Xbox Live Outages, Retro Gaming Nostalgia, and Transformers: Age of Extinction

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hello and welcome to off the cuff episode 49

And welcome to Off the Cuff episode 49. I am

your host, as always, as usual, when it's not

the other guy, Mike Powers. And I'm joined by

the sometimes other host, Art Danner. And as

you can hear from the peanut gallery, it's just

the two of us. There really isn't any peanut

gallery. It's so quiet. It is. Let's just let's

just sit here and admire the silence for 90 minutes

Do you think people would still listen well if

90 minutes later the outro song played gonna

say if we just did go 90 seconds, so it'd be

the Longest no one's heard anything stupid to

come out of Sean's mouth on the podcast when

he's on so there is that If he isn't even on,

does that even count? I guess it doesn't. I mean...

There's another podcast where he hasn't been

on, which means he's been silenced for minutes

at a time. I know, but I can always hear him

in the back of my mind making stupid comments.

That sounds like a personal problem. Saints Row

4 is so good. Doesn't seem like an add -on pack

at all. Hey! Speaking of games, we tried to play

some today. It was difficult. Yes, it was. Let's

see. Out of the three times that I've ever tried

to play my Xbox One, this is the second time

the Xbox Live hasn't worked. So I've actually

only used my Xbox One once now. Yep. I mean,

that's all you're supposed to use it for. Yeah,

well, I mean it says one so yeah, you're always

supposed to be able to play it once and then

after that it you have to buy another one 500

bucks every time you want to play pretty much

because It's pretty good business plan. I mean

just so everyone knows You know Dan and I try

to play Titanfall on the Titanfall launch day

and live would not cooperate And then we tried

it again that weekend that Friday Yep, obviously

things stabilized and we played for a few hours

and just today we decided hey Let's play some

Titanfall before we record because hey that game

is actually quite good Except the service that

it runs on is not so good. Um Xbox live is still

down It has been down for two and a half hours

now I'm assuming it's because of that big game

came out today. What big game? Exactly. I'm just

irritated. You're irritated. Okay, listen, I'm

especially irritated because I spent $1 ,060

to play a game with you and we can't even play

the damn thing. Nope. We've played it once. It

was fun when we played it though It was the one

time we were able to play it or allowed to play

it. I don't know how it works with Microsoft

Yeah, are we allowed to play their games? I don't

think so. I Hope we're gonna be allowed to play

crackdown 3. Yeah, right. This same stuff is

gonna happen Xbox live status update affected

platforms Xbox one Xbox live core services are

limited which means you cannot sign into Xbox

live which means you can't do shit now up until

about two weeks ago this means that the Xbox

won't be effectively a brick because everything

used to be behind the paywall But now nothing

is behind the paywall, so everything still works

except for Xbox Live. Maybe this was part of

their plan. Now people won't complain as much

because not as many people are actually playing

the multiplayer services. Now they're gonna put

it all back behind the paywall. See? See, guys?

See what happens? I mean, it wouldn't be unlike

them to take a 180 on their stance. They've never

did it. What are you talking about? They've never

done that before Why would they start now if

they did it again, they'd be able to call it

the Xbox one 360 Because it would have been a

full circle rotation on everything they've said.

Yep Mmm They truly know what gamers want This

is true wishy washyness. I love the wishy washyness

They're flip -floppers. You know, there's a small

part of me that wishes that they would have Stuck

with their guns with everything that they announced

I'd respect them more. Yeah, I that's that's

that's part of what it is for me It's like if

you're gonna say something you might as well

just do it and hope for the best I mean, that's

what Apple does Yeah, Apple just tells people

to it's the it's Apple's way of the highway,

but apparently Microsoft doesn't have that kind

of wiggle room or the rabid fan base I Think

they get a rabid fan base. They're just all racist

douchebags Or at least from you know what I've

gotten from people that are playing an Xbox live.

That's true It could be the same way in PlayStation

Network, but we'll never know because we automatically

jump in a party. Yeah So it's talking to people

silly We also tried War Thunder on the ps4 We

thought we would play that instead of Titanfall

Yeah It's not exactly a great substitution, but

it was the two matches we got to play were fun

The shortcoming in the game to War Thunder on

the PS4 is the menus They aren't built for the

console like it's a straight PC port right down

to the fact that they use the touchpad as your

mouse cursor I don't mind it. I don't mind it

I'm just saying that it'd be frustrating if I

didn't know what its origins were. But but at

the same time, kind of like you maybe should

have put some time into making a console centric

interface. Porting is hard. It is. And I understand

that they're a small team. I'm just saying. It.

The menus are what drove me crazy. Once I got

into the game and I realized that they did a

complete overhaul of the way the game works with

a controller, it was much more fun. It would

have been better if I didn't crash into that

mountain. I saw that. That was an epic crash.

I was trying to save you. Trying to save me?

I was nowhere near the mountain. I was going

after the guy that was going after you. You just

happened to split off and come after me. I did

one too many 360s in the air and ran to a mountain.

I was showboating all of that. Whoops. That's

what you get for pulling a Microsoft. Yeah. Well,

no, I would have stopped at 180 degrees if I

was pulling a Microsoft. I haven't been playing

anything else since last week. I'm trying to

remember if I... Nope. Oh, how excited are the

listeners? Three episodes in three weeks. I know!

I think we're done. We're on a streak. We're

on a streak. We can't stop. I mean, next week

would be the big 5 -0. Big 5 -0 and the end of

Off the Cuff. And Joe would be... Joe should

be back. He'll be back for the final episode?

Yeah. We should just call it the final episode.

Okay. To get people all in a tizzy. Eh. Speak

of it as if it's the... Speak of it as if it's

season seven of Friends. Like, it's the final

episode. Does that mean we have to have ridiculous

guest stars for absolutely no reason whatsoever?

No. It just means that... We advertise episode

50 as the finale and then everyone gets all rabid

and listens because it's going to be the finale.

And then because so many people listen and comment,

we keep the podcast going. Oh, OK. I mean, that's

what happened with Friends. Season seven was

supposed to be the final season and then the

ratings went up. And so like, no, not really.

There's going to be an eighth season. So wait

a second, let me get this right So if we like

increase our viewers past five people to like

seven We'll keep going. Yeah, make sense to me.

Actually actually I'll lay this out there if

we get Let's do let's make it reasonable here

if we can get three more reviews on iTunes To

bring it the review total of off the cuff 210

from 7 to 10 We will keep going Man, it's like

we're yeah, I don't know man. You're kind of

giving them ultimatums I got more important things

to do. Oh, I know now you're shitting on them

Come on they've got two weeks to do three reviews

Mean that's like a review and a half a week You

do realize we left for like two months so for

no reason whatsoever Well, there's reasons but

yeah, there were good reasons there weren't anything

to talk about oh Except for the fact that we

kind of you know, whatever miss the holy three

thing A week after We we could have come back

a week sooner. We could have done our prediction

episode Says the guy that doesn't like predictions.

I hate predictions I mean we did our prediction

episode at the beginning of the year and I Like

I said, I haven't gone back to listen, but I'm

pretty sure you owe me a copy of GTA 5 I don't

know what you're talking about If we had the

podcast it doesn't matter anyways So I have been

thinking about things that we could do for off

the cuff and Doesn't really seem like it's gonna

matter if it's gonna be our last episode doesn't

mean we can't do other things like YouTube videos

I Mean yeah Good we can go from something that

has three views instead of five listeners Hey,

you know it is what it is Don't know. I just

realized I have all the stuff now to like Record

anything we want in Joe's basement with the three

of us like actually live -stream it and it sounds

really dirty Yeah three of us in Joe's basement

This is giant tub of Crisco. Let's put it to

use That's with that's the way the cookie crumbles

Well, that's the way the Crisco cran can crumbles.

Oh This went to a bad place. I apologize. It's

okay. It's just you and me here. No one's listening

to this. With the lotions on its skins. That's

what I've been doing. I've been reading the Hannibal

Lucker books. I finished Red Dragon. And I'm

currently making my way through Silence of the

Lambs. Nice. I have not been reading. Oh, that's

a lie. I've been reading, just not books. Hey,

we're not here to talk about that stuff. I've

actually been playing Super Metroid That is what

I have been spending my time playing That's I

do like me some Super Metroid I'll say it actually

looks pretty good on my TV like blown up. Yeah,

but I like playing it just on the game pad So

there's that Hmm it's the summer there's not

a lot of talk about guys What do you want from

us? Did you see the Fallout 3 speedrun? No. It's

like 24 minutes long and then everybody was like,

oh my god, it's amazing. They did 24 minutes

and somebody beat it today. Oh wow. Yeah. It's

like, are you kidding me? I know someone beat

Mario, the first Mario in like 4 minutes 57 seconds.

Jeez. Speaking of speedruns, I watched my first

speedrun the other day. I mean I know what they

are I know I know like of them and stuff like

that, but I've never actually like watched one

Mainly because I like to consider myself a good

gamer Makes you seem like a shitty gamer afterwards

doesn't it it does I decided to watch the one

for Super Metroid Where the guy beats it in like

50 minutes or something like that 100 % of the

game in 50 minutes, and I'm watching it. I'm

like oh my gosh holy cow i thought i was pretty

good at the game no this guy is crazy and i mean

obviously there's people that have spent like

years playing this game and like mastering all

the ins and outs and the little glitches and

whatnot but i was impressed i didn't watch the

whole thing i watched up into where up to where

i am in the game because i didn't want everything

spoiled i still wanted some of that um Exploration

stuff to happen, you know for me to find stuff

in my own. Yeah speaking of Is there anything

in a game that ruins the momentum of a game like

x -ray vision Like think about this for a second

your mode But detective was not Not really. I

don't think detective mode hurts as much as like

x -ray vision does because when you use detective

mode the entire screen Becomes like detective

mode And maybe this is just like a 16 -bit thing,

you know, like the side scrolling thing. ID Clip.

The hell's that? You don't know what that is?

No. He must have not been a PC gamer. Not really.

Back in the day. Wood Doom. Sorry, no. ID Clip

takes clipping off so you can just, you know,

rise up into the sky and pass through walls and

just completely break the entire game. Okay.

Well... The other reason I ask is because in

Super Metroid you can get x -ray vision. And

before that, you know, you're running around,

you're shooting stuff, you're doing your own

exploring and things like that. And now I feel

like since I've gotten the x -ray vision, I can't

walk more than like four feet or like take more

than four steps before I turn the x -ray vision

on again and scan everything. It's like, is there

something here? Okay, the screen's moved over

just enough. Okay, I'm gonna scan this entire

section of the screen. And I feel like it just

like kind of like destroyed the momentum of the

game and I find myself in that Walking that very

fine line between oh just forget about it if

I find it I find it and then there's like the

I Do suffer from the same thing that you do where

it's like I want to find it if I can find it

Just not as bad as you I Get a bad obsession

with collecting and so like I you know I'm constantly

like fighting myself like scan don't scan scan

don't scan I'm just curious if like I mean Detective

vision doesn't really count for me because detective

vision you can walk around with it still on I

Think it takes away from how pretty the game

is. Oh, well, yes, absolutely But I'm saying

like it doesn't it doesn't hurt the momentum

because you can still run down a hall It's just

if you see something that's bright orange, you

know, it's something you can interact with Whereas

with this with at least with the way it's implemented

in Super Metroid it's just that little narrow

beam that's like that's the x -ray vision so

you have to like spin it around the entire screen

and it's not on all the time you have to turn

it on and off i think of anything in the game

just kind of suck the fun out of it the run shoes

and pokemon uh no that wasn't didn't suck the

fun out of it it never got the got the fun going

Because that's what somebody told me You need

running shoes in order to run in Pokemon right

when I was about to purchase my first Pokemon

game And I looked at them. I was like you know

what screw it. I can't do this You need running

shoes and run. I just it's not a thing That's

dumb So still never played a Pokemon game, I

have not you sorry I've played Pokemon snap Streak

ruined. What do you mean, streak ruined? Streak

of not playing one. That's true. I mean, does

Pokemon Snap even really count as a Pokemon game?

Yes, it has Pokemon on the title. Fine. Fine,

fine, fine. Smash Brothers doesn't count because

it has Pikachu in the game, but it isn't a Pokemon

game. But it doesn't say Pokemon on the title?

Correct. So if it was like Pokemon Smash Brothers

Melee? Then it would count Pokemon edition Smash

Brothers, then I would count Gotta catch them

all. Yep. I haven't even touched a Pokemon edition

game boy. So suck on that What about the Pokemon

edition in 64? I've seen it, but I haven't touched

it. You should touch it No, it's blue and yellow.

You should tell no there's one in Joe's basement.

I know that's where I've seen it That's where

I've seen and not touched a lot of things. I

can't touch that. That's disgusting. Put that

away, Joe. I don't know what he sticks in his

slots. So one of the things I thought we could

talk about besides this, the x -ray vision thing,

gameplay mechanics, I was actually thinking about

maybe waxing a little nostalgia. Being all nostalgic

about summertime video games. No such thing.

I was even thinking of taking it so far as to

say like Summertime video games and then dropping

in Will Smith's Summertime But then I realized

I don't want to do all that work of finding this

song and putting it in So anyways, what are your

favorite like like for me I've got like starfox

64 especially Harvest Moon on the Super Nintendo.

I mean more recently summer has become like a

big thing so you've got like your infamous and

stuff like that but that's not really like super

nostalgic. But I remember playing like Mario

RPG and like Killer Instinct at like the end

of summer and stuff like that. Do you have any

games that you remember playing like in the summer

that you really enjoyed? Teaser into Charles

tournament fighters. I don't remember that game

so well for some reason put the crap out of that

game On Super Nintendo. It's when I actually

had an affinity for fighting games My my affinity

for fighting games died somewhere in the PlayStation

air the first PlayStation I Think rival schools

was the last fighting in that really had any

grip over me Unless you count the WWE games as

a... Fighting games? Fighting games. No, the

WWE games are fake. Well, all video games are

fake. Yeah, but they're like fake fake. Because

they're video games about a sport that's not

really a sport? Yep. Well, yeah. You put that

one together awfully quick. Well, duh. Just like

basketball games, so I've got like the first

Metroid that was like a summer game for me, but

I was playing the I Heard something No, you didn't

oh I did oh you didn't I did I haven't recorded

I Don't know what you're talking lie to me Yeah,

I played the the first Metroid at the same time

I was playing Super Metroid in 94 when I was

a you know child So those were both big like

in summer games for me I guess that's one of

the reasons why it's like let's let's talk about

like summer games is because I'm Playing Super

Metroid and summer and I did that, you know 20

years ago 20 years ago old Think about that for

a second Super Metroid is a 20 year old game

Like there are things in my life that I Don't

I don't feel old. I know you probably do because

you have kids Thanks, I don't I don't ever like

feel old until something is like pointed out

to me because for all intents and purposes Jurassic

Park came out like two years ago But It's not

until someone goes no that movie is 21 years

old that you go. Oh shit Like So when I when

I think about when I think about games and movies

and stuff like that I don't ever really think

I think about like enjoying those things I never

really think about how old they are until someone

actually like points it out, and then I actually

feel old So like cannot believe that Jurassic

Park is 20 years old cannot believe that What,

Back to the Future is almost 30 years old? Right?

Yeah. Ghostbusters, 30 years old. It's just stupid.

We're old. Not really old. I don't feel like

it. Do you feel old? Yes, daily. Incredibly.

My body feels me like you wouldn't believe. I

was going to say, your body's falling apart.

You got a poor warranty. it's getting better

though actually the new meds i have man things

are looking up i'm not going to be running any

marathons anytime soon but like with the exception

of like bills and more money i a lot of the times

i feel and being married of course i feel like

the same person i was like 10 years ago i don't

know if that's something to brag about like i

feel professionally stuck in 2004 2004 2005 But

with the exception of you know more money and

bills and a home and a wife That's pretty much

how I like I always envision my Whenever I think

about how old I am for some reason. I always

just like think I'm like that old I'm perpetually

22 23 your toys have just gotten bigger. Yes,

my toys have just gotten more expensive But I

like the same toys, I'm just able to buy more

expensive versions of them. So I also know that

I have more video games now than I've ever had

in my life. I feel like I have less, but I have

more. Do you think... Digital's ruining me on

that. Do you think you could, uh, like, make

a list of all the games you had on the Super

Nintendo? Of the games I had? Yeah, that you

owned, personally. Have a lot so it'd be fairly

easy right that well. That's what I was that's

what I was getting at I mean, I honestly think

I I think I'd like fewer than maybe 15 games

Same here I had Final Fantasy Mystic Quest Final

Fantasy 3 I had teaching neutrals tournament

fighters and Mortal Kombat 2 and Mario Kart Mario

Paint Mario 64. Oh, wait. Now you just jump consoles.

I'm sorry. Not sorry. Super Mario world. I never

had a 64. Um, so super Mario world, super Castlevania

four, super Metroid, Mega Man X, Jurassic park,

link to the pass. Which I now own by the way,

I'm just waiting to play it By the way to the

person that wanted us to talk more about retro

stuff and super Nintendo and stuff like that

This is not that so I'm just trying to find stuff

for dead or died to talk about that as games

That is not us me being a drunken moron for an

hour I'm not drunk, so we're talking about games,

and I think that's progress over the last episode.

I don't know what happened. I just had like a

15 minute conversation of myself. I don't think

it was quite that long, but... What was the last

thing I said? I was talking to you... I was addressing

the listener that asked us to talk about Super

Nintendo and stuff like that. I was saying, this

is not that, and then your mic went dead. Huh.

Yeah, I've been talking for a while to myself.

It was only a few minutes. There was an entire

love fest about Super Castlevania 4. Too bad

that's lost for posterity. I know. Anyways, yes,

listener, this is not that. Episode where we

will dive into the Super Nintendo again, which

I think we covered it a little bit in When we

were extreme retro gaming But we can definitely

tackle that again because we'll have Joe do all

the research And he's bored if he needs things

to do right now, that's true so you can look

forward to that from from Joe Yeah, I don't think

I had I definitely think you had more Super Nintendo

games than I did. Like I had Mortal Kombat 2,

I had Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario World,

Yoshi's Island, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana,

Mega Man X, Star Fox. That's eight games that

I can remember. Did I really? Nope, Killer Instinct.

Did I really only have nine games? Super scopes

get six does that count? Well super scope games

really there was only one get over it, but I

so ten maybe Maybe ten Super Nintendo games that

I had so But yeah, we'll talk more about the

Super Nintendo when Joe comes back I Did put

feelers out there to see what the listeners would

want from us like, you know putting aside the

fact that we are a gaming podcast, first and

foremost. I asked them kind of like what they

would want to hear us talk about and got some

kind of decent amount of positive feedback with

our offseason stuff. I'm just not quite sure

how to handle that. It wasn't what you're looking

for, was it? No, it is. That's in the offseason

stuff. We talked about the other things that

we liked and stuff like that, but I'm wondering

There's a lot of little inside baseball here.

There's a lot of stuff, a lot of talk on GeekCast

Radio about having all the podcasts being similar

now, but just with different clicks, different,

you know, just different voices on each one.

So for instance you know everyone's talking about

Amazing Spider -Man when it comes out and they

end up putting up like four different podcasts

all about the Amazing Spider -Man. Again it's

all different points of view and different listeners

and different voices and hosts but you know it's

still four podcasts going up that talk about

Amazing Spider -Man. Wow that seems... I don't

know how to feel about that actually. Well one

of us likens it to like ESPN where you'll go

through like a bunch of different shows that

might cover the same news story, but it'll just

be different talking heads. Oh, so it's like

24 -hour news cycle, so we could just talk something

to death until nobody gives a crap about it anymore.

Well, we're not CNN. Or Fox News. Are we Fox

News? No. Maybe. There's been people compared

on the station to Fox News people. It's true.

But so, yeah, I'm OK with this. I am actually

thinking of doing something as like a bonus episode

on the end of Off the Cuff. because i know people

like to hear what we have to say and they like

when we f around um so yeah there might be something

coming up uh probably after episode 50 assuming

we make it to episode 51 you might find like

something special after the outro music so you'll

have that to look forward to um because remember

we used to do a podcast called the lunchroom

Nobody remembers that. No none of our current

if any of our current listeners ever listen to

the lunchroom. Thank you But I'm guessing none

of you ever did So there's that there's that

They're very excited that they got two episodes

in a row, but I already made that joke that there

get three Next week they'll have four I'd say

we could talk about Transformers, but Joe's not

here. We could talk about Transformers. I don't

want to talk about Transformers right this second.

Can we talk about Michael Bay though? Okay. I

don't hate him. I'll go on record as saying I

don't hate Michael Bay. I don't hate Michael

Bay either. How could you hate Michael Bay after

The Rock? I mean, come on. Pain and gain? No,

I mean The Rock. I know. I know what you're talking

about. Not the rock in painting I just I just

want to find some rockets Painting game was fantastic

But I don't know I think people are way too harsh

on I Mean people are harsh enough on Pearl Harbor,

but I think they're too harsh on train Transformers

except the second one It's ever the second one

which one deserves all it which we've said it

before there was one Simple fix to that movie.

And that would have been the casting of Will

Smith and Martin Lawrence. Yeah, exactly. That

would fix a ton of the issues. 90 % of that movie

would be fixed. Then you get rid of the female

Terminator transformer and we'd be golden. And

the ball's on Devastator. You know what? I want

to put this out there because this is one of

the things that kind of screw it. Let's talk

about transformers for a second. This is one

of the things that bothered me about the fourth

movie, which I actually enjoyed But it bothered

me And maybe this is something that they just

kind of borrowed from the cartoon because I do

notice that some of the characters in cartoons

have different faces But it bothered me that

some of the transformers actually appeared robotic

like optimus or bumblebee and like you know the

transformers that were in the first movie Versus

some like the newer transformers they seem to

get more realistic looking faces like lockdown

and the samurai yeah like their faces I mean

they're still like robotic in nature but they

look more t1000 liquid metal t1000 and their

facial structure and it's just kind of I see

that and I'm just kind of like okay that's just

kind of weird I mean it didn't ruin the movie,

but I'm just curious if there's like a reason

for that or if it's like... Because I think that

kind of happened in the cartoon too, didn't it?

Some of them ended up with more human looking

faces. I was gonna say a lot of the second gen

guys had way more humanoid looking faces. Okay.

Like Hot Rod and Blur and Cop and Arcee. Okay,

that's what I'm thinking of then, so it is kind

of something that comes out of the cartoon then.

Yeah. I will say, though, with this one, I was

more lost. I mean, I don't know a whole lot about

Transformers lore, but I was more lost with who

the antagonist was. I like Lockdown. I liked

him, too. I'm just not familiar with him from

the show, which, as I've also said before, I

have zero nostalgic baggage for the show. There

was something nice about having an antagonist

that didn't have Anything to do with the Autobots

and didn't really have anything and it had nothing

to do with the Decepticons He wasn't affiliated

with either side Didn't give a crap about them,

but the larger picture. Yeah, that is canon like

that is in the In the cartoon like the creators

of the Transformers Yeah, the creators are in

the cartoon, okay, I'm trying to remember what

they're called and I don't remember off the top

of my head I'm sure Joe screaming at the podcast

right now if you listen to the podcast let's

be honest we know he doesn't listen to the podcast

yeah I know Sean does because he's a douche and

he has no life I'm only saying that because it's

Sean everybody else I love everybody else who's

listening I love you Sean you're a piece of shit

you should hear about the things he says about

you guys when he's not recording it's fine it's

probably mostly true Probably. So did you like

it? Because I know you are a Transformers fan.

I always have always kind of been. I spent three

days racking my brain for something I disliked

about the movie and I really couldn't find anything.

And I don't like Mark Wahlberg. And I was like

the Wahlberg way. And I think my big thing about

the movie was. It seemed comedically, completely

toned down. Um, because Witwicky's parents weren't

there, which were always over the top. And Sam

Witwicky wasn't there, who was also just, I mean,

the only thing he was really good at was screaming

optimists. Just like, Wahlberg seemed like a

way more grounded character. All the comedic

actors felt not completely blown out of proportion

and ridiculous. TJ Miller was good. I liked him.

He seemed proportionate to his role. Tom Lennon

as the assistant to the president also seemed

very proportionate. He seemed very quirky, but

he wasn't ridiculous quirky. And Stanley Tucci

is just fantastic. Oh, you can't say anything

bad about the guy. Stanley Tucci was playing

Stanley Tucci, and that was awesome. I'll take

it. It's kind of like when you put Kevin Spacey

in something, you just want him to be him. That's

the same thing. What I like about Tucci is you

put him in, you let him do his thing and he just

goes and he makes it entertaining. It seemed

to me that the casting was much more On par this

time, especially then it's been in any of the

movies. I think for me Hound being played by

John Goodman just like for some reason that the

whole Character was way more interesting than

any of the other Autobots they've ever had to

me and more entertaining and I enjoyed the things

that he had to say and I think he had more lines

in the movie than any of the Autobots combined

because it seemed like Hound was always talking.

Yeah, didn't Bumblebee get his voice back at

the end of the third one? Dude, I'm just done

with Bumblebee. Oh, I'm just asking. Like, I'm

trying to remember for like continuity's sake.

Yeah, I thought that he was getting it at like

the end of the first one. Yeah. It's gonna get

bad. It just seems ridiculous to me of the...

It's like a trick that they just don't know how

to undo or don't want to undo. I'm also like

a big, big fan of continuity. Love me some continuity.

This is not the place to look for continuity.

No, but I wish there would have been some freaking

nod to why Bumblebee's not with Witwicky anymore.

Just something. We don't talk about that time

in his life anymore. No, I was I was pleasantly

surprised. Yeah, I liked it. It did feel long

to me, though. It did feel long, but it also

felt like it was weird to me because it felt

like they spent all this time with. Wahlberg

and I'm sorry. Yeager and all of his family and

really kind of building that background story

and establishing things for him and making him

likeable. Um, which I thought, I don't know.

Like there were so many things that in this movie,

I feel like just they spent time unfurling the

storyline instead of just throwing everything

in your face. Now, does the storyline make sense?

Not overly it seems I think the human storyline

makes less sense than the transformer story Yeah,

I think there's a lot of things that are going

on that are I I think it's to me. I think it's

almost Compared to the other movies and compared

to How I was expecting to be disappointed. I

think that's more so why I enjoyed the movies

because it was Way better than I thought it was

gonna be Mostly because I went in with really,

really low expectations. I remember you weren't

a fan of the first time you saw Grimlock. No.

And I kind of stopped watching previews leading

up to the movie because I was just like, I'm

at a point where I'd just rather be surprised.

Were you OK with the Dinobots in the movie? I

liked the Dinobots in the movie. I thought they

could have been. The fact that you got to wait

two hours and 10 minutes before. Dino bots even

show up I I have issues with movies that Mark

it so heavy on something that happens in like

last eighth of the movie But that's we're like,

that's how they got butts in the seats. They're

like, that's a big thing There's Dino bots showed

the Dino bots a ton in the preview and then you

sit through two hours and ten minutes and then

they show up and it's like yeah it's it's one

of those things that i'm trusting i don't know

every single time you think somebody's coming

back for the next movie they just scrap all the

characters from the previous movie and you just

never hear from them again side note real quick

we can keep talking about transformers if you

want but okay we don't talk about transformers

but i was actually thinking uh today for some

reason it just popped into my head Regardless

of what you think about the movie or not. I think

the first time we're gonna see a trailer for

Batman v Superman is The Hobbit in December It

seems like an awful long time before Wait, that

may be Superman. Is it 2016? Yeah Why would you

even show a preview? Because you need to get

people to go see you need a reason for the people

to go see The Hobbit Don't think there's I don't

think there's a reason to go see the Harvard

until the directors cut comes out on blue It's

the same reason that they put the episode one

trailer on meet Joe black Or the reason why they

put the animatrix on the front of a dreamcatcher

They put one animatrix on the front of dreamcatcher.

Yep, the good one The one that was the one that

was done by Final Fantasy Studio? Yeah, but I

don't know if it's the best one in the Animatrix.

I liked it. I liked it. I just don't think it's

the best one in the Animatrix. Okay, we stopped

talking about games. It's okay. Last time we

didn't talk about games until way into it and

this time we started talking about games and

now we're getting way away from it. It's fine.

If you want to get it even further away from

it, I could talk about, you know... The new issue

of all new x -men and how sweet that was now.

Let's not do that I want to take a picture of

the last page and send it to you because badass

shot of x23 ready to kill somebody Are you sure

about that if she does I will start reading it

again Okay, and if you lie to me, then I'll kill

you No guarantees we'll find out next month.

Oh And anybody who's out there that's a Marvel

fan and is sick of getting burnt by you know,

the summer crossover events Totally read original

sin completely worth it Four issues in and I

have more enthralled in with this summer crossover

event that I've been with anything since Civil

War It's fine right up until scarlet witch shows

up at the end and says no more original sin Yeah,

stop. That's not gonna happen. It's happened

twice. It's not gonna happen this time That's

what you think The fact that they killed fury

and that issue too This is scarlet witch dead

cuz that's all that matters in this equation

No, see scarlet which isn't even in the not yet

She won't be. She'll show up in the last panel

and just say no more original sin and it will

all be over. This book is really good. All's

I gotta say is if you get an opportunity to go

pick up original sin if you're not reading it

right now, buy it. It's awesome. If you like

comics and you like things that are fun, you

should buy it. Unless you're one of those DC

comic readers, then you probably don't like fun

and you like, you know. Then why are they, if

you're a DC comics listener, why are you listening

to our show? That's a really good point because

we kind of poop all over DC Comics over here

Like the rest of these guys on this network I've

got I've really have nothing else like video

game wise to talk about I just kind of want to

talk about like just spitball some Ideas like

put some ideas in the listeners ears about what?

You know We could do for off the cuff and see

if they'd be interested in said thing Off the

cuff like I I'd be really intrigued about doing

Game videos and putting them on YouTube. Yeah,

so much work or maybe like arranging Or have

more of a steady schedule or twitch That's what

I was yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Maybe

like one night a week because I Well, it's not

ideal right now. I can finagle it so that we

could be in a Skype chat And I can pump the Skype

chat into twitch I was just bummed out by twitching.

My first twitch stream sucked. No one watched.

You popped in and then left. And then I was making

comments about the game. Yeah. Switched to the

alpha of Destiny and Mike was the only one that

showed up. But yeah, maybe we could do more regular

twitch streams on the off the cuff channel. would

you guys if we were to do funny gameplay videos

like and it wouldn't be like regularly maybe

like once in a blue moon would you guys check

those out um just kind of think of things of

other i mean because obviously video games is

a heavily visual medium um short of written things

for the website which none of us have time to

do uh i try i tried to do a written review and

i submitted it to you and then he said meh Then

you never submit as the geek ass. So anyways

since none of us have my dreams Crush my writing

review dreams. Are you done? No, cuz you you

pooped all over it and now you're saying we don't

have time for it when I've done them before and

you're just like meh Dream killer Done Yep, okay

What's the opposite of Superman's symbol for

the opposite of hope because that's what should

be on your chest Okay now I'm done Short episode

this week Anyways, yeah, I'm just we're just

putting feels out there feels feelers Out there

to see what you know, the listeners want we know

you guys like the offseason stuff and I've got

a fix for that coming We'll try and keep the

gaming stuff coming as well I'll try to actually

play some games this week as long as you know

Certain online services are actually functional.

This is true. That was really chaps my ass. I

Haven't put my Xbox live card in this since I

bought it. I bought it Two months ago. Hey, we

could go play right now haven't touched it. I

put it in today and Then it doesn't work. It's

like Microsoft's just Pissing and shitting all

over me and this show and go play Titanfall right

now Finally spend money on my Xbox one and then

they crap on there Yeah, we can end the show.

I got about a half an hour All right, let us

know what you guys want to hear like in the future

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