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more on this week's Altered Geek Unlimited. Hello

and welcome to Altered Geek Unlimited episode

80. I'm your host Steve Megatron Phillips and

joining me this week is a different dynamic.

We have a returning host. Hello. Who the hell

are you? Yeah, I'm amazed my equipment still

works. I almost thought the microphone was actually

packed up. But my wife and her infinite wisdom

left it unpacked on the desk. It must have been

an omen. Something. Or she's just really she's

just too good for me. She just knows you. Pretty

much. So, yes, I am back. Michael Powers, I'm

here with. Sometimes unpopular opinions about

things. I think you had more of the popular opinions

of things. We had more comments. But that's maybe

because you get people thinking we just kind

of are off the wall. Well, we'll see if I can

drum them up. Maybe wake them up a little bit.

We had a lot of comments this week. And if you

haven't guessed, unlike the Birdman Dud, I'm

the person your parents warned you about. Don't

take candy from him to say Unless there's skittles

from your mouth unless there's skittles with

the trick rabbit Unless you give unless you give

him a skittle bomb and then he's happy But we're

also joined with a co -host from this week How

did I get in here even double D Dennis? Sitting

on Mike's couch Not my lab week He's not Santa

Claus I tried that already But he gives you presents?

I do. No, he gave me Skittles. I gave you AIDS.

Skittle bombs. Skittle AIDS. Isn't that Sklades?

Sklades. It's a new terrible disease. The CDC

is currently investigating it. So... Here is

our intrepid, uh, lanchard. A rock fell on him.

He's at home washing his tights. He's been using

Brand X. Aquaman's not here right now. Please

leave a message. I miss calling him Aquaman or

him and his giant grizzly Adam's beard. I just

miss the jokes about it, so. Every time I see

the beard I think of Duck Dynasty. Right now

he's probably like when he's listening to this

will be banging his head on his desk Working

a lot I Did a 17 -hour shift on Monday a 17 -hour

shift on Tuesday I Had yesterday off and I did

15 hours today It's more money in my pocket,

that's how I look at it. How's the the moving

process? Yes, I am getting ready to move It's

going well, I mean Steve, you know, I don't know

if Mike you know, you know about this the whole

process of trying to buy a home is Lengthy because

people ask you for stuff you give it to them

then they don't get it and you ask they ask for

it again and it's a big Mess, but everything's

on the up -and -up. We should be closing by the

end of the month So hopefully we'll be moving

in the like the first week of April into our

new home Which I'm really excited about but like

the outside of the house is it's Someone just

made a box and put windows in it But the the

inside is is really I I really like the inside

of the house The outside is like nothing to look

at at all. It is a straight -up two -story box

house Like a little cube, but with a roof on

it If you painted it black and put some piping

on the outside of it, you could probably make

it into a Borg cube. Oh, wow. But the inside

of it's where it's at. And I've got the wife

has given me permission to make the house as

smart as we possibly can. So some of my first

purchases for the home are going to be the Nest

line of products like the Nest Learning Thermostat.

and the nest smoke detectors, stuff like that.

So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to it because

whenever I go and look, when I would go and you

look at an apartment to like move to or something

like that or when we're shopping for the house

that we have right now, we'd go and look at these

houses. And the first thing I always try to do

when I walk into a living space is where would

I put the TV? How would I hook up the surround

sound but but that's the same thing that has

to do with where you put the TV like Wherever

the TV goes. It's where your center channel is

gonna go, right? So it's it's all it's all kind

of the same thing It's just everything for me

is centered around Where's the best spot for

the TV to go and I'm really good at visualizing

that except for this house I could not visualize

where to put the TV in the family room and So

it's going on the ceiling. Not quite. They did

this really weird thing. They added an enclosed

porch onto the front of the house. But they had

a before that they had a picture window that

looked out on the front yard. Well, when they

added in this enclosed porch, they left the picture

window on the inside wall. So this giant picture

window looked out onto this enclosed porch, which

was kind of pointless. So. my wife thought, well,

why don't you just put the TV in front of the

window? And I was like, well, OK, that's that's

fair, because the window doesn't look out on

anything anymore. And on the other side of the

window, I think outside the box. But when I went

over there for the inspection with my dad, he

took a look at the picture window. And ironically

enough, it's the same window they have in their

house. And he's like, you know, this all of this

comes out. And is like one piece we can take

this out finish the wall and we can build you

an entertainment center that around your TV And

I like lost I lost my shit Because all of a sudden

is like I I can now the thing that like most

how most women plan like their weddings for the

last 16 years of my life. I've been planning

in my head the perfect entertainment center and

So like now I have the I have the opportunity

and the space To do this and my wife also in

her graciousness gave me permission to also buy

another TV To go in this in this new Entertainment

Center, this is on top of the TV. I got in November

Well, I have a The TV I got in November because

I found as I can't remember the last time I did

a podcast with you Steve It's been a while. I

picked up on special from Sam's Club I picked

up the 60 inch Vizio 4k TV for a thousand bucks

And I my plan is to For the for the entertainment

center for the new home My plan is to get Vizio's

reference series TV, which isn't out yet, but

it's another 4k TV There's a whole bunch of like

bells and whistles that go along with it that

I don't really think anyone cares about but me

I mean, I tell people I talk to people about

it, but their eyes just glaze over You know,

I haven't really done that on this TV The the

one interesting thing about this TV is one of

the things I was expecting with 4k TV was that

input lag would be a pain in the ass like Because

it has to be able to it has to take a 1080p signal

and upscale it to 4k to be presented You know

the right way on the TV, and I thought that's

gonna add a whole bunch of input lag between

what I do and what shows up on the TV. And what's

really funny is it actually has the lowest rated

input lag out of most TVs on the market. It's

it's between 15 and 20 milliseconds. So and I've

I've noticed a difference in games that are like

like Arkham, where it's the button press actually

matters and like Shadows of Mordor is another

one. Where the button presses actually matter.

It's it's way more on It's twice as fast as the

TV that I replaced it with which was a three

-year -old Samsung So and I've seen some 4k stuff

not not true 4k like from a sort from a dedicated

source or anything like that, but Netflix I Can

definitely see a difference between 1080p and

4k at least as far as the streaming content goes

So but I like it and that yeah, I was gonna go

with the vizio reference series, which is a 65

inch TV As the centerpiece for the new entertainment

center That just sounds sick I have this tendency

to buy a new TV every two to three years Regardless

of how like what the current the current one

is and what's really funny is the the TV I replaced

was a 55 inch Samsung It was a top -of -the -line

Samsung in 2012 I believe it was and It was really

it was it's a still really nice TV and I told

I told Ali this is when 4k was just coming out

of CES and it was like eight Between eight and

ten thousand dollars for a 4k TV and We all know

that 4k TVs that TV technology the price on it

falls out really fast and Told her I said, you

know, I I want to get this TV the Samsung TV

But I will not look or get another TV until like

4k is Within my price range thinking it's going

to be years before that stuff comes down in price

lo and behold Almost two years later Vizio shows

up at CES with their 4k TV starting at a thousand

dollars And I was like, okay Babe this wasn't

me. I didn't do this. I wasn't expecting anybody

to come up with a thousand dollar 4k TV So of

how quickly that kind of technology develops

now, yeah like it's It's too fast for anyone

who isn't extremely rich to keep up with them,

really. Yeah. I still have my Samsung plasma

of 52 -inch that I got, I think, in 2012, so...

I only got 50 -something I got last September

when my other TV broke. Almost went with the

plasma TV I was gonna get Samsung's last generation

the last generation plasma TV because it's like

one of the highest rated plasmas like ever but

Then Vizio trump them with the with the 4k not

only that they did They it's not edge lit like

most le le LCD TVs are it's um it's lit from

behind. It's a full array so Nice even lighting

across the back plus. There's local dimming involved

which means portions of the screen can shut off

independently of what else whatever else is going

on on TV in the picture sometimes you can see

it like during credits and stuff like that and

other times it's it it blends in really nicely

really depends on how well an encoding is on

on certain materials so but that's what I don't

know if you saw my my tirade my tired rant on

Twitter I guess about not being able to properly

enjoy stuff enjoy visual media anymore like I

just look at it and like critique the source

that it's coming from like the project is at

work I can see the pixels on the screen and that

really annoys me and when I'm at home I can see

the I'm trying to see if it's as you know if

the blacks are as black as they can be or is

the local dimming working the way that it's supposed

to and Like you open the Pandora's box of technology

and enjoy something for what it is. But when

your job is the presentation of visual media,

because I'm a projectionist, when that's your

job, you see things that other people don't see,

and then that just slowly permeates over into

the rest of your life. The only time I'm not

aware of what I'm watching, of the method that

I'm... viewing something is when I'm playing

a game because I'm actively engaged in what's

going on versus being like a passive observer

of a movie I might get bored with a movie and

be like okay how does this part of the scene

look how does that part of the scene look but

a video game I'm constantly involved in it so

I don't really notice a whole lot of stuff happening

that might be a testament to the quality of the

movie you're watching as well like if it's a

good enough movie it should be able to suck you

in Hopefully make you forget about other side

elements. If it's boring and crappy then you're

going to think about whatever. Right. The first

thing I did when I got the TV home and I hooked

it all up is I put in the Dark Knight because

that was one of the first Blu -rays I put in

the Samsung TV I had and it was the first and

as soon as I put that in the Samsung TV and I

watched a particular scene I was like oh boy

that looks awful. The rest of the movie looked

great. This one scene looked awful, and it showed

me the limitations of that type of a TV. And

so the first thing I did was throw the Dark Knight

in on this TV, and it didn't have any of those

problems. And I was like, oh, thank you. That's

like my gauge when I try out new electronic devices

popping in that Blu -ray. Yeah, there's a couple

that I put in, but that one, it showed an imperfection.

in the Samsung TV because it was an edge -lit

design, and I wanted to see if the rear, a rear

projection, a rear projected light source would

fix it, and it did. I was really happy with it.

So, anyways, I'm done babbling on about this

stuff. Someone else talk. Yes! Now that we've

lost all but the four kings of the world. I've

discovered how much I enjoy turtles. I've spent

the better half of the week because it's spring

break at school I've been messing with the site

stuff more and then also I've Because I'm taking

acting class or a theater class, whatever Got

the the one like the second scene figured out

of what I'm doing and then the we have to do

a monologue for the end of the class which the

class ends April 30th and it's not that much

further left. So like I've pretty much decided

I'm doing for the monologue thing I'm going to

memorize a scene of the jokers either from Batman

Beyond Return of the Joker during the flashback

scene where he dies or the scene where Where

he's doing the eulogy for Batman in the a man

who killed Batman episode Because you have to

pick like a sequence of dialogue that somebody's

continuously speaking for so many minutes with

No interruption. So has to be like one to two

minutes long. So then you have to find a monologue

and memorize it Yeah, it won't be too hard because

I'll have most of it memorized anyway Because

as soon as I throw out the Joker voice it pretty

much goes to memory if I do it in my regular

voice I won't remember shit That was actually

when I was in college Broadcasting kids kind

of volunteered For when the acting students were

auditioning to get into that program we would

tape their auditions Then sort of play directors

so they would do their monologue and then we

would just come up with something randomly Like

okay now do it in a British accent or do it like

you're speaking just to be personally and It

was basically just the test if they could if

they had it rehearsed exactly it only in that

one way and that was the only way they could

do the monologue or Yeah, see I'm going for the

media program at my college community college

and it's The the theater program is or this one

class anyways a part of the requirement For the

media program and I figured I like voice acting

anyway, so this kind of helps with that area

By learning actual acting so I I use either my

I used my joker voice to memorize the lines and

Then because our first our first dialogue or

monologue that we had to memorize and then recite

I Had to memorize and the first time I sat there

and did it for in the class I used the joker

voice which Not only kind of freaked me out because

I've never done any of those kind of voices in

front of like a large group of people But it

also showed me I could do the voice and then

I when I did it for the actual presentation of

it I changed the voice from that to case a case

them Well because I was trying to figure out

a way to not look at people and I was like well

I can pretend I'm I can talk on a microphone

and Then I can hold a blank piece of paper and

act like I'm reading off the paper So that's

what I changed the voice to so that I didn't

have to actually look at people when I did it

now I don't really care so much, but It's it

was just it was funny doing that But uh, yeah,

so that's that's what I've been doing I was trying

to narrow it down to a scene and Blanchard's

like you should do the part where waspinator

quits the the Predacons and Beast Wars and I'm

like, it's not long enough So I couldn't do it

plus it I don't really want to do a high -pitched

voice where everybody's going, hey. Like, what

did you say? So yeah, I've been doing that. And

then iTunes contacted me to, I don't know if

I mentioned it last week or not, but it may have

come up later, but I had to make 1400 by 1400

iTunes art for Legends of the Dark Knight because

they wanted to feature it in iTunes or they're

in the process of featuring it. So I thought

that was kind of neat But also in doing so I

looked up all of the geek cast radio shows on

iTunes and all of them had a blank label for

the picture other than the ones that were already

at 1400 by 1400 so I Had to make new art for

all the damn shows It won't be too difficult

for that. I had to resize images that were like

200 by 200 and 300 by 300 because I refused to

jump to the 600 sized art when they did that

and the 900 art. And then when they moved to

the 1400, I still refused to do it until they

started not showing the images anymore. So I,

it was just a, I don't, you know, like a giant

middle finger to iTunes because it was irritating

me. Because every couple of months or years they

change the standard so I just keep making them

in 300 by 300 just because Even though now I

have to do the other When I when I was doing

stuff I was getting emails telling me to do art

and 14 by 14 1400 by 1400 and the FAQ for iTunes

is said 1400 by 1400 for a few years now because

of the the retina displays Yeah, I know that

it's been around for probably like two three

years I just it was a blatant disregard and a

giant middle finger because I didn't want to

have to do it. Oh I totally understand that because

I already had all the art at 300 by 300 and I

didn't want to have to resize everything but

then Now that they're not actually they weren't

actually showing up in iTunes anymore. I kind

of was forced to do it Because now if I want

them featured in iTunes they have to be that

size so And I figured if they can't take me for

one might as well do them all That's the spirit.

Yeah, so I got all those done Also got to use

I get to try out Microsoft's one drive Which

is kind of like Dropbox, but they give you a

lot more space for free I Have 114 gigs from

them for two years for free before they knock

it down to like half so I'm currently dumping

all the archives of GeekCast Radio stuff off

my hard drive onto that. And it'll still sync

on my computer in a separate folder to the OneDrive,

but I figured as a way of... Because a lot of

times on my breaks or slow times at work, I mess

with all the site stuff or the podcast or the

art or whatever. And rather than have... Because

I've run into the issue where I have About five

to six different copies some of them older some

of them newer some of them the same of particular

files in various hidden folders of each other

that Make no sense how many copies I have of

things between my computer my flash drives and

my work computer. So I Figured this was a way

to synchronize everything and not have it Double

overlap so But I like the one drive I think it's

actually I kind of almost like it better than

sky Dropbox if it weren't for the fact that it's

slower with its upload and download speeds. Yeah

Is that a setting that you can tweak not really

I mean it lets you, and it could be because I'm

uploading such a massive amount. I had 39 gigs

I was uploading to it at one point. But it seems

like even a 100 megabyte file, when I'm uploading

that to it, it still takes longer than Dropbox.

So I'm not quite sure why. I mean I know it bulk

uploads to and you can uncheck it for better

performance. but it's still not any faster. It's

kind of weird, but I like the overall presentation

and the way that it's done better than Dropbox

in that sense. Plus, it seems like Dropbox seems

to have this issue where files just miraculously

disappear sometimes when nobody's deleted them.

Unless somebody's you know doing something they

don't understand so I got tired of losing certain

files What might have been happening with Dropbox

if someone like you might not have to delete

it But if you don't copy something on a Dropbox

like if you drag something out of the folder

to your desktop It removes from Dropbox like

it has to be in that folder for it to Which could

be, um, because, you know, we all share the one

GeekCash radio folder in Dropbox, so certain

files were just coming up missing constantly,

so I just stopped using it. Sorry, guys. We're

having fun over here. Stop looking at videos.

I'm telling you, okay, we have to move on with

this. I am bored to tears. I love you too. I

love you too deeply. stab you in the throat um

so uh i guess we should jump to like maybe the

4g 5g thing because since they're they're already

because that's not any less geeky yeah you know

what i just want my cell phone to work i would

like speed that i'm supposed to be paying for

to actually work and happen mind you i live north

of toronto aka in the middle of the friggin nowhere

Ontario, Canada. We ride like moose and polar

bears in school. I'm in an igloo right now. I

get relatively decent speed. I'm almost consistently

LTE for data. And it comes down pretty fast,

all things considered. I can surf Facebook, Twitter,

email. I can even watch videos from YouTube with

almost no buffering the odd time. I've actually

sat in parking lots and watched Netflix shows.

We have relatively no difficulty in almost the

middle of nowhere. But sometimes I'll go to a

larger city and my signal will suck. Yeah, we

have better internet up here than I have down

in Hickville. Which is funny because you live

right near some of the big telecom hubs, but

not near cell phone towers, which is funny. There's

a lot of cottages where I live as well, like

the Americans will come. up there during the

summertime, so you think they would improve the

internet and possibly install cable, but nope.

Which is kind of weird, because where I grew

up, for example, is in northern Ontario, and

we're near the second largest white sand beach

in the world, but it's called Sobble Beach. And

cell signal up there is absolutely atrocious,

and we have movie stars come there on vacation

for the summer. It always blows my mind about

why the technology has not caught up Up there.

I mean like if I can have LTE in the middle of

butt fuck, Ontario Why is it not in a major tourist

destination? Respond! So how inside baseball

do we want to get with this since we're boring

the two of us? Just surface. Super light man,

super light. Well, I just think this is it this

is just a Joke thing. I I mean obviously it's

coming. I mean everything there's always a nice

evolution of something. It's just I hate when

You see this all over techno all over in the

technology circuit like we talked earlier about

you know, like the I have a 4k TV, but there's

very little content for it outside of like Netflix

and stuff Not even blu -rays no no blu -rays

4k yet like there isn't a 4k It is not it's not

it is is remass it is a It is remastered to a

4k print and then pressed down to 1080p No, it's

not now there is there now there may be extra

detail or coloring in there because it's coming

from a better It's being compressed from a better

source But it is not a 4k file. It's it's still

playing at 1080p And I like I have the 4k Robocop

and I have the 4k Ghostbusters It's just the

they basically what the studio did they paid

for a 4k remaster of something That's what they're

using for all of their sources or for like the

foreseeable future so anyways There there really

isn't any 4k content out there, but here's the

thing like We can't even get Cable Comcast X

Fendi, whatever you want to call it AT &T you

verse Verizon and Time Warner, whatever you want

to call it. They can't even deliver 1080p content

over cable They can do 720p and 1080i, but nobody

can do 1080p yet like and yet here we have 4k

TVs that are gonna struggle with content outside

of like a blu -ray disc or streaming 4k through

like Netflix or Amazon like We have a Not a medium,

but like a technology that hasn't caught up with

The entire broadcast industry is now like at

least two generations behind because like I said

nobody's doing 1080p yet except for the streaming

guys Which make the cable companies look really

bad Now That that's kind of what's happening

here with the cell phone thing, you know 3g Which

everyone remembers just from like the iPhone

became 3g became like a thing with the eye with

the second generation iPhone You know, we kind

of we were kind of all that standard has been

hit and exceeded but 4g Was rushed out the door

before it was even ready to go and with the cell

phone carriers and they all adopted 4G except

for people in the know actually call it faux

G Because it doesn't live up to its promise and

LTE and 4G are actually the exact same thing.

It's just they It's just it's dumb they the So

LTE is more or less supposed to be what it's

actually supposed to be and 4g is the halfway

marker Yeah, essentially, but they're they're

the same. They're the same tech both of them

are supposed to offer 100 megabits per second

while moving so driving your car down the expressway,

you're supposed to get 100 megabits per second

and We talked about this off off air for a second.

We get like 50 and now they've now they're proposing

The next generation of this which is 5g, you

know, probably have some wicked cool name like

LTE That's 10 gigabits per second But yet we

can't even get one gigabit internet to the home

yet anywhere except for if you have Google Fiber

Yeah, what I have to say about all this technology

jibber -jabbering. I love tech Where's my flying

car? I have an electric car. I don't need your

flying car. You can have that. He doesn't use

gasoline. This is just another example of that.

Technology is moving faster than the people that

create the hardware. This is kind of different,

right? So the hardware isn't available to support

this stuff. So theoretically, they can throw

out any number they want because no hardware

is ever going to accept this. They could say

5G was like 20 gigabits per second. At the end

of the day, what's weird here is cell phone service,

the data you get on your phone, they never tell

you how fast it's going to be. They're just like,

you get on the LTE network. I've never seen AT

&T or Verizon tell you how fast their networks

are. You can find it if you can dig for it, but

they never tell you how much it is. It's weird

because when you buy internet service, you pay

for a speed. It's kind of interesting to me.

Yeah, I mean I hope that it I hope that it I

hope that it happens, but it's Yeah, I'm not

Also if we were this I'm sorry Steve this article

was this article also goes on to say that No

network in their right mind is gonna pay for

these upgrades if they're not gonna get new customers.

Oh Yeah, I mean just because you have the technology

theoretically ready to go There's still a hardware

cost associated with that, maintenance costs,

transition costs, and that's years of dedicated

work. That's not just as simple as walking in

and replacing a rack. You know what it's going

to be though. It's going to be, and I'm not saying

this because I'm an Apple fanboy or anything,

it's going to be a company like Apple who puts

this in their phone first and forces the carriers

to move over. Because say what you want about

Apple. They they make people do things. They

don't market. They really do. Like just just

as an example, like an aside here, my sister

is my sister's diabetic and she's she's always

asked me like, why can't my I don't know the

hardware for this stuff. She's like, why can't

my glucose monitor be my iPhone? Like, why can't

this thing transmit my information to my iPhone?

And she looked into it for that, though. Well,

because I'm diabetic, too. Well. There are apps,

she's looked into it because there's something,

at least down here, there's something with the

FDA. And they were getting in the way of that.

She couldn't, there was not a product she could

get in the US that would talk to her phone. It

would go, it could go to a website and then down

to her phone, but the pump could not talk directly

to her phone. And that's since Apple started

this whole health kit. thing in the last year,

that's like gone right out the window. Like there

are now she will be able to get a pump that will

be able to talk directly to her phone later this

year. And I have to think that's because Apple

started getting in the health game and Apple

has a lot of money to throw around. Well, yeah,

because like Apple has so much dominance over

the mobile market. I mean, and Androids. Taking

a very very strong heart right punch at them,

but Apple it's part of It's just part of the

consciousness of the consumer for a cell phone.

You think cell phone your first thought is iPhone

Well, I also think I think it goes a little bit

beyond just beyond the whole the brand recognition

I think it comes down to the platform too. I

think that because apple keeps everything you

know as a public -facing company apple keeps

everything locked down like nobody can play with

their phones unless apple says you can play with

their phones unlike like an android phone where

you've got five different manufacturers using

god knows how many different versions of android

that you know google might not be supporting

anymore with who knows what on them like that's

scary like i can understand like They don't have

they can't they don't Google doesn't have something

they can present to the FDA or these people and

say This is this is secure because chances are

it's only going to be the next devices that do

that But people are gonna there's no way they're

gonna let a Samsung Galaxy phone do that You

know, like the iPhone is an iOS is just such

a different platform. I Think it's just easier

to see Apple. It's easier for Apple to be like

this is why it works on our platform Like But

that and money Having more money than anybody

else that says a lot So So yes moving on to more

fun things for some people in the room Yeah,

there was an article about Star Trek, which again,

this concept can be applied to pretty much anything,

but they brought up the fact that a way to save

Star Trek is give it kind of the true detective

or American Horror story kind of thing. So the

anthology treatment. Yes. But would you want

that? I mean, I was I mean, we kind of have to

like. I think you'd have to see how it went as

an experiment first. As a series like Netflix

or Hulu should try it. Well, see, I know Heroes

was... See, here's the... This is the slippery

slope you have here, right? Because Heroes, the

original idea for it was to be an anthology series.

But fans fell in love with certain characters

that... Oh, came back to life in Season 2? Well,

that and, uh, Hero wasn't... You know, he was...

They were just those characters it was supposed

to be an entirely new set of characters in the

second season and people fell in love with the

with the characters from the first season and

It turned into what it was So it's it's just

one of those things it's like You just run the

risk of alienating an audience. That's one of

the things I praise about the BBC shows that

I watch, especially like Doctor Who. They recast,

essentially. A lot of BBC series, even their

comedy shows, stuff like The Office and a lot

of stuff Ricky Drew Base works on, it's sort

of planned out. to be an exact amount of episodes

and last a certain amount of time. It's not made,

and a lot of anime is like this too, it's not

made to just keep going forever. Whereas in American

shows there's this expectation that you keep

it going until people don't like it anymore.

poses the question do you think that with having

shows kind of not really have a set and you know

limited amount of episodes whether it be per

season or per series that it kind of just forgets

what the hell it started out to be nine times

out of ten usually i think with star trek for

example if they want to do the anthology thing

Maybe keep it set at one location To start like

everybody starts at Starfleet Academy See what

happens with it. Maybe change ships. Maybe you

could follow one crew member around I would love

a sci -fi anthology series, but not necessarily

Star Trek just that kind of a show like a Star

Trek ish show but that that cable style of like

10 to 13 episodes and then wrap everything up

at the end of it. What if, what if Star Trek

was an anthology series where each season was

from a different alien race? That'd be kind of

cool. Or it's one event and each season is showing

it from a different perspective. Sort of like,

let's say the Klingons go to war, you see it

from the queue and the Klingons are never in.

That'd be cool. That that's kind of like start

the recent Starcraft, right? Yeah Or here's one

one from one or each season could be from a different

era Like you can see one from the classic era

the Abrams first TNG or the current universe,

I guess Hell imagine a mirror universe season

Literally. Hey, we're evil. I Mean there is 50

years of trek and again, it doesn't necessarily

have to apply to only Star Trek But I think that

that may be the direction to go to kind of give

it a clean slate without really giving it a clean

slate I think the films Did kind of pump energy

back to it, but I don't think it's the right

kind of energy I don't know that I just I don't

know that I agree with that. I mean Yeah, it's

not it's not it's not Star Trek. Well, I'm not

even arguing the fact that Abrams made Star Wars

and in Star Trek, I'm because I've beat that

with a dead horse. I'm more so saying and I granted

I think it could have been better had Paramount

CBS actually given Abrams the reins to actually

do a TV show. But I think that what hurts Star

Trek is because this the bulk of the the progression

and story and the character development is in

the series Whereas in the film they're trying

to squeeze all this stuff into two and a half

hours And it just it doesn't really translate

well well They're kind of assuming you already

know who these people are well true, but but

we don't know who these new characters are Another

thing, too, is you look at Star Trek the way

it was in the 90s, the 80s, and the very early

2000s, sci -fi has changed and matured a lot

in that time. And I think of shows like, say,

Battlestar Galactica and Fringe, and some of

those shows that started treating their audiences

a little bit smarter. If Star Trek stuck to Mystery

of the Week, like a lot of the classic episodes

were, be like, hey, there's an anomaly on this

planet, let's send it away team, Rikers love

subplot, Data gets a cat, whatever. I don't think

that type of TV is gonna resonate with a new

audience. You need to tell us that's a little

bit smarter. That type of TV barely registers

with me now. Yeah, especially with the fact that

cable... has really, really taken off in the

last few years with stuff like Walking Dead and

Game of Thrones. It's not a niche audience anymore.

Well, kind of what's happened is it's given TV

like almost film budget to play around with.

And it's kind of helped TV grow to a new standard,

which, again, I'm not saying that, you know,

I'm not saying that Trek was great. back when

it was on yes they were memorable and in great

episodes but that's what they were is pretty

much standalone episodes yeah there was an overarching

like um gradual character development and in

story subplot going on but it was a lot of the

time it just there was a lot of garbage and throwaway

episodes and stuff that if they would have just

shortened it to shorter episodes and given it

a higher budget instead of making you know, 30

episodes a season, we could have ended up with

something as great as the stuff that we've gotten

in recent years. Yeah, like, for example, I'd

like to have 8 out of 10 episodes be fantastic

instead of having maybe, I don't know, say 8

to 10 episodes out of a 24 season order, or 24

episode season order. Like, it's a lot of throwaway,

it's a lot of who gives a shit. And that's one

thing, I mean, me and Steve, we're pretty hardcore

truckies, and we do Future Imperfect, but not

everything's a winner. And if you took it more

seriously, like Dave said, like, Walking Dead,

Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, whatever, I'd

rather have smaller seasons that have more impact,

and give me more character, than here's a whimsical

episode about a fucking holodeck. I think if

they were going to revive Trek for TV audiences,

I think they'd have to, one, you'd have to consider

the setting for the story. Personally, I think

it'd have to take some place between Enterprise

and the original series because you'd want that

edgier Wild West vibe going on. Kind of like

the original was back when it came out. More

exploration kind of. You'd want more exploration

less Diplomacy so to speak right you'd want that

or or you'd want it set after the next generation,

but with some type of intergalactic war Yeah,

kind of like Game of Thrones in space you yeah,

you would you would need fighting each other

Well, you could almost take like the point of

where Star Trek online. You know Like, almost

25th century, almost. Yeah, you need to be able

to set it up for some type of gritty conflict.

You know what? Give me section 31. There's your

show. Mix, like, Homeland with Star Trek. Do

you think audiences would be okay with making

Star Trek more 18 -plus rated if you were to

move this cable? Like, if you actually included

Doody in... I don't think that's necessary. I

don't think it would translate very well to Trek.

I think that it's more relying on its characters

and its intelligence level. But then again, think

about the romance subplots you could really carry

forward. You could, but again, you could kind

of pull it... You don't have to throw it in there

to insinuate that it's happening. There's other

things that I think that they could focus better

on if they were going to do it with Trek or really

with anything. I think that part of the problem

too is with reviving it is you'd almost need

to start out fresh with an entirely new crew

and not... dwell on anything from the past. I

mean, yeah, you could borrow the aliens and,

you know, referencing some things that happened

if you were going to... There's no more Kirk

bones or... Yeah, I mean, don't recast them,

don't rehash them, just move on. Yeah, I completely

agree, because you know what? That generation

that grew up with those characters, they're kind

of moving on, shuffling off the mortal coil,

so to speak. What if there was a series about...

uh con that might be kind of or have him as like

a reoccurring bad guy or a series that takes

place during uh the war that con fought in was

it the eugenics war the eugenics war yeah well

i mean you could even i mean and and that's again

kind of playing into the idea of you could have

each season be something different kind of like

the you know the american horror story and all

that kind of stuff you know a different theme

for each season and covering a different set

of characters every season so that it's not rehashing

the same crap over and over. Or you could do

the whole World War III thing or surviving after

World War III. I mean, you could have the eugenics

war. You could have the birth of Warp Drive and

the Federation. No, you can't undo the first

concept. You have to leave that alone. I meant

after. I just want to see them make that episode

and be like it's just a blank screen that says

insert first contact here. That'll just be the

second season right there. First contact. The

best thing about an anthology series like that

too is that you're free to do whatever you want

without worrying about consequences into the

second season. So like a show with Like Pargo

or American's horror story for instance they

freely kill off any character that they feel

like killing off because there's no Contractual

thing of like they have to come back for season

two so you can't kill Well, that's not entirely

true wise there That's not entirely true anymore

with American Horror Story Yeah, that's a bad

example. Freak Show is now tied to Asylum. Half

of the actors have been in every season. Well,

that's different. I'm saying characters that

were in Asylum showed up in Freak Show. Oh, okay.

I didn't know that. I haven't seen Freak Show

yet. So good. That's the other thing, too. American

Horror Story stands apart from the rest of these

because the same actors come back, they just

play different characters. I don't think you

could do... I think that's what people are talking

about. I think that was Star Trek, people. I

can see people getting really pissed with that.

I think that's why... He was a Klingon. What's

going on? Not that I think about it. I think

that's why the article referenced True Detective

because it is a true anthology series. No returning

actors. Yeah, it's just a complete redo at every

season. Same thing with Fargo as far as I know.

Yeah, that's the only thing I didn't quite care

for of American Horror String. It actually bothers

my wife, too, of the fact that they keep recycling

the same actors over and over. I mean, granted,

they play different parts and may look different,

but it's the same actors over and over. So like

you're constantly thinking about their previous

character. So I think that I think that if they're

gonna do it just a complete route, you know,

basically reboot every season would be sufficient

Are there any other classic shows you think that

would work under this particular model? I Think

heroes is gonna try it. I hope so I think that's

what the heroes reborn is it it had good potential

when it was out the first time and it's just

like you said they people get too attached and

then they Just kind of went with it instead of

doing what they were gonna do a lot of like the

series like I Love the series that I get mad

at because I just think they're so blah like

blacklist. I think a benefit from 13 episode

seasons It happens quite often all of them though,

that's that's the problem I think and and you

get Lot of good episodes, but then you get a

lot of the subpar and it's with every series.

It's not even Narrowing it down arrow. I think

it's a pass because if you think about it arrow

is essentially two TV shows in one Because you

get the island and you get the present day So

base and I think at the end of the end of the

day that comes down to 13 and 13 Arrow not so

much with the the first season was a little bit

more episodic But by this point every episode

is vital to the overall part of the series. You

can't miss an episode at this point. Right. I'm

just saying, like, the way it breaks down. It's

the same with Flash. You kind of almost have

to watch all that, too. I have noticed... ABC

has done this. I feel like... ABC's done it with

a couple shows. I know Once Upon a Time was one.

I was trying to think of another one. I think

NBC might have picked up on this. They're doing

full season orders for shows, right? 22 episodes.

but they're breaking them up into part one and

part two. So the first 11 episodes. I hate that.

I'm still waiting for part two of Mad Men. Well,

I mean, I'm not. But that's that's a cable thing.

This is broadcast. So they kind of give it like

they kind of change the theme and the villains

by the midseason. Exactly. There's a there's

an arc to the first 11 episodes that gets wrapped

up. And then when you come back after the midseason

break, there's another arc to finish out the

season. It's not it's not wait six months for

the rest of it. It's I thought you were talking

about how they split stuff in half No, I I feel

like I know ABC picked up on that I feel like

another another show that I watched did that

is like they she'll did it did it Basically,

yeah. Well, they do it they kind of do it. So

it has like a mini climax at the midseason Yeah,

once upon a time And then they have the big climax

at the end Once upon a time last season did it

did it differently so I shield I feel like shield

does that did the mini climax and then right

but I but once upon a time was definitely like

here's the climax for the first half of the season

and it's a big it's a big doozy that tails off

into basically what could be an entire other

12 episodes and it is but it's an entirely different

story I know there's another show that I watched

that did that, but I can't remember what it was.

I think that's interesting if you break it into

two parts like that. Well, Heroes kind of did

that with Season 4, I think. I don't remember

a whole lot of Heroes that wasn't Tyler. Season

3 had like two completely separate storylines

in it, and the second one was way better than

the first, in my opinion. Well, one might have

been coarser. That was a while ago. I'm trying

to think of other shows. Yeah, I don't know.

The thing is I watch a lot of shows right now

that are 13 episodes. There's very few that I

watch that are full. I wonder if you could almost

do that with, like, say... And this would just

be in creating other shows, but... Like superhero

groups, you could almost do that with, even.

Well, actually, me and Dave were talking about

this earlier. We recorded a bunch of DVD commentaries

today for... the Marvel movies, and we're thinking,

we're just kind of spitballing here, like, now

in Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. they're setting

up Inhumans, which is like four years down the

road for its movie, and there's a possibility

Inhumans could be the series finale in Agents

of S .H .I .E .L .D. Or the finale will lead

into that movie, kind of. And we're thinking,

what if they just created one Marvel show, call

it Marvels, have the entire universe involved

and if you want to do a different team or different

hero each episode or whatever or each season

yeah like follow here we're gonna follow daredevil

this year we're gonna follow the Punisher or

I don't know night thrasher from the new warriors

or something well you can almost do that as a

way to introduce characters too Each season and

then like you could build up to having like maybe

like, you know an X -Men team or an Avengers

team or Well a Justice League and then having

them all like maybe come back for a season. That's

what they're together. That's what the Netflix

series are It's um, there's there's Daredevil

there's Jessica Jones there's iron fist and Luke

Cage and there's gonna be a fifth season called

the defenders So they're already doing that.

It's just okay. It's just not on TV agents of

shield never lived up to at least what I thought

it was going to be and The only reason I say

that is because what I was basing the whole idea

on and I'm pretty sure I brought this up before

I highly recommend it because it might change

people's opinions on on agents of shield there

was a prequel comic to Avengers like there was

a is either six or eight issues a Prequel comic

to the first Avengers movie And basically it

was what Agent Coulson and Nick Fury were doing

during all of these movies. The whole behind

the scenes thing, it shows where the gun, like

him making, they took the Annihilator and made

the gun that he shoots Loki with. They show that

being developed and how Coulson got that. all

this all this really cool nifty stuff and agents

of shield has never lived up to that comic book

that six issue comic book agents shield has never

lived up to it and it's because they're not they're

not willing to let the big guys play in the little

sandbox that is tv uh or the big guys don't want

to play um although i i do think you'll see dr

strange in one of the netflix series i do think

you'll see that Because Benedict Cumberbatch

is a TV actor as well as a movie actor All right,

I yeah, I just have lots of problems they just

shield Disagree I think aspects of it have gotten

I can't even see the TV show to be honest with

you. It's too dark You know what that's to to

cover up for right the lack of money Yeah, yeah,

I know I was talking with the other last I was

watching I was like these guys look like they're

like at Sears portrait studios All I can see

are their faces There's nothing behind them No,

okay, there are projects that work within those

constraints But this is way different. The first

season of SHIELD was extremely well lit. You

could see the sets and everything. This one is...

You could tell they slashed the budget to keep

it on air. That's my big problem with season

two. They cut a lot of corners. And the whole

inhuman storyline, I feel like they effed themselves

up with that one. Because that movie is so far

away, if they don't keep the inhuman storyline

up, this season will have been pointless. And

because they they had to move they already had

to push it back again like another year I think

it's actually like five or six years out because

of the whole spider -man business So I'm pretty

sure that f -ed up. I wouldn't be I wouldn't

be surprised to see them like Dovetail away from

the inhumans thing not to mention I heard that

season two was supposed to dovetail into Age

of Ultron Which if that's the case, oh my lord

Agents of shield the first season had winter

soldier to Pick it up and give it a purpose They

make it good. Yeah this season two doesn't have

that like age of Ultron is not going to save

Season two of agents of shield it has to stand

on its own It doesn't need it because you know

what the Marvel license is so powerful, Agents

of S .H .I .E .L .D. keeps Marvel on the forefront.

If I was a TV executive, as long as the Marvel

movies are making bank, I'm financing a series.

Well, here's the problem. They haven't renewed

Agent Carter yet, and the ratings for that one

weren't that good. You'll see that at the network

up front or closer to May. I like Agent Carter

actually, I think even more than Agents of S

.H .I .E .L .D. And I like the idea of doing

mini -series like that instead of... A full show

or anything? Episode season yeah, that was a

nice break for shield having shield and then

having something right away I think that although

by the time shield came back. I completely forgot

what had happened in the last episode I was like

they better have a extra long previously on section

in this one. Well the thing is like three months

Agent Carter had worse ratings than agents of

shield so Which is be funny because I actually

watched that one when it was live instead of

I would not be surprised to see them both get

canceled. I would not I'll be more surprised

if they're renewed You know, you think you think

it you think that but they don't They like making

money more than they just like floating a project

So speaking it's good PR all things considered

I don't they don't need it They don't need it

to help with their movies at all. It does not

benefit them It doesn't do anything for them

that the mother to the kind of Netflix series

Because you're going to a very small subscriber

and it's not just that it's with TV. They're

trying to make money off of advertisers paying

x amount of money to put a commercial during

this program based on x amount of numbers of

people that are watching, so... As long as the

ratings are okay... I said I have unpopular opinions.

They're also promoting a property they own. I

just wouldn't be surprised to see it get cancelled.

Now, do you think Gotham will get cancelled?

I don't think so because... No, it was renewed

already. It was renewed. Oh, okay. My parents

watch Gotham. It's way too popular. I can't I

don't like Gotham is another show that this is

an unfair This is unfair No, not unpopular opinion,

this is an unfair comparison I was expecting

Gotham to be Boardwalk Empire of Batman characters

Garbage only all over the place and it just it

can't find its footing in that sense like it's

I the show that doesn't know what it is I want

to like the show because of what it's referencing

to everything but it's so far out in the timeline

game that I just never gonna get your payoff

I yeah I don't see it coming it's like to me

it's just kind of lost its luster to me anyway

the one thing that can save Gotham If in season

2 or season 3 they do a major time jump and age

all of the characters like five ten years Yeah,

five ten years instead of having it happen right

after this season so that you can get to like

Batman like Batman as like a teenage teens early

college years kind of age Instead of just Batman

being 12 then 13 then 14 See, Batman or Gotham

is an interesting experiment that I don't think

they thought more than this current season out

of. Especially because they keep throwing every

Batman character onto one season. Instead of

shows like Arrow and The Flash, they're teasing

stuff and they're... They're waiting to get into,

like, the bigger characters and whatnot. Batman

is just like, here's every Batman character,

all at once! Well, the thing that pisses me off

about Arrow is it's wanting to be Batman. That

doesn't even bother me. I don't mind it. I mean,

because I do pull it off really well. I love

Arrow, so I don't mind that at all. My thing

that irritates the shit out of me about that

show is the fact that they're constantly pulling

from the Batman rogues gallery. Well, that's

it's not really the Batman rogues gallery it

pretty much is like arrow doesn't have as big

of a gallery as Batman and Batman pretty much

fights anybody but again DC like or arrow is

more just pulling from the rogues that will face

off against Not sure. Yeah people like well like

anyone they'll face off against anyone within

the DC universe like in the DC comics Rachel

ghoul isn't just a Batman villain I realize that

but like some of the stuff that they're doing

with him and with the the whole A lot of these

plot lines with some of these villains. It's

very batman -esque and it's If you know that

and have seen it in the stuff it bothers Like

yeah, I don't I don't find that at all. But I

was an era of a green arrow fan before watching

the show so Yeah, I see it more from that perspective

Can I just say how crazy it's going to be if

Flash can pull off Grodd? Yeah. I think they

will. I'm looking forward to the Grodd story.

No, I am too. It's going to be amazing if they

can pull it off. If it's anything like the latest

Planet of the Apes movie, I doubt it. I would

be more than happy. We shall see. Dawn of the

Planet of the Apes kicked ass. Oh no, it did.

I like the New Apes movies. I'm just saying I

wouldn't expect that. I think that's going to

be a feat to pull off. I think so too, because

it's such an unusual villain. That's what I love

about it though. They're taking a risk. Yeah,

they're taking a risk with something really bizarre,

which is my problem with Gotham. I feel like

they're playing it safe with a lot of stuff.

They're just going with the characters you already

know and love. Well, it's the same reason why

you're never gonna see fucking man back in the

show. Oh, just too bad. I love man back. My real

problem with Gotham is just, I've said this from

the beginning and I say it mostly out of joking.

I've stopped watching Gotham, by the way. I stopped

after the break. I've got the whole PBR though.

The way the show is being set up and the characters

they're introducing, it just makes me feel like

adult Batman is just beating up a bunch of old

people. Yeah, well, that's the joke I've made.

I feel like I'm a Steve and a Blanchard. I'm

the Riddler! You're old enough for the senior

citizen discount. Sit the fuck down. Don't wonder

why you have a cane. Exactly. Or the penguin.

He's worried about getting a sunburn. And he's

so old. Like seriously, go home. It'll be Batman

fighting people at the retirement home. It will

be Batman 66. It'll be Batman fighting people

in their 60s. I mean, I like, I do like Batman

as a character. I think he's great. He's one

of my favorite superheroes, but you can have

bad Batman properties. Yeah. And I actually love

a lot of the cast members of Gotham as well.

Like Robin Taylor Lorder there. Yeah. What what

turned me off the most of Gotham was the complete

180 in one episode that Bullock took towards

Gordon Like he went from being like I'm you know

I'm gonna kill you if you step out of line or

you turn your back on me to you know Yeah, in

one episode. I was like what? Okay And it's a

show that doesn't know what it wants to be. And

I don't know if it's because they have too many

writers or... So bringing this back to where

it was, Star Trek, how to save it, what not,

I just think it needs to be planned. I don't

think you can wing it. And I would like to see

a 13 episode structure. I agree. You know what

show, I was actually kind of thinking about this

because we're mentioning other shows. That may

work or may benefit from this formula. I think

anything Detective baseball like I was thinking

about this area. I'm a huge fan of the Veronica

Mars property. I think that could work There

has been talks of bringing it back But not by

much They're probably waiting to see how it does

in terms of DVD sales. I would love to see it

come back, but not, yeah, not like a full 22

episodes. Yeah, just give me 10 and I'm cool

with that. Another show or another movie property.

There's been talk about this for the last couple

of years. It's the Friday the 13th franchise.

And they're talking about doing a show called

Crystal Lake Chronicles. Jason's just a recurring

villain or background character. But you get

a group of teenagers and it's supernatural happenings

around Camp Crystal Lake or Camp Blood or whatever.

I don't think that should be 22 episodes, but

a 13 episode miniseries? That could work. Well,

I love Bates Motel, so if a Friday the 13th show

is anything like that, like the The level of

cheesy, fun awesomeness that Bates will tell

is, I would be totally down for that. I mean,

you can even do Nightmare on Elm Street if you

wanted to, because they tried to do that with,

like, Freddy's Nightmares in the late 80s. And

Freddy actually appeared in, like, four episodes.

But he hosted each one. But it was a different

anthology. Like, it was a different story each

week. Like Tales from the Crypt? Exactly like

Tale of... Man, that's another show that should

make a fucking comeback. Or Twilight Zone. Just

that kind of show. Those would actually kind

of fit well nowadays. Are You Afraid of the Dark?

Oh my god, if you could make that... Well, considering

the level of acceptable violence that can now

appear on TV, you could do some really interesting

things with Are You Afraid of the Dark or Goosebumps?

I would love to just see a horror anthology show.

Goosebumps is a movie. I thought Goosebumps was

coming back to TV too. I'm not sure about the

TV, but I know about the movie. I just want to

see a horror or anthology show like The Twilight

Zone, or Tales from the Crypt, where every episode

is its own self -contained story, because that

seems to be a complete thing. There was a show

me and Dave watched years ago called Masters

of Horror, and it was on Showtime, and it was

fucking amazing! Like they took like they'd ask

a famous horror director like hey, Toby Hooper.

What are you up to? come out and direct a one

-hour movie and they let them do whatever the

hell they wanted to and Some of them were really

cool. I mean John Carpenter did one Toby Hooper

Robert Englund was in a few Like you know like

the horror genre begs for this and other others

too, but I don't know like I'd like to see more

horror anthology or more sci -fi anthology if

it had to go with a specific genre. But Star

Trek. Or do a horror anthology show where each

episode is based on a different H .P. Lovecraft

story. Oh my god, Steve! Most of his stories

are so short and self -contained you can get

away with that. And they're all kind of in the

same universe anyways, so it would work in that

kind of setting. Is there anything you guys would

want to see? Any TV show or property you'd like

to see take the Sherlock approach Where it's

three episodes that are 90 minutes each Because

the u .s. Doesn't have anything like that We

could do that with Friday the 13th. Yeah, I'd

be cool with that because the movies are each

like an hour and a half. Veronica Mars would

work like that. I can't see it working with a

big property like a Marvel thing because part

of the fun is building the universe around it.

I could almost see them doing that. Maybe with

certain characters like Punisher. Well, I was

gonna say with the new Star Wars movie coming

out I could see them doing that with like some

of the minor characters in the Star Wars universe

Maybe giving them their own hour and a half origin

story kind of thing Well, you can almost do it

teasing up a character to the next movie. Well,

don't forget Sherlock Well, it is you know, each

season is three episodes and they're each 90

minutes long. They are The first and second the

first and third episodes are essentially linked

together while the middle one is a throwaway

story With the exception of the last season where

all three of them were it was one continuous

story from the beginning to the end I Guess it

just depends on how you want to frame it, but

with this with Sherlock. It's they've usually

been Connected it's they're not they you know

there is character development from episode to

episode Just thought about this just right now.

Walking Dead side stories. Well, we're getting

that. Well, I mean more like I want to know about

Merle and Daryl. Oh, okay. Well, because there's

that they ordered two seasons of that spinoff.

Which I hope that doesn't suck, but I've got

my reservations about it. What spinoff? This

is the first I've heard about that. Really? It's

basically the plague as it starts. Oh. when the

zombies rise they're basically right at the beginning

of the plague and uh so 28 days later yeah kind

of kind of except you know that actually that's

a property i would love to see come back as like

a tv series oh my god that series was like and

we were supposed to get 28 months later 28 months

later has been tied up in development hell for

so long though i think I think Danny Boyle said

it's not gonna happen now. I think it's split

between two different parties and they don't

like each other. It's like Danny Boyle and the

guy he co -wrote it with and yeah, I don't know

if they're just not friends anymore or they disagree

on the property. Stop being a bitch. Or just

sell it to someone else who wants to make it.

Please, let that happen. I guess that's more

or less just walking dead anyways. But I think

that about rounds it up. Yeah, I mean, we've

been all over the place from tech to opinion

to... to opinion. I told you I was gonna throw

you some curve balls in here. I've learned a

lot today. As have I. So, before we go... Yes.

So basically, for the question, we can ask, what

show would you give this kind of formula to revive

it? So, since we've already kind of talked it

all out. Anything you guys want to pimp out before

we go? I'm doing a new show, which the latest

episode just came out on the website, called

Bossed Roll. Or it's my RPG stories from Years

past last episode. I talked about what I call

the Moss Isley poutine ery We're basically right

in the game master got you Weapons starships

and setting the Endor on fire You can find out

how that'll end and it up on this week geek .net

I've got nothing Yeah, we've been doing a lot

of movie madness and Mike and I just recorded

a bunch of commentaries So we want out today

actually for Friday the 13th We recorded another

one for the Friday the 13th. That'll have to

be happening in November we did a Avengers commentary

for when that movie comes out and a Jurassic

Park 3 commentary because it's the only Jurassic

Park movie. We haven't commented on yet for Jurassic

World Oh, and Terminator! So I'm not quite sure

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