas and Ferb show with Peek on Chrome

Michael. And we generally do those one full 30

minute, 23 minute cartoon episode per podcast,

which has two 11 minute cartoons in it. Right.

So I'm so used to doing that. Well, luckily,

you'll get a little bit more of that as we move

forward. But in this episode, like you said,

we're only going to be talking about two episodes,

the final two of season one of Sheer of Princess

of Power. We have episode 64, Wild Child, and

episode 65, The Greatest Magic. Now, I know last

episode, we kind of teased a little bit about

doing season one recap. And for those that have

been going with us for the last 68 episodes,

you're probably thinking we're going to give

you a lot of bunch of numbers and statistics

and trivia and favorites and least favorites.

We're actually we decided we're gonna hold off

on that a little bit and the reason being is

because Season 2 of She -Ra is not necessarily

that long So 28 cartoons, right? So since it's

only 28 cartoons and we're gonna be covering

it fairly quickly I think it's what 1 2 3 4 5

6 7 8 9 10 11 There's 11 podcasts that we'll

be using on season 2 So instead of having a season

1 breakdown and then like immediately doing a

series breakdown. We're gonna save that Until

the end since we're only going to be doing 11

more podcasts. So we'll hold off on that We will

give some general thoughts on season one, but

we're mainly going to be focusing on the greatest

magic and wild child Mike are you ready? I'm

ready ready to close the chapter Willing I'm

ready, but I don't know if I'm willing I feel

like I'm you know a hostage here at this point

because it just seems like and I know we'll get

into this when we talk about the two episodes,

but I understand. This was the 80s, folks. The

80s has nothing to do with serialization of cartoons.

It's all one -shot stories, one -episode stories.

There's continuity in He -Man and She -Ra, but

it's not like, say, Justice League or Batman

the Animated Series or Batman Beyond, where it's

got an overall arc and continuity. And it just

seems like, and like I said, we'll get into this

further when we talk about the two episodes.

The way I felt about the ending of the season

Oh just as a season ender like not even teasing

anything Sadly anti -climactic. I got to steal

a line from the Joker from from Batman Beyond

It just felt like it. I like the episodes. It

just I don't know. I'm so used I'm so used to

television or cartoons nowadays Giving us something

or ending something or giving us something to

look forward to and while these two episodes

are great Because I'm so used to that one format

now. It's like going back to this like wait what

that's how it ends Well, I mean, I think there

is something to say though. There is a lost art

of just being able to have an entertaining episode

or entertaining You know all encompassing show

that you don't have to watch anything before

after that You can just kind of pick up and say

watch an episode here watch an episode there

and enjoy it for what it is I think it's I think

it's almost a lost art. I mean I get it And I'm

a big continuity fan. I like how everything runs

together and ties in together. And don't get

me wrong, everybody knows that that's been listening

to the last 67 episodes. But there is something

to say for a certain audience or a certain demographic

that just wants to be able to pop an episode

and watch it and be done with it. That's true

for the other 63 episodes. The other well even

evenly the 65th episode the ending of season

1 I was expecting even without looking at the

episode name or whatever I was expecting some

sort of big finale leading into season 2 because

the only reason why I'm saying that is because

we now live in an age where cartoons and television

do that kind of stuff right and Obviously back

then they didn't right and it's a little it's

a little jarring It doesn't take away my enjoyment

from either one of the episodes, but I have a

feeling we're gonna disagree on at least one

of these episodes Oh, yeah, I can already tell

you right now. There's one where I don't have

any whispering woodwoods moments So we're ready

and we hope you guys are ready because it's time

once again to go back to Etheria What have you

got to say? What have I got to say? It's not

my fault that your garden is a mess. Listen,

Cowell, I know and you know how much you like

fresh vegetables, but why did you have to mess

up my prize winners? Oh, you've been out in the

sun too much, Bo. I haven't been near your prize

losers. Why, you featherbrain! Wait, Bo. Cowell's

right. Something else has ruined your vegetables.

could never wilt leaves like this but what could

have done it I don't know pretty quiet tonight

don't complain when it comes to garden the rebel

camp no noise is good noise what's that where

what right there there is no such thing Did you

say white ghosts? Well, yes, ma 'am. Where did

you see these ghosts? Right there. All right.

Let's check it out. This vegetation is just like

Bo's garden. Look, what's this? It's the crest

of the Green Island Kingdom. Doesn't make sense.

The Green Islands are hundreds of miles away,

and no one from there has ever even visited Whispering

Woods. But there's no doubt that that's where

the Locket came from. No doubt at all. There's

only one way to find out what's going on. Madame

Raz, can you take the Locket to Green Islands?

King Arbor will have an explanation. Well, you

know where they are, don't you? Of course! In

a North growlin' sea! No! The South growlin'

sea! It's the North! South! North! South! I hope

they get the direction worked out before they

accidentally fly into the Fright Zone. Oh, they'll

be okay. But I can't stand around waiting for

them to get back. Keep an eye on things here

in camp. I'm going to have a look around these

woods. Yeah, I do know that it's counting three,

four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, shut up,

go. OK. First up today, like we said, is episode

64. It's the Wild Child. Dun, dun, dun, dun,

dun, dun, wild. No, I'm sorry. That's something

different. That's. It was an air date of Wednesday,

December 4th, 1985, written by Don Heckman, who

we've seen before. Plot synopsis. Something is

wrong with the plants and vegetables of the Whispering

Woods. Several of the rebels and woodsmen blame

a pack of, quote, white fangs led by a mysterious

white ghost that has been roaming the area. It's

up to She -Ra to figure out who is responsible

for these white ghosts and white fangs and what

is killing the vegetation of the Whispering Woods.

Alright something killed your microphone. Just

apparently I have my own black thing that was

not enjoying the conversation. So Anyways, we

have she we have Shira Mermista bow glimmer metameras

cowl and broom and a bunch of woodsman rebels

and Villagers, etc along with Princess Allegra

and King Arbor. So yes, his fucking name is King

Arbor What are your thoughts sir of? the wild

child plot here about ghosts and white whispering

woods and fangs and people. Can we go to another

generation for a moment? Because as soon as I

heard the name Princess Allegra, I'm like, where's

Basso Profundo? And what you know, it's like,

you know, that that blaster episode from from

Transformers where they have the the musical

harmony. I thought you were going to go to Allegra's

window on Nickelodeon. Yeah, yeah. I'm like,

yeah, what's going on? Carnage in C minor, that's

what it is. I love that episode. I don't care

what anybody says. Oh, Lord. That's a fun episode,

anyway. This was okay. The princess wasn't as

annoying as 90 % of the other kids. She was annoying,

but she wasn't like so annoying that I wrote

down 20 different notes of shut the hell up.

I like the plot overall for the most part. Essentially,

it's just a gardening plot. The whole episode

is a natural disaster, essentially. Yeah, I mean,

you could say that. Okay, this is one of those

plots that I was actually intrigued by because

we are talking about ghosts possibly or some

type of mystery some type of mysterious figure

some type of Problem or dilemma that's gonna

have to be solved. It's not just Here's the device

that's causing this or here's you know a foe

to fight It's there's something weird going on

and we have to use our brains and try to figure

out a mystery So that part of the plot I am intrigued

by Unfortunately, that's not the episode we get

so I Mean I'm a fan of the setup to the plot

and that's it Yeah, the execution honestly Sucks.

Well, let's get into how much it sucks. Let's

let's just get right to it. Let's take a break

Let's come back and we'll talk whispering woods

if there's any fright zone if there is Not too

much to bore everybody with. And we'll get into

why this episode doesn't work. Just plain sucks.

Seems quiet enough. We're back, and if you are

one that is looking for positivity in your life

and looking to hear good things about She -Ra

and the Princess of Power, you might want to

skip ahead a little bit because I think it's

about to get downright nasty. Let's take a brief

trip to Whispering Woods just to see if there

are anybody, if there is anybody still looking

for any live vegetation or plant life in the

Whispering Woods. So, Mr. TFG1Mike, do you have

anything good to say about Wild Chat? Madam Raz

and Broom for the win. They're like an old married

couple. Seriously. I love them. I love the two

of them. That's one of the two things that saved

this episode from being a zero, folks. But yeah,

Madam Raz and Broom. I love the looks that she

gives Broom when he's interrupting her, trying

to help her to make sure she remembers the story.

And then she just throws her hands up at him.

It's like, oh my god. Yeah, that is so my mom

to my dad. And what was the other? The other.

All right. Get ready, because I'm going to break

everyone's brain, including Kevin's. I'm ready.

The second best part of this episode is Bo. What?

Yep. I found Bo to be not as annoying as he usually

is. Granted, he only has two or three lines here,

but... He wasn't his annoying self, for the most

part, and compared to the rest of the episode,

he is the lesser of the two saving graces here.

Obviously, for me, Madame Raz and Broom are the

best, but yeah, Beau pretty much saved this episode

from being a zero. Wow. Okay. You're reading

my notes again, so I'd like you to stop that.

So please, please knock that off because my first

you on that one. I was very happy to see them

and to kind of get their interactions, and that

was good. Like I said before, I did like the

setup of this whole ghost story, mysterious angle.

I like that on paper. So that is a positive.

Outside of that, Mermista is here, so I enjoy

when she's there, I guess. But, well, and also

she's there and it makes sense because they're

dealing with some water, you know, things and

whatever. So it doesn't seem like it's forced

in there. So I do like that. I'll get a little

bit more into that later, but I do like that

she makes an appearance. And I will say that

they do do a decent job of having a cliffhanger

in the episode break with Princess Allegra. Like

it was like a moment that seemed like a good

time to take a commercial and leave the kids

wondering about what would happen. outside of

that the whispering woods is is just a ghost

town it all the vegetation is dead yes it's living

up to the premise so let's just mosey on over

to the fright zone really seriously we might

as well find another place because the fucking

fright zone is closed at this point no no horde

members at all they don't You know, you kept

saying that you enjoy the ghost aspect, the mystery

aspect. We never even find out who the fuck the

ghost was. At all. Like, it wasn't her. Right.

She said it wasn't her. So, who the hell was

that? Like, are the white fangs supposed to be

the ghost? I don't know. Well, I think it was

that she was able to do that and then she was

able to make herself appear. I don't know how.

Yeah, Don Heckman, go somewhere else. Don't write

any more cartoons. Okay, so She -Ra, she uses

sword to rope. Twice. To rope the rock. It's

then shown as she's dragging it through the sky

while riding Swift Wind. And then, two seconds

later, she swings it above her head. What the

hell? There's no way... She would have fallen

off that damn unicorn. She's that strong. I don't

care if she's the strongest woman in the universe.

There is... Just... The logistics is just...

And I already mentioned no horde, no real action.

Because really seriously, like I said, this is

a natural disaster episode. She spends all her

time throwing rocks into mountains and doing...

flybys of the ocean so the waves can get into

the thing to stop the volcano, which is actually

the... They made a natural disaster of the villain.

Is this a Michael Bay episode in disguise, seriously?

Do we have to drill 800 feet over here? I mean,

come on, give me a break. And the science of

all this shit is just so bad. Don't get me started

on the science. And the only problem I have with

the kid, this is my last one, the only problem

I have with the kid, I had no problem with the

princess up until the very end when she starts

speaking in tongues or whatever the hell language.

I'm like, wait, is this, are we in some Iraqi

Jihad camp or something? What the hell is this

shit? You just went there. Yeah, I had to. Anything

else? No, that's it. What do you got? Okay. Let

me catch my breath. All right, first of all,

why does Bo have a garden? I would like to know

this. I would like an answer, Don Heckman. Why

did you write in there that Bo has a garden?

He's been emasculated enough. Stop with this

nonsense. Why is that fucking glimmer or fucking

Madame Raz or cowl or anybody else but Bo? Where

in God's green earth has Madame Raz and Broom

and the Twigget, Sprigget, whatever the fuck

you call them, where have they been? Yeah, I

don't know. Like, we have not seen hide in our

hair except for little, you know, like... Cameos

or little background supporting characters. There's

been nothing about these characters And it's

it's been sorely missed and I didn't realize

it until I saw them together and was like wait

I remember this was a fun part of the series

that we've been missing for a long time It seems

like so I don't understand where they've been

I mean it was good that they were here because

it's the only good thing about this episode Those

woodmen woodsman, man. They are Some stereotypes

there Like, they are not PC. Like, the way they

talk, the accents that are used on them, the

intelligence level, I don't know. I don't know

if that would fly these days. Does Mermista have

a different voice every time we see her? I haven't

even. We haven't seen her enough for me to really

notice. I don't know. It's an absolute terrible

accent in this episode. Like, it is awful. I

could hardly stand listening to her, and I'm

starting to hope that we don't get to see more

of Mermista, and I thought that was going to

be one of my favorite characters. Allegra's voice

is also terrible. I would rather listen to Allegra

from the Transformers. At least that would rhyme.

It had the potential to be a cool character,

and it's performed so poorly that it just ruins

it for me big time. And the voice on the white

fang... Is the worst voice work I've ever heard

for an animal Yeah, that is maybe I'm just spoiled

by Frank Welker and D Bradley Baker and some

of these guys that can do animals that was clearly

just a voice actor trying to impersonate an animal

that had no idea what to do And let's not go

too far into this whole volcano thing. I Throwing

rocks into it is going to put it out. That's

not how it works. That does not No, and you don't

get to just throw some water on it to cool down

a volcano and Where the fuck did the volcano

storyline come from? Dig down and find somebody

they were gonna find like a machine or some piping

or like a Underground creature or some shit they

found a fucking she's digging with some weird

I guess she'd carved out a piece of land and

is digging and all of a sudden there's just fucking

fire. You've seen, I'm pretty sure you've seen

or you know about Batman's giant penny in the

Batcave from Two -Face. Yeah. Okay, that's essentially

what she fucking has she has a fucking giant

dime and That's like she dug that out of the

ground and now she's using she's trying to eat.

Oh my god We have this somewhat decent setup

like we have this idea that there's this mysterious

Something's causing death and destruction to

the plant life vegetation Whatever we'll go there

and then we have these white fangs and we got

this You know princess long -lost whatever that

has something to do with it like I'm thinking

it as far as like the plot part goes And then

we're going to go into the fact that it's a volcano

causing it all. Then we're going to get into

this stupid, stupid masters of the universe physics

where we throw rocks at things and do things

with waves and wind and whatnot to make this

somehow work. It was way too fucking convenient

of a solution. And then it's just like, Hey,

there's this huge volcano. We're going to throw

some rocks on it and that's going to solve everything.

So this aired Wednesday, December 4th, 1985,

five years before Earth fire, wind, water, and

heart. By your powers combined, I am Captain

Planet. Essentially, this was a precursor to

Captain Planet, for crap's sake. And it's not

just that, though. I don't know. There's so many

things. The animal language that she is talking

to those animals with was invented in two seconds.

Somebody spent literally two seconds coming up

with what that was going to be. It was like,

hey, what would this animal language sound like?

And the first idea that came into someone's head,

and they just spit it out, and that's what happened.

they used. That was not thought out. It sounded

like gibberish and stupid nonsense. The only

other cool thing, I don't know if it's cool or

if it's good, but the only interesting thing

I found was when Shira tried to use her mental

powers and she says that they're too angry and

it's blocking me. Her interaction with the animals

was decent. I like her parts with the animals.

And then they gotta hit you over the head with

it. The fucking king's name is King Arbor. Like

fucking Arbor Day. Yeah, are you kidding me?

And somebody goes tree and she fucking abandons

her animals immediately at the end Mm -hmm She's

been living to like protect these animals and

secure them and this that and the other and she

meets her dad and she's First of all, it doesn't

make sense because she's been separated for a

dad for a long ass time, right? And her reasoning

was that she had to protect these animals and

that was her life now So clearly she doesn't

give a fuck about her dad Because she's gonna

return at any time and now all of a sudden she's

like, oh, but I do want him to know that I'm

okay Didn't they say it's been like five or seven

years? Or something. It was something like she

like went missing when she was like seven and

now she's 12 Now you want him to make sure that

you're okay. He's just had five years of trauma

thinking you're dead And then so you clearly

don't care you don't make any attempt to meet

him to give him a message or anything And now

at the end of the episode he's like hey come

home, and she's like fuck you animals. I'm out

of here Mm -hmm this episode is garbage It is

and the PSA is about vegetables being important

which makes me want to stab my own eyeballs out

I'm sorry. This episode's awful. We need to take

a break before I blow a gasket and recreate that

volcano. So we'll be right back with some hardware

because I got something to hand out to a couple

people. Oh, dearie, I certainly do. The locket

you found belonged to King Arthur's daughter,

Princess Allegra. But how did it get here? Oh,

wait! There's more. The princess disappeared

five years ago. When she was seven! What? Oh,

oh yeah, well, I thought you left. Oh, where

was I? Oh, yeah, her sailboat hit a storm off

the coast, and she was never heard from again.

Her father's desperate to find her. He's already

on his way here. Now you listen to me, Broom.

I've had enough of your interruptions. I just

wanted to be sure you got the story straight.

What? Dearie, I always get my stories straight.

I don't get it. How could her locket get from

the growling sea to whispering woods? Good question.

Mermista knows what goes on in the ocean waters?

Maybe she can help us. All right. Our first out

of two opportunities to hand hardware out. And

I'm still trying to cool down over here. So I'm

going to pass it over to Mike. While you're,

you know, having some AC poured all over you.

OK, so. I need those waves that cool that volcano

fucking down. I know, right? All right. So here's

the thing. Everyone else, except for Madame Raz,

Broom, and Bo, get a horde bat. Even I get a

horde bat, the second horde bat I've gotten because

it's the second time out of 65 episodes or 64

episodes that I've noticed fucking Lukey. He

was so blatantly there because he's in the scene

where Adora goes to walk away from the scene

to turn into She -Ra. And immediately I saw him

and I'm like, oh my God, why is he holding a

blue triangle? They go to the end of the episode

and he unfolds. It's his fucking tail. He's touching

himself. He's masturbating in the background

of this cartoon. Are you kidding me? For Power

Swords, Madame Raz, Bo, and Broom. Absolutely.

They were the saving graces for this episode.

Those three characters are the only reason why

this episode does not have a double zero. Alright.

I appreciate that you've handed out some horbats.

Of course. I gotta be a little more specific

with mine. I gotta take one and shove it up his

ass sideways. Don Heckman, get away from my cartoons.

Get the fuck away from my cartoons. This is absolute

ass nine writing and you had a decent premise

and you just fucked it up beyond belief. And

the whole volcano angle is so absolutely fucking

stupid that it ruins any chance that this episode

would be decent with She were interacting with

these wolves or whatever you want to call them

with this mystery thing and something Something

that we don't know is causing some destruction

and then it's a fucking volcano And that's just

I don't want to make it seem like that's the

only thing that's making me shit on this episode

There's a billion things which I outlined some

of them, but I could have I could have written

like 20 notes for phrase zone Yeah, all right.

I'm also and I hate to do this, but I also have

to give a specific horde bat to Melanie Britt

and Linda Gary Okay, because one of them is voicing

a legger that would be Linda Gary And well Melanie

Britt is voicing Mermista and the two voices

for those characters, and I guarantee one of

them, I don't know, it could have been Erica

Shimer, I guess, but it's most likely one of

the other two is doing the voice for that animal

thing. The voice work is awful, and even if the

writing had been good, I couldn't have scored

this episode positively because of the voice

work. It is awful, awful, awful, awful. And then

whoever invented that animal language, whoever

you are, mystery person, hopefully it's one of

the people I'm already giving a hornbat to, because

you should get one too. It's probably Hekman.

He probably worked in there and created it himself.

Absolutely asinine. So that's it. There's no

power swords. I can't give one out. Even if I

liked Madame Raz and Broom, this episode does

not deserve power swords. Protection swords.

I generally agree, but I'm sorry the argument,

the back and forth that the two of them have.

I have to give them power swords because there's...

You're the only saving grace for me for this

episode. We keep giving people power swords.

We're supposed to be giving people protection

swords. Whatever. Alright. This thing just won

as a jewel in the hilt. Well, one turns into

a lot of things. And in this episode it should

have turned into a match to burn the script away.

What is your Crystal Castle rating for this episode?

One and a half. One and a half? Yep. I was wrong

with my prediction of your score. I thought you

were going to be even with me. I thought we were

on the same page. This gets a half. Crystal crystal

to me. It gets a half. I am so close to giving

this episode a fucking zero except I like Shearer's

interaction with the wolves and I like Madame

Raz and Broom. Otherwise, this is one of the

worst episodes we've seen and it's the second

to last episode of season one and it's so disappointing.

This is why I said at the very beginning of the

podcast, it's kind of sadly anti -climactic.

Regardless if it's continuity or not, it's still...

Very anticlimactic. Let's hope the final episode

is better. I'm about to show everybody how bipolar

I can be In that - It's after all... It's nice

to meet you, but could you tell me what I'm doing

here? Yeah, what are we doing here? Oh, there's

big trouble, Orko. The Crimson Council has disappeared.

The second and last episode up today is episode

65, the last one of season one, and it's all

about the greatest magic. Airdate Thursday, December

5th, 1985. Written by Larry DiTillio. Finally,

a good writer. While visiting the Great Rebellion,

Orko is summoned back to Tralla. along with,

accidentally, She -Ra. There, Uncle Montork,

Dre -El, and the rest of the trial and people

need their help after the disappearance and the

kidnapping of the Crimson Council. We have She

-Ra, Madame Raz, Dre -El, Orko, and Uncle Montork.

And then we have, get ready for this, Foozabella

the Mukus, Dr. Zug, Blim the High Muk Muk, A

Face with a Ramp, Big Ugo, Warden umpty and some

various other trials including First of all before

we get into general things here the face with

a ramp I believe that was a his tongue coming

out of his eyeballs because No, I'm serious because

I swear as they were running up the thing it

It sounded like this, like he was really impaired.

He couldn't talk properly because someone was

stepping on his tongue. I gotta get to, I gotta

know though, Mike, we've had a lot of different

crossover episodes. We've seen He -Man, we've

seen Skeletor, you know, we've seen all this,

you know, He -Man and She -Var together, Skeletor

and Hordak together. Were you expecting, or what's

your take on - a crossover episode, I'm not talking

about getting into the actual nuts and bolts

of whether you like the episode or not, but what's

your thoughts of a She -Ra episode where it's

a complete crossover just with Trala? I like

it. I think it's cool. I think it's interesting.

I think it's fun. I had a hell of a lot more

fun watching this than I did the previous episode.

Do Orko and Madame Raz actually have a character

in her? Yeah, at the very beginning they're training

magic. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's a scene with the

whole rebellion and Madame Raz and Orko and Orko

says thanks for trading magic with me or whatever.

Oh, okay So yeah, like I've been wondering for

the past 64 episodes I know that originally when

I listen to the commentary on some of the DVD

versions of The Secret of the Sword that that

Larry D 'Itilio said that They wanted to make

a female version of Orko but not really have

Orko there hence why that's Madame Raz and she's

essentially the absent -minded witch hazel kind

of character and I always wondered if they were

gonna team up and That's one of the reasons why

I love this one is because it's a very brief

team up between Madame Raz and oracle I think

that's very cool the other thing this episode

on a few of the episodes Previous have started

to do is it we've got a shift away in the series

from it being more of a Unique experience or

a extreme situation that causes these worlds

to interact or or people to move from one world

to the other and it seems like in recent times

it's it's shifted to something that's done very

frequently and Without much thought, you know

what I mean? Like they can just kind of go from

Etheria to Eternia and back and forth whenever

they want to these days. I'm not saying it's

good or bad, but it just definitely seems like

before, like when we started with She -Ra, it

was more of a, the sorcerers had to open a portal

or something. you know, dire straights had to

be going on to do this. And now it seems like

it's much more like Orca is just kind of going

to do some magic with Madame Raz and He -Man

and She -Ra are bouncing back and forth because,

you know, just based on the last few crossovers,

which is an interesting transition, I guess.

Well, I think the thing here is, they've also,

they stated this a couple of times recently in

the last, I'd say, 10 episodes of the series

here, between 55 and 65 of the cartoons, that

it's no longer the sorceress dealing with it,

it's Light Hope dealing with it. And sometimes

they don't even explain it at all. The thing

here with Montork, he opened the portal himself.

Right. He was trying to grab Orko. No, but I'm

saying about how Orko was there to begin with.

Oh, um... You know what I mean? Like, he's very

much... You don't actually see him travel from

Eternia to Etheria, yeah. So it just must be

that they're just able to do this free -willingly.

I guess. So, I mean, I think it's an interesting

thing, because you wouldn't think, you know,

if Shearer's gonna interact with somebody from

Eternia, you think it's gonna be He -Man or Adam.

Maybe the sorceress and maybe Skeletor and Hordak

are gonna interact, but you would never think

that it's gonna be Orko without those other people.

So I think that's a very interesting dynamic

they set up for this episode. The one thing,

and maybe I should say this for the end, but

the one thing I'll say for this entire first

season that I was outside of Secret of the Sword

that I was really disappointed with, not enough

cringer. I mean, I get it that, you know, he

can't always be there, but a lot of the crossovers...

Did I think I've seen Cringer once this entire

series with the crossovers? Yeah All right. Well,

let's take a quick break We'll come back make

our second and only other trip to the Whispering

Woods and Fryzone and see if we can manage to

stay in the Whispering Woods a little bit longer

than last Let's hope Thank you. Thank you. It's

nice to meet you. But could you tell me what

I'm doing here? Yeah, what are we doing here?

Oh, there's big trouble, Orko. The Crimson Council

has disappeared. Hoppin' hoobies. That's trouble.

We need your magic badly, but I can send you

back, She -Ra. No reason for you to get involved.

Orko is my friend. I'll stay. Aw, thanks, She

-Ra. Alright, so we find ourselves back in the

Whispering Woods, hopefully for a little bit

longer than we were with the last episode's visit.

And Mike, what did you like about the greatest

magic? Everything about this episode was just

fun. The whole thing with Trala, Montork, pulling

them through. I thought that was very fun. Starting

off with Orko at the Rebel camp and doing training

with Madame Raz, that was fun. you know, something

we've very rarely gotten He -Man. Like, I can

remember maybe one or two times we ever really

went to Trala and it wasn't as fun as this. I

don't know if it's because of the series change,

because from He -Man to She -Ra, like, it wasn't

as dire, but, you know, we get Driel, we get

Orko, we get Montork, we get, we even get Tralan

villains. Like, I never expected an either show

to ever see Tralan villains. I mean, I really

don't, we've been doing this podcast so long,

folks. I really don't remember the villains from

the original He -Man trolling episode, so if

anyone wants to comment on the post and let me

know. But yeah, we get two kind of cool trolling

villains here, I love that. And honestly, because

of Outside of Madame Raz, Broom and Bow, the

shitstorm that was the previous episode, I just

started having fun with this. I love everything

about this episode, so I just didn't even take

any more notes other than those two. I mean,

it's just so fun. refreshing, interesting. You

know, you got the Crimson Council, you got the

guard who was trapped in the jail, and you got

these two trawling villains who put the whole

Masters of the Universe thing, you know, magic

versus technology to, you know, we get back to

that. We haven't had that a lot. You know, I

mean, technically we've had it throughout Shiro

with with Whispering Woods and all the rebels

being mad, not all the rebels being magical,

but you know what I mean? And then Hordak having

the technology. But it's been a while since that

kind of plot was front and center. The only thing

I'll say about these final two episodes, and

maybe I should say this for you, but I just can't.

My brain's all over the place. So. Only thing

I didn't really like of outside of all the shit.

We didn't like about the last episode There's

no horde in either one of these which is I mean,

it's fine, but I don't know I just seemed kind

of off. Yeah What do you like about this? Well,

first of all, I mean random madam Raz and orco

trading magic just to start the episode You're

just like what I'm intrigued immediately. Like

that's the first scene and you're just like what's

going on here? Orco knows everybody's secrets

Not just he man, you know, she wrote a secret

as well Because she transforms directly in front

of him. So... Yeah, okay, yeah. And the other

thing I want to point out, when I mentioned about

noticing Lukey in the last one, she runs right

by him and transforms. So essentially he's hiding

right there and even he knows the secret. So,

the whole thing with only three people, Madame

Raz, Broom, or Madame Raz, who the hell is the

other one? Kyle Allen. Madam Raz, Cowl, and Light

Hope are the only three I know. Orko knows, Luke

he knows. Orko might be one of the only ones

that knows both He -Man and She -Ra's secret

identities. Okay, in 22 minutes or whatever this

tagged in on, granted we already know Driel and

we already know Uncle Montork and Orko, but in

22 minutes, Datilio is able to give us six characters

that are well -developed and Interesting. Like,

Foozabella and Blim are great together. Like,

the two, the Muck Muck and the Muck S. Like,

their interaction is fantastic. It's like something

out of an old TV show that just doesn't done

anymore. And then you - You know what it reminded

me of? It reminded me of if Mad Madame Mim and

Merlin were actually married and not villains

of each other. Like, it really reminded me of

the Sword and the Stone from Disney. Absolutely.

But the warden guy was cool in his couple seconds.

The council guy was cool in his last little couple

seconds. The villains, Dr. Zoog and Big Ugo,

like, they were fantastic. Like, every character

in here seemed like, hey, I would like to know

more about, can we have an orco series? Can we

just have a trala series? Like, I would have

been down for that back in the day, because there's

some cool characters here. And even some just

fun moments for kids and stuff like that. The

nose pulling on the face entrance by that machine.

I mean, come on, you're expecting, you know,

if there's an entrance, you're expecting it to

be like a structure and, you know, you have to

hit it with a ram or something to get in. But

no, this thing's just like pulling on its nose,

making it red. What a great line that Detilio

puts in there from She -Ra. This thing has more

arms than multibot. Yeah, perfect reference to

something else that we would know and she would

know from the series. Yeah flotsam prison So

close to Folsom prison. Oh Yeah, that it was

awesome the way they said that there was a cool

effect on the water Going up to that to show

the magical spell or whatever with like the the

wasn't just like a glimmery shiny water It was

like almost like a incandescent color effect

to it Sparkling that I just like the villain

here. We finally get a decent use of Shira's

power where she's not breaking the laws of physics.

She's just pushing something real hard. Like

I get that maybe she shouldn't be able to move

this whole thing, but she is supposed to be strong.

But at least it's something you can buy. Like

she's literally just pushing something. She should

have pushed a little bit more though, because

I think if it was completely off the radar, he

would have never known it was still there. He

would have just assumed that it was gone. I thought

that's the angle they were going to go where

he's like, there's an explosion, there's smoke,

and then it's just gone. But they didn't quite

do that because you could still see it in the

radar. And he's like, wait a second. I actually

you wouldn't think I would do this, but I actually

like the idea that They have the ability to work

magic through loved ones I thought that was a

cool touch. It wasn't some cheesy, I'm gonna

have a one -tear drop, or love is gonna fix the

day. I can channel because I'm connected to this

person in a magical way to begin with through

love. I can connect with them and work my magic

through them. It's not just everything was saved

because of love. So I enjoyed that. I only have

one Fryzone moment. Yeah, I only have one Fryzone

moment, too. What is your Fryzone moment? Okay.

Let's see here. Didn't like Driel's jealousy

at the beginning, but luckily, luckily they didn't

make it a huge issue. I didn't like it either,

but it is so typical of women. No. Well, throughout

the episode, both Orko and She -Ra say, my friend,

my pal. But that is what, that is how a woman's

brain works. No, yeah, I know it is disturbing

but it is true I'm glad that the tillio dropped

it immediately as soon as as soon as Driel says

the line, okay I'm not leaving you alone, especially

with her It was almost like the tillio was like

channeling something he experienced like his

wife or somebody at one point was probably like

Said something something about Let's hope that

never happened to you, but I'm just saying like

I could just see that like you had one experience

with a significant other that once was like Who's

this like give me a break? My only fright zone

moment is Dr. Zoo gets terrible with a joystick

He's like, let me get the aim back and then he

goes buy it and has to come back and misses it

again Like he apparently has never played a video

game And all I think of is Luke dodging Vader.

The Force is strong this one. And I should have

a Fright Zone moment as well for the PSA. I didn't

watch it. The PSA was literally about pets and

that they require a lot of care. okay now this

would have okay so the vegetable one does the

eating healthy one doesn't really fit either

one of these episodes but the pets one would

have fit the last episode we got two PSA's in

a row about eating vegetables and taking care

of your pets yeah shoot me now but overall not

too much negative to say about this episode so

let's take a quick break we'll come back and

have our final award ceremony for season one.

Help! Help! Oh, no! Oh, my grimps and grappies.

What is it? It's a machine, I think, and I don't

like it. But let's see how it deals with a little

muscle Don't mention it This thing doesn't know

when to quit All right, it's a last chance for

season one to get a few more pieces of trophy

and awards out of your trophy case. Mike, what

do you got? Any Horde bats or protection swords

here? Swords for everybody. Sword for Larry,

sword for Shira, sword for Orko, sword for Drea,

swords for everybody. Absolutely loved everything

about this episode. It was a million times better

than episode 64. It was fun. It was interesting.

It was enlightening to see Troll and villains.

I thought that was cool. So yeah, protection

swords for everybody. I am, as always, more specific

than you. I will give a protection sword out

to Mr. Larry Detilio, orco, and then I'll be

a hypocrite because I'm not going to be specific.

I'll give a protection sword out for all of Troll.

The whole of Trala gets a protection sword. Right

down its equator, splitting the planet in half.

No horde bets for me. Episode was too fun, too

positive. Mr. TFG, your last rating of Season

1 is? 5. And I will echo that. 5 out of 5. So

we end on a positive note, even if it didn't

give you the cliffhanger you were hoping for,

at least it was a good freaking episode and not

like 64. Right? Yeah, let's never speak of season

one episode 64 ever again. All right, we're gonna

take one final break when we come back We'll

give you our thoughts in brief on season one

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up Season one, we got to put a bow tie on it.

We got to send it off to sea, let it sail, and

get ready for what is season two. So what are

your final thoughts on season one? He said we

got to put a bow tie on it. No. You leave bow

in his ties alone. There was no pun intended.

Yeah, pun was very much intended on this end.

I don't know. Speechless. I I like season one

Okay, but there are only out Secretos sort of

separate it just fucking is it's it's the way

they presented that was a movie the way I Originally

saw it was a movie. I know it's five separate

episodes that they you know narrated and whatever

else But to me that's that's the movie and that's

separate you know That I will always watch when

I want to watch he man and she were together

Hold on, I want to watch He -Man and She -Reduce

Star Wars. The rest of the season, there are

probably out of the 60 episodes that are left,

taking into account those five not counting in

this, out of the 60 remaining episodes, there

are probably 15 or 20 that I'll never watch again.

just because I don't care about them, just because

that the villains or lack of villains just aren't

in my wheelhouse, I can safely say I will never

watch Wild Child ever again. That is, I know

we've given zeros to two episodes before that

episode. The only reason why I will ever watch

Wild Child ever again And really I won't have

to because I will have already grabbed the audio

is to hear Madame Raz and broom argue with each

other That's the only good thing about that episode

Overall season one was good at least towards

the end. They stopped somewhat Emasculating the

men yeah You know and I don't really think that

the women in he -man were treated too terribly

because I thought that was the whole thing, you

know, why they wanted to create a female superhero

for girls and everything else. And that's fine.

I have no problem with that. But like, I thought

that was the whole point of them basically creating

an all -girls show pretty much. And then, you

know, the men end up, you know, as Hans and Franz

would say, girly men, you know, because essentially

that's what some of them turned into. The disappointment

for me on the season is The final two episodes,

while I love The Greatest Magic, or yeah, yeah

that's what it's called, while I love the Trollen

episode, the final two episodes had nothing to

do with the Horde, at all. That's your main villain!

Like, I get, like, if - He's still trying to

get the flowers out of himself. that should have

been the season finale switch the greatest magic

with flowers for hordak that would have been

the best season ending ever what about you um

i guess here's my take so far and it's going

to be i guess maybe a sneak peek to some of my

thoughts on the overall series uh it's been up

and down like with he -man it was more Excitement

excitement. I like I like like and then like

all the season is getting old Let's make it end

please and then it would do it again like the

next season or whatever But this has been up

and down and up and down and it's like here's

four great episodes. Here's two shitty episodes

Here's three great episodes. Here's one shitty

episode like it just keeps going back and forth

but my biggest takeaway right now is I Am struggling

to find characters that I like in this outside

of some of the side characters like we have with

you know broom and Madame Raz and Right, you

know Kyle whoever it was whichever one you gravitate

towards like right like in the He -man series

by now. I have like I like Stratos. I like zodiac

I liked you know, there's multiple people that

I was like, oh if this is an episode containing

this character I'm gonna be excited with this

series I'm not excited because it's gonna have

Glimmer. I'm not excited because it's going to

have Mermista in it anymore or because it's going

to have Queen Angela or even the villains, Catra,

Scorpia. Who am I supposed to be excited about?

Yeah. So I mean, it leaves it where it's like,

well, I hope it's a crossover because that seems

to be the good episode. Yeah. So I'm a little

disappointed. I thought I have fond memories

of Mermista, of Frosta and Probably one or two

other ones that we haven't seen yet and so far

i've been disappointed with their uh appearances

in their per you know frost I think it's more

so just because she hasn't been in it Outside

of like little cameos and mermista i'm just so

thrown off by the the weird voices and stuff

that's coming out of her And why can't there

be a fucking mermista and merman episode? Like

just give me a water -centric episode with those

two involved, but here's my thoughts looking

forward Usually, I have not, like we've said

many times, we have not seen She -Ra, I have

not seen any episodes of She -Ra basically since

I was a kid. So I watched them growing up, and

now this is my, you know, 20 years later self

or whatever watching this. Yeah, however old

I am. And basically, I don't know what's coming

up. I don't know what season two and season three

are gonna hold. I know they're each short seasons,

like, 14 episodes each. Well, there's only season

two. There is no season two. Well, I mean, technically

some break it down into two seasons, but... Well,

they're wrong. You know, there's only 28 episodes

left, regardless. Yeah. Now, so I don't know

a lot about what's going to come up, but normally,

typically what would happen in the 80s is you

will, in the second season... or whatever comes

after the first season, however many seasons

it is, you would have the introduction of new

toys. So you would have to have episodes that

were featuring these new characters, new toys,

et cetera, to try to sell them. So I'm assuming

we're still gonna have four, five, six new characters

that we're gonna see, because I know, like I

said before, that there's toys that we haven't

seen yet. So I'm assuming that there are season

two characters. So at least maybe I will like

some of them and then look forward to those episodes.

I don't care if they're bad, good, or whatever,

just give me some characters that I can... look

forward to episodes that they are in. Because

right now, I'm more interested in, like, hey,

like, that episode with General Sunder was cool,

and that episode with that other bad Horde character

was cool. Like, I'm more excited about these

side one -off, like, minor characters than I

am about it, you know, outside of Modulok, I

guess, has some cool episodes. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know either So I'm kind of like

bummed at some of the episodes or some of the

characters that I thought I was gonna like and

I'm really searching for Favorite characters

that I haven't found yet and 65 episodes should

be long enough to find them Yeah, I remember

over the last four Four years that we've been

doing this whole thing That I remember when we

were when we were prepping for the Shira part

of the show that I said to you that I had seen

several season one episodes on Q boo or whatever

it was I saw him on TV and They were only ever

season one episodes like so I Mean I haven't

like you in 30 years, and I don't even remember

outside of secret of the sword as a kid I do

not remember seeing any of these episodes as

a kid. I know that for a fact but when we were

doing He -Man and stuff, they would show some

of the stuff on this kid's channel here locally

that I would catch every now and then. But most

of it was reruns of the Seahawk Returns or whatever

else. So season two for me is completely fresh

and completely new. I do not remember any of

that shit at all. For those of you that are looking

forward to more of our... chapters of, you know,

powers of Grayskull, et cetera. We're going to

wrap this up in a little bit different way because

we have basically 11 episodes left to go through

She -Ra. And the first half are going to be just

like we have been doing with three episodes a

piece. And then those final five episodes are

just going to be two first, like we did today.

So we're going to have six episodes with three.

And then we're going to have five episodes that

just cover two a piece. Can we just record those

six episodes in one whole week and be done with

it? No, I want some more Shira in my life. I

want some more Shira in my life. And that'll

take us through episode 93 of Shira, Princess

of Power, and the end of this journey. And then

we're going to have some recaps, et cetera. But

that's kind of what's to look forward to. So

you have 11 more episodes proper. of She -Ra

episodes and then some special stuff. And then

next year we get to new adventures. I've never

seen that, so that'll be a fun adventure. Okay,

so, since we're talking about this, before I

close the show, as a kid, and I think I've mentioned

this in the last four years on this show, I thought

Eternia was back. I thought the classic filmation

was back in 1990. And as a 10 -year -old in 1990

who had just started watching The Simpsons, because

my mom let me watch anything I wanted, pretty

much, you know, radar movies notwithstanding,

you know, whatever, I was excited to see the

new adventures of He -Man. And then I saw it

and I'm like... Where's Castle Grayskull? Where's

Skeletor? Where's the real Skeletor? Where's

where's this? Where's that? So yeah, I mean I

had seen several episodes of new adventures,

but I Do not remember that Show for anything

And as I've said before, like before we started

this run here at the end of the year of 2015,

when I did the, when we did the content update

03 that essentially what's going to happen next

year is we're going to have two cycles. We're

going to have one cycle where we, we, where we

released the new adventures episodes. And then

the end of the year, uh, somewhere around, I

think September or October or however many 15

episode or 10 episodes, I don't even know how

many it is. You know, by December 31st next year,

this whole show will be done. So December 2017,

Powers of Grayskull will be completed. You're

welcome, Tim Silvers. He mentioned to me on Twitter

a while ago, I don't know how you guys are gonna

get through all this. And I'm like, wait, you

listening to it or us producing it? He's like,

you producing it. I'm like, don't worry, there's

a plan. Yeah, I mean, the new adventures is only

25 episodes and the reboot is only 15. 15, yeah.

So it'll be fairly easy. We've tackled the big

ones already. Thank God. All right. Thank you

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