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About this Episode

OptimusSolo and TFG1Mike tackle three Etheria episodes: Horde Prime's birthday gift crisis in "For Want of a Horse," a girl's obsessive hero worship in "Just Like Me," and Skeletor's assassination plot in "My Friend, My Enemy." The hosts debate writing quality, character logic, and whether Skeletor's appearance alone can save a problematic episode.

Did you see a child run past Spirit? Yes, everyone

is in such a rush these days. Hello, this is

Optimus solo and welcome to the 63rd chapter

in our powers of grayskull series with me for

this journey into the Masters of the universe

franchise as You is TFG one Mike. Hello, sir.

I'm so tired Apparently Mike's tired, but whether

you're tired or not. Are you ready for more myths

of the theory, sir? I'm so tired. I I don't even

know what the hell is going on. Of course the

people will hear this this episode like Six months

after we recorded it, but at this point in my

life. I am a super edit monkey I've been editing

so many but shut up So podcasts so little time

I will never ever do a daily podcast ever again.

I could have told you that. But in this tired

episode for Mike of Mists of Etherea, we'll be

giving you our thoughts on episode 49, For Want

of a Horse, episode 50, Just Like Me, and episode

51, My Friend, My Enemy, which I like to use

that term to describe you most of the time. So

we hope you're ready because it's time to go

back to Etherea. Actually, we're gonna go to

Philadelphia first and see Shawn as a chick like

me. Well, I am shocked and dismayed. Well, now

you can't be both. You be shocked, I'll be dismayed.

Coming in 2016, Steve Megachon and myself, TF2

and Mike bring you a brand new TV review show.

Welcome to Podcaster Meets World. That's right.

we're launching a boy and girl meets world review

podcast here on the gcrn it'll take us 70 episodes

of the podcast to review all 158 episodes of

boy meets world after that we will tackle girl

meets world you can find podcaster meets world

on geekcastradio .com and itunes starting late

summer early fall 2016 so come on and walk through

the world with us where I received an important

message from Horde Prime. Horde Prime, leader

of the mighty Horde Empire, ruler of a thousand

worlds, the most feared being in three galaxies.

What did he want? To remind me that his birthday

is coming up and that he expects a present, a

good one. The question is, what kind of gift?

I have an idea, Hordak. Be right back. The end

of the world must be upon us. Grizzlor has had

an idea. I'll never understand how a brain so

small managed to grow so much fur. So, what are

you going to do about Horde Prime? I don't know!

That's why I'm upset! But what do you get for

someone who rules our whole galaxy? Someone who

has two of everything. Two armies. Two space

fleets. Two heads. I was trying not to think

about that. I've got it. The perfect gift for

Horde Prime. Alright, Grizzlor. Go ahead. Thrill

me. A pair of ties. One for each head. Do you

have... First up today is episode 49 for What?

of a Horse, aired date Wednesday, November 13th,

1985, written by the one and only Bob Forward.

It's Horde Prime's birthday, and Hordak has to

give him a special gift. He opts... for She -Ribbesteed.

So we have Hordak, Shadow Weaver, Mantena, Grizzler,

and Horde Prime. We have She -Ra, Bo, and Swiftwind.

So, Mr. Mike, what do you think about the whole

idea that we're gonna have an episode revolving

around Horde Prime's birthday? Well, that's a

horse of a different color. No, Swiftwind's still

the same color. At first I was like, okay, this

is fine, it's dealing with Swift Wind, and it's

got some really great comedy beats in it with

Hordak and Horde Prime and whatever else. What

I find odd is, because we never actually really,

outside of his giant Dr. Claw metal hand, we

never really see Horde Prime in his... primeness

we see shadows we see eyes we we don't ever really

see his face they end up making a joke in the

story about oh he has two heads and we should

get him two ties and two this and two i'm like

is horde prime really too bad Yeah, something

like that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. The whole

idea that we're going to have an episode based

around somebody's birthday is weird to begin

with and that it's Horde Prime's birthday is

just doubly weird because, come on, there's no

evil villains that are going to be celebrating

birthdays. So I'm not necessarily on board with

the whole idea that we're going to have a plot

revolving around a birthday. So unless this episode

blew me away, it was not going to be off to a

good start today. Let's take a quick break and

see if we can find some good things to say about

horde primes birthday With our first trip to

whispering woods You almost forgot that part

didn't you I was not sure where I was going there

Some job for a hero like me babysitting babysitting

Sorry swift wind I didn't mean it I just like

some action And it looks like I may get it. That

girl needs help. Wait here, Swiftwin. But, oh,

very well. Help! Help me! Somebody help me! Well,

I'm going to catch you. Am I doing this right?

Quiet, fool! Alright, our first trip to Whispering

Woods to talk about the good things about...

for want of a horse, which I think is just the

wrong name for this episode. It should just be

Horde Prime's birthday or something. What good

things did you see out of this episode that you'd

like to highlight? First of all, if you take

the word for out of the title, it basically spells

woe or woe. W -O -A -H. Where's Joey Lawrence

when we really need him, right? Ladies and gentlemen,

it's Hordak's Comedy Hour starring the incompetence

of Mantana and Grizzlore Sheera so she during

the episode one of the Horde troopers or maybe

Shadow Weaver or somebody basically puts a hole

in the dam and Sheera ends up using a Lincoln

log to repair the Hell, I swear as soon as she

grabbed that log, that was the first thing I

thought it was Lincoln Logs. Shadow Weaver is

kicking some ass in her disguise and outside

of her disguise as well. She's almost better

in that disguise than Evelyn ever was in a little

girl disguise. Yeah. Okay, so I'm gonna bring

this up later in the episode, but I gotta bring

it up here now because Swift Wind... I know you

hate this effect. You always have you always

will but he executes the single tier very well

here and it's poorly executed later in the podcast

that will will get to that but I thought that

was That was a interesting. Yeah little thing

for the first Swifty to do that Uh, so I do feel

sorry for Mantana. I'm like, oh poor Mantana.

Then it's like, hey, he gets his comeuppance

at the end. Yeah. Because Hordak ends up in the

drink. What about you? What'd you like about

this one? Um, the end of the world. Grizzler

has an idea. Yeah, I mean echo that I mean that's

just that was a good moment that Hordak had when

he was reacting to Grintzler's idea It was not

Mantenna's day though overall like you were talking

about like it just no I mean he got his laugh

at the end, but He fell down one too many holes

and Horde Prime can't fly At this point, we're

not even to season two yet. We're not even done

with season one. This is what? Episode 49 out

of 93 of the whole series. I'm already sick of

Ford Prime. We've only seen him several times,

but it's a useless gimmick. If hordak is in charge

of aetheria if he's actually taken over the planet

He has the power of I don't necessarily want

to say attorney But he has he's basically the

overlord of aetheria in most places and the rebellion

is trying you know I'm just so sick of you know

hordak being The Darth Vader to horde prime with

this episode even made it seem like it wasn't

just like that either it made it seem like He

is just one of many captain or commanders out

there. So it's like it's Horde Prime and then

you get this feeling from this episode that there

might be like 10 or 12 different, you know, captains

or commanders that are under him. So then basically

Hordak is just another Stormtrooper. It's almost

like I would equate him to like Grand Moff Tarkin.

Like he's just another general of this group.

I know you said grandma, but I heard grandma

She was probably headed more balls than grandma

Tarkin But yeah, I mean there's just not a lot

to good that I can say about this episode I mean

getting into some fright zone moments. I already

talked about horde primes birthday, please give

me a break, but here's the crux though here's

the bad part and I can't believe this came from

Bob forward because I know. Because here, it's

like he didn't even think this out. So it's Hordak

Prime's birthday. Hordak is searching for the

perfect gift. And he's thinking, you know, what

do I give the guy that has everything that rules

the universe and the world, et cetera? He has,

you know, it's that whole thing. You know, he

has two of everything. So what do you give him?

So he comes up with this unique idea that I'm

going to give him Swiftwent. You want to give

Horde Prime something which you later admit is

a gift that you know he is going to hate and

never use. because they specifically talk about

the fact that Horde Prime can't fly. He hates

anything that can fly. And when he's talking

to Swift Wind, he's telling Swift Wind that you

are gonna rot away in a cavern or a cave or a

cell because he's never gonna use you, you're

never gonna be able to fly again, and he's just

gonna let you wilt into nothing. So why would

that make that a good gift to give him? You know,

okay, why would you give somebody something that

you know, they're never gonna use and they're

gonna hate and let die Mm -hmm. Like that wouldn't

to me that wouldn't seem like hey, that's a great

idea. Let's give mine You know my number one

my master my lord and commander or whatever something

that he's gonna despise Like that made no sense

like I don't know if it was the if it was Bob

Ford's idea to have that speech where he's belittling

Swift went and telling him how awful his life's

gonna be Because that defeats the purpose of

choosing him as a gift Yeah, so I didn't get

that I was very confused at that whole aspect

of this episode. What about you? What are things

you didn't like about this one? You know Yeah,

I mean this whole episode Like, Bob Forward is

better than this. We've seen him write better

stuff than this. And, you know, I would love

to be able to sit down and chat with Bob Forward

about his writing and about everything else,

but I know that he's not very open to interviews,

whatever, you know, but it's just one of those

things where it just... It's almost like when

you bring in Random writer doesn't matter who

it is could be someone else and we don't to write

the same plot Every single episode of mask. I

mean seriously just it seems like this is like

hey, we need What was do you remember off top

your head? What was the episode before this one?

No 48 Yeah funny guy But whatever the last episode

was before this It seems like with this episode.

They're like, oh, hey, well, maybe there was

some dark Stuff in that episode. So we need to

lighten it up. So let's bring in Bob forward

and have him write a comedy When Bob is usually

good at writing tragedy. Yeah, I don't it just

Seems so out of place with this series. I don't

know it just is Not a good episode to start today

with that's for sure Anything else that you wanted

to bring up before we move on the PSA was about

the bond between animals and people It's it's

accurate Bo but I'm the hero would you like some

wine with that wine? bow smack him upside the

head with his own bow and arrow yeah all right

well we're gonna take a quick break and we'll

be back with our first set of awards and rankings

for today it looks like i have a prisoner as

well that's what you think shadow weaver let

him go suppose you'll make me wing head Sword

to net! You won't have me, She -Ra. But now,

I have something of yours. Something of mine?

Swift Wind! Vo, where is Swift Wind? Why, why,

I left Swiftie just over there. Come on. So last

week in episode 62 we ended on birds of a feather

There is nothing dark in birds of a feather whatsoever

So how they felt they needed a comedic episode

after that is beyond me Yeah, now we can get

to the award Horde bats to everybody. Every single

person. Bob forward, Lew Shimer, may the man

rest in peace, Eric is shot. Everybody gets horde

bats. All of them. Alright. That's pretty strong.

I'm just gonna give one to Hordak because that

is the worst gift idea I've ever heard of. Okay,

I take that back. Everybody except one character

gets a horde bat. And Mantana gets a protection

sword. Everybody else? Hordebats. All right,

what about... Wait, what did you say for protection

swords? Mantana. Oh, okay, gotcha, that makes

sense. I did not think of that, so I don't have

any protection swords to give out myself, but

that makes sense. What about an episode rating

for Out of Five Crystal Passals? Half. 0 .5,

and it only gets that because of Mantana. Ouch.

That is rough. I will give it a 1. one Crystal

Castle out of five. I don't know why, but uh...

Mantana, that's all right. Yeah, there were some

funny lines with Thordak and Mantana, etc. So

I mean I guess that'll give bump it up to a one

for me, but this is an awful episode. So let's

try to put this... Go ahead. Let's just add this

to the list of episodes of this show I will never

watch again. Yeah, so let's try to put this one

out of our head as fast as humanly possible and

let's take a quick break and move on to episode

50, Milestone. Not really. The 50th episode.

That's a big deal. Not for what they showed as

the 50th episode. Next up is episode 50, just

like me. Airdate of Thursday, November 14th,

1985, written by Gene Ayers, when Modulok and

his troops start to terrorize her village, a

little girl called Lena. seeks out her heroine,

She -Ra, in order to join her fight against the

Horde. We have Majolok and some Horde troopers,

we got She -Ra, Bo, and Swift Wind again, and

then some random villagers and humans, Lena,

Hemley, Polton, some old people, et cetera. So,

what do you think about this whole idea that

this girl needs She -Ra and only She -Ra to help

her in the Majolok -centered episode? Uh... I'm

trying to think here. I didn't think... I didn't

just throw her into the playpen of all the other

crappy MOTU kids. I'm sorry, like... She might

be the most infuriating one of all, because she's

just sitting there insulting everybody. Yeah.

And then Modulock. I don't know. You like the

character, right? I like him for what he is,

yeah. So far? I don't know. I just... I don't

know. He just doesn't seem like he's... Not in

with the rest of the Horde. Like anytime you

see - No, he's a little bit of an outsider. Yeah,

I mean, anytime you see a Horde team up, you

got Grizzlor, Mantana, Scorpia, Catra, Leech.

um hell even web store at times well no not really

that was back when yeah anyway but it's one of

those things where modulock just doesn't modulock

seems to be they're trying to create a classic

character without creating a character that's

just a one -off Like what was the one in him

the couple in he man one that was in the other

dimension that was working for scale You know

those kinds of characters he seems like that

but at the same time They're also trying to make

him a part of the horde and they didn't even

mention the fact that he's no longer the head

scientist Yeah, because apparently now he's the

head farmer Yeah, the head scientist demoted

to the head farmer and trying to do different

things. Yeah, I mean I Don't mind the idea of

centering on one villain and getting some more

about him if that was gonna be what was happening

But yeah, I mean just have to sprinkle it in

with another kid I mean it is a little bit of

a different angle with the whole Obsession with

Shira and that you know, she doesn't want anybody

else's help with Shira So I guess it's a little

bit different, but it's still an annoying kid.

So Mm -hmm. I mean you can't escape that I I

didn't I wasn't as annoyed by her as I have been

with some of the other ones But that's not to

say that she's not still annoying. So Let's take

another I think her Characterization is what's

more annoying than her mostly other kids They're

really really childish in their ways and half

of them. The voices suck, right? The voice on

her wasn't that bad but her personality is just

god -awful. Yeah, I agree with that. So, alright,

let's take a quick break and make our way back

to Whispering Woods and we'll find something

good to say about Episode 50, just like me. Maybe

we could find some help in here. There's no one

around. Said we would find something good in

whispering woods about episode 50 I'm gonna have

to leave it up to you though because I don't

know really if I have much I Have one thing I

have one so I was right that we're gonna find

one thing, but I it's up to you if we find more

than one thing You'll have to remind me cuz I

honestly don't remember is it Lou that does Swifties

voice I'm pretty sure yeah, okay Yeah, love Lou

Shimer as Swift win cuz Swifty did you see a

little girl run by here? Yes. Why is everyone

in such a rush these days? I Know right And I

already mentioned my other one at least modulock

isn't the head scientist anymore, yeah Only have

one I thought it was somewhat of an interesting

dynamic between a Dora and She -Ra in this episode

And kind of how they were playing that angle

and how they were feeling switching back and

forth Yeah, just transforming not transforming

and how they felt about the other side of the

other half of their personality I guess their

alter egos have seemed like they were almost

two completely different characters reacting

to each other. So I did appreciate that but Let's

get to fright zone because I have more than a

few things for that. First of all I only have

because I know you're gonna go ahead I have to

go and they're pretty pretty general here stealing

grain seriously and You control the plow or deck

you control the planet and you have modulock

stealing grain So he's getting as I've already

said he's gone from the head scientist to being

the head farmer and then obviously my other General

boring kid episode. Yeah, that's my first note

of another kid episode and Then I wrote down

there's nothing new or special about this episode

There's absolutely nothing that you get from

this episode that you can't Survive without like

this episode could not be a part of the series

and it would affect nothing There's also like

just bad editing in its center like I don't know

if they like cut something out of this episode

or what but at one point Bo and Lena the little

girl are talking about whatever they're gonna

try to get was get her parents free or something

and Then it immediately cuts to a scene in which

Bo has been captured. Yep Like, I don't know

if he intentionally was getting captured and

that was part of his plan, but they don't show

him intentionally get captured. They don't show

him - That wasn't part of his plan because what

happens later? She rips the damn door off! That's

what I'm saying, like, I don't know what the

plan was or what part of it, but they're like,

let's go get your mom or something like that.

And then, like, Bo's immediately captured and

the girl's not and they show no - they don't

show how that gets to that point. So it was very

jarring. I'm like, what the hell just happened?

Did I miss something? I even rewound it to watch

it again to make sure something didn't skip on

my DVD. At one point they show Shira leaning

on nothing. Like she's leaning, but there's nothing

there for her to lean on. She's in a leaning

pose. And also, the number of times that people

would have a field day with this episode that

go crazy about, you know, not being respectful

to women. They say something about being a mere

woman. Yeah, they say it several times though

the whole plot line of the episode is basically

Being demeaning to women and talking down to

women and making fun of women how they're not

as strong as men and blah blah blah blah and

they try to counterpoint that by Giving this

chick Lena the biggest fangirl crush on She -Ra

ever. I can't imagine any girls in the 80s that

would have enjoyed this episode. Yeah, it was

just weird how many times they said that. And

then I think this episode may have set the record

for a number of times that we're going to transform

back and forth between Adora and She -Ra. How

many times are we going to transform in this

episode? It was an overkill. I think probably

out of the... Episodes usually run around 22

minutes in this series, something close to that.

There had to have been at least seven minutes

worth of transformations in this episode. Yeah,

it was out of control And I think what I understand

that they're doing a lot of back -and -forth

between a door and Shira, but you don't necessarily

need to Highlight the fact that we're transforming

that many times And the PSA was about love and

kindness are powerful Things to have as well.

It's not just brute strength, but love and kindness

are our powers go fall in a volcano, Luki So

that's a lame -ass PSA, I will say that. Yeah.

All right. Let's take a quick break and see if

we rate this one any higher or lower than episode

49. I have to find She -Ra, Princess of Power.

She -Ra again. Well, um, maybe I could help you.

What's your name, child? I'm Lena. But you can't

help. You're just a regular woman. Why you need

She -Ra, Lena? Cause she's strong, and brave,

and not afraid of a horde. Just like me. Alright,

it's time once again for horde bats and protection

swords. I don't have any protection swords so

I can get rid of those real quick some other

time, but my horde bat goes to Lena, the girl.

Because again. She's retarded. She's annoying.

She's obsessed with She -Ra in an unhealthy way.

And yes, I said retarded. I don't care. I don't

care. And honestly, I mean, I could see how you

could just give a hoard bet like you did last

episode to everyone, but I focused it on Lena.

So what do you got? I'm going to do it a different

way this time. What do you got? Well, is that

it? Just a hoard bet for Lena. That's all I give

out for this episode. All right. So. Now generally

when we say hordebats, we've been doing this

since what episode? 46 okay, so It's now oh god.

So 63 most 20 episodes. Yep, almost 20 episodes

up. Okay. So anyway We've been doing the shooter

shows since episode 46 of powers of grayskull

series, okay, so I'm with you. In the beginning,

I believe when you termed horde bats, you're

talking about the Bat Mech planes, right? Any

way you want to interpret it. All right, so we're

going to line up all the characters, line them

all up, all over Etheria. Every single one of

them, we're going to throw the writer in there,

whoever the hell the writer was in this episode.

We're even going to throw in Lou Shimer, Erica

Shimer, Jay Sh, everybody. Lu Shiver's wife gets

thrown in there Have Lena at the front of the

line Smack her with a horde baseball bat and

it's gonna be a fucking domino effect Through

the whole fucking planet cuz oh my god is this

this episode is just horrid You already said

it about her obsession with she I'm surprised

she wasn't stalking Shiro or that I'm surprised

they didn't try to to to angle it that way a

little bit because oh god yeah it's not good

it's not good protection sword for anybody sir

the the only person that gets a protection sword

and the only reason why this is not i was originally

thinking of doing something we've never done

before i was going to give this a negative one

a negative rating But I'm not doing that. The

only person that gets a protection sword, the

only character that gets a protection sword this

whole episode is Swiftwind for the, yes, why

is everyone in such a rush these days? So, Swifty

is the only one that gets a protection sword.

All right, and rating for this one? 0 .5 again.

It's only one line from Swift Wind. Where is

Madden Rez? As much as we may or may not enjoy

Cowl, where is Cowl? Episode 49 was supposed

to be a comedy episode. Cowl's great. Some sort

of comment. I just not good this we're gonna

sound like a broken record because I am gonna

give it one Crystal Castle out of five and the

only reason I give it one is for my only whispering

woods moment I did think there was some interesting

stuff done between a door and Shira So I like

the play on those two characters as if they were

separate characters, but without that this would

be a zero So yeah, it's that bad and we are not

in a good place so far to Point five is for you

and two ones for me. It's gotta get better, right?

Let's Let's take a look after the break when

we get to episode 51, My Friend and My Enemy.

This has to be a Pogs series record as far as

bad ratings go. We'll see what happens next,

if we can finish with a trifecta or if it goes

a notch up. What's from a secret admirer, Hordak?

What's an admirer? Someone who likes you. You

mean someone likes Hordak? capture those rebels

once and for all! Last up today is episode 51,

My Friend, Comma, My Enemy. Airdate Friday, November

15th, 1985. It's how we ended our week. With

writer Carol Baxter giving us this plot synopsis,

Skeletor poisons Hordak, and She -Ra wants to

help her greatest enemy. We have Hordak, Catra,

Skeletor, Imp, Mantena, and Grizzlor. more than

we've seen so far today. And for the members

of the Rebellion, we have She -Ra, Bo, Glimmer,

Madame Razz, Kyle, Swift Wind, and Light Hope.

So what do you think about the poisonous plot

of Skeletor and Hordak? If you take Just Like

Me out, completely take it out, get rid of it,

it would put the series at 92 episodes, and it

would put this as episode 50. Yes. because this

is a much better episode than either of the other

two because okay so just to give a little behind

the scenes things here I originally thought for

some odd reason that this was not the right episode

because the script that I have does not say that

it's the right episode I thought it was The moral

of that story is when one person, aka me, attempts

to do the number of scripts that I did that one

day, apparently I missed one section. Yeah, and

that's fine, but like I said, I got confused

and I messaged you on Facebook. I'm like, didn't

we already do this? Because I looked at the description

and this is before I started watching it. I wanted

to look at because I was wanting to kind of look

at the description to see what I was getting

into and I'm like wait a minute we already did

the one about the red eye and the cowl and the

feathers I remember talking about that and you're

like oh no just ignore it just watch the episode

I'm like okay so I'm sitting there I'm watching

I'm like Holy shit. Skeletor, what's he doing

there? Yeah, I surprised you. It was my intention.

That was a good surprise compared to the other

two episodes today. So you're a fan of Skeletor

trying to poison Hordak? Not necessarily. I'm

a fan of Skeletor showing up and having probably

the single greatest plan he's ever had in his

entire filmation history. I mean, he almost killed

Hordak. I'm not a fan of him attempting to murder

Hordak, but... It's better than any of the other

plans he's ever had. Yeah. When we... Tales of

Eternia. It definitely is interesting to see,

like, just this murder attempt, basically, on

Etherea. So, I mean, he's literally trying to

kill Hordex. So, it was unexpected, and I wasn't

sure how I was going to react to it when I started

seeing it, because it comes, you know, obviously

right at the beginning that we're going to have

this type of episode. So, the whole... idea that

Skeletor is even on Aetheria is just kind of

interesting and you're like what's going on and

I want to see more and then of course it's going

to give you the classic where the you know Optimus

Prime and Megatron have to be friends to help

a common foe or something like that so I wasn't

sure if it was going to be anything up my alley

or if it was just going to be a rehash of similar

things when the bad guy and good guys have to

work together which we've seen in this franchise

itself a couple of different times so far so

it comes down to execution on this one for me

like a lot of the episodes the the plot is intriguing

enough where if they executed it well, I would

probably like the episode, but if they don't,

it'll bring it down. So we're gonna have to kind

of wait and see how that works out. The way we're

gonna do that is take a quick break and get right

into our last trip to Whistering Woods in the

Freight Zone. Today was especially tasty. You've

done your job well, Katra. When will it start

to take effect? Soon. Very soon. It won't be

long before Hordak will disappear. And then Horde

Prime will have to choose the very best person

to take his place. Me! And of course, you'll

need the very best Force Captain at your side.

Thanks for sticking with us. It's our last trip

to the Whispering Woods and the Fright Zone,

so let's start in the Whispering Woods. I actually

have quite a few things in both areas. What do

you have, sir, that you would like to say good

about, my friend, my enemy? So, we need to take

a trip back in time, because back with the modulog

episode, I just thought of this as you mentioned

Whispering Woods. The trees protected the Whispering

Woods, and he ended up up a tree. That was funny

in the modulock episode, but for this one, like

I said a moment ago I was so not expecting Skeletor

to show up at all I'm like doomsbury pie who

the hell else on aetheria is gonna try to poison

Hordak But I thought it was great that Skeletor

showed up and as I already said he basically

has What is equal to his best plan ever? Like

there's no there's nothing here outside of him

associating with Catra and not Shadow Weaver

But Shadow Weaver probably in her characterization

unless the writer was gonna really fuck her up

Shadow Weaver would have never joined Skeletor,

but the interesting thing since I mentioned that

in the eternity war comic book from DC Comics

that my buddy Adas Baron and I are reviewing

over on the pull bag even though we're only on

only up to issues seven and eight of having to

record again soon later in that series there's

a whole plot storyline where Shadow Weaver and

Skeletor were a couple oh lord But this here,

I just absolutely loved it. I thought it was

great. So go down your list. All right. First

of all, the whole idea of Catra teaming with

Skeletor is interesting. So I like that element.

Obviously like that Skeletor showed up. There

is even a moment where Catra and Skeletor are

laughing together, like in harmony. In unison.

And that is an intriguing thing to hear. 90 some,

or however many ridiculous episodes we've watched

so far. It's something I never thought I would

hear. So the peculiar purple pie man. See if

anybody gets that reference, but that's basically

what happened here. And I was not expecting the

Havoc staff to be destroyed like that. I was

like, whoa, the Havoc staff, no way. Yeah, that

was crazy. So those were my, most of my good

moments were about Skeletor and Catra and from

a bad guy angle. But I do have some things that

I want to talk about as far as Fright Zone goes

that threw me off a little bit. First of all,

how did Skeletor get there? How did Skeletor

end up in Etherea? He just comes and goes as

he pleases? Has his staff opened up? Transdimensional

portal portals before I just don't remember him

in the other two other episodes He showed up

in so far in the sheer series of I don't remember

him just being able to do it at whim Okay, I

was a little thrown off by that. Also. It doesn't

make any sense for catcher This is a lateral

move in the business world in the hierarchy.

It doesn't make much sense because she literally

says I'll have a thing about the ladder. I mean

she literally is the first captain for Hordak

And in her speech for her discussion with Skeletor

and how Skeletor is gonna take over and be the

supreme leader, etc, etc She's like and I will

be the best choice for force captain Like you're

already yeah So your whole plot is so that you

can be in the exact same position with just a

different ruler Like that doesn't make a whole

lot of sense and for Hordak he this is a quote

from him. I'm passing out I Don't know most people

don't Have the ability to announce when that's

about to happen They should have had him say

I'm feeling faint or I feel weak or I'm dizzy

or I'm light -headed or something but for him

to actually say I'm passing out is like I Will

argue this with you just a little bit because

I have seen movies and TV shows where characters

whether it's a funny character or not will say

that Right, right. I'm not arguing the point

that it seems off for him to say that, but I'm

saying that it has happened before. I know everyone

under the sun. hates the Big Bang Theory, but

I can think of a few times that Sheldon has drank

before on the Big Bang Theory, and he has said,

I'm gonna just pass out now. Well, I get that,

where you're like, hey, you're tired or whatever,

you're gonna be like, I'm gonna pass out, but

for you to actually be passing out and say, I'm

passing out, that's just kinda weird. I understand

not killing people as a good person, you know,

He -Man's not gonna do it, She -Ra's not gonna

do it, et cetera, et cetera, but nobody's asking

you to kill Hordak. Why not just let him fade

into another dimension? What is that what part

of your That's a problem with the writing they

they specifically had Skeletor say whoever the

hell the writer is for this episode. They had

Skeletor say Hordak will disappear Into another

dimension. He will be gone forever essentially

meaning death. He doesn't necessarily say He

says that, but he also says at the same time

he's going to kill Hordak, but he doesn't say

that Hordak is going to die. He says that Hordak

is going to end up in another dimension. So the

writer did not write this down properly. Because

otherwise it should not be a mark against your

ethical or moral standards as the hero to let

somebody just disappear into another dimension.

What is the big deal? You're not killing anybody.

You're not actually taking any action. You're

just letting this happen and then you're evil.

Torture person is gone forever and I guess the

series ends but whatever like I hate that They

never are willing to just do something crazy

and let something like that happen sword to torch

Was interesting because it actually created fire

and sword to ladder. What did you want to say

about that? Sword to ladder That's just almost

as bad as if not worse than Sword to Blanket.

I still give up. And then Sword to Torch. Oh,

fuck this. I'm done. I'm so fucking done at this

point. I wasn't done at that point with this

episode. No, no, no, no. I'm saying the powers

of the protection sword. I'm done. I'm not. I'm

keeping track still. I wasn't done at that point

in the episode either, but when I was done, well

when the first time I thought I was done, is

then after this, where She -Ra is crying for

a wasted life. Give me a fucking break. Well

this is the, like, okay, so no one else is gonna

cry for Hordak, so if she cries for Hordak we're

just fine. I don't have a really problem with

her crying for him. and feeling sorry for him

in the current state that he's in because that

is kind of sad no it's not it's your archenemy

he's fading i know i know that i understand that

but why would it bring you to tears it goes back

to what you were saying about how he man and

she or don't want anybody to die and it goes

back to what I was saying earlier where I can't

believe Swift Wind pulled off the single tier

better than She -Ra pulled off multiple tiers

here. The multiple tiers here is just god -awful

animation. There's only one suitable action for

this if you're trying to like... be like sentimental

and that is as he's fading off to this other

dimension you turn to walk away and you just

pour out a little liquor and then you just that's

it that's it you pour out a little liquor and

let the motherfucker shift into another dimension

excuse my language but that is just crying for

a wasted life those lines that were written in

this part are the cheesiest sappiest stupidest

things i've ever heard shira utter in this entire

series and then If I wasn't done then, then we

shift back to Hordak coming back to and being

in this dimension and back on his, you know,

back in his home, et cetera. And now we're gonna

do something to where Hordak has amnesia and

Hordak doesn't fucking remember what Skeletor

did, or that She -Ra cried for him, and that

She -Ra saved his life. Why the fuck does he

have amnesia? He was with it the whole time.

He was kind of fading in and out, but it wasn't

like he had head trauma. It wasn't like he was

actually out cold. He should not have amnesia.

He should have remembered every aspect of what

just happened for the most part. So... Fuck the

amnesia story angle to this. So screw the fact

that you didn't let Hordak go into another dimension.

Screw the fact that you're literally shedding

tears for it. And then screw the fact that Hordak

has no memory of all this. This episode, in the

second half, pissed me off. I'm sorry. So, looking

at this episode on the IMDBs, at the writer,

Carol... Baxter, Carol Baker, whatever the hell

her name is, Baxter, okay. Carol Baxter, her

only writing credits in 31 years are the Incredible

Hulk TV series, one episode in 1981, and then...

We have The Anxious Apprentice from She -Ra,

My Friend, My Enemy, Something Old, Something

New, Something Borrowed, Something Blue, and

then Just the Way You Are. So she wrote four

episodes of She -Ra. This is the second of the

four. So apparently later in 1986 we're going

to get Something Old, Something New, and then

in 87 we're going to get Just the Way You Are.

So... If this is any indication, and I do not

remember us doing, I know we did it, but I don't

remember the anxious apprentice, so we're two

out of the four episodes into her writing. If

this is how she writes, this has got to be the

worst writing I've ever seen. It's not good.

It's not good. It ruined the entire episode,

honestly, for me. I can't handle this episode

and it's gonna be a three -for -three miss on

me for today. I know I think you liked it a little

bit more, but we'll have to get into that. The

only reason why I liked it more is because of

the sheer shock value for me for having bone

brain show up. Because I was not expecting Bonebrain

to show up at all. Yeah, I guess I can see a

part of that maybe. And the PSA was about being

friends to those who have no friends. You gotta

be that one person that will cry over some piece

of garbage. So, find that person in your life

that has no friends. And be friends with them.

Pretty much. Let's get to the awards for the

final time today. This is gonna be interesting

cuz I'm gonna break everyone's brain yet again

Oh I will this time Long gone I See a bright

light up ahead. I hope it's a wizard There is

something it's the wizard, but he's a prisoner

something tells me we've got company bad company

I've been expecting you Skeletor I should have

known you were behind all this What are you doing

here? Waiting for you, my friend. Now I have

the pleasure of watching Hordak disappear in

person. You can't mean that. You and Hordak were

once friends. Friends! He will be glad to do

the same thing to me. I just beat him to it.

As for you, She -Ra, don't come any closer. I

can see there's no reasoning with you. I constantly

find ways to give various things various awards

and I think this is going to be a first it's

probably not gonna break anyone's brain but it

when I thought of this I'm like oh god that's

just so good Because of the horrible, horrible

changes, I'm giving a horde bat to the Sword

of Protection. Protection Sword Awards, I gotta

give one each to Skeletor and Hordak. Just like

I said, I was not expecting Skeletor to show

up as the villain in this episode because the

other thing is Okay, so Skeletor's here. Where

the fuck is he man? That's what I'd like as I

was waiting for I'm waiting for he man to show

up Not gonna happen in this episode. I Did not

have any protection swords to give out in this

episode But I do have one humongous horde bat

to give out and that one goes to She ra herself

for being a fucktard in this episode and crying

over horde act like a little bitch So yes, I

said all that. Yes, you did. How many crystal

castles out of five were you given this one?

Come back down to my level. Come back down to

my level. As bad as the writing is and as bad

as the overall plot is, the fact that Skeletor

just shows about nowhere and has his best plan

ever, even though he fails. Just for that reason

alone, I have to give it four and a half. What?

Four and a half? Yes. No, you can't give four

and a half just because Skeletor fucking shows

up. Yes, I can. Oh my god, that's the worst reading

I've ever heard in our entire existence of Powers

of Grayskull. I've heard you bump something up

a half point because of a line or because, you

know, a character or something like that. You

cannot give this four and a half bumps because

Skeletor showed up. Yeah, I can. Yeah, I am.

That is the worst rating ever. This is not one

of the best episodes of the entire series. It's

not even close. Are you fucking insane? Yes,

apparently. I will give it a half of a point

bump for Skeletor, which still only gets this

to one and a half out of five. And that's being

generous. It should be lower than that. One and

a half out of five. You cannot give this a four

and a half. I forbid it. I am and I did. I forbid

it. That means that this is going to be in your

top 10 episodes of the series. You think this

is a top 10 episode? Eh, it's Skeletor. What

are you going to do? She -Ra is literally crying

over Hordak. They're trying to teach children

something. Hordak gets amnesia from nothing.

You thought you were breaking my brain with the

damn protection sword thing. No, you're breaking

my brain by giving this a four and a half odd.

People that are listening, please comment on

how retarded this is. You cannot give this a

four and a half. This is the most terrible rating

I've ever heard. I'm beside myself. If this shows

up in your top 10 She -Ra episodes, I'm going

to... Do something crazy. I haven't decided what

it is yet, but I will do something crazy. This

is one of the worst episodes of this series.

One of the worst. It's the worst, probably the

worst crossover episode we've had. Probably the

worst Etheria Eternia crossover episode of the

entire series so far. Okay, we have to take a

break because I'm about to just go ballistic,

so we'll be right back with our final thoughts

for today's episodes. Well, ladies and gentlemen,

I have successfully achieved my goal for this

section of the powers of grayskull series I've

broken his brain folks I can't speak Yeah, let's

hope the episodes get better It's awful awful

episodes today. This is the only thing that I'm

gonna muster the strength up to talk about what

I get one one and one and a half. This may be

a record for the worst set of three episodes

we've ever done. Yeah, I can agree to that. It's

awful. So it's better get freaking better. I

have a few things I'm looking forward to as we

trickle our way down to the end of season one

of She -Ra. So hopefully those pan out and I'm

basing that just. Strictly on either characters

that are appearing or just some minor plot details.

I haven't seen the episode So maybe they're gonna

disappoint me But that's the only reason why

I'm still excited somewhat to do this is because

I have a glimpse of some things that may be coming

But this is an awful set of three episodes if

you if these were the first three episodes you

watched of this series You would never watch

another episode Yeah, probably not so it better

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