M.A.S.K.E.D. M.A.Y.H.E.M.
The Incident in Istanbul, The Creeping Desert, and The Scarlet Empress Review

About this Episode
MAD CRUSADERS! WORKING OVERTIME! FIGHTING CRIME!
FIGHTING CRIME! SECRET RATERS! WHO WILL NEUTRALIZE!
TURN THIS DAY TO RIDE! AT THE FIGHT! THE TRACK
IS GONNA LEAVE A MISSION! don't start fires oh
well at least something's fighting today hello
and welcome to mass ma 'am this is episode 23
right i think oh god seven more to go yeah we're
back yeah we're back i'm df2 and mike and you
are tune master tim that's right We're getting
to a point in this series folks where the episodes
just they aren't bad. They're just boring. Yeah
Well some are bad well, yeah, but I mean like
not every single one of them is Like, oh my,
like, I don't think anything in this podcast
or next time around in episode 24, I don't think
anything enraged me as much as what enrage I
had in episode 21 with the friggin' Thunderhawk
and the seatbelt shit. So, at this point, I'm
just like, oh god. I honestly have no idea why
I like this cartoon as a kid. I have no clue.
Outside of the theme song I have The cartoon
I love the toys the toys were amazing, you know,
I'll say that again There's nothing wrong with
the mass toys, but the cartoon they needed better
writers They needed flint dilly. They needed
somebody. Yeah, I I see a lot of kids sitting
in front of the TV with their mask toys With
the with the TV on and it's there but for most
of the episode they're actually just playing
with their toys and then suddenly when there's
a battle scene with the vehicles you know their
attention perks up and you know they start watching
what's on tv but for the most part man yeah it's
just it's so hard to get through them and i think
one of the things that makes it so hard to watch
besides it being like these recycled plots is
that the voice acting is just so flat yeah you
know it really is i mean if you There was a particular
episode this week that I was watching and Matt
was delivering a line, but basically all the
characters do this. But it was just like, wow,
you know, I listened to that line and thought
it could have been delivered in such a different
way to have more punch to it and more life. And
any other kind of, you know, other shows would
have voice actors that would deliver those lines
in that manner rather than this is flat, monotone,
you know, Scott, hey, get out of there. You know,
I mean there's just no inflection at all And
I think that just exacerbates what's already
a very drab show Yep, pretty much All right,
we are going to get into the episodes today starting
off with an Incident in Istanbul take it away.
They might be Giants. Oh, no, wait They're not
at the museums, but they're not here either.
The car is abandoned. Maybe they get hungry too.
I'm afraid it's not as simple as that, T -Bot.
Maybe they had car trouble. Maybe, but we had
a planned route. I don't think Mement would have
left the car here unless... That's it! They switched
cars. This isn't the original armored car. What
do you mean, Dad? Come on, let's drop you two
at the hotel. Alright, thank you for that musical
selection. They might be giants. And first up
today is the incident in Istanbul, hence why
that song just played. Venom hijacks an armored
car in Istanbul, stealing Constantine's chess
set, which contains secrets to finding his golden
crown. Good night, everybody. plots what plot
Again, you know, we've said it since we've been
back on this podcast. We had this going against
this episode. I You know 15 Recycle recycle recite.
I guess if you want to look at mask in a positive
way, at least they're recycling Seriously This
plot is just another treasure hunt. I know I
sound like a broken record at this point, but
there is nothing in the overall plot of this
episode that is interesting at all, at least
to me. I don't know. What do you think of the
plot? Yeah, it's another treasure hunt. It has
this heist aspect to it, too, with the armored
car being hijacked, so... It was a little bit
different, but basically getting to the point
is, yes, we're after more treasure. Actually,
venom is after more treasure here. So it's just,
again, that recycled plot over and over. Put
in a little bit of A, a little bit of B, sprinkle
in some C, and you get D. And that's another
episode of Mask for you. One of the kind of cool
things in this one, Matt. focuses in on the lock
that they have on the back of the armored car
and Then later when you know, he's following
this armored car playing an escort And dagger
like, you know Gets in front of in front of Thunderhawk.
So Matt can't follow along Pretty soon. He loses
the truck and then later on they find a truck
But it's not the same one and he picks it out
because the lock on the back of the truck is
different. Yeah So that was so that was a you
know something Interesting that they did with
that Again, you know plot wise. Yeah, there's
still Nothing here the surprising and nothing
that we haven't seen before No, I mean it's just
It's very very standard and It's just not I don't
know I just Did you have any high beams? Because
if you don't, we're probably going to skip them.
I just have a few things. We get to see Surf
NT Bob again. Yeah. And he saves Scott in the
tunnel. And then, you know, in this one, they're
after this chest set. That's what Venom is after
inside the armored vehicle. That's what's being
escorted. And then they get these chess pieces
and they're inside a church that has this tile
floor. and has this checkerboard pattern, which,
you know, mimics what you'd see on a chess set.
And the chess pieces actually fit into these
holes on the floor, which, you know, opens up
the floor and allows them to get to this crown
that's hidden there. So I thought that using
those chess pieces in that way was kind of a
cool idea. So that was one of my high beams.
And then I think that the pacing in this episode
was better than in some of the more recent ones.
Yeah, I'll agree to that. And now we're gonna
get to the low beams. Oh my god. Secured. Proceed.
Select best agents for mission in Istanbul. Rendezvous
to Kapi Museum. Julio Lopez, occupation physician.
Vehicle code name Firefly. Aerial recon may be
essential. Calhoun burned. Occupation architect.
Vehicle code name Raven. Amphibious vehicle could
be valuable in port city of Istanbul. Gloria
Baker. Champion race driver. Black belt in Kung
Fu. Vehicle code name Shark. Vehicle adaptable
as submarine. Selection complete. none the worse
for wear from your driving, Vanessa. Now if Rex
can only remove it without breaking it after
all my work. Good thing I rigged that bridge
or you would have had nothing to drive. Good
thing Bruno set it off while you were feeding
your face at the cafe. Oh boy! It's almost like
Christmas! Tiger, take that stupid thing off!
Alright, for the low beams, I am so sick of Tracker's
bad parenting, allowing Scott to go off on his
own at the bazaar. No parent would let their
child go off in a very crowded marketplace like
that. I remember at one point, there was one
time I stepped away from my mom. We were at Faneuil
Hall in Boston, Massachusetts, and I got lost
for two hours. And Faneuil Hall is a big place.
So it's like, you know, worst cartoon dad ever.
Matt Tracker is even as much as I don't like
this show Matt Tracker is worse than Peter Griffin
and that's pretty bad worse than Peter Griffin
on Family Guy how so In every way at least Peter
Griffin takes some sort of interest in what his
children are doing. Yeah just as a parent Yeah,
yeah You know, we already mentioned crown of
Constantine yet another treasure hunt episode
boring Now, this is something, this might have
been an animation error, I don't know. They're
trying to get an answer from the computer about
which church to find out the location, and you
see the computer going back and forth, back and
forth like it's searching for the answer. All
of a sudden, while it's still doing that, you
hear Matt give the answer. How the hell did he
get the answer from the computer if we didn't
see anything? The parked car PSA That actually
happened to me a few times. Oh, yeah There was
one time my grandmother's house we She the the
very top of her driveway is a dead -end street,
but it's also a hill I was in my mom's Mazda
se5 back Oh, I don't know 89 99 or 10 years old
I guess And I let the emergency break go and
it went all the way down the hill. So, well,
I don't think it's a, I think they're reaching
with like, they're not even showing like, it's
not even Matt saying to Scott, you know, this,
this is a lesson you should learn. And they're
just coming up with, you know, commercial break
intros where it's like, Hey T -Bob, you shouldn't
do this. And God, the PSAs for this show are
the worst. Yeah, they're not done very well if
you look at other shows like the GI Joe PSA is
they're actually a lot more fun I have you know
you'd have maybe three or four kids doing something
and then you know they're about to do something
they shouldn't perhaps and then all of a sudden
then stuff's one of the GI Joe's and Explains
why they shouldn't be doing that or you know
Explain whatever safety messages there is but
this one is just like it's right there and they
usually go pretty quick They're not very lengthy
either Well, neither are the ones in G .I. Joe
or He -Man. No, they're not, but these are shorter,
I think. Extremely. What didn't you like about
this one? Well, Venom gets foiled again. They
basically just drop the thing they're after.
I think it was T -Bob, maybe in this case, tripped
one of the guys from the Venom team. I believe
he tripped Bruno. I don't know, they've had a
problem with that in the past, hanging on to
things that they've stolen. And then... of course
there were lots of puns in this one just as there
are in just about every episode and At one point
T Bob says I consider it my crowning achievement
And yeah, so like even even the the guy that's
there with them He's not one of the venom or
not one of the mass characters, but he's just
like one of the secondary Yeah, he just shakes
his head. I don't think that they've done that
very much in the series where somebody's just
like oh my gosh This is terrible. Yeah, it's
kind of bad. Alright, I think we are going to
move on to the next episode. Thanks for the warm
invitation, Gloria, but I promised I'd go skiing
with Scott this weekend. Forget it. Something
weird's going on here. Yesterday, everything
was perfect, but today, man, it's like vacationing
in Saudi Arabia. What's happening? Could you
be a little more specific? Everything's dried
up and covered with sand. S -S -Saudi Arabia?
I thought Gloria w -w -was in Al Capoco. No,
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-w -w -w -w Up next is the Creeping Desert. Dun
dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. A corrupt
landowner hires Venom to destroy land in Alcapulco,
Mexico, rendering them worthless patches of desert
so he can buy it up real cheap and restore land
later with an advanced hydration machine. Hmm,
where have I seen this before? Can anybody say
Lex Luthor? You know, playing around with the
San Andreas Fault Line to make California its
own state. Ah, Superman plot rethread, yay. Let's
just make it stop. Well, I didn't think this
one was so bad. It's something different, at
least. We're not chasing after treasure. No,
but... I mean, this is episode 58 out of 65.
I shouldn't expect this, but I hope that writers
actually write some decent damn plots. I guess,
as I'm so used to the cartoon writing of today,
that going back and watching this, it's like,
get this slime off my shoe. Ugh. Yeah, I guess
I give this one some props. I kind of like the
contrast of starting the episode at the mansion
and it's snowing and then we go to Acapulco and
there's, you know, it's warm. There's all this,
you know, sand and desert. Actually, you know,
the trees have all browned and actually some
of the buildings are in disrepair as well from
the sand machine that's turning everything into
desert. So I kind of like that contrast though
of you know, we go from the cold weather into
you know, the desert Yeah Transformers did it
better because Transformers started out with
a snowball fight. Oh, well, yeah Better But yeah,
no, I you know, I can I can agree with that but
but I mean just the general overall plot there
Liked it better when venom used to actually rob
places like Again, you know the Whatever the
Las Vegas episode was earlier in the season the
great gold rush or gold something or other I
forget what it is and They have this machine
in that one, which we've already talked about
it a long time ago But they had this machine
in that one where it sucks all the gold at all
the casinos and it's like hey That's a that's
an interesting plan. I'm like this So, alright,
let's go ahead and get to the high beams, I guess.
Computer, priority one emergency. Select the
best mask agents for this mission. Is there a
signal like that? I don't know. Gloria Baker,
preselected. Selection complete. Personnel approved.
Assemble Mobile Armored Strike Command. Turning
on the high beams. I only have two moments out
of this one and they're both animation related
the both of the battle scenes the animation both
battle scenes was really really well done the
action was really well done in those and The
laser fire and all that stuff absolutely love
the animation in those I agree I had that down
as a highlight as well What else did you like
about this one? T Bob the hairdryer Pretty funny
That's Scott gets wet and T Bob is drying him
off Love seeing the shit. Yeah, go ahead. Well
that started out as T Bob the snowblower because
Scott somehow let's see I thought T Bob was like
Any other robot where he could you know? Basically
remove his hands by himself and just pull him
into him or like I didn't realize at the time
when I was watching this that Scott actually
Removed his hands and feet to make him be the
snow blower blow -dryer Whatever and he keeps
asking him. When are you gonna put my hands back
on? I was like Scott's like I had no time for
that now. It's like jeez Yeah, he does and it
was funny when he was a hairdryer to the yeah
top of T Bob was red It was getting hot Mm -hmm
I love seeing the shots of Boulder Hill and the
gas station again And we get a little longer
shot of the helmet room, which we haven't seen
a whole lot in recent episodes They actually
is it this episode they actually use the the
little readout at the center of the table as
a map I Think I believe so yeah, I think it's
this one Yeah, so that was interesting. Yeah,
we don't see the helmet room a lot anymore because
they're all out in the field are all out doing
something or in the plane or Yeah, and it's some
of the recent episodes We've been seeing more
of the mask members as they're being called so
we get to see what they're doing Although I would
have to say that the things they're doing aren't
very interesting. It seemed like early on in
the series They were they were humorous You know
now it's just like They're there. They're doing
something and they get called away like, you
know Dusty's maybe riding a horse and he gets
called and Nothing really humorous happening
happens or Bruce is testing out some toy and
has to run off You know, usually they leave somebody
there holding the bag or something But this time
there just wasn't anything very interesting occurring
and they had they keep going to Julio and Calhoun
and these two new characters. What the hell is
Hondo? We haven't seen him in God knows how long.
Yeah, we haven't. The last time we saw Hondo
was when he was the Leprechaun scheme. The Pot
of Gold scheme a few podcasts back when they
were in Ireland. That's the last time we saw
Hondo, so whatever the hell episode that was,
I forget the name of the episode off the top
of my head. It's been a while since we've seen
Hondo. It's like, what the hell is he doing?
Did he retire or something? Did heaven forbid
an 80s cartoon character get killed or something?
I don't know. All right. Anything else for high
beams? Nothing else. All right, we're going to
get to the low beams. Perhaps Mother Nature took
her lunch break. Whatever it is, I hope Gloria's
got something on it by now. Alright, for the
low beams for the creeping desert. A desert is
no real danger. Are you fucking kidding me, Tracker?
Seriously? there are snakes and spiders and scorpions
and the You see you mean to tell me this guy
thinks that the Sun is not a real danger in the
desert. Hello heat stroke heat exhaustion dehydration
What an idiot? Why hasn't t -bob changed back
into oh, that's we already talked about why the
hell hasn't this is what I was saying earlier
and why I made the note here Why hasn't T -Bob
changed back into his real hands? It's because
he apparently can't change out his hands for
other body parts or other useful tools. Apparently
Scott just, you know, Scott George -Lucas -ed
him, apparently, on both hands. It's like, sorry,
yes, I am your father. it's like yeah um you
know i already mentioned the damn land deals
is the lex luther plot and and then we have the
the psa on firecrackers are you kidding me yeah
they should at least tailor these damn things
to mimic the episodes or have a lesson like we've
said before have a lesson from the episodes but
oh my god a PSA on firecrackers okay then uh
what did you like or not oh what didn't you like
about this one well i only wrote down one there
were a lot of things i didn't like about it but
um it's going to take six months for the foliage
to grow back i mean that's that's a long time
i hope this guy uh you know has a lot of money
sitting back there in the bank while he's waiting
for the uh the economy to recover because he's
he's having venom basically you know use this
machine or whatever to uh turn the whole place
into the desert so it runs everybody else out
of business then he can like buy up all the land
and build his hotels it's gonna take six months
for the foliage to grow back before he can even
start like getting people back into his hotels
yeah and and that's really the whole point of
this plot it's just I mean I like the concept
that yes they're going to turn the whole area
into desert but then it's just to help this guy
buy up some land and make a bunch of money and
of course you know Venom is going to profit from
it but you know even Cobra Commander could come
up with something better than that yeah that's
very true um very very true oh lord all right
so I kind of goofed up on this episode ladies
and gentlemen we're going to be giving our ratings
to the end of the podcast when we do closing
the show so next time around episode 24 it'll
go back to the ratings actually being at the
end of each episode's low beams so we're gonna
get to the final episode after this it won't
be long Dusty before everyone can have a glass
of clean drinking water thanks to your program
for purifying the Tooroon River It's gonna mean
good health and new jobs here in Venezuela. Matt!
Sam, you look like you've just seen a ghost.
That's easier to believe than what I'm going
to tell you, Matt. Angel Falls stopped flowing
just like this. Hold on, partner. You're trying
to tell us that a waterfall almost a mile high
stopped running? I've been an environmentalist
for 10 years, and I've never seen anything like
that. Dad! The river water level went down in
two seconds flat! You should have seen it! It
was far out! You mean to tell me the water level
of the river dropped because the waterfall has
stopped flowing? Sounds far -fetched! I'd like
to look into this, Dusty. I want to see what
puts a waterfall on hold. Finally up today is
the Scarlet Pumpernickel - Oh, I'm sorry. No,
there's no daffy duck here. The Scarlet Empress!
Mask member Calhoun Burns accidentally shrinks
a priceless statue Venom is trying to steal,
and Curious Bird makes off with the statue. Wow,
that's a really cheesy, low -brow plot synopsis
from Wikipedia. Yeah, so we're back to treasure
hunting. that plot doesn't exactly just basically
calhoun finds this thing uh... the statue of
the scarlet empress uh... finds venom with it
venom wants to because they're they're in venezuela
they're in south america go a little north people
come on now we need more north american adventures
here dammit instead of some foreign jungle So
apparently there are no roads going into and
out of this jungle so venom is going to Float
the statue that they stole down the river. Yeah
Okay Now I'll admit that when I Saw the title
of this episode I thought oh they're gonna pull
a jungle book They're going to, you know, have
Scott fall in love with some little Indian girl
or something or other or some little Venezuelan
girl or something. Like I thought the Scarlet
Empress was going to be like, what's her name
from Neverending Story? Yeah, I can't remember
her name, but I had the same idea. Yeah, I didn't
realize. Yeah, I didn't realize it was just going
to be some statue. And the plot for this is just...
it's just lame. What do you got for the plot?
I thought that there were some moments in the
very beginning that were interesting. It was
a good way to start it off with a little bit
of humor. Scott and T -Bob are fishing, and Scott
gets bitten by the fire ant, so then T -Bob throws
a bucket of water on him. And then... T Bob says
well at least something was biting today, so
I thought that again That was a good way to start
it off with a little bit of humor and then and
suddenly the lake starts drying up and and And
then off we go with the episode. I did kind of
like the the design for the Scarlet Empress So
those are those are nice, you know points in
the plot that I like but We'll get to more of
those things that we liked here in just a moment
Yep Hmm All right. Yeah, we're gonna get to the
high beams after this Laser burns are all over
those rocks. Yes, Brad, but he didn't take a
vacation after all. Of course not. Water was
obviously evaporated by the lasers. I get the
feeling we're smelling fishy water. And the fish
smell like venom. I wonder what kind of scheme
they've got cooking in. I don't know. But I have
a friend who might be able to help us. Zuwater.
So four high beams for the Scarlet Empress. I
have two things. Fire ants! Yikes! I thought
that was hilarious in the beginning and then
I thought it was even more hilarious at the end
and I will have two pictures in the post for
this one because um when Scott and T -Bob use
the fire ants at the end they bite Vanessa in
the butt and you see um I think is it this one?
I'm trying to remember. There's a point in either
this episode or it's maybe in an episode next
week where either Vanessa gets bitten or shot
in the ass, quite literally. It's next week.
Several characters get shot in the butt. Yeah.
Yeah, that's, that's, yeah. Okay. So, but anyway,
the fire ants thought that was absolutely amazing.
Yeah. Cause it's, it's used again. We mentioned
a little while ago, I mentioned about how it's
used early on with T Bob and Scott, but then
Rax gets bitten by the ants later on. And then,
uh, Gory. something that's it's a pun but it's
also kind of humorous sometimes they can be used
well and this is one of those times where I thought
was funny he said you'd use any antics to get
attention yeah yeah what else did you like about
this one well at least Matt figures out early
on in the episode that venom is behind this it
just takes us a while again to learn why venom
is so interested in this thing yeah Yeah, it
took... I'm trying to think. It was somewhere
along the lines of between 9 and 14 minutes to
even fully show Venom on screen. It might have
been around the 9 minute mark where we might
have seen or heard Miles talking to Rax, but
I think it was somewhere around 13 or 14 minute
mark where we actually finally learned of their
plan and... You know, I would at this point I
would rather have these episodes start with venom
start with their plot and Then go to mask instead
of going to Scott and okay Scott and T Bob fishing
I guess that was a setup for what obviously happens
at the end of the episode but like Start with
the bad guys have them do something and I mean
it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like
the Joker The Joker goes out and does things
commits crimes kills people Sets money on fire,
you know, whatever in order to get Batman's attention
right, you know, so Venom should be trying to
get even though they want to get away with it
But I mean, it's like the crimes that they do
should bring mask to them in the very beginning
of the episode, instead of just starting out
with, oh, Scott and T -Bob are relaxing, and
Matt's no, Matt, I don't think was anywhere in
sight in the beginning of this episode when they
were fishing. Exactly, this is what we've mentioned
before. Find other ways to introduce the episodes,
to bring the characters into it. It's always
the same way that we start off, pretty much is...
You know, Matt and Scott are with T -Bob vacationing
somewhere. Sometimes there's another mask member
with them. And they stumble along some mystery
or something. They somehow get involved in trying
to figure out what's going on. And of course,
we know Venom is behind it. But yeah, why not
start it off different and have Venom doing something?
And then we bring in the mask members later.
Again, is this this formulaic plot? they keep
using over and over again where it's just, you
know, okay, we've got to have, you know, so many
characters, we've got to have some scheme or
treasure hunt for Venom to go after. And this
gets tiresome. They've pretty much gone everywhere
in the world except maybe Australia and the North
Pole at this point. They're always in... either
Mexico, Mexican jungles, Venezuelan jungles,
South American jungles. There have been a couple
of times where it's actually coming up that,
you know, there's an episode where they go to
Italy. They've been to Paris. They've been all
over the world and they've been in the United
States maybe. Out of 60, okay, I don't know about
the other 60, about the other 5 or 10 or however
many episodes we have left. I think it's like
5 or 6, but out of the remaining episodes so
far, they've only been in the United States like
5 different times that I can think of in 65 episodes.
For a U .S.-based kids cartoon... Like if I want
to go exploring the world I'll watch something
like we're in the world of Carmen San Diego or
Mysterious cities of gold or you know something
like that like if I want a gold treasure hunt
type of stuff I would watch mysterious cities
of gold Right, I think that's one thing that
they they did wrong with this series is because
you know The kids don't really care where we're
at. I mean as a viewer. I don't really care I
mean yes, it's kind of interesting to go to different
places sometimes but to do it at this frequency
and just be Globetrotting for you know really
no apparent reason other than you know I will
say that occasionally and we've mentioned this
before is that they will throw in Historical
facts and things about some of the places that
they go to So they're sort of using it as a learning
device, but I just don't think it works very
well. I think it's unnecessary. I think the kids
really just want to tune into something that's
fun. You look at something similar to this, like
we mentioned GI Joe earlier in the episode. GI
Joe's in different places, but they're not in
a jungle every week. They're sometimes in a snowy
area. We don't even know where it's at. It's
just some snowy area, some desert area, some
jungle area. It doesn't really matter, you know,
let's just get the action moving. Let's let's
do something with the characters Let's find a
different plot device and and tell an interesting
story. Unfortunately, you know Mask is missing
the mark on that. Oh Very much. So very much.
So alright We're gonna get to the low beams,
which we kind of already started after this turning
on the low beams so why couldn't they have done
this plot in canada it made a hell of a lot more
sense for niagara falls to stop flowing that
whatever river this is in south america like
seriously yeah they could have gone they wouldn't
have had to go on the u .s side they could have
gone to the canadian side to niagara falls in
canada And just make, you know, of course, back
then, you probably see if you if you stop the
falls, you probably see a lot of people in midair
in barrels. Still, it's like, why couldn't they
have just done this shit in Canada? Yeah. Brilliant
idea, Mike. Brilliant. Yeah, I know. Right. See,
I'm better than the mask writers. And it turns
out to be in another treasure hunt. And then
I will say that gory had I had a good one you
already mentioned antics And then I think T Bob
had a good one anti -social Yeah And what PSA
would PSA there was no PSA in this episode It
was no such thing as ghosts Where did that come
from and the thing I was thinking is you know,
it wasn't even like this scary scene, you know,
I mean, you would think that T Bob and Scott
would be like, you know, all nestled in their
beds at night and there's a thunderstorm with
all this lightning or something and that, you
know, the wind comes howling through the window
and, you know, not something over, but no, it's
middle of the day, you know, it's like one o
'clock in the afternoon and they're just walking
by this creepy house or something. It's not,
not very well done. What else didn't you like
about this one? I mean, we talked about the ant
puns. There were a lot of them here. There were
a couple that worked pretty well, but they just
kept going on and on. There was something like
ant acid that I didn't think worked as well.
And then, Miles has to remind Natch to use his
mask powers to lift the object. Yeah. That's
what his mask power is. How can he forget? What
that mask does he shouldn't need reminding so
I thought that was just terrible Yeah Overall
this one just This might be the worst episode
of the day honestly It really really might So
yeah We are going to take a quick break You're
gonna come back with our final thoughts and ratings
on these three episodes and then we'll close
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creepy voice? All right, we are back here on
mass mayhem What are you going to give or not
give to? What the hell was the name of that damn
episode? Incident in Istanbul? Yeah, yeah, the
incident in Istanbul, how are you gonna write
that one? Okay, I'm gonna give this one two masks
Okay, I'm gonna give it a one Just As we were
talking it out, even with the animation for the
chessboard and all that stuff, that was cool,
but still... What didn't work for me in that
scene is the fact that in a different part of
it, something we didn't talk about when we were
discussing the episode, but in a different part
of the episode when T -Bob and Scott are in the
caverns below, as soon as Mayhem and the rest
of Venom opens up the chest thing, this giant
thing raises from the floor and guess who's standing
on the rock? Scott and T -Bob in the middle of
everything and Venom does not see them. runoff
venom doesn't see one. What are you going to
give Creeping Desert? Well, this one I actually
liked it more than the other episodes this week.
I'm going to give it two masks, but again, I
liked the difference in the locations. I mean,
I know we only saw the snow on the mansion there
in the beginning, just briefly. before he moved
on to the desert. But I did like the animation
in this one. We mentioned the good vehicle battle
in this. There were some humorous moments. There
was one moment that we didn't talk about that
I thought was pretty funny, and that is Rax gets
shoved by Rhino. And Rhino transforms, and the
front gate pushes off the front of Rhino's nose.
It just pushes him away, and he goes flying.
Yeah. So... Yeah, it was it was a little more
entertaining than the other episodes this week
And I think I maybe mentioned that the pacing
on this one wasn't too bad Yeah, this one for
me I really did dig it I thought it was kind
of cool outside of the whole you know I I mean
hell if I can overlook the fact that they used
the same damn plot in Superman returns as a Lex
Luthor land deal plot, I think I can overlook
it here in Mask. Overall, outside of that part
of the plot, I give this a three. I really did
enjoy it. I enjoyed the humor with Rax and everything
else. What about Scarlet Empress? Well, as you
mentioned, I think this was the low light of
this week's episodes. It was just awful. I don't
like giving zeros, so I'm going to give it a
one mask. But you know to me one means it's terrible
It was just really bad Okay, I did like the ant
pun some of those work pretty well, but overall
I just I thought like you this was a bad episode
Yeah for me. I'm gonna give it a one as well.
I generally only give zeros when something just
like makes the entire episode not work for me
at all or if it's something like as I mentioned
earlier in this podcast like what happened in
episode 21 of the podcast with the seatbelt thing
so yeah well let me say one of the things I did
not like about this episode is is the ending
you know we mentioned in the incident in Istanbul
where basically Venom is is overthrown just by,
you know, one of the guys being tripped and dropping
the treasure. And sort of the same thing here.
I mean, they're after this scarlet empress, and
it gets shrunken down and then carried off by
a parrot. And that's it. So, you know, we go
through all this just to have that happen at
the very end. It's just a convenient way to wrap
up the episode without really explaining anything.
Yep, and Matt even says oh well the parrot has
it now So I guess it's destined to forever be
lost in time or something or other. Yeah Alright,
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mayhem in episode 24 we will be talking about
the Venice menace treasure of the Narza plane
or Nasca plane and We're gonna pull a disappearing
act out of our hats. So stay tuned for the second
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