Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek Online Discussion

Hello and welcome to Future Imperfect. I'm your

host, Steve Megatron, and joining me is Captain

of the Future Imperfect. That's right, I'm deciding

to take back my ship as we've been away in the

Beta Quadrant for a little while. That's right,

it is I, Mike the Birdman, taking a little bit

of a return from my medical hiatus, hoping to

be back more full -time probably come June slash

July. But Steve asked me to do a Future Imperfect

and uh... We got some exciting changes coming

up for the show don't we Steve? Yes, we do First

of all, we're going to be covering a little bit

of the Star Trek Discovery and then a little

bit of Star Trek online, which I know you have

not played in the last year But being I just

jumped back into it about a week and a half ago

It's kind of enveloped my life over the last

week and then a little bit of Mass Effect, and

you said some Stargate, I believe. Yeah, like,

what we're gonna be doing with Future Imperate

moving forward, obviously Star Trek will always

be a primary focus, but kind of expanding things

out to include more general sci -fi topics and

science in general, as me and Steve, this is

more kind of our area of expertise, as opposed

to doing stuff with, say, TFG on Mike, who's

more pop culture focused. When we do things on

altered geek doing things on future imperfect

allows us to focus on more science and just more

Sci -fi in general because that seemed to be

were like me and Steve had the meeting of the

mind so to speak So if you want to hear about

stuff from like say Battlestar Galactica or Mass

Effect or just you know what's happening in the

world of space exploration then you've definitely

come to the right place and even just talking

about science in general if something really

cool happens I'm sure we'll be able to cover

it here on Future Imperfect. I guess without

any further ado, let's kind of jump into Star

Trek Discovery because that was supposed to premiere

next month. Yeah, that's not happening. Well,

it was supposed to have the the pilot in January,

if you remember. Yep. And they were supposed

to have it on CBS and then having the the app

launch with the show and having it exclusively

show up in May, which is not happening. My guess

is now what they've said from the production

team is they don't have a Date ready yet for

the show, which I wouldn't call that indicative

of trouble just yet my guess is they're saving

it for Comic Con or New York City Comic Con and

You'll see the full episode my guess is in the

next six months months. My guess is it won't

premiere this year Or if it does it'll premiere

during the fall Which I wouldn't say is a completely

missed opportunity because they are producing

13 episodes I'd rather them take the time to

do them right because I think they wrapped principal

photography a couple of weeks ago Which they

were filming in Toronto. So not too far away

from where I now live And it was being produced

under the code name Green Harvest. Now, I've

got a lot of friends in the Toronto film industry

and I haven't heard anything negative coming

out of it yet. I would have by now. But I haven't

heard anything positive either. Yeah, I haven't

heard anything good either and that's almost

more worrying than hearing anything bad. Now,

most of the news has been on the castings. So

of course there's that. Then there's the the

fact that we have, in addition to the castings,

we have the timeline, which takes place ten years

before the original series, which I think is

a mega fail. Yeah, I mean, it's something that

we've kind of already seen. I mean, we've seen

Star Trek Enterprise. We've seen the original

series. Now, while I'll give them what Enterprise

did, granted, I have to go back and watch it,

and I will say that some of the temporal stuff

that happens in Enterprise is tied into the Star

Trek Online game. There's a lot of continuity

that I'm like, oh I remember this from this episode

and I remember this from this episode because

there's a lot of Enterprise, the original series,

Next Generation, DS9, Voyager and beyond and

the Kelvin universe even that shows up in the

game. And so to me, while I get kind of what

they're doing here, they're having One, they're

having a female captain. Which I think is good,

even though she's not technically a captain,

she's a lieutenant commander. True. But that

doesn't reduce the fact that she's commanding

her own ship. But what I find to be a little

bit of a failure is, at this particular time

period, that wouldn't have happened. I don't

think that's entirely true. It's not entirely

true, but thinking back on the original series

continuity... You didn't see a lot of females

in command position. You didn't see any females

in command position in the original series. Mind

you, that was also just on television. If you

look at the Expanded Universe novels, whether

they count as canon or not, there may have been

more people there, and I'm pretty sure there

were some women in command at Starfleet Command

at that time. Mind you, because what we see is

representative on TV, you know, times are changing

at that time. I'm not trying to sound sexist

with it. I'm going to add it strictly from a

continuity from what we've seen. If you're just

taking the shows from a strict continuity purpose,

one, it's got that shiny look the Abrams universe

had. Doesn't work. Well, I've seen the ship the

ship looks like It's too it looks too fake. It

looks too shiny. It looks like something I would

see in the video game of Star Trek online It

doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the time period

no, and it doesn't in the they show the command

chair trying to like tease something with nothing

and Honestly, I would have preferred that they

did something between Star Trek 7 and TNG Yeah,

because that would have been more like interesting

there's there's 70 years of nothing Well, yeah,

because then you have the possibility of updating

the technology to the more TNG look and Filling

in like you said that 70 year gap Whereas it's

ten years before the original series. Ooh, who

cares? Well in the rumor has it is that they're

gonna bump into some of the original series characters

Well, I know they're going to bump into Harry

Mudd, which... Is that his name, Harry Mudd?

Yeah, it's a version of him, of hardcore Harry

Mudd. They're going to have Ray and Wilson play

him, but his own version, which doesn't quite

jive if it's in the same continuity as the main

universe with the future iteration that shows

up in TOS. Yeah, like there's just there's I

think the problem is they want to play it safe

They want to they want to make happy in my mind

the old Star Trek nerds like the old old guard

and not necessarily willing to risk it on the

new people who are only experienced in the Abrams

verse and Maybe I've seen some episodes of Voyager

Enterprise in passing And I can see why maybe

they're not setting it post -Nemesis because

it's hard to talk Picard and company. Here, the

only people you really have to compete against

is Kirk, and that cast is somewhat, and it's

gonna sound blasphemous for me to say this, has

largely been forgotten because a lot of them

are, unfortunately, have all passed away. Well,

there's only three out of the seven that are

gone. Yeah, like there's Scotty there's McCoy

and there's Spock Kirk is still floating around

check off Sulu in a hurrah Yeah, and I don't

see them getting ready to do cameos anytime soon

I mean, I'm sure you know you invite Brent Spiner

to the craft services table. He'd show up You

love your character But even Michael Dorn says

he won't come out and do this because they offered

him less than 1 % Of what he made when he was

doing wharf, which means literally i'm pretty

sure they offered him a uber cab fare craft services

and a t -shirt At this point, which is so disrespectful

Well what I love from the franchise and that's

what I love about the star trek online universe

is because You get everything post nemesis So

you get all this continuity filled in from all

these casts that we loved, plus a ton of new

characters that you've never heard of. So it's

kind of world building itself. And as far as

I know, it's officially canon. It is. I mean,

at least until they want to retcon it if they

want to do a movie, but for right now, it's official.

Well, the thing is they actually jump about 30

years after Nemesis. or after the Dominion War.

And, like, the Borg are back, the Romulans are

still trying to rebuild their ship. Well, there's

actually two factions of Romulans in the game.

Mm -hmm. And the Tal Shiar. Which, I think it's

cool, just the fact that they're trying to rebuild

that world and keep the TNG world alive, like

I said, post -Nemesis, by adding the logical

events that would have happened following the

collapse of the Romulan Star Empire. Stuff like

that. And do you remember Enterprise where they

had ancient Daniels? Vaguely. Well, he was in

like one episode of all four seasons. Maybe two

in a couple seasons, but he shows up a lot in

Star Trek Online. Because he's kind of your guide

whenever there's a temporal disturbance and you're

having to go fix it. Including when you have

to go to the Terran universe or the Kelvin universe.

See, and I think that's cool because they do

give you the option in Star Trek Online to start

off there. Well, they actually don't give you

the option to start off in the Kelvin universe.

Well, I thought they did. You had an option to

play a character from the 23rd century and then

you get jumped forward. Well, what it is is your

character starts off in the 30 years. It's like

2380. and there's a big battle and your character

dies. Your ship and your character like they

all die and Daniels warps you ahead to the year

2410 to assist with modern day to fix various

things in the timeline and assist in areas that

the other characters may not be so capable. See,

that's really cool. I mean, it's been a long

time since I've played Star Trek online, which

is I guess I guess we we could jump into that

there isn't a whole lot talk about discovery

Simply because there isn't a lot been revealed

about it So far, although I do have a question

About it and I don't know whether it's ignorant

to say or not So I'm just gonna fire from the

hip and go from it now the character who's been

cast as the lieutenant commander Was originally

from the Walking Dead. She played Sasha. Yeah

She's playing a character named Michael. What's

what's the last name again? I'm not sure but

yeah, but yeah now I don't know is she playing

a woman is she playing a Transgendered character

because I've heard there's like I've never run

across a woman named Michael, but I hear it's

a common thing I've just never come across it

in my personal experience I've never come across

it but as far as I know there's supposed to be

a gay character in the show. Yeah Yeah, so I'm

really glad that they're gonna have an LGBTQ

character in the show, whether it's gay or transgendered

or whatever. I'm just, it's cool, it's happening,

I'm glad the future's inclusive, but I just kind

of wish the wording on her character was a little

bit more clear. See, I think that people would

be fine with it if it weren't for the fact that

like because I feel like they're doing it to

be politically correct Like I feel that in a

sense that they're doing that to be politically

correct. I mean, I understand that there are

people that are that and You know, if that's

your the way you go then, you know good for you,

you know, it's I'm not dissing you or anything,

but But here's for the story possibilities. It's

gonna bring up see like me I watch Star Trek

not so much for the Orientation I watch it for

the intelligence And if that starts to detract

from the intelligence of it like how they did

it in the Kelvin universe with Sulu Just a passing

nod. I was perfectly fine with because they weren't

like shoving it in my face, but it was there

I'm very curious to see whether it'll develop

into a true romantic subplot, or whether it'll

just be, oh, this character's getting a party

on, or whether it'll be this character has a

boyfriend, girlfriend, or whatever, and is it

gonna be a concern? Let's say the character is

transgendered. How is that gonna be addressed?

How are you gonna write this character? And as

long as it makes for compelling television, I'm

all for it. because obviously right now, more

than any other point in the last couple of years,

we seem to be at a rather interesting social

change, where a lot more people are coming out

as gay, transgendered or whatever. And it's not

something I understand as, you know, a straight

native male in his 30s. But I have, I'd like

to consider myself an ally to the cause, though

I still have a lot of questions. But Ultimately

as long as the characters well represented as

long as it makes your compelling television and

as you said as long as it's not a Political statement

that's cool if they're there just you know if

that's like the the same Yeah, don't be a checklist

be like essentially what the The difference of

when you know Troy dated an interspecies thing

with war for you know It was there, but it wasn't

like Yeah Yeah, it didn't detract from the show.

Exactly. Don't be boring. Don't be a checklist.

Be compelling. Be interesting. Be well represented.

Because if Star Trek has done anything well,

it tackles social issues. It's tackled racism

back in the 60s. Well, it did it in the 60s.

It did it even with data. Yeah, exactly. I was

just about to bring that up when it comes to

how do you define a person. Or Odo. or the holographic

doctor. I mean, every series has one of those

characters. Yeah, and this series, because everyone's

so hyper aware of it now, could really stand

to make a really cool statement with it. So I

hope the series represents that community well.

Like I said, please don't be a checklist. Please

be compelling. Moving on to something a little

less politically charged, though, depending on

who you ask. So start with online. So, Star Trek

I won. This is a game I haven't played in probably

about a year or two, though now it's available

on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, and it's available

for free. Yep, it's been for free. It's been

out... Six years, I think. Six or seven years.

Not a while. But it went free about three years

ago. which is about when we started the show

and I think I tested it out around then and I

never got past Cadet because I got stuck at the

time they were doing this thing with the Borg

and there weren't seasons, there weren't missions,

it was just you play this one round and that's

all you got and now they've done the marketplace

type of design to the game. So like if you get

special boxes, like uncommon boxes or infinity

boxes, which infinity boxes are things of special

offers that are only available for like a said

week of the past. So for instance, the Kelvin

universe, Vengeance Ship or Enterprise, you have

to open an infinity box or a Kelvin. box and

you need a master key to unlock and the master

keys are like 125 of whatever these, you know,

space box. Yeah, space box, basically. And you

have to actually buy them to open the boxes.

So just like if you want to change their uniforms

to a certain degree, like you're allowed so many

outfits that you can unlock throughout the game

or that are given to you freely. And if you want

to change it into a different... For instance,

if you want the original series movie uniforms,

the red, to do whatever you want with, there

are so many space bucks. And it's like that with

a lot of the stuff. If you unlock one, you might

unlock a plethora of other things. So you can

customize everything down to the character design,

the... the uniform, the ship design. There's

a lot of ways that you can recolor it. You can

change out. So if it's a sovereign class starship,

you can change it out and have parts from the

Nova ship. There's only certain ships that are

in that category that you can mix and match it

with. So the Constitution refit, there's three

different classes that you can mix it with. But

there's a lot of customization, a lot of character

building. You get to build your own away teams.

You get to capture your own gear. You get to

send people from your crew on away missions to

build up your experience. You can keep all of

your ships that you've gotten throughout the

game. And when you become an Admiral, you can

send them on missions to gain you points. See,

I wish I'd stuck with the Star Trek experience

because when this game first came out, I was

doing a lot of work for a bunch of radio stations

and Atari, who was the original publisher for

this, I think it's Cryptic Studios, I think was

the actual developer. Cryptic wasn't the original.

I think Cryptic was part of it, but ARK... Actually,

Ark Games actually owns part of it now. There

was a different studio in charge at the time,

and my cadet character is forever stuck in a

time loop fighting the Borg. Because when the

game first went free... You had to log in, didn't

you? Yeah, when you log in. That was the mission

that I had. And I still cannot, to this day,

get out of that level. So being it was only cadet,

I started a new character and now I'm level 56

Admiral. It doesn't take long to level up until

you hit the Admiral stage. You start off a Starfleet

cadet and you get your first bridge officer because

the thing is Starfleet apparently is running

low on... High -ranking individuals at the time

and so they're just letting even lieutenants

take commands of Starships So you start off with

like a Miranda class type of ship And then when

you get to Starfleet lieutenant you get to unlock

a new ship And you unlock like transwarp so you

can you can go to like the the earth space station

or the beta quadrant Or you know something like

that? So like level one, you get to Starfleet

Lieutenant. So I think what happened is I got

the Miranda class and then I got the original

Enterprise. I went and got that. And then I became

a Lieutenant Commander at level 10. I got the

Refit Enterprise. And then at level 20, you become

a Commander and you get like this almost like

Stargazer with a galaxy class saucer. of sorts

and then level 30 become a captain and there's

a particular mission where you end up with the

Enterprise C because you actually end up in an

alternate timeline and it gives you the Enterprise

C as like a bonus. That's pretty cool. And then

so like when I hit captain I get the Enterprise

D and then when I hit rear Admiral at lower half,

rear admiral lower half at level 40 I got the

sovereign enterprise E and then every five levels

after that they start leveling you up so you

become a rear admiral upper half and then vice

admiral then Starfleet admiral and then I'll

be Starfleet fleet admiral after I hit level

60 so yeah and I've got probably Let me see,

how many episodes? You start off with the Klingon

War, the Wasteland, which is kind of the Galactic

Wasteland stuff. You get the Romulans and its

technology through the Delta Quadrant. Selah

shows up. Selah. And then you get the Cardassians.

You get the Breen, the Borg. New Romulus, the

Solenae Dyson Sphere, a lot of going into the

past Delta Quadrant stuff which is like heavy

with Voyager crew. So like you get the EMH, you

get Seven of Nine, you get Tuvok, you get Harry

Kim. I could have sworn there was like one other

character. Oh, Neelix. that all show up. Then

there's the Iconian War, which is what I'm doing

now. There's two more levels. There's Future

Proof and New Frontiers after that, which Future

Proof is setting up the stuff from that Enterprise

episode with Daniels and where Archer goes to

the 29th century and sees that battle of Prokion

V. Daniels basically tells them you know that

you have to you know that they're in this particular

the 25th century They start setting up the with

all the different factions. You know the Romulans

the Klingons the the Federation the guidelines

for the temporal laws So then and then on April

25th, they're opening up another entire new episode

So and there there could be as little as like

three missions under your thing or like 12 or

Some of them seem like they're annoying. So like

if they are I skip them See I may have to get

back into this now that it's on console and you

can actually partner with people Yeah, power

level you and then give you some awesome gear

Now, when I originally got this game, I had a

lifetime subscription. I hope it still gives

me all my cool shit. If you have that, I believe

they give you... I believe there's some perks

that they give you in certain boxes based on

your sponsorship. As it were yeah, I hope so

because I had like I could play as a former Borg

I had like the wrath of common and I had all

this really cool crap I haven't logged into my

account. It's like 2013. So it's been a while

Should still work because my account my account

I haven't used in three years and it I logged

right back in Although a friend of mine and I

feel so tragically bad for him He bought a lifetime

subscription when the first game came or when

the game first came out He didn't have a computer

powerful enough to run it until literally this

year His account is lost Because the company

that originally gave it to have the company that

originally published it Doesn't or doesn't exist

anymore or at least has changed this game has

changed hands a few times It's only changed hands

once It went yeah, that's that's unfortunate.

I'm sure you could get a hold of the the people

to ride Huh, he's trying it makes me so sad cuz

When the game first came out, I remember you

could buy the lifetime subscriptions for one

time only price of 300 bucks So yeah, I came

out in 2010 Yeah, cuz I remember this came out

when I was just finishing post -grad Uh, cause

I remember playing this game when I got snowed

in for like a week. Um, but yeah, I remember,

uh, I remember having fun with this game. Just

me and MMOs just never seemed to get along. That

when the, when this game first came out, it was

so boring. Oh, I agree. There was nothing to

do. And the fleet actions were just a new thing

when I stopped. And I remember fighting a Borg

Armada and getting my ass utterly handed to me.

So I kind of said nuts to this and left. But

now hearing your experiences with it, I may have

to give it yet another run. Just because I've

like I said, I've still got some time off from

my twig and everything. So I have nothing but

time on my hands right now. Yeah, so like they

they have. What does it say? There are three

factions, Federation, Klingon, Romulan. This

says, and players can create characters from

any of these factions at level one. And it says,

and you can have bridge officers from a separate

race. So you can have like a Borg bridge officer

and you can have a Klingon and you can have...

It's kind of awesome. And then some of the voices

are Zachary Quinto, Leonard Nimoy, Chase Masterson,

Majel Barrett, Denise Crosby, Michael Dorn. Like

I said, the Voyager cast. Then there's... Oh

yeah, they got Tom Paris. He's about to show

up. And then somewhere in the next couple of

missions. And then you've got Walter Cohen as

Chekhov showing up. He'll be at some point in

this thing. Chris Doohan filling in for James

Doohan as Scotty. Matt Winston, the guy that

plays Daniels, he reprises. Vic Mignona, or,

I can't say his name, but he's from Star Trek

Continues, but he plays Admiral Isaac Garrett,

a member of the Starfleet Command in the 23rd

century of the Kelvin universe. See, I think

that's really cool because considering how much

work Vic does with voice acting I'm surprised.

I'm really glad his Star Trek enthusiasm and

fandom Landon landed him a role on this. So his

character is still a cannon. I recognized his

character or the voice and then science officer

0718 from Star Trek into darkness the robotic

Android guy that was tied into the ship Yeah,

he's in this too See, that's really cool. I'm

really glad that Star Trek Online has incorporated

so many elements from so many different areas

of Star Trek to keep it going. Yeah, there's

so much continuity in this and jumping around

of different stuff that it's sick. And the amount

of Starships and the upgrades for any of the

ships is monumental now. They have everything

from the show. plus new versions and like refits

of those that have never been seen on TV as well

as ships that have never been seen. So like there's

literally like unlimited possibilities for everything.

I'm gonna have to get into it and that's kind

of... Kind of exciting the fact that an old game

can be can shake off a really rough start to

become something kind of neat and with most MMOs

Free to play these days. You've got no lack of

choice. I mean you still got World of Warcraft

Star Wars the old Republic, and you don't have

to sink money into these games if you don't want

to with the exception of Warcraft. You're only

free until level 20, then you have to start paying

the monthly sub fee. Yeah, this is completely

free unless you want to upgrade to certain certain

ships or unlock certain uniforms. If you're a

part of a squad, you can unlock certain features.

Somebody asked me to join like right away. like

I was like a lieutenant commander and I was like

okay and then I just accepted it so like now

I've gotten like all these perks just because

of that like I can have an extra ship I can have

you know an extra like costume change for the

characters you know it unlocks other stuff so

like there's I mean there's benefits to everything

so you're playing this on PC right correct Yeah,

I'm very curious to see how the console experience

carries over, because I remember this game being

quite heavy in all the keyboard commands that

you had to enter. There's not really that many.

I mostly use my mouse just to click the stuff,

and then I use the WASD to move and the shift

button to run and the spacebar to jump. I mean,

I'm sure I could use a controller if I wanted

to, but yeah, it's actually... It's actually

not that bad. I mean, it's... I've gotten used

to it. I mean, I have a gaming mouse now too,

so I guess it kind of helps, but... so I would

love to hear from people that are actually still

actively playing this so if you are still playing

this we'd love to hear from you now one of our

email addresses is currently being funky right

now but if you want to get a hold of us you can

email Mike at ThisWeekInGeek .net and we will

read your email on the next show or we'll just

reply to you on Twitter or we'll just write you

back and say hey what's going on So Steve, remind

me to talk to you about the other email issue

after the show. Not a problem. But another thing

that I want to talk about is because, like I

said, I've got nothing but time on my hands right

now. I've seen the entirety of TNG. I'm starting

a watch through of DS9. And I've always wanted.

other shows to fill that sci -fi gap. And I recently

discovered Stargate SG -1, which I've realized

has been around for 20 years, but it's the longest

running sci -fi show. Right now it was one of

the longest running I think Supernatural Technically

in Smallville I would run it now. Well Supernatural

is at 12 year 12. It's been renewed for another

season or two He keeps coming back I'm not even

joking dude. I'm about done with the show So

I'm just discovering older sci -fi that was running

at the time when we had Voyager on the air, DS9

was starting to wind down and before Enterprise

would appear and it's running back in 2005, I

want to say, or 2004. So I'm having a lot of

fun going through Stargate and I kind of realize

it's like TNG but without the ship. It's nothing

but away missions but with guns. And I really

enjoy Richard Dean Anderson. I love MacGyver

as Colonel Jack O 'Neil. And I don't know, there's

just something about that show. I'm having so

much fun with that I didn't necessarily have

with Star Trek. Because it's not as philosophical

as Star Trek could be. I'm sure there's our episode

just in the second season now. I'm sure that'll

change at some point. It's not as gloomy as Battlestar

Galactica or as political just yet. And I haven't

started into anything like Atlantis or Universe.

I haven't seen the movies like The Ark of Truth

or whatnot. So, I don't know. It's... Steve,

have you seen SG -1? Uh, no. I mean, I've tried

getting into Stargate. It just never really grabbed

me. My recommendation to you is give it another

shot. Watch the movie and watch like the first

10 episodes. I watched the movie about a year

ago and I found it to be horrible. Although,

oh my god, I think it's one of Roland, you know

what, it's one of the movies that everybody forgets

the guy who did Independence Day in 2012 did.

I think it was one of his first movies, if not

his first movie, Roland Emmerich. And I just

I kind of forgot how much cool lore the Stargate

universe introduces and when I think about it

when I compare it to Star Trek I Wonder if it

may be as deep because my friend Alex who's walking

me through the series right now says with ten

seasons of multiple series It's just as deep

as Star Trek. It's just different and i kind

of find that to be an interesting companion because

i can't think of many other long -running sci

-fi series that had a big ensemble cast like

star trek because star because we've got in stargate

we've got jack o 'neill uh samantha carter daniel

jackson and teal who's the cool uh jafa guy and

i'm and then there's all the side All the like

side characters as well with Star Trek. Of course,

we can name the entire bridge crew and even a

few Even a few other smaller side characters

like lieutenant Barclay and what not funny should

say about Some of those characters like chief

O 'Brien Yeah, he's actually the chief engineer

of enterprise F In the game because the enterprise

E I guess is destroyed at some point point During

some mission and it was Captain Data Is the captain

and oh, yeah, that's right because before became

actually data. Yeah it they it surfaced or whatever

and so he was the captain of the Enterprise E

and The ship was destroyed, but he saved all

the crew. So they built the Enterprise F out

of the Odyssey class starship Which actually

has this like cool vent just below the saucer

and just above the hull of the ship so that it's

got like extended airflow that goes through it

like space so that it actually gets faster warp

speeds. When you get it to a higher, when you

become an admiral I think you get to unlock slipstream

which means you can travel across the galaxy

that much faster. Actually pretty wicked but

um Yeah, that just drove me to that point but

another show I know that it was sci -fi that

I kind of caught a little bit of when it was

new Was Star Trek or not Star Trek? Andromeda

Andromeda is another show Once again, my friend

Alex has got me to he's he's gonna get me to

check that out and far escape in the next little

bit. And I know Andromeda was Gene Roddenberry's

Andromeda. Yep. With Hercules. Yep, Kevin Sorbo

as a producer. So that's another show I want

to check out. I also know Gene Roddenberry also

did a show during the 90s called Earth 2, which

I haven't had a chance to download yet. I don't

know if it's available on DVD. Probably all things

considered but I mean one of the cool things

I want to do with future and perfect kind of

going forward Is check out some of these older

in different sci -fi shows? I know one show Ryan

Merkley aka the uneven flow is recommended to

me For like a year now as a show on sci -fi called

the expanse Which is supposed to be the best

sci -fi show currently airing so I'm very interested

in just checking out what's new in the realms

of science fiction. Since I've kind of caught

up on Game of Thrones, what's the next thing

to consume my life? So I guess I'm looking to

get off of Westeros and to maybe board a starship.

And now currently I'm in the Stargate universe.

Where am I going to go next? So if you listeners

have any ideas for me, Mike at ThisWeekInGeek

.net, give me some ideas. I really do want to

check out some older shows. I'll check them out

from different countries, too. And before anybody

suggests it, yes, I'm in the Doctor Who, but

I haven't caught up on the latest Doctor. I'm

about a season and a half behind. So I need to

get around to fixing that because Doctor Who

seasons are nice and short. So that's like a

weekend if I'm really bored. I don't know, Steve,

we should probably begin to wrap things up. Anything

we want to ask our listeners or things we want

to talk about next time? Well, maybe we'll do

some sci -fi shows that we should check out or

some games for that matter because, like, I know

we didn't get to touch on it this time, but even

Mass Effect is kind of, in a sense, kind of reminds

me of this Star Trek game, in a sense, except

you get... to customize more than you would in

Mass Effect. And it's very world -ability. So

there are scenarios where you can choose what

you say to certain people, and certain scenarios

end up differently based on what you say. Absolutely,

yeah. So next time on Future Imperfect, let's

talk some really good world -build -y video games.

So we'll talk Mass Effect, we'll talk Starcraft,

even stuff like EVE Online. Guys, give us your

ideas. So Mike at ThisWeekInGeek .net, or hit

us up on Twitter at SCP21, that's Steve. Yep.

Or at Birdman. I always reply. Or simply at ThisWeekInGeek,

which usually Blanchard runs that one, but it'll

get to us some way, somehow. I know we used to

have a Twitter account where it was goofy looking

Spock, I don't know if we still have that. Future

Spock? Yeah, future Spock. Oh, Lord Rest Leonard

Nimoy's soul. What's sad is I knew I made a really

off -color joke. The day he died? Please tell

me you did it the day he died. Not the day he

died. I did it a while before, I did it like

the year we created it. And I says watch I'm

gonna post all this crap and then next year he's

gonna and then sure enough You're a terrible

person. I it's one of those predicting the future

thing. So I obviously need to shut up about it

But yeah guys, so thank you for joining us here

on future imperfect We always look forward to

hearing from it We do hope to do this show a

little bit more often now that Steve has a more

stable recording schedule I'm getting a more

stable recording schedule. We can always look

forward to talking more sci -fi on this show

as we await the premiere of Star Trek Discovery.

Whenever the hell that'll be, we'll just have

to wait and see. So I guess until next time we

have been Steve Megatron Phillips and I've been

Mike the Birdman Dodd saying live long and prosper.