Secret of the Sword Commentary

See He -Man and She -Ra together in their greatest

adventure of all, The Secret of the Sword. For

better or - Hello, this is TF2 and Mike, and

welcome to the 46th chapter in the Powers of

Grayskull series. This will be kicking off our

She -Ra podcast, Myths of Etherea. With me for

this journey into the Masters of the Universe

franchise is none other than Optimus Solo himself.

Hello. Hello. That's weird, me not doing the

intro. Yeah, I know, right? Hey, I'm refreshed.

He -Man's over. He -Man's done. I'm good. He's

not done yet. You still get to see some more

of him. Filmation he man is done. No, you still

get to see some more of them today. Well, yeah

I'm saying filmation proper is done. Is that

the name of the series? Ladies and gentlemen,

you can't see this but I'm really gonna reach

through my computer So before we get this started

what this is going to be an episode 46 here is

going to be our commentary on the secret of the

sword When did you first see this good lord?

Let's see what year did it come out 85 probably

1985 if not Only four years old. Yeah, my brother

was into this stuff. My sister was into this

stuff If not, I saw it within Don't know I saw

it before I was 10. I know that much and then

I also watched it again probably Seven or eight

years ago Sometime in the early 2000s. I know

I watched it probably when we were first getting

into tune cast way back then Yeah, I know I watched

it out some point probably to do something with

behind the voice actors capture images do something

or just out of Pure nostalgic reasons, but I've

avoided it in the last three to four years while

we've been doing the He -Man podcast because

I wanted to have somewhat of a fresh take when

we did it. So I've done no research, no re -watching.

This is a fresh... The point here for me and

the benefit of doing this for listeners would

be, you know, for those listeners who haven't

seen this recently and are looking to pick it

up again, that way their experience will be hopefully

much like my experience here. And, you know,

I wanted to do a bunch of research, but I'm saving

that for next episode. Right right for me Yeah,

that was a tune cast you mentioned that was episode

10 that was to This day, I believe it's the second

long well third longest episode of any Geek Caster

Network podcast coming in at four hours and 27

minutes Well, that's because I included all the

audio for the bonus features of the DVDs at the

time you and your cut But for me This was the

movie, this was the thing. 1985, 86 maybe, five

or six years old. I did not see this in theaters,

but I remember, I still remember to this day,

Kingston, Massachusetts, adventure in video.

When I found out that they had had this, I was

like... Give me give me give me and I'm never

giving it back and then you did and and well

Yeah, I had to obviously cuz back then there

were you know late fees and blah -blah -blah

-blah We don't have any of that anymore these

days cuz video stores are so many late fees You

just buy them, but you bought them thing. Well,

yeah But for me like I don't remember what rentals

cost at that place I don't remember I mean I

know it generally a rental is like $4 .99 or

something like that or it used to be a blockbuster

or whatever I don't know but For me, I would

rent this after I found out about it. I would

probably rent it Once every two or three months

I Literally like my video store adventure video

Kingston, Massachusetts. They had one copy every

time it was in I grabbed it and I kid you not

I wore that VHS tape out I Just I friggin love

this movie I know this movie like the back of

my hand. I don't even have to have had to watch

it. Somebody just mentioned a scene to me. And

I know the movie. The last time I watched it

all the way through was probably when BCI was

doing their DVD releases at the time. So again,

you know... Seven eight years ago something like

that. I forget how long it's been since the BCI

DVDs came out It doesn't matter if I haven't

seen this in seven or eight years. I still know

it It just it's always stuck with me Because

this is you know, the galaxy far far away for

he -man. Oh, I thought we were talking about

Star Wars for a second Well tech, I mean you

look at it. I mean really kinda is, if you think

about it. Yeah, and I'm not saying I don't know

the movie, but it's still somewhat of a fresh

take in the respect that I haven't watched it

in the last five to ten years, eight to ten years,

something like that. So are you ready for the

powers of Grayskull, sir? I mean, I'm the one

that's always ready. Sometimes it takes you some

convincing, but I'm born ready for it. No, no,

I am ready. I am so ready. Like, you know, this

is fresh, this is new, this is, you know, something

that, you know... we're going into fresh and

new because honestly outside of secret of the

sword i remember nothing of the series i don't

even remember that this was originally and we'll

talk about this in episode 47 this was originally

the first five episodes and they recut it into

this film and that's what episode 47 is going

to be about is the differences and stuff like

that but like i only remember the film version

i do not remember the individual episodic versions

of this. I don't even know if I'm going to remember

a single She -Ra episode for the entire run.

I don't know. I'll be surprised if I watch a

single episode and be like, I remember that.

I'm hoping it happens, but I honestly, I remember

She -Ra. I remember buying my sister She -Ra

toys for Christmas or for her birthday or something.

And I remember being all about it. My cousin

had the He -Man toys and I was into the whole

universe type thing, but I honestly don't, off

the top of my head, I could not tell you what

a single episode is about. Yep, absolutely. So

it's going to be an interesting adventure and

it's going to be a lot more fresh even than He

-Man was. And I mean, even some of the He -Man

stuff we hadn't seen in a while, but still I

remember some of it because I probably saw those

episodes, you know, two, three times as a kid.

So it's going to be a different experience this

year. It's going to be a whole different adventure.

Yep, absolutely. So we hope you're ready because

it's time to enter Etheria. Something must be

happening, something big. We better get to Whispering

Woods fast. I getcha. By the power of Brayskull!

Three two one click I Feel like we should be

talking right now like all the I Missed the I

missed this filmation sound effect. It's not

there. It's the music for the opening theme song

here I don't remember this song at all I'm digging

it though It's not Stan Bush. Shut up. Oh, the

logos. I love these logos. I really dig these

logos, people. I like the gem in the... Oh, that's

cool. Mm -hmm. I'm downloading this song. It's

gonna be my new ringtone. I'm surprised you don't

already have it on BehindTheVoiceActors .com.

Nah, I don't have this theme. I'm gonna make

it my ringtone, I don't want it for some site.

Written by Larry DiTillio, like we didn't know

that, but... Written by Bob Ford. And Bob Ford,

so... Two people we highly praised in the last,

uh... Mm -hmm. ...episode. Plus the people that

worked on Beast Wars later on. Yeah, I'm not

concerned about that. Come on. I mean, okay,

that's like me saying, you know... I'm in He

-Man with the world right now. Oh, wait, hold

on, hold on. That's like me saying, oh, you know...

Ham Saban also did the theme for You know Ham

Saban and Shooky Levi also did the music for

He -Man and She -Ra and oh wait We got starting

the voices here John Erwin excellent Melinda

Britt finally a new voice new female voice Alan

Oppenheimer Linda Gary He did one or two appearances

in He -Man, but good to see George Erica Shimer,

so we've already got more female who Shimer did

in the whole last series. Oh god, Grayskull looks

so good here. I haven't seen it for a while.

It's never looked that good in the original He

-Man series, at least the outer part of it. It's

been quite a few episodes since we saw Grayskull.

Oh! And we've never seen the Sorceress in her

nightie. No. I don't want to go too far with

that. Hey look, it's Darth Vader! I always thought

Horde looked weird in that robot costume. Yeah,

it's Darth Vader with Princess Leia, people.

The young man at arms. With no mustache, that's

just wrong. Put some clothes on. Put some clothes

on. It's like she's in a strip joint. Fanboys

rejoice in. Yeah. epic sword one of them anyway

that's a new shot there the background is new

but yeah well i'm seeing the first look at the

the freight zone yes one of mike's favorite characters

granger That's a new shot castle bright moon.

Yeah the transition Look at Adam look at look

at how they're done up here That's a strong looking

Adam yeah Mean the shading in the shadows. Yeah,

but I'm saying it's a little too muscular that

was almost human like yeah This sword looks just

like mine Now remember when we If we were back

in this time Mm -hmm, and we were watching this

for the first time those shots of fright zone

and and etc would have no meaning to us We'd

have no clue what they're showing us with that

Okay, I have to call into question him putting

that sword in his back where his his sword Like

he had doesn't have two sheaths back there. I

know he doesn't True don't get me wrong folks.

I'm not trying to bitch about the movie. I'm

really not but I got to point it out All right,

so we already have the stage set for you know

that this is the universe important the fate

of the universe is on his shoulders I'm just

kidding. No, this is Etherea and it is a pretty

bright place. Cringer already trying to make

a couple funnies. Yep. Interesting Star Wars

-esque animal there. Mm -hmm. The Laughing Swan

Inn. The Ethereans. Man, if it had a stage it

would be Mos Eisley. or Java's Palace, I should

say. Peace man. Why is Gringer talking out of

the sides of his mouth instead of... Now we have

seen horde -esque like things during the series,

but nothing to this extent, of course. The classic

cartoon chicken leg. That I've never seen in

real life look quite like that. I've never seen

a fish eating like that before. I love that sound

effect. Wing wing wing. We see this later, but

it doesn't appear that the helmets come off of

the horde troopers right since their eyes glow

but we'll see that it does happen definitely

has a Star Wars feel not just from the Cantina

standpoint, but bow Looks almost like You know

like you'd see one of the Jedi is like hiding

out with the cloak over their head. Yeah Snakes

inside there. Mm -hmm. You're under arrest Can

you really be that manly with a heart I? Was

gonna say hey look, it's it's lots of heart bear

as a human Or whatever is I forget what the I

know what's this do? You should know you love

care better or something. Love it tender heart

there you go See? I knew you knew. It's amazing

that we never saw somebody with a bow. I don't

believe in the He -Man series, except for Bowina.

Yeah, I mean, we've seen Man in Arms and Tila

kind of play around with them in training, but

we never actually saw someone. Like as their

main weapon. Mm -hmm. I always liked the bat

symbol and the look of the horde. Yep. Which

we saw on Batros and a couple other people during

the he man just never knew what the heck that

represented until now Yeah That is a queer stance

Very much so And how is an owl's inside of his

ears pink yellow and blue I was like that though.

No, I like it. I think I don't think we heard

that exact voice ever No, we haven't The names

of places in in aetheria. I thought they were

all named better than Eternia really with the

whispering woods and different areas like yeah

Fright zone yeah, well the Fright Zone and snake

Mountain kind of give each other a run for each

other's money. Yeah a little bit It just seemed

like they were more generic places in Eternia

that you saw once you never heard from again

Think the only person the Horde symbol does not

work on is Katra Because her outfit is red and

the Horde symbol is red, right? Shadow weaves

are who shadow weaves a Horde trooper in disguise

I was like the little snort Mm -hmm. His face

almost looks robotic until he does that laugh

and his face just moves Really really weird.

Yeah, I'm glad they got georgia descends although

it adds another element to this whole another

layer to the voices and something else that really

attracted me to this series was the horde members

and the There's a lot more to them It seemed

like than what we got with some of the evil warriors.

Mm -hmm. Maybe it's just cuz you're so used to

evil warriors, but They're just they're interesting

characters in the horde hey look. It's a purple

Ewok Like if you took a trial and and a widget

yeah We should also mention that bow has arrow

his horse Pussycat he does know this scene by

scene do what I'm telling you this movie is 90

% Adam what do you think of that it's 90 % Adam

mm -hmm I didn't know that oh sorry I wish they

had a different voice for Glimmer. Do what? I

wish they had a different voice for Glimmer.

I think her voice is alright, but... It's too

much for Teela. I don't want to be reminded of

Teela. Madam Raz. And then Broom. I love Broom.

So you're immediately introduced to the counterparts

from He -Man, your comedic relief, you know,

who's taking Orkrow's spot, who's taking Kringer's

spot. You mean, well... I'm just saying, in a

comedic sense. Well, yeah, a little bit. Kringer

has enough lines in this. He's pretty funny.

Battle Cats got some good lines in this, too.

I'm just saying, like, going forward, you're,

you know, who you're gonna turn to for those

same type of moments. True, right. If you look

at glimmer and Adam they can almost be betrothed

to each other with their outfits between her

pink hair and purple stuff and his Pink shirt

and purple pants Quote Do what? Quote a friend.

Yeah That shot of villagers is more manly than

our shot of our our main characters right now

Yeah, pink purple a heart in his chest That is

some kind of ship that is some kind of design

look at the background too The backgrounds, oh

my god, so refreshing. Oh, man Hmm It's amazing

how blue Shimer still had some tricks in the

bag You would have thought we would have heard

all of his voices through his 150 characters.

We've already heard him voice They definitely

made adora stand out from a physical standpoint.

Oh, I'm a look she didn't look like she fit in

with that group It is a bright moon because that's

it's a lot of light in these things The extender

eyes cool feature on the toy Hey look, it's Panther's

girlfriend. Always thought that was a cool part

of the toy almost thought it looked too toy like

in the cartoon Mm -hmm the leeches hands and

feet yeah, I Wasn't expecting it to have the

circle outline Here we go our first transformation.

Oh, that's bright I Don't think it's ever been

this bright with the lightning. Oh, man. That's

awesome And battle cats. It's like the Cranium

Crunch from Crush. Finally some manliness. She's

the only one also without the horde symbol. Yep.

I almost wish they would have outfitted her more

like a horde member. Ooh, that was a hit. Catra

and Panthorne should get together. Yeah. I mean,

that's some weird bestiality going on, I guess,

but... Well, if Catherine the Great can do it

with a horse, I mean... Oh, that's rude. He -Man's

not supposed to be beating up on the girls, but...

Well That was always Tila's job Who's glad thankfully

absent from the scene Who Tila oh yeah, she's

not in this at all until the end quit ruining

things for people sorry I'm used to doing commentaries

with people that have seen the movie before I'm

not talking about me. This is that rare listener

out there that hasn't seen this Sneeze powder.

Forgot he had extra feet. Yep. With boots only

on two of them. Yep. Okay, Oracle. That voice

sounded too much like Oracle. Brutal. I'm sorry,

but that would have caused Battle Cat... I know

Battle Cat supercharged from the power of Grayskull,

but I'm sorry, that would have caused him to

have a cavity or something. Delayed unsheathing

of the sword. Well, that's her sword. His sword

was caught by... That was the second sword he

had sheathed back there. Mysterious it's like

the swords are now part, you know, just like

Optimus Prime's trailer, right? Where the hell

is it going you transfer? I like their weapons

too. It's very simple. Yeah a little it's almost

like a pointer that you'd point at like a bulletin

board or something with He didn't say the magic

words the sprouts i think they're called twiggets

but yeah if you look it's it's orion or orion

or whatever that stupid thing is from never ending

story Broom looks like or the yeah, the broom

looks like Lumiere. Mm -hmm Scary looking place.

Mm -hmm He's not enjoying that folks Good drawing

on his hands and arms in that scene. Yep He's

Really got a flushed out six -pack there. He's

been working out in between series. I mean look

at him I mean the lines on him to show where

his muscles are his bones are that is so super

defined Yeah First real interaction between the

two pretty cool Yeah, but that was a weird smile

on his face. Can't tell if he likes her Related

to her It's a whole Luke Leia thing going on

here a lot of Star Wars connections in this story

There is a lot of Star Wars stuff in the story,

but thank God they never kiss That always cracked

me up that they put his frickin face on it Yeah,

I thought it was cheesy He's cool to have his

face on the machine like that They put his face

on that they put his face on the ground vehicles

right a lot of things. Yeah, I think that was

necessary He's like Klingon that he's reading

I guess It's a tall building. It, um... It was

a long pan. Very long pan. It's like the Sorcerer,

she's out of power. Well, she did have most of

it sucked out of her earlier by leech so I mean

just remember at least there's a real You know

at least there's a reason for it. I'm like, you

know half of he man You'd like that wouldn't

you better cat This is Dark Dream's wife from

the He -Man series Never trust a woman You should.

It's like they've split Orko into two characters.

Madame Raz and the cowl. Yeah. Oh, the classic

generic beast. Where's he man to punch him in

this sand? Well, they had to show off the new

powers of the new characters They could have

just run after this but they don't Look at broom

space. He's like, oh, I'm not sure this is gonna

work Look at the monster smile. But both eyebrows

don't match his mustache or his hair. No, that's

weird You're like calling anything a secret mission

draws more attention to you Look at the great

horse there spirit The aetherians look a lot

like the Eternian sometimes Not salt water. Like,

what has she been doing her whole life to not

be exposed to any of the bad stuff they do? She's

been training in the fright zone, she said it.

I know, but for 30 years? 20 years? Yep. And

they've taken hordak and shadow weaver have probably

taken extra precautions. So yeah, you know Battle

cats dead. No, he's not it hit his armor Good

look at Grizz lore there a couple seasons ago

shots ago. Mm -hmm The She -Ra version of Beast

Man. Wow. Yeah, this is so Beast Man. I do like

Grizzler's voice. It's very different because

it has some sort of vibration. Yeah, it's modulated

a little bit, and I like that. Rude awakening

for a Dora They can just open the door there's

no guards You also just push a button that opens.

There's no pass codes. No fingerprints. No. Yeah,

they just walk right in it's back in the 80s

Yeah, just have to push a button. Oh Peek -a

-boo I Said peek -a -boo not peek -a -blue Good

shot The outlining and drawing on human is so

much more Distinct than it is on anybody else.

Well that and it's they up the animation. Yeah

This isn't just stock anymore. This is all most

of this is all new animation and His facial expressions,

honestly, I'm sorry to say half of them suck

because they've upped the animation Hordak almost

looks like he has like fish like feet. Mm -hmm.

He's got flippers almost He's still struggling.

He's never gonna beat those things. The one thing

he man can't break. Yep. It's like a gremlin.

It's a Furby. Yep. It's a weird looking face.

Good setup for how pathetic these characters

are apparently. Oh The one thing I do remember

about Shira is that They make the men more pathetic.

Yeah So they you know, don't get me wrong folks.

I'm not trying to be unpolitically correct here,

but you know Women power is great and all that,

but the men in this, in She -Ra later, just...

Yeah, look at Hordak's feet there. Yeah, they

are flippers. He's a Danny Elfman penguin. He's

got a little merman. Not Danny DeVito, not Danny

Elfman, Jesus Christ. He's got a little merman

in him. Yeah. Luke Shimer might have done a hundred

voices just in this mm -hmm It's even got the

rescue Scenario kind of like a Star Wars storyline

there Trying to find the right cell and rescue

him, but you screw up and they needed the trash

compactor scene to make it legit And here's where

Empire comes in. Separate so I can get my hand

cut off. Side by side control room chairs. That's

odd. Oh got a clean break there mm -hmm You'd

think he tried to go back and get his sword,

but no Look at that, the fright zone is amazing.

They even have statues of the Horde Dribbers.

He doesn't know who He -Man is. Watch out. Mothers

were creepy hooded creatures with yellow eyes

Notice she wait oh I never I don't remember she

actually held the sword. I thought she just mystically

picked it up, but Cool counterpart to what Evelyn's

role would have been in He -Man. Mm -hmm But

a little very much a little more creepy and mystical

oh Yeah, Shadow Weaver is magic done, right?

I mean Evelyn had some cool stuff, but She's

not as cool as Shadow Weaver. I See this is what

I'll get he didn't have his sword When he was

moving the prison whatever he didn't have his

sword So I'm like where the hell is the human

sword and now all of a sudden they're back to

Adam and Cringer a Lot of things happen in commercial

breaks Creepy Mm -hmm It's like it's about to

have surgery on itself. Yeah, big cloth Obviously

a big stark contrast that they're making here

between the nature and the mechanical Nature

and technology. Yeah Imp Something we didn't

get in He -Man. Skeletor had no imp. Thank God.

Actually, he did. He was called Beast Man. But

not like a sidekick comic relief kid. Yeah. Panther

was a much more different type of character.

And Panther was hardly ever seen in the entire

Filmation He -Man series. Unfortunately. Like

me antenna, mm -hmm It's floating The Valley

of the Lost sounds so much better than the Valley

of Power thought we're going to land of the lost

I Could do without him Yeah, I could do without

a lot of the side characters in this series.

They even call in the good characters in this,

the rebels. Mm -hmm. A lot of nods to Star Wars.

Yep, the evil horde and the rebels, yep. Hordak's

laugh is cool, but Skeletor's is better. Yeah.

Focus on crotch Yeah, huh, why are you touching

yourself? Why are you touching yourself? Why

are you touching yourself makes you disappear?

The interesting part of the story where they

explained to us the whole thing the whole plot

behind this Thing he's doing here as he sucks

the energy out of everybody And it introduces

an element of time to the rest of the story.

Yeah, as we try to fill the meter up Helps keep

things in order as they get to watch the meter

increase over time Hey look Skeletor is human

The guy in this it's Alan's voice Didn't know

Skeletor went balding in his old age. Christ,

he kind of looks like George Costanza. Neither

does Adora. He said he doesn't look much like

a member of the Horde, but neither does Adora.

True. Okay, all throughout Tales of Eternia when

we're doing the He -Man show, we've said that

the whole transformation thing, we know it's

for us, but those guards just walked by him,

and all of a sudden he's gonna stand on a cliff

in view of everybody. He ain't afraid of shit.

I know, but... And we even get the dressing up

like a stormtrooper Never enough power The meter

is empty. Yeah Troopers are not allowed to have

long hair What do you think of the effects on

the orb here it's alright I'm glad we can't actually

see Until it goes to that angle yeah, but yeah,

if you were trying to apply to be a hordes member

remember no long hair allowed I don't think I've

ever seen a character in any cartoon series with

red teeth like Hordak. There we go, setting up

the one -on -one confrontation. That's creepy.

For a second there, I didn't think he was gonna

touch that that's so inappropriate Hey, I know

but it's the way my mind works Don't make me

put my finger on your lips again Submissive look

at his arm his right arm sheath outside the horde

costume no it was inside he pulled it from inside

that'd be awkward probably have to get that out

all the way first and then i don't know took

it to the butt Shot in the ass hmm. I was just

gonna say it. I'm like Damn it Mike. You shot

me in the ass. You'll be alright Marcus That's

creepy His head apparently did detach it from

his body he holds it Animation probably not quite

how they wanted to done that Well extreme close

-up and a look at the swords That's not the best

shot of them no Got that right That's the best

shot How they're all What's the word focuses

on them more than it focuses on them, but it's

a silhouette. It's a silhouette kind of look

It's nice and shiny and right. Yeah More people

in their 90s that the sorceress get a door Where's

Katra? Yeah, I know right Let's keep our the

swords in the same room if we have him chained

up in Yeah, but he's not getting out. It's still

a weird place to put the swords. That should

be in their throne room or something If only

she had some earmuffs on Like dr. Jekyll and

Mr. Hyde That's the best shot the entire movie

of the swords as her as the doors, but of Her

with him in the background on the swords like

that And sorceress just spoiled things Take this

man as your husband quiet you Your brother Luke

I am your father Yeah, the whole Luke I'm your

father moment Mm -hmm. Anybody tired of my Star

Wars connections? No. Okay, good. May the Force

be with you. Oh, man. There was a convention

a couple of years ago where Melinda Britt went

to it, and she had not said these lines in 30

years. And she's always written. She usually

Refuses because she wants people to love the

effects on that Yeah, I always like the effect

on this way more than the human one With those

rainbow fireworks plus with that thing that went

all the way down on her like that. Yeah Very

I don't like that. It turns into Castle Bright

Moon though, but yeah What I was saying was Malindy

Britt, the voice actress for She -Ra and Adora.

She was at, I think it was Power and ThunderCon

a couple of years ago. I think it was like 2012,

2013. It had been 30 some odd years or 20 some

odd years since she had actually ever spoke those

lines. And she actually refuses when anybody

in an interview asks her to say for the honor

of Grayskull, she won't do it because she wants

people to, she doesn't want to screw it up. She

wants people to remember it the way it was. Right.

And the way that it was meant to be. She is so

much more badass than Adora. Well, yeah, but

I mean... Just in every way possible such a much

cooler character. Yeah, but Adora is not as weak

-willed as Adam. Like, Adam is... That's probably

more to do with the male -female thing. Yeah.

And her crown thing is I always thought that

was super cool. It's not just like a regular

crown It goes all the way up and down her face

No, none of us know don't worry the device of

the week This is where his arm gets cut off.

I'm just kidding Doesn't even use her sword this

time anyway Apparently all he man has to do is

sit on cranger. No And of course, since we didn't

get the typical intro, we don't know who knows,

you know what I mean, who will eventually find

out who She -Ra is. Yep. That'll be something

we get as we go forward. Yep. Probably one of

the most empowering female cartoon characters

of the entire decade. One of, yes. I'll agree

with one of. There is another one. She's usually

truly outrageous, so. Yeah, I think they're on

level playing field. I mean, you have Jira, you

have like Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortkick,

I guess, in a younger age thing. Or O 'Neil maybe,

but definitely one of the ones at the top here.

Especially when you would think about like of

a strong female character Maybe Penny from Inspector

Gadget Maybe Chitara Haven't got a lot of the

other Horde members since that introductory Segment

it's been mainly Hordeck and the Shadow Weaver

since then imp has also disappeared Which I think

we can agree is not such a bad thing that he

has Okay, we gotta say something right here.

He has her he has his hand on her hip it's all

right as long as it doesn't slide down anymore

now it's on their hand it just don't kiss her

luke it's all the convincing it takes for shiro

Apparently she woman didn't sound good enough

Oh There's your tear that you don't like I don't

mind it in that sense Okay, wasn't though the

episodes over I'm gonna have one tear go down

or something like that That was one of the one

times I've seen it that I didn't mind it See

look his face is on everything those horde members

had no faces. They have no eyes. Yeah Backstory

Not the magic of the sorceress Marlena looks

shady She looks very young It's a terrible look

for Hordak Marlena showing off her earthly duties.

Yeah, I don't like the young look of Marlena.

It just doesn't look right. That's why I question

why he didn't Like he knows this world exists

Mm -hmm, but they were so perplexed as to the

other worldly features of the swords Well, let's

say for example, it's safer he man and she were

there 30 years old in this It's been 30 years

Not a lot of you know Whoa eyes her eyes were

like cross -eyed for a second It's like one of

those magic eye things I Love that effect. I

always have I don't know why it's like blowing

He's like, I've tried to get rid of it at least

once. And a smooch. Shut up. Horse approves of

the incest. Hey now. Just kidding. That's kind

of an interesting main difference to between

the two series whereas and he man you got You

know everybody knows who he is from the get -go

Well, yeah, I mean he's he's a good character

from the beginning whereas in this one She starts

on the other side and they have to kind of adopt

her right Dark and ominous skies Creepy. Sounds

like a 80s version of Lady Gag Me. Oh jeez. Some

melons there. Um, no comment. Throwing food at

her. If you folks go back and pause it on Queen

Angella's image when Hunga threw the food at

her, look at what is marked on Queen Angella's

chest. Well, it didn't break the door, it just

opened it. Yeah. What the hell kind of disguise

is that? It's like a Queen Angela cloth. It's

like what the hell This lady's so creepy now

at every Michael's location Queen Angela cloths

fruit punch That's a roll -up of a different

color That could either be a boy or a girl Outside

of the voice Yeah, oh my god if you think about

it with the voice Lady and whiner really grew

up what happens? Hunger has herpes Never crossed

the streams, but it works in this case So that's

what happens when you put those swords together

She was so cool -looking See look look at her

chest plate That voice is terrible I kind of

like it Kind of goes in line with glimmer just

as to slow and Robot has a nice effect She is

a lesbian I don't think that's what I said, but

okay. That's what She -Ra said. She said Queen

Agela is magnificent. Now they're searching for

Glimmer. But they should know, like He -Man and

She -Ra should know where Glimmer is because

of the fact that they just left the Whispering

Woods. True. Look at Broom and Madame Razz. Broom,

I swear, is Lemire's, like, half -brother. Yeah.

Also we need is magneto to be That background

could be both flowering things and it could be

something from Willy Wonka Could be edible. I

Thought it was the rolled -up hedgehogs from

frozen in the 80s All could be that cotton candy

Well, it's not like they're trying to disguise

themselves No true he needs to put his hands

somewhere else The Hordeck machine that's a cool

shot. Mm -hmm. It's kind of like they're both

on a throne It's talking directly to the camera.

It's a Ferris Bueller moment, ladies and gentlemen.

Tila, on the other hand, probably won't. So cheesy

yeah, oh my lord I Don't know about that Yet

hordex not behind them It's a time displacement

thing the only thing I can think of is think

of Spock and Nero While it was only seconds for

him it was years. Can we get out of this dumb

spaceship looking thing? Every time I see Wardak

now, I keep wanting to say I pity the fool It's

so cool until he turns into cheesy looking things

like that Good memory. Dun dun dun, the plot

thickens. Why would he make them do that? Because

he wants to surprise them. I mean, technically,

this is a sleeping beauty moment. Why do they

all open their eyes at different times? Usually

at a time like that, everybody would open their

eyes at once. Think they wanted to show reactions

like you open your eyes first then you open your

eyes Well, everybody's crying except for Tila

because she's a jealous bitch And she's stronger

than you But you got to remember though the sorceress

did say that she wiped everyone's memory except

for the king and queen and men and arms So Tila

I mean yeah sure I'm not disagreeing with you

about the jealous bitch comment, but it well

She's gonna be jealous that there's another chick.

That's better than her sure Holding hands father

and son mother and daughter and father and daughter

yeah This is something you always got to look

forward to here Thinking back then that you're

about to see a Hordak Skeletor meeting Love that

pose He's mr. December with that pose Duh Why

is it I wanted them to write that like The math

and the student has now become the math No, when

I left you I was but the learner now. I am the

best There's another cheesy whore deck thing.

Oh I kind of like the drill. It's kind of funny.

It'd be fine if they didn't have to give him

his face every time What a door That's a cool

shot of Snake Mountain. Hordak needs to work

on that laugh. Yeah. Oh! You weren't expecting

them, were you? I forgot about those guys. The

whole gang. I forget which episode it was, but...

Of course that's a replication of the chef from

Eternia. Chef Alan, right. That's what I was

talking about when we did that podcast episode.

I don't remember which one it was, but that we

would see him again. Sort of. Huh. He's still

a guy, you know Try clubs making a rare appearance

very rare It's one way to get in They're shooting

at you stop talking to them although I guess

they stopped shooting so you could talk Come

on you catch Skeletor every time The Queen is

one with that throne You didn't care about her

for these last 20 years. No, I'm talking about

He -Man's. I'm talking about Man in Arms' line.

No, I'm just talking about Queen said you took

my girlfriend back. You didn't care the last

20 years where she was. It goes back to the whole

spell thing. The whole what? Spell thing that

the sorceress cast. Yes, she remembers the thing,

the daughter, but I don't know. I'm saying they've

made no attempts to get her back over the last

20 years Apparently not And let's face it this

is a Somewhat Retelling of a Star Wars story.

I mean the twins The Emperor and Vader could

be Hordak and Skeletor. Let's you know, let's

not beat around the bush here Oops Where's evil

in that's the only one that's missing This is

a door it's not very tough Did he hit that with

his hand or her boot? Not sure. One down Is it

just me or does trap job look fat right there

in that frame? Yeah, I Love that effect with

the colored flares Mm -hmm Just happens that

the first time you see me is also the day that

you see princess adora Ouch It's a good picture

right there Skeletor with that scallop skull

on It's a nice pose Notice how Tila gets more

jealous now. Best quote from the movie. Yeah.

But I haven't cared about you for 20 years. Two

seasons. Group hug. The setup? Not yet. Yeah,

the setup. For the most part. The setup for the

stories of She -Ra defending Etherea. There are

just so many technical things in this thing.

Like in the last two and a half scenes here.

Where She -Ra just disappears. She doesn't even

walk through the door and then Adam just appears

without any sound. Effect of a portal opening

or closing This is the best scene of the entire

movie Until a few minutes ago. She didn't even

know what that was No, I know but I know I just

saying it's funny that her thing is about something

that's not even in her world She doesn't point

swords at things No Let's face it folks the female

version of he man was supposed to be a little

bit more gentle because of Working with appealing

to young girls in the 80s Plus most of her power

comes out of that jewel, right? That's just weird.

When did they all get the hats? I was going to

say, when did they all get the hats? Angela too,

not Angela. At least these don't have Hordak's

face on them. There's a lot of those things hidden

in that little fortress. It's like the clown

cab. Mm -hmm But gorge no destruction has ever

come to the hive machines like this About time

nobody picked up their hat though All got hit,

really? Best aiming of bad people ever. You tell

him Orko. That's not Orko. That's Sprag. That's

why they didn't put Orko in the show at all.

You know, there's too many other kid characters.

And really Madame Raz is kind of orco ish. I

mean hell she looks just like him sort of in

her colors and stuff so I think what they did

with orco is that they took Madame Raz and broom

and Split orcos personality into two characters

where you have Madame Raz is kind of like the

forgetful You know her magic always screws up

and then broom is the adventurous side of orco

where it's right You know, it's a sarcastic side

and all that and hey look she can heal people.

She can talk to the animals, heal the animals,

feel what the animals feel. She's a Dr. Dolittle

of Etherea. Cinderella's mice come in here. The

funny thing is all I can think of is the space

mice from Voltron. Wondering why a sneeze dust

would work on somebody with a robotic helmet.

Temperature much So we get bone brain and jar

head Rocket again Like whoever thought of the

idea of him turning into different shapes like

that is Not a very bright person. It's not polite

to speak ill of the dead. I don't care. I think

it was Lou Shimer, but I could be wrong. Everything

else works about Hordak except for that. Wouldn't

it make more sense for them to team up and take

out Skeletor and then team up and take out Hordeck

You're gonna hate this moment here in a minute,

and I'll reply to that tear yeah That's the one

that's not okay The others I didn't mind, but

that one's bad as far as the team up stuff. Yeah,

I mean keep going Yeah the The team up stuff,

they do actually, I do know of several episodes

outside of this. No, I'm not saying they don't

team up during the She -Ra series. I'm just saying

it would make more sense just strategically to

know how unstoppable they are together to just

team up and solve one world's problem and then

solve the other world's problem after that. True,

very true. A bunch of dead people here. Come

on, come on. There might be a few people still

living on this list. Wow. Got a got a got a comment

on the credits here Still waiting for a name.

I know I thought that was gonna say Lorenzo deep

on a venture or whatever the guy one of the guys

from the transformers live Yeah The Pope was

involved in this that's good No voice credits

in this It might be at the very end. Oh, I guess

not. Unless we missed it at the beginning, maybe.

Well, Erica Shimer singing I Have the Power.

Yep. Levi Saban and Erica Shimer composed it.

Yep. I didn't know she did much music stuff.

I thought it sounded familiar. That's cool. Yeah.

1985. Good Lord. I wish I could go back to that

time. 30 years ago this year. Alright folks,

that's gonna do it for the commentary for Secret

of the Sword. We'll be right back with final

thoughts, other dissections and more, and then

a preview of what's to come later this year for

Myths of Etherea. We'll be back after this. Alright

folks, we are back here on Myths of Etherea episode

46 overall for Powers of Grayskull series now,

sir. It's been 30 years or so. It's been 30 years

since the release, but it's probably been about

28 or so since you've actually seen the movie

What are your? Overall thoughts in brief looking

back at Secret of the sword I mean if you take

this and try to really break it down and and

be very critical about it Yeah, you can probably

find a whole bunch of different things that are

Wrong or misplaced or don't make sense or this

that and the other But if you take this for what

it was which is a cartoon in the 80s and a cartoon

that was trying to bridge the gap between two

series I think it works phenomenally It's also

something we didn't get a lot of I mean nowadays

use crossovers Maybe it's not such a big thing

because TV TV networks do it all the time now

to the point where it's not as special but rewind

Decades to back, you know to back to 1985, this

isn't something you saw a lot of. So especially

not in action adventure type cartoons like a

He -Man, you know what I mean? So I think that's

something that was very unique. I thought they

did a good job of balancing both worlds. Obviously,

the story was going to need to go to both to

Etheria and Eternia. So you kind of expect that.

But they do a good job of not necessarily throwing

every single character from both worlds at you,

but kind of throwing enough. And as we talked

about, they didn't include Orko. So they did

do some balancing as far as You know, how many

comedic characters do we have? How many, you

know, etc. How many villains? How many heroes?

And they did a decent job of balancing that,

I thought. Really cool to see new characters

after 130 episodes of He -Man. Really cool to

hear some new voices, both in George DeCenzo

and Melody Britt. And what they bring, even seems

like a couple new voices from the standard voice

actors that we hadn't heard really that much

in the 130 episodes that they busted out for

some of these characters. So... All in all, I

think it's a good introduction to the series.

I think it does a good job. Especially, you know,

it could have ended almost at that one point

where it was just She -Ra going back to Aetheria

to fight the battles and wage the wars. Like,

they almost didn't even need He -Man to go back

there, but I understand that they wanted to,

you know, kick Hordak out of the castle so you

could kind of set that up for the series. But

I think it does a decent job of setting up what's

going on here, and it also sets up the possibility

that you're going to see crossovers between the

worlds. Throughout the She -Ra series, so I think

that's something that fans of the He -Man series

Can be excited about and I think that's one way

to kind of keep the the guys interested in the

series as well. What about you? For me, I you

know, it's been 30 years and I still Love this

movie sure in the commentary. We made little

snide comments about certain things and I made

Star Wars references But I mean seriously look

at this and tell me that the writers here were

not influenced by A New Hope. I mean, you can't

say that they weren't. I mean, you really can't

at all. I still love this movie. I can watch

it at any time if I'm wanting to. And if you

really look at it like you were saying, there's

only three 80s cartoons that have had... three

80s action cartoons that had theatrical film

releases. Transformers, This, and G .I. Joe.

Yeah I You know still absolutely love it. I think

you know you mentioned earlier in the commentary

about oh no evil in I think the reason why she

wasn't there is because it would have taken away

from Shadow Weaver some people might have thought

it would take because Like I was saying, it's

more of a balance since we have so many female

characters in Etheria. When we go back to Eternia,

we don't necessarily need to see all the female

characters or the two of them. Just like we don't

need to see Orko in Eternia because we got a

lot of those comedic characters in Etheria. So

I think it's more of a balancing thing. I don't

have a problem with it. I mean, yeah, the selfish

person would like to see more, you know, some

type of like... group shot or some type of like

army invasion where you get to see Merman and

Evil Lynn and all of the evil warriors that have

ever appeared that would be awesome because that's

something we never get ever is a story that brings

them all together yeah but I mean I can understand

the balancing that you have to do it you can't

just throw everybody in the kitchen sink at it

or it'll just seem like that's what you're doing

just to do it Yeah, I mean and the cool thing

was honestly This is probably the one piece of

media in the Masters Universe franchise that

has more of triclops than any of the He -Man

series like you know triclops he He had more

lines here than in when he was actually in the

I do like the I do like the song that they put

in there to definitely reminds me of Stan Bush

and Transformers stuff just kind of something

where you're doing a theatrical thing and You

bust out something completely different musically

And I enjoyed that song inclusion as well So

hats off to Erica Shimer and of course The the

staples when it comes to theme songs and music

and cartoons in the 80s A couple of things to

get out of the way before we get out of here,

folks. We've got a new fan, Waltor Grayskull.

He goes by Waltor3 on iTunes. He left us a new

review. And he's a five -star review left on

March 21st, 2015. Spikor's scene, I love the

show and love the support you are giving to the

Motu P .O .P. property. Question, was Optimus

Solo about to comment on the Sirius scene in

Visitors from Earth? When Skeletor ordered Spike

Orr to get the pilots, I think that he's talking

about you got sidetracked. The way Spike Orr

walked towards the pilots was kind of scary for

an 80s cartoon. I don't remember what we were

talking about with that episode. It was something

about the Spike Orr walking towards the screen

and he seems to think you got confused about

something. I don't know. I'll have to re -listen

to that and see what exactly we're talking about.

So folks I know Everyone has loved for the most

part powers of grayskull tales of Eternia since

2011 2012 we are going to be going on a Five

month hiatus we're gonna come back on the actual

air date that Into a theory of the first episode

of she were princess of power aired in September

but As we said at the beginning of this podcast

episode, we're not just going to be sitting on

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podcasts. We're just not going to release it.

Who's Laurel and why would you sit on her? Sorry.

We're not just going to be sitting around doing

nothing, folks. We are going to be recording

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during Tales of Eternity. Right, exactly. So

episode 47 will air in September of 2015 and

then I... I don't I think it's I think the Shira

series runs 47 to 9 It's 35 episodes. I know

it's 35 Don't know that it will be 35 episodes.

So I'll start in September and it'll go for 35

Weeks right But what I was gonna say was is that

it runs from Runs from episode 46 to 82 of the

podcast That'll be and like optimus solo said

35 weeks will be doing that and Then we're probably

gonna take another little break after because

the next franchise after Shira Oh, God. Anyway,

we'll talk about that later. Any other final

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Anyway, as of right now, we're recording this

April 11th, 2015. On April 7th, La La Land Records

just released He -Man and the Masters of the

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is 111 tracks. music from Filmation's He -Man

and I have listened to it by the time this podcast

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amazing amazing stuff if you've ever if you're

like me and you ever wanted to hear the music

outside of its actual intention by itself this

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and a lot of stuff that I did not remember hearing

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