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Episode 14, I am your host for this episode,

Michael Powers. I am joined this week as always

by Steve Megatron Phillips. How are you doing

today, sir? Good, how are you? I am good. Sorry

for leaving everyone in a lurch again after teasing

you guys the week before. I completely forgot

that I had made plans with a friend. months ago

to go see a Riftrax Live of Night of the Living

Dead. How was that? It was different. I mean,

for anyone that doesn't know, Riftrax Live is

basically the Mystery Science Theater 3000, guys.

Ah, okay. I wasn't sure what that all entailed.

I'd never seen a Riftrax. Oh, well... Obviously

they do come they do running commentaries for

movies You can actually download like a riff

track and you start it at the same time as you

start a movie And so they have a whole bunch

of them out there for different movies But this

one was live you went to a theater you went and

sat down your seat and it was streamed over a

satellite dish The guys basically they're somewhere

else. I think they said like somewhere in Texas

They basically stand up on a theatrical stage

and they're behind podiums with a microphone

and a bottle of water and to their right, in

this case, there was a movie screen and they

were playing Night of the Living Dead on it.

And they were in front of a live audience and

they were riffing on it while it was, you know,

live. nice so it was it was really interesting

sometimes like the night of the living dead filled

up the entire screen other times it was like

off to the side and you saw all three hosts sometimes

you just saw the host sometimes you saw the end

it was like kind of like watching a stand -up

comedy special where the camera the camera moves

around you see things and stuff like that so

it was it was a lot of fun i don't know that

it was kind of awkward for me because i don't

know that i've been in a theater where people

have Genuinely laughed that much before like

even in a good comedy It was it was interesting.

There was like a weird kind of energy It was

kind of interesting being in an environment where

everyone was just laughing because something

was really really funny Or witty, but that's

why I wasn't here last week And that snuck up

on me because of stuff I do know that Steve you

and I are gonna have to talk off air about recording

I think it is episode 16 because that is the

night that my wife and I are going to be waiting

for our PlayStation 4. Okay. But we can talk

about that off air. Sounds good. What have you

been up to this last week? I've been doing a

lot of prep work behind the scenes for various

shows, whether it be art stuff for MWIRE Weekly,

Altered Geek, the Top 100 animated film countdown.

I always want to say animated series of all time,

but that's because we did that two years ago.

I've been doing that, I've been working on the

year five GeekCast radio site still. I think

we've actually come upon a, for the most part,

agreement on the design to go with and the style

and everything else. It's just adding features

and functionality to it and trying to preserve

some of what... people like about the site and

trying to switch things up with our own personal

complaints we were having with the current design

so It's going to be interesting to see how this

new site is taken when it it gets Through our

our beta testing basically and Makes it through

to next year's release I've seen it guys. It

looks really good But I'm biased because Steve

is my friend I appreciate it anyway. Let's see.

I don't know if you want to talk to me about

Arkham Origins now or if you want to wait until

later. I think we'll wait till later. Okay. So

you want to get into the news? Sure. All right.

Let's see. What's the first thing we've got here?

It looks like we've got DC - Oh, sorry. DC oh,

no, it's fine. I was gonna say it's a lot of

DC Comics news. Oh boy So the last time we talked

about DC Comics, it wasn't so great DC Comics

is moving to Burbank to join DC Entertainment.

So does that mean they're relocating from? New

York. Yeah, they're actually going to be Closing

operations in New York and relocating the entire

operation in 2015, I believe it said. Consolidating.

Yeah, it's more so because Warner Brothers wanted

them to pack it up and come sit with them over

on the other side. Okay. Which to some degree

makes sense, considering that they all do the

same things, however. Because we have a couple

other articles lumped together and pretty much

the same. Setup There's a Marvel entertainment

guy I believe that Said something about it Joe

Kusada Yeah, that's that's his name. I didn't

know how to say his name, so I didn't want to

butcher. It's okay I probably butchered it too,

so don't worry about it Your guess is as good

as mine It kind of you know he was saying basically

it kind of sucks for some DC employees who will

have to decide whether they want to move or,

you know, take a leave from DC. But he said it

kind of sucks because New York's kind of known

for comic book territory. OK. Which I can kind

of see. Well, yeah, because everything, unless

it was Avengers West Coast, everything's kind

of set in New York or at least on the East Coast.

Yeah, I mean, it's it. Yeah, I kind of agree

with them there. I But then again, is it really

as big of a deal as Like a Marvel like Marvel

packing up and leaving New York because DC Doesn't

and I could be wrong. I don't read a lot of DC

Comics. They don't bother with real -world cities

No, they they're all pretty much created. I mean

you have Bloodhaven you have Which is like Chicago

you have metropolis, which is You know, like,

almost kind of like a Manhattan, New York, and

then you have Gotham, which is kind of like Detroit,

so it's... You know, you have your... wannabe

versions of the same cities, it's just different

names. Right, right, right. Like I said, I'm

not a big DC guy, so I tried reading... I'm still

trying to read the New 52 comics. I still have

them on my iPad. They're taking up an awful lot

of space on there. I'll say this about the new

52. There's some love and some hate with it.

The pre -new 52, was it perfect? No. Was there

a lot of random continuity screw -ups? Yeah,

but so is there with the new 52 because some

of it's still pre -new 52 and mixed in there

and it's convoluted as all hell. I kind of enjoy

the new 52 to some degree I'll be honest after

the death of the family plot line in Batman primarily

in Batman I have not been thrilled with the zero

year up until issue 24 where he actually puts

the cowl on okay and now I'm re enthused with

the Concept of the zero year it gave me a reason

to actually give a rats behind again Because

it's more origins and that issue than just Batman

and then For me, I've been more so sticking with

detective comics because I kind of like the direction

that's been going so And you have wrath who's

another billionaire just kind of the opposite

side of the coin of Bruce Wayne But it's kind

of interesting in itself. So All right. Well,

like I said, I'm trying to read it I don't know

if I'll get back to that keep between my new

job and game and you know some games here and

there I and my entire backlog of TV shows. I'm

getting Getting swamped and stuff. So I think

comics have taken a backburner again, which sometimes

it bums me out but Not not so much. So You can

always marathon through them at one point. I

can try when I'm not marathoning through TV shows

on the weekend. True. I looked at my I looked

at my download total for TV shows or the the

the RSS feed that I use I think I'm up to like

66 TV shows throughout the year and most of them

are on right now and it's just it's getting kind

of stupid because it's like I want to do something

and then it's like I gotta get I gotta watch

these shows So, I don't know. And then part of

me had to sit back and go, is there a point even

watching all these shows? Do I even remember

what happens in each show? And remarkably, yeah,

I do. At least the ones that aren't train wrecks.

Yeah, I can actually remember enough about them

to actually talk about what happened to them.

But that's okay. That's kind of the same thing

with me. I watch so many I mean I don't watch

quite the amount of shows you do but the ones

I do watch throughout the year I can somehow

keep the continuity together and my wife and

I sit and argue about what we think happened

and I'm about 95 % of the time right right This

next piece of news the Batman versus Superman

news about the Office of Michigan. I'm kind of

surprised you went with this one over the Batmobile

news, unless you guys covered that last week.

We covered that one last week. Oh, bummer. I

mean, we can still talk about it. I love talking

about the Batmobile. Well, I was I'm actually

OK. I apologize. I did not have not had a chance

to listen to the last episode yet. What was the

I guess like what's the you know, it's the fact

that GM is designing the Batmobile. Well, the

gist of the whole thing is it's a, and I'm gonna

pull back up the link and send it to you so you

can look at it too, there is a Cadillac, a particular

model of the Cadillac that they're going to be

using for the Batmobile. Is it the updated XLR

based off of the Stingray Corvette? No, I I've

actually seen that that is a crazy beast on the

inside somebody traded one in Surprisingly enough

stingray No, I've seen the stingray brand new

on our lot. It's like 80 grand car thing is sick.

It's Definitely sick. I've seen the the Cadillac

Though and it's a lot of those are decked out

too No, but this one is actually a It's to resemble

an older Cadillac. Basically, it's being designed

by the GM Advanced Design Studio in North Hollywood.

Oh, that's the new DeVille. It's the one that

they've done the Transformers 4 stuff, because

they're not going for the Tumblr look or whatever.

No, they're not going for the They're saying

that it could be modeled after the 1943 Cadillac

convertible, which I don't think it should be

There's that more streamlined Cadillac 16. Yeah

Which if you kind of look at it and if you added

some it's the Batmobile you want Steve know if

you add some slight bat fins to the rear end

of it and you add a little you know a little

bit of the flair of the Batman the animated series

you pretty much have the Batman the animated

series car see what that that's kind of what

I was gonna get at I was gonna say that I think

you're gonna get the batmobile that you want

to see and I think that I'm like first of all

I've said it before I'm a huge fan of the tumblr

I Didn't really care for too much. I mean obviously

Tim Burton's batmobile is iconic, right? But

oh yeah, it's it's it that the tumblr and the

66 batmobiles are the most iconic the well I

would throw the animated series batmobiles in

there, too Well, I'm as far as live action. Yeah,

but I was taking I was taking the batmobiles

as a whole I think that But I I would take the

tumblr and then the animated series and then

everything else And I was thinking that you know

because the stingray is like a thing that just

came back and it looks disgusting and I think

I was actually that's what I was actually going

to say is that I think they're going to you know

work an XLR or a stingray into a batmobile and

That's what you're gonna get the I think it'll

look more like the new adventures of Batman That

will be like the one from the Justice League

Yeah, I I don't have a problem with that one,

but I personally like the other one much more.

I agree I'm hoping that they go with that kind

of 92 Batmobile kind of style and if they go

with the Cadillac 16, it's gonna look pretty

close Pretty comparable anyway, but yeah, that's

that that's I was drooling when I saw that information.

I've asked my dad to see if he can find anything

else about this. And if he does, yeah, I will

try and share what I can without getting him

in trouble. So but yeah, no, I'm excited. I'm

excited to see what they do. It's interesting

to see. I mean, granted, I think GM is starting

to make horrible cars again, or at least it.

Cars that are too expensive again. Oh, yeah,

I won't deny that they're too expensive. Are

they nice? Yes Are there a lot of excessive features

that they don't need? Yes, but it's not even

that like I don't really want to get in a car

conversation But it's they're not even like it's

not that they're Here's the problem. I can get

a Ford Focus fully loaded With you know, the

the the Microsoft sync and all that stuff in

it for less than I can get a loaded cobalt and

our cobalt Cruise less than then less than I

can get a loaded cruise for That and it has the

the Ford has more features like I don't Well,

that's what I don't like is that they they they're

not even they don't even they're not even like

competing with other car companies and they're

like Their stuff is like a higher price for less

Toys, I don't well it I will not fight you on

the cruise we were originally were going to buy

a cruise before we bought the sonic the sonic

was actually the same price as the stick shift

base model of a cruise but the sonic was decked

out it was like an LT or LT2 nice and we paid

the same price as what we would have paid for

a stick shift base you know no CD player cruise

And it's got Bluetooth, XM, OnStar, like a lot

of the USB. You plug in your MP3 or your phone

to it. I mean it's... Right. And it's in 2012.

But I've also seen the new Impala that just came

out because the old Impala... I'm in love with

that car. The old Impala was a pile of garbage

and it should have been shot three years ago.

but Because it wasn't even comparable to anything

out on the market even Chevy's other lineup,

but The new Impala. It's just sick. How much

stuff is I like the new like okay? Here's the

thing. I love the look though Well, so do why

because one of my favorite cars? Ever and I'm

not a big car guy so anyone listens to this that

is they can laugh at me all they want one of

my favorite cars That jams made in my lifetime

That was the 94 95 96 Chevy Impala the one based

off of the Caprice like the Caprice. Yes You

know, the funny thing is is they have the Caprice

again Well, yeah. Yeah, it's a it's a cop cruiser,

right? but I I like the I like that Impala and

It went away and it came back and like the early

2000s as the piece of you know, the the junk

car that just left I The newest one seems to

recall more of the 95 96 Impala than the previous

one, which is great because One just looks awesome.

And then the other one just looks awesomer So

but at the same time that's like my favorite

car and oh they have a brand new one and I was

like I'm gonna go look at this because they're

like Chevy more affordable blah blah blah Go

and look at it. And the one that I would want

is like still like way out of my price range

I'm like, holy 38 grand I'm just like jeez. I

mean maybe I could lease one, but I'd rather

lease a volt before I leased an Impala Well the

thing is is what they don't want to tell you

is there's no Rebates for anything. They won't

have any rebates until the first quarter of 2014

the GM discount doesn't even apply It it does,

but you're not gonna see any kind of price cuts

until 2014 on some of these models. Well, that's

fine. I mean, I'm just, I'm very interested in

it because I like the way that it looks. I like

the wheels that they chose for it. For some reason,

a car to me can be made or broken just by the

wheels. Oh, yeah, you can tell if it's, I mean,

if it's got cheap looking wheels. And granted,

I'm not a car guy either, for the most part.

I'd like certain models, certain cars. Like I

like the Kearney Quinox. I like the Kearney Impala.

I don't mind the Sonic just because it's an affordable

thing. for the features, but I work at a car

lot. Doesn't necessarily mean I care for the

cars, so. Right, no, I used to, like I think

we talked about before, I used to work for Superior

Pontiac, so used to get to drive around all the

cars too, so. All right, so that was a long tangent

about cars when we were just trying to talk about

Batman opening up production design and offices

here in Michigan. Yeah, they're opening a production

office at Raleigh Michigan Studios in Pontiac

Which they've also picked a production designer

who did stuff for 300 rise of an Empire I robot

in Independence Day Okay, I I liked I robot in

Independence Day So I mean I could definitely

see the you know kind of scope of the type of

action if they're you know What they're going

for? And I could see it being plausible with

this. Right. Kind of makes me want to actually

go down there and like stalk them during the

time though. Because I kind of know roughly the

area that that's at. So. I could be wrong but

I think my employment at the theater being union

-based, I think I could get into that production.

I think. I think. I don't know for sure because

it's never actually happened But the that would

be interesting. It's i'm not it's not just a

projectionist unit union that i'm in there They

were also at one time. They were like the guys

that would do The lighting and all that stuff

at uh at like whiting the whiting auditorium.

Oh nice They would handle all like that stuff

and help with the stage work. So I believe some

of that stuff is still a Thing i'm not i'm not

entirely sure and I might not even be like employed

with the union long enough to even do that but

um no that that would be that would be neat because

i remember i had conversations with you know

the the union president the business agent like

three years ago when michigan first decided it

was going to open up some kind of production

thing in in Pontiac um but uh yeah those conversations

never went anywhere because i don't i think this

may be the first movie to actually use it i know

there are other movies that were shot no um The

Oz the Great and Powerful used it. Oh, okay.

Well, I think that was the last one to use it

And I think I want to say that Transformers 4

is going to use it as well All right, let's see

Did you guys talk about the new the supposed

look of the new batsuit in the last episode the

shorter years Oh, I think we briefly talked about

it if we did it all. I know it more so had to

do with... No, we didn't talk about the last

episode, I don't think. I did read that they're

contemplating going for either the New 52 look

or the Batman Noelle. Okay. which I wasn't familiar

with the Batman Noel style bat suit but I guess

that's what they're really leaning towards as

of right now the the new cowl and the suit will

take cues from that okay which I I mean I looked

at the imagery from from that comic and I don't

have a problem with it it doesn't look like it's

all battle armor either hmm it doesn't look like

it's you know the the tights or any of that kind

of stuff either but it's it's kind of like I

don't know it could be some kind of a happy medium

between the two right right right right okay

um Earth's first city of the future coming in

2017 but not to America because we don't have

time for this stuff No, we've got we've got other

problems like you know trying to figure out how

to push the the deadline for the budget in another

three months No, we're too busy bombing countries

like this Yeah, that's true instead of actually

you know coming up with ideas to revolutionize

things It looks cool. It looks like they're trying

to go for that Dubai stuff Yeah I guess it's

actually looks like Disney World With Epcot Center.

Yeah, but it looks like a futuristic Epcot, with

a nice blue light special in the middle. Yeah,

I always thought Epcot Center was just a giant

golf ball. I did too. I thought everything was

inside it at one point before I actually went.

Boy, was I wrong. Actually, this also looks like

it could be an Olympic city or an Apple campus.

Well, the funny thing is, I guess they want to...

try and turn it into a place for the 2017 Olympics

or something. Okay. Or some kind of an expo that's

supposed to be around at that time. But I guess

that the site breaks ground next year. This is

one of those projects where I wish Discovery

Channel, Learning Channel, Stuff like the History

Channel. I wish they still had like actual TV

shows rather than the reality stuff because you

know they'd be doing specials on the construction

of this. Oh, I know this. I think this would

be really interesting and kind of motivate people.

And I actually I kind of chose this because I

was I stumbled upon it somewhere and I was like,

you know, this would be a nice break up for all

the movie and TV stuff that we've been doing.

I'd love looking at this stuff. I I have I like

like the the Tower of Dubai and The Burj I can

never figure out how to pronounce I know it's

B -U -R -J the Burj Dubai like the world's tallest

tower Like that thing that that's awesome. I

love great work projects Or great works projects

like, you know the tallest building or like the

biggest wall the biggest dam like I love stuff

like that. Do you remember the show Extreme Engineering

on the Discovery Channel? Yeah, I vaguely remember

it. I didn't actually watch it, but I remember

seeing the commercials for it. They have the

first season on Netflix or something like that,

and they cover building rail bridges underwater

between here and Europe and all these other just

crazy, crazy things. I just... Love this stuff.

I like I like it when people Like bridges that

you know that stretch for miles. It's like I

just I like the people I like that human beings

can The best of us can see a problem and just

like not let it get in the way It's just kind

of like how are we gonna bridge just like the

Mackinac bridge? Amazing You know, but that's

just here I mean Like I love watching documentaries

on like the empire state building and then stuff

like that and I just it's crazy So this this

kind of stuff is really neat there was um trying

to remember another another show that did that

um They they brought up the I can't remember

the name of right now. I'm I I know there's another

one's like called biggest like Tallest longest

biggest or something like that and they followed

like the evolution of something over time like

planes They started with like the biplane and

they worked their way all all the way up to like

the giant like the a330 Airbus planes Oh nice,

and they show like the evolution like why did

they do this? Why did they make that step? Why

did they do that? And they they did one for like

the world's tallest buildings and they started

with like a one -story house and Then they moved

up and they showed like with the advent of the

elevator buildings could be over five stories

tall and then of course they of course they moved

on to steel frame construction and it's and they

did you know they do the same thing for boats

and and bridges um it was it all that stuff is

just really neat to me it's all it's all useless

information unless you're having like this kind

of conversation uh but it's just it's it's fun

i i honestly think that this Design kind of looked

like something you'd watch on one of mainframes

cartoons the reboot That's yeah, that's true.

Okay. I accidentally scrolled down to the comments

on this article Was that actually in there? No,

someone has a picture of the Hoff base the laser

cannon the ion cannon from Hoff In there I see

that That's funny That's not a moon. That's an

expo center nice Bad puns, but it's still yes.

Yes. No, but I think that because they're talking

about having a clean energy grid They kind of

and that they're talking that you know this could

possibly be like a start of a third Industrial

Revolution in essence because it's All clean

and new I Don't know I kind of am looking to

see how this turns out because they're talking

about Like a renewable clean energy, you know,

like smart energy grid that it kind of And then

it has like kind of an energy internet type thing

is what they're talking about. Hmm Kind of interesting

concepts. I don't know how it would be applied

but Right. I think that if this is successful,

I think that we could easily apply it to our

dead and dying cities, you know, like Detroit

and... Yeah, right. Yeah, I know. That would

never happen. Most places... They bulldoze it

to the ground first. Most places can't even get

decent internet. There's no way we're gonna end

up with something like this. It's sad when other

countries are even that Google setup that you

and I had talked about before. have faster internet

speeds than what anybody else has at this point.

Was it OCP? Robocop? It's like this is what Detroit's

supposed to look like. Yeah. I wonder if that

was actually like some kind of an influence.

Who knows. I don't know. I'm chalking it up to

it's from Reboot. Moving on. Alright, looks like

you've got some Transformers news here. Yeah,

I figured since all things transformers is pretty

much I thought you were still on the fence about

that one. I'm still on the fence, but it's I'm

probably gonna kill it Yes, I made that public

I'm probably gonna kill that don't worry guys

I'll let him talk about transformer stuff here.

Let him like it's my show Yeah, it's not like

I'm gonna talk about that much of it because

I'm not into the whole rumor mill all that much

Yeah, they have a Transformers 4 Age of Extinction

They have Basically caught Peter Cullen voicing,

you know, which everybody kind of knew he was

going to be back anyway but then They were saying

that some of the the audio might be spoilers

for closer to the end of the movie and Then of

course they they also have in the kind of the

same vicinity of the the news character renders

of everything He's actually look kind of cool.

I'm kind of excited because they took the designs

of Prime and bumblebee from the previous sets

of movies, and it looks like they mix them with

transformers prime yeah, this looks more like

a Okay, because a lot of people complained about

Baze transformers being overly complicated These

actually look a lot smoother and simplified Yeah,

I was gonna say they look more like they could

be for an upcoming TV show than for a movie like

these don't I mean obviously there's your simple

renderings simple quote -unquote, but I Feel

like these are too simple for a theatrical release

like I Could be it could be wrong and they might

look different when they're like on film with

grain and Other special effects added in there

and stuff like that, but just just looking at

these photos They look like they could be for

an upcoming TV show Which I wouldn't put it past

it because I know that Behind the scenes somewhere

they're actually gonna resurrect Transformers

Prime With a new TV show eventually and it's

pretty much gonna be the same characters coming

back so you know infer to that what you will

but If these are the transformers for designs,

I can't say that I'll be disappointed No, I wouldn't

either I'm just they I mean and I agree they

do look you know a little simple for the the

film universe, but I Would take this version

of prime over the ones we had in the previous

trilogy. He's almost looked like they could be

toys Like just mock -ups of what the toys should

look like Well, like if you look up at the top,

there's this They've got that picture, you know

says transformers movie for phase two And it

says fall winter 2014 licensing style guide Yeah,

that could be it just seems more like it might

be for toys or t -shirts or something like this

like the movie may have They may look like this

in the movie, but I think in the movie they're

gonna come out more complex That's possible.

I kind of hope that they would change prime and

make them look like When he got reformatted in

Transformers Prime, I haven't gotten that far

in prime yet. It's he's kind of a badass When

he gets reformatted, it's not it's complicated,

but it's not it kind of gives him a little bit

of the g1 vibe but Keeps it kind of I don't know.

It's like a power master slash Transformers Prime

slash generation one, right? but anyways, yeah,

I Kind of dig in the designs once I saw these

All right So it looks like Harrison Ford thinks

everybody wants to see Indiana Jones 5 and he

has twisted Disney's arm into Putting Indy 5

in production. Otherwise, he won't show up in

Star Wars Episode 7 What a jerk That's kind of

a dick move I think people care more about one

than the other, especially, well, I was gonna

say especially after the fourth one, but then

again we've had three extremely mediocre Star

Wars movies. I think it's gonna be kind of a

toss up there because I mean I'll argue, I mean

I'm not a big Indiana Jones fan, but I kind of

like the first three. The fourth one is like...

Mike would say, Blanchard would say, as far as

DCAU type stuff, Teen Titans is not in continuity,

well, you know. I really don't want to go down

this really long rabbit hole with this, but are

we entirely sure Teen Titans is not in continuity?

Are you like 100 % positive on that? I'm not

100%, but it's not a Burst Tim production. So

technically it's not continuity because it's

not it's not for one. It's not his animation.

It's not his team Well, it's so it's the it has

to do with some of the same characters that show

up at some point Mostly the Robin character the

rest of them don't actually make any kind of

an appearance But it's also supposed to be kind

of a Dick Grayson Right, the art style isn't

that far off though. I mean, I know that yes,

it does break off into the wacky side -skit stuff

and the over -the -top, you know, anime cues

here and there and stuff like that. It does get

a little wacky. It's not... The theme of the

show isn't as... Isn't as tonally serious as

the Timber stuff is. But I really never saw it

and plus I actually really enjoyed that show

some of the stories they they told in it I could

it it could go to a very dark place. I actually

watched it because my friend was really into

it and he Suggested it to me, but I Never got

into it, but that has nothing to do with saying

it's out of continuity. It's just It's I think

it could have a place there, but being that Dick

Grayson's actually Nightwing And you know are

he's older in the show so I mean it's I mean

it would have to take place before the entire

DCAU if that were to happen. Well the other thing

with the other thing with Teen Titans is they

never say who that Robin is. They hint at it

later it's Dick Grayson. They hint at it a lot

of times but they never actually they sometimes

they hint at Tim Drake sometimes they hint at

Dick Grayson. It's it's never been confirmed

as to who it is. At least not that I've seen

not not in the show at least maybe like in an

interview with somebody it was confirmed, but

I Do remember I do remember in one show vaguely

like Dick Grayson like there's something he was

getting His head messed with or something like

that or someone was diving into his mind and

Dick Grayson scrolled across the screen backwards

That would probably be the most telling part

of it but You know that i don't think they ever

come out on the nose and say which robin he actually

is Especially since he has the staff and he's

definitely wearing tim drake's outfit Yeah, I

mean that's I I kind of can see that too but

Who knows? Yeah, but like I said, I didn't want

to go down the rabbit hole I just wanted to see

like and I understand people not liking it and

stuff because it gets kind of It does get kind

of wacky, but it also can go to some more dark,

serious places too. I would take that one over

to Teen Titans Go though. Yeah, I haven't checked

out Go yet. I probably won't. It's stupid. I've

caught one by accident. It was after Beware of

the Batman, before they decided to kick that

off TV too. Going back to the Indiana Jones discussion,

I was comparing Indiana Jones to Star Wars. I

wasn't comparing the first three Indiana Jones,

saying that they were mediocre. I was saying

the last three Star Wars movies were mediocre.

No, I definitely agree with that. I would not

question that. I don't think that... The new

trilogy needs to focus primarily on those on

Hamill Fisher or Ford But I think that they should

at least have a place in this episode 7 to kind

of you know a handoff Yeah, handoff. I could

see it working that way. I mean Hamill I think

should be in the entire new trilogy Even if he's

kind of like the Obi -Wan Yoda role You know

kind of there if they need them kind of thing

and and for guidance, but not really all that

important I guess I could kind of see him, but

the other two were kind of after the episode

7 I kind of find them irrelevant Okay So if you

had to keep anybody from the original trilogy

I would say Hamill But other than that I wouldn't

keep anybody beyond episode 7 okay But I think

it's kind of a dick move for him to twist Disney's

arm like Yeah, I'm not gonna do this job unless

you give me my other job that I like better,

you know Yeah Which nobody cares about at this

point because they you know, it's kind of you

know adding Shia LaBeouf didn't help Yeah, I'm

not saying I wouldn't care, you know to see him

play some of his old roles again But I don't

think anybody honestly cares at this point about

Indiana Jones? No. I mean, Indiana Jones was

never a thing for me. I believe we either talked

about it on MY or I talked about it here. It's

like when you grow up, well at least when I grew

up, with my group of friends, there was definitely

like, there was a moment in our lives where our

parents set us down and said, you need to watch

this trilogy or you need to watch this trilogy.

And for me, my parents set, or my dad set me

down and made me watch Star Wars. And for some

of my other friends, they made them sit down

and watch Indiana Jones, and for some of my other

friends, their parents made them watch both of

them. So I have a strong love for Star Wars,

but no real dislike for Indiana Jones, and some

people really like Indiana Jones, and some people

really like both of them among my friends. I

don't know. Yeah. Did you hear that, and this

is kind of somewhat new, You know while we're

talking about this. They're already talking about

delaying Star Wars episode 7 till 2016. That's

fine Which I'm fine with if they can manage to

do it, right? I question I always I'm wondering

what I Don't know I always I use that too I use

that I use that phrasing too like oh, it's fine

If it was as long as I can do it right, but what

quote it's kind of weird like Yes, of course.

If they can do it justice, I think it has a lot

to do with the fact that they've finally hit

on the writing team. Right. And they've come

down to the conclusion that they're going to

pick the guy that helped write part of the original

trilogy, which I think helps things drastically

because out of the films, I think he would be

able to help more so with passing the torch of

characters he actually wrote for. Right So I

the other thing that would be kind of odd is

it would be pitting it against Star Trek 3 or

13 Huh because that's set for a 2016 release

as well Hmm but yeah, I don't know that's I don't

know that's that's still a kind of rumor speculation

plus Marvel's gonna have whatever they have that

summer and DC will probably have something that

summer. Well, let's just face it Marvel's mopping

the floor with anything Disney's come out with

Marvel is the only like moneymaker for them that

they've managed to you know Out of everything

they've had so far since they bought Marvel.

Yeah, I think that's because they Johnny Depp's

gotten old or The Jerry Brockheimer movies haven't

been as popular as they once were I think Don't

know I I Think I think some of their they're

more family -friendly and I don't mean that Marvel

stuff isn't family -friendly But I think some

of their more family ferrets still does fairly

well I mean, yeah, it's not you know blockbusters

like the Avengers with you know billion dollars

here and there but I don't think I don't I really

The Marvel stuff may bring Disney more money,

but I don't think it's definitely not Disney's

only source of revenue It's just the biggest

dollar amount. It's Like per per movie. So yeah,

I guess I yeah, I see I guess I see what you're

saying. I just I Don't know. I still I sometimes

I don't really think of Marvel's being a Disney

thing until we actually sit down and start discussing

It as like yeah, it's a Disney thing Great so

All right Last little bit of news here. It looks

like We can just kind of talk about these really

quick Six movies that are inexplicably getting

sequels a decade later. This list comes from

cracked number six a sequel to movies that I

have never seen Beverly Hills Cop It's getting

a fourth one. I I like the That series I I would

watch it. I just I've never I've never been,

I mean, I am aware of them, I've just never been

introduced to them. I have them. I think that

they're pretty good. I'd rather watch that than

watch, say, like, Lethal Weapon or something.

Just because, I mean, I like Lethal Weapon, don't

get me wrong, but I'd rather watch this just

because I find it more entertaining. It was back

in the day when Eddie Murphy actually was good.

Now that he's not in his prime. It's like all

the action stars or all the guys that were big

in the 80s. They're going back to what actually

made them money because they suck at everything

else that's out nowadays. Well, I don't know

about that because Schwarzenegger and Stallone

can't seem to make money on anything that isn't

expendables. Well, that's that's still kind of

playing their 80s personas I Mean I'm saying

that they have to play their kind of original

roles in order to actually Okay, get a film where

people will want to see it. I know you're saying

they have to return to the original properties

got you yeah, they have to like if they're going

like the the the new Schwarzenegger movie and

Stallone movie that came out beginning of the

year Nobody really gave a rip about them and

then What was it the escape plan? Yeah I've seen

that that's Not bad. It's like a like another

kind of a different take on Shawshank except

you have guys that are like Kind of crazy and

bulky and everything but Speaking of Eddie Murphy

and Arnold Schwarzenegger, number five, Triplets,

which is a sequel to Twins, which was released

in the 80s, yet another movie I've never seen.

I don't give a crap about this one. Okay. I didn't

like the first one of that, so I wouldn't watch

the second. Moving on to number four is Army

of Darkness 2 or Evil Dead number four. Here's

something interesting. I have never made it to

Army of Darkness. I've watched Evil Dead and

then I watched Evil Dead 2 and I stopped because

Evil Dead 2, in my opinion, is essentially a

remake of Evil Dead with more money. And I know

that Army of Darkness, you know, that there's

something completely different happening in Army

of Darkness. I've just never sat down to watch

it. So, we'll have to see what's happening. I've

never seen any of them, nor do I care to. I do

like Bruce Campbell though. Yeah, I like him,

but that's about the only saving grace for that.

Number three is Beetlejuice 2, because even directors

need to go back to where they got their stuff

from. Because everything they've done recently

sucks. And Michael Keaton will probably reprise

his role as long as he gets to wear the makeup.

So no one can see how old he actually is. Well,

I read, I've been reading a lot lately that even

when they're asking him about Batman stuff, he's

been saying that he wants to do a sequel to Beetlejuice

and play Beetlejuice again. Hmm. He's been talking

about it for at least five years. Maybe they'll

make Multiplicity 2. I would watch that. I would

too. That's sad. the first one was good so yes

it was it was very good number two is Blade Runner

2 we've talked about I have talked about this

on about on MWIRE the one time I watched Blade

Runner I don't seem to have watched the same

movie that everybody else watched I don't really

want to take the heat for it that I did in the

MWire comments on that move on that thread I'm

not saying the movie is bad by any means I'm

just saying when I look at screenshots or I see

a trailer or anything like that having to do

with Blade Runner I don't ever remember seeing

those scenes in the movie and Those scenes look

really cool, and I'm just like I don't think

I saw the same movie So funny funny thing is

is he wants to reprise he would reply reprise

it if they asked him to That's fine. Which, I

didn't watch the first one. I just, I don't know.

The other thing that kind of, I think, shoots

this in the foot, Screen Raider's responsible

for Green Lantern. So, moving on. Yeah. Last

one before we move on to some listener feedback.

Number one, Top Gun 2. And I think that's all

that needs to be said about that Yeah, I'm not

even getting into that. Yeah, okay old men trying

to fly planes and It jokes about unaged Tom Cruise.

Yeah, kind of like Nicolas Cage, right? Okay.

Now what was the question from last from the

last movie or from the last was there a whole

series of them? Um, I believe I gave out Yeah,

I gave out three. The first being, what shows

do you like to consume in full on things like

Netflix or do you prefer to watch them week to

week on TV? Or how do you like to consume them

more so? Personally, I will take TV shows any

way that I can get them. I do like watching them

on Netflix. I especially like watching them on

my PS3. I think the 360 does this and I know

some other versions of Netflix do this. The next

episode will just immediately start up. It does

that on a lot of the new players. See, it doesn't

do that on my Apple TV and that really annoys

me. I use my Apple TV for streaming purposes

because it uses less power than everything else

in my house. And the Netflix app is really the

only thing that's kind of lacking with it because...

It adheres to the Apple TV design skew, which

is horrible compared to the more traditional

Netflix, which is where you always see the box

art in like rows of box art, like kind of like

browsing a video store. Yeah. It doesn't adhere

to that user interface. It just adheres to a

list of movies. It's kind of annoying. So. But

I'll take TV shows anyway. I can get them on

there. I also download a lot of TV shows. So

some shows that I'm currently watching right

now, like Once Upon a Time and Revenge. And I

think there's one or two others. I like to save

up like maybe a month's worth of episodes in

the marathon, four or five episodes at a time.

Because I think that makes those shows better

than watching them week to week I Wish I think

I've talked about before Yeah It depends on the

show for me some of them I'll watch on Netflix

like I If it's a show that's been canceled or

show that's on break or something and it's on

Netflix. I'll watch it there I try and watch

all my shows as they air week to week like Revolution,

Blacklist, Agents of Shield, Supernatural. I've

recently gotten back into Arrow. Although if

I miss them I watch them when I have an off night

that I'm not recording and my wife passes out

and I watch them all on demand and I marathon

through a bunch of different shows if I happen

to miss them all. but i tend to watch all my

shows as they release and then if i miss them

like i said i watch on demand but if it's if

it's something that i'm haven't been watching

or picked up kind of late in the game i'll marathon

through netflix all right um looks like you also

said what is what i like how it says what is

the wrong with cartoons today yeah that's that's

perfectly fine it sounds like internet speak

So To be honest, I don't Well Obviously, I keep

I've mentioned before I have no nostalgia for

any of the older stuff So it's kind of like I

can watch some I can actually watch some of the

new stuff that that that comes out and Some of

the older stuff is kind of hard to watch. So

it's almost kind of like what is wrong with cartoons

in General to a certain extent There are some

that I think will withstand the test of time,

although I can't really think of one right now.

But there are a lot of really neat cartoon shows

that are out there. I think some of them you

just have to kind of wade into to actually find

out if they're any good or not. I've said it

on this show before, I really do enjoy the Avatar

Last Airbender series on Nickelodeon. I think

they do an amazing job with those characters

and with that world that they've built up. I

will admit to when I caught I got into it after

it had already aired and had been finished It

is it had it did come back on the air a year

ago But with a brand new set of characters and

a completely different time period but I remember

seeing the original Original run on TV like over

at my parents house and my little brother would

be watching it or it'd be on I'd be like man.

This looks like this looks so dumb. It just seems

so You know mindless But it was on Netflix I

went up on Netflix and I decided to actually

watch a couple episodes. I got totally sucked

into it hook line and sinker The show gradually

takes on a more serious tone as it progresses

through like the first three seasons By the end

of it, by the last season, it actually gets into

some pretty dark territory, especially for a

kids show. I was kind of surprised that the entire

series actually ran on Nickelodeon and not on

something kind of like Adult Swim. That might

even be pushing it a little too far, but do you

remember like Toonami? Oh yeah, back in its prime.

Yeah. Avatar... The the the last airbender series

or the avatar series in general would have been

completely at home in the tsunami time slot That's

that's the level that is the level of storytelling

and content in that series like that's It it

usually could have been there or like maybe like

the first show in the adult swim block or something

like that Another another series of shows that

I actually enjoy Do enjoy a lot of the adult

swim stuff like I did enjoy it there was a time

where I did enjoy aqua teen hunger force I still

do I can still laugh at some of it As do I I

I do enjoy adventure brothers I Did When it was

on I know it's coming back for a fourth season

I do enjoy the boondocks Just like I like the

animation style. I like the I like the writing

I think it's I think it's really funny. My cat

is actually named after one of the characters

nice Another another show that was actually referenced

in the comment section by our own TFG one might

he actually brought it up as a show that he disliked

Was the total drama series? The idea behind the

show first of all the animation is not that great

And when I first got into the show I remember

I would just I was the kind of person that would

just leave Cartoon Network on in the background

all the time So I would watch stuff in passing

and I eventually got hooked on the told the first

season of total drama island I got really hooked

on it because I thought what they were doing

was really funny It was a serialized cartoon

and what they were doing is just a they were

riffing or a satire on reality television Okay,

so like the first season is basically kind of

like watching a season of survivor you get You

know, all the cast members, they've been asked

out onto this island, you've got the crazy host

that asks them to do insane challenges, and each

episode revolves around the challenge of the

week. Just like a reality television show, the

only difference is, it's scripted, and it's animated,

so they can get away with a lot of crazy stuff.

And, okay, call me a mild pervert if you want,

but the one thing that got me, that made me pay

attention to Total Drama Island, that set it

apart from other cartoon shows on the network,

Was there was an episode where they there was

a challenge where they had to do like a tug -of

-war with jet skis in a mud pile and one of the

obviously the the contestants are all wearing

swimwear and one of the female contestants gets

her top ripped off and They do the pixelated

art thing. I Was like what? Whoa, okay. I think

I'm going to pay attention to this show now because

I'm looking for like innuendo and all this I'm

looking for like deeper meanings in the dialogue

and stuff like that and It was really neat and

obviously it plays down people get voted off

the island Or knocked out of competitions and

stuff like that it basically it's just like a

reality television series and I hate reality

television series and The other neat neat thing

about this is they had all the voice actors signed

non -disclosure agreements So they couldn't talk

about the show until the season finale had actually

aired So they couldn't reveal who the winner

was going to be Wow in interviews so it was like

you you had to actually watch the show from beginning

to end to see who the winner is and The thing

and I I started watching Season two is called

total drama action There's a third season which

I think is called total drama world tour. However,

they are Total drama action brings back some

of the cast from the first up some of the characters

from the first season They get invited backs

the same crazy host Total drama action revolves

around it's another reality series set, but it's

on a movie. It's on a movie set. So they're riffing

on movies All the challenges are movie based

and stuff like that and there's just crazy zany

characters And of course, there's the same thing

now disclosure agreements for the cast So they

can't talk about what's happening on the show

and stuff like that. I thought that was a really

neat spin on that whole thing I mean, I can understand

how the art style is a little off -putting. It's

very basic but the characters and the stories

and stuff like that that they tell her are quite

funny and I I do appreciate that especially because

I hate reality television So it's like almost

like they were right there with me I'm trying

to think if there's any other I Mean obviously

TMNT is good the one knock I have with it that

I think I've said before is that the lack of

civilians in New York City There never seems

to be any background characters. It seems to

be surprisingly barren Yeah, especially for like

one of the largest cities on earth So but I I

just think you have to look a little harder,

I mean, yeah young justice was good Thundercats

was good and you know beware the bat. Well, you

said is it beware the Batman? Yeah, you said

beware the Batman was good, but it's kind of

like I I think you just have to and it's it's

unfortunate that they were cancelled because

it does seem like some of these shows aren't

given their due but it's it's Sometimes it's

like You got to wonder we don't get to see all

the information on these things, you know And

and why and why something gets cancer or something

because I know that likes even Star Wars the

Clone Wars was like a really popular show and

I'm pretty sure if Cartoon Network had wanted

to they would have renewed it, but they probably

weren't allowed to Not that it went to a different

network, but it was just over Think I think that

cartoons can still be good I think we just have

to try a little harder to find the ones that

are still on I think that if they're the ones

that are still on I Think there might be something

to them. Like I've never seen Vinny's infer,

but that's been on for a while and I I've tried

watching and I just I don't have the love for

it that TFG won and Pecan court Michael like

well, I know that Think I believe Danner on off

the cuff also enjoys it too, but I haven't sat

down to watch it But I think that you know, that's

just one of those gems where it's like maybe

you just got to give it the fair shake I mean

if you've tried it and you don't like it, that's

one thing but I think maybe he's got to look

a little harder and everything's just not right

there in front of you. Oh No, we have to work

for our entertainment Like I I Mean I agree to

some some amount there but I think that, for

instance, it kind of hurts that one, there's

no Saturday morning stuff anymore. Two, there's

the fact that people don't actually watch TV

in the traditional way. So there's no actual

full -on metrics like they used to have back

in the day. And cartoons aren't cheap. No, well

especially when they you know I mean some and

you know regular animated ones you know aren't

and then some CG ones aren't and Granted most

things are CG now whereas barely anything's done

the old -fashioned way It's kind of disappointing

I feel like Cartoon Network for one is one that

tends to kill shows very quickly For whatever

reason It seems like they never make it a season

before they butcher them Especially if they're

like for instance, you know the the Thundercats

revival the Su anything superhero related they've

killed off pretty quick I don't know. It's just

kind of strange to me, but I'm not saying that

it isn't you know that there aren't behind -the

-scenes things It just seems like Cartoon Network

is kind of a bad bet to put things on for more

of that kind of content. You have to wonder though,

Cartoon Network is the one that thought it could

work and ordered a season. But then they cancel

it halfway through. But that's the thing. They

thought it would work and they put it out there

and all of a sudden they realize that it's not

working and they pull it. it's not like maybe

Cartoon Network gets first dibs on something

maybe that's the way it is or maybe or maybe

they bid on it because they thought it would

actually work and it and it didn't like where

else could a cartoon like where else can a cartoon

show even show up right now like well like uh

if it's if it's animated it uh like for instance

if if it's DC related it could go on CW easily

on Saturday mornings and Sunday mornings because

They played that stuff anyway. They play reruns

of Justice League or Dragon Ball Z Kai or they

play You know a bunch of old cartoons. They don't

play anything new And then of course hub has

you know things old properties like Transformers

GI Joe you know stuff like that So I mean it's

it kind of depends on the network that you're

on Like TMNT and Nickelodeon it just I think

there's a place for everything Well, but I think

that and I agree with that but I think that you

know like the case with like Young Justice or

the superhero stuff I think Cartoon Network was

known for a long time for you know, the Justice

League series and that was really popular, right?

So I can't wasn't I don't think that was Cartoon

Network though. It was on Cartoon Network It

may have been at one time, but I think it originally

aired on the WB. I think Unlimited was a Cartoon

Network thing. To the Googles. I could be very,

very wrong. I never watched it on WB. I never

watched any of that stuff on WB. I always watched

it on Cartoon Network. But for a while, that

was like the place where you went for that stuff.

So maybe they thought, you know, we've got people

that are watching these shows. So let's get more

DC superhero stuff, but maybe people aren't maybe

It's maybe there are maybe the same people aren't

interested in that stuff and Maybe they're more

interested in the older stuff Which is why CW

does air that stuff on Saturday and Sunday mornings

because that's what people actually want to see

Yeah, I mean that could be too. We were both

right Justice League itself was on Kids WB and

Courageous Network, it looks like, had part of

Justice League Unlimited and so did Kids WB.

Yeah, I just think that's kind of what they were

known for and it's like, well, yeah, I just think

that's what it is. It's like, people liked us

for this, so let's get this stuff and then they

throw it up there and people don't respond to

it. And part of that may be the demographic for

stuff. I mean, I don't I'm not I love the Justice

League stuff, but I don't. I don't have cable

and I don't sit there and watch Cartoon Network,

partially because I tuned out of Cartoon Network

the minute I saw live action stuff on there.

Yeah, I yeah, I kind of was done with Cartoon

Network soon as I saw that, too, because it's

Cartoon Network create another network, you know,

for. That kind of content so I'm wondering if

what happened was you know you have this you

have that audience that was like I'm gonna come

to Cartoon Network because they're they're playing

cartoons all the time and cartoons I like to

watch and then all of a sudden it's they throw

in the live -action stuff so it's like oh well

now I don't want to leave it on Cartoon Network

I'm gonna go Watch something else that I want

to watch and then they're not checking back on

Cartoon Network to see when their shows are on

and They're not finding out about new shows because

if you have to admit Outside of like a maybe

a magazine or you visit the right websites you

see something Maybe you do see them in like circles

or like ad banners or something like that But

most of the time I learn about new TV shows either

through like Twitter or through like that lower

third slug that they put on TV shows When it's

like check out the new episode of this coming

up next or you know this that and the other thing

you know on Wednesday nights like I feel like

Because maybe that portion of that audience had

tuned out that They never came back So yeah,

and the people that the people that did stay

despite all that they weren't It wasn't a large

enough audience. Yeah, it's a very vocal Maybe

it could be considered a vocal majority now because

maybe the larger audience has left apparently

but That's probably not enough to sustain a show

so But you know who knows it stuff happens behind

the scenes and everything so um The last question

Do you think comic based fiction has lost or

losing their appeal? I'm not reading a whole

lot of comics right now But there isn't a storyline

that I'm actually interested in to draw me back

in We're just talking about comics right like

the paper no in general In general like as far

as whether it's comic film cartoon TV I'm still

all for Like a visual medium for comic books

like movies and television The comic book themselves.

I'm I'm a bit beyond that just because I don't

One I don't want to spend the money for something.

They'll finish in 30 seconds and to Just can

think of a better way to spend my time So All

right, let's see what some of the readers had

to say yes readers listeners had to say I made

them. I made that mistake on off the cuff as

well all right Start us off here Connor Murphy

says We can go back and forth here I think the

issue with cartoons today is how networks don't

let cartoons gain audiences unless it's a huge

hit out of the gate it's gone. I also don't think

comics have lost their luster. All the movies

have me more into comics more than ever. Plus

with more different independent comics and the

breakout of Walking Dead we are seeing comics

try new and different things. I mean obviously

we just had a lengthy discussion about cartoons.

um I mean you could say the problem with the

cartoons and the gaining audiences thing you

could say that about anything and I think that

if anything from what I've seen of like Young

Justice and with Thundercats and did did Beware

the Batman just get like can't like it's not

getting a second season or did they pull it in

the middle of its first season? They pulled it

in the middle of its first season but there's

the the only report that's out there right now

is the voice actor that plays Batman says that

It's coming back in January what could be true

to But there's also no official word from Cartoon

Networks It's just there the only thing that

they're saying is it's not a part of their current

lineup. Well, okay They moved another Teen Titans

go in place of it All right, and that's probably

playing better if you think about it. I mean

It's probably more kids that are actually better,

you know actually sit down and watch it. Um What

I was getting at with that though is I can't

really fault Cartoon Network for canceling Young

Justice and I can't fault them for canceling

Thundercats considering Young Justice got two

seasons and If it couldn't get the following

in two seasons then Well any show would get canceled

after that um... and thundercats got a full season

order as well so... uh... apparently not many

people are watching that and you could say that

not letting someone gain an audience you could

say that about anything any tv show because there

are tv shows that get cancelled after one episode

and that and you know that's just because you

can't get anyone to tune in no matter how much

you market it you know And I also have to wonder

if a lot of these things are they don't have

Cartoon Network just doesn't have or any network

for that matter really It doesn't have a good

lead -in show like they don't have a show right

now They could play something new afterwards

that people would just automatically tune into

because we're leaving it on the same channel

But you know, hey look as far as the comics and

they're in the mediums and stuff like that. Yeah,

I I'm enjoying what comics are doing. I'm enjoying

the success of Walking Dead because I'm really

enjoying the games. The games are amazing. Not

the survival game that was based off of AMC's

The Walking Dead, but the Telltale game of Walking

Dead is amazing. It was off -the -cuffs game

of the year last year. Do you want to tell us

what Ryan Hannity had to say? He says comics

today are garbage. Don't really know why, but

I think it has something to do with networks

just not treating cartoons with any respect.

Unless it's Family Guy or Meant for Adults, they

just don't care. Yeah, but I think that when

you have an audience, an adult audience is probably

worth more than a child audience. When you think

about marketers Well, yeah, because the adults

have the money exactly Kids don't have money

exactly and I think that's why Stuff like that

tends to the adult the more adult cartoons tend

to stick around is because they can charge more

for marketing dollars which means they can get

the cost of the show covered and yada yada yada

yada yada yada um Dragon oh says Well, I can't

wait to hear the top 100 anime countdown. Is

that coming this week? It starts this week, right?

Tomorrow? Yes, tomorrow will be the actual first

episode of the countdown. Or actually, it's not

tomorrow. It's the same. A couple hours after

this episode's release. Right, so depending on

what order you listen to them in, you could have

already listened to the 100 animated, or you'll

listen to it after this one. Yeah. But yeah,

I barely watch anything that isn't streaming

or on demand for TV. I can't think of the last

time I watched a show the exact same time it

came on. In fact, even if I'm capable of doing

so, I will work on something else and come back

to it so I can fast forward through the commercials.

We don't have cable in my house. As technologically

advanced as I like to say that I am, we don't

have cable here. We rely on the internet for

everything in this house. I do subscribe to Hulu

Plus and Netflix and we have Amazon Prime and

HBO go I do have a cable subscription, but it

it's not hooked up It just that's how I was able

to get the best deal on my internet Makes sense.

Let's see. I I do remember like one of the things

I used to do when I was a kid and I'd watch TV

I would watch the History Channel and from 10

to 2 they would do like modern marvels and from

10 pm to 2 am they do modern marvels something

else and something else and then at 2 am they'd

repeat everything the 10 o 'clock block over

again so okay i would do like homework or this

that and the other thing from like 10 to 2 am

while that stuff was on in the background and

if there was like an interesting topic i would

be like okay i need to check that when it comes

back around again um So yes, that means on a

school night in high school, I was up until four

o 'clock in the morning. And then getting up

and going to school and repeating that every

night. Nice. And then later on, I started doing

that with Cartoon Network, especially with Adult

Swim, because Adult Swim started at 10 and their

programming block would also start repeating

at 2 a .m. So it was like if something came on

between 10 and 2, it's like, oh, maybe I want

to catch that episode of Family Guy or I want

to catch that episode of Cowboy Bebop. I would

just watch it when it came around again. What

does Jedi Disaster have to say? For TV, it depends

on the show for me. Something like Walking Dead

I have to watch week to week because I know it

will get spoiled for me if I don't. Other shows

that can't really get spoiled like comedies,

I'd rather watch in large chunks. I think what

is wrong with cartoons today is nothing. Not

that I love all of them, but I realize I'm not

a kid anymore and there are a lot of cartoons

that are not meant for me. I feel like people

are or were age saying the same thing about the

cartoons when we were kids. I don't think comic

book fiction is losing its appeal. Maybe it's

not as special as it once was, but there are

some amazing comics out there right now and now

with digital comics you are getting a lot of

great independent stuff. Um, I can get behind

everything that he just said. Lucky, I don't

know if you have this ability with your Twitter

client, Steve, but I know that Twitter has the

ability to spoil stuff because people will live

tweet their reactions to certain things and like

TVs and movies and stuff like that. The client

that I used is great. It allows me to mute keywords.

So I never have to have something spoiled for

me. On my phone I have to use the actual Twitter

app because I used to use TweetDeck and it doesn't

exist for the Android phone anymore. But on the

PC I use TweetDeck's actual website which is

through Twitter. Use that and I hide stuff if

I don't want to see certain things pop up. Yeah,

I Walk walking dead like walking dead is definitely

not a train wreck show for me That's kind of

a must watch so I will try watch that one as

soon as I possibly can so it won't get spoiled

I know that I watched the last three episodes

of the break of Breaking Bad Before I would regularly

watch them just so stuff wouldn't be spoiled

for me I do understand not wanting to get things

spoiled for you though, and I do agree with what

you said about cartoons That they aren't meant

for us, but I think that the ones that are meant

for adults you actually kind of have to like

Dig into them a little bit to uncover them And

totally agree about the The comics one comic

that comes to mind whenever we talk about like

good comics or just amazing comics that are out

there i'm reminded of a graphic novel that i

read it has nothing to do with superheroes it

has nothing to do with special powers or anything

like that it's a tale i'm trying to remember

exactly what it was but it's kind of a sad tale

it's kind of based on real life it's um it's

a book called blankets i can't really remember

who wrote it right now but it reads the way it

reads the way it comes off the page is like you

are reading a novel um And what I what I mean

by that is this the panels are Just kind of fleshed

out with what you would basically the panels

become your descriptive text in like a novel

And then you get obviously you get your dialogue

and a lot of comics are like that way But for

some reason blank is just really read like an

adult storybook It was it was it was pretty decent

And I'm I am missing comments for super film

fan and Plato's lament I don't think they had

any my bad Born standing up says my favorite

pod great handle by the way. I like that yeah,

yeah Yep, I I left that in there Born standing

up says my favorite podcast is easily WTF with

Mark Maron Seriously some of the greatest interviews

I've ever heard I prefer to marathon my shows.

I think most are better when you watch them back

-to -back I don't watch cartoons, so I can't

help you there. I do think comic book movies

are losing their luster Wait, I just saw the

Captain America 2 trailer. I retract my statement.

Give me more Yeah, I had that same reaction to

Captain America 2 as well That's just that's

a really good trailer, but you know what else

had a really good trailer the Matrix movies You

know what else had a really good trailer? X -Men

3 So just remember it has kind of a lackluster

trailer right now What's that? Days of Future

Past Yeah, it's okay, it's not it's not good

it got me excited but it I'll watch it. Oh, I

died course regardless because I like what they're

trying to do there, and I've read the the comic

um Some of my favorite podcasts to listen to

they're all gaming centric podcasts. I love Rebel

FM with Arthur geese from polygon comm I like

weekend confirmed with Garnet Lee and Jeff Kanata

and An off an offbeat podcast kind of a newer

one. I think they've only been around for a year

is called on unconfirmed opinions with Christian

Spicer That's a really good podcast. It's about

each episode's about 30 minutes and they just

randomly pick a topic to riff on. Whether they

know about it or not. So. Those are just a couple

of the ones that I liked. Are there any? Did

you talk about podcasts that you like last week?

I believe so. OK. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I did.

All right. Yeah. The Walking Dread. Says, I'm

a DVR hound when it comes to TV. Skipping through

commercials is my superpower. Am I the only one

who likes cartoons today? I like a lot of the

Cartoon Network stuff. Archer, Bob's Burgers,

among many others. Some of the kids' cartoons,

like TMNT, are pretty sweet too. Archer and Bob's

Burgers are two cartoons that I really do enjoy.

Totally forgot to mention those ones. I find

Archer to be funny and Bob's Burgers. It's just

kind of funny that they both have the same voice

actor. I myself do not like anything Cartoon

Network has other than Beware the Batman at this

point in time. Freddy Savage says, I too listen

to a lot of podcasts. I think my favorite, depending

on the day, is Nerdist. It says, man, I miss

Saturday morning cartoons. It's a wasteland nowadays.

I think the issue isn't the cartoons, but the

networks. They would give them time to breathe

or gain an audience. Right when a lot of them

are getting good, they get canceled. Regarding

Saturday morning cartoons... Obviously when I

think about it, I think about X -Men, I think

about Spider -Man, I think about stuff that I

used to watch or used to try to watch on Saturday

mornings. I have to remember that I didn't have

much of a Saturday morning with cartoons. I liked

Recess. I also liked Doug when it went to ABC

after it was on Nickelodeon. Do you remember

when they had the one Saturday morning? I remember

that. It was cool. Well there was that jingle,

but do you remember the educational show that

they had where it was like the courtroom drama?

But everything was based around just being educational

and teaching people about like science facts

and stuff like that, solving cases that had to

do with science. It was this - I vaguely remember

it. It had like that squiggly line art style,

I think to it. I'm pretty sure I know what you're

talking about, but I can't remember the name

of it If anybody does that listens to this they

can remember the name it and like I said the

best way I can describe is like a it's an animated

courtroom drama that was part of ABC's one Saturday

morning I believe was like the second to last

show that they aired and Yeah, it was just an

educational courtroom drama If you could maybe

help us figure out what the name of that show

was that would be awesome And then, um, we can

go ahead and wrap this up with Brad Kellogg.

I no longer have cable, so I don't bother with

week -to -week episodes. I'd either wait for

the DVD releases or catch it on streaming. I

don't think comic fiction is losing its appeal

at all. I mean, the movies are making bank, and

some of the comics are having better sales than

ever. I mean, comic fiction is so far -reaching,

it's like saying... It's like saying, is TV...

It's like saying... TV or movies losing their

appeal I agree with that now like if you I mean

maybe even like Pre iron man, I would have to

say that comics were not doing all that well

but now that comics have become a mainstream

thing and especially Marvel has made it a point

to try and at least have Comics that take place

in and around the Marvel Cinematic Universe Since

I've done that, I think obviously that has helped

out immensely with their sales and stuff like

that. I'm with you, Brad. I don't have cable

in the house. Like I said, I have a cable subscription.

It is not hooked up to any of my TVs. My wife

and I have lived here for two years. We haven't

had cable TV in the house. And before that, we

were in the apartment for about a year and we

didn't have cable TV. It's just not... It's expensive,

man. It's not even worth it. I think, Steve,

I am going to hold off on talking about Arkham

Origins until next week. Sounds good. Just due

to time. And I'll have a better... I'll have

a better opinion of it. But if anybody wants

to know what I think of Origins, they can check

out Off the Cup episode 34. Daner and I do talk

about it extensively, and I do briefly touch

on Batman Arkham Origins Black Gate on the Vita,

which I played for a couple hours after the show,

after we recorded the show, and I have to say,

I'm kind of enjoying it a little more than the

Big Brother. Um so I will leave you guys with

that little nugget Let's see Do we have any questions

we want to ask whether they be from the backlog

there or new ones? Let's just let's go um I Don't

know hmm Well, I guess we can just go with this

one The I'll just pick the who is your favorite

fictional character Okay, that can be fun Yeah,

who's your favorite fictional character can be

from a comic a cartoon a TV a film? Heck if you

can explain it well enough tell us about your

imaginary friend Yeah, speaking of imaginary

friends, it's another cartoon show that I really

enjoyed Foster's home for imaginary friends And

anything Gendi Tarkovsky did Samurai Jack I believe

either was him or Greg McCracken that worked

on Powerpuff Girls I really should watch Powerpuff

Girls because I didn't watch it when it was on

but I think I might enjoy it now Samurai Jack

actually has its own comic book now. Does it

really? Yeah, it just started this month Hmm.

That's all on Netflix. I need to watch that.

I made it like halfway through like the first

season. It is a fun show So I'm lost in the script.

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