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Wild Child and The Greatest Magic Review

About this Episode
Fuck I did it again I Pulled another Michael
Wilson fuck what I didn't even hit the goddamn
button You need to get one of those that automatically
starts recording as soon as it picks up Sorry,
I thought I hit it Can I really go whenever I'm
ready? Mm -hmm and defender of the Crystal Castle.
This is Spirit, my beloved steed. Fabulous secrets
were revealed to me the day I held aloft my sword
and said, For the honor of Grayskull! Among them
are Light Hope, Madam Raz, and Kaol. Together,
we and my friends of the Great Rebellion strive
to free Issyria from the evil forces of Hordak!
Hello, this is Optimus Solo and welcome to the
68th chapter in our Powers of Grayskull series.
With me for this journey, as he has been for
the previous 67 chapters, is TFG1 Mike. Hello.
This is 68 .5, folks. The original 68 did not
survive the cutting room floor. We were only
10 seconds in. But yeah, we've both been at 68
straight episodes. Neither one of us has missed,
for any reason, sickness, emergency, nothing.
It's been the two of us together. 68 episodes
in a row. Unlike him where he chickened out on
mask at 14 podcasts. That's all I could take
of that show So that has to say something of
the Masters of the universe franchise that at
least I'm still going strong You know, I said
this in take one for this thing I said I think
we ought to change the format of the show and
go to two cartoons per podcast that way it would
last till 150 episodes because Two cartoons is
a hell of a lot easier than three. Hey, I Remember
once upon a time where we're talking about doing
four or five in one episode. So I've always done
it. Well, I think the thing is I've been doing
the Phineas and Ferb show with Peek on Chrome
Michael. And we generally do those one full 30
minute, 23 minute cartoon episode per podcast,
which has two 11 minute cartoons in it. Right.
So I'm so used to doing that. Well, luckily,
you'll get a little bit more of that as we move
forward. But in this episode, like you said,
we're only going to be talking about two episodes,
the final two of season one of Sheer of Princess
of Power. We have episode 64, Wild Child, and
episode 65, The Greatest Magic. Now, I know last
episode, we kind of teased a little bit about
doing season one recap. And for those that have
been going with us for the last 68 episodes,
you're probably thinking we're going to give
you a lot of bunch of numbers and statistics
and trivia and favorites and least favorites.
We're actually we decided we're gonna hold off
on that a little bit and the reason being is
because Season 2 of She -Ra is not necessarily
that long So 28 cartoons, right? So since it's
only 28 cartoons and we're gonna be covering
it fairly quickly I think it's what 1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 There's 11 podcasts that we'll
be using on season 2 So instead of having a season
1 breakdown and then like immediately doing a
series breakdown. We're gonna save that Until
the end since we're only going to be doing 11
more podcasts. So we'll hold off on that We will
give some general thoughts on season one, but
we're mainly going to be focusing on the greatest
magic and wild child Mike are you ready? I'm
ready ready to close the chapter Willing I'm
ready, but I don't know if I'm willing I feel
like I'm you know a hostage here at this point
because it just seems like and I know we'll get
into this when we talk about the two episodes,
but I understand. This was the 80s, folks. The
80s has nothing to do with serialization of cartoons.
It's all one -shot stories, one -episode stories.
There's continuity in He -Man and She -Ra, but
it's not like, say, Justice League or Batman
the Animated Series or Batman Beyond, where it's
got an overall arc and continuity. And it just
seems like, and like I said, we'll get into this
further when we talk about the two episodes.
The way I felt about the ending of the season
Oh just as a season ender like not even teasing
anything Sadly anti -climactic. I got to steal
a line from the Joker from from Batman Beyond
It just felt like it. I like the episodes. It
just I don't know. I'm so used I'm so used to
television or cartoons nowadays Giving us something
or ending something or giving us something to
look forward to and while these two episodes
are great Because I'm so used to that one format
now. It's like going back to this like wait what
that's how it ends Well, I mean, I think there
is something to say though. There is a lost art
of just being able to have an entertaining episode
or entertaining You know all encompassing show
that you don't have to watch anything before
after that You can just kind of pick up and say
watch an episode here watch an episode there
and enjoy it for what it is I think it's I think
it's almost a lost art. I mean I get it And I'm
a big continuity fan. I like how everything runs
together and ties in together. And don't get
me wrong, everybody knows that that's been listening
to the last 67 episodes. But there is something
to say for a certain audience or a certain demographic
that just wants to be able to pop an episode
and watch it and be done with it. That's true
for the other 63 episodes. The other well even
evenly the 65th episode the ending of season
1 I was expecting even without looking at the
episode name or whatever I was expecting some
sort of big finale leading into season 2 because
the only reason why I'm saying that is because
we now live in an age where cartoons and television
do that kind of stuff right and Obviously back
then they didn't right and it's a little it's
a little jarring It doesn't take away my enjoyment
from either one of the episodes, but I have a
feeling we're gonna disagree on at least one
of these episodes Oh, yeah, I can already tell
you right now. There's one where I don't have
any whispering woodwoods moments So we're ready
and we hope you guys are ready because it's time
once again to go back to Etheria What have you
got to say? What have I got to say? It's not
my fault that your garden is a mess. Listen,
Cowell, I know and you know how much you like
fresh vegetables, but why did you have to mess
up my prize winners? Oh, you've been out in the
sun too much, Bo. I haven't been near your prize
losers. Why, you featherbrain! Wait, Bo. Cowell's
right. Something else has ruined your vegetables.
could never wilt leaves like this but what could
have done it I don't know pretty quiet tonight
don't complain when it comes to garden the rebel
camp no noise is good noise what's that where
what right there there is no such thing Did you
say white ghosts? Well, yes, ma 'am. Where did
you see these ghosts? Right there. All right.
Let's check it out. This vegetation is just like
Bo's garden. Look, what's this? It's the crest
of the Green Island Kingdom. Doesn't make sense.
The Green Islands are hundreds of miles away,
and no one from there has ever even visited Whispering
Woods. But there's no doubt that that's where
the Locket came from. No doubt at all. There's
only one way to find out what's going on. Madame
Raz, can you take the Locket to Green Islands?
King Arbor will have an explanation. Well, you
know where they are, don't you? Of course! In
a North growlin' sea! No! The South growlin'
sea! It's the North! South! North! South! I hope
they get the direction worked out before they
accidentally fly into the Fright Zone. Oh, they'll
be okay. But I can't stand around waiting for
them to get back. Keep an eye on things here
in camp. I'm going to have a look around these
woods. Yeah, I do know that it's counting three,
four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, shut up,
go. OK. First up today, like we said, is episode
64. It's the Wild Child. Dun, dun, dun, dun,
dun, dun, wild. No, I'm sorry. That's something
different. That's. It was an air date of Wednesday,
December 4th, 1985, written by Don Heckman, who
we've seen before. Plot synopsis. Something is
wrong with the plants and vegetables of the Whispering
Woods. Several of the rebels and woodsmen blame
a pack of, quote, white fangs led by a mysterious
white ghost that has been roaming the area. It's
up to She -Ra to figure out who is responsible
for these white ghosts and white fangs and what
is killing the vegetation of the Whispering Woods.
Alright something killed your microphone. Just
apparently I have my own black thing that was
not enjoying the conversation. So Anyways, we
have she we have Shira Mermista bow glimmer metameras
cowl and broom and a bunch of woodsman rebels
and Villagers, etc along with Princess Allegra
and King Arbor. So yes, his fucking name is King
Arbor What are your thoughts sir of? the wild
child plot here about ghosts and white whispering
woods and fangs and people. Can we go to another
generation for a moment? Because as soon as I
heard the name Princess Allegra, I'm like, where's
Basso Profundo? And what you know, it's like,
you know, that that blaster episode from from
Transformers where they have the the musical
harmony. I thought you were going to go to Allegra's
window on Nickelodeon. Yeah, yeah. I'm like,
yeah, what's going on? Carnage in C minor, that's
what it is. I love that episode. I don't care
what anybody says. Oh, Lord. That's a fun episode,
anyway. This was okay. The princess wasn't as
annoying as 90 % of the other kids. She was annoying,
but she wasn't like so annoying that I wrote
down 20 different notes of shut the hell up.
I like the plot overall for the most part. Essentially,
it's just a gardening plot. The whole episode
is a natural disaster, essentially. Yeah, I mean,
you could say that. Okay, this is one of those
plots that I was actually intrigued by because
we are talking about ghosts possibly or some
type of mystery some type of mysterious figure
some type of Problem or dilemma that's gonna
have to be solved. It's not just Here's the device
that's causing this or here's you know a foe
to fight It's there's something weird going on
and we have to use our brains and try to figure
out a mystery So that part of the plot I am intrigued
by Unfortunately, that's not the episode we get
so I Mean I'm a fan of the setup to the plot
and that's it Yeah, the execution honestly Sucks.
Well, let's get into how much it sucks. Let's
let's just get right to it. Let's take a break
Let's come back and we'll talk whispering woods
if there's any fright zone if there is Not too
much to bore everybody with. And we'll get into
why this episode doesn't work. Just plain sucks.
Seems quiet enough. We're back, and if you are
one that is looking for positivity in your life
and looking to hear good things about She -Ra
and the Princess of Power, you might want to
skip ahead a little bit because I think it's
about to get downright nasty. Let's take a brief
trip to Whispering Woods just to see if there
are anybody, if there is anybody still looking
for any live vegetation or plant life in the
Whispering Woods. So, Mr. TFG1Mike, do you have
anything good to say about Wild Chat? Madam Raz
and Broom for the win. They're like an old married
couple. Seriously. I love them. I love the two
of them. That's one of the two things that saved
this episode from being a zero, folks. But yeah,
Madam Raz and Broom. I love the looks that she
gives Broom when he's interrupting her, trying
to help her to make sure she remembers the story.
And then she just throws her hands up at him.
It's like, oh my god. Yeah, that is so my mom
to my dad. And what was the other? The other.
All right. Get ready, because I'm going to break
everyone's brain, including Kevin's. I'm ready.
The second best part of this episode is Bo. What?
Yep. I found Bo to be not as annoying as he usually
is. Granted, he only has two or three lines here,
but... He wasn't his annoying self, for the most
part, and compared to the rest of the episode,
he is the lesser of the two saving graces here.
Obviously, for me, Madame Raz and Broom are the
best, but yeah, Beau pretty much saved this episode
from being a zero. Wow. Okay. You're reading
my notes again, so I'd like you to stop that.
So please, please knock that off because my first
you on that one. I was very happy to see them
and to kind of get their interactions, and that
was good. Like I said before, I did like the
setup of this whole ghost story, mysterious angle.
I like that on paper. So that is a positive.
Outside of that, Mermista is here, so I enjoy
when she's there, I guess. But, well, and also
she's there and it makes sense because they're
dealing with some water, you know, things and
whatever. So it doesn't seem like it's forced
in there. So I do like that. I'll get a little
bit more into that later, but I do like that
she makes an appearance. And I will say that
they do do a decent job of having a cliffhanger
in the episode break with Princess Allegra. Like
it was like a moment that seemed like a good
time to take a commercial and leave the kids
wondering about what would happen. outside of
that the whispering woods is is just a ghost
town it all the vegetation is dead yes it's living
up to the premise so let's just mosey on over
to the fright zone really seriously we might
as well find another place because the fucking
fright zone is closed at this point no no horde
members at all they don't You know, you kept
saying that you enjoy the ghost aspect, the mystery
aspect. We never even find out who the fuck the
ghost was. At all. Like, it wasn't her. Right.
She said it wasn't her. So, who the hell was
that? Like, are the white fangs supposed to be
the ghost? I don't know. Well, I think it was
that she was able to do that and then she was
able to make herself appear. I don't know how.
Yeah, Don Heckman, go somewhere else. Don't write
any more cartoons. Okay, so She -Ra, she uses
sword to rope. Twice. To rope the rock. It's
then shown as she's dragging it through the sky
while riding Swift Wind. And then, two seconds
later, she swings it above her head. What the
hell? There's no way... She would have fallen
off that damn unicorn. She's that strong. I don't
care if she's the strongest woman in the universe.
There is... Just... The logistics is just...
And I already mentioned no horde, no real action.
Because really seriously, like I said, this is
a natural disaster episode. She spends all her
time throwing rocks into mountains and doing...
flybys of the ocean so the waves can get into
the thing to stop the volcano, which is actually
the... They made a natural disaster of the villain.
Is this a Michael Bay episode in disguise, seriously?
Do we have to drill 800 feet over here? I mean,
come on, give me a break. And the science of
all this shit is just so bad. Don't get me started
on the science. And the only problem I have with
the kid, this is my last one, the only problem
I have with the kid, I had no problem with the
princess up until the very end when she starts
speaking in tongues or whatever the hell language.
I'm like, wait, is this, are we in some Iraqi
Jihad camp or something? What the hell is this
shit? You just went there. Yeah, I had to. Anything
else? No, that's it. What do you got? Okay. Let
me catch my breath. All right, first of all,
why does Bo have a garden? I would like to know
this. I would like an answer, Don Heckman. Why
did you write in there that Bo has a garden?
He's been emasculated enough. Stop with this
nonsense. Why is that fucking glimmer or fucking
Madame Raz or cowl or anybody else but Bo? Where
in God's green earth has Madame Raz and Broom
and the Twigget, Sprigget, whatever the fuck
you call them, where have they been? Yeah, I
don't know. Like, we have not seen hide in our
hair except for little, you know, like... Cameos
or little background supporting characters. There's
been nothing about these characters And it's
it's been sorely missed and I didn't realize
it until I saw them together and was like wait
I remember this was a fun part of the series
that we've been missing for a long time It seems
like so I don't understand where they've been
I mean it was good that they were here because
it's the only good thing about this episode Those
woodmen woodsman, man. They are Some stereotypes
there Like, they are not PC. Like, the way they
talk, the accents that are used on them, the
intelligence level, I don't know. I don't know
if that would fly these days. Does Mermista have
a different voice every time we see her? I haven't
even. We haven't seen her enough for me to really
notice. I don't know. It's an absolute terrible
accent in this episode. Like, it is awful. I
could hardly stand listening to her, and I'm
starting to hope that we don't get to see more
of Mermista, and I thought that was going to
be one of my favorite characters. Allegra's voice
is also terrible. I would rather listen to Allegra
from the Transformers. At least that would rhyme.
It had the potential to be a cool character,
and it's performed so poorly that it just ruins
it for me big time. And the voice on the white
fang... Is the worst voice work I've ever heard
for an animal Yeah, that is maybe I'm just spoiled
by Frank Welker and D Bradley Baker and some
of these guys that can do animals that was clearly
just a voice actor trying to impersonate an animal
that had no idea what to do And let's not go
too far into this whole volcano thing. I Throwing
rocks into it is going to put it out. That's
not how it works. That does not No, and you don't
get to just throw some water on it to cool down
a volcano and Where the fuck did the volcano
storyline come from? Dig down and find somebody
they were gonna find like a machine or some piping
or like a Underground creature or some shit they
found a fucking she's digging with some weird
I guess she'd carved out a piece of land and
is digging and all of a sudden there's just fucking
fire. You've seen, I'm pretty sure you've seen
or you know about Batman's giant penny in the
Batcave from Two -Face. Yeah. Okay, that's essentially
what she fucking has she has a fucking giant
dime and That's like she dug that out of the
ground and now she's using she's trying to eat.
Oh my god We have this somewhat decent setup
like we have this idea that there's this mysterious
Something's causing death and destruction to
the plant life vegetation Whatever we'll go there
and then we have these white fangs and we got
this You know princess long -lost whatever that
has something to do with it like I'm thinking
it as far as like the plot part goes And then
we're going to go into the fact that it's a volcano
causing it all. Then we're going to get into
this stupid, stupid masters of the universe physics
where we throw rocks at things and do things
with waves and wind and whatnot to make this
somehow work. It was way too fucking convenient
of a solution. And then it's just like, Hey,
there's this huge volcano. We're going to throw
some rocks on it and that's going to solve everything.
So this aired Wednesday, December 4th, 1985,
five years before Earth fire, wind, water, and
heart. By your powers combined, I am Captain
Planet. Essentially, this was a precursor to
Captain Planet, for crap's sake. And it's not
just that, though. I don't know. There's so many
things. The animal language that she is talking
to those animals with was invented in two seconds.
Somebody spent literally two seconds coming up
with what that was going to be. It was like,
hey, what would this animal language sound like?
And the first idea that came into someone's head,
and they just spit it out, and that's what happened.
they used. That was not thought out. It sounded
like gibberish and stupid nonsense. The only
other cool thing, I don't know if it's cool or
if it's good, but the only interesting thing
I found was when Shira tried to use her mental
powers and she says that they're too angry and
it's blocking me. Her interaction with the animals
was decent. I like her parts with the animals.
And then they gotta hit you over the head with
it. The fucking king's name is King Arbor. Like
fucking Arbor Day. Yeah, are you kidding me?
And somebody goes tree and she fucking abandons
her animals immediately at the end Mm -hmm She's
been living to like protect these animals and
secure them and this that and the other and she
meets her dad and she's First of all, it doesn't
make sense because she's been separated for a
dad for a long ass time, right? And her reasoning
was that she had to protect these animals and
that was her life now So clearly she doesn't
give a fuck about her dad Because she's gonna
return at any time and now all of a sudden she's
like, oh, but I do want him to know that I'm
okay Didn't they say it's been like five or seven
years? Or something. It was something like she
like went missing when she was like seven and
now she's 12 Now you want him to make sure that
you're okay. He's just had five years of trauma
thinking you're dead And then so you clearly
don't care you don't make any attempt to meet
him to give him a message or anything And now
at the end of the episode he's like hey come
home, and she's like fuck you animals. I'm out
of here Mm -hmm this episode is garbage It is
and the PSA is about vegetables being important
which makes me want to stab my own eyeballs out
I'm sorry. This episode's awful. We need to take
a break before I blow a gasket and recreate that
volcano. So we'll be right back with some hardware
because I got something to hand out to a couple
people. Oh, dearie, I certainly do. The locket
you found belonged to King Arthur's daughter,
Princess Allegra. But how did it get here? Oh,
wait! There's more. The princess disappeared
five years ago. When she was seven! What? Oh,
oh yeah, well, I thought you left. Oh, where
was I? Oh, yeah, her sailboat hit a storm off
the coast, and she was never heard from again.
Her father's desperate to find her. He's already
on his way here. Now you listen to me, Broom.
I've had enough of your interruptions. I just
wanted to be sure you got the story straight.
What? Dearie, I always get my stories straight.
I don't get it. How could her locket get from
the growling sea to whispering woods? Good question.
Mermista knows what goes on in the ocean waters?
Maybe she can help us. All right. Our first out
of two opportunities to hand hardware out. And
I'm still trying to cool down over here. So I'm
going to pass it over to Mike. While you're,
you know, having some AC poured all over you.
OK, so. I need those waves that cool that volcano
fucking down. I know, right? All right. So here's
the thing. Everyone else, except for Madame Raz,
Broom, and Bo, get a horde bat. Even I get a
horde bat, the second horde bat I've gotten because
it's the second time out of 65 episodes or 64
episodes that I've noticed fucking Lukey. He
was so blatantly there because he's in the scene
where Adora goes to walk away from the scene
to turn into She -Ra. And immediately I saw him
and I'm like, oh my God, why is he holding a
blue triangle? They go to the end of the episode
and he unfolds. It's his fucking tail. He's touching
himself. He's masturbating in the background
of this cartoon. Are you kidding me? For Power
Swords, Madame Raz, Bo, and Broom. Absolutely.
They were the saving graces for this episode.
Those three characters are the only reason why
this episode does not have a double zero. Alright.
I appreciate that you've handed out some horbats.
Of course. I gotta be a little more specific
with mine. I gotta take one and shove it up his
ass sideways. Don Heckman, get away from my cartoons.
Get the fuck away from my cartoons. This is absolute
ass nine writing and you had a decent premise
and you just fucked it up beyond belief. And
the whole volcano angle is so absolutely fucking
stupid that it ruins any chance that this episode
would be decent with She were interacting with
these wolves or whatever you want to call them
with this mystery thing and something Something
that we don't know is causing some destruction
and then it's a fucking volcano And that's just
I don't want to make it seem like that's the
only thing that's making me shit on this episode
There's a billion things which I outlined some
of them, but I could have I could have written
like 20 notes for phrase zone Yeah, all right.
I'm also and I hate to do this, but I also have
to give a specific horde bat to Melanie Britt
and Linda Gary Okay, because one of them is voicing
a legger that would be Linda Gary And well Melanie
Britt is voicing Mermista and the two voices
for those characters, and I guarantee one of
them, I don't know, it could have been Erica
Shimer, I guess, but it's most likely one of
the other two is doing the voice for that animal
thing. The voice work is awful, and even if the
writing had been good, I couldn't have scored
this episode positively because of the voice
work. It is awful, awful, awful, awful. And then
whoever invented that animal language, whoever
you are, mystery person, hopefully it's one of
the people I'm already giving a hornbat to, because
you should get one too. It's probably Hekman.
He probably worked in there and created it himself.
Absolutely asinine. So that's it. There's no
power swords. I can't give one out. Even if I
liked Madame Raz and Broom, this episode does
not deserve power swords. Protection swords.
I generally agree, but I'm sorry the argument,
the back and forth that the two of them have.
I have to give them power swords because there's...
You're the only saving grace for me for this
episode. We keep giving people power swords.
We're supposed to be giving people protection
swords. Whatever. Alright. This thing just won
as a jewel in the hilt. Well, one turns into
a lot of things. And in this episode it should
have turned into a match to burn the script away.
What is your Crystal Castle rating for this episode?
One and a half. One and a half? Yep. I was wrong
with my prediction of your score. I thought you
were going to be even with me. I thought we were
on the same page. This gets a half. Crystal crystal
to me. It gets a half. I am so close to giving
this episode a fucking zero except I like Shearer's
interaction with the wolves and I like Madame
Raz and Broom. Otherwise, this is one of the
worst episodes we've seen and it's the second
to last episode of season one and it's so disappointing.
This is why I said at the very beginning of the
podcast, it's kind of sadly anti -climactic.
Regardless if it's continuity or not, it's still...
Very anticlimactic. Let's hope the final episode
is better. I'm about to show everybody how bipolar
I can be In that - It's after all... It's nice
to meet you, but could you tell me what I'm doing
here? Yeah, what are we doing here? Oh, there's
big trouble, Orko. The Crimson Council has disappeared.
The second and last episode up today is episode
65, the last one of season one, and it's all
about the greatest magic. Airdate Thursday, December
5th, 1985. Written by Larry DiTillio. Finally,
a good writer. While visiting the Great Rebellion,
Orko is summoned back to Tralla. along with,
accidentally, She -Ra. There, Uncle Montork,
Dre -El, and the rest of the trial and people
need their help after the disappearance and the
kidnapping of the Crimson Council. We have She
-Ra, Madame Raz, Dre -El, Orko, and Uncle Montork.
And then we have, get ready for this, Foozabella
the Mukus, Dr. Zug, Blim the High Muk Muk, A
Face with a Ramp, Big Ugo, Warden umpty and some
various other trials including First of all before
we get into general things here the face with
a ramp I believe that was a his tongue coming
out of his eyeballs because No, I'm serious because
I swear as they were running up the thing it
It sounded like this, like he was really impaired.
He couldn't talk properly because someone was
stepping on his tongue. I gotta get to, I gotta
know though, Mike, we've had a lot of different
crossover episodes. We've seen He -Man, we've
seen Skeletor, you know, we've seen all this,
you know, He -Man and She -Var together, Skeletor
and Hordak together. Were you expecting, or what's
your take on - a crossover episode, I'm not talking
about getting into the actual nuts and bolts
of whether you like the episode or not, but what's
your thoughts of a She -Ra episode where it's
a complete crossover just with Trala? I like
it. I think it's cool. I think it's interesting.
I think it's fun. I had a hell of a lot more
fun watching this than I did the previous episode.
Do Orko and Madame Raz actually have a character
in her? Yeah, at the very beginning they're training
magic. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's a scene with the
whole rebellion and Madame Raz and Orko and Orko
says thanks for trading magic with me or whatever.
Oh, okay So yeah, like I've been wondering for
the past 64 episodes I know that originally when
I listen to the commentary on some of the DVD
versions of The Secret of the Sword that that
Larry D 'Itilio said that They wanted to make
a female version of Orko but not really have
Orko there hence why that's Madame Raz and she's
essentially the absent -minded witch hazel kind
of character and I always wondered if they were
gonna team up and That's one of the reasons why
I love this one is because it's a very brief
team up between Madame Raz and oracle I think
that's very cool the other thing this episode
on a few of the episodes Previous have started
to do is it we've got a shift away in the series
from it being more of a Unique experience or
a extreme situation that causes these worlds
to interact or or people to move from one world
to the other and it seems like in recent times
it's it's shifted to something that's done very
frequently and Without much thought, you know
what I mean? Like they can just kind of go from
Etheria to Eternia and back and forth whenever
they want to these days. I'm not saying it's
good or bad, but it just definitely seems like
before, like when we started with She -Ra, it
was more of a, the sorcerers had to open a portal
or something. you know, dire straights had to
be going on to do this. And now it seems like
it's much more like Orca is just kind of going
to do some magic with Madame Raz and He -Man
and She -Ra are bouncing back and forth because,
you know, just based on the last few crossovers,
which is an interesting transition, I guess.
Well, I think the thing here is, they've also,
they stated this a couple of times recently in
the last, I'd say, 10 episodes of the series
here, between 55 and 65 of the cartoons, that
it's no longer the sorceress dealing with it,
it's Light Hope dealing with it. And sometimes
they don't even explain it at all. The thing
here with Montork, he opened the portal himself.
Right. He was trying to grab Orko. No, but I'm
saying about how Orko was there to begin with.
Oh, um... You know what I mean? Like, he's very
much... You don't actually see him travel from
Eternia to Etheria, yeah. So it just must be
that they're just able to do this free -willingly.
I guess. So, I mean, I think it's an interesting
thing, because you wouldn't think, you know,
if Shearer's gonna interact with somebody from
Eternia, you think it's gonna be He -Man or Adam.
Maybe the sorceress and maybe Skeletor and Hordak
are gonna interact, but you would never think
that it's gonna be Orko without those other people.
So I think that's a very interesting dynamic
they set up for this episode. The one thing,
and maybe I should say this for the end, but
the one thing I'll say for this entire first
season that I was outside of Secret of the Sword
that I was really disappointed with, not enough
cringer. I mean, I get it that, you know, he
can't always be there, but a lot of the crossovers...
Did I think I've seen Cringer once this entire
series with the crossovers? Yeah All right. Well,
let's take a quick break We'll come back make
our second and only other trip to the Whispering
Woods and Fryzone and see if we can manage to
stay in the Whispering Woods a little bit longer
than last Let's hope Thank you. Thank you. It's
nice to meet you. But could you tell me what
I'm doing here? Yeah, what are we doing here?
Oh, there's big trouble, Orko. The Crimson Council
has disappeared. Hoppin' hoobies. That's trouble.
We need your magic badly, but I can send you
back, She -Ra. No reason for you to get involved.
Orko is my friend. I'll stay. Aw, thanks, She
-Ra. Alright, so we find ourselves back in the
Whispering Woods, hopefully for a little bit
longer than we were with the last episode's visit.
And Mike, what did you like about the greatest
magic? Everything about this episode was just
fun. The whole thing with Trala, Montork, pulling
them through. I thought that was very fun. Starting
off with Orko at the Rebel camp and doing training
with Madame Raz, that was fun. you know, something
we've very rarely gotten He -Man. Like, I can
remember maybe one or two times we ever really
went to Trala and it wasn't as fun as this. I
don't know if it's because of the series change,
because from He -Man to She -Ra, like, it wasn't
as dire, but, you know, we get Driel, we get
Orko, we get Montork, we get, we even get Tralan
villains. Like, I never expected an either show
to ever see Tralan villains. I mean, I really
don't, we've been doing this podcast so long,
folks. I really don't remember the villains from
the original He -Man trolling episode, so if
anyone wants to comment on the post and let me
know. But yeah, we get two kind of cool trolling
villains here, I love that. And honestly, because
of Outside of Madame Raz, Broom and Bow, the
shitstorm that was the previous episode, I just
started having fun with this. I love everything
about this episode, so I just didn't even take
any more notes other than those two. I mean,
it's just so fun. refreshing, interesting. You
know, you got the Crimson Council, you got the
guard who was trapped in the jail, and you got
these two trawling villains who put the whole
Masters of the Universe thing, you know, magic
versus technology to, you know, we get back to
that. We haven't had that a lot. You know, I
mean, technically we've had it throughout Shiro
with with Whispering Woods and all the rebels
being mad, not all the rebels being magical,
but you know what I mean? And then Hordak having
the technology. But it's been a while since that
kind of plot was front and center. The only thing
I'll say about these final two episodes, and
maybe I should say this for you, but I just can't.
My brain's all over the place. So. Only thing
I didn't really like of outside of all the shit.
We didn't like about the last episode There's
no horde in either one of these which is I mean,
it's fine, but I don't know I just seemed kind
of off. Yeah What do you like about this? Well,
first of all, I mean random madam Raz and orco
trading magic just to start the episode You're
just like what I'm intrigued immediately. Like
that's the first scene and you're just like what's
going on here? Orco knows everybody's secrets
Not just he man, you know, she wrote a secret
as well Because she transforms directly in front
of him. So... Yeah, okay, yeah. And the other
thing I want to point out, when I mentioned about
noticing Lukey in the last one, she runs right
by him and transforms. So essentially he's hiding
right there and even he knows the secret. So,
the whole thing with only three people, Madame
Raz, Broom, or Madame Raz, who the hell is the
other one? Kyle Allen. Madam Raz, Cowl, and Light
Hope are the only three I know. Orko knows, Luke
he knows. Orko might be one of the only ones
that knows both He -Man and She -Ra's secret
identities. Okay, in 22 minutes or whatever this
tagged in on, granted we already know Driel and
we already know Uncle Montork and Orko, but in
22 minutes, Datilio is able to give us six characters
that are well -developed and Interesting. Like,
Foozabella and Blim are great together. Like,
the two, the Muck Muck and the Muck S. Like,
their interaction is fantastic. It's like something
out of an old TV show that just doesn't done
anymore. And then you - You know what it reminded
me of? It reminded me of if Mad Madame Mim and
Merlin were actually married and not villains
of each other. Like, it really reminded me of
the Sword and the Stone from Disney. Absolutely.
But the warden guy was cool in his couple seconds.
The council guy was cool in his last little couple
seconds. The villains, Dr. Zoog and Big Ugo,
like, they were fantastic. Like, every character
in here seemed like, hey, I would like to know
more about, can we have an orco series? Can we
just have a trala series? Like, I would have
been down for that back in the day, because there's
some cool characters here. And even some just
fun moments for kids and stuff like that. The
nose pulling on the face entrance by that machine.
I mean, come on, you're expecting, you know,
if there's an entrance, you're expecting it to
be like a structure and, you know, you have to
hit it with a ram or something to get in. But
no, this thing's just like pulling on its nose,
making it red. What a great line that Detilio
puts in there from She -Ra. This thing has more
arms than multibot. Yeah, perfect reference to
something else that we would know and she would
know from the series. Yeah flotsam prison So
close to Folsom prison. Oh Yeah, that it was
awesome the way they said that there was a cool
effect on the water Going up to that to show
the magical spell or whatever with like the the
wasn't just like a glimmery shiny water It was
like almost like a incandescent color effect
to it Sparkling that I just like the villain
here. We finally get a decent use of Shira's
power where she's not breaking the laws of physics.
She's just pushing something real hard. Like
I get that maybe she shouldn't be able to move
this whole thing, but she is supposed to be strong.
But at least it's something you can buy. Like
she's literally just pushing something. She should
have pushed a little bit more though, because
I think if it was completely off the radar, he
would have never known it was still there. He
would have just assumed that it was gone. I thought
that's the angle they were going to go where
he's like, there's an explosion, there's smoke,
and then it's just gone. But they didn't quite
do that because you could still see it in the
radar. And he's like, wait a second. I actually
you wouldn't think I would do this, but I actually
like the idea that They have the ability to work
magic through loved ones I thought that was a
cool touch. It wasn't some cheesy, I'm gonna
have a one -tear drop, or love is gonna fix the
day. I can channel because I'm connected to this
person in a magical way to begin with through
love. I can connect with them and work my magic
through them. It's not just everything was saved
because of love. So I enjoyed that. I only have
one Fryzone moment. Yeah, I only have one Fryzone
moment, too. What is your Fryzone moment? Okay.
Let's see here. Didn't like Driel's jealousy
at the beginning, but luckily, luckily they didn't
make it a huge issue. I didn't like it either,
but it is so typical of women. No. Well, throughout
the episode, both Orko and She -Ra say, my friend,
my pal. But that is what, that is how a woman's
brain works. No, yeah, I know it is disturbing
but it is true I'm glad that the tillio dropped
it immediately as soon as as soon as Driel says
the line, okay I'm not leaving you alone, especially
with her It was almost like the tillio was like
channeling something he experienced like his
wife or somebody at one point was probably like
Said something something about Let's hope that
never happened to you, but I'm just saying like
I could just see that like you had one experience
with a significant other that once was like Who's
this like give me a break? My only fright zone
moment is Dr. Zoo gets terrible with a joystick
He's like, let me get the aim back and then he
goes buy it and has to come back and misses it
again Like he apparently has never played a video
game And all I think of is Luke dodging Vader.
The Force is strong this one. And I should have
a Fright Zone moment as well for the PSA. I didn't
watch it. The PSA was literally about pets and
that they require a lot of care. okay now this
would have okay so the vegetable one does the
eating healthy one doesn't really fit either
one of these episodes but the pets one would
have fit the last episode we got two PSA's in
a row about eating vegetables and taking care
of your pets yeah shoot me now but overall not
too much negative to say about this episode so
let's take a quick break we'll come back and
have our final award ceremony for season one.
Help! Help! Oh, no! Oh, my grimps and grappies.
What is it? It's a machine, I think, and I don't
like it. But let's see how it deals with a little
muscle Don't mention it This thing doesn't know
when to quit All right, it's a last chance for
season one to get a few more pieces of trophy
and awards out of your trophy case. Mike, what
do you got? Any Horde bats or protection swords
here? Swords for everybody. Sword for Larry,
sword for Shira, sword for Orko, sword for Drea,
swords for everybody. Absolutely loved everything
about this episode. It was a million times better
than episode 64. It was fun. It was interesting.
It was enlightening to see Troll and villains.
I thought that was cool. So yeah, protection
swords for everybody. I am, as always, more specific
than you. I will give a protection sword out
to Mr. Larry Detilio, orco, and then I'll be
a hypocrite because I'm not going to be specific.
I'll give a protection sword out for all of Troll.
The whole of Trala gets a protection sword. Right
down its equator, splitting the planet in half.
No horde bets for me. Episode was too fun, too
positive. Mr. TFG, your last rating of Season
1 is? 5. And I will echo that. 5 out of 5. So
we end on a positive note, even if it didn't
give you the cliffhanger you were hoping for,
at least it was a good freaking episode and not
like 64. Right? Yeah, let's never speak of season
one episode 64 ever again. All right, we're gonna
take one final break when we come back We'll
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up Season one, we got to put a bow tie on it.
We got to send it off to sea, let it sail, and
get ready for what is season two. So what are
your final thoughts on season one? He said we
got to put a bow tie on it. No. You leave bow
in his ties alone. There was no pun intended.
Yeah, pun was very much intended on this end.
I don't know. Speechless. I I like season one
Okay, but there are only out Secretos sort of
separate it just fucking is it's it's the way
they presented that was a movie the way I Originally
saw it was a movie. I know it's five separate
episodes that they you know narrated and whatever
else But to me that's that's the movie and that's
separate you know That I will always watch when
I want to watch he man and she were together
Hold on, I want to watch He -Man and She -Reduce
Star Wars. The rest of the season, there are
probably out of the 60 episodes that are left,
taking into account those five not counting in
this, out of the 60 remaining episodes, there
are probably 15 or 20 that I'll never watch again.
just because I don't care about them, just because
that the villains or lack of villains just aren't
in my wheelhouse, I can safely say I will never
watch Wild Child ever again. That is, I know
we've given zeros to two episodes before that
episode. The only reason why I will ever watch
Wild Child ever again And really I won't have
to because I will have already grabbed the audio
is to hear Madame Raz and broom argue with each
other That's the only good thing about that episode
Overall season one was good at least towards
the end. They stopped somewhat Emasculating the
men yeah You know and I don't really think that
the women in he -man were treated too terribly
because I thought that was the whole thing, you
know, why they wanted to create a female superhero
for girls and everything else. And that's fine.
I have no problem with that. But like, I thought
that was the whole point of them basically creating
an all -girls show pretty much. And then, you
know, the men end up, you know, as Hans and Franz
would say, girly men, you know, because essentially
that's what some of them turned into. The disappointment
for me on the season is The final two episodes,
while I love The Greatest Magic, or yeah, yeah
that's what it's called, while I love the Trollen
episode, the final two episodes had nothing to
do with the Horde, at all. That's your main villain!
Like, I get, like, if - He's still trying to
get the flowers out of himself. that should have
been the season finale switch the greatest magic
with flowers for hordak that would have been
the best season ending ever what about you um
i guess here's my take so far and it's going
to be i guess maybe a sneak peek to some of my
thoughts on the overall series uh it's been up
and down like with he -man it was more Excitement
excitement. I like I like like and then like
all the season is getting old Let's make it end
please and then it would do it again like the
next season or whatever But this has been up
and down and up and down and it's like here's
four great episodes. Here's two shitty episodes
Here's three great episodes. Here's one shitty
episode like it just keeps going back and forth
but my biggest takeaway right now is I Am struggling
to find characters that I like in this outside
of some of the side characters like we have with
you know broom and Madame Raz and Right, you
know Kyle whoever it was whichever one you gravitate
towards like right like in the He -man series
by now. I have like I like Stratos. I like zodiac
I liked you know, there's multiple people that
I was like, oh if this is an episode containing
this character I'm gonna be excited with this
series I'm not excited because it's gonna have
Glimmer. I'm not excited because it's going to
have Mermista in it anymore or because it's going
to have Queen Angela or even the villains, Catra,
Scorpia. Who am I supposed to be excited about?
Yeah. So I mean, it leaves it where it's like,
well, I hope it's a crossover because that seems
to be the good episode. Yeah. So I'm a little
disappointed. I thought I have fond memories
of Mermista, of Frosta and Probably one or two
other ones that we haven't seen yet and so far
i've been disappointed with their uh appearances
in their per you know frost I think it's more
so just because she hasn't been in it Outside
of like little cameos and mermista i'm just so
thrown off by the the weird voices and stuff
that's coming out of her And why can't there
be a fucking mermista and merman episode? Like
just give me a water -centric episode with those
two involved, but here's my thoughts looking
forward Usually, I have not, like we've said
many times, we have not seen She -Ra, I have
not seen any episodes of She -Ra basically since
I was a kid. So I watched them growing up, and
now this is my, you know, 20 years later self
or whatever watching this. Yeah, however old
I am. And basically, I don't know what's coming
up. I don't know what season two and season three
are gonna hold. I know they're each short seasons,
like, 14 episodes each. Well, there's only season
two. There is no season two. Well, I mean, technically
some break it down into two seasons, but... Well,
they're wrong. You know, there's only 28 episodes
left, regardless. Yeah. Now, so I don't know
a lot about what's going to come up, but normally,
typically what would happen in the 80s is you
will, in the second season... or whatever comes
after the first season, however many seasons
it is, you would have the introduction of new
toys. So you would have to have episodes that
were featuring these new characters, new toys,
et cetera, to try to sell them. So I'm assuming
we're still gonna have four, five, six new characters
that we're gonna see, because I know, like I
said before, that there's toys that we haven't
seen yet. So I'm assuming that there are season
two characters. So at least maybe I will like
some of them and then look forward to those episodes.
I don't care if they're bad, good, or whatever,
just give me some characters that I can... look
forward to episodes that they are in. Because
right now, I'm more interested in, like, hey,
like, that episode with General Sunder was cool,
and that episode with that other bad Horde character
was cool. Like, I'm more excited about these
side one -off, like, minor characters than I
am about it, you know, outside of Modulok, I
guess, has some cool episodes. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know either So I'm kind of like
bummed at some of the episodes or some of the
characters that I thought I was gonna like and
I'm really searching for Favorite characters
that I haven't found yet and 65 episodes should
be long enough to find them Yeah, I remember
over the last four Four years that we've been
doing this whole thing That I remember when we
were when we were prepping for the Shira part
of the show that I said to you that I had seen
several season one episodes on Q boo or whatever
it was I saw him on TV and They were only ever
season one episodes like so I Mean I haven't
like you in 30 years, and I don't even remember
outside of secret of the sword as a kid I do
not remember seeing any of these episodes as
a kid. I know that for a fact but when we were
doing He -Man and stuff, they would show some
of the stuff on this kid's channel here locally
that I would catch every now and then. But most
of it was reruns of the Seahawk Returns or whatever
else. So season two for me is completely fresh
and completely new. I do not remember any of
that shit at all. For those of you that are looking
forward to more of our... chapters of, you know,
powers of Grayskull, et cetera. We're going to
wrap this up in a little bit different way because
we have basically 11 episodes left to go through
She -Ra. And the first half are going to be just
like we have been doing with three episodes a
piece. And then those final five episodes are
just going to be two first, like we did today.
So we're going to have six episodes with three.
And then we're going to have five episodes that
just cover two a piece. Can we just record those
six episodes in one whole week and be done with
it? No, I want some more Shira in my life. I
want some more Shira in my life. And that'll
take us through episode 93 of Shira, Princess
of Power, and the end of this journey. And then
we're going to have some recaps, et cetera. But
that's kind of what's to look forward to. So
you have 11 more episodes proper. of She -Ra
episodes and then some special stuff. And then
next year we get to new adventures. I've never
seen that, so that'll be a fun adventure. Okay,
so, since we're talking about this, before I
close the show, as a kid, and I think I've mentioned
this in the last four years on this show, I thought
Eternia was back. I thought the classic filmation
was back in 1990. And as a 10 -year -old in 1990
who had just started watching The Simpsons, because
my mom let me watch anything I wanted, pretty
much, you know, radar movies notwithstanding,
you know, whatever, I was excited to see the
new adventures of He -Man. And then I saw it
and I'm like... Where's Castle Grayskull? Where's
Skeletor? Where's the real Skeletor? Where's
where's this? Where's that? So yeah, I mean I
had seen several episodes of new adventures,
but I Do not remember that Show for anything
And as I've said before, like before we started
this run here at the end of the year of 2015,
when I did the, when we did the content update
03 that essentially what's going to happen next
year is we're going to have two cycles. We're
going to have one cycle where we, we, where we
released the new adventures episodes. And then
the end of the year, uh, somewhere around, I
think September or October or however many 15
episode or 10 episodes, I don't even know how
many it is. You know, by December 31st next year,
this whole show will be done. So December 2017,
Powers of Grayskull will be completed. You're
welcome, Tim Silvers. He mentioned to me on Twitter
a while ago, I don't know how you guys are gonna
get through all this. And I'm like, wait, you
listening to it or us producing it? He's like,
you producing it. I'm like, don't worry, there's
a plan. Yeah, I mean, the new adventures is only
25 episodes and the reboot is only 15. 15, yeah.
So it'll be fairly easy. We've tackled the big
ones already. Thank God. All right. Thank you
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