M.A.S.K.E.D. M.A.Y.H.E.M.
Gate of Darkness, The Manakara Giant, and Raiders of the Orient Express Review

About this Episode
The End Hello and welcome to Masked Mayhem. We
have finally reached the 25th episode. Podcast
is over. No, we still have five more to go after
this, but I am one of your hosts, TMJ1Mike. Joining
me is Tune Master Tim. Hello Mike and listeners.
You know, you hoped the last three episodes of
a series through the last couple episodes of
a series, they would go out with a bang instead
of a whimper. Sadly, not the case with Mask.
Definitely, but you know what at least they've
been consistent throughout the series Consistently
bad yeah, yeah Because you have those series
that you know people be like oh, yeah You know
that was great when it first started the first
couple seasons are good, and then it trails off
after that No mask was consistently bad the entire
season. I mean Mask has 75 episodes And I know
people are gonna hate me for comparing it to
this. Mask has 75 episodes. Transformers has
98 episodes. I can at least count 50 of those
98 episodes being ones that I actually like.
I don't know which 50 of the 98 they are. I know,
I remember, you know, some episodes that I do
really love, but it's like 75 % of Transformers
G1 is good. There are a lot of bad episodes,
but 75 % is good in mask Yeah, oh I agree it's
probably I hate to say this, but it's probably
96 % bad and 4 % good. I really hate to say that.
And I'm just counting the first season. I don't
even remember the racing season, hence why we're
going to be doing it. But out of the first 65
episodes, 96 % of them I did not like. 4 % of
them I did. Just oh Right. I mean that there
are a few of them and we'll get into this when
we do the recap I'm sure but you know, there
are a few that stand above the rest, but you
know That's that's not really saying much. They're
not standing very tall above the others. There's
a few things like I remember when we got a little
bit of backstory on on Matt and Miles, and there
was the issue with his brother, and then there
was like a story that involved a little bit of
history about his father, you know, so some things
like that that, you know, I think were some highlights
in the first season, but overall it's just kind
of the same plot. Yeah, just scrolling up, and
I know we're not to the recap yet, but I'm just
going to say this here now, just scrolling up
to the very beginning of the episode list here.
uh... highway to tear again the death stone it
was the first episode i still like the first
episode uh... highway to tear video venom uh...
let's see here assault on liberty uh... and the
which what was it it was uh... the counterclockwise
caper so those are probably be my top picks out
of the entire season the rest are hit and very
much miss yeah um but we are here today to talk
about the final three episodes of mask season
one we are going to get to the gate of darkness
after this i thought the festival lasted till
sunset it turned out to be a limited engagement
You should have seen it, Dad. A king cobra followed
this floating flute and scared everybody. And
Scott climbed a rope that went straight up in
the air. Wait a minute. Floating flutes? Running
cobras? Alex? Well, not that it makes any sense,
but a fake here somehow did the genuine Indian
rope trick. At the same moment, a flute went
winging through the air, luring a cobra from
the festival. Then as soon as the cobra left,
the rope I was climbing went limp. Sometimes
the eye does not behold the truth. I think I
can still catch the curtain call, and maybe Mr.
Subas can help. Alright, first up is the Gate
of Darkness, venom of Daxe Cobra, whose hood
shows the way through a maze that leads to the
treasure in the Himalayan Mountains. Just another
fucking tree. This is kind of like my old quote
from TFG1 Podcast. Just a bunch of fucking repaints.
That's all these damn episodes are now. Just
a bunch of fucking treasure hunts. Ugh. God.
Yep. Yep. Absolutely. I think the rope trick
was cool until we found out what the hell was
actually powering it that, you know, I thought
that was kind of funny. Yeah, I did I did too
I thought okay Well, that's kind of neat, but
then they find out that it's basically like this
There's this air underneath it or something blowing
it and it's a mechanical thing yeah, so it's
some machine and so that kind of took the wind
out of the sails and It's your standard mask
plot Venom is trying to go get something mask
has to stop them There's nothing in this plot
that is any different from any of the other episodes
we've talked about since we've started doing
this podcast again. Yeah, it really isn't. I
like the title of the episode. I thought it would
be something a little different, maybe going
into it, Gate of Darkness. But yeah, this turns
into your typical treasure hunt. We find out
that there's a priceless artifact, so we know
Venom's going to be after that. And this is basically
an ivory throne. Yeah, it's an ivory toilet ladies
and gentlemen is what it is All right, we are
gonna get to the high beams after this You're
driving me nuts with this thing snakes are deaf
anyway, you idiot they are Sorry, I won't do
it anymore I got it! I drew it! Okay Rembrandt,
I hear ya! Now let's move it! Turning on the
high beams. Uh, they're not very high. The only
thing that was really cool about this one for
me is, hey look, Buddy and Brad are back, finally!
Yay! Yeah. And, you know, I just happened, like,
in this episode it really occurred to me that
there are a lot of masked team members that have
a first name that starts with a B. Because we
have Bruce Brad and buddy in this one. Yeah What
else did you like about this one anything Well,
you talked about the team members that I did
like that, you know We get to see what they're
doing when they're called up and you know, they've
gotten less interesting over time They've kind
of basically used some of the same Backstory
events then this one we get buddy and kind of
a humorous scene where he is working on somebody's
tire and The guy's standing there and you know,
he's filling up the tire with air and then all
of a sudden he gets called so he just takes off
and The tire just keeps getting bigger and bigger
and finally the guy's like I got to get out of
here, too And then it explodes It's good it's
not yeah, it's not the same as you know, the
pizza place with dusty it just isn't the same
anymore No, and it's so funny. I mean I was just
thinking about you know when they show these
The thing the things that the people are doing
when they're getting called up, and you know
they immediately drop Whatever they're doing
and take off when you know if they give it like
three to five seconds They could wrap up. Whatever's
going on So they kind of you know he kind of
left a dangerous situation there where this guy
could have been extremely hurt or killed Yeah
The other thing I did like about this one, there
was a decent battle scene at the end of the episode.
So that elevated this one a little bit. But another
thing I really thought was good in this one was
Miles' frustration with his goons. And I know
we've talked about this in some of the past episodes.
But in this one, he makes a joke about finding
the map by walking into a gas station and asking
for a map to the Gate of Darkness. So I thought
that was pretty funny. And then there's another
incident where he is talking with Dagger, and
Dagger says something like, who turned out the
lights? And then Miles replies with something
like, your lights have been out since you were
born, idiot. So again, Miles mayhem. He's a true
leader. Yeah, really. Yeah. You know, I like
the comedy amongst the villains, I really do,
but if you can't give me an interesting enough
story in 22 minutes, I mean, the 7D gives me
two interesting stories in 22 minutes on the
Disney Channel. You know, He -Man, Thundercats,
Voltron, they're all, you know, If you don't
count the commercials, they're all 22 minute
episodes. They all give me interesting stories.
Sure, there are plenty of things that Kevin and
I and even you when you comment on them on the
post that we do or don't agree with each other
on as far as whether things are good or bad in
He -Man, but at least there's actually things
to talk about with the plot of an episode that
lasts 20 to 23 minutes. And I'm sorry, but Mask
just doesn't have it. I don't think, and I've
said this before in the show, I don't think these
people cared. I really, I'm not talking about
the voice actors, I'm talking about the people
in charge of doing the show, the producers, the
directors. I honestly don't think these people
cared. And, you know. Was watching I'll talk
about this now because we we're at the end of
season one here and on the end on the last disc
of season one The final sixth disc of volume
2 and the DVD set from shout factory It has a
special feature where it's Saturday crusader
Saturday morning crusaders unite and it's all
these Supposed to mask fans you're getting together.
There's like comedians and I don't even know
half. I've never heard of any of these people
I've never seen them anywhere talking about this
and They're all taught and don't get me wrong.
I like that Brian Ward and shout factory got
you know with these people, but it's like They're
like, oh well mask is basically a big, you know
middle finger to Transformers and GI Joe because
mask is so much cooler because it combines those
two shows a blah blah blah Yeah, sure. The concept
is cool But story execution sucks You know, it's
like, you know, this feature, I don't even know
how long it is. It's probably, I don't know,
five, 10 minutes, and they just keep going on
and on. Oh, no, it's like 20 minutes. Oh, is
it really? Because I did watch that today, and
I stopped. I, like, you know, checked to see
how long it was before I even proceeded with
watching it. Yeah. You know, a few minutes into
it, I was thinking, OK, this is kind of worthless.
But then it did have some humorous moments. But
it was kind of funny because, yeah, they did
say that. There was somebody saying, oh, yeah,
it's a mesh of GI Joe and Transformers. So it
was so much better. It was so much cooler. And
I don't know if that was meant to be facetious
or if he was, you know, if he'd actually seen
the show recently. But there were some things
they did agree with us on, which I thought was
good to see as well. Yeah, so let's get to the
low beams for the gate of darkness It was nice
of the India Department of Records to let us
borrow this Yes, if we can combine our modern
technology with the ancient info on that map
Maybe we'll come up with the location of the
gate all right getting to the low beams honestly
other than buddy and brad being back there and
a few funny lines between miles and the rest
of venom there's not much here and at the end
there are way too many puns way too many this
is just i don't know it's it's more of like we're
at the end of the season i wanted something more
they didn't give it to me and this is if this
episode was in the middle of the season it would
probably get a slightly average maybe slightly
below average score from me but at the same time
it's like we're coming to the conclusion of the
season here people do something and they didn't
right what about you yeah i kind of feel that
way and i kind of felt that way with the episode
we'll be talking about next as it started off
different i thought okay we're going to be getting
something different here it's almost like you
know, Stan Lee deciding to put Spider -Man in
Amazing Fantasy because the book's gonna be canceled
anyway, so what the heck? And I thought, well,
maybe somebody, you know, somebody's taking a
chance, or, you know, the story editor or something
said, okay, fine, this is breaking the mold,
but just go ahead and run with it. And we would
get something different, but no. And that's exactly
what you're talking about with this episode.
It's something that we've seen so many times
at this point that have we seen this early on?
in the series when I've been like, okay, not
too bad. Like you said, maybe about average or
so. But at this point, we're just so frustrated
with these recycled plots. And one of my low
beams here is something I mentioned I think in
our last episode is the voice acting and just
how flat it is. We have this moment, okay, where...
Matt is driving rhino into the village. You know
they're all hyped up They're ready to go and
he runs over these spikes that one of the Indian
guys was sitting on and so it flattens rhinos
tires rhino flips over onto its side driver side
down and lands on top of these hot coals and
Then Matt just calmly asked if everyone is all
right It seems like you know the way he delivers
that line. There's no impending danger even the
animation Doesn't give us any sense that there's
any real danger here But obviously there is and
you know smoke starts filling the cab of Rhino
But again, you know, we cut we cut to the commercial.
We you know, we feel like there's something Dangerous
here, you know, our team's in danger and we need
to get You know, we need we need to have some
concern for what's going on. But the the voice
acting is just so flat and So then I am I paid
attention to the credits after the episode was
over, and just picked out who was doing the voice
direction. And it's Stu Rosen and Marcia Goodman.
And so then I looked them up. Now we're kind
of getting, you know, off topic. I think we need
to kind of talk about this for a minute. I mean,
I think this is interesting. So, Stu Rosen, he
also was a casting director for Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles. So I give him some credit there,
so he went on to do some other good stuff. And
he worked on other shows like, let's see, Captain
N, The Game Master, Defenders of the Earth, and
Fraggle Rock. And I think that, you know, that's
a pretty good resume. I think those are some
pretty decent shows. I mean, I wasn't a big fan
of the Captain N. But, you know, I mean, he also
worked on My Little Pony, the movie. I mean,
those are well -renowned, well -known franchises
from the 80s. And then Marcia Goodman, she was
also known for her work on the real Ghostbusters
and Captain Planet and the Planeteers, Adventures
of Sonic the Hedgehog. So it's not like, you
know, these were just unknowns in the industry.
I mean, maybe this was one of their first series,
because I think Mask was 1985. Yeah, 1985 and
so some of these other shows came later So, you
know, maybe they were just cutting their teeth
on mask and then went on to do better things
But yeah, but it was just interesting cuz I know
like, you know We've what we've talked about
the writers before and how we didn't recognize
the writing team Except for well except for Chuck
Laurie. Yeah Just bad very very very bad so all
right we are gonna move on to the next episode
up next is the mana cara giant okay Venom uses
a magnet weapon to crash ships into rocky beaches.
Local natives believe it is caused by an ancient
curse until mass discovers otherwise. Dun dun
dun. So this one had me hooked. Yeah it did.
Yeah it actually did. In the very beginning I
thought they did an excellent job with that scene
with the ship. And all the sailors on there are
panicking. We hear this voice coming from the
island, and the ship's being pulled in, so they
all have to abandon ship. I thought that was
done very well. And as I was alluding to in our
discussion about the previous episode, I thought,
OK, they're taking a chance here. They're going
to do something different. Let's hope to God
that Venom isn't behind this. And we have some
sort of supernatural element here. And it's just
going to be Matt and mask members trying to figure
out what the mystery is. And I wish they would
have done that rather than always making Venom
being behind it and chasing after some treasure
or some artifact or something. You know, it's
kind of like with other series, you mentioned
He -Man before. And or even thundercats, you
know Mumra wasn't behind everything that was
going on on Thundera in every episode and and
neither were the the the mutants or or You know
are the main bad guys. They would bring in new
bad guys Same thing with he man, you know, it
wasn't always Skeletor or you know, he is his
evil army You know, they they tried to branch
out and do other things so it wasn't It wasn't
boring, you know, it had some new elements to
it Yeah, see the thing with with human investors
universe that I found out is that they don't
use the vitally Here's here's the difference
between mask and human message universe from
83 Mask uses venom too often and doesn't give
us enough You know who else could it be outside
of them and then human masters universe they
use too many one -shot villains and not enough
of Skeletor and his evil warriors. So it's kind
of a flip sides of the same coin. And it's like,
oh, come on. With this one, this one is, out
of the final three, this one's probably the best
one, honestly. Well, for me, it started off real
strong, but it quickly became less and less interesting.
So for me, this one is not going to be my favorite
of the week, but I think it did have some good
moments. It's not, well, to me, because it had
such promise in the beginning and then failed
to deliver, I was very disappointed. I think
for me what the plot is out of the three that
we have. for the final three this is probably
the best written plot out of the three of them
at least the most interesting plot yeah sure
it kind of goes downhill one i mean that's like
you know somebody asking a magician how did you
do that and he shows them and then it just becomes
less mystifying on how he does his trick it's
the same thing here you know once you find out
that oh the machine did the rope and blah blah
blah and whatever else and and the the flute
is magnetized and yeah You know once you find
that stuff. Oh, yeah sure it kind of goes downhill
from there, but the overall you know the episode
plot on on a whole here is a hell of a lot better
than What we've had recently yeah the plot itself.
I agree. I like that it again It's one of those
episodes where it takes us a while to get things
moving I mean, we have this we have this scene
in the very beginning that opens up the episode
that has some pending danger in this mystery.
And then, you know, we spend probably, I mean,
I would say probably the next 10 minutes or better.
Just wandering around and, you know, T -Bob thinking
everything is the Manicara giant. And I mean,
there were so many times that that he called
out, it's the Manicara, it's the Manicara. This
is like, shut up, you know, let's Let's move
on already. There were too many attempts at humor
that, you know, I think they could have just
been skipped and we could have had a much tighter
story. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So let's
get to the high beams. Legend says when it gets
angry, nothing is safe that gets in its path.
The pilot told me this Manakara giant was responsible
for all these accidents. There's no logical explanation,
Matt. A monsoon, for instance, that explains
what pulled the freighter ashore. Then it must
have been the giant. Wow, I wish I could have
been there. Well, I don't. One giant step and
I'd be just another pile of scrap metal. But,
Stephen, your freighters have used that straight
for years to transport cargo. Why did Manakara
dip his fingers into this one? I don't know,
Matt. But this platinum shipment was one of the
biggest we've ever transported. And I've got
an even bigger shipment of platinum that must
go through. My entire business holdings are at
stake. I need your help. Hmm. I've got some friends
who might be interested in checking into this.
I'll give them a call. Thanks, Matt. I'll arrange
for them to stay in a house on the island. Don't
worry. We'll get to the bottom of those footprints,
Stephen. Alright, turning on the high beams.
Well, for the first time ever, Scott actually
shows emotion and sadness for T -Bob when he's
going to get whisked away. It only took them
63 episodes to get to this point. Because Scott
does look like he's about to cry when T -Bob
gets whisked away by the water. Yeah, that is
true. He was torn up about it. Yeah, so this
isn't a treasure hunt episode. This is a platinum
theft episode so Since it's not actually a treasure
hunt is probably gonna get a much higher score
for me Since it wasn't that boring because every
at this point I never want to see another treasure
hunt plot ever again unless it's finally unless
they finally finally release national treasure
3 Fair enough What about you? What did you like
about this one? It was fitting that Venom's own
magnetic machine was what defeated them in the
end. I did like that because Scott is at the
wheel basically of this magnetic machine and
uses it to pull in Venom's vehicles which explode
and then... It's kind of funny. There's a scene
after the explosion where Miles and Vanessa are
flying through the air and Miles is like, you
know, I'll get you next time. And Vanessa is
just kind of like basically laying on her side
with her arm under her head and just like, you
know, with frustration saying, yeah, this is,
you know, this is going nowhere. So I did like
that. And then. I've got a high beam here. That's
also going to have somewhat of a low beam and
that is we've talked about T Bob and how he often
gets treated as being a human being And Scott
actually reminds T Bob. He's not human He's a
robot. He's a robot because T Bob is concerned
that the island natives may be cannibals and
T Bob says you have nothing to or Scott says
you have nothing to worry about T Bob You're
a robot But then he contradicts himself later,
which is going to be in the low beams. Yep. So
let's get to the low beams after this. I still
don't understand why you made us move the machine
from the other island. Foolish female. Only the
local people were fooled. That's why we moved
the machine before investigators came. Now continue
the test. I want to make sure the machine wasn't
damaged in the move. Love to. Here comes our
bait, now! Alright! Working, it's working! Got
it off, Vanessa! For the low beams, take it away,
sir. Well, I thought for sure you would have
this in your low beams, and maybe you do, but
basically mine is kind of a big one. I've already
kind of alluded to it, but... Scott told T Bob
that he is a robot. He is not human but then
T Bob is underwater and Scott is asking mad if
T Bob can hold his breath that long Why? Why
did you do this to us? You just showed you know
some some reason here and I'm so frustrated with
this show Ladies and gentlemen you now see why
and you hear why optimus solo did not want to
come back to this podcast Because it you know
I've said this before as much as you know I enjoy
working with Tim on this show It still cannot
compare to how bad this show is The only thing
I wrote down because this was such a I'm gonna
make this joke. It's such a breast of fresh air
compared to the last episode. The only thing
I wrote down that I complained about was fire
insurance. Really? That's the PSA? Fire insurance?
Why is it that there are so many fire safety,
fire -related PSAs in this series? I don't know.
I mean, they can't even come up with good ideas
for PSAs. Nope. Not at all. I can watch a marathon
of GI Joe PSAs on the Rhino release of the GI
Joe movie. There's maybe like 23 or 20 some GI
Joe PSAs as a special feature just lined up back
to back. Right. And I watched those and I thought
they were all good. They didn't tell the same.
They didn't have the same public message. They
were entertaining they were fun But these these
PSA's They're just awful yeah, most of them anyway
and it's so funny because Not all of the Transformers
episodes that I remember not all of them ended
on a PSA They just ended they just went front.
You know they closed out. It wasn't a sharp ending
like Couple of things but it was you know, they
they closed out then they went to credits and
not often Unless it was after the credits before
the next show came on did the PSA's happen? And
this is something that is strange with certain
80s properties Transformers has them but they
don't have them on every single episode At first
I didn't think gem was gonna have PSA's. Yeah,
it takes until like the 12th or 13th episode
out of 65 for Jim to start incorporating PSAs
at the end of its show and Mask has a PSA after
almost every single 65 episodes and none Mask
should have done what He -Man did they made the
PSAs Relevant to what happened in the episode.
Yeah. Well, I think that with He -Man and the
Masters of the Universe they Wrote the plot around.
I mean they often seem like they developed the
plot around an idea. They wanted to deliver in
the PSA You know, they did they didn't work backwards.
They worked forwards and I said, okay, we're
gonna have this episode be about You know respect
for your elders And so, you know, they would
have an episode that was interesting and had
that element in the episode and then they could
talk about that in the PSA. And they didn't always
do that. I mean, you know, I both know that,
you know, not every episode had that PSA that
tied in directly to what had happened in the
story, but there were a lot of them that were.
And M .A .S .K. is just tacked on. Yep. Pretty
much. Absolutely. So, I think we are going to
get to the final episode of the day, final episode
of season one, after this. wants trouble to escape
the allies. Wow! Lots of famous people traveled
on the Orient Express. Spies, kings, and criminals.
But you, T -Bomb, are our first robot. I am?
How about that? I'm Scott's first robot, too.
It must have been exciting being on a train with
all kinds of criminals. If that's what you want,
just hop on the subway. Thanks for giving us
the tool. Scott's getting a real kick out of
it. It is my pleasure to share the mystery and
intrigue of the Orient Express with such honored
guests. All right, final episode of season one,
episode 65, Raiders of the Orient Express. Where
is Indiana Jones when you really need him? Yeah,
this is what like the second episode recently
where they've had raiders of something I mean
as the title Treasure Scarlet Empress incident
in Istanbul stone trees plunder of glowworm grotto,
okay, maybe not I thought we had Raiders of something
in the title No, I'm all the way back up to episode
44 and there's no Raiders. So anyway, Raiders
of the Lost Orient or Raiders of the Orient Express,
Venom infiltrates the Orient Express train looking
for clues to Mad King Ludwig's treasures. I didn't
know Koopa's kid was in this series. Let alone
being a king. All right, so this is the final
episode of the series or well of season one I
should say yeah It's better than The first episode
at least sure it is it sure it is still a treasure
hunt episode, but it's it's better than Than
the first one that we talked about today. I don't
know I I don't know if it's that by the time
I get to the third episode Sometimes I am just
like I don't care anymore But I just found this
one so boring I really did Yeah, I I thought
it was interesting At least at first Liked how
venom could never get into the thing The treasure
because they couldn't figure out the clocks Overall
as a season finale episode This is just standard
that there's no cliffhanger. There's no nothing
especially with Coming back with only ten new
episodes for the racing series um they should
have done a better job with this and done some
sort of continuity or some some sort of story
with matt's brother or with how matt tracker
and miles mayhem came up with the technology
for the masks and they just should have done
something a little differently i don't dislike
this episode on a whole by itself but as as a
season finale episode this sucks Yeah, I absolutely
agree. I would like to have seen them go back
to some of those things that you were talking
about. You know, again, hit on the backstory
between Miles and Matt, you know, what happened
there and try to try to, you know, tell more
backstory or or wrap things up in some way. I
mean, even though they have the second season
coming up, which I'm not sure how much different
it's going to be from the first, I'm hoping that
it takes somewhat of a different direction. But
it would have been nice to see something like
that, because we talked about this when we were
discussing the last episode, the Manicara giant,
that special feature at the end of the last disc
on volume two. And again, they talk about this
history with Matt Tracker and Miles Mayhem. And
I guess one of the guys on that special said
that there was a comic book included with Rhino.
And it told the backstory, which actually was
kind of a dark and violent backstory between
Miles Mayhem and Matt Tracker. During this incident
of them having this falling out and miles wanting
to take the technology and steal it his brother
got killed, right? Yeah, Matt's brother. Yeah,
that's brother got killed You know pretty dark
material for for a cartoon back in the 80s But
it would have been nice if they could have at
least Done something with that. I mean, I think
there's a lot of story there that you could tell
I mean certainly over the course of 65 episodes.
We haven't really delved into that very much
So yeah, it would have been nice to have seen
that come back around in this last episode of
the first season Absolutely Yeah, I mean this
is a nice thing I Mean it's an interesting It's
this episode is interesting, but at the same
time it's still this is more middle of the road
than then the first episode is Because you know,
this is basically a richie rich plot Seriously,
it's basically a richie rich plot where the person's
treasure isn't an actual tray or okay It's a
Casper the friendly ghost plot. I mean, you know,
it's Venom looks for this treasure of this Mad
King Ludwig and turns out the treasure that he
has is a Model train set of the Oriental Express
because he loved riding the train all the time
So there's like, you know it every time I watch
this before recording I'm like, when's stinky
fatso and stretch gonna show up or something?
It's like, seriously? So, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, we've been down this road before. I mean,
if it's miles after some great treasure and it
just turns out to be its steam that was so valuable
during the ice age, that was the treasure. Or
this hidden money that... you know, is hidden
around the Washington Monument, and it turns
out it's old Confederate money, so it's worth
nothing. It's under a giant W. But yeah, I mean...
Yeah, I dunno. Alright, let's get to the high
beams if there are any after this. Interesting.
Back in the 1800s, they were the private quarters
of King Ludwig. Mad King Ludwig. He slept in
an empty swimming pool. He threw lavish parties
for ducks, built crazy gigantic locks. He was
a regular loony. Looks like he was a regular
passenger too. But of course, he was crazy about
the Orient Express. He even built a castle along
its route so he could travel on the train several
times a year. It's said he hid a fabulous treasure
somewhere in his castle, but no one even knows
what it is. Hmm. Mad King Ludwig's castle. Where's
it located? You are fortunate. It is in Zermatt.
Our next stop... Alright, time for the high beams.
This is really the episode where they really
destroyed almost all the vehicles except Switchblade.
Jackhammer gets killed, uh... Manta gets killed.
Yeah, even piranha piranha gets killed Like goes
off a cliff and the motorcycle part slams ran
into a cliff and explodes explodes. Yeah Jackhammer
basically gets cut in half Kind of reminds me
of 2007 you want a piece of me? No, I want to
and Megatron rips jazz in half so yeah they really
I'll say this for this episode even though the
plot isn't that great at least for leaving it
on a cliffhanger as far as what the vehicles
are gonna do for the second season who knows
I mean normally when the mask or the venom vehicles
have been destroyed before they just kind of
come back brand new like hey we repaired them
off screen Um, so yeah, I'm at this point. I
have no idea what is, I don't, I've said this
before. I don't ever really remember seeing the
racing series season. So that's going to be totally
fresh and new for me. Hopefully it's just not
the same recycled plots. Um, and then, Hey, a
PSA that actually aligns with the episode since
it's, you know, train related. So, so that's
good. What about you for high beams? There was
some humor here when deep Bob and Scott suspect
that one of the passengers is miles mayhem in
disguise Because we'd seen that Vanessa was in
disguise as this countess or something on the
train Yep So I thought that that actually worked
out real well and provided for a very humorous
scene because I thought it was going to be miles
It looked just like him, but it wasn't him. So
yeah, you know, they're they're doing the The
Bugs Bunny gag or whatever where he was trying
to like pull his mustache off and stuff Throw
him water on him. So it's pretty funny And then
there was this other scene where Matt makes a
joke about being cut from the team Yeah, and
Everybody is laughing just hysterically. They're
so boisterous. I was it just became comical just
laughing You know how hard they were laughing
at that joke. I mean, it's like It just got louder
and just just crazier and it went on for a long
time Yeah, it went on for way too long Absolutely
way too damn long Yeah, at least it wasn't Scott
laughing along with them though at least it was
just Which, I don't even know where he went in
that scene, but... But yeah, I'm trying to think
what else did I like about this one. No? I think
that's it. I mean, I guess I guess I was hoping
the runaway train would have just, you know,
crashed somewhere and... Scott and T -Bot would
have ended up in the hospital or something, but
that'd be cruel for me to say that. Oh wait,
whoops, I already did. So I think we're gonna
get to the low beams after this. A hammer! All
that trouble for a crummy toy hammer! Hey, it's
not a waste! Maybe someday you'll get some toy
nails! Dagger? You've got more holes in your
head than two tons of Swiss cheese. I'll take
that! This toy is obviously a clue to Mad King
Ludwig's treasure! To your vehicles! Alright,
for the low beams, something about the Countess
looks familiar. Are you flucking kidding me?
He should know who Vanessa is. Really? He needs
the computer to tell him that? Yeah. It has her
mug shot right there on the computer screen and
they have to like peel back the hat and the clothes
to tell him This is Vanessa Warfield. Come on.
I know it's it's just so so ludicrous and then
Just another treasure hunt episode to end the
season no less What about you? What didn't you
like about this one? Some of the things I've
already mentioned, I didn't like that the real
treasure was the train set. I also didn't like
that, well, actually my biggest issue with this
episode is that it feels like it's trying too
hard to like build in all these layers because
we go through the trouble of Venom stealing the
doors from the Orient Express. And so we're thinking,
okay, well, why would they want the doors? What
is it with the doors? It's so important. And...
So then they cut the we find that venom cuts
the doors open just to find this little bitty
hammer and then they go to What was that the
mansion or something? Yeah, they go to Ludwig's
castle. Yeah, they go to the castle and they
Go to this room where there's all these all these
cuckoo clocks and they fit the arm into this
man on the cuckoo clock so then that produces
a sound that opens the door to a hidden room
and Then they go into the room, but they still
can't Get behind the panel that's inside the
room that leads to the treasure. So it's it's
just too many layers You know, it just became
too convoluted it was just it was just too much
they didn't need to go that far with it Yeah,
yeah I agree. I mean it's just I Think they're
trying to be Clever and write something with
you know multiple layers and and you know make
it interesting and and Maybe fun to follow or
maybe that maybe the kids will have fun trying
to figure out this mystery But in the end we
did we just want to see big battles and some
cool action and you know throw in some humor
You know, I just thought this was the most boring
episode of the week No, that first episode is
worse than this one for me. So we're going to
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Now back to Mask and Venom. We are back. So ratings
for the episode, the first episode, sir, what
are you going to give us? How many masks or how
many non masks? Yeah, a negative number. The
Gate of Darkness for me gets two masks. It was
enjoyable. I mean, it was kind of middle of the
road. I didn't mind some of the moments in that
one. I mean, it had some low beams that, you
know, I I didn't like the voice acting in this
one as I mentioned You know there was definitely
a moment of danger there. They could have they
could have done a better job of delivering those
lines Yeah, but yeah two masks for me it gets
a one just It's by far the worst out of the three
episodes for me I was expecting more than what
we got, as we said in the episode review. You
see a title called Gate of Darkness. You think
of something like, you know, Gozer the Demon
King coming to hunt the Ghostbusters or something.
You know, something interesting. And it just
wasn't interesting enough for me. What about
the second episode? Well, this was the one that
started off strong that I I had hoped that there
would be some Supernatural element to it and
we would get away from venom being behind everything
You know, maybe they would show up, but maybe
they wouldn't be behind it necessarily or after
some treasure or artifact But I you know It just
turned out to be so boring. It took so long to
get things moving after that initial scene. You
know, they're wandering around the island trying
to figure out what's causing the footprints and
everything. So I ended up losing interest in
it. I'm going to give it one mask. For me, this
was easily the best episode of the day. It was
the most interesting for me out of the three
of them. Liked all of the mysteries surrounding
How like was it really a sea monster and whatever
else I really dug that It's not great, but it's
not below average for me. So I'm gonna give it
three out of five masks Well, what about the
season one finale? Yeah, you can probably guess
I'm not going to rate this one very well either
Raiders of the Orient Express You know, I did
like a few things about it. You know, there is
that scene where T Bob and Scott are in the train
car and it's rolling down the hill. And so we
have all the mass team members team up and they,
you know, shoot the. I can't think what the name
of it is. Basically some sort of anchors or something
through the roof of the car and haul it off the
track so it doesn't go over the gorge. So that
was kind of a cool moment. And as you said, there
were some moments where the vehicles get destroyed.
But again, I just had this problem with it just
taking so long and just having so many layers
in there where they try to be clever and mysterious.
So I didn't like it. I found it boring. I'm going
to give it one mask. All right for me it's only
gonna get it to like I said if you would have
Done something a little bit more interesting
with the season finale. It would have been better
for me But sadly they didn't do that. So yeah,
I mean they could even have You know besides
telling more backstory about the main characters
or something they could have used some of the
newer characters again we basically got the The
the standard characters for both teams here Mm
-hmm. Yep All right. Well, that's gonna do it
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